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Mitchie-san
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
I hope Turner Field doesnt catch on fire.
Braindawg
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
McLouth, I mean.
Bryan
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
HerbG,
i would be interested to hear about the two 300 game winners your referring to?
bravesgirlnc
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
Wow! So very excited about this trade!!
GboroBravo
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
What do some potential batting orders look like????
scottbravesfan
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
Have a day Frank Wren!!!!!!!!!!! Tommy Hanson and Nate McClouth? WOW
RHR
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
Thank you thank you thank you DOB for keeping us updated on what has turned out to be a very busy day for you.
jason
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
CF McLouth
SS Escobar
3B Jones
C McCann
LF Anderson
RF Francouer
2B Johnson
???
Where’s Kotchman going to bat? Insane. Diaz, Prado, Ross, and Infante off the bench. That trade made alot of problems go away. Also, I say McLouth moves to LF next year for Schaefer. Schaef’s defense is to good.
This may be a wake up call for Frenchy, also.
Steve from OH
June 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
Oh, and I noticed his (look away, Lew) BABIP is a low .262. Looks like his offensive numbers will improve a bit. Think Frank noticed that? He hinted at that kinda stuff during the Vazquez acquisition.
bgvt
June 3rd, 2009
7:37 pm
So the roster is changing quickly. The pitching staff is a man down for now — not a problem since Hanson will be called up on Saturday. With McLouth joining the roster and Hanson being activated, will Blanco and Barton be sent down by the end of the week?
Jeff321
June 3rd, 2009
7:37 pm
“Jeff Francoeur swats away at the first pitch.”
-CSN Announcer
McHiccup
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
McCann, McFann, McLouth, Mcturtle
David O'Brien
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
buzzmeat, i wrote up higher, Hanson is starting Saturday. Medlen to bullpen.
Fluffy McNutter
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
AWESOME deal. Let’s see, pay Glavine $1M for being on active roster, another $1M after 30 days on the roster or pay an All-Star OF $2M this year? People bitched about Wren not addressing the OF and as recently as two hours ago whined about Glavine (who smart fans knew wouldn’t help us this year even back when he signed that incentive laden deal), where are they now?
I call things like I see it and have criticized Wren in the past for things, but you can’t argue with today’s moves.
safetydave
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
According to Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Pirates trade Nate McLouth to Braves – The return is two pitchers, Jeff Locke and Charlie Morton, and outfielder Gorkys Hernandez.
Murph Rocks
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
Thank you, Frank Wren, for realizing your job is to make this team competitive, find creative ways to get deals done and protect the team’s most vital long-term prospects. You did that all today.
Moreover, you signaled to the players on the 25 man roster (and throughout the organization) that you are serious about winning right now and you are going to do your best to put them in a position to do just that.
Thank you, Frank Wren.
Now it’s up to the men on the field. Get it done.
Steve from OH
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
So is Barton with the big club now? Has that been confirmed?
MPJ
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
FYI:
This past year, the Pirates signed McLouth to a three-year, $15.75 million contract.
President of Matt Diaz Fan Cub
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
Thank goodness Diaz wasn’t involved in the deal.
BravesfaninNC
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
Great day to be a braves fan.We got A very good player without haveing to give too much
fred
June 3rd, 2009
7:38 pm
Hi all! What’s going on today?
Braves Fan 88
June 3rd, 2009
7:39 pm
This isn’t a great trade. The Braves gave up too much.. 2 Top 10 prospects..for a .256 hitter!
MPJ
June 3rd, 2009
7:39 pm
Clarification:
This past OFFSEASON, the Pirates signed McLouth to a three-year, $15.75 million contract.
David O'Brien
June 3rd, 2009
7:39 pm
McLouth is a three-year, $15.75 mill contract through 2011, with a 2012 option
BravesfaninNC
June 3rd, 2009
7:40 pm
He is a 256 hitter with 9HR.A guy who has great Speed
coach smith
June 3rd, 2009
7:40 pm
c jonze
McClouth is NOT a “bridge” to ANYONE! He is the future of CF here. He is only 27 years old, a Gold Glover, All Star last year, and the Braves will control him cheaply for a while (through 2012 season according to cot’s mlb contracts)
Schafer will either be traded for something els or learn a new position in the OF….he can’t hit a fastball for goodness sake
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:40 pm
Wow. MLB Network lit up Braves. Talking about how they needed to let Glavine pitch in Triple A. Yeah bozos HE DID. And about how this trade is trying to win over fans from the release. Like how they signed Lowe right after Smoltz left.
