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c jonze
June 1st, 2009
1:48 pm
Not sure what all the trade Vasquez comments are about. It doesn’t seem this team has a great 4th or 5th pitcher, let alone a 3rd in-the-rotation-type to replace him. If pitching is the “organizational depth” of this team, why only two pitchers with reliable outings, one with solid outings, and no one else who is more than a roll-of-the-dice? One good game every now and then, followed by at least two bad ones? Is the “Depth” being kept in Gwinett as a smokescreen, to increase the perceived value as a prospect, rather than a known commodity?
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
1:50 pm
Let’s just say I’m “bearish,” not “bullish,” on Glavine…
Efrim
June 1st, 2009
1:51 pm
“I think your boys are done. They just don’t look ready yet to beat a veteran deep team like the Wings.They needed perfect goaltending and some breaks and so far haven’t gotten either.”
Anders, I think they are done too. But let’s understand that the Wings are the best team in the NHL. I am confident the Pens would beat any other team in the NHL in a seven game series.
Steve from OH, I disagree about the Wings goals. I thought the first two goals in game one were lucky bounces off the boards.
FaninFaytown
June 1st, 2009
1:51 pm
Jeff R,
Agreed that there is no sure thing in there. I am going to count on Glavine hopefully being decent enough in the 4 or 5 spot to win games. He looked pretty good in the Spring before he was hurt again, and has shown time and time again that he can still pitch at 83 mph.
For Kawakami, his 8 inning gem I think shows he definately has promise. He can get hitters out for sure. And really he hasnt pitched THAT bad in most of his starts. Personally I feel like Between Glavine, KK, Medlen, Morton, and Hanson and even JoJo if we need to try that road again, that we can fill those two spots.
Once again I would still much rather keep Javy and trade KK for a bat but I’m just not sure what else we will have to give up. Thats my take.
njbraves
June 1st, 2009
1:51 pm
Willy Wally…I think we both agree that KK is not very good. What I’m saying is you cannot put a guy like that in the closer’s role. He doesn’t strike out enough batters and walks too many. I don’t like his contract any more than you do, but I’m not sure there’s much they can do about that at this point. Closer, however, is not the role you will ever see him in.
FaninFaytown
June 1st, 2009
1:53 pm
3 spots I meant obviously
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
1:55 pm
Whoa…what happened? The comments at the tops of the pages are differ’nt then they used to be…
DunwoodyBrave
June 1st, 2009
1:55 pm
Hey Dave:
How come the AJC never runs the box scores–or player stats–of the Gwinnett Braves? After seeing Hansen gave up 4-5 runs last night, I wanted to see how many were earned vs. the result of errors by his teammates. Never in the AJC, so had to root around the G Braves’ web site to find it (answer: 1 earned run, so ERA is still at 1.49%)
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
1:56 pm
Pens are a great, young team. Red Wings are a tough veteran team that belongs in a league of their own. But the Red Wings are a little older… not necessarily as much upside as the Pens.
I think the Pens have a chance to be as dominate in the coming years as the Red Wings are now.
Efrim
June 1st, 2009
1:57 pm
“The Wings have the advantage to run out 4 lines while the Pens are relying on more like 2 1/2.”
Yup. They don’t have 6 wingers. More like 4 that are decent. And I am not so sure Chris Kunitz, Tyler Kennedy and Ruslan Fedotenko strike fear into anyone. People act like the Pens have so many weapons. They don’t. It’s Malkin and Crosby. Staal has little offensive game at this point in his career.
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
1:59 pm
Lsing Hossa was a definite blow to the Pens.
Burdell
June 1st, 2009
2:03 pm
“…where does it put the rotation minus Vasquez(sic)? ”
If the Braves want a big bat next off season (more than a few million dollar “professional hitter”), either they need an increase in team salary (have you seen the stadium?) or they need to dump either Vazquez or Hudson in the off-season.
If Wren has already decided that he’s going to try to move Vazquez or buyout Hudson, wouldn’t it make sense to listen to what’s offered by other teams during the season? If you can get a better return now than you will in the off-season (where you risk not moving him at all and having to buyout Hudson with no return), why not move him? This is especially true if you’re happy with Hanson’s development.
Billy Walsh
June 1st, 2009
2:04 pm
Anders,
How annoying is Boomer and Carton in the morning? Carton has to be one of the worst Met fans.
flange1
June 1st, 2009
2:07 pm
Anders,
Agreed on Frenchy to Billy Bean!
