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Ozzie

May 31st, 2009
11:47 am

We have no one in AAA hitting the cover off the ball. Diory H (subbing for Omar) was hitting for a good avg in AAA when he was called up.

The Barbaro (sp?) dude also seems like a hitter but he has no glove at all.

If the Braves had major or even pretty solid OF offensive talent in AAA – GA, JF and perhaps even Schafer would not be out there ever night.

We have buckets of pitching in the high minors but no difference makers on the offensive end.

Right now your break glass in case of emergency AAA OF and or offensive upgrade options are Blanco and Barton. Not much of an upgrade.

Gorkys is hitting well in AA but word is he won’t be rushed and likely is trade bait.

Maybe part of Furman’s article about the farm being light on talent is actually true. :)

Gorkys, Heyward and Freeman are your good to potentially great position players. Everyone else is a ? though Cody Johnson’s HRs are drawing attention as our his massive SO numbers.

If the Braves become sellers at the deadline they should look to stock up on AA/AAA offensive talent b/c their farm needs an infusion of this type – badly.

Lew

May 31st, 2009
11:51 am

Dogs-DOB and I don’t always see eye to eye on musical matters. He’s turned me on to some great tunes-DBT, Kings of Leon and even a much greater appreciation of the Esteemed Johnny Cash. He is much more country than I am and I’m a bit more into the heavier forms of rock than he is. It’s all cool.

Just never have been an huge U2 afficionado. I liked the one song they played on the “Nuclear” cd, so I went out an bought it. I’ve listed to it maybe four times since then. I just doesn’t do it for me.

Braves73

May 31st, 2009
11:52 am

Lew – The horse got drunk (off your logic) and suffered a heart attack.

Here’s your previous post about “facts”

Fact-Chipper has a minor injury that could turn major if he plays on it. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-This has happened in the past. (GREY AREA)

Fact-When Chipper is out of the lineup we tend to lose games. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-If we mitigate Chipper’s aches and pains he’ll play more-hence we’ll win more. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-Catchers need time off due to the rigors of catching. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-Managers (besides Bobby, too) routinely give their starting catcher a day off after a night game. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-Mac played a night game Friday and we had a day game Saturday. (FACT)

Fact-David Ross, Mac’s replacement, went 2-3 with a walk subbigh for Mac (FACT)

Fact-You have no clue. (SOMETIMES FACT)

Congrates, you got two right!

Doc Holiday

May 31st, 2009
11:52 am

Its hard to understand why the withesox went out to back up catcher Ramon Castro from the mets if they already had corky miller…………that just doesnt make sense….. :-)

bravesgirlnc

May 31st, 2009
11:52 am

Canizares is hitting well in AAA and would be exactly the kind of player we should give a shot. His defense is suspect, but can he really be worse than Loaf? really? We need a bat. Give the big Cuban a shot! (I know he plays 1b and I could not find anything that shows if he has played anywhere else)

Jim

May 31st, 2009
11:53 am

Johnny Bench’s career went downhill very quickly once he reached the age of 32. With the likes of Perez, Morgan, Griffey, Rose,etc. in the lineup, the Reds could have afforded him a regular day off more frequently.

Braves Paisan

May 31st, 2009
11:55 am

Donning the Tools of Ignorance should require mandatory psychological counsiling.

FaninFaytown

May 31st, 2009
11:56 am

Richbrave, I totally agree with you about Morton. I think a lot of people have maybe written him off. When he was here he showed he had some good stuff and I think for him confidence is the key. I hope that if he ends up being one of the pitchers to go (and we all know some will likely be traded) that he gets a shot to improve his trade value first.

Lew

May 31st, 2009
11:56 am

Braves73-If you truly believe your 11:52 rebuttal of my “Facts”, then you really are clueless. Converse with yourself. I have many much better things to do.

Jim

May 31st, 2009
11:58 am

If we were to select the worst Major League regular at each position, would the outfield be RF: Francouer, CF: Schafer, LF: Anderson? Can anyone find anyone worse at any of these positions?

