that is one good thing about not being able to watch the game tonight BJones, i wont watch his annoyin hop or bat waggle…cant see that crap on the radio
I don’t think Lowe should deck anyone after that acting job Yunel put on last night on the ball that hit four inches above his hand. Chip’s suggestion for an Emmy Nomination wasn’t a bad idea. He sold it well.
Its my understanding that Soriano does the hop to make the catch “not routine” so he will concentrate on making the catch instead of pulling a Kelly Johnson.
Hey guys lay off Chipper. You drag your butt out on to a baseball field for probably well over 30 years and see how you feel. Baseball is not a grinding kind of game, but it is when you do it for 8 months out of the year with only a few days off per month. You might develop some foot problems as well.
Bob – thanks for the link to the article on Mark Lemke. For those who were not listening to the radio (most of you, I’m sure), during the bottom of the 7th, Lemmer and Jim Powell constantly mentioned the no-hitter in an effort to jinx it, and Chipper made it pay off.
I definitely think the Braves are stalling in bringing Glavine back…Bobby Cox stated they have three option to talk over with Glavine…I’m guessing…1. Pitch out the Bullpen 2. Release/Buy him out (not sure they can do that) or 3 Trade Him…
Don’t know how I feel about Glavine coming back…I really don’t
I cant believe no one else has mentioned putting Diaz at first and keeping Anderson in Left field. Too bad Bobby didn’t!!
I would rather see Diaz in CF and keep Anderson in LF. Then you can keep the righty Prado in as well at 1B. Not like your much defensively in CF since Blanco is just average out there.
Paul Weller – loath, disgust and intrigue in one scrawny Englishman is what Mr Weller is…
baseball – yes we beat the unwinnable (is that a word) Cubs
Chicago is a cold, sheety (nice Architecture) sheethole with a very bad sporting team… who cares, a very slow kindy team could beat the Cubbies
On a sad note, I was exercising my Australian right to drink red wine today in Central Park and got arrested for street drinking… I then exercised my “freedom of speech” right to call said arrester a pig.
oh oh, and they were a Mets fan and I wAS wearing my Chipper nos 10 jersey
all in all, My chram got me off the hook, but I lost 80% of a great bottle of Cakebread Cabernet
So the upshot – Bravos about to go on a 8-2 run and then a 40-12 run to make us nos 1 in NL BEASTTTTTTTTTTT
Looking at the replay, Escobar did not fake getting hit by a pitch. He fell backward trying to avoid the ball. On replay, you can see the umpire pointing to first base about the same time Escobar hits the ground. Falling on his back like that shook him up a bit (maybe took his breath). When he got up, what was he supposed to do? Say “no, ump, that ball didn’t hit me.”
I mean how many hitters turn to the umpire and say, “That wasn’t ball four, ump, I’ll take a strike on that pitch. Thanks, anyway.”
Oh man…Ian Snell might pitch that game! Ian Snell!! If he does, and BMac is kept out due to the DGANG thing, I’m gonna be furious! He didn’t really get to face Ian Snell when they were in Pittsburgh…I mean, he did, but he couldn’t see, so it didn’t really count…
Am I the only one who realizes that the Braves lost the division last year by 20 damn games and had an absolutely dreadful pitching staff in the second half of 2008?
Can we please stop pretending or even entertaining the notion that that dropped pop-up cost the Braves anything more than the lead in the ninth inning of a June regular season game?
cvbravesI mean how many hitters turn to the umpire and say, “That wasn’t ball four, ump, I’ll take a strike on that pitch. Thanks, anyway.”
You know, the Rule Book actually has a rule for that–a batter is called out if he refuses to take first base after ball four. Haha…I doubt that’s ever happened…
Francoeur still has a terrible OBP and OPS. He still sucks and has no business on a major league roster.
But the sad fact is, like others mentioned in the previous thread, that homerun will give him another two weeks of sucking before it is outta Cox’s mind.
i dont think garret thought he deserved to be on first lastnight after he struckout cause it took him a while to run down there but im sure glad he took it anyway
Bobby Cox has been meeting with Frank Wren for an hour, and I’m hearing from a pretty reliable person that it’s about Glavine. Might not be good news for Glavine fans, either. Again, I haven’t confirmed this, but I’m hearing that his return might not be a given. Keep in mind that $1 mill bonus he gets the day he’s added to the roster. I’ll leave it at that, for now.
a batter is called out if he refuses to take first base after ball four.
How is that even a rule? Did someone, once back in the day, decide he’d rather try to hit then take his base?