Not trying to suggest trades, but figure out what Holliday is worth….using Braves players as currency.
I am not sue if BB wouldn’t jump on Frenchy or any other player he could get for below market value though. I thought that was the real concept of Money Ball, find value where other’s don’t.
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:10 pm
BREAKING NEWS!! Latest voting results show that Brian McCann has moved past Russell Martin and into 4th place among catchers!
VOTE McCANN 2009 ALL-STAR!!!!
FloridaBrave
June 1st, 2009
2:11 pm
I think everyone pretty much agrees that the Braves cannot make the playoffs with their current offense.
But the Braves won’t be able to adequately address other areas of weakness if they have $12 million tied up to Hudson, $15 million tied up to Lowe, $11.5 million tied up to Vazquez, and $8 million tied up to Kawakami. One of them needs to get traded but Lowe’s pretty expensive, Hudson’s coming off Tommy John surgery, and Kawakami is still an unknown. Vazquez’s trade value is also at it’s highest right now since he’s having one of the best years of his career. Combine this with the plethora of young pitching the Braves have in Tommy Hanson, Kris Medlen, Charlie Morton, and Jo-Jo Reyes; and it makes too much sense to trade Javier Vazquez.
Sure the Braves could keep Vazquez until the off-season and trade one of the younger arms(We know Hanson’s untouchable, but assuming the others can be had) for a rental bat. But, firstly, Vazquez has more value now as to help teams down the stretch and into the playoffs. Secondly, the Braves are not in a position to trade any more prospects for a rented bat. The Braves have what most teams covet- a surplus of young pitching. Trading it off for a bat for a half-season or a season and a half would have dangerous ramifications for the franchise- especially if they didn’t reach their goal of making the playoffs.
Obviously, if Wren can get some cheaper, more versatile bats like DeRosa and/or Branyan without giving up the young pitching, that is what I think everyone prefers.
But if not- and I doubt we can- I think it makes much more sense to trade Vazquez for a bat rather than our young pitching.
Chop Chop
June 1st, 2009
2:11 pm
No thanks, McFann.
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:12 pm
Whoops.
Forgot the link.
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:12 pm
Chop Chop–
Burdell
June 1st, 2009
2:14 pm
“I thought that was the real concept of Money Ball, find value where other’s don’t.”
What Beane does is review the peripherals of a player and look at what the market is over/under valuing. He then builds a cheap team getting the best ROI on undervalued talents.
The problem is, I can’t find any peripherals on Francoeur that would appeal to Beane.
Anders
June 1st, 2009
2:15 pm
Billy Walsh – Carton is an idiot who’s trying to make his bones on Boomers back. I’m surprised at what boomer allows to happen and be said on that show. Carton drags him into the gutter. Boomer is a real solid guy. He has lots of national exposure with the NFL and does this radio gig among about three other TV show’s he personally has. One of the hardest working guys around. But he’s also a real regualr fan. Sits in the stands with the regulars and wears his heart on his sleave.
He gives a lot back to the LI community too. He’s certainly living the dream.
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:17 pm
So in one week, McCann received 188,585 votes! Nice…just gotta keep it up!
VOTE McCANN 2009 ALL-STAR!!!!
Anders
June 1st, 2009
2:17 pm
McFann- I’m starting a campaign to get Omar Santos from the Mets to the mid-season classic! He’s an up and comer. Plus he has 20/20 vision!
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:22 pm
Anders–
Hmm…good luck with that. What, you think just ’cause he has a triple he’s gonna beat out my mann?
Plus he has 20/20 vision!
Ha! Mac does now…kind of…
bruce
June 1st, 2009
2:25 pm
McFann -
Golden Sombrero per Wiki is take-off on hat trick in hockey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_sombrero
and a quick review of the baseball terminology on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Baseball_terminology
did not yield a term for four walks in a game so maybe after consulting David to ask if he has heard of a term, you could be free to come up with one and use Brian’s name…and maybe David will use this forum to establish the term. That would be pretty cool. Might need to distinquish somehow intentional walks vs not obviously intentional walks too. Good luck with coming up with ideas
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:26 pm
You know, I would just as soon have all of the Braves players rest up during the All-star break. Kind of like having your players attend spring training instead of playing in the WBC… but different
bruce
June 1st, 2009
2:26 pm
oops… sorry for being bold
TnBrian
June 1st, 2009
2:27 pm
You watch, if the Braves do get Derosa and Frenchy is still woth the team, Bobby will still play Frenchy every game. That’s why I want a big bat like Holliday that will either force Atl. to trade or release JF or for Bobby to use him once in a blue moon. Cox probably still sees Derosa as nothing more than a bench player like he was last time he played here.
