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CT in AL
June 7th, 2009
12:18 am
sadly Shamus Thacker, the Braves bring Moylan in the 9th and lose 7-0
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
12:20 am
Last Titanic survivor died a couple days ago…
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
12:20 am
lol@CT
Carpe Diem
June 7th, 2009
12:22 am
However, morons like you cant see that because you focus on a simple mistake and use that as your “reason” for discarding the idea. Pathetic, but not surprising PAUL L
yeah I’m the moron, but you don’t even know who your star trade prospect plays for. That’s pretty damn funny Paul, and right in line with your other imbecilic posts. What are you, 14?
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
12:22 am
Reason I had Hanson coming out after 8 is because we’ll prolly be tied 0-0.
Pinch hitter…
StingerSplash
June 7th, 2009
12:23 am
According to Game Day, Hoffman didn’t throw a single pitch faster than 85 mph that inning. Yet his ERA so far this season is 0.00.
Tell me again, Wren, about how Glavine would not have been successful.
Bring Me the Head, remember that Hoffman is not even going through the lineup once. If he is, then something is truly amiss.
Glavine would be asked to get the lineup out on three or four turns. By turn two, good major league hitters would be locked in on his stuff.
Getting them out once, maybe. Getting them out two and three times … I betcha that’s what had the Braves brass concerned.
And McFann, I watched about three episodes of HH. They have five up at a time. Watched where Hogan and Klink go back to England to “steal” a P-51, where the Heroes try to confuse the German general staff on the eve of D-Day and a couple of others.
Robert Clary (LeBeau) was a concentration camp survivor. John Banner and Werner Klemperer were both Jewish (as was Howard Caine, who played the Gestapo officer Maj. Hochstetter, and I believe so was Leon Askin, who played Gen. Burkhalter) and fled Nazi Germany before the war. Either Banner or Klemperer (maybe even both) had it in their contracts where the Germans were to look foolish in every episode, that they could never come out on top.
Hogan’s Heroes was lambasted by both the American Nazi Party and the American Jewish Congress.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
12:25 am
I’ll go ahead and say it, but anyone but Mac, and maybe Anderson, maybe even Chipper running on the lost ball gets an Inside the parker.
StingerSplash
June 7th, 2009
12:26 am
If Glavine wants to make an argument that he can still get out big league hitters, he has to look no further than Jamie Moyer … except for this year’s stats.
Man, are the Phillies giving up longballs. Four starters have allowed 10-plus and Lidge is at 7 now.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
12:26 am
I just wish that some of you guys would take “emotion” out of the equation when you are evaluating talent and trying to make decisions on who the Braves should spend money on. The Braves are not a “cheap” organization. Over the years that have shown that they are willing to spend money. However what the Braves dont want to do is make bad signings and give fat contracts to players who arent worth the money. Just ask the S.F. Giants if they regret signing Barry Zito to that 7 year $126 mil contract. that contract will cripple the Giants ability to improve their team for years. How soon you guys forget about all that money that the Braves spent on injured starting pitching last year ($52 mil). Some of you are just so fixated on the past accomplishments of Smoltz and Glavine that you cant look at this logically. It’s time to see what Tommy Hanson can do at the Major League level. He has dominated at every level. The Braves got an extensive look at him in Spring Training. He went to Triple A and simply showed the Braves that he is more than ready.
The past accomplishments of Smoltz and Glavine do not matter when it comes to making this year’s team the best it can be. Nor does the fact that Glavine left the Braves in 2003 for the Mets matter to me either. What matters is what can they do TODAY. By the way, how many innings has Smotlz pitched this year?
This is a business. Just like players and their agents will play teams against each other when it comes to driving up the bidding for their services…management has every right to “hedge it’s bets” like the Braves did with Tom Glavine. I sensed that the Braves felt that there were chances that Tom Glavine would not be ready to start the season in the rotation. So they signed him anyway, knowing that they had a pretty solid rotation to begin with. While Glavine was working on getting healthy, the Braves had time to evaluate the health and performance of their starting rotation. Plus they had a chance to see how well Medlen and Hanson performed at Triple A. When Reyes proved ineffective, they called up Medlen. When Hanson continued dominating in Triple A, the Braves decided that it was time to bring him up. Realizing that, the Braves had no need to employ the services of Tom Glavine. It was time to let the $1 mil “insurance policy” lapse before they wuold be on the hook for an additional $3.5 mil. Glavine got paid $1 mil to use the Braves facilities to get back in shape. Let’s see if the other teams are really interested in adding Glavine to the rotation.
Glavine talks about being released because of the money. So what? This is a business. The Braves decided that they would rather spend the money allocated to him on improving the offense (acquiring McClouth from the Pirates). Personally, I’m glad that the Braves made both moves.
Time to get over it and move on.
Herschel Talker
June 7th, 2009
12:27 am
I’m sure DOB, the blind homer, will come up with some reason why the Braves are going to be just fine. I’ll give you 5 reasons why not:
Clown #1: Jeff Francoeur
Clown #2: Kenshin “Tomato can” Kawakami
Clown #3: Bobby Cox
Clown #4: Jeff Bennett
Clown #5: Frank Wreck
What a disaster we have on our hands.