(although I do have to give props to Mac for not taking 1st when he got hit on the foot- his run was meaningless, no point to taking the bag )
BMoney, Chipper is also getting a cool 13 million dollars plus a season to play a kids game for that 8 months, while some of us are barely getting by, least the man could do is to actually earn some of that jack by going out there and do what he’s paid to do and that’s play baseball. You think Cal Ripken, Jr was never hurt during that streak, of course he was, he just didn’t sit out when he had the slightest bit of pain. Chipper on the other hand is making this a yearly occurrence.
Yes, that’s my problem with KAWAKAMI. I thought he would be an ace, lights out since he was a star of such long-standing in JAPAN. (Richbrave)
why would you assume that? almost all the Japanese who come over here are the cream of the crop and only a couple have ever had careers here anything like they did there. Most here pegged him as a mid-rotation starter at best.
I doubt we’re talking trade with regards to Glavine…more likely they just won’t put him on the roster and he’ll retire, at least that would be my thinking
Here’s a thought for a stop-gap at CF – why not give Jim Edmonds a call? I suspect he can be had for well under $5mil (probably $1-2Mil for the rest of the season), he still has range in the field, and he can probably still hit.
If nothing else, it gives the Braves an option beyond Blanco in CF.
Ha! Knew this was coming. Well, it would be a pretty bad way for things to end, if they did.
They strung him along all these months to go through a rehab and then…
The money could certainly be of better use now.
I think they would give him the 1 mil, but they dont want to give him the rest (roster payments for 30 day 60 etc). Sure he would be someone good to have, esp a lefty. However we dont know what the scouts and docs are saying about his arm. Besides it might help the team in the long run if they had Hanson or Medlen pitch here now.
(btw, its just me. but I’m going to say you polished off more than just a little cabernet in the park.)
I wouldn’t offer Edmunds more than the league minimum, but I agree with you. At the very least, he should replace Norton on the roster. if he doesn’t work out? So what? Cut him and move on to the second option.
Wow…I am shocked. I figured that he’d be gone before the end of the year, but not like this…don’t know what to think. I’m sure this means the beginning of the Tommy Hanson era in Atlanta, but I hate to see Glavine and the Braves part like this, I really do.
It has been a pleasure to watch Glavine pitch in Atlanta all these years, and I wish him the best.
Interested to see what happend w/Glav. Didn’t think he had much left but this seems crappy for Wren to have done – at least on the surface. That said, who was he going to replace? Starting pitching is pretty solid for us these days. Still hate to see it end this way for Glav. Even when he left us to go North, he was still one of my favs.
“Everything ends badly. Otherwise, it wouldn’t end.” If this is it for Glavine, I hope he knows how much Braves fans have appreciated watching him play for all these years.
On another note, has MLB investigated if some Brewers fan has hacked into the online All-Star voting system and is stuffing the ballots? Because there is no logical reason for a Brewer to be either first or second in voting. Rickie Weeks in 2nd place (and out for the year)?! JJ Hardy IN FRONT of Hanley Ramirez?! BILL EFFING HALL IS BEATING CHIPPER?!? And the worst BY FAR….Jason “my mediocre years were 5 years ago” Kendall is SECOND in All-Star voting. Brian McCann is 5th. That is a freakin travesty. If Brian McCann doesn’t start the All-Star game, the fans should lose the right to vote. Period.
I understand the financial reasoning for making this move. It frees up 4.5 million to use toward a bat, but man-o-man do I hate the way this went. I feel so bad for Glavine, to be so close to returning and just like that, your gone.
Bout That Mouf Glavine. Turn about is fair freakin play. Karma sure is a bitch aint it???? Should have never taken that extra money to play for the mets
why put Glavine through all the rehab starts if they are just going to release him? I could understand if he didn’t pitch well or got injured again but all things pointed good, unless there is something we don’t know about. I mean i’m not all that upset if it means Hanson is in Atlanta sooner rather than later but I would have liked Glavine’s career to have ended better, if it is indeed over…
June 3rd, 2009
5:08 pm
I definitely think the Braves are stalling in bringing Glavine back…Bobby Cox stated they have three option to talk over with Glavine…I’m guessing…1. Pitch out the Bullpen 2. Release/Buy him out (not sure they can do that) or 3 Trade Him…
Don’t know how I feel about Glavine coming back…I really don’t
Yesterday you mentioned in the comments section about the Little Mint in Eastern NC. Was the one you were mentioning in Windsor, NC? If so, my dad just bought it recently and renamed it to the Little Golden Skillet after the Golden Skillet chain.
Also, someone asked me about Bunn’s BBQ. I find it to be okay. The best BBQ I’ve had was in Durham at Bullock’s BBQ. I also loved J&L’s BBQ in Kinston.