Chop Chop
June 1st, 2009
2:27 pm
Here’s a view of the Atlanta Braves starting rotation possibilities for this season:
Lowe: Turns 36 today. Happy Birthday, D-Lowe. Under contract for three more seasons at $15 million per.
Vazquez: Turns 33 in July. Under contract for one more season at $11.5 million.
Jurrjens: Young, cheap, and good.
Kawakami: Turns 34 in late June. Under contract for two more seasons at about $6.7 million per.
Medlen: Young and cheap. Don’t know about the good yet. In my opinion, Medlen is trade bait. There’s no way that the Braves see him as a pitcher with greater upside than Tommy Hanson.
Okay. Now that we have that out of the way, let’s look at the rotation contenders:
Glavine: Old. Future Hall of Famer. Under contract through this season ($1 million plus incentives). He’s scheduled to make one more minor league start. If the start is successful, he bumps Medlen out of the rotation because he’s getting paid more.
Hanson: A better (and younger) starting pitching prospect than Medlen, Hanson’s stuff is too good not to give him a shot in the rotation this season.
Morton: Turns 26 in September. Has really good stuff. Prime trade bait if you’re Frank Wren. Absolutely has to be.
Hudson: Turns 34 in July. Coming off of Tommy John surgery, Huddy may be ready in August. Does he go into the bullpen? Does he replace Glavine/Hanson/Medlen? $12 million option for 2010.
Jo-Jo: Don’t make me laugh. It will take lots of guys blowing up for him to get another shot. Nevertheless, he might be the type of guy another team might be able to get more use out of as a starter.
Okay. So I have Medlen, Morton and Jo-Jo as trade bait. Of course, if the Braves are under .500 and 8-10 games back in early-to-mid July, Vazquez shoots to the top of the list. Wren won’t be able to trade Hudson because of Huddy’s timetable.
BT
June 1st, 2009
2:27 pm
Since my memory is dull today, does anyone remember who was in RF last year for the short time Frenchy was sent down? What was our record?
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:28 pm
First person I ever heard refer to four strike-outs in a game as the Golden Sombrero was Don Sutton when he became a Braves’ broadcaster on TBS….
Chop Chop
June 1st, 2009
2:29 pm
And I know I basically said what hundreds of other posts have said, but I wanted to piece some of that together. It was an exercise borne out of boredom.
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:29 pm
And I am afraid Barry Bonds might have the market cornered on intentional walks in a game….
TnBrian
June 1st, 2009
2:30 pm
Anders, Omar Santos…JEEEZ, does that GM over there do everything in his power to completely load that team with hispanics? Los Labos Mets.
Anders
June 1st, 2009
2:31 pm
Hey Mcfann- You know Santos has the same number of RBI (18) as your boy McCann in 27 less at bats?
He’s not nearly as good a hitter but he’s been clutch. Plus the starters love to pitch to him. They’ve really tightened up simce he’s arrived. That’s why the Mets traded castro to the White Sox last week. Plus Manuel didn’t like Castro’s work ethis – or lack thereof apparently.
N8
June 1st, 2009
2:32 pm
“Are you familiar with “slumps”. Frenchie has had a few good months. Hart has had a couple of bad months. But somehow you have the gall to think my reasoning is flawed.” II Cattivo
LOL! Wow. OK. Here we go.
Since 2006, Corey Hart has the following numbers:
437 games played, 1534 AB’s, 426 hits (.277), 56 HR, 224 RBI, 99 BB’s, 315 K’s, 55 SB’s to go with a robust .477 career slugging percentage, and an .800 OPS.
Since Francoeur played in all of 2006 (Hart played in only 83 games), I only used Francoeur 2nd half stats (the lesser of the two halves mind you), here’s what we’ve got goin’ on:
In 439 games, Jeff has 1715 AB’s, 452 hits (.263), 45 HR, 239 RBI, 101 BB’s, 329 K’s, 7 SB’s, to go with his .427 slugging percentage, and .735 OPS.