Shamus Thacker
June 7th, 2009
12:27 am
Bob Crane’s best friend rocked his noggin while he was sleeping….
mbINroswell
June 7th, 2009
12:31 am
I have tickets for Wednesday’s game against the Pirates, but if the Braves are shut out again tomorrow there is no way in hell I’ll even consider going. What a pathetic spectacle this team has become. This lack of offense is nothing new, it’s just a lot more severe this year. No Brave has hit 30+ homers since 2006, and the only ones who did (Adam LaRoche and Andruw) are gone. No Brave has driven in 100 runs since 2007, and the only ones who did (Chipper and Francoeur) seem unlikely to do so again. We swing at too many first-pitches, lay down few bunts, and steal few bases. Rarely do we hit-and-run or try to squeeze home a run. Where are the fundamentals on this team? It seems like they simply aren’t being taught how to play small-ball. And it’s especially troublesome because, on paper, this team looks good. Our rotation is lights out. With proper run support, we would have one of the best records in baseball right now IMO. We have three All-Stars in our lineup (McLouth, McCann, and Chipper, though he’s not always in there). We also have solid bats at SS and 1B. Francoeur has shown that with proper coaching, he can produce. To make my point: we should have MORE than enough offense on this team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know Bradley loves TP, but I think it is WAAAAAAY past time he was replaced. I cannot name one hitter who has improved under Pendleton’s guidance. If anything, some of them have gotten worse. Francoeur was doing fine under the guidance of Jaramillo, but it seems as though coming back to Atlanta and working with Pendleton caused Francoeur to revert back to his old form. My proof? Frenchy appears to have ditched the open stance and swing that Jaramillo taught him and returned to his old form (his form from before he worked with Jaramillo, when TP was the only Major League hitting coach he’d ever worked with). It may turn out that Francoeur is just a head case, but even they can be influenced by bad coaching. PENDLETON’S EPIC FAILURE WITH FRANCOEUR SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITY THAT HE IS A SUB-STANDARD HITTING COACH!!!!!!!!!!
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
12:32 am
what goes lost in all this is another good outing by javy..sigh
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
12:35 am
Carpe Diem……..you are the one who must be only 14 years old if you werent able to comprehend my explanation of being distracted when I got the teams mixed up as far as who Nelson Cruz was playing for. I said that I was playing a couple of online poker tournaments. I had actually pulled up the stats of both Nelson Cruz of the Rangers and Alex Rios of the Toronto Blue Jays. I inadvertently clicked on the pitching stats of the Blue Jays and was tying out my response while I was playing poker. I ended up commenting on the Blue Jays pitching when I meant to talk about the Texas Rangers.
Mistakes happen. No one is perfect. I admit it. But still, regardless of the mistake, the fact remains that Nelson Cruz would be a FANTASTIC addition to the Braves. Also, it does not change the fact that the Texas Rangers ALSO need starting pitching.
Unreal.
nolie
June 7th, 2009
12:39 am
I will take whatever more of it that I can- it was one of my favorite shows (CBF)
sure you will and you are lucky to still have a few to look forward to. Unfortunately I’ve seen those episodes quite awhile ago. I was hoping that they did renew part of a third season so that I would have some new ones too. I will miss the show a lot. Fun show, great cast. Perhaps too whimsical for most viewers.
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
12:44 am
Nothing Paul Lentz has typed means that the Braves will be good in the years to come. That’s the unfortunate thing. The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
12:49 am
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Many of you are so blinded by your loyalty to Jeff Franceour that you repeatedly blame hitting coach Terry Pendleton for Franceour’s inability to quit chasing bad pitches and drive the good pitches that crosses his path. Jeff Franceour is simply not a very good Major League hitter. For every one pitch that Franceour hits out of the ball park…at least 50 hittable pitches are either fouled off or whiffed through.
The reason why Franceour produced early in his career was because other teams did not know how to pitch him. However, as his body of work became known, scouts figured out how to pitch him. Meanwhile, almost 2 years later, Franceour simply cannot make the adjustments.
Franceour’s 2009 stats so far: batting .249, 205 at-bats, 5 doubles, 2 triples, 4 home runs, 25 RBI’s, 2 stolen bases, 7 walks 33 strikeouts. 4 home runs and 7 walks in 205 at-bats is simply not going to cut it.
Franceour’s stats since the start of 2008: batting .241, 804 at-bats, 38 doubles, 5 triples, 15 homers, 96 RBI’s, 46 walks, 144 strikeouts. Oh, and 2 stolen bases.
Those stats are horrific. This year’s numbers are worse than last year’s. Franceour is projected to hit 12 homers and walk 21 times. Yet many of you are blind in your support for this “easy out”.
Not Again
June 7th, 2009
12:49 am
Mistakes happen. No one is perfect. I admit it. But still, regardless of the mistake, the fact remains that Nelson Cruz would be a FANTASTIC addition to the Braves.
Paul
To jump in, In other words you lucked out that your post also applied to Texas?
Cruz would indeed be a good addition, better than Rios , but I seriously doubt that the Rangers will be trading him since he is an integral part of their offense with his 144 OPS+.
Are you another believer that other teams exist mostly to trade their cheap productive players to the Braves ?
freshd
June 7th, 2009
12:51 am
Why dont the braves spend some money and put some lights up in the outfield. I dont know why MLB wont make them fix that problem, and take down that dumb a$$ cow. I have seen too many players lose the ball because of the lighting problem.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
12:51 am
Chop Chop…….I agree, nothing I proposed in the above postings guarantees that the Braves will be successful for years to come. However, not doing anything to improve the team is a guarantee “formula” for failure.