Ozzie

May 31st, 2009
11:59 am

If Barbaro C can hit and play say 1B/RF :) demote Norton or DL him and give the BC a shot.

Norton is awful as PH and he never plays the field so why is he chewing up salary and roster space?

Braves73

May 31st, 2009
12:01 pm

Lew – “I have many much better things to do”
Dude, you need to make good use of Word, it helps the grammatically challenged to sound somewhat educated. Now, go fill out that lineup card and email it to Bobby.

dogsbrekky

May 31st, 2009
12:01 pm

Lew – I wasn’t agreeing or disagreeing re the music… I hate a lot of stuff that is hot right now, but respect that other people like what they like…

I definitely rate bands on their live efforts as I grew up watching the likes of Cold Chisel, Oils, INXS, Diesel, LRB and the like in pubs with 800 other crazies

Unknown

May 31st, 2009
12:02 pm

Guys, get use to it. This team is going nowhere this year. They will most likely finish with the same record as last year. I don’t even know why I keep getting upset game after game when I know the outcome. The good news is, we WILL be good in a couple years and more than likely be set up to get back to the WS on a regular basis. Until then, we we are just gonna have to rough it out and hope Wren doesn’t do anything stupid when it comes to trades.

Jerald Holcombe

May 31st, 2009
12:05 pm

For Christ’s sake, some of you dumbasses need to shut the eff up and get a life. All I could see yesterday was a few guys being bashed left and right for comments made that really shouldn’t have been made. But damn, the comments were made and maybe now you know where some stand. Let it go. This is the United States of America you dimwitted sh!ts. We have the right to free speech the last time I checked, don’t we? So, if you agree with those comments, great. If you don’t, that’s great too. Stop trying to get people banned from this blog because your wittle feeling got hurt, or you are just trying to impress others with your high moral values.

TBF(n)K as Billy

May 31st, 2009
12:08 pm

Was at the game yesterday and it was disappointing. Francour after he struck out with JS on 2nd looked really fustrated and down. I tell ya his bat speed does look slow after watching him hit against the flamethrower from the Dbacks. Going today and hoping for better results.

Lew

May 31st, 2009
12:09 pm

Braves73-1-2-3 PULL. Real hard. Your head is lodged very tightly in your small intestine.

buzzmeat

May 31st, 2009
12:12 pm

How long does Mark DeRosa have left on his contract? I see on MLB tradrerumors that Indians want “Major league ready” pitching for him. Just wondering, I know its too early in the season

Jerald Holcombe

May 31st, 2009
12:12 pm

Jim, the fact is that in Johnny Bench’s day, catchers didn’t take many days off. The shorter careers are just a hazard of the position, same as outfielders that played their careers on astroturf. Look at starting pitchers in decades past. Getting taking out of games, for the most part, just didn’t happen. They were in for the long haul.

bravos2249

May 31st, 2009
12:22 pm

DOB

I saw the Mets do that lst week I think, with Beltran. And either last year or a couple of years back I saw it against us @ home. I also think it worked, and we lost. I think it was either the Mets or Blue Jays.

Does anyone not figure maybe Morton is a trading piece, cause why would he still be in Triple A, when:

1) He’s already on the roster
2) He’s got MLB experience
3) He’s pitching lights out

buzzmeat

May 31st, 2009
12:28 pm

Bravos2249

Morton is probably our best trade piece IMO, that or Francouer (doubtfull)

Lew

May 31st, 2009
12:28 pm

Denizens should read the Sally Forth comic in today’s Sunday Funnies. It’s appropriate.

David O'Brien

May 31st, 2009
12:32 pm

Bravos2249: As I mentioned, Charlie was listed on the lineup card here in Arizona, so the Braves considered bringing him up to start today, but decided to give Medlen another start. Sure, they could be considering trade offers for him. Or maybe they didn’t want Morton to go a week between starts (he would have been bumped from his Friday minor league start to come up here, on two extra days’ rest), make one start here, then possibly have to go back to the minors to make room for Glavine.

