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Shoeless Joe
May 29th, 2009
11:34 pm
Rob (from SC)
We’ve got a surplus of good young (and established) pitchers, an overwhelming need for a right handed outfield power bat. No payroll flexibility, and no trade value for our current outfielders. The solution seems pretty obvious…
Roja
May 29th, 2009
11:36 pm
Not only 4 innings to go, we still have to survive the Bullpen! Bennett scares me even if we still had a 10-1 lead.
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:36 pm
keylargo-
actually that’s a good point
Although I don’t actually have to leave for a while- it’s only a 6 hout drive (and I do have family in Phoenix…hmmm)
Paul Lentz
May 29th, 2009
11:36 pm
I’ve seen the ‘True Romance’ movie that some of you have been discussing. One of the best scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie happens in this movie. In the scene, Christopher Walken plays a mafia boss who is trying to get Dennis Hopper to tell him where his son is. Dennis Hopper denies knowing where he is.
Then Hopper starts his “SIcilians were spawned by Ni___rs” speech. The first time I heard that, I went “OMG”, lol. That scene was something else.
If any of you guys havent seen it, you can do a search on youtube. It’s an incredible scene.
Those of you who have seen that scene, what did you think of it?
Jurrjens4NLCY
May 29th, 2009
11:37 pm
Lol I love the David Ross story
McFann :Ô:
May 29th, 2009
11:37 pm
Tom O’Hawke–
Yeah, I know I should ignore them…and I try to…but sometimes it’s hard. Sometimes I feel like, if I don’t say anything, they’ll think I’m agreeing with them…which obviously I’m not.
That’s so cool about the eaglets! They’re so cute!
Tom O'Hawke
May 29th, 2009
11:38 pm
Obviously I am not DOB …..”—-cabravesfan
Well, thank God for that! I’d hate to think all my fantasies were about DOB (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I can go as far as picturing you in that leather jacket, but that’s it! (no offense Dave)
Getting back to BB, if JJ walks a batter or two, or hits one, we’re all saying, “let him hit it!”.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:38 pm
Shoeless Joe
In my opinion, you just can’t trade Hanson. He is our future ace! Next I would keep Morton. He has better “stuff” than Medlen and he pitched hurt in the majors last year so I understand his struggles.
N8
May 29th, 2009
11:39 pm
“They’ve also got the a.l. Mvp josh anderson!”
Now, while I as much as anybody appreciate the sarcasm. Let’s not get carried away. NOBODY, not one single person griping about the Josh Anderson trade has claimed he would be an MVP caliber player. If I’m wrong, please link to said blog posts saying so.
HOWEVER… In the month of April, he not only would have been one of our better hitting OF, he very well might have been the best hitter PERIOD on the Braves at that time. Certainly would have impacted a couple more games to go our way.
But feel free to exaggerate, I enjoy the humor.
McFann :Ô:
May 29th, 2009
11:41 pm
Aaarrrggg…What’s the prob, BMac?
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:41 pm
Tom-
my leather jacket is a little more…girly
And yeah, I think I’d rather see JJ give up a hit then walk a guy…but i’ve got absolutly no problem with the way JJ pitches…Maddux pitched like that too and it seemed to work ok for him
(ugh- Dog just stepped on my stomach trying to get past me…ouch!)
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:41 pm
Looking through the box scores, there are some great players really struggling.
Elvis Presley
May 29th, 2009
11:41 pm
Paul, it’s a really good scene. Might have recommended it without using that particular part as the set-up. I’m just sayin’…
Hopper & Walken are just untoppable in that scene.
Interested Observer
May 29th, 2009
11:41 pm
Don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but Will Ohman was placed on the DL today with a sore shoulder.
Elvis Presley
May 29th, 2009
11:43 pm
Would have been a good inning to get a run. Oh well.
Hang on boys and girls. Could get fuzzy.
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:43 pm
Of course, DOB’s leather jacket could be cropped and have pink arm fringe…we can really only see the very top of it after all
(sorry DOB!)
Shoeless Joe
May 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
Rob(from SC)
Don’t disagree with anything you’re saying, but the signing of Kawakami created a situation where we’re stuck with him for the duration, and more importantly, we can’t use the $8MM per to satisfy our other more pressing needs. Something’s got to give imo.
