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Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
5:54 pm
BTW, John Smoltz and Tom Glavine don’t play for the Braves anymore. Until they are reacquired, pitch against us, or come back in some other capacity, I think we should just drop them from all our conversations.
As of right now, I will.
braves70
June 5th, 2009
5:55 pm
Frank Wren: You got scuttled after just one year in Baltimore. Don’t let the door hit your fat buttocks on the way out of Atlanta. Seriously, maybe you should try to become a Repo man. Seems like that would fit your gnarly attitude.
You Think...
June 5th, 2009
5:56 pm
Wayne in Utah…..agreed…..dropped from my vocabulary
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
5:56 pm
Glavine said on 790 he probably wouldn’t show up at Turner Field to honor Greg Maddux in July. Because he’s mad. But you know what else made him mad? That the lying, penny-pinching Braves didn’t offer him a job as a pitching consultant or something. Glavine is so mad he wants to have it both ways — or, more precisely, all his way.
I understand Glavine is mad but unless he’s got a job somewhere else that would be just wrong for him not to come to Maddux’s retirement.
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
5:57 pm
Efrim
You think maybe the Sox started that stupid rumor. Besides, they would probably love to unload him. They are probably thinking they could get Francoeur for him. While JF is struggling, I don’t think Penny can play right field.
N8
June 5th, 2009
5:57 pm
Guessing game. Good point. But then again, after the way that (Smoltz) was handled, and now Glavine, perhaps JS felt it more neccesary to jump in. But I doubt he’d want to throw Wren under the bus.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 5th, 2009
5:58 pm
I agree that the Penny for Francoeur straight up rumor doesn’t make sense… now, a three-way trade with the Braves ending up with a bat…that could work.
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 5th, 2009
5:59 pm
J-X, Chipper has been in the three hole since 2005.
2005 .296
2006 .324
2007 .337.
2008 .364
2009 .322
Do you really think Nate McLouth is a better option in the three hole? REALLY???
Brain McCann had 66 extra base hits, 57 walks last season and hit .301
Chipper Jones had 45 extra base hits, 90 walks last year and hit .364
Read it again……..
N8
June 5th, 2009
5:59 pm
“I don’t think Penny can play right field.”
Yeah, but Wayne, he probably can hit better than Jeff, so isn’t it worth a look? LOL!
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:00 pm
JS is just covering FW’s back. Trying to appease the poor Braves fans who think those other players were wronged. Get over it folks, it’s a business, or as we say a bidnezz.
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:00 pm
N8
So long as he can take a walk now and then!
J-X
June 5th, 2009
6:01 pm
Coach and Macon:
I challenge anyone on here to tell me one guy on our team this applies to more than chipper?
However, hitting cleanup also requires an exceptional level of talent, and the ability to deliver big hits in important situations (bases loaded, two out).
I think you have proven that Chipper can hit 3rd, what we are trying to see if him hitting 4th makes the team better overall. We all know he can hit 3rd, and we all know he can hit 4th. And most of us agree that Mclouth will be better at 3 than at 4. Is this coming thru in english???
MiltonDawg
June 5th, 2009
6:02 pm
i like this new approach Wren is taking here. This kind of slice/dice dealing and releasing is exactly what the Braves need. Much respect for Smoltz/Glav but it’s time to go guys. Out with old, in with the new. Same approach as the Falcons. And if it’s about $$, whatever, this is a business. If this team wants to move forward and constantly be a contender in the postseason, this is the kind of business the Braves need to do. McLouth trade is fantastic. It’s got some grit to it and instantly boosts our outfield.
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:02 pm
I still like the idea of getting a guy like DeRo for our team. Have always liked him, and in the past few years, his bat.
Not willing to give up TOO much for him, but he would be perfect for the 2B/3B backup job, as well as working into the corner OF rotation (GA, Diaz, DeRo and Frenchy if he stays.).
Chop Chop
June 5th, 2009
6:02 pm
I was unaware that Tom Glavine, due to millions of dollars, is not allowed to be angry about something.
No matter the sincerity of Schuerholz’s apology, it had to be done. The Glavine release was completely understandable in baseball terms, but it was handled in an absolutely bush league manner.