BT

May 31st, 2009
12:35 pm

Lew, it was depressingly appropriate!

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
12:36 pm

A catcher playing the outfield on an “off” day is not an off day. Lew is right. You play your catcher 150-160 games and you have a catcher for about 3/4 of the season. When push time comes (hopefully) he is out of gas. Proven fact. That’s why EVERY club does it.

Braves Fan in N.Y.

May 31st, 2009
12:38 pm

I agree with Ozzie–give Canizares a shot.
Dude is hitting .335 with 8 homers and 31 RBI.
Let him pinch hit and give him a few starts at 1B. Norton stinks.
Trouble is, organization is convinced Canizares is too much a liabilty on defense. Down the road we’ll hear over and over again that Cody Johnson strikes out too much. Hey, there’s only one Albert Pujols. There just isn’t that many complete players. Cox gets it stuck in his head that this player can’t do this or that and it stays with the player throughout his entire time in the organization. Of course, Bobby has his favorites, too. Remember Keith Lockhart–played him over Giles when Giles was just getting good.

NCBravesFan

May 31st, 2009
12:43 pm

Jerald: you are right about the free speech thing, but it doesn’t mean that saying something doesn’t have repercussions. This site belongs to the AJC and they can do whatever they want.

If you’re gonna show how classless and clueless you are on a public forum that isn’t yours, don’t be surprised if someone shows you the door.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
12:44 pm

“This is the United States of America you dimwitted sh!ts. We have the right to free speech the last time I checked, don’t we?”
So far, but that is changing swiftly.

brian

May 31st, 2009
12:46 pm

Ozzie – as far as Cody’s strike out totals. Yes they are high but he is also hitting .275. His home runs are no fluke. I saw him play about 10 days ago and he not only got on base a couple times, but also hit a monster home run that had to have gone 430-450 feet. That man has more power than our entire major league team combined. OK, that does not say much, but Cody can turn on a pitch and give it a long ride. I just wish I got there early enough to see Cody take BP. I bet he can put on a show

bravesgirlnc

May 31st, 2009
12:46 pm

BravesfanNY and Ozzie.

Yes! That is all I am saying. Who do we have in the minors that could do some good with the big club. I am not sure sending Norton away is the best option, but we gotta do something to shake things up. Bobby’s favorite line-up is NOT working.

brian

May 31st, 2009
12:47 pm

Cody, Heyward, and Freeman are all a couple of years out though. They are unlikely to hit the majors before 2011. Gorkys hopefully will be ready next year.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
12:47 pm

Bench played 150 plus 4 times in 17 years, FWIW.

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
12:47 pm

Thirsty Horse

Hey, where ya been? For a while there, I thought I’d scared you off for good! ;)

BMac at first…oy…No offense to my mann, but that would prob’ly be a defensive downgrade from Kotchman. Ha, well, at this point, anybody else at first is a defensive downgrade from Kotchman.

McCann cann throw them out at second–and third. Unfortunately, the umpires don’t think so.

Roman Gal

You were swimming in dangerous waters last night! That disclaimer may have saved your life! :P

Of course I know how starters for the all-star game are selected. It’s a rigorous elimination process voted on by only the smartest baseball minds today. It’s completely unbiased and the best players always start. That’s how it works.

:lol: That was a joke, right? I hope so, ’cause it made me laugh…

MFin04

May 31st, 2009
12:50 pm

DOB – Did you find it odd that Bobby/Bennett didn’t walk Byrnes to set up the double play yesterday? Did you ask him about that?