Steve from OH
May 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
HOWEVER… In the month of April, he not only would have been one of our better hitting OF,
That ain’t saying much. He still isn’t good. And we need good OFers, wouldn’tja say?
N8
May 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
“Looking through the box scores, there are some great players really struggling.”
Or perhaps, there are some really mediocre players that appeared to be great, that are now NOT using PED’s, that have come back to earth?
Tom O'Hawke
May 29th, 2009
11:44 pm
McFann– (2 things)
1) I agree it’s hard not to reply, but that’s the only way to make those idiots go away. Your response (or others) is what they’re looking for.
2) What the HECK are you doing up so late? (I mean, it’s OK with me, just wondering)
RHR
May 29th, 2009
11:46 pm
This is the funniest parody of a commencement speech ever. If you are an adult. (Hint: Don’t read it, McFann)
http://deadspin.com/5251547/a-special-balls-deep-message-to-the-class-of-2009
Jurrjens4NLCY
May 29th, 2009
11:47 pm
PLEASE HELP, ok so I live in Chicago, so tomorrow will I have to watch the Cubs? That would suck because I can’t watch it on MLB.TV (No plug intended) So does anyone know?
nolie
May 29th, 2009
11:47 pm
Too much like last year, they don’t score all that much and when they do it is often a lot of runs in one game.Irritating to say the least.
Elvis Presley
May 29th, 2009
11:47 pm
Jeff “my ERA is a lie” Bennett on to scare us to death.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:47 pm
Shoeless Joe
If the Braves want to win then they might need to make Kawakami a 8 million dollar reliever. I would also look into the market for Vazquez. If a team in the playoff picture needs a proven SP then maybe we can pry away a top prospect for Javier. Lowe-Jurrjens-Hanson-Hudson-Morton 2010 rotation looks solid
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:48 pm
I would try to lure Justin Smoak from Texas
N8
May 29th, 2009
11:48 pm
“That ain’t saying much. He still isn’t good. And we need good OFers, wouldn’tja say”
Of course we do Steve. But in April and May, I would have settled for average, wouldn’t you have? Add to that, from what I saw last year, and in the spring, he’s better defensively than Diaz and Garret. So….
But, seriously, don’t think he was a long term answer. Just would be a nice 4th OF, and probably wouldn’t be any worse of the bench than Norton, and can run to boot. With Prado capable of backing up Kotchman at 1B (in a pinch), there is ZERO need for Norton on this roster. He was a fine addition last year. No doubt about it. But Luis Polonia was a fine addition in 95 too. But there would be just as much need for him on our bench right now.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:48 pm
Escobar is about to become a superstar real soon!
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:49 pm
When Bennett throws strikes he is a solid relief pitcher.
No More Bobby
May 29th, 2009
11:49 pm
If I were Francoeur, I would be on my best behavior and get the hell out of here to go play for a winning team.
N8
May 29th, 2009
11:50 pm
Couldn’t agree with you 11:47 anymore, Nolie. But either way, it’s nice to see a “crooked” number in the box score for a change. But the realist/pessimist in me, says we lose a 1-run game tomorrow.
Then again, this game isn’t over, so I’ll just let this one play out.
BravesFanChris24
May 29th, 2009
11:50 pm
Bennett seems to have it all figured out. He was effective last year. I guess he has gotten the struggles out early.
c jonze
May 29th, 2009
11:50 pm
Anyone think Medlen was brought up to buy some time for Glavine and/or Hansen, all the while shopping him around the league at the same time? Seems like since Morton had been up before, and for an extended period of time, he would be the logical guy to bring up if they had not wanted to expose a rookie.
keylargo
May 29th, 2009
11:50 pm
I’m not giving JJ ANY flack for his performance tonight. If any starter we have deserves to get a win when he’s not sharp it’s JJ. He pitched his butt off a couple of times and got no support from the Braves.
Chop Chop
May 29th, 2009
11:51 pm
I was thinking the same thing, nolie. Some of the more positive folks don’t seem to understand why fans who are less positive could have doubts about this team. In fact, that drives me crazier than watching this club yo-yo up and down all year. Maybe I’m stupid or something, but it sure as hell seems to me like the Braves are an inconsistent team. They like to bunch their runs in certain games (you know, to “break out” of a team-wide slump), yet the slump invariably returns.
