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DirtyYuni

May 29th, 2009
12:54 am

I know I’ll probably get lanced for saying this. But what would we have to do to get a guy like Hunter Pence? Would Frenchy and Morton get it done? Am I stupid for asking?

Sarge

May 29th, 2009
12:54 am

Generally speaking, baseball players are less manly than football players.

And football players are not as manly as rugby players.

Real men fight in tank battles.

JD

May 29th, 2009
12:55 am

Don’t know if you guys saw SportsCenter, but Garret Anderson was #1 on the top 10 plays.

He got thrown out by Stephen Drew.

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
12:55 am

That June schedule sure is tough. Anybody check that out? The schedule? In June? Of the Braves? Brutal. Steve from OH

Really? Hmm…I hadn’t heard. We playin’ anybody I’ve heard of?

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
12:56 am

DirtyYuni–never. A casual fan can never be able to accurately assess value like a FO man can. You can agree/disagree with a post, and make an argument for it. Just as long as the proposal isn’t absurd, like Frenchy/Morton for Adam Jones or something, it’s ok.

That said, I don’t think that would get it done.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
12:56 am

Steve,

I know Vazquez drives statheads insane. His peripherals are nearly always great. The proof is in the pudding. He has a 4.30 career ERA. His BABIP goes up and down. His won/loss record may not mean as much as Joe Morgan might think, but it’s not as impressive as you think it would be for a guy with the strikeout and WHIP numbers he posts. He’s an enigmatic dude. The only thing that could explain Vazquez not being great is a lack of focus at certain times in ballgames. The lack of focus doesn’t always bite him, but it bites him enough to keep from being an elite pitcher.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
12:56 am

mets fan in atlanta– Norton had a higher OPS than Dobbs as a PH. That’s what I was going by. But you’re right that both of them have struggled so far this year.

What does Bobby call Jordan Shafer?

May 29th, 2009
12:57 am

Shayf?

Jor?

Kid?

Hey you?

JD

May 29th, 2009
12:57 am

Players like Hunter Pence are building blocks for teams. He’s what Jeff Francoeur should be now. No way he’s traded. He’s young, relatively inexpensive, and locked up for awhile.

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
12:57 am

Roman Gal, that wasn’t me but that’s what I’m hearing around these parts from some self-proclaimed Einsteins, so…

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
12:57 am

By the BABIP going up and down comment, I mean that Vazquez isn’t just a victim of bad luck or something.

escobars bat

May 29th, 2009
12:57 am

Damn dude we weren’t even close!open your eyes frenchy!

Falconi

May 29th, 2009
12:58 am

“He’s young, relatively inexpensive, and locked up for awhile.”

No. That’s Michael Vick you’re describing.

JD

May 29th, 2009
12:58 am

Bobby calls Schafer “You’ll get em next time”

JD

May 29th, 2009
12:58 am

Nah, Vick’s only locked up for another month.

JD

May 29th, 2009
12:59 am

I hear he lays a mean brick, though.

Steve from OH

May 29th, 2009
12:59 am

Sure, but he’s been good this year, closer to what his peripherals suggest he would be, and FW did mention that when he discussed that trade when it was made. Call his career bad, but there’s reason to suggest he’d improve. He has, thus far. Call it luck or skill on FW’s part, he made the deal, and (though still too early to evaluate it of course) if bloggers are gonna blast him for not doing this or that or whatever, they should give him props when it’s due. For the package he gave up, I think this deserves props so far.

Experts are overrated

May 29th, 2009
1:00 am

“A casual fan can never be able to accurately assess value like a FO man can.”

That’s why you give your money to an expert like Bernie Madoff.

MFin04

May 29th, 2009
1:01 am

This team makes me sad :(

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:01 am

Steve from OH, another thing I meant to include in my previous post to you about Vazquez being the exception to the rule and always (except for 2007) underperforming his xERA is that the main reason for him doing that is his propensity to give up the big inning. He has a tendency to struggle w/men on base and that’s often when he allows HR–rather than solo HR, they’re multi-run HR.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:02 am

what if molly fetcher would of said yes, we should do this.

who is molly fletcher?

Roman Gal

May 29th, 2009
1:02 am

Steve, hmm…it seems we have a moniker-thief around these parts. Maybe we could get the culprit banned.

…1 down, 10,000 to go.

DirtyYuni

May 29th, 2009
1:02 am

“Players like Hunter Pence are building blocks for teams. He’s what Jeff Francoeur should be now.”
That’s actually a really good point.

And Steve, I appreciate the sentiment.

I’ve actually spent the last few nights scouring other teams’ rosters and trying to figure out how the hell we fix ours. And I’ve got nothing. I envy Wren’s paycheck, but I don’t envy his position right now. Just too many teams still in contention and two gaping holes to fill on our own.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:04 am

what if mcfann had been fancoueur?

think about it on a daily basis.