MrC

May 31st, 2009
12:52 pm

Simple trade. Medlin or Morton straight up for DeRosa. Would you do it?

brian

May 31st, 2009
12:55 pm

DOB – agree 100% with the U2 comments. If we could just forget about POP and start things up again in 2000-2001 when they resurfaced – top notch

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
12:55 pm

Um…While it’s most likely true that the Braves did not lose because McCann had the day off, let me point out one thing that’s being overlooked, probably because everyone has a crush on Ross’ defense:

David’s PB kind of lead to the tying run. There was one out, a dude on second, and the ball got away. The next guy singled, so the guy on third scored to tie the game. The next guy lined-out, and the last guy grounded out. And I’m not sure that that line-out was deep enough to score the run if that dude would have gotten on third from the single.

That may make no sense, but I just thought I’d point it out…Ross did go 2-3 with a walk and a run scored…

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
12:55 pm

Jamie Moyer is shooting for win # 250 at the age of 114. Out of curiosity, how many HOF votes do you think he gets.

TnBrian

May 31st, 2009
12:56 pm

Speaking of TP, can you imagine if maybe half of the other teams in baseball had their hitters hitting as inconsistant as ours have the last few years? Man, TP would’ve been fired already, but the loyalty thing…

Jay212033

May 31st, 2009
1:07 pm

I have an awesome proposal!

Rays get:
Jeff Francoeur – RF
Mike Gonzalez – CP
Martin Prado – 2B

Braves get:
Ben Zobrist – Super Utility
Desmond Jennings – CF(AA)

buzzmeat

May 31st, 2009
1:11 pm

Jay212033

lay off the drugs ok?

Prattvillenolzfan

May 31st, 2009
1:11 pm

Didn’t realize that my responding to N8’s post last night about opening acts would set off a semi-backlash of response………….

I do tend to agree with Lew about U2’s later stuff. I’ve alway’s been a believer in underground, non-top 40 music. That’s one of the main reasons I like DOB’s blog, myself, like so many others have found alot of musicians we would not have found on top 40…(in fact, my ex absolutely adores Lucinda Williams…she now has just about everything she has put out….)

Back to Lew’s comment, I feel that their best album was Unforgettable Fire, but to me, I feel that they sold out to top 40 standards after Achtung Baby….

I know everyone has a different style, I still love their old stuff, but they just don’t have the same edge (no pun towards their guitarist!!!) they once did….just a matter of opinion.

Gotta go to work….

Lew, quit arguing with Braves 73, it’s pointless

buzzmeat

May 31st, 2009
1:12 pm

morton for derosa sounds possible, but might need to give up one more if Cleveland is gonna bite

Fred

May 31st, 2009
1:13 pm

Mr. C, I absolutely would not make that trade. Frankly, I’m not quite sure why people are in favor of the Braves trading for DeRosa. While he is better than Shafer and Francouer, DeRosa is not a power hitter (nor is he a centerfielder). It’s painfully obvious that the Braves need a power upgrade in the outfield and acquiring DeRo won’t solve that problem.

ozzie

May 31st, 2009
1:14 pm

I like Cody and his power. SO need to come down b/c few guys in the bigs can get away with the SO numbers he is offering up.

I think he will be someone to watch to be sure.

Rays need cheap pen arms (late inning) and perhaps a ML ready starter (also cheap). Their GM is going with Zobrist and Aybar as the 2B book marks for now.

I say make a play for Crawford if they will listen and Crawford would entertain extension talks.

Jay212033

May 31st, 2009
1:17 pm

buzzmeat

Seriously what value do you really think you’ll get for Francoeur? Also Gonzo is gone after the season and Prado is nothing more than a utility player. Do you even know anything Desmond Jennings?

Braves Paisan

May 31st, 2009
1:19 pm

No pitchers with potential for journeymen!

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
1:26 pm

Fact-Chipper has a minor injury that could turn major if he plays on it. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT).

Chipper Jones has a sprained toe. This is bad. If Chipper were to continue to play hard on it, he might completely tear the ligament in his toe. This would be extremely bad. Lew is correct, you are not.

Fact-Catchers need time off due to the rigors of catching. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Fact-Managers (besides Bobby, too) routinely give their starting catcher a day off after a night game. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

Nope, these are pretty much facts too.