This sucks, I feel like we have screwed over 2 of the biggest Braves ever with Smoltzie and now Glav. I understand it from a baseball and economic stand point, but the old school fan in me is a little disappointed.
I will say that I tend to take anything I read on Fox Sports with a grain of salt, until it’s confirmed elsewhere. They are almost as bad as CBS Sportsline when it comes to incorrectly reporting baseball news (CBS is laughably bad, IMO).
However, if this news is true, seems a weird time to announce it after last nights win. I mean, you have people who saw that game last night excited and looking to come out to the ballpark, expecting an exciting atmosphere, and you drop this on them?? I’d have at least waited one more day to keep from dampering the mood from the previous game.
Wow. Surprising news on Glavine. It makes sense but the timing is a bit mean. I was never too sure about signing him again in the first place. I know we save on the incentives but didn’t we already pay him $1 million just to sign his contract and rehab?
Well Glavine has been one of the smartest pitchers of his era. Great when it counted too. Sorry to see him go. At 43 coming off surgery I just wonder how much he could have still done. Would like to have found out.
This sucks, I feel like we have screwed over 2 of the biggest Braves ever with Smoltzie and now Glav. I understand it from a baseball and economic stand point, but the old school fan in me is a little disappointed.
Yeah, it’s a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t move. You’ve got a solid core of folks here that are just waiting to bash Frank for going with Glavine over Hanson, and another group waiting to impale him for treating Glav this way (I admit, kinda shabby). And a third group that is probably going to criticize FW no matter what he does. I’m just gonna stick with the “I understand why, but it sucks” line, because that’s just about all you can say right now.
Hate to see that with Glavine. Makes you wonder why they signed him in the first place. Gotta agree that I’d rather see Hanson or Morton in there, but still…
And it’d be real bad if, God forbid, one or two of our starters went down and we traded Morton/Reyes for a bat. We’d look like fools if Glav were elsewhere pitching well.
One more thing with the Glavine news….that means that he and Maddux should go into the Hall at the same time in 5 years. As much as I hoping for success for Smoltz, got to say that if he was unable to pitch in MLB this year it’d be nice to see the 3 of them go into the Hall together (not to mention helping Smoltz’s chances by being on the same ballot as those 2).
I really want to believe Braves scouts convinced Frank that Tommy had nothing left in the tank, and they couldn’t make that decision until they saw him pitch for Gwinnett. I hope that’s it.
A start or 2 could hurt because if Glavine throws even 1 pitch for the Atlanta team this year, they owe him an extra $1 million. Considering how tight their payroll is, and how many of us have been clamoring for them to go get another right-handed bat, an extra $1 million can go a LONG way.
People talk about smoltz getting screw over but dont remember what the Braves said the entire offseason. Smoltz did not want to wait and as much of a smoltz fan I am I’m glad it worked out the way it did. Unfortunate but our pitching is better without him or glavine. Thats baseball samething happend to willie mays and other great stars that did not know when to hang’em up.
I think what you’re seeing with the Glavine release is that right now they’re showcasing Medlen for a trade and then very shortly the Tommy Hanson era will begin. However, having Glavine go through all of his rehab starts was kind of dirty, they should have released him earlier and had Tommy Hanson here the whole time
its KARMA. You all know you hated Tommy “never that good unless i get the call four inches off the plate” glavine when he left for the mets. Treat others how you want to be treated isnt that the golden rule?????
Perhaps Wren decided to pull the plug on glav now, after an excellent rehab start, to be sure someone picked him up and gave him another shot? Thats the only real positive guess i can pull from it.
First, it is unbelievable, after Glavine’s last two rehab starts (he retired the last 12 guys he faced last night, I believe) to not at least give him a start or two. I wonder if Medlen’s last impressive start had something to do with it?
Next, why does Smoltz get a free pass with everything he does, even when he runs his mouth about it, but Glavine gets slammed for doing the same thing? If the stories I have read are correct, Glavine did everything he could to get the Braves to sign him when he first left for NY, when his contract was up, and now this off-season. But Glavine is self-righteous, huh? And Smoltz is a saint? Who never missed a start until last year, when his arm was about to fall off? BTW, who won the biggest game in the history of the Atlanta Braves (Game 6 of 1995 WS)? Just saying.
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Buffalo NY Braves Fan
June 3rd, 2009
4:46 pm
For those in the upstate NY area…..
I believe Tommy Hanson is scheduled to pitch Friday night in Rochester. Could be a fun game as you’ll get to see Schafer play as well.
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
4:49 pm
Can anyone explain Soriano’s hop when he goes to catch a pop up?