Glavine will be there in July. This apology is part of mending fences.
All of this could have been avoided if Wren had had the common sense to shake Tommy’s hand in the offseason and move on.
The end.
Couch Tater
June 5th, 2009
6:03 pm
N8 – Frank Wren’s response, “Coffee is for closers.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI (PG-13)
Joebrave
June 5th, 2009
6:03 pm
Schuerholz, just fired McDowell and Hired Tommy Glavine to be the PC!!!! Tommy’s first order of business was to tell D.Lowe to straighten his act up!!!!
J-X
June 5th, 2009
6:04 pm
And I love the trend that you are showing me that Chipper’s numbers get better when the team is no longer winning. I could give two sh*ts about his individual numbers, I want wins!!! Put him on your fantasy team and go to a fantasy baseball blog to talk about his numbers in the three spot!
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:04 pm
Macon Braves… McLouth IS the best power hitter on the team now…right? : )
Actually, I’d say Mac is the best power hitter on the team, IMO.
Baseball managers tend to place hitters who are most likely to reach base ahead of the clean-up man, so that the fourth batter can “clean” the bases by driving these baserunners home to score runs.
Sounds to me like the explanation says the guy IN FRONT OF THE CLEANUP HITTER should be guys that reach base most often, not the cleanup hitter having the highest OBP.
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:04 pm
Coach
We can read it all day, but if Bobby doesn’t read it, or believe it, then it’s wasted time even discussing it. Don’t ya think?
Heck, they haven’t called me yet for my opinion. Coach, have they called you? How about it N8? Have they called you?
learner
June 5th, 2009
6:05 pm
Just heard the clip. Kudos to JS. The right way to respond. OK so we know the GM sometimes does not do a good job in handling communications with Hall of Famers on his team. Because it’s really about how you communicate, the timing of what you tell your valued employees, things like that.
But wow I would rather have him as GM making these great moves. You can hire someone to help him communicate better.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:05 pm
J-X– I’d say McCann would fit the bill for a guy who comes through in clutch situations.
Drummond Boy
June 5th, 2009
6:05 pm
THE BRAVES ARE 6 GAMES OUT OF FIRST–NOT 5 AND A HALF. TRY TO KEEP UP.
Doc Holiday
June 5th, 2009
6:06 pm
I heard Brad Penny has a very high SLG and he is driving in lots of runs……….lets go get him.
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 5th, 2009
6:07 pm
My final argument concerning this new batting order.
If Chipper is more valuable in the clean up spot, then Cox is an IDIOT for putting him in the three hole for the last five years.
If Nate Mclouth is more valuable in the three hole than Chipper, then Cox is still an IDIOT.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:07 pm
#3
The third batter, in the three-hole, is generally the best all-around hitter on the team, often hitting for a high batting average but not necessarily very fast. Part of his job is to help set the table for the cleanup hitter, and part of it is to help drive in baserunners himself. Third-place hitters are best known for “keeping the inning alive”. However in recent years, some managers have tended to put their best slugger in this position.
[edit] #4
The fourth player in the batting order is known as the cleanup hitter, and is almost always one of the best hitters on the team, often the one with the most power. Baseball managers tend to place hitters who are most likely to reach base ahead of the clean-up man, so that the fourth batter can “clean” the bases by driving these baserunners home to score runs. His main goal is to drive in runs, although he is expected to score runs as well. In fact, the fourth spot in the order has the luxury of being somewhat “protected” from bad situations early in the game: the batter only rarely faces a spot with two outs and no baserunners in the first time through the order—possible if, for example, one of the first three batters hits a home run and the other two make outs. If nobody gets on base, the cleanup hitter has a chance to start a rally in the second inning by being the first batter, with zero outs. However, hitting cleanup also requires an exceptional level of talent, and the ability to deliver big hits in important situations (bases loaded, two out).
When I read this, I see the “best hitter on the team and the guy that reaches base most often” as Chipper, which is what it says the # 3 hitter should be. And Mac, to me anyway, fills the bill for the description of the #4 hitter the best.