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
love the mclouth deal; but don’t focus on the gold glove as he had one of the worst defensive ratings last year – there is an article on it i’ll find and repost. however – great move and he can swing over the left. great move – solid move. and he’s signed for several years. fantastic move.
i was shocked, still am, about glavine, but with hanson coming up and the mclouth trade it’s time to pack up those ’90s memories and move on to the ’10s …
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
.256 is better than .205 from Schafer…and around .250 from Blanco.
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
DOB (terrible time for this)-
Do you know Shiavone Jr.? Ran into him win my HS Alums won the state title, Go Greyhounds! (next day watched my college alums ELON play terrible and lose against GT).
Mixxo
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
Wow! Liking this a lot!
A dramatic win last night.
Glavine released (good luck pal, but you would have gotten shelled, face it)
A real good CFer in McLouth
Our ace on the mound tonight
Lets go guys!!
Bawlmer Brave
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
Sad to see Gorkys go, but that’s the only piece that hurts in the trade.
TnBrian
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
Wren is building a dynasty. Laugh if you want, but the future is looking better and better! McLouth?? That just hasn’t sunk in yet. If/when JF is gone,probably when Heyward is ready, that’s a possible OF of Schafer/McLouth/Heyward…WOW, talk about covering some ground. At least I’ve heard Heyward is pretty darn good out there. That to go with Mac/Escobar/Hanson/CJ/Lowe/JJ etc.
wiki
June 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
I think McLouth’s power will keep him out of the leadoff spot. Where in the order did he hit in Pitt.?
antifirstpitchman
June 3rd, 2009
7:42 pm
Glavine going back to Mets–you heard it here first………Frenchy up for trade to Baltimore? Blanko will be sent back soon……glad Hanson is getting a look…Bravos on the way up.
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:42 pm
Barton a Rocket Scientist? Someone posted this a little while back:
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/sports/braves/stories/2009/05/16/atlanta_braves_prospects.html
chuckw/deadjournalist
June 3rd, 2009
7:42 pm
here’s the rob neyer article about mclouth’s defense: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=Neyer_Rob&entryID=3684832
N Nine
June 3rd, 2009
7:42 pm
3 years/$15.75M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option
3 years/$15.75M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option
signed extension with Pittsburgh 2/17/09 (avoided arbitration, $3.8M-$2.75M)
$1.5M signing bonus
09:$2M, 10:$4.5M, 11:$6.5M, 12:$10.65M club option ($1.25M buyout)
2010 & 2011 salaries may increase by $0.5M ($0.2M each for Gold Glove or All Star selection in previous season, $0.1M for Silver Slugger)
2012 salary may increase by $0.75M ($0.3M each for Gold Glove or All Star selection in previous season, $0.15M for Silver Slugger)
willieg
June 3rd, 2009
7:43 pm
all you idiots the braves wont win the division its belongs to the mets this year mclouth please with chipper out again chipper wont play 100 games this year the braves will finish in 3rd place and chipper can go and work in his mom and dads fern farm where he belongs chipper is finished.so are the sorry braves they are 4.5 games out today by july 2nd they will be 10 games out game over, trade hanson to the yankees so we can win another world series losers.
Schafer's Facial Expression
June 3rd, 2009
7:43 pm
DP #2. Braves are on their game.
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:43 pm
lol
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090603&content_id=5127184&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
keylargo
June 3rd, 2009
7:43 pm
This is a McLouth High School stat but wow is it impressive. 180 stolen bases in 181 attempts during a 4 year career.
wiki
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
Reminds me of the morning I picked up the paper and saw the Braves had acquired Denny Neagle from the Pirates. I was thinking that was going to seal a second straight championship. Guess I was off by two games.
JoshyRyanSportsAuthority
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
I’m sorry but you are all sports nerds! You are worse than star trek/ wars fan s with your trvia dweebs wtf u homo loser thugs. I bet every1 on this site knows how many strike outs Lowe had last year combined. LAMOOOOS none of you have seen a friend who isn’t a sims characters unlike me who’s pees and sometimes poops all by myself. I rule dudes surf away. P.S. Surfs Up best movie ever those dude penguins are hella sexy.
gayle
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
When are all you die hard fans going to realize this team is not about winning, it is about money, only the money. Not just Glavine, but Hanson waiting until he must wait another year before arbitration.