Cyndi Lauper's Aura
June 3rd, 2009
4:49 pm
McFann, oddly enough, May 24th is also the date of Smoltz’s 200th win, versus Glavine. It’s also Bob Dylan’s birthday. It’s also my birthday.
Chop Chop
June 3rd, 2009
4:50 pm
By the way, Terry Funk’s finishing move used to be the spinning toe hold. If The Funker gets loose, Chipper better clear the hell out of the park.
cphizzle
June 3rd, 2009
4:51 pm
that is one good thing about not being able to watch the game tonight BJones, i wont watch his annoyin hop or bat waggle…cant see that crap on the radio
Lew
June 3rd, 2009
4:52 pm
I don’t think Lowe should deck anyone after that acting job Yunel put on last night on the ball that hit four inches above his hand. Chip’s suggestion for an Emmy Nomination wasn’t a bad idea. He sold it well.
PWHjort
June 3rd, 2009
4:52 pm
Haha, Chop Chop. Hilarious post.
Cyndi Lauper's Aura
June 3rd, 2009
4:54 pm
“Can anyone explain Soriano’s hop when he goes to catch a pop up?”
Nervous farting.
getmattholliday
June 3rd, 2009
4:55 pm
Someone needs to back Soriano off the plate. he’s way too comfortable.
Nöcho
June 3rd, 2009
4:57 pm
tvsportscaster, kind of agree about Chipper.
Gotta think that Chipper batting left against a lefty, is a better option than Diory.
You’d think they’d at least try it in BP, to see how uncomfortable he is with it. Perhaps they have and it hasn’t been mentioned.
Renegator
June 3rd, 2009
4:59 pm
BJones:
Its my understanding that Soriano does the hop to make the catch “not routine” so he will concentrate on making the catch instead of pulling a Kelly Johnson.
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:04 pm
Renegator,
Understood. Thanks.
McFann :Ô:
June 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
C L’s A–
Hey, that’s pretty cool! Nice B-Day presents! I forgot about that being the day of Smoltz’s 200th win.
BMoney
June 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
Hey guys lay off Chipper. You drag your butt out on to a baseball field for probably well over 30 years and see how you feel. Baseball is not a grinding kind of game, but it is when you do it for 8 months out of the year with only a few days off per month. You might develop some foot problems as well.
flange1
June 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
Chop Chop,
The Braves REALLY need the enforcer AA on OUR side…
Let’s trade them the Assassins (#1 and 2) for AA and Terry Funk.
Vinings Jim
June 3rd, 2009
5:08 pm
Bob – thanks for the link to the article on Mark Lemke. For those who were not listening to the radio (most of you, I’m sure), during the bottom of the 7th, Lemmer and Jim Powell constantly mentioned the no-hitter in an effort to jinx it, and Chipper made it pay off.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 3rd, 2009
5:08 pm
I definitely think the Braves are stalling in bringing Glavine back…Bobby Cox stated they have three option to talk over with Glavine…I’m guessing…1. Pitch out the Bullpen 2. Release/Buy him out (not sure they can do that) or 3 Trade Him…
Don’t know how I feel about Glavine coming back…I really don’t
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 3rd, 2009
5:10 pm
I cant believe no one else has mentioned putting Diaz at first and keeping Anderson in Left field. Too bad Bobby didn’t!!
I would rather see Diaz in CF and keep Anderson in LF. Then you can keep the righty Prado in as well at 1B. Not like your much defensively in CF since Blanco is just average out there.
Macon Braves (RIP)
June 3rd, 2009
5:10 pm
*losing much defensively in CF*
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 3rd, 2009
5:11 pm
MFin04 that’d be the one….your my hero for tonight….
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:11 pm
Paul Weller – loath, disgust and intrigue in one scrawny Englishman is what Mr Weller is…
baseball – yes we beat the unwinnable (is that a word) Cubs
Chicago is a cold, sheety (nice Architecture) sheethole with a very bad sporting team… who cares, a very slow kindy team could beat the Cubbies
On a sad note, I was exercising my Australian right to drink red wine today in Central Park and got arrested for street drinking… I then exercised my “freedom of speech” right to call said arrester a pig.
oh oh, and they were a Mets fan and I wAS wearing my Chipper nos 10 jersey
all in all, My chram got me off the hook, but I lost 80% of a great bottle of Cakebread Cabernet
So the upshot – Bravos about to go on a 8-2 run and then a 40-12 run to make us nos 1 in NL BEASTTTTTTTTTTT
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:12 pm
No way in hell we trade Glav
lol lol lol
TnBrian
June 3rd, 2009
5:15 pm
Padilla used to hit Chipper, didn’t he? Can’t stand that punk!
cvbraves
June 3rd, 2009
5:16 pm
Looking at the replay, Escobar did not fake getting hit by a pitch. He fell backward trying to avoid the ball. On replay, you can see the umpire pointing to first base about the same time Escobar hits the ground. Falling on his back like that shook him up a bit (maybe took his breath). When he got up, what was he supposed to do? Say “no, ump, that ball didn’t hit me.”