Paul Lentz
May 29th, 2009
11:52 pm
Elvis Presley, the reason that scene is so great isnt because Hopper uses the N-word…to be honest, chances are his character may not have been a racist. However we all know that the average Sicilian gangster harbors racist attitudes. Hopper knew that he was going to die because he wasnt about to sell out his son. Knowing that he was going to die, Hopper figured that he would go out “swinging”. His way of going out swinging was to insult Sicilian people in a way that Walken’s character would never forget. Tell a Sicilian gangster that his “great, great, great, great, great grandmother fcuked a ni__er….that he has black blood pumping through his veins” (Hopper had earlier said that the Moors conquered Sicily centuries ago, and that they “did so much fcuking to Sicilian women, that they changed the whole bloodline forever”…..is an insult of the highest order to a Sicilian gangster.
I’m not saying that having black blood in your bloodlines is insulting. I’m saying that Hopper’s character knew that Sicilian gangsters would take it as an insult. Walken’s shocked look when Hopper first started his rant was priceless. I think that he was so shocked that Hooper had the balls to say something like that to him. After laughing it off, he gives him the kiss of death and unloads the pistol clip into him.
Shoeless Joe
May 29th, 2009
11:52 pm
Rob (from SC)
Again I agree with your basic approach, but you’re essentially saying we should be building for 2010 and not worry about winning in ‘09. If the powers that be took that approach and invested ‘09 into our young talent we would be better off. Unfortunately they don’t make the rebuilding commitment required, so we’re talking 2 steps forward and on step back.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:53 pm
Does anybody know anything about the closer we just promoted to Mississippi
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:54 pm
Shoeless Joe
I think Hanson will outpitch Vazquez in the second half.
Tom O'Hawke
May 29th, 2009
11:54 pm
“my leather jacket is a little more…girly”–cabravesfan
I figured it was, but it didn’t matter. What matters is what the jacket was wrapped around, and how I was imagining that. You probably don’t realize how vivid my imagination is. Oh, baby! Yeah, there’s no Dave in there (no offense DOB, I’m sure you understand. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)
Back to baseball, …..ahhh, the heck with baseball, for now. I’m gonna daydream.
Elvis Presley
May 29th, 2009
11:54 pm
Keylargo, amen. He manned up when he had to. Probably took some calculated gimme-contact risks until things got iffy. Then shut ‘em down.
Steve from OH
May 29th, 2009
11:55 pm
RHR, that was way more funny than the video I posted. Good stuff!
freshd
May 29th, 2009
11:55 pm
Why does Francoeur always swing at the first pitch?
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:55 pm
You probably don’t realize how vivid my imagination is.
I’m starting to get a real clear picture, Tom
AndyC
May 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
What the F_ck is on that guy’s neck!?!
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
And Tom, thank you for making me spill my beer
Elvis Presley
May 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
Paul, I smell what’cha steppin’ in. Agreed on Hopper not being a racist, just committing suicide by anecdote. I’m just sayin’, here on the blog, there might be a more sensitive way to suggest folks check it out.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
Got to love Schafer actually putting the ball in play
Steve from OH
May 29th, 2009
11:56 pm
Gearrin? Sidearmer, sinker/slider guy I think. Guy’s been putting up good numbers lately so he’s been moving onto my radar. Whatever that’s worth…
Steve from OH
May 29th, 2009
11:57 pm
And yes, I hate it when I wake up at 7:30 voluntarily. And I’m not that old…sigh…
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:58 pm
Shoeless Joe –
Even if we do trade Vazquez we still have – Lowe, Jurrjens, Hanson, Hudson (August), Glavine, Morton, Medlen, Kawakami. If we can get a top position prospect from a desperate team in July then Vazquez needs to go.
cabravesfan
May 29th, 2009
11:58 pm
AndyC-
as weird as it is, it is 100 times less creepy then the one Ryan Roberts is sporting on his neck! Neck tats are just…no! No, no, never! (and I am a fan of tattoos)
BigMacAttack
May 29th, 2009
11:58 pm
Norton batting .100, not exactly a number you like to see attached to your PH specialist.
Rob (from SC)
May 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
Steve, I think that is his name. I also would like to see how Valdez would do in the ML.
Chop Chop
May 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
Francoeur almost always swings at the first pitch because he’s a career .345 hitter on the first pitch.
stynes
May 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
I know I’m late to the game, but regarding the trivia question, my guess was Berkman as well. He has over 3k plate appearances and according to MLB.com he’s currently hitting .300 for his career. If you do the math – 1486 hits / 4960 ABs, he’s hitting .2996. Which is technically not .300.