No More Bobby
June 7th, 2009
12:52 am
Braves current theme songs……
Jeff Francoeur – Should I Stay or Should I Go? / The Clash
Jurrjens, Jair – Carry That Weight / The Beatles
Chipper Jones – Hurt / Nine Inch Nails
Garret Anderson – Why Am I Here? / W.A.S.P. (hells yeah)
Brian McCann – Behind The Mask / Fleetwood Mac (get it? duh!)
Kelly Johnson – Kelly Johnson Sucks! / Im starting a band just to sing this song
Bobby Cox – Loser / Beck
Traver
June 7th, 2009
12:53 am
For those that had no volume on PTV in the ATL, we had volume here in Savannah and I wish I hadn’t. As much as I loved Gant on the field, he is awful in the boradcast booth. Makes it the double whammy when you mix that with our terrible offense.
JD
June 7th, 2009
12:56 am
Traver – I’d take Gant over Chip Caray any day. If broadcasting was food, Chip would be a moldy hamburger.
JD
June 7th, 2009
12:57 am
Chop Chop – still laughing at that one. Me, I find ridiculous scenarios really funny when I play them in my head. Like when someone told McFann that McCann would homer and do the Electric Slide around the basepaths for her birthday. That’s funny stuff.
JD
June 7th, 2009
1:00 am
Chop Chop – I’m still laughing at that Looney Tunes thing. Me, I find ridiculous scenarios really funny when I play them in my head. Like when someone told McFann that McCann would homer and do the Electric Slide around the basepaths for her birthday. Funny stuff.
Steve from OH
June 7th, 2009
1:04 am
Tommy Hanson’s line:
Remains to be seen.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
1:05 am
Not again………..I SAID that I was looking at both Nelson Cruz’s and Alex Rios’ stats. I inadvertently clicked on Toronto’s pitching staff and got distracted while also playing a couple of online poker tournaments earlier when typing out the original posting proposing acquiring Nelson Cruz. It just so happens that both Toronto and Texas both have good offenses who are also in need of starting pitching. However I had looked at both players and decided that Nelson Cruz would be the better fit.
And no, I do not think that other teams only exist to serve the trade needs of the Atlanta Braves. As I said earlier, if you want quality, you have to give up quality. Do you not think that Javier Vazquez would improve the Texas Rangers? Do you not think that adding him to their starting rotation SIGNIFICANTLY upgrades their starting rotation? Do you not think that Vazquez would help save the Rangers bullpen by consistently pitching into the 6-7th innings, giving the Rangers a chance to win games? Starting pitching is in great demand. All the contenders are looking for starting pitching. Dont you think that the Mets and Phillies would love to have Javier Vazquez?
So if the Rangers want to acquire a Javier Vazquez….then they need to give up quality in return. The Rangers have plenty of offensive. The Braves need a right fielder. The Rangers need starting pitching. The makings of a trade like this would benefit both teams. I was suggesting including Jeff Franceour as a “throw in” if the Rangers were concerned about having someone play right field if they were to give trade Cruz to the Braves. Again, Vazquez would be the CENTERPIECE of the trade, not Franceour.
nolie
June 7th, 2009
1:06 am
Remains to be seen. (STEVE)
chicken !
N Nine
June 7th, 2009
1:11 am
Nothing but facts: Hanson 7inn 1ER 3BB 8K W. We’ll score 3 or 4 runs, which will be plenty for the future ace.
Not Again
June 7th, 2009
1:19 am
As I said earlier, if you want quality, you have to give up quality. Do you not think that Javier Vazquez would improve the Texas Rangers?
Paul
not when trying to compensate for the loss of a 144+ bat, no I don’t. I think it would weaken them. They have other options that would make more sense for them to trade.
And I wouldn’t even consider Rios who is nothing much away from home career-wise compared to his contract.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
1:23 am
paul lentz,
i called it two years ago. got ridiculed.
major hole in the swing. bloggers said i was a idiot.
frenchy wont be back. kelly should not be back either.
long mechanical swing that is prone to slumps.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
1:26 am
DOB,
on a music thing i am totally turned on to the KINGS OF LEON.
they sound like a better version of the PLIMSOULS.
very tight band.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
1:30 am
Not Again……..again, if you read what I said, you would see that I looked at the stats of BOTH Nelson Cruz and Alex Rios. I also said that I DECIDED that Nelson Cruz would be a better fit.
Also, I never said that the it would be a sure thing as far as my proposed Cruz for Vazquez trade. However, if the Rangers want to SIGNIFICANTLY improve their starting pitching, then acquiring Vazquez would go a LONG ways toward accomplishing that goal. However do you think that the Braves would make that trade if Cruz wasnt included in it? I agree, giving up Cruz would be tough. However, in order to get quality, you have to give up quality.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
1:33 am
uga-brave……..many so-called Braves fans are blindly loyal to Jeff Franceour because he is a “hometown hero”. They are really disillusioned in their belief that Franceour is going to be a superstar. The sad fact is that Franceour isnt a very good Major League hitter at all.
Enough said.
Patrick
June 7th, 2009
1:34 am
I thought Tom Glavine couldn’t pitch because every win counts…..well I’m not counting any wins. Pitching isn’t the issue its the hitting..how do we get blanked 2 games in a row? Even if Glavine pitched it would jave been an L in the column because he wouldn’t have had any run support. Terrible~
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
1:38 am
Paul Lentz,
I wish you wouldn’t talk about my boy Franceour that way. Franceour is the best player we have. He likes to sign autographs. He’s a good Christian who climbs walls like a five-year-old. He runs like a girl as a tribute to his mom. He is my favorite player because he is true to his inability to hit a baseball very well. With Franceour, I never have to worry about him changing. He’s consistently consistent in his consistency.