Frank Wren: front orifice man

May 29th, 2009
1:04 am

“…and two gaping holes to fill on our own.”

Yes. Frank Wren’s corn and pie holes.

JD

May 29th, 2009
1:05 am

what if mcfann had been fancoueur?

Or fanKolb

Brian Francoeur and Jeff McCann

May 29th, 2009
1:06 am

“what if mcfann had been fancoueur?”

what if they had been switched at birth?

braves70

May 29th, 2009
1:08 am

a little about Frank Wren’s firing in Baltimore

In the incident involving Cal Ripken, the Orioles’ chartered jet was waiting to take off for California at 8 a.m. on Sept. 17, when Ripken called saying he was stuck in traffic and would be arriving in the next five to 10 minutes.

“At Wren’s order, the plan[e] took off without Cal, who arrived at the gate a few minutes later. Cal was then forced to make his own cross-country travel arrangements,” Foss said in the release.

” . . . In the opinion of management, there was no need for such an arbitrary and inflexible decision. In the meeting [on Tuesday], Wren defiantly dismissed our concerns [and] characterized them as ’silly.’ . . .

“The Orioles management cannot and will not abide having a general manager operate in such an unreasonable, authoritarian manner and treat anyone in this way, especially someone such as Cal who has done so much for the Orioles and for baseball.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/orioles/daily/oct99/08/os8.htm

Listen

May 29th, 2009
1:08 am

I think Fluffy McNutter is really Bobby Cox!

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:09 am

we got lucky.

molly fletcher, francoeur’s agent in her infinite wisdom thought francoeur should get david wright money and decided to wait a year.

then again she is qualified she played tennis for michigan state, but she is also smoltz’s agent.

TennesseePaul

May 29th, 2009
1:09 am

Maybe I missed it, when did Acosta get called up? I thought he was in the minors all this time…

Frank Wren is an officious tool

May 29th, 2009
1:09 am

I hate that guy!

JD

May 29th, 2009
1:11 am

Fluffy McNutter was blogging during the game. If he was Bobby Cox, that would mean that Bobby doesn’t pay attention.

Oh wait…

Rock on

May 29th, 2009
1:11 am

Molly Fletcher was a Southern Rock band from the seventies.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:12 am

What does Molly Fletcher look like? She hot?

Brad Pitts to the Chesty

May 29th, 2009
1:13 am

“What does Molly Fletcher look like? She hot?”

She has good peripherals.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:13 am

TennPaul,

Acosta was called up so kirkinga get a rise in his Levi’s. Also, Parr had thrown too many pitches (91 or something…during Medlen’s first start) in a relief outing. They needed someone who could pitch out of the pen the next day.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:14 am

She make you want to reach out and grab her peripherals, Brad?

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:17 am

BTW, I found a pic of Molly Fletcher. I’d have to strongly disagree with Brad regarding Molly’s peripherals. http://www.mollyfletcher.com/

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:17 am

so all of us got lucky, we have a agent that represents francoeur that did us a favor and we gained the most loyal player fan i have ever seen.

mcfann, i mean that as a complement.

pretty sure that old thristy horse agrees.

TennesseePaul

May 29th, 2009
1:17 am

Was this today? Who went down?

Francoeur totally looked bummed out there today. I could see he was trying, but watching him in between innings, he just seemed defeated in a way. Not that he’d given up, but… I don’t know, just not happy about it all.

I hate his foot tap. I thought Rudy banished that thing anyway.

TnBrian

May 29th, 2009
1:19 am

braves70, you’re about a year to late on “wren’s firing in Baltimore”. We’ve read that at least ten seperate times on this blog.

DOB, I’m with ya bro. I feel so bad for Jeff, especially watching Jerome J. interview him before the game tonight. He looked like he seriously needed a hug. I truly believe it’s time to leave the guy alone. And DOB, you may not agree with me on this but Bobby should be ashamed running him out there to get humiliated. I realize that’s not Bobby’s intention whatsoever, but it’s obvious JF needs a breather right now. I’d just let Diaz take RF for a few games and let JF get away for little bit. My God, I’ve been through a lot in my short life and know that us human beings need to clear our minds sometimes. I think JF is a very good person and wish him the best, always!

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:19 am

Paul, Acosta was recalled when Buddy Carlyle went on the DL a couple days ago.

Sarge

May 29th, 2009
1:20 am

Molly Fletcher looks more manly than half the Braves.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:21 am

Oh, yeah. Carlyle got hurt. Nevermind.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:22 am

Wait. That’s not right. Campillo was called up for Carlyle.

