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buzzmeat

May 29th, 2009
7:50 pm

i hope so jeff!!!!

Rob (from SC)

May 29th, 2009
7:51 pm

Heyward is not in the Myrtle Beach lineup for the third straight game. Does anyone know why.

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
7:51 pm

Is stopping the skid really important?

I think the most important thing is to get offensive help. JJJ can stop the skid, and what would that mean? We would still be a team unable to beat the pirates, rockies, giants, nats 7 out of 10 times………..and thats how it should be.

This is a team that can put 5 wins together…………Its easy to say this team, right now, isnt going anywhere. There are many things that can tell you that, and one of them is the inability to put 4-5-6 wins together twice a month. They might put 4 maybe 5 wins together, but once a year………thats not a team to beat. Even the giants put 3 wins together (against us).

TnBrian

May 29th, 2009
7:51 pm

Coach, why, because they’ve lost 4 in a row? Seriously, it can change Coach. They need Escobar and a relatively, I say because anybody with any Braves knowledge knows this guy is an injury waiting to happen. Anyways, Yunel is so key and these last five games proves that and how great of a hitter, run producer he is. I’m not quiting on my team in May.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
7:51 pm

Jeff Francoeur, you couldn’t go 4 for 4 playing Guitar Hero with Helen Keller.

Jeff Francouer

May 29th, 2009
7:52 pm

MFin04 & buzzmeat thanks im dedicating my game tonight to you fellas

TnBrian

May 29th, 2009
7:52 pm

My Lord, I meant a relatively healthy Chipper.

Jeff Francouer

May 29th, 2009
7:53 pm

Elvis please dont be cruel cause i know you’re wearing my jersey right now

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
7:54 pm

Peppridge Blogs Remembers, are you getting all these predictions from Coach?

PWHjort

May 29th, 2009
7:54 pm

Wieters coming to the plate for the first time.

Ambrosine

May 29th, 2009
7:54 pm

My guess be Jeff Francoeur goes 1-fo’-4 wid some weenie sin’le.

PWHjort

May 29th, 2009
7:56 pm

And he hits into a 9-5 double play. I’ll let you mull that over for a second.

What's with the mask?

May 29th, 2009
7:57 pm

Francoeur will wear an Organic Cotton Face Mask tonight at the plate. His latest excuse for being an underachieving hitter is, either the catcher or ump keeps farting and he gets distracted.

When asked about his less than stellar speed in the outfield Francoeur replied “I can’t run any faster or I might bust my diaper wide open.”

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:01 pm

I hope that “Failcouer #7″ shirt they sold on choptalk becomes all the rage.

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:01 pm

I know most of you might say………… here it goes again………..what an SOB………..cant he just shut up? But here it goes……………WTH is KJ doing batting leadoff????????????????

Bobby is the kind of guy that plants orange seeds………..he gets and orange tree and he picks up an orange, takes some seeds out of it and plants them hoping this time he get an apple tree

COX———–ARE YOU STPD??? You will get the same result our of KJ batting leadoff the whole dam season……………..he will go 1 for 4 or 0 for 4 tonight…………..learn from past experience please. Show us that 45 years in baseball have not been in vain.

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:02 pm

What is taking so long to get rid of JF???

Well, on 2nd thought that is a stpd Q…Nobody wants him.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:03 pm

There sure are a lot of Steves on this blog.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:05 pm

Speaking of Steves, we have a Nova Scotia Steve.

That’s funny because I got a call today from Nova Scotia. Well, it’s funny to me anyways.

Ambrosine

May 29th, 2009
8:05 pm

Wow Doc, ya’ sho’ nuff hate KJ. We dun did go 2-fo’-4 with 2 doubles yesterday.

In Kelly Johnson’s last seven games, he is hitting .320 and is OPSing an astounding 1.080; all fum da leadoff spot.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:07 pm

“Bobby is the kind of guy that plants orange seeds………..he gets and orange tree and he picks up an orange, takes some seeds out of it and plants them hoping this time he get an apple tree.”

Now you’re comparing apples and oranges.

MFin04

May 29th, 2009
8:08 pm

We all know KJ shouldn’t be hitting leadoff, but Bobby is old and senile he can’t help it!!!

cvbraves

May 29th, 2009
8:08 pm

Doc Holiday…KJ was 2 for 4 last night (both doubles).

B-Tank

May 29th, 2009
8:09 pm

Doc Holliday, last night KJ batted leadoff and went 2 for 4.