Dye, Dunn, Berkman – keep dreaming all you fans. Unless they will play for league minimum, they ain’t coming here.
Why won’t this paper stop slapping each others’ back and report on the finances and the fact that this team is for sale?
Like they said in “watergate”, just follow the money and all your questions will be answered.
braves2355
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
k with a k you love the mclouth deal and and hanson coming up but neither one of those things doesnt happen if they dont release glavine. braves are much better off with hanson and mclouth than with glavine.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!
It’s GAME TIME!!!!!!!! HOOO!!!!!!!!!
oh SNAP!
June 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
DOB
will you PLEASE relay the contract info to Chip and Joe so they will stop WUNDURING about his contract.
Zephyr 8
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
If you don’t know much about McLouth, your gonna love him as a player. He makes diving catches night after night, Steals bases, and hits HRs. One problem right? hes left handed. But he hits .298 this year against lefties and about .230 against rightys so far. Also hes signed cheap for years to come and still has room to grow. Possibly a 25/25 guy who can still hit for average and win goldgloves. I have watched him since he was in AA Altoona and he is a guy you want on your team.
dbbraves
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
DOB Always hated the guys on this blog who called for bobby cox and frank wren to be fired eight, maybe nine times a day. Today im the one who thinks they should go. And i dont give a rats ass if their reason for screwing Glavine was to get Mclouth, this was CLASSLESS. The reason big name free agents came to play for the braves in the 90’s for less money, is because of the quality of the people surrounding this team. I DID NOT think they should have resigned Glavine (who i love as a player)in the offseason. Up to that point they owed him nothing. But after signing him, they DID owe him the opportunity to end his career where it started. Maybe he didnt have anything left, but what ballplayer wants to find that out in some jerks office, and not on the field where it counts? No one will sign with the braves again unless they are paid top dollar to do so. NO MORE CLASS=NO MORE DISCOUNTS
Mekons
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
The McLouth trade is great news. I have a feeling he will be a corner outfielder, though. Schafer has a better arm and more range, IMO. But we get a guy with power and speed who can hit fourth. Morton was always trade bait, and neither of the others are anywhere near the majors.
I am sad Tommy is gone, but it is probably for the best. A couple of so-so rehab starts didn’t really give me much hope that he could contribute much and now we have Hanson in the majors.
McLouth is going to get a bit more expensive in coming years, but he’s a great fit for us.
The Baseball Gods
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
We haven’t forgot about you Braves. Thanks for your patience.
safetydave
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
batted 3rd for Buccos
FSUBravesfan10
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
My brother called and told me the news on everything that occured as I was in the library studying, to say I was shocked is an understatement. McClouth move is a very solid move for the Braves and it is going to take pressure off of KJ so he doesn’t have to bat at the top.
I was pissed originally with how the Braves treated Glavine and to an extent still am. But Frank Wren is doing what is best for the team and while Hanson is far from proven, he can’t keep him in triple A while putting those number up. PErsonally I hope Glavine get a chance to pitch for a contender, though I will cringe if it is for the Phillies or Mets, but if we face him I hope we put up the runs we did on Glavine his first 2 years against us when he left us for more money and for the Mets. In away the Braves got him back for wanting more money and years when he left for the Mets, and maybe I am just cynical but I applaud FW for making the moves that he did.
AMG
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
Hey DOB
Are you busy? Are you wishing you had taken an extra day off? I can just see Ms Rogers sitting on her couch laughing . . . or running on the treadmill.
coach smith
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
willieg
if you love New York sooooo much and hate Atlanta then feel free to hit 75 North and don’t stop until you get back to your Trashy City, FAT Women, and Cold crappy Weather!
Joe Schmoe
June 3rd, 2009
7:45 pm
Once again Schafer is not going to go anywhere, if anything he will be learning RF soon.
KC
June 3rd, 2009
7:46 pm
McClouth and Hanson NOW… Hudson likely back in about 8 weeks.
I challenge ANY team in baseball to improve themselves THAT much mid-season.
Unless the Mets or Phillies QUICKLY make an impact trade of their own, the Braves are now the NL East favorites in my opinion.
o-me
June 3rd, 2009
7:46 pm
That was more of a question but if they had wanted him, he would have been in the deal, right smart a@@. my girl friends last name was Pennski…I think, maybe, something like that. Oh, I don’t hate U.