Jump on the Franceour bandwagon, dude. It is made out of hustle, grit, championships and Parkview Clemson rip-off paws. Chase the dream with us, my friend.
David O'Brien
June 7th, 2009
1:39 am
Hanson line? That’s a tough one to call, given Fielder, Braun, et al.
I’ll go 6 innings, 6 hits, 4 runs, 3 walks, 7 strikeouts.
But I don’t say that with much conviction.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
1:42 am
paul lentz,
that ship has sailed. the hometown people are even booing him now.
been to at least 10 games this year. went out and sat in right field during late innings one night and he is getting heckled.
not from me, but he is getting it.
Bravo Nam
June 7th, 2009
1:44 am
CLASS ACT
Phil Niekro, another Braves icon, who was traded away by the Braves and yet went on to win 30 or so more games, had this to say:
“And when Niekro is asked the question of what is owed to certain special players, he can sound downright managerial. “I don’t think they owe us anything. If anything, we owe baseball something. That’s been our livelihood; that’s how we’ve built our homes, bought our cars, fed our children.””
Yes, the Braves could’ve handled the TG situation better, but they’ve recognised this and apologised. What should be more important to Glavine and Smoltz than being able to pitch for another season or two is the way they leave the game. Acting like prima donnas and alienating most of their support base is not the pathway to take. For Glavine to file a grievance against the Braves at this juncture would lose him a lot of the sympathy he already has.
Both Smoltz and Glavine, as well as their advocates, always talk about all that they’ve done for the team. Well, hang on, what about all that the team and the city has done for them. In this day and age of economic meltdown, it’s downright offensive to the average fan that these dudes are whining over a few million, amongst other things, when they’ve both made over 100 million from their ventures.
And please don’t let me read anymore whiners on here talk about the classlessness of Wren and Co…make no mistake about it, ballplayers ultimately represent themselves, whereas Wren represents interests greater than himself…how quickly we forget the selfish actions of Jake Peavy, Griffey Jnr and Furcal and how they shafted the team and this city…and let’s face it, Smoltz and Glavine for ultimately considering what was best for them, not the team or city in their negotiations…so please don’t let me read any namby pamby baseball player apologists whinging and whining about all these players are owed!
David O'Brien
June 7th, 2009
1:45 am
uga-brave: hey, so maybe you’re a little late to the party on Kings of Leon, but it’s just cool that you got tuned in and turned on to ‘em. Strong band. Now you should try some My Morning Jacket (another great Southern band; they’re from Kentucky).
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
1:45 am
chop chop,
chiming in with a priceless post. dude you make me laugh.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
1:48 am
DOB,
not late with the leon’s, but i have never heard all their stuff.
like i said, very tight. they sound like what the plimsouls should of been.
Bravo Nam
June 7th, 2009
1:51 am
ROBERT, you’re a laughable joke. Your 5.41pm post on the other blog just sums you up man…pathetic.
“EXCELLENT on target blog by Jeff Schultz needs to be read and bumped. Fianlly an AJC writer with the balls to call out the Braves as the classless franchise they have become
Any chance grows a set? Bout as much chance as Donker leading the team to any post-season success”
Your issue just isn’t with Cox, you actually can’t stand hte Braves. No, I’m not talking about your criticsm of the Braves as classless…I’m talking about the fact that EVERYTHING associated with the Braves you denigrate. FELLOW BLOGGERS…as a long time blogger, one thing some of you may not know is that Robert used to be a Mets fan and then changed teams. Now, I find it hard to trust anyone who changes they’re allegiances, but to trust a former Mets fan who has changed allegiances?
ROBERT, feel free to continue to denigrate Cox, the Braves, the team, other bloggers etc, because it just continues to underscore what a pathetic Braves fan and imposter you are.
Wren gets Ripped off again. 3 players for an lower average MLB player
June 7th, 2009
1:52 am
Glavine, PLEASE GO AWAY U CRYBABY! U should have worked for GM.
And would the braves PLEASE draft 6 outfielders, 8 infielders, 3 catchers
before a pitcher this year. And make them all power hitting prospects PLEASE!!!!
I can’t watch another braves game this year. This is the worst lineup I have seen
in Atlanta since the days of 1976.
Chipper is DONE, Escobar is average, KJ is below average, who’s on first?,
The outfield is Triple A quality ar best. McCann is the only thing going
for the team.
I feel sorry for Hanson. he would be better off in Washington.
David O'Brien
June 7th, 2009
2:00 am
PWHjort, thanks for bringing that to my attention about the Patterson Hood link. I just had it linked incorrectly. Should work now. Cool site, too.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:00 am
The late Bill Walsh (coached the 49ers to 3 Super Bowls) said, “It is better to get rid of a player a year EARLY…..than a year TOO LATE.” The 49ers traded JOE MONTANA to the Kansas City Chief. He led the Chiefs to the play-offs both years before he retired. However, he was past his prime. Plus Steve Young led the 49ers to the Super Bowl over the Chargers in 1994.