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:08 pm
Chop Chop
Exactly how would you have handled the release differently to make things better for that pitcher.
Were you willing to pitch a substandard guy for a few starts, when you had a better one waiting at the ready?? We don’t need to give up any more games, if we can help it, and we helped it.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:09 pm
J-X I challenge YOU to find where in the #4 spot it says the guy should be a high OBP guy. Find it and show it to me.
J-X
June 5th, 2009
6:09 pm
McCann is a very good hitter in clutch, but do you really like the idea of using your catcher in the cleanup role? Knowing that he will have to take regular days off? You would think you would want to form your lineup so that you can keep your top four intact as much as possible.
Which I admit is impossible with chipper being one of them because he gets hurt so much. But I still don’t think you want you Catcher hitting 4th. But yes Mccann would be a solution….
Lets put chipper in the 5 spot! Just Kidding don’t blow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?)
June 5th, 2009
6:10 pm
Hey J-X, you’re the one defending Bobby Cox, not me. Good luck with that
DCBrave
June 5th, 2009
6:11 pm
We certainly need at least one more good bad in the lineup in order to be a legid contender.
I like McLouth but he’s just a good player with good power. But we should not get carried away thinking we’re good enough now with his addition.
Here’s a comparison of McLouth’s stats with pre-08 Frenchy’s”
McLouth: G HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG
2005 41 5 12 2 .257 .305 .450
2006 106 7 16 10 .233 .293 .385
2007 137 13 38 22 .258 .351 .459
Frenchy:
2005 70 14 45 3 .300 .336 .549
2006 162 29 103 1 .260 .293 .449
2007 162 19 105 5 .293 .338 .444
The only difference is that Frenchy suffered the sudden death syndrome last year and McLouth hit the jackpot.
As I said, I liked the McLouth trade and I think he’s a good player, but we need more. By the way, McLouth has not shown that he can consistently do what he did last year.
DCBrave
June 5th, 2009
6:11 pm
sorry that the alignment did not come out good, but you get the point.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 5th, 2009
6:12 pm
Let’s see McLouth’s numbers after say…3 weeks of batting in front of Chipper and McCann. I’d bet they’ll be good.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:12 pm
I think that McLouth fits the #1 or #2 spots the best, which is why I feel he should be leading off personally. I think Kelly or Kotchman would be best at #2, with Escobar at #6.
Tomas
June 5th, 2009
6:14 pm
I think what JS(braves president) said was very polite. Lets see how Glavine reacts.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:14 pm
Let’s see McLouth’s numbers after say…3 weeks of batting in front of Chipper and McCann. I’d bet they’ll be good.
It really doesn’t matter if he bats 1,2,or 3, he’s still gonna be hitting in front of those two right? So how can that help your argument?
Alec Baldwin as Blake
June 5th, 2009
6:14 pm
You think I’m [paying] you? I am not [paying] you. I’m here from downtown. I’m here from Wren and Schurholz. And I’m here on a mission of mercy.
Your name’s Gla-veen? You call yourself a pitcher you some-of-a-pitch?
(Smoltz: I don’t gotta listen to dis sh*t)
You certainly don’t, pal, cuz the good news is: you’re retired. The bad news is, you’ve got, both you’ve got just one week to b*tch about it in the papers. Starting tonight. Starting with tonight’s sh*t.
(Turns to Frenchy).
Oh, have I got your attention now? Good. Cuz we’re adding a little something to this month’s performance board. 1st prize is a spot on the roster. Anybody wanna see second prize?
(Holds up a putter)
Second prize is a used putter. Third prize is you’re retired…
Doc Holiday
June 5th, 2009
6:16 pm
Coach ( Moon Pie, Anyone?) for president
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:16 pm
J-X You still looking for that OBP reference in the #4 hitter? Or are you just not willing to admit that you misread it the first time?
Nova Scotia Steve
June 5th, 2009
6:17 pm
Is there not a better picture of Tom Glavine to put on the website…like that one’s pretty rough…Its looks like he’s blind drunk and a cop is shining a flashlight in his eyes…
Cameron
June 5th, 2009
6:17 pm
I do not believe we have any serious interest in Brad Penny. First of all, the only spot he would be able to take would be Hanson’s. That is not going to happen, nor is he a better pitcher. The only way we actually have been in talks with the Red Sox for Penny is in a three-way deal or as a precursor to another trade.