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
8:10 pm

Nova Scotia Steve? Gots a good name, that boy. Does he like hockey?

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
8:11 pm

Just about the entire team showed up for early (voluntary) hitting this afternoon, hit at 2 p.m. with the roof on this place open, quite warm….

But if they end their offensive malaise tonight, I’m gonna have to say it was because of Tony Montana. There’s a DVD collection here in the clubhouse, and someone picks a movie each day to play on the big-screen at the center of the clubhouse. Today, it was Scarface.

I watched the last 15 minutes of the movie standing behind two sofas of players who were at rapt attention for Pacino’s “Say hello to my little friend” moment. The group included: Mike Gonzalez, Jair Jurrjens, Yunel Escobar, Javier Vazquez, Manny Acosta, and Francoeur. Chipper also came over to watch the last few minutes, the big shootout. He’d never seen the movie, believe it or not.

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
8:12 pm

By the way, Chipper’s hurting more today. He’ll probably sit tomorrow against the lefty, Doug Davis.

Capt Caveman

May 29th, 2009
8:12 pm

I appreciate the speed with which the ajc took care of the name stealing blogger.

MFin04

May 29th, 2009
8:14 pm

Just because a guy goes 2-4 hitting leadoff doesn’t mean he is best suited for the leadoff role.

KJ’s averages batting in the order:

1) .260
2) .246
3) .239
4) .286
5) .313
6) .303
7) .331
8.) .343

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:14 pm

Chipper’s never seen Scarface? I miss Ohman.

de palma

May 29th, 2009
8:15 pm

I hope the “Scarface” movie doesn’t give Yunel Escobar any ideas.

Tired of Rules

May 29th, 2009
8:15 pm

Can we please in this country legalize horse meat? It tastes good and they’re not threatened animals.

RedandBlack

May 29th, 2009
8:15 pm

Frank Wren should send Francoeur and Schafer to Gwinnett and call up the next two best hitting outfielders in the minor leagues from Mississippi or Gwinnett. No one is going to give the Braves much of anything for Francoeur and Schafer just needs more time in the minors. Why throw any more money on an outfielder now. The Braves can not trade any more of their pitchers away just to rent another player that they have no intention of keeping around when the bill comes due.

It is time to go young and let the hungriest thrive. The Braves need to do something real soon. Francoeur just is not getting it done and neither is Schafer. Our attention span is waning and football season is getting closer. The Braves better capitalize on something soon because fans are fixing to change the channel. N-E-X-T!! Go Braves!!

Sarge

May 29th, 2009
8:16 pm

Tony Montana had a lot of faults but you have to admit he died like a man.

McFann :Ô:

May 29th, 2009
8:17 pm

Sweet! Those SUPER ANNOYING people were deleted! THANK YOU!

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:17 pm

I dont hate KJ…………..he is valuable as long as he hits 6th or 7th…………..I hate Cox because that old man hates the bravos…………putting KJ leadoff has no other explanation.

Vinings Jim

May 29th, 2009
8:18 pm

Rob (from SC) – I found this on the Talking Chop Blog, Minor League Recap 5/28:

Jason Heyward sat out a second straight game. My guess is his hammy is tender again and they are just being cautious with him.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of said information – I found it through the miracle of Google.

CorkylikesBeer

May 29th, 2009
8:19 pm

When is Chipper not hurting..always some kind of nagging injury….

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:19 pm

Maybe after watching that movie they start showing some balls like AL PA…….

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:21 pm

Cant we trade JF for some cheerleaders? That might be cool enough

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:22 pm

The only thing chipper has hurting is his soul.

bravefaninok

May 29th, 2009
8:22 pm

Billy Ripken said on Xm radio,When most guys are getting called up ,there benched and told not to get injured getting a drink……maybee Heyward is coming to Atlanta?

Tired of Rules

May 29th, 2009
8:23 pm

Anyone else like horse meat?

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:24 pm

Check. With you on the horse meat. S’good.

Braveheart

May 29th, 2009
8:25 pm

I see similarities between the TP, Bobby Cox, and hitter issues and the Dale, Jr., Teresa Earnhardt, Rick Hendrick, Tony Eury, Jr. issues. When Dale Jr. was with his stepmother, everyone blamed her and Eury, Jr. for his failures. They removed Eury Jr. from being his cousin’s crew chief, and Dale, Jr. did even worse, so they brought Eury, Jr back as his cousin’s crew chief. So the blame then all fell on Dale, Jr.’s stepmother for his failures as a driver.