Now if Joe Montana can be traded and shown the door…..I think that John Smoltz and Tom Glavine can handle being shown the door as well. You cant put Smoltz and Glavine in Montana’s class (and I say this despite not only being a Braves fan…but I’m a Dallas Cowboys football fan as well, which means I have absolutely NO love for the 49ers).
The 49ers also cut Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, and Roger Craig. Instead of following the advice of the late Bill Walsh, many teams keep on to players too long…and still get crucified for finally letting the player go.
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
2:02 am
I just get tired of people ripping on my boy Franceour. Franceour is a true leader on the club. When the Allies stormed the beaches of Normandy on D-Day, many of Franceour’s ancestors rose up from their Norman graves to assist in the destruction of the Nazis. La Resistance relied on Franceours from all corners of la Patrie to provide downed Allied airmen with safe conduct back to England.
This is a fact because I said so. May our Franceour continue to be as brave and courageous as his forebearers!
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
2:11 am
why the dislike for francoeur?
great question right? the guy from all accounts i hear is a great guy.
he does not fight dogs, he signs autographs. he goes to hospitals and sees sick kids. he is what you would want out of a local player.
for some reason he is polarizing.
for me it is the sense of entitlement. he loves talking to the media when things are right, he loves being the hero.
he probably needs a new address. he would probably do better.
i think he is somewhat jealous of macaan. he always hit in front of him in the summer leagues.
the fact of the matter, bay area steve said it the best, he has no bat speed. he cant cut it loose.
David O'Brien
June 7th, 2009
2:12 am
Anyone heard the new Ryan Bingham album? I don’t think it’s out until Tuesday, but figured someone here might have heard it somewhere.
Daniel, you’re right about that new Grizzly Bear CD. Good stuff. Since you like that, I’m gonna give you (and others) a CD recommendation that I think many here will like: Try this great band whose CD I picked up last week in San Francisco, an S.F. band called Assemble Head in Sunburst Sound (I know, odd name, but rockin’ band, sort of Neil Young w/Crazy Horse, early Floyd psych vibe, but mixed with an 80s edgy sound of Screaming Trees and Sonic Youth and REM’s harder stuff).
You can check out a choice track on the CD at this site, just find the little play thing to click on:
http://www.thebaybridged.com/2009/04/15/assemble-head-in-sunburst-sound-two-birds-new-album-out-now/
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:14 am
uga-brave
Did someone really ask that? lol jk
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
2:17 am
chop chop, it is or was june 6th.
could you of imagined storming sword or utah beach?
while right up the coastline they walked in. talk about winning the lottery.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
2:19 am
bravos2249,
sorry about busting your chops lastnight.
Paul Lentz
June 7th, 2009
2:21 am
uga-brave…….Franceour is such a polarizing figure because TRUE Braves fans are tired of the Braves being held hostage by SO-CALLED Braves fans who in fact are more loyal to Jeff Franceour than to the Braves. Braves’ fans who want to see the Braves win are sick and tired of seeing Franceour kill rally after rally with his “swing for the fences” approach…or…his punchless pokes when trying to hit to right field. The Braves lack for right handed hitting power. He has been touted as the one who can deliver in the clutch, as someone who can hit for 25-30 homers, drive in 100-120 RBI’s. However, an average of .249, 4 homers, and 25 RBI’s in 54 games isnt going to cut it. Not by a long shot. Especially coming off a season in which he hit .241 with 11 homers and 71 RBI’s.
TheAntiMe
June 7th, 2009
2:21 am
I don’t know if anyone out there makes Viagra for a Louisville Slugger but if they do then somebody better hook the Braves up and really soon because this is starting to get ug-leee!!!
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:23 am
Some of ya’ll can bash Frenchy all night and day, but the fact is most of that lineup melts under any kinda pressure. Maybe we’ve hyped this team up too much in our own minds so everything is magnified, good and bad. Maybe they’re just average and we need to accept it and move on. Or, maybe they are as good as we think and will break out on a long winning streak. We and everybody knows the pitching is there.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
2:26 am
bravos2249,
not my style. note to self, dont go to baseball game and indulge, and when you come home dont open a good bottle of red wine.
it was a good bottle of malbec though. the dunhill went very good with it.
TnBrian
June 7th, 2009
2:28 am
TheAntiMe, I like that one. Oh, by the way, I like the announcers with more lame excuses to this scoring drought…now it’s because Kotchman is out. Yeah, he’s just so dang good that he’d turn it all around or something. I like Ron Gant a lot and I’d like to see him take TP’s place, but he and Joe even saying that is just silly.
Gluck Tom Favine and Smuck John Foltz
June 7th, 2009
2:29 am
Terry Pendleton and several Braves hitters are stealing from this organization every time they back up to the pay window. Where is the accountability,there is none on this coaching staff starting with Cox, the game has so passed him by.
learner
June 7th, 2009
2:31 am
uga,
What position did you play for the Dawgs? I know you had to have played.
uga-brave
June 7th, 2009
2:31 am
paul lentz,
like i said saw it two years ago.
i love bobby but i am somewhat turning on him.
i always thought he was a great evaluator of talent, but he has now become somewhat loyal to a fault.
Chop Chop
June 7th, 2009
2:33 am
I just want to type Franceour one more time before bed.
I could get used to this name misspelling stuff.
TheAntiMe
June 7th, 2009
2:43 am
lol – Thanks, TnBrian. You know, it surely doesn’t help having Krotchman out right now but to try and say that there is one certain thing or person to blame for the offensive troubles is, IMO, over-simplifying things.