Say we have what it takes to get Penny, but another team doesn’t that wants him. The other team has something we want (offense, versatile bat, etc.) and we would be willing to trade for Penny and then deal him to them for what we want. But, even then, it would be purely speculative.
I like Buster Olney and I think he does a very good job. I also know he is well respected and has a lot of contacts. But, I just don’t see any validity to this one. Sorry, Buster.
Chop Chop
June 5th, 2009
6:19 pm
Wouldn’t have signed him in the first place, Wayne.
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:19 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
There’s a difference in batting 1st…right in front of Kelly or Escobar and hitting 3rd with potential runners on base right in front of Chipper.
If there are two runners of in front of McLouth or even one the opposition will more likely pitch to him, if he gets on then Chipper could come up with 2 runners on base.
mets fan in atlanta
June 5th, 2009
6:20 pm
Wayne in Utah,
But but but but JoJo pitched all those games from the beginning of the season until Medlen pitched…..so you’re saying there was a better alternative all along?
I’ve been screaming this all season….the Braves have sadly turned into a pennypinching franchise on level with the Royals and Pirates, and releasing Glavine for $1 million and leaving Hanson in the minors until now just proves it.
If they had really wanted to win this season, they wouldn’t have run JoJo out there, and (at the least) would have brought up Hanson instead of Medlen. See, everyone said “you can’t bring Hanson up because Glavine’s coming back”. The Braves knew this whole time they weren’t bringing Glavine back, several of you mentioned it days earlier about the doublespeak coming out lately.
Fine with me though, if Hanson is as good as advertised, then the Braves might would have won some of those JoJo games, and have a better record than the Mets. So good job, Frank Wren, stay strong.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 5th, 2009
6:22 pm
Macon Braves…
If he bats 1st…and Chipper 3rd…There will be a guy batting between them. This increases the likelihood that McLouth will be eliminated from the basebaths from DPs and fielder’s choices. In addition, batting lead-off, he is effectively batting behind the 8th and 9th place hitters…this really reduces his run-production opportunities. Both is runs scored and runs driven in will be reduced. Plus, by batting directly in front of someone other than Chipper or McCann, the pitches he will see will not be as good since the 2nd place hitter will create the afore mentioned outs.
TnBrian
June 5th, 2009
6:23 pm
WOW, if Chattanooga news has the Glavine being released as their top sports story on the news, it’s a big deal! They usually go straight to the Lady Vols,HS wrestling,HS/college football.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:25 pm
There’s a difference in batting 1st…right in front of Kelly or Escobar and hitting 3rd with potential runners on base right in front of Chipper.
So you have no confidence whatsoever that Kelly or Escobar can be effective at #2? If McLouth is leading off, hopefully by time Chipper comes up at #3 he is either at third or second with one or no outs at that point. What a great place for Chipper to be in then huh? Then they have to either pitch to Chipper or walk him (which is where that high OBP comes into play that the #3 hitter should have). If they walk him, then you have your cleanup hitter (who should be Mac right now on this team in my opinion) coming up with two runners on with one or no outs. How does this scenario not make any sense?
Heath (Cleveland)
June 5th, 2009
6:26 pm
There’s a difference in batting 1st…right in front of Kelly or Escobar and hitting 3rd with potential runners on base right in front of Chipper.
So you have no confidence whatsoever that Kelly or Escobar can be effective at #2?
Now you’ve got it! : )
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:27 pm
Heath—-Wow, guess you have ZERO confidence in Escobar and Johnson too huh? And it Bobby would sit Frenchy’s butt and have either Esco or Johnson (whoever isn’t in the 2 hole), Kotchman, and Diaz at the back of the order then the leadoff hitter should come up a little more often with runners on.
Penny for your Thought
June 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
I support getting Brad Penny ONLY if it means Jeff Francoeur is traded and gone for good.