Then Dale, Jr. left his stepmother, and got a new owner in Hendrick, and continued to fail. Obviously then it wasn’t all the owner, just like it’s likely not all Bobby Cox’s fault that his players fail to live up to their potential. You can get a new manager or car owner, and the results likely won’t change.

So without the owner to blame, they blame it all on Eury, Jr. for his cousin’s failures. So now this week, Eury, Jr. gets removed as his cousin’s crew chief. Maybe the results will change for Dale, Jr., or maybe they will remain the same. If they change, it doesn’t necessarily mean Eury, Jr. was a bad crew chief just like if the Braves hit better without TP, it won’t necessarily mean he was a bad hitting coach.

Maybe the relationship just lasted too long, and the players and driver just started tuning out the message, and needed a new voice in their ear. Or maybe it’ll just be one of those things that the players and driver finally grew up and matured into their potential once all their all too convenient excuses had been taken away from them.

Or maybe nothing changes at all, and everyone finally realizes it ain’t the owner that sucks, it ain’t the manager that sucks, it ain’t the crew chief that sucks, it ain’t the hitting coach that sucks.

No longer able to hide behind convenient scapegoats, maybe it will finally be revealed that it is the hitters and driver who suck.

MFin04

May 29th, 2009
8:26 pm

I’ve eat Elmer’s glue does that count?

nolie

May 29th, 2009
8:26 pm

STEVE-EFRIM. don’t know if you guys have read this interview with Jim Callis by Baseballanalysts.

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/05/qa_with_basebal.php

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:26 pm

“Cant we trade JF for some cheerleaders? That might be cool enough.”

I’d trade him for the confused flag twirler from my highschool that cut his ya-ya off in the bathroom.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:26 pm

Frank Wren should send Francoeur and Schafer to Gwinnett and call up the next two best hitting outfielders in the minor leagues from Mississippi or Gwinnett.

Oh yeah, real good plan there pal. Who ya gonna take? Brandon Jones and Gorkys Hernandez? Sounds real smart to me. I’m all for bringing up BJones to replace one of our corner outfielders, but what is your other solution?

Mitchell

May 29th, 2009
8:26 pm

Why am I always the guy to make the last comment at the end of each blog right before it switches over?

I demand to be heard. Please?

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:27 pm

Mets Shopping Ramon Castro
By Tim Dierkes [May 29 at 4:41pm CST]

According to Adam Rubin of the New York Daily News, the Mets are trying to trade catcher Ramon Castro before Saturday’s game (hat tip to MetsBlog). They’ve spoken to the Mariners, who just lost Kenji Johjima for a couple of months. Rubin says the Mets are not prepared to eat Castro’s remaining $1.79MM. Castro is a solid offensive catcher, so he should draw interest.

Capt Caveman

May 29th, 2009
8:27 pm

Favorite Scarface Line — No , I’m not gonna kill you. Manolo, shoot that piece of ####!!

CorkylikesBeer

May 29th, 2009
8:27 pm

DOB…have you ever been to a Kinchafoonee cowboys’s concert

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:28 pm

And me asking what your other solution is implies that I think bringing up Hernandez is a bad idea, fyi.

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:28 pm

Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Peavy, Braves, Penny, Francoeur
By Cork Gaines [May 29 at 4:00pm CST]

On this date 20 years ago, Mike Schmidt announced his retirement 42 games into the season. He was still voted to the National League All-Star team, but did not play. Schmidt retired with a career line of .267/.380/.527, 548 home runs and 10 gold gloves. As we approach the 50-game mark of the ‘09 season, teams are starting to recognize needs and make changes. Let’s take a look at what is being written in the Blogosphere…

# When Sid Slid highlights players the Braves might be able to target in a trade, including Luke Scott, Josh Willingham and Brad Hawpe.

Capitol Avenue Club says it is time for the Braves to shake things up and moving Jeff Francoeur is the key.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:30 pm

Uh oh. Didn’t mean to start that, exactly. Sorry, mama.

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
8:30 pm

Thanks for the link, nolie. Great read!