To say it’s all anyone’s fault is really just not accurate whether it be Frenchy or Krotchman or Bobby Cox or Homer The Brave. I think it’s a little more complicated than that.
Do I have any answers? No, not really, I just see what everyone else does. Hopefully, the boys will get it going soon because all is not lost. There’s still nearly 4 months of hardball left and anything can happen.
bravos2249
June 7th, 2009
2:50 am
uga-brave
No problem..I stuck around long enough to figure out what it was. If I let my feelings be hurt by things online I have problems..lol
MFin04
June 7th, 2009
2:53 am
Perhaps we should try our new leadoff hitter at leadoff, no point in Nate leading off the first inning with 2-outs.
TheAntiMe
June 7th, 2009
3:00 am
At this point, MFin04, it couldn’t hurt to try anything. Heck, you could even go all Tony LaRussa and hit your pitcher in the 8-spot. Who knows what could happen?
Will
June 7th, 2009
5:42 am
Braves are looking good, i am still hoping its not too much trouble for them to score a run this wknd. I am hoping Hanson is ready to toss some shutouts cause thats what its gonna take with this team. This is the most pathetic offense i have seen in ages.
willieg
June 7th, 2009
6:23 am
THIS BRAVES TEAM IS AWFUL, YALL TALK ABOUT HANSON,THE BRAVES CANT SCORE, THIS KID S MENTAL ASPECT WILL BE DESTROYED BEFORE THE ALL STAR BREAK, WITHOUT KOTCHMAN,AND DIZZY CHIPPER, YOU COULD HAVE JESUS PITCHING YOU WONT WIN I TOLD YOU ALL THE OTHER DAY THAT THE BREW CREW WOULD SWEEP ATLANTA GUEES WHAT MY BANK ACCT NOW HAS HUNDREDS MORE THANKS TO THE NO HITTING BRAVES KEEP IT UP LOSERS TO BAD HANSON HAS TO WEAR THAT SORRY BRAVES UNIFORM HE SHOULD BE A DODGER, OR A YANKEE, GREAT BLOG DAVE,AS YOUR GREAT SKIP CARAY WOULD SAY, LOSE, LOSE, LOSE, JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE,TALK TO YOU LATER LOSERSVILLE.
willieg
June 7th, 2009
6:35 am
this bravexs team is pathetic,, no wonder i bet againt them its eacy money for me, iused to be a bnraves fan in the 70,s at least those soory players didnt make alot of money now for this overpriced pieces of players you have CHIIPER NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE ,HE NEEDS TO RETIRE GOT THAT FAT CONTRACT IN THE OFFSEASON,BASICALLY THIS TEAM IS NOW LIVING ON REPUTATION IN THE NINETIES,THIS TEAM WILL FINISH IN LAST PLACE I GUARANTEE IT,FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
willieg
June 7th, 2009
6:41 am
THE TRUTH HURTS DOESNT IT THIS TEAM ABOLUTELY SUX, MY LAST BLOG YOU TOOOK AWAY WHAT EVER,THIS TEAM NEEDS TO MOVE TO VEGAS,THEY ARE BUILDING IT UP MUCH BETTER EVERYBODY IN VEGAS BETS AGAINST THEM NOW AND WE WIN, THANK YOU ATLANTA KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
willieg
June 7th, 2009
6:43 am
THIS WHOLE ORGANIZATION SUX FROM TOP TO BOTTOM
willieg
June 7th, 2009
6:44 am
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William
June 7th, 2009
6:55 am
Signing Chipper Jones to another long term contract was a HUGE mistake!! He’s a great player but he’s not worth the headache! Wait, is that the excuse why he won’t play today??? Or is it the oblique, big toe, hand, bunions, or………….etc……………….You need to be able to count on your “star” player to be in the lineup everyday!!! The Braves can’t do that. Chipper is a cancer to this team.
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
7:04 am
Hanson’s Line: 6IP 1BB 4 HITS 1 ER 7 Ks
JasonInFL
June 7th, 2009
7:07 am
willieg, dude…switch over to decaf at around 6:30 in the mornings dude…
Runnin
June 7th, 2009
7:42 am
Vazquez could’ve easily gone 8 or 9 innings tonight if we had had the lead. He was heading towards a complete game but had to be pinch hit for to try and score some runs.
chipdip
June 7th, 2009
7:43 am
The Braves are done. They are about as exciting to watch as watching grass grow.
richbrave
June 7th, 2009
8:00 am
(willieg)JOHNNY ONE-NOTE:
Well I see your idiocy hasn’t changed from last year fool. Still all caps and the same putrid rambling style. Still all about VEGAS. Since you’ve changed your handle after being chased from this blog, I’m calling you ONE-NOTE, cause that’s all you’ve got. Gotta’ be versatile to play music clown. Just like baseball.
richbrave
June 7th, 2009
8:00 am
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AndyC
June 7th, 2009
8:05 am
Hanson’s line:
5.66 innings, 8 hits, 5 runs, 3 walks, 6 strikeouts.
I hope I’m wrong. Put I think he will struggle today. If the Braves lose again today. DOB may have to shut down the blog or else it might implode. The Hanson haters will be out in force and people will be calling for Glavine to be resigned.