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
No I’m just saying a guy, that just got here, leads our team in Homers and rbi. I’d rather have him hitting right in front of Chipper. And honestly right now while Chipper is in and out of the lineup, it makes sense to put McLouth in the 3rd spot. He’s more likely to play everyday than Mac and Chipper.
McFann :Ô:
June 5th, 2009
6:28 pm
Macon Braves Actually, I’d say Mac is the best power hitter on the team,
Yeah…unfortunately, he only has ELEVEN EXTRA-BASE HITS! Really needs to bump those power numbers up…not sure what the deal is…
TnBrian
June 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
Even the news here is saying that ESPN is reporting that the Braves are in talks with Bos. about Penny and a possible Francoeur deal. Maybe they should get their news from DOB?
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
Heath–Just out of curiosity, who is your pick to leadoff?
Couch Tater
June 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
Whoever posted that Alec 6:14, that’s persacally what I was thinking. Hee Hee. (I like the second prize, wish Ida thunka that.)
McFann :Ô:
June 5th, 2009
6:29 pm
J-X …but do you really like the idea of using your catcher in the cleanup role?
No!
David O'Brien
June 5th, 2009
6:30 pm
Frank Wren on the ESPN report about Braves supposed interest in Brad Penny: “There is no validity to that rumor. That has not even been discussed.”
DCBrave
June 5th, 2009
6:30 pm
Here’s a comparison of McLouth’s stats with pre-08 Frenchy’s”
McLouth:
G HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG
2005 41 5 12 2 .257 .305 .450
2006 106 7 16 10 .233 .293 .385
2007 137 13 38 22 .258 .351 .459
Frenchy:
G HR RBI SB BA OBP SLG
2005 70 14 45 3 .300 .336 .549
2006 162 29 103 1 .260 .293 .449
2007 162 19 105 5 .293 .338 .444
Tried again to see whether I can get a good alignment. The point is before last year, for their first three years in the majors, Frenchy was better than McLouth almost in every category. McLouth needs to be tested in time just like Frenchy was a year ago. Hence we shall not be content with adding him.
Also, apologize for those typos in my last post.
Alec Baldwin as Blake
June 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
Couch Tater, it really is a perfect parallel you hit on.
DCBrave
June 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
I give up.
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
Also I’d much prefer Escobar hitting 6th or 7th. But since he’s aggressive I don’t know where you’d put him.
I’d rather have Escobar hit 2nd instead of Diaz/Anderson/Frenchy.
But when Casey comes back it could be different. Except we could potentially have 5 lefties in a row. The more important question/ comment is Casey should not hit 8th. With the pitcher most likely bunting you don’t want a slow player hitting there.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:31 pm
And honestly right now while Chipper is in and out of the lineup, it makes sense to put McLouth in the 3rd spot. He’s more likely to play everyday than Mac and Chipper.
If Chipper is out of the lineup, then maybe McLouth does fit the #3 hole best on those that are left and should be put in that spot. But Chipper IS in the lineup right now and he’s the guy that the #3 hole matches to a “T”.
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:33 pm
I’ll just go ahead and put it out there. I believe Tex could’ve hit more homers if Chipper hit 4th. I don’t like Tex anymore but I’m just saying.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:33 pm
bravos–I said earlier that I would prefer Kelly or Kotchman at the 2 hole behind McLouth and move Esco down into a run producing spot, so we agree completely on Esco and Kotchman.
This is the blog where you can call Blaine Boyer a fat tub of goo
June 5th, 2009
6:34 pm
DOB: “One other thing. If I was traded or released, would anyone burn a candle for me, perhaps by a picture of me wearing my leather jacket that’s so popular with a few of you? No? I didn’t think so, either.”
I for one would construct a pile of goo and set fire to it in DOB’s honor.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:35 pm
McFann– LOL, I’m talking your guy up and you chime in and complain about him….you better hope word doesn’t get back to him about that
Alec Baldwin as Blake
June 5th, 2009
6:35 pm
By the way, anybody noticed that the combined record of the Braves and Phillies versus left handed starters is 25-12? So much for the lefty-stack problem. (Of course, the whole league is winning against lefties, besides the Nats, so…)
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
Have you not watched the last couple of games? Chipper has not been playing against lefties. If we have McLouth hitting 3rd it’s easier to just move Mac in the 4th spot when he doesn’t play( and if Mac doesn’t play Anderson)
If we have Chipper hitting 3rd and McLouth 1-2…or 5-6…it’s not smart to then put him in the 3 hole when Chipper isn’t in there. That moves too many people around in the lineup.