I mean how many hitters turn to the umpire and say, “That wasn’t ball four, ump, I’ll take a strike on that pitch. Thanks, anyway.”
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June 3rd, 2009
5:16 pm
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15 outs - TWICE !
June 3rd, 2009
5:17 pm
Lou Pinhead is such a great manager
so much so he would have trouble beating an icecream on a hot day
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:19 pm
What happened to the Cubs fans on this blog
wait
what
“well alrighty then !”
McFann :Ô:
June 3rd, 2009
5:20 pm
WAIT! When the heck did June 11 become a DGANG???
Oh man…Ian Snell might pitch that game! Ian Snell!! If he does, and BMac is kept out due to the DGANG thing, I’m gonna be furious! He didn’t really get to face Ian Snell when they were in Pittsburgh…I mean, he did, but he couldn’t see, so it didn’t really count…
Enough
June 3rd, 2009
5:20 pm
Am I the only one who realizes that the Braves lost the division last year by 20 damn games and had an absolutely dreadful pitching staff in the second half of 2008?
Can we please stop pretending or even entertaining the notion that that dropped pop-up cost the Braves anything more than the lead in the ninth inning of a June regular season game?
McFann :Ô:
June 3rd, 2009
5:22 pm
cvbraves I mean how many hitters turn to the umpire and say, “That wasn’t ball four, ump, I’ll take a strike on that pitch. Thanks, anyway.”
The Long Regional Nightmare Continues
June 3rd, 2009
5:24 pm
Francoeur still has a terrible OBP and OPS. He still sucks and has no business on a major league roster.
But the sad fact is, like others mentioned in the previous thread, that homerun will give him another two weeks of sucking before it is outta Cox’s mind.
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:25 pm
McFann – I truly love you
Shame I am almost married (again) !!!!!!!!
cphizzle
June 3rd, 2009
5:25 pm
i dont think garret thought he deserved to be on first lastnight after he struckout cause it took him a while to run down there but im sure glad he took it anyway
David O'Brien
June 3rd, 2009
5:26 pm
Bobby Cox has been meeting with Frank Wren for an hour, and I’m hearing from a pretty reliable person that it’s about Glavine. Might not be good news for Glavine fans, either. Again, I haven’t confirmed this, but I’m hearing that his return might not be a given. Keep in mind that $1 mill bonus he gets the day he’s added to the roster. I’ll leave it at that, for now.
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:26 pm
Frenchy goes 2-4 with an RBI tonight….
cabravesfan
June 3rd, 2009
5:26 pm
a batter is called out if he refuses to take first base after ball four.
How is that even a rule? Did someone, once back in the day, decide he’d rather try to hit then take his base?
)
(although I do have to give props to Mac for not taking 1st when he got hit on the foot- his run was meaningless, no point to taking the bag
tvsportscaster
June 3rd, 2009
5:27 pm
BMoney, Chipper is also getting a cool 13 million dollars plus a season to play a kids game for that 8 months, while some of us are barely getting by, least the man could do is to actually earn some of that jack by going out there and do what he’s paid to do and that’s play baseball. You think Cal Ripken, Jr was never hurt during that streak, of course he was, he just didn’t sit out when he had the slightest bit of pain. Chipper on the other hand is making this a yearly occurrence.
cabravesfan
June 3rd, 2009
5:27 pm
Interesting news, DOB…thanks!
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:28 pm
Dobi One Knobi – A BIG BIG Eff to anyone , mainly FW, if they do not bring back Glav to start…
My ticker was good until now, but after brain tumors I am not sure I can survive no Tommy G !
BUGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
nolie
June 3rd, 2009
5:28 pm
Yes, that’s my problem with KAWAKAMI. I thought he would be an ace, lights out since he was a star of such long-standing in JAPAN. (Richbrave)
why would you assume that? almost all the Japanese who come over here are the cream of the crop and only a couple have ever had careers here anything like they did there. Most here pegged him as a mid-rotation starter at best.
bravos2249
June 3rd, 2009
5:29 pm
Cyndi Lauper’s Aura
Well said at 4:23
DOB
Wow. That’d be a kick in the balls if the Braves end up trading Glavine after all his work. Would Glavine even play for the other team or retire?
cabravesfan
June 3rd, 2009
5:31 pm
bravos2249-
I doubt we’re talking trade with regards to Glavine…more likely they just won’t put him on the roster and he’ll retire, at least that would be my thinking
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:32 pm
PTI on ESPN is going to have a segment on Yunel Escobar’s “fake” hit by pitch from last night…
15 outs - TWICE !