Jeff is 25 years old. Hart is 27.
So, to answer your question. YES I have in fact heard of slumps. But neither of these guys are suffering from such a thing.
They’re BOTH just not very good baseball players. Merely “league average” at best. Hart’s manager just lets him run more. Regardless of whether you think those numbers are good or not, they are essentially THE SAME GUY!
So if you want to give up BOTH Frenchy AND Vazquez (or any other pitching) for Hart, perhaps you’ve been wearing YOUR sunglasses not only at night, but while judging who’s a good player and a good fit for the Braves.
Anders
June 1st, 2009
2:37 pm
TnBrian -You have heard of Brian Schneider -yes? Personally I think the latino market is where his strengths are so he relies on it. Kind of like the Braves do in Cobb county et al.
bruce
June 1st, 2009
2:38 pm
Gil in Mechanicsville -
So four intentional walks could be called…. Barried or Bonded… or Gold Bond or Gold Bonded Spikes
For four unintentional walks I bet McFann can find come up with a good one to honor Brian. With his new specs, he is earning the distinction.
N8
June 1st, 2009
2:39 pm
Oh, and Jeff has won a GG, too. (50 OF assists since 2006 for Jeff – 15 for Hart).
Must not forget about defense when dissecting a players worth, right?
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:39 pm
Gregor Blanco started the two games in which Francouer didn’t start. Frency played right field in 152 of 154 games in 2008
TnBrian
June 1st, 2009
2:40 pm
Anders, I realize there are whites on your team, just being sarcastic. Just more hispanics and I think it’s fair to say Minaya loves his kind on that his team.
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:41 pm
Those four walks were called… pitching around the one guy who we think can hit a home run for these clowns… let’s see if he’ll chase…
Gil In Mechanicsville
June 1st, 2009
2:43 pm
Uh… guys… let’s not play the race card today. it really gets old after a while…
Shane
June 1st, 2009
2:46 pm
Who’s Omar Santos?
Random
June 1st, 2009
2:48 pm
McFann :Ô: (June 1st, 2009 1:55 pm): “Whoa…what happened? The comments at the tops of the pages are differ’nt then they used to be…”
A couple of earlier comments got deleted, and the remainder shifted upt to maintain 100 per page.
It happens sometimes.
cphizzle
June 1st, 2009
2:51 pm
derosa sounds a whole lot like frenchy. you wait and see we get rid of francouer we will be trying to get him back just like dero. just let francouer go and get himself some real coaching somewheres else
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
2:51 pm
If the Braves ar scudding along at .500, or below, nearer the trade deadline, then Vasquez would fetch a nice return. I can accept that.
But if Kawakami is still way subpar, Wren needs to think of a way of dumping his salary. He’s paid too much to be a middle inning reliever. The Braves could always explore the possibility of sending Kawakami back to his Japanese team and eating some of the cost.
Shane
June 1st, 2009
2:51 pm
Omir Santos Career HR 3 Career OBP .283
Brian McCann Career HR 75 Career OBP .362
And your comparing the two?
David O'Brien
June 1st, 2009
2:54 pm
Astonishing Stat of the Day: Jeff Francoeur hit a home run on May 1, and Garret Anderson hit one on May 31. Can you guess how many homers were hit by Braves outfielders between those dates?
Zero.
The Braves had two outfield homers in the entire month, one apiece on the first and last days of the month.
MFin04
June 1st, 2009
2:55 pm
“Hey Mcfann- You know Santos has the same number of RBI (18) as your boy McCann in 27 less at bats?”
As we all know Omir Santos is as good as Brian McCann…let’s look at one number (a near meaningless one when determining ability) and compare Santos and McCann.
Not sure what the purpose of that comparison is?
And McCann isn’t making the All-Star team by fan vote, so there is no reason to vote. He will make the team because he is the best hitting catcher in the National League and his defense has grown by leaps and bounds.
MFin04
June 1st, 2009
2:57 pm
LOL, DOB that is funny. One at the beginning of the month and one at the end. That’s crazy! Suppose we need a power hitting outfielder? Just a thought?
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
2:57 pm
Bruce–
Thanks for the links! I’ll be thinking of something…for the pitcher who walked the guy 4 times, you could say he was “Canned”…
OK, sorry, bad one…I’ll keep trying.