JD

May 29th, 2009
8:30 pm

And me asking what your other solution is implies that I think bringing up Hernandez is a bad idea, fyi

So you’re saying it’s not a good idea to promote someone who doesn’t even have a full season of AA ball under him? hmmm…

Kyle

May 29th, 2009
8:31 pm

Luke Scott just hit a grand slam btw…and is b atting .441 in the past 12 games or so…I thought he’d be good before he started going off but I think now would be the worst time to go get Luke Scott when his value is probably not equal to his production

JD

May 29th, 2009
8:33 pm

…then again, McCann was called up from AA.

But then again, so was Francoeur. Although he was good for 2.5 years.

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:33 pm

This is just in……….Braves just trades JF to the phillies for Raul Ibañez….

%&”$&&”·%!·$

Sorry, I was day dreaming.

Mark Twine

May 29th, 2009
8:34 pm

Carlito’s Way > Scarface

Im feeling a Chip DL stint est: 1 week

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:34 pm

JF was good for 2.5 years???? Really……….Wow, human mind is amazing, I cant recall him being good that long.

RHR

May 29th, 2009
8:35 pm

Good stuff, DOB. And I can believe Chipper has never seen Scarface. I mean, have you ever heard his answers to the “Braves Straight Up” questions, or read his answers to questions like that in the program? His favorite tv show is FRIENDS for petes sake. And his answer to the question of what movie he most wanted to see next was THE BUCKET LIST. I was like… WTF? Who are you? :lol:

Tired of Rules

May 29th, 2009
8:35 pm

This is just in……….Braves just trades JF to the phillies for Raul Ibañez.

The Fran-fans would call that a steal for the Phillies!

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:36 pm

I’ve never seen Scarface. In fact, I was at a restaurant yesterday and the coasters had these little conversations starters on them. Mine had “Which is the Greatest Movie of All Time?” and I hadn’t seen more than half of them, including Star Wars, The Godfather, Crush, etc…I don’t even remember them all. There were about 20.

I have seen one Star Wars movie. All I remember was a planet with a golden man and a man that looked like a vacuum cleaner.

RHR

May 29th, 2009
8:38 pm

LOL Roman Gal. Blame your parents?

Eazy E

May 29th, 2009
8:38 pm

Elvis Presley,

If you want to listen to grown nerds cry about the ATL Braves, then Atlanta Baseball Talk is your place. Those geeks don’t have any real baseball contacts. I did hear a podcast with DOB that was pretty good. David did most of the talking by the way.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:38 pm

Carlito’s Way, is, indeed, the better movie. Masterpiece. “Somebody’s pullin’ me close to the ground…”

Braveheart

May 29th, 2009
8:39 pm

Escobar is so Tony Montana. I would have loved to be in the room with him watching that.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

RHR, I wish I could. Actually, my aunt is a total Star Wars nerd. I plan on watching at least some of those movies before the summer is over. Dangit! I shoulda stolen that coaster!

Jeff Francoeur

May 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

Im still here, im still strong and i aint going no where

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

Roman Gal, tell me you’re not lying! No Godfather? No Scarface? Dios Mio! You got some movie watchin’ to do…

For all of you Pulp Fiction and/or hockey fans, you may enjoy this slightly hilarious video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHo0rJC5t-o&feature=related

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:40 pm

Eazy E, they had Glavine on as well. I read grown nerds crying about them here, so why not?

Jay212033

May 29th, 2009
8:41 pm

“oh, and they’re playing some old (pre-Badmotorfinger) Soundgarden during D’backs BP. Nice.”

Dave did they play my fav Soundgarden song “Black Hole Sun”?

nolie

May 29th, 2009
8:41 pm

Though I’m not sure that Gorkys wouldn’t be better served to do alright up here right now. Not a big power guy and seems to use his speed to get on base. (N8)

oh yeah, we’ve had such success by rushing Schafer up through the minors, a guy similar to Gorkys who has been rated as the better prospect for the most part. Lacking much sense to me dude.

Pete

May 29th, 2009
8:41 pm

Roman Gal: “I’ve never seen Scarface.”
Promise me you will see it….an absolute classic. But if you do not like listening to F-bombs, then mute the volume lol

jack

May 29th, 2009
8:41 pm

andrew 303 5 home rus 14 rbis does that say anything about T P

JD

May 29th, 2009
8:43 pm

JF was good for 2.5 years???? Really……….Wow, human mind is amazing, I cant recall him being good that long.

Let’s see…

-There was his rookie season in 2005 when we all thought he was immortal.
-Then there was 2006 when he hit 28 or 29 HR with over 100 RBIs.
-Then there was 2007 when he hit in the .290s with over 100 RBIs.
-Then there was 2008-2009 when he’s just laid a big egg.