I bring that up to talk about Ted Williams, though. Everyone’s heard of his .400 season. Legend has it going into the final day of the season he was hitting .400 – at least in the box score (it was actually .3996). His manager told him it was up to him if he wanted to play the final day of the season in a double header to ensure that he kept his .400 average. Williams said something along the lines of it shouldn’t count if he didn’t play. He went 6/8 in the two games and finished the year as everyone knows at .406.
The really interesting part is that supposedly had he opted not to play the final day his .400 season would not have counted because he would have technically hit .3996. Similar to Berkman’s .2996 average not being technically .300, I guess.
And now you know… the rest of the story. Or at least the rest of the legend.
JCG
May 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
Just got home from the Jamey Johnson show at the Orangepeel up here in Asheville, NC. Awesome show, he played about 3 hrs. Glad to see the one braves game I didn’t watch this week the bravos are winning. Guess I might have to not watch sat or sun. Yeah I’m a little supersticious.
RHR
May 29th, 2009
11:59 pm
Steve – so funny because it’s so dang true!
I hate swimming pools in ballparks. Get that crap out of there. Worst ballpark trend ever.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:00 am
Moylan scares me
Steve from OH
May 30th, 2009
12:00 am
He’d probably struggle a bit at first, like all rookies, Rob. What else would you expect, another Soriano lurking in the minors?
Shoeless Joe
May 30th, 2009
12:01 am
Rob (from SC)
Hanson’s a real talent and will be a major contributor for the Brave’s, but I’d like to give him a year before I raise my expectations for him. We put a lot of pressure on our young starters especially considering our inability to provide any run support. Matt Harrison is settling in Texas and it helps to have that run support in case you make a mistake or two.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:01 am
here we go again with the balls
RHR
May 30th, 2009
12:01 am
That’s good knowledge, stynes.
Roja
May 30th, 2009
12:02 am
Maybe we can trade for Andruw. He’s making major league minimum and in 22 games this year he’s hitting .303 with 5 HRs and 14 RBIs. If nothing else, we can use him as a pinch hitter. He couldn’t do worse than 0′fer ‘09 Norton and he could platoon with Schafer.
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May 30th, 2009
12:03 am
But either way, it’s nice to see a “crooked” number in the box score for a change. But the realist/pessimist in me, says we lose a 1-run game tomorrow.
Another Real Braves Fan making sure to do his best to make sure no one enjoys a win too much!
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:03 am
Steve
no, but when you do that well at AAA, I would like to see if that translates to the majors. He walked a lot of batters in ST so I would like to know if he can be more than a 4A player.
BRAVES BULL........
May 30th, 2009
12:03 am
hope we have some one warming up now.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:03 am
Get somebody else up NOW!
BRAVES BULL........
May 30th, 2009
12:04 am
lol…..
PWHjort
May 30th, 2009
12:04 am
N8, how do you figure Gorkys would thrive more than Schafer?
I’ll keep posting this every day if I have to:
Career Minor League Stats:
Jordan Schafer: .270/.339/.447 – 178 ISOP, 69 Batter’s Eye
Gorkys Hernandez: .295/.354/.405 – 110 ISOP, 59 Batter’s Eye
Schafer had 2 and 2/3 full seasons plus a rookie league shortened season.
Gorkys has had 2 full seasons and a rookie league shortened season (plus this one).
AA stats:
Gorkys Hernandez: .339/.393/.417 – 78 ISOP, 54 Batter’s Eye
Jordan Schafer: .269/.378/.471 – 202 ISOP, 109 Batter’s Eye
Neither one of them is ready for the big leagues, but based on their minor league track records, Schafer is much more ready than Gorkys. Gorkys displays very, very little secondary offense (other than sb). He doesn’t hit for power, he doesn’t really draw that many walks, and most of his stats are batting-average driven. Part of the reason his average is so high is he legs out infield singles all the time. One of the biggest differences between minor league baseball and MLB is the defenses in MLB are far superior to those in MiLB. You can’t tell me that if Gorkys were called up today you’d expect him to fare better against MLB pitching than Schafer currently is. Take away a few singles and a few doubles from Gorkys just due to the better defenses, and he’s already looking like a replacement level player. And we haven’t even accounted for the fact that the pitchers are way, WAY better. Schafer is struggling right now because he can’t hit MLB pitching like he could hit MiLB pitching. But he’s providing secondary skills with his bat and in the field which make him not a total black hole of a roster spot. While Gorkys would provide a similar level of defense, he’s not really capable of providing the secondary offensive skills that Schafer possesses, and he ain’t going to jump into MLB from AA and hit .339 (which is what he has to do to be an above-average offensive player), or even .285. The kids game needs a LOT of polish. He’s just way too raw for MLB right now.