June 3rd, 2009
5:32 pm
Glavine is a superstar of the brightest kind
He will win this year
Please be playing the “Dude”
ITP Brave
June 3rd, 2009
5:33 pm
Here’s a thought for a stop-gap at CF – why not give Jim Edmonds a call? I suspect he can be had for well under $5mil (probably $1-2Mil for the rest of the season), he still has range in the field, and he can probably still hit.
If nothing else, it gives the Braves an option beyond Blanco in CF.
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:35 pm
Edmonds is a gun like Glav
Old but a gun and a real tryer, not such a crazy idea ITP
Il Cattivo
June 3rd, 2009
5:36 pm
Ha! Knew this was coming. Well, it would be a pretty bad way for things to end, if they did.
They strung him along all these months to go through a rehab and then…
The money could certainly be of better use now.
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:37 pm
Brother Ill Cattivo, can someone tell me how Glav is not worth another $1M at LEAST
Dooley
June 3rd, 2009
5:40 pm
sources say Braves release Glavine
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9642590/Sources:-Braves-release-legendary-P-Glavine
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:40 pm
I have a gut feeling the Lilly throws a pitch at Escobar tonight…
Robby
June 3rd, 2009
5:41 pm
Fox sports is reports that we released glavine guys…
Robby
June 3rd, 2009
5:42 pm
is reporting i mean
Il Cattivo
June 3rd, 2009
5:42 pm
dogs,
I think they would give him the 1 mil, but they dont want to give him the rest (roster payments for 30 day 60 etc). Sure he would be someone good to have, esp a lefty. However we dont know what the scouts and docs are saying about his arm. Besides it might help the team in the long run if they had Hanson or Medlen pitch here now.
(btw, its just me. but I’m going to say you polished off more than just a little cabernet in the park.)
FloridaBrave
June 3rd, 2009
5:42 pm
**ITP Braves,**
I wouldn’t offer Edmunds more than the league minimum, but I agree with you. At the very least, he should replace Norton on the roster. if he doesn’t work out? So what? Cut him and move on to the second option.
Steve from OH
June 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
Wow…I am shocked. I figured that he’d be gone before the end of the year, but not like this…don’t know what to think. I’m sure this means the beginning of the Tommy Hanson era in Atlanta, but I hate to see Glavine and the Braves part like this, I really do.
It has been a pleasure to watch Glavine pitch in Atlanta all these years, and I wish him the best.
CorkylikesBeer
June 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
Wow…that is dirty..about glavine..just read the report…
Mitchie-san
June 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
Bye Glavine! WOW!
Keep Glavine, Dump Francoeur
June 3rd, 2009
5:44 pm
Unless the Braves need that money to get a bat (and I doubt it), they’re showing their cheap side again.
Ricardo
June 3rd, 2009
5:44 pm
Interested to see what happend w/Glav. Didn’t think he had much left but this seems crappy for Wren to have done – at least on the surface. That said, who was he going to replace? Starting pitching is pretty solid for us these days. Still hate to see it end this way for Glav. Even when he left us to go North, he was still one of my favs.
Wes
June 3rd, 2009
5:45 pm
Ken Rosenthall is already reporting that Glavine has been released. I understand it, but the business of baseball sucks sometimes.
D-rock
June 3rd, 2009
5:45 pm
wow, well if it’s true, that’s a pretty shabby way to treat a hall of fame pitcher.
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:45 pm
Why would we do this to a superstar unless Liberty and JS pissant are involved
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:45 pm
Frank Wren must go…
FaninFaytown
June 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
it would completely shock me if tommy glavine is not given a shot. wont agree or disagre either way but i would be incredibly shocked.
Steve from OH
June 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
I understand it, but the business of baseball sucks sometimes.
Doesn’t it?
RC
June 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
“Everything ends badly. Otherwise, it wouldn’t end.” If this is it for Glavine, I hope he knows how much Braves fans have appreciated watching him play for all these years.
On another note, has MLB investigated if some Brewers fan has hacked into the online All-Star voting system and is stuffing the ballots? Because there is no logical reason for a Brewer to be either first or second in voting. Rickie Weeks in 2nd place (and out for the year)?! JJ Hardy IN FRONT of Hanley Ramirez?! BILL EFFING HALL IS BEATING CHIPPER?!? And the worst BY FAR….Jason “my mediocre years were 5 years ago” Kendall is SECOND in All-Star voting. Brian McCann is 5th. That is a freakin travesty. If Brian McCann doesn’t start the All-Star game, the fans should lose the right to vote. Period.