Anders–
Ugh…yes. I know about the whole RBI thing. McCann hasn’t gotten a hit with RISP in about a week. And he’s had his chances. Omir is also only one double behind McCann, but don’t even get me started on that…
Starters love to pitch to BMac, too. Hey, how is Santos at throwing guys out? I mean, I cann look at his percentage on Baseball-Reference.com, but…you can’t tell a lot about a catcher by that, cann you?
Random–
Ah. Didn’t realize there had been anything profane on this particular Blog (we’ve been having trouble with that on past Blogs lately), but I was gone most of yesterday.
DWW
June 1st, 2009
2:58 pm
Has anyone else noticed how Roger McDowell never looks the pitcher in the eyes when he goes out for a visit. He always stares at the ground or into the outfield. I’ve been noticing this for a while, but during yesterdays game it made me laugh when he went out to talk to Medlen in the 6th and Roger was looking to the outfield while he was talking and it looked like Medlen spun around to see what he was looking at. Anyway I just never liked people who wont look you in the eye when they talk to you, and I’m sure it doesnt instill alot of confidence in the pitcher he is talking to. Our pitching staff is doing great this year so i’m not complaining, it just makes me not like the guy.
Lew
June 1st, 2009
3:08 pm
Trading Vazquez before the off season for a bat would be roughly similar to cutting off your left hand to buy a prosthetic device for your right.
Cameron
June 1st, 2009
3:08 pm
DWW:
Just about every pitching coach does that. The only reason why Head coaches don’t do it is because they look the guy in the eye and ask for the ball.
Shane
June 1st, 2009
3:09 pm
DOB .. Is that a record for futility for a Braves OF. I cant imagine any braves OF and I mean as far back as Murphy and Claudell hitting 2 HR’s in a month
N8
June 1st, 2009
3:09 pm
Well hey. Corey Hart had 2 HR in the month of May.
I guess he would be an improvement, huh? Who woulda knew?
Eric
June 1st, 2009
3:10 pm
DOB, tell me about Vazquez’s limited no trade clause. What does that mean?
BT
June 1st, 2009
3:12 pm
DOB your blog about the HR’s from the outfield just told us why the Braves are four games out. Amazing that we aren’t even in worse shape.
the real Andy
June 1st, 2009
3:12 pm
four walks in a game = the Quadruped?
N8
June 1st, 2009
3:13 pm
I agree Lew.
Only two scenarios make sense in doing so.
1) We’re out of it, and Wren thinks he gets more for Vazquez mid-season than the off-season, letting desperate teams bid against each other.
2) We’re able to get a MONSTER young player that could man a position for years to come at a reasonable rate, and Wren/Bobby feel that Hanson is ready (as in, if Hanson would be up now and pitch lights out until July 31), thus lessening the “need” for Vazquez, if the offense is still struggling.
Unfortunately, at 4 games out on June 1st, this could get ugly real fast if things don’t start looking up.
Noah
June 1st, 2009
3:13 pm
think we both agree that KK is not very good. What I’m saying is you cannot put a guy like that in the closer’s role. He doesn’t strike out enough batters and walks too many
I don’t know if he’d be a good closer but… Seattle had a great closer from Japan for several years and as far as strikeouts – KK is actually 2nd on the team in strikeouts. But I’d rather see if he can extend a bit and stay as a starter, his ERA so far at 4.73 is ok for a #4 guy. A lot of teams get that or worse out of their #3
cabravesfan
June 1st, 2009
3:14 pm
Eric-
Not DOB but I hope I can answer your question regarding Vazquez’s no trade clause…as far as I understand it, the clause blocks trade only to the NL and AL West- anything else is fair game
DWW
June 1st, 2009
3:16 pm
Cameron
I’ve been watching baseball a long time and I dont ever remember a coach who tried that hard not to look at someones eyes. Its a personallity trait, i’ve known people like this and its just hard to trust them for some reason.
Steve from OH
June 1st, 2009
3:17 pm
Efrim, I was talking about the goals in game 2. In game 1, I completely agree that the first two goals were pretty lucky. Pens only scored one though, and if you only score one against the Wings you’re probably gonna lose…
The Wings are old, but they’ve got some very good young talent on the way in Helm, Leino, Abdelkader and Ericsson. Each of those guys spent nearly the entire season in “AAA” Grand Rapid. Look for them to help out the older guys next season. Not to mention Filppula and Hudler are pretty young.