Lars Taint
June 7th, 2009
8:21 am
Paul Lentz,
I really wish you, and everyone else who is as clueless as you, would stop making these absurd trade proposals. Please never mention your Nelson Cruz for Javier Vasquez trade again. You are making a fool out of yourself. If the Rangers could take on all that additional salary, don’t you think they would have gone after some of these starting pitchers in the off season? You are proposing that they give up a player making $408,000 to get in return a player making $11.5 million. Then throw in Frenchy making $3.4 million. The funny part is, you actually researched this trade! LOL!
brewdawg
June 7th, 2009
8:28 am
N8,
You gonna be around today? I’m actually off today and looking forward to watching Hanson.
Jeff R
June 7th, 2009
8:34 am
How about Kelly Johnson’s attitude? Strikes out with the bases loaded and says, “It happens.” Wow, what grit, what determination to win. Way to bear down there, guy.
Chipper leaves the game with “dizziness.” He sprains a toe ad he’s sidelined. He strains an oblique and is sidlelined. He’s dinked all the time… and sits out. But he gets a three-year deal with a raise because he’s a fan favorite. And where did his power go?
Err, nice game by Vasquez, though. The rotation is coming through, mostly. I wonder if privately the pitchers are saying “it happens” about their wasted performances.
Braveheart
June 7th, 2009
8:35 am
Alright, gonna go clog some arteries with sausage, bacon, egg and cheese croissants, and then it’s off to the Ted to watch Hanson rack up double digit Ks this afternoon. It’s a Sunday day game after a night game after all, with two bottom of the rotation starters facing off. Hopefully, that means we won’t see the best Brewers lineup, and Hanson can mow ‘em down. 6.3 IP, 11 Ks.
Braveheart
June 7th, 2009
8:39 am
And hopefully the Brewers will be dog tired this afternoon because one of our Braves brought some of the Brewers out last night to enjoy the finest booze and skankiest women our seediest strip clubs have to offer.
siskel_god
June 7th, 2009
8:41 am
If Chipper is the leader I am glad nobody follows him. If I hear one person take up for that pansy ever again I will be disapointed and outraged. I really didn’t think it could get worse than missing a week with a sore wittle toe until that sorry @$$ took himself out of the game because he was dizzy! Gimme a break, you are a professional athlete. Bobby ought to be ashamed of himself for babying some of these guys so much, do you think Ozzie Guillen would put up with that garbage. Get in the game or get out of town, I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU NOT PLAYING, LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH A LITTLE DISCOMFORT!!! It was only a 3 run game! We are getting blanked by Jeff Suppan, dominated by Gallardo, and almost no-hit by a Cubs rookie who admitted he may not even have 5th starter stuff, not too mention what Scherzer did in AZ, and the whooping we took by the Giants. Chipper has got to be traded to an AL team where he has value, and we can get a haul in return because with or without him we are not scoring enough runs.
Atticus
June 7th, 2009
8:57 am
Here comes Tommy….but you know what? It doesn’t matter, this team is NOT going to even win a WC. There is no fire, no it factor. They just don’t hit and we really need HRS.
Yesterday was a perfect example. They got two hits plenty of times but to get three hits in a inning is hard. If a couple of thse are HRs we could’ve won the game. This is one of Cox’s poorest coaching jobs too. Yelling from the dugout “Come on Chip ” or “Here we go Kelly” just isn’t enough.
You know, Frenchy looked pretty good last night. Unfortunately KJ didn’t.
Robert
June 7th, 2009
8:59 am
What’s he expecting of Hanson? Cox put it simply, “Hee-Haw”
Robert
June 7th, 2009
9:02 am
“i love bobby but i am somewhat turning on him.
i always thought he was a great evaluator of talent, but he has now become somewhat loyal to a fault.”
Loyal? Yeah he really proved his loyalty by warning his boy Glavine of what the scouts were saying. He couldve given Glavine the heads up, but didnt. So either his loyalty is actually only to the company policy, or that hoo-hah about scouts poo-poing Glavine was bunk
Either way it’s classless.
Cox is a company mouthpiece – just like DOB
Robert
June 7th, 2009
9:04 am
Why is Kelly Johnson leading off again? Somebody go smack Donk’s big long donkey ears a good one
The Truth
June 7th, 2009
9:10 am
The real question is, when this team is out 8-10 games by the end of July, will we trade Soriano, Gonzo and Vasquez?
Why do people even call this team a contender? They are are 6 games back and the Phillies have an offense. For the people who think pitching wins, please view the 2009 Atlanta Braves.
McFann :Ô:
June 7th, 2009
9:16 am
StingerSplash–
I watched 5 episodes on my ‘Pod yesterday…sort of a marathon to honor D-Day. I watched the one where they go to steal the P-51, too (love that one).
That’s some int’resting stuff about the people who played the Germans and LeBeau. The guy who played Maj. Hochstetter (that guy is hilarious) was really from Tennessee. But he got rid of his southern accent to do all kinds of other accents…
Hogan’s Heroes was lambasted by both the American Nazi Party and the American Jewish Congress.
I think TV Guide had it listed as one of the 5 worst shows of all time a few years back.
McFann :Ô:
June 7th, 2009
9:25 am
Beltran dismisses LaRoche’s “zero class” charge
Hey, Beltran, you stole a game from “these people”…does that make you feel any better?
StEwIe GrIfFiN
June 7th, 2009
9:26 am
Willieg, Dude move this team to Vegas, are you really that high or just plain stoopid!!!