Robby
June 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
I understand the financial reasoning for making this move. It frees up 4.5 million to use toward a bat, but man-o-man do I hate the way this went. I feel so bad for Glavine, to be so close to returning and just like that, your gone.
McFann :Ô:
June 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
dogsbrekky–
Wow, um…
…thank you.
cabravesfan–
I’m pretty darn sure I read it in my rule book. I’m trying to find it (I’m gonna feel pretty stupid if it’s not there!)
although I do have to give props to Mac for not taking 1st when he got hit on the foot- his run was meaningless, no point to taking the bag
Yeah! Heck, the ump didn’t tell him to got to first. Might as well stay in there.
boutTHATmouf
June 3rd, 2009
5:47 pm
Bout That Mouf Glavine. Turn about is fair freakin play. Karma sure is a bitch aint it???? Should have never taken that extra money to play for the mets
Nova Scotia Steve
June 3rd, 2009
5:48 pm
BRAVES RELEASE TOM GLAVINE…Fox Sports Reporting!!!!
Ritchie from Scotland
June 3rd, 2009
5:48 pm
why put Glavine through all the rehab starts if they are just going to release him? I could understand if he didn’t pitch well or got injured again but all things pointed good, unless there is something we don’t know about. I mean i’m not all that upset if it means Hanson is in Atlanta sooner rather than later but I would have liked Glavine’s career to have ended better, if it is indeed over…
Bye Glavine?
June 3rd, 2009
5:48 pm
Fox5 reporting that the Braves have cut Tom Glavine.
Nova Scotia Steve
June 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
I have to say…I called this one…
Nova Scotia Steve
June 3rd, 2009
5:08 pm
I definitely think the Braves are stalling in bringing Glavine back…Bobby Cox stated they have three option to talk over with Glavine…I’m guessing…1. Pitch out the Bullpen 2. Release/Buy him out (not sure they can do that) or 3 Trade Him…
Don’t know how I feel about Glavine coming back…I really don’t
DurhamBrave
June 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
DOB,
Yesterday you mentioned in the comments section about the Little Mint in Eastern NC. Was the one you were mentioning in Windsor, NC? If so, my dad just bought it recently and renamed it to the Little Golden Skillet after the Golden Skillet chain.
Also, someone asked me about Bunn’s BBQ. I find it to be okay. The best BBQ I’ve had was in Durham at Bullock’s BBQ. I also loved J&L’s BBQ in Kinston.
knowitall
June 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
Ha! Escobar’s flop from last night made PTI.
Pennski
June 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
This sucks, I feel like we have screwed over 2 of the biggest Braves ever with Smoltzie and now Glav. I understand it from a baseball and economic stand point, but the old school fan in me is a little disappointed.
So does that mean it’s Hanson time??
Threadkiller
June 3rd, 2009
5:50 pm
It’s too bad..But on the brite side, Washington is only a short plane ride away!!
cabravesfan
June 3rd, 2009
5:50 pm
McFann-
I was not doubting you! (I would never do that!) I just can’t believe someone thought that should be an actual rule
BJones
June 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
I guess Glavine’s release means the beginning of the Tommy Hanson era in Atlanta?
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
Glavine does not help this team…that million can go toward a peice at the deadline.
nolie
June 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
Blanco just isn’t all that great and b. OBP just ain’t all that, either. (LEW)
team OBP has a higher correlation to runs scored that any stat other that OPS. Way better indicator that homers, steals or anything else.
RC
June 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
I will say that I tend to take anything I read on Fox Sports with a grain of salt, until it’s confirmed elsewhere. They are almost as bad as CBS Sportsline when it comes to incorrectly reporting baseball news (CBS is laughably bad, IMO).
However, if this news is true, seems a weird time to announce it after last nights win. I mean, you have people who saw that game last night excited and looking to come out to the ballpark, expecting an exciting atmosphere, and you drop this on them?? I’d have at least waited one more day to keep from dampering the mood from the previous game.
boutTHATmouf
June 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
They def screwd over smoltz but glavine had it comming self rightous pompas greedy union man
Interested Observer
June 3rd, 2009
5:52 pm
Wow. Surprising news on Glavine. It makes sense but the timing is a bit mean. I was never too sure about signing him again in the first place. I know we save on the incentives but didn’t we already pay him $1 million just to sign his contract and rehab?
brent a.