Elvis Presley
May 30th, 2009
12:04 am
Moylan toilin’.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:04 am
Why the F*** is this guy pitching anywwhere near a close game.
Letsgetrich
May 30th, 2009
12:04 am
Not trying to sound smart but can someone explain to me what the Braves saw in Kawakami to pay him over 8 mil a year plus a multi year contract? He is 4th or 5th in the rotation at best and is not proven in MLB. Any baseball related explanations?
RHR
May 30th, 2009
12:05 am
Where have you gone, Raffy Soriano?
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:06 am
Letsgetrich
Because Frank Wren might have Panicked after missing out on Peavy and Burnett. He also did not know Lowe would be signed
TnBrian
May 30th, 2009
12:06 am
Maybe if Moylan would lose some of that fat gut he’d get his sidearm thing working! Damn he’s fat!
BRAVES BULL........
May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
wooow.lol
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May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
Regular Thinking Fan;
Gee I’m glad the Braves won tonight. They really need to get out of that losing streak.
But a “Real” Braves Fan (as seen on the Braves/MIB Blog says:
I was thinking the same thing, nolie. Some of the more positive folks don’t seem to understand why fans who are less positive could have doubts about this team. In fact, that drives me crazier
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
Is Cox watching the same game I am. Get Moylan’s ass on a plane to AAA to figure it out. Right now he sucks.
Roja
May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
Where has your brain gone Bobby Cox?
Elvis Presley
May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
Well, this just mama-freakin’ blows.
J williams
May 30th, 2009
12:07 am
Could Bennett not have gone two innings?
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
TnBrian
Thank you. I have benn calling Moylan fat since ST and people say it does not matter. Where is the hook
BRAVES BULL........
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
get him out
TnBrian
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
Why not leave Bennett in there?
J williams
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
Get Peter out now!!!!
Jurrjens4NLCY
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
Never thought the tying run would come to the plate
Boo
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
Moylan brings his gasoline can to the pitcher’s mound.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
This reminds me of the Philadelphia game
RC
May 30th, 2009
12:08 am
Should the announcers really say Anderson “charges” in? How about Anderson “ambles” in? Or “meanders” in?
AndyC
May 30th, 2009
12:09 am
cabravesfan
It is definitely less creepy than Ryan Roberts tattoo…I just can’t tell what it is. I am not personally a fan of tattoo’s but I can appreciate the artistic value of some tat’s I have seen. I just can’t get over the whole scarring your body for life thing…especially on areas of the body that can be easily seen by everyone.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:09 am
The tying run is not at the plate
YET!
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:09 am
BIG DP there.
BravesFanChris24
May 30th, 2009
12:09 am
Finally a DP!
TnBrian
May 30th, 2009
12:10 am
Doesn’t matter my A**! You can tell his weight is making him not be as balanced through his wind up as he was two years.
AndyC
May 30th, 2009
12:10 am
Pull Moylan now! He’s done.
Rob (from SC)
May 30th, 2009
12:10 am
Peter Moylan blows. He never completes an inning. WTF. Use somebody else. Manny Acosta looks pretty good so far
StingerSplash
May 30th, 2009
12:11 am
DOB,
Moylan may be a good dude and all, but the Braves can’t keep running him out there. Sure, he just got a double play — but only after a walk (when you’re up by five runs) and two liners that brought in a run. He’s got to go down to get straightened out or something. This is painful.
RHR
May 30th, 2009
12:11 am
I hope they at least say Hi to the blog when they finally break down and call him Loaf on the air.
Mitchell
May 30th, 2009
12:11 am
Why the hell would you take Jeff Bennett out of this game?
Why would Bobby pinch hit for him with two outs and nobody on base? Is a 1-2-3 inning not good enough?
What the ****. Moylan needs to get his %$#@ together.