Heath (Cleveland)
June 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
Macon Braves…
In all seriousness, I have a lot of confidence in Yunel, and I Love a middle of the batting order of Escobar, McLouth, Chipper and McCann (2-5). My whole argument against McLouth in the 1-hole is that his speed is LESS important than his power/slugging. We need an RBI-man, and right now, the best RBI men are McLouth, Chipper, and McCann–the heart of the order. I would even contend that by using this as the middle of the order, Johnson and Escobar will get better pitches, giving all three of those guys a significant amount more RBI opportunities. Now, if we get Dye, for example…I am with ya 100% with putting McLouth 1st or 2nd. Our team, as constructed, needs McLouth more in the RBI batting positions…that’s all.
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
This much debate about Nate only adds to the tought that he is a versatile hitter and can hit pretty much anywhere….sounds like we got helluva player no matter where he bats….top for speed middle for power….each has its advantage. I like the argumeent of him hitting ahead of chipper in the three spot as both CJ and Mac have tendecys to take more pitches than kelly or yunel which limit strike out throw out possiblities whilee adding pop to the middle of the line up.
McFamished
June 5th, 2009
6:36 pm
“…but do you really like the idea of using your catcher in the cleanup role?”
Yes. He likes to “clean up” on the buffet in the clubhouse.
McFann :Ô:
June 5th, 2009
6:37 pm
Macon Braves–
Haha…well, maybe if word does get to him, he’ll smack a few of those hits that get him to second base.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:38 pm
Any way you cut this, I think we are all excited about McLouth being in the lineup wherever he is hitting. I do enjoy good debate with respectful guys like those arguing with me today. Beats the heck out of some of the childish, immature arguing that some people on here insist on doing.
Steve from OH
June 5th, 2009
6:38 pm
I don’t have a problem with batting McLouth third, fourth, or fifth…I just think putting him in the leadoff spot is a mistake. No need to have our team leader in homers lead off. You lose a lot of value from those homers that way…
Tony LaRussa
June 5th, 2009
6:38 pm
If I had McLouth I would bat him 9th.
AJC SUCKS
June 5th, 2009
6:39 pm
yall know i was reading about the possible trade of Brad Penny. and then i looked where i was reading it from THE AJC… And then I think if the AJC knows about it, it probably wouldn’t happen..
Scott
June 5th, 2009
6:39 pm
DOB, any updates on Kotchman???
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:40 pm
And Chipper’s numbers don’t suck hitting 4th either.
David O'Brien
June 5th, 2009
6:40 pm
Kotchman’s delay in returning is due to fact he also sustained a calf strain when he got hit by that pitch. The combination of the contusion and calf strain has left him unable to run, still, even though there’s been progress each day, he told me.
The DL is a possibility the Braves will consider, maybe two or three days, if he’s not ready or it doesn’t look like he’s going to be ready soon.
Steve from OH
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
From BA’s mock draft:
“BRAVES. Atlanta doesn’t try to hide the fact that it covets homestate product Zack Wheeler. As much as the Braves love Matzek, they’re sticking to MLB’s slot recommendation and that won’t get a deal with him done. It comes down to Minor vs. White, with White’s Saturday outing looming large. If Minor is gone and White bombs, Miller is Atlanta’s guy.
Projected Pick: MIKE MINOR.”
ESPN
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
Hey, “AJC SUCKS,” tell me about, right? We got the scoop on these guys today as usual. I mean, the scoop was total B.S., but hey, scoopety scoop!
AJC: Breaking News
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
Braves to re-sign Glavine as player/manager. Wren fires Cox instead. Details forthcoming.