June 3rd, 2009
5:52 pm
I think that’s great that the Braves didn’t cave and give Tommy the $1 million appearance fee.
However, let’s see where he winds up, and how much that may end up hurting us. St. Louis, Philadelphia, Anders’ team?
benchwarmer
June 3rd, 2009
5:52 pm
Well Glavine has been one of the smartest pitchers of his era. Great when it counted too. Sorry to see him go. At 43 coming off surgery I just wonder how much he could have still done. Would like to have found out.
dogsbrekky
June 3rd, 2009
5:52 pm
I kind of feel that a part of my Braves soul just died
Sad days..
“Oh well”………… next Tom pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
Steve from OH
June 3rd, 2009
5:53 pm
This sucks, I feel like we have screwed over 2 of the biggest Braves ever with Smoltzie and now Glav. I understand it from a baseball and economic stand point, but the old school fan in me is a little disappointed.
Yeah, it’s a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t move. You’ve got a solid core of folks here that are just waiting to bash Frank for going with Glavine over Hanson, and another group waiting to impale him for treating Glav this way (I admit, kinda shabby). And a third group that is probably going to criticize FW no matter what he does. I’m just gonna stick with the “I understand why, but it sucks” line, because that’s just about all you can say right now.
nolie
June 3rd, 2009
5:53 pm
A guy who gets on base but has little speed and no extra-base power may be more valuable than a guy who can only run like the windn (Piedmont)
he’s not much of a base stealer but he has very good speed.
Vinings Jim
June 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
If true, why did they go through the whole charade – after 11 scoreless innings how could a start or two hurt if Medlen is in the bullpen ready to go?
DirtyYuni
June 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
Hate to see that with Glavine. Makes you wonder why they signed him in the first place. Gotta agree that I’d rather see Hanson or Morton in there, but still…
And it’d be real bad if, God forbid, one or two of our starters went down and we traded Morton/Reyes for a bat. We’d look like fools if Glav were elsewhere pitching well.
RC
June 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
One more thing with the Glavine news….that means that he and Maddux should go into the Hall at the same time in 5 years. As much as I hoping for success for Smoltz, got to say that if he was unable to pitch in MLB this year it’d be nice to see the 3 of them go into the Hall together (not to mention helping Smoltz’s chances by being on the same ballot as those 2).
rammerjammer
June 3rd, 2009
5:55 pm
I really want to believe Braves scouts convinced Frank that Tommy had nothing left in the tank, and they couldn’t make that decision until they saw him pitch for Gwinnett. I hope that’s it.
RC
June 3rd, 2009
5:56 pm
Vinings Jim,
A start or 2 could hurt because if Glavine throws even 1 pitch for the Atlanta team this year, they owe him an extra $1 million. Considering how tight their payroll is, and how many of us have been clamoring for them to go get another right-handed bat, an extra $1 million can go a LONG way.
McFann :Ô:
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
Oh my gosh. It’s eating my posts again…
TBF(n)K as Billy
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
People talk about smoltz getting screw over but dont remember what the Braves said the entire offseason. Smoltz did not want to wait and as much of a smoltz fan I am I’m glad it worked out the way it did. Unfortunate but our pitching is better without him or glavine. Thats baseball samething happend to willie mays and other great stars that did not know when to hang’em up.
tvsportscaster
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
I think what you’re seeing with the Glavine release is that right now they’re showcasing Medlen for a trade and then very shortly the Tommy Hanson era will begin. However, having Glavine go through all of his rehab starts was kind of dirty, they should have released him earlier and had Tommy Hanson here the whole time
boutTHATmouf
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
its KARMA. You all know you hated Tommy “never that good unless i get the call four inches off the plate” glavine when he left for the mets. Treat others how you want to be treated isnt that the golden rule?????
FaninFaytown
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
Perhaps Wren decided to pull the plug on glav now, after an excellent rehab start, to be sure someone picked him up and gave him another shot? Thats the only real positive guess i can pull from it.
wjones
June 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
First, it is unbelievable, after Glavine’s last two rehab starts (he retired the last 12 guys he faced last night, I believe) to not at least give him a start or two. I wonder if Medlen’s last impressive start had something to do with it?
Next, why does Smoltz get a free pass with everything he does, even when he runs his mouth about it, but Glavine gets slammed for doing the same thing? If the stories I have read are correct, Glavine did everything he could to get the Braves to sign him when he first left for NY, when his contract was up, and now this off-season. But Glavine is self-righteous, huh? And Smoltz is a saint? Who never missed a start until last year, when his arm was about to fall off? BTW, who won the biggest game in the history of the Atlanta Braves (Game 6 of 1995 WS)? Just saying.