Mike
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
The Braves gave up way too much as usual. Three youngs players with relatively high ceilings that would be under club control for over 15 years combined. McLouth is a good player but not worth nearly what they gave up – great trade by a Pirates team that finally knows what it is doing. The Braves aren’t going anywhere this year and will regret this trade a la Wainwright and Teixeira.
And DOB, McLouth is far from strong defensively by any reasonable metric. In fact, most metrics have him as one of the worst defensive center fielders in the league last year. That Gold Glove last year was a joke. He needs to be shifted to left but his bat isn’t strong enough to carry that position (on a team with a decent OF that is).
This trade reeks of Bobby Cox. Veteran presence valued over youth with potential.
Chop Chop
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
It is possible for Wren to be a **** regarding Glavine’s release and make a strong move for McLouth. He’s not all bad or all good. Wren will be judged by how much his team wins. That’s the only fair way to judge a general manager. If he doesn’t win enough, nobody here will like him.
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
Wasnt Gorky part of the renteria deal….wren is looking shrewd.
Scott S.
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
Well my over all feeling is this, I am happy for the here and now/future Braves and Sad to see Glavine go for old time sakes. I will feel better once Hanson records his first strike out though!! Looking like a better team with a power pitching staff!!! Go Bravos!! Thanks for everything Tommy G!!!
Mitch
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
Dave, any opinion on Glavine’s release?
I’m.. angry. I just posted on Mark Bradley’s blog about this. Mark posted that he feels Wren made the right move with Glavine. I just dont think this was handled properly at all. I want to see Tommy Hanson just as much as any other Braves fan, but I dont think that Glavine’s release should have been handled in this manner. The Braves should either have not signed him this winter, or, waited for him to pitch a few major league games, and see what the results were, before making this decision. Frank said this decision with Glavine was based on “performance”, but Glavine pitched six scoreless innings his last time out. Doesnt that deserve at least a chance?
First, the Braves lose Glavine in 2002, more so Tom’s fault, at that time, I think, because John Scherholtz wrote in his book Built to Win that we offered him a 2 year, 10 mil a year deal. This time, I have to blame this release on Frank Wren. I hope that Tommy Hanson turns out to be the next… John Smoltz, but I dont think that Tom Glavine should have been released like this, after 244 wins, and all he meant to this team, and this city, for eighteen years.
Mitch
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
Nate’s most ab’s in the past 3 yrs have been hitting 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
N Nine
June 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
Now barton up…
TPM
June 3rd, 2009
7:48 pm
Let’s wait and see if Glavine pitches anywhere this year and averages more than 14 outs a start and less than last year’s 5.40 era before we crucify Frank Wren.
Tomas
June 3rd, 2009
7:48 pm
I just have to say Wren is making all the right choices. Calling Tommy Hanson up, aquiring a CF with power and speed. Moving Kris Medlen to the bulpen.
I think it’s a fair trade. Considering Nate Mclouth it’s still pretty young(28), and he is signed through the 2012 season. 3 years/$15.75M (2009-11), plus 2012 club option.
When Schafer is definitely ready, Mclouth could be traded. I assume he’ll be the leadoff hitter.
CF Nate Mclouth
SS Yunel Escobar
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann
LF Garret Anderson
2B Kelly Johnson
RF Jeff Franceour
1B Casey Kotchman
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:48 pm
Nate made 384/388 po in the outfield last season.
Chop Chop
June 3rd, 2009
7:48 pm
Blanco’s going back down to Gwinnett. He might as well get his hacks in.
Zephyr 8
June 3rd, 2009
7:48 pm
He stole 23 out of 26 attempts last year. Now thats something we don’t have…
Zephyr 8
June 3rd, 2009
7:49 pm
Any word on whether he’ll hit leadoff or not?
BravesfaninNC
June 3rd, 2009
7:49 pm
btw Mclouth is 27years old not 28
willieg
June 3rd, 2009
7:49 pm
the yankees will win the ws with more pitching you will se tommy g in a yankee uniform soon, he will be a yankee, or a royal you heard it here first he might join smoltz.
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
Any chance Nate makes it down to the ballyard tonight?
He is in Pittsburgh, but their game was rained out.