Frank Wren: not ready for prime time

May 29th, 2009
1:23 am

“…you’re about a year to late on “wren’s firing in Baltimore”. We’ve read that at least ten seperate times on this blog.”

But we’re waiting for the made-for-TV movie.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:23 am

I had it right the first time.

JD

May 29th, 2009
1:24 am

So I just found this odd picture of Brian McCann….

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTb_lTcR9KZTUBfZmjzbkF/SIG=12nfd8li7/EXP=1243661011/**http%3A//www.radiocult.com/images/celebrities/bravesbrianmccann01.jpg

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:24 am

Yeah, you’re right, Chop. Acosta for Parr and Campillo for Carlyle.

JD

May 29th, 2009
1:25 am

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
1:27 am

Any talk of the job, or lack thereof, Pendelton has done since he’s been the hitting coach for this team? — JukeandJive

Honestly, I hear more talk about Pendleton here on the blog in one day probably than i do in talking to players, coaches, scouts or front-office officials with the Braves and all other teams combined in the course of a full season, including spring training. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that.

I don’t think most people see the problems that certain hitters on this team have had as being caused by or exacerbated by Pendleton. At least I don’t hear anyone saying that.

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
1:28 am

Generally speaking, baseball players are less manly than football players.

And football players are not as manly as rugby players.

Real men fight in tank battles. — Sarge

Come on, Sarge. You should know that real men fight with bayonets and hand-to-hand combat.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:30 am

In case you missed the Spelling Bee earlier tonight, here’s a pic of Erin Andrews talking to some kid. Note the look on the kid’s face… http://deadspin.com/photogallery/spellingbee09/1008470387

Tomahawkin

May 29th, 2009
1:30 am

I’m Gonna Bring Up the Trade for Shane Victorino Bandwagon…!

Who’s On Board The HOOOOOOTRAIIIINNNNNNN?????

We need a Centerfielder, We Need a Leadoff Hitter, We Need More Spped…Shane Victorino Fits All Needs!!!!

Plus I love his grittyness, and his GO-ALL-OUT attitude which is what this team needs BAD!

Philly Needs some Pitching, Myers is Hurt… Trade Anyone other than our top 3 and Hanson…

Even though trades amongst rivals is rare, especially during the season but Something needs to be done NOW!!!

Thoughts…?

Including D.O.B.

TnBrian

May 29th, 2009
1:31 am

Jeff’s struggles remind me a little of when Dion Sanders K’d like every other at bat…remember that? Now, you’re talking about two completely different personalities and I would proudly boo a arrogant, selfish prick like Dion was then, but JF is totally opposite and people, including myself sometimes, need to realize he’s only 25 and might have something wrong upstairs that isn’t his fault. And he’s clearly just a piece of what’s wrong with this team…big piece, little piece, that’s anybody’s opinion.

braves70

May 29th, 2009
1:33 am

I loved Deion. He was one of the most clutch hitters we had. He was a winner. Francoeur is a loser in my book.

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
1:34 am

Francoeur, Diory and Schafer all strike out with two runners on in the second inning, and end up a combined 0-for-10 with six srikeouts on the night.

Schafer’s down to .205 now, with 59 strikeouts and a .612 OPS in 156 at-bats.

Francoeur is down to .247 with a .269 OBP and a .615 OPS.

Garret Anderson is hitting .266 with a .617 OPS.

That’s three starting outfielders who have an OPS between .612 and .617 more than a quarter of the way into the season. On the same team. I didn’t think that was possible.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:35 am

Tomahawkin, the Phillies aren’t gonna trade Victorino. They most definitely need pitching help, but why would they weaken their current roster to get it? It wouldn’t make a bit of sense from their perspective. They’ll trade prospects to upgrade their pitching, not key everyday players.

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:36 am

I can’t feel bad for Francoeur now. To me, it would be kinda like me feeling bad for a crappy rock band that is getting paid good money despite the fact that it reeks like all hell. I just can’t do it.

David O'Brien

May 29th, 2009
1:36 am

Meanwhile, the catcher who had all the vision problems, who had a stint on the 15-day DL and had to start wearing glasses to hit in the middle of the season — wearing glasses to hit or the first time in his life — is batting .317 with a .932 OPS.

TnBrian

May 29th, 2009
1:37 am

braves70, well, Bobby didn’t and I heard a lot of the players didn’t either. That was so long ago that I can’t remember too much on details but I knew he missed a playoff game for something. Correct me if I’m wrong. That’s cool you liked him though.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:38 am

tennpaul,

all kidding aside. i called this two years ago. major mechanic problems that wont last in the league.

certain guys can overcome it, certain cant.

i still am not sure on which side he will fall.

failure sucks. for most of us in happens early.

not for him. won everything at parkview.

first round draft