I’ll stick to my hopes that he’s about to turn a corner and surprise us, though.

PWHjort

May 29th, 2009
8:43 pm

Luke Scott has been on a tear since he’s been activated. But I think we’d probably have to give up useful players to get him.

Capt Caveman

May 29th, 2009
8:43 pm

Favorite Carlito quote : He’s got a good future if he can live past next week.

Tired of Rules

May 29th, 2009
8:44 pm

andrew 303 5 home rus 14 rbis does that say anything about T P

Is Terry Pendleton the hitting coach for the Los Angeles Dodgers?

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:44 pm

Roman Gal,

Crush is one of the greatest movies? Which movie is that?

Dont forget about Gladiator…………you even talked with the guy the other day.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:45 pm

Steve from OH and Pete

I know. I’m a failure. So, I guess I’ll need to be adding that movie to the ol’ checklist, eh? Anything else I should add?

Tired of Rules

May 29th, 2009
8:45 pm

Francoeur sucked in 2006 and was league average for his position in 2007. He’s never been that good, it’s just the Atlanta media has an orgasm over the guy and goes crazy with praise every time Francoeur looks even mediocre.

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
8:45 pm

Gotta see the Godfather parts I and II as well.

JD

May 29th, 2009
8:46 pm

Shouldn’t you be warming up, Jeff?

Sarge

May 29th, 2009
8:46 pm

Now that I think of it… what the hell are a bunch of ballplayers doing watching a three hour movie in the middle of the friggin’ day.

They should have been out exercising or practicing their craft.

That’s what real men would do.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:46 pm

Doc Holiday,

I don’t know about Crush. I’ve never seen it. But I have seen Gladiator. In fact, I have it!

cabravesfan

May 29th, 2009
8:46 pm

Gotta admit I’ve never seen Scarface or The Godfather either…but i am a total Star Wars junkie :)

McFann :Ô:

May 29th, 2009
8:46 pm

Hey, no Byrnes tonight! :D

Braveheart

May 29th, 2009
8:47 pm

Roman Gal, how could you have not seen Star Wars?

Nerd alert! Right now, I can see Chipper-wan Kinobi at the end of his battle with Anakin Francoeur at the end of Revenge of the Sith, looking down at a defeated Anakin Francoeur as he melts away in the lava, saying all confused and hurt, “But you were the Chosen One!” Sadly, we’ll likely have to wait for The New Hope Heyward to be the true Chosen One like they had to wait for Luke Skywalker to bring balance to the Force.

Capt Caveman

May 29th, 2009
8:47 pm

I must confess that for as big a movie buff as I am I have never seen the Godfather in it’s entirety. I have it downloaded but have not had a full 3 hrs to view it at once. I can’t stand watching them on TV with the censoring and the editing. I have seen every other movie made by Pacino, Deniro, Pesci, et al multiple times.

Eazy E

May 29th, 2009
8:48 pm

They still don’t know jack about Bobby C’s intentions after this year. They just read, report and cry.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:49 pm

“Shouldn’t you be warming up, Jeff?” -JD

Pshhh, he should be starting his first swing.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:49 pm

Braveheart,

I realized the other day how much I needed to see Star Wars when I watched Spaceballs.

nolie

May 29th, 2009
8:50 pm

n Kelly Johnson’s last seven games, he is hitting .320 and is OPSing an astounding 1.080; all fum da leadoff spot.

yeah Doc, what about that? Doesn’t seem to jibe with your recent posts.

Jeff Francoeur

May 29th, 2009
8:50 pm

Im already warm, im hot and im on a tear havent you been watchin

Doc Holiday

May 29th, 2009
8:51 pm

Favorite Bobby Coxs quote: “The guys are really hitting the ball hard, a very long way, cant recall the braves hitting the ball this hard, too bad stadiums are 3 feet longer than what they should be.” or maybe “The offensive has been playing really well the last 10 games, havent seen a braves offense this hot in years, its a shame they dont score you half a run for getting to 2b, if so, we might have won a few more games.”

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
8:51 pm

cabravesfan, I recently found out that my mother was a trekkie. She turned out pretty normal. There’s hope for you, too.

Elvis Presley

May 29th, 2009
8:51 pm

Eazy E, so, the direct quotes they had from Bobby, they just made those up? I ain’t sayin’ Bobby said it to any of them directly.

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