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
All -
Pirates building around Pedro Alvarez’s MLB timeline?
Kinda like Tampa Bay with Longoria?
Pat
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
Nate Mclouth isnt going to bat lead off guys give it a break hes a middle lineup guy
pinkygonzales
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
i love this trade. McClouth is a centerfielder, as is Schafer, so we had no space for Hernandez. I wish him well. Charlie Morton was never going to be in our rotation, Medlen and Hanson were ahead of him and Hudson is on the way back. So be it. Locke is a ways away, so you can’t count on him at all. what we have done is added speed and to power to our major league line-up. I’ve always been a “forget the farm” type fan. We added an All-Star centerfielder and didn’t lose a single player off our major league roster. this is a good deal.
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
willieg
Guess what..Nobody CARES!
RHR
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
Hey sounds like Kelly’s intro song musical tastes has improved.
Roman Gal
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
For those saying Schafer will move over to a corner upon his return…
Nate McLouth is not a great Centerfielder, he’s just ok. When Schafer is ready, he’ll be the CF and McLouth will slide over. McLouth has a strong throwing arm and he’s fast, but he’s not really gold-glove caliber, gold-glove notwithstanding.
abwright
June 3rd, 2009
7:50 pm
Joe just mentioned that Tom Glavine asked for his release.
c jonze
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
coach smith
No way Jordan gets traded, with the farm team’s lack of depth in the outfield (Heyward not withstanding)
We’ll see who’s defense is best suited for CF, but Jordan WILL NOT be traded away.
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
All -
Someone set the press box on fire tomorrow night…
McGriff sounds like Mclouth kinda.
“We didn’t start the fiiiiiiire.”
Scott S.
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
The guys announcing tonights game do not seem too broken up about Glavines release and seem more interested in Hanson starting Saturday and Nat coming on over!!
Chop Chop
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
It’s obvious that we have another guy whose last name will be spelled five or six different ways.
(Yippee.)
MFin04
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
Just head about Glavine, Hanson, and McClouth! WOW great day! Love Nate, speedy guy, will be a great leadoff hitter for the Braves and will allow KJ to drive in runs with his doubles!!! Awesome! Feel horrible for Glavine, but he was going to be paid way too much for services we did not need from him. Is Medlen going to the pen for sure?
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:51 pm
apparently powell and I think alike.
Renegator
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
So where does McClouth bat? Leadoff? Clean-up? (he does have 4 more HRs than any Brave).
I hope the Braves keep Schafer and let him continue to develop in AAA this year and then move over to LF or RF next year.
Braves323
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
Frank Wren is a joke and shows no class.
Schafer's Facial Expression
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
You folks saying Tom asked for his release, keep it in context. He was offered a chance to retire, to which he said, “uh, release me.”
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
Gotta say I’m impressed so far that Lilly hasn’t hit nobody.
I’m guessing Nate will still wear number 13?
Bobby's Cox
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
New report coming out….
Glavine is gonna start a sequel to his book, “None but the Braves.”
He’s gonna call it, “Anyone but the Braves”
Happy Braves Fan
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
game is on-line at http://www.sticktv.net, channel 2. password is sticktv.net; you don’t need to download anything to watch. showing the peachtree feed. frank wren will be up next inning to discuss the trade/release.
Anders
June 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
Congrats Braves fans. just heard during the Yankee game about the Braves getting MCClouth. Solid acquisition. Plus hanson’s coming up. And they released Tom Glavine. Sounds like the Braves recognized they couldn’t wait until July to make their move.
Good marks. Interesting to see what this spurs the Mets or Phils to do. Got to run out for a bit. Might be back to chat later.
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
We dont get Nate if we dont release glavine….Which would you rather have….
Slugger (http://www.theweeklyscene.com)
June 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
Roman Gal -
Fine by me, Mclouth to LF, Schafer to CF, Heyward to RF…
Come 2011 Francoeur to…Boston?
Maybe the Red Sox will give us Zach Daeges.
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
Chop Chop
that’s why I’m sticking with Nate…lol
FloridaBrave
June 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
P.S.
Wren got Jair Jurrjens and Nate McLouth for Edgar Renteria, Charlie Morton, and Jeff Locke.
Not bad.
Vinings Jim
June 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
Andruw on MLB vs Petite – 4-6-3 DP. I guess it’s okay now we didn’t sign him.