And if you think we’ll win the same amount of games without Chipper than with Chipper, well, I’m not really sure what else to say.

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
1:26 pm

OK, I’m bored. Why is it that the one Sunday that the Braves play a 4 o’clock game is the same one that we have to leave around three to go to a party where we’ll prob’ly only know about half the people? Dangit…I so wish the Braves were on at ONE! Or 1:30…

Frank from KS

May 31st, 2009
1:28 pm

For anyone else that’s interested (including DOB)

A gentleman who works for the Chicago Tribune(sp)….was on this morning’s edition of Sports Center and he said the White Sox are interested in acquiring the Stro’s Roy Oswalt.

At least ya can say….Kenny Williams isn’t giving up easily after Peavy said no.

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
1:29 pm

Guys, Cody Johnson is hitting .276/.353/.641 in one of the most extreme pitcher’s parks in the minors. He can strike out all he wants if he’s gonna continue to post those numbers. I’d like him to reduce the strikeouts, sure, but right now those really are very good numbers, and excellent power numbers, especially after the season he posted last year. He keeps that up throughout the whole season and carries it into Myrtle Beach, I think he’ll be a well-regarded prospect.

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
1:33 pm

Fact-Catchers need time off due to the rigors of catching. (STATEMENT, NOT A FACT)

How is that not a fact? You put a guy out there to catch every single day and you’re gonna be in big trouble come June…

LOL! Who said that’s not a fact?

buzzmeat

May 31st, 2009
1:33 pm

Francouer can get value if combined with the right player, But the Braves are not trading Gonzalez. and Prado is the only backup we have worth a crap (besides David Ross but he is only 1 position).

MFin04

May 31st, 2009
1:34 pm

McFann – skip the party, watch the game. ;)

Tomahawkin

May 31st, 2009
1:38 pm

Pathetic Road Trip….! Nuff Said!

I said it before Plain and Simple excluding D-Ross, this has been a display of Uninspired baseball over the entire roadtrip

I know this trip isn’t over but they seem like they are just trying to get to the next off day. I don’t boo when I go to games but I Would if I was at the game tonight. It’s one thing to get shut down by great pitching but it’s another to don’t care about getting Punk’d by the Jubroni teams of the league

It seems like we love to lay down against the Garbage teams of the league

And they Wonder Why people would rather go to see the Gwinnett Braves more!!!!

dogsbrekky

May 31st, 2009
1:39 pm

TP and the bashers – not sure whether I disagree 100% but
let’s look at the case of Andruw, he refused to listen to TP and Chipper etc and declined and then ended up under the care of one Joe Torre and the gr8 Don Mattingly and also stunk it up

eventually he lands in Texas and stinks until something goes off in that pee sized brain and he decides to listen, this time to Rudy J

Now we have pee brained Froggy who doesnt listen, ends up with Rudy J in the offseason, opens his stance and loses power but starts making regular contact, low Ks, a few BB etc……… that lasts all of one month in MLB and then because he has a pee brain he goes back to his losing methods…

In neither case can we blame TP…

On the +ve side for TP, we have 2 of the best hitters in baseball Chip and McCann……. who have been great under TP… Kotchie seems to have improved etc etc

Efrim

May 31st, 2009
1:40 pm

Think there is a chance that the Braves do a Morton for Derosa swap? I’m pretty sure they value Morton quite a bit, but I can’t imagine the Indians parting with Dero unless they get at least pitcher that is close to contributing.

Frank from KS

May 31st, 2009
1:42 pm

Fred re: your 1:13 pm

DeRosa not a power-hitter?

He hit a career high 21 HR’s and had a career high in RBI’s (87) for the Cubs last season. He’s got 8 HR’s so far this season for Cleveland.

After the Braves let him go after the 04 season and he signed and played for the Rangers in 05….he hit a career high (at that time) 13 HR’s.

He’s got 75 career HR’s to boot.