Lew
June 1st, 2009
3:18 pm
Nathan-It could get ugly, but the chances of finding that bat this early are less than good. If KJ keeps hitting, Anderson plays like he should and Yunel just stays healthy, I think we’ll be OK in the interim. I’d feel a lot better if we could string a few more offensive displays like yesterday’s, though.
Noah
June 1st, 2009
3:20 pm
If KJ keeps hitting, Anderson plays like he should and Yunel just stays healthy, I think we’ll be OK in the interim
How many games have Chipper, Yunel and McCann missed combined. I bet its a high number.
McFann :Ô:
June 1st, 2009
3:23 pm
MFin04 And McCann isn’t making the All-Star team by fan vote, so there is no reason to vote.
Wrong attitude, dude! There’s still time, get out and vote! But if the fans don’t vote him in, the players and coaches sure as heck better.
VOTE McCANN 2009 ALL-STAR!!!!
the real Andy
June 1st, 2009
3:25 pm
four walks in a game = the gold watch?
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
3:27 pm
The talk about acquiring DeRosa is interesting. Could it be that by acquiring DeRosa, Wren is considering making another move?
MFin04
June 1st, 2009
3:30 pm
McFann – I’ll go vote another 25 times for you. But what exactly is our goal here? For him to be the top vote getter among NL Catchers? How far is he behind?
ElonBrave
June 1st, 2009
3:30 pm
Jeff R., that’s a really good point and it’s really the only way the move would make sense to me. Bye bye Kelly?
the real Andy
June 1st, 2009
3:30 pm
four walks in a game = the eagle eye?
Steve from OH
June 1st, 2009
3:32 pm
four walks in a game = the eagle eye?
The Billy Beane.
Steve from OH
June 1st, 2009
3:33 pm
Or the Shaun Payne.
Boiler
June 1st, 2009
3:34 pm
Didn’t Diaz play for Frenchy yesterday. The Braves scored nine runs…so lets leave him there!!!!!!!!!!!
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
June 1st, 2009
3:35 pm
N8,
Your second scenario is largely what I imagined the Braves would consider if they were making Vazquez available. I don’t think a deal is likely, but he may be the easiest guy to move if you want to get a proven hitter in return.
As you know, I’m not as confident as Lew that the current lineup can consistently score enough runs to get past the Phils and the Mets. Chipper and GA are going to miss their share of games, and McCann (by necessity) will have to have some days off. There’s just not that much depth in the current configuration to make up for their absences.
Besides, despite our best efforts, Bobby will eventually put Francoeur back in there again!
Chop Chop
June 1st, 2009
3:36 pm
Four walks in a game?
The Youk.
TcD
June 1st, 2009
3:37 pm
DOB – Wanting to purchase my first Lu CD..which one do you recommend??? Follow (and mostly enjoy) the blog all day – originally from Shelby NC – Red Bridges BarBQue – relocated to McDonough. Great blog – great writer / reporter – and gotta love the Bravos good or bad.
Chop Chop
June 1st, 2009
3:39 pm
Seems worthy of a Greek god of walks, right?
timthebrave
June 1st, 2009
3:39 pm
On trading any of the pitchers I think you need to take a wait and see approach to see what Hudson will look like when he comes back. If you trade Vasquez you will get less value now than closer to all star break when you can have several teams going after him. Don’t trade prospects for a rent a player. and…..Go Braves!
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
3:40 pm
ElonBrave… The same thought occurred to me. Johnson has good trade value. But, might it mean that Frenchy is going and Johnson moves to the OF? Just a pure guess.
flange1
June 1st, 2009
3:43 pm
TcD,
DOB turned me on to Lu as well! Try Car Wheels on a Gravel Road as your first Lu album. It is one of the best albums to come out in years.
RHR
June 1st, 2009
3:44 pm
Still no word on the secret Frenchy trade that was going to be announced today? Maybe Frank is tired from all that shopping and is waiting for the 5:00 news.
Willy Wally
June 1st, 2009
3:44 pm
Anders, you’re about the only guy who thinks Boomer is any good as an announcer. The guy stinks. He’s boring, and his opinions are usually not that good. He’s hard working. No doubt about that. Gotta respect that. But the guy brings absolutely nothing to his daily talk show or to any game broadcast or pre-game show he does. Nothing at all, well except for all of those forced fake chuckles he does on the CBS pre-game shows at noon every Sunday. He’s blonde, and has always kissed the right arse with the media and the white collar higher ups who make the decisions. However, I’ve never heard anyone say gotta turn on the television or radio because Boomer is gonna be on the air, and I never will. If Boomer’s broadcasting career ended tomorrow, not a soul in the world would notice or lament the loss.