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
Thanks. I enjoy a good debate too without childishness. lol.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
bravos Actually I almost never miss a game, haven’t for about 25 years or so now. And the last game that was played, Chipper came in and pinch hit against a lefty. Toe seemed to be a lot better so hopefully he won’t aggravate it again…..I know that’s a lot to ask for but I gotta be optimistic
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:41 pm
Coach
So your saying if Bobby ever makes a lineup change that doesn’t suit your idea of the perfect idea, the HE is an idiot??? I’m sorry, I will side with the man who has actually “coached” in the bigs.
David O'Brien
June 5th, 2009
6:42 pm
By the way, Buddy Carlyle was just diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. Found out yesterday. I was talking to him while ago about it, as he prepared to give himself his first insulin injection. He spent most of today in a Diabetes 101 program at Piedmont to learn all about what he’s going to have to do to treat and control the disease for the rest of his life.
HuffBraves
June 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
If Kotch is DLed, might we finally see Barbaro???
BJones
June 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
The Macon Giants are the new thing in town….
PWHjort
June 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
I would bat McLouth 2nd or 5th (and Yunel the other 2nd or 5th) with Chipper and McCann in the line-up and 3rd in Chipper’s absence or 4th in McCann’s absence. The only spot 1-5 I’m not comfortable with him is leading off. Yes, I know he can steal bases. Stealing bases doesn’t make you a good lead off hitter. Getting on base a lot does. And McLouth does that, but you’re basically wasting one of your biggest power threats by batting him lead-off. Let us remember that McLouth hit more HR than anyone on the Braves’ team last season.
AJC SUCKS
June 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
If the AJC knows about it, it probably will not happen,lol
Lloyd
June 5th, 2009
6:43 pm
DOB– concerning Penny coming to the Braves… so, you’re saying there’s a chance?
Paging Dr. Jones
June 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
Kotchman was going to try and play but Chipper explained to him the importance of resting one’s minor injuries.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
Hey DOB….We gunna get the game in tonight?
dgd
June 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
The talk about Dunn coming to Atlanta is funny. I live outside of DC and can tell you that Dunn is absolutely the worst fielder at any position I’ve ever seen. Worse than Greg Luzinski was, worse than anyone you can name. The fact that this guy, who was born to DH, has never played an inning for an AL team is amazing. He would be a perfect fit (hitting-wise anyway) to replace Papi in Boston. Salary or no, it’s going to take more than a Jo-Jo to get him too, as he’s about the only reason other than Ryan Zimmerman for hometown fans to go watch the Nats this year…
Yeah, but it's my NAME
June 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
(C)ouldn’t
(O)ffer
(A) real
(C)oach
(H)elp tying his shoes.
AJC SUCKS
June 5th, 2009
6:44 pm
Lloyd, its not gonna happen… the AJC knows about it
Wayne in Utah
June 5th, 2009
6:45 pm
Chop Chop
That was a non-answer my friend. You are in the situation that Frank Wren was in on Tuesday, EXACTLY how do you handle it where you don’t throw a tired old arm out there a few times to keep from hurting his feelings.
Come on man, if your going to complain about the way it was handled, give me an alternative that will work. Otherwise, your just venting.
Sometimes these things just don’t get handled well.
Ever fire anybody??? You want it to go well, but in the end, it basically sucks for the guy getting fired. Nobody blames him for getting mad, but what else would you have done?
bravos2249
June 5th, 2009
6:45 pm
Macon Braves (RIP)
And to bring in a stat that’s hardly used, but is on BBR.com….according to “1st batter of the game stats”….which means it only totals what that player does hitting leadoff in the 1st..Yunel has the best avg among him, KJ, and Nate. And he has the best avg when leading off an inning too. That doesn’t mean I want him to hit leadoff though.lol
PWHjort
June 5th, 2009
6:45 pm
That is AWFUL news about Buddy Carlyle. Awful. I’ve had a lot of people close to me be affected by the disease and let me tell you, it isn’t something I’d wish on my worst enemy.
Lloyd
June 5th, 2009
6:46 pm
Guy and woman walking down the sidewalk and my buddy Harry says….”Woah, would you look at the butt on that!” And I say, “Yeah, he must work out.”