So yeah…DeRosa’s not a power-hitter…*rolls eyes*.

Efrim

May 31st, 2009
1:42 pm

Draft stuff:

“North Carolina right-hander Alex White lasted just 4 2/3 innings Saturday versus Coastal Carolina, giving up five earned runs on four hits and four walks. He needed 104 pitches to get those 14 outs, only 55 of which were strikes. White’s stock has taken quite the hit the last month of the season, but he’s still a first-round talent who should remain a Top 15 or 20 selection.”

I really hope we don’t take him. Just screams “Mike Pelfrey lite”.

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
1:43 pm

Do we really want DeRosa that bad? I can’t see him making that big of an impact…

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
1:46 pm

Dog, periods are your friend.

Chipper and McCann have been good under every hitting coach since little league.

bigcooterb

May 31st, 2009
1:46 pm

A little late, but the thing I like best about Vazquez is that he knows how to bunt. Unlike all the other pitchers on the staff.

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
1:47 pm

MFin04

I wish I could! ;)

Fred

May 31st, 2009
1:48 pm

Frank from KS, You were right to roll your eyes regarding my previous post. I made an uninformed comment about DeRosa, I didn’t realize he has hit so many home runs. I guess I was just thinking back to when DeRo was with the Braves. That being said, I’m still not sure if I would favor trading Morton or Medlen for him. Is he a FA at the end of this season? After the Tex and J.D. Drew trades, I’m not big on giving up good talent for a rental player.

Jay212033

May 31st, 2009
1:49 pm

Steve from OH

I think a couple years back they moved the fences in some. There have been a few guys lately that have come through there and hit well(with power) recently. Kaaihue, Campbell, Hicks, heck basically the entire MB team last year but when they move up to Miss. they seem to lose all their power. Look at Campbell this year he hit 19 HRs last year and he just hit his 1st this season in Miss. It can’t be the “AA pitching” because it mostly the same guys he faced last season in High A. So until I see Johnson hit and hit with power in AA i’ll remain netural on him but it’s still impressive what he’s doing.

bravos2249

May 31st, 2009
1:49 pm

DOB

I know. I didn’t want to seem like one of those who doesn’t look up their stuff. lol. I was just responding to the folks who are questioning why Morton wasn’t called up. I honestly don’t see why it would have been bad for them to call him up instead of Medlen. Sure Medlen was pitching better, but Charlie was already on the roster. Putting Medlen on the roster didn’t create any problems since two players got hurt, but unlike Hansen, the Braves really don’t have a reason to keep Charlie in the minors, expect to build up his stats for trade possibilities.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
1:49 pm

Steve, depends on what we give up. Any improvement is good.

N8

May 31st, 2009
1:50 pm

DOB, as much as I don’t like to interject myself into YOUR musical conversations about taste, and what not, I have to stick up for Lew here a bit.

Lew said:

“Dogs-Yeah, you’re right-U2 was really good back then. Under A Blood Red Sky-great album. Since Bono found he was related to God? Not so much.”

To which you assumed that EVERYTHING after “Blood Red Sky” was being lumped into that category. Correct me if I’m wrong Lew, but I’ll assume that your not lumping Joshua Tree into this category. IMO, Bono hadn’t got on his high horse yet, when that album was released.

For the record, I agree DOB, Joshua Tree is great. Easily in top 10-15 releases in any genre in the past 25 years. As for the rest of U2’s stuff? I usually really enjoy 3-4 tracks on any of their releases, but have to agree with Lew, Bono’s political nonsense (not saying I disagree with – or agree with his stances), rubs me the wrong way.

I want my “rockstars” to be rockstars. Not politicians. I can even put up with their songs beiing political in nature. But when I see Bono on Fox News, and CNN more than I see clips of him performing….

Anyhow. I just think you misinterpreted Lew’s comment a tad, DOB. I’f I’m wrong, I apologize for butting in.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
1:51 pm

The kid from Texas ended up throwing 169 pitches yesterday. I think pitch counts are way overdone, but 169? Wow.