TcD
June 1st, 2009
3:46 pm
Thanks flange1 – will do!
Roman Gal
June 1st, 2009
3:50 pm
wiki did not yield a term for four walks in a game so maybe after consulting David to ask if he has heard of a term bruce
David Wright doesn’t have to hear about a term, he decides the the terms and then they are written.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
June 1st, 2009
3:50 pm
TcD,
flange1 is right. Car Wheels is easily my favorite Lucinda CD. Great stuff.
the real Andy
June 1st, 2009
3:51 pm
four walks in a game – the double octopus?
MFin04
June 1st, 2009
3:51 pm
The Catcher voting is bogus:
Yadier 3/17 .273/.351
Kendall 0/15 .207/.299
Pudge 5/22 .264/.305
McCann 5/18 .318/.422 (McCann is slugging 70 points higher than anyone else)
Martin 0/20 .272/.385
McCann has played 10 less games than all of them.
Willy Wally
June 1st, 2009
3:51 pm
Chop Chop, did you hear about that kid Adam Young who hit three homers in a T-Ball game the other day? Gotta love his upside & results. I think I’d take him over that Andrew Milosevic kid up there in Little League, who threw a 2 hitter the other day while only striking out 3. His arm action and K rates scare me away from him. Plus, he tends to leave the ball up and not induce enough grounders. But, you know me, when given the choice in who I take, gimme the T-Baller everyday over the Little Leaguer. I like upside.
Steve from OH
June 1st, 2009
3:54 pm
Willy Wally–gimme the coach pitch slugger. I like the results at a higher level with the added benefit of upside. T-ballers are just too raw for me.
Thrillhouse44
June 1st, 2009
3:54 pm
Great. More talk of moving KJ to the OF. Why not just suggest we trade for Carl Crawford while we’re at it?
Cameron
June 1st, 2009
3:55 pm
I don’t think we would acquire DeRosa in an effort to turn around and make another move. Maybe.
I think our interest in DeRosa is two-fold. We need someone to supply the versatility that Infante brought to our team. DeRosa offers that versatility, while offering more power to our lineup. Next, we can’t afford any of the so-called “big bats” so we need to get someone we can afford, i.e. DeRosa. Will he make our lineup that much better? Probably not that much better. But, he will offer protection if we suffer an injury, especially the inevitable Chipper nick or ding. Everyone who observes that we are inconsistent should realize that our streaks of winning have happened when everyone is healthy. And, our streaks of losing have happened when we were missing McCann/Anderson, Escobar, or Chipper. The way our lineup is currently constructed we cannot weather an injury to enough of our impact bats: McCann, Chipper, Anderson, or Escobar. If Frenchy ever gets going, he could be put into that category.
Roman Gal
June 1st, 2009
3:55 pm
VOTE McCANN 2009 ALL-STAR!!!!
I wish I could. But, my desktop doesn’t like mlb.com so I can’t look at gameday or vote the all-star game. Don’t worry though, I still vote when I go to the games…
the real Andy
June 1st, 2009
3:56 pm
thrillhouse – maybe the rays will give us crawford for jo-jo. we could throw in thorman
Willy Wally
June 1st, 2009
3:57 pm
I don’t know Steve. Ya gotta see this Young kid in a T-Ball game sometime. It’s not just power he’s got. The kid doesn’t just swing at any ball you see on a tee. He only swings at balls set on a tee in his own personal hitting zone. For a T-Baller, this Young kid has got mad pitch recogition ability.
CB
June 1st, 2009
3:59 pm
I heard they traded two minor leaguers for 10 Albert Pujols bats- they will give these bats to Frenchy and his career will turn around. At least, until the bats break.
Jeff R
June 1st, 2009
4:00 pm
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ncscoots
June 1st, 2009
4:01 pm
But, you know me, when given the choice in who I take, gimme the T-Baller everyday over the Little Leaguer. I like upside.
Yeah, but isn’t your nephew a T-Baller? Might be showing a little bias there, LOL.
Just never know how a kid is REALLY going to hit until he sees some more advanced pitching at Little League. T-Ball phenoms can turn into Little League busts, you know. No guarantees in the developmental leagues.