Dawgtime
June 7th, 2009
9:26 am
Here we go again, Chipper can’t play. This guy has no heart or passion for the game. He looks for reasons not to play. Great talent with no desire. He got his big contract and lost his concern. In interviews, it’s always about him. He is a selfish person. He is not a team leader. If the Braves want to develop a productive team for the future, Chipper needs to be traded. I am sick of hearing about his excuses for not wanting to play. The 1990’s are over and it is time for the Braves to look to the future.
mike28212
June 7th, 2009
9:26 am
DOB I picked up the new Ryan Bingham this past Friday night. I think it came out last Tuesday. I haven’t been able to spend a lot of time listening to it but liked what I’ve heard. It’s pretty solid from start to finish. I’ll have to get give it a few more spins to see how it compares to his last one. I also got the Jason Lytle’s solo debut which sounds pretty much like his old band Grandaddy. And that’s no cause for complaint from me.
StEwIe GrIfFiN
June 7th, 2009
9:30 am
And, I shall be at the game today with Brian, and Rupert,not to worry ol chaps, I will have my mind control glasses with me.
I can assure that T Hanson will pitch splendidly, but you Jeffy Francouer, I will make sure that you never get another hit as an Atlanta Brave…Victory is mine
sincerly StEwIe GrIfFiN
Dawgtime
June 7th, 2009
9:31 am
In the WBC, his (Chipper) play was terrible. Instead of owning up to his pathetic performance, he came up with the injury excuse. He always has injuries that can’t be confirmed by medical exams or tests. The Braves have babied this guy for years. He was moved to left field then back to 3rd to accomodate him with no concern for the other players. Chipper has the talent to be in the Hall of Fame, but the heart to be retired. Watch him jog to first base. Trade him….
Braves Fan
June 7th, 2009
9:31 am
DOB
Any update on chipper?
Mr. Fly (sleuth reporter)
June 7th, 2009
9:37 am
PART TWO OF THE DAILY BUZZ
After filing the first report, Tom Glavine walked out of the disastrous and embarrassing meeting with management, he decided to call his lawyer. This could get ugly. Even those fans that sided with Glavine in the whole dubious affair may now turn against him if he goes all litigious and such. We’ll see. Meanwhile, back at Braves corporate offices, John Schuerholz and Terry McQuirk have called another meeting. They’ve invited Donald Trump to join. Frank Wren and Bobby Cox are also called in. There is tension in the air. Mr. Fly hangs quietly on the wall, taking copious notes as the meeting begins:
JOHN: Gentlemen, I’ve asked you all to join us because this franchise is on a down bound train to hell. We have a PR nightmare, we’re losing credibility with athletes around the MLB and we’re losing ticket sales. Somebody has to be accountable. I’ve asked the esteemed Mr. Trump to join us and help sort this out. Thanks for taking time out of your schedule to join us Donald.
DONALD: You’re welcome John. Glad to be here. Good afternoon gentlemen.
JOHN: Frank, let’s start with you. You’ve made some good moves as GM, particularly with JJ and Lowe. With Smoltz and now Glavine, you really screwed up big time. Ticket sales are down and people are not happy about the way two long-time Braves icons were treated. What say?
FRANK: But I thought you approved everything, John.
JOHN: No I didn’t Frank. NO SIR… I said the management reins were in your hands. You dropped them and botched the whole thing. And that’s Mr. Schuerholz to you. Got it?
FRANK: Yes sir. Well, Glavine and Smoltz were an intellectual and attention threat to me personally. They were both too smart for their own good. In Baltimore I had total control without questioning or accountability. I was the star. Plus, they were injured and we need to win games.
JOHN: You bring up intelligence, Baltimore, stars and winning games in the same sentence? What say you, Donald?
DONALD: Well, this is interesting. Business is business, but people do business with people. Seems Frank is batting zero on both counts. Looking at your books. Sales are down. Look at your stands and your ratings. Fans are miffed, except for a few idiots on the blogs that seem to always side with corporate against the only reason they watch the game, which is the players themselves. Fans don’t pay to see general managers make trades. Well, maybe some blog statheads and armchair manager obsessives do, but not most fans who just enjoy watching the game. Further, merchandise sales are down. Seems the small contracts that Smoltz and Glavine were willing to sign would’ve been paid just by attendance and merchandise sales alone. Small price, all things considered. Yet, Frank, you ran them off in ugly fashion. Do you even look at this in a true, accrual basis way, Frank… or is it all just simple math?
FRANK: But Donald, this is about winning and having GM power, not pampering rich athletes.
DONALD: That’s Mr. Trump to you, Frank. It seems you’re being pretty myopic on the whole thing. Superstars DO need pampering. They DO have egos. They should be treated well and, yes, pampered if need be. THEY are why fans watch games; buy tickets and jerseys, not the GM. It’s the same in the music, television and movie businesses. You want those star players. They are driven. They win. As the GM of a professional sports team, you should know that coming in.
FRANK: But what about my fame? Don’t I deserve some too? I work hard and I have really nice suits. I have the look. Distinguished gray hair. Strong jawline. I’m the face of the new Braves era.
JOHN: Oh, my… we need to break here. Bobby, you awake? Bobby?
The meeting will continue after the executives take a potty break. The tension is thick enough to cut with a butter knife. The meeting continues in part three…
StEwIe GrIfFiN
June 7th, 2009
9:38 am
Oh! no, Chipper is crippled !!!!!muahhhahhhahha!!!