Frank from KS

May 31st, 2009
1:51 pm

Steve

It sure as hell can’t hurt to have his bat and playing ability on the team. I can’t see why the Cubs dealt him in the first place after the numbers I just posted.

Billy Walsh

May 31st, 2009
1:53 pm

To be considered a power hitter you probably have to average at least 30 homers for at least 3 years. Derosa is not a powerhitter. He is not an outfielder. Where would the braves put him? I cant see the braves moving Kelly back in the outfield at this point in the season.

BT

May 31st, 2009
1:54 pm

bigcooterb it is not just the other pitchers that have trouble bunting. Our “regular” players have had trouble bunting for the last three years. Actually with out knowing the stats they may have been slightly better this year.

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
1:56 pm

DeRosa’s a good hitter, but he’s not great. We could package Morton and get a better player, I think. A real outfielder. I would still like to pony up and get Brad Hawpe, myself, but like you guys said, any improvement is good improvement. Personally, I’d like to get a guy under contract so we can have a bit of stability in the outfield instead of the revolving door we’ve been seeing.

David O'Brien

May 31st, 2009
1:56 pm

Regular lineup today with one notable exception: DIAZ in RIGHT FIELD in place of Francoeur

dogsbrekky

May 31st, 2009
1:57 pm

N8 – re Bono – if you read the audit report/s on his “Africa charity” it shows a really disturbing tale of hypocrisy on behalf of the lead singer of U2, I agree let rockers sing and then stfu unless they really put their kahunas on the line, re Peter Garrett who is now a Senator and NOT a ROCKER

Billy Walsh

May 31st, 2009
1:58 pm

I would love to see Hawpe in the braves outfield. Hes under control until 2012 and his contract is reasonable. I wonder if the rockies would have any interest in Francoeur? Maybe the thin air could give him a shot in the arm.

Frank from KS

May 31st, 2009
1:58 pm

Fred

As I said before….if the Braves end up giving Cleveland some prospects, etc to get DeRosa (if a trade for DeRosa happens) or whatever trade happens….there will be guys come through that will be as good if not better than what the Braves had.

I’m not sure if he’s a FA at the end of the season or not.

We all gotta take the good with the bad.

woogidy

May 31st, 2009
1:59 pm

Keeping him out for a trade? maybe? Please? Dear God?

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
2:00 pm

That said, if we’re in contention, I wouldn’t mind seeing a deal for Holliday. He’d give us a huge boost, and having 3 first-rounders instead of one looks pretty nice, too.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
2:00 pm

Carl Pavano leads the Yanks 3-0 in the 5th, trying to go 6-1. Carl Pavano? Can that possibly be true?

McFann :Ô:

May 31st, 2009
2:02 pm

Dangit, DOB! You tryin’ to rub it in even more? I mean, we’re gonna DVR the game, but really…

Chop Chop

May 31st, 2009
2:02 pm

I don’t want any guy that’s going to give us first rounders. I won’t be able to stand your giddiness, Steve.

cs95

May 31st, 2009
2:02 pm

DOB,

is it too much to hope that this is NOT just a day off for francoeur, and that a trade is being made?

Il Cattivo

May 31st, 2009
2:03 pm

wonder if the rockies would have any interest in Francoeur? Maybe the thin air could give him a shot in the arm.

On the other hand, he might swing for the fences every at bat hoping for a HR.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 31st, 2009
2:04 pm

I like Diaz in there, even against RHers.

bravos2249

May 31st, 2009
2:04 pm

SoWeGa Fanatic

And he was the closer, right?

Free Tommy Hanson

May 31st, 2009
2:05 pm

Thank you Jesus. Finally Failcoeur gets benched. Well we all know it’s probably just a day off, but at least it gives me hope that he may finally be shown the door in the future.

Chop Chop

May 31st, 2009
2:05 pm

I would rather our minor league system be barren and bereft of talent than have you, Steve, tell us about how wonderful the kids are down in Rome and Myrtle Beach.

(This completely serious and sober comment also goes for PWH and Efrim.)

David O'Brien

May 31st, 2009
2:06 pm

N8, I don’t really care about your thoughts on U2’s politics. Nothing personal, but I just don’t care that you are turned off by Bono’s politics. Sounds like something you wrestle with and that doesn’t allow you to enjoy the music. Do you also watch movies and think about this actor’s liberal views or that actor’s conservative views? (Because there have been actors who’ve been quite outspoken on both sides, not just the left.) If so, why? Why do you give a rat’s behind?

I care not about any musicians’ or actors’ politics, in terms of how it affects what I think about their work. Seriously, I just don’t have a problem with it. I listen to the music, and couldn’t care less if they’re actual people who have political beliefs (like most of us have political beliefs, whatever they are) and that they have a forum in which they choose to use to express them. Have never understood why anyone objects to musicians — rock stars, country stars, whoever — expressing their believes, be they religious, liberal, conservative, whatever.

You want Bono and other rock stars to be “Rock Stars” to sing and dance around and entertain you. They don’t care. They’re going to be human beings and say what’s on their minds. And whether you buy or enjoy their product, they obviously have decided is not important to them. Integrity, to them, presumably is. And being honest with themselves. Not being your performer paid to entertain and them shut up.

Efrim

May 31st, 2009
2:06 pm

Steve from OH, he isn’t THAT great. I agree. That said, we aren’t close to even average in the outfield. So if we get an average bat to go there, that should help. I’m not as big a Morton fan as many here, but I’m not sure I would pull the trigger on a deal like that. I just saw the Indians want a major league ready starting pitching back.

Jerald Holcombe

May 31st, 2009
2:07 pm

Dogsbrekky, do you even pay attention to what’s going on? Chipper and McCan don’t get instruction from Pendleton. They get it from their dads, especially Chipper. And where did you get info that TP has been helping Kotchman? That would be news to me. Fact is, Pendleton has not helped anyone on this team, and it is a glaring admission when some of your players go to their dads, other hitting coaches, or other players for much needed help.

PWHjort

May 31st, 2009
2:07 pm

I love Diaz in right

dogsbrekky

May 31st, 2009
2:08 pm

SoWeGA – I loved it when Pavano was here in NY

They nicknamed him “American Idle”, cracked me up

but the guy has some talent when healthy

Frank from KS

May 31st, 2009
2:08 pm

Well..ya know Billy, Chipper wasn’t *quote on quote* an outfielder either….but he did play left for a while.

So while DeRosa is not *quote on quote* an outfielder….I bet he could definately play the OF if need be.

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
2:09 pm

Efrim, like I said, any improvement is good, but I think we can package Morton with some prospects or JoJo and get a better deal. I’d like to see a longer-term fix brought in that just a one-year rental, unless we are both deep in contention and sure that that guy will be a Type A or B (that one’s for you, Chop Chop).

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

May 31st, 2009
2:09 pm

SoWeGa Fanatic,

I don’t like Diaz in CF against anybody. Especially if he’s flanked by GA and Francouer. Any ball getting past the infield is not only a potential hit, it’s a potential triple.

Chop Chop

May 31st, 2009
2:12 pm

I want a future Type F free agent. I want a guy so bad that we have to give every other team in baseball a first round pick because we are foisting his rotting carcass of a joke of a ballplayer onto the open market.

Kevin McGlinchy

May 31st, 2009
2:12 pm

Frenchy on the pine? Excellent. DOB, any whispers about a trip to Gwinnett in The Chosen One’s near future?

Frankie Knuckles

May 31st, 2009
2:12 pm

Could it be a trade for Frenchy has been agreed upon and management is sitting him as a condition of said trade. I impatiently await tomorrows MLB news.

Steve from OH

May 31st, 2009
2:13 pm

Chop Chop–you mean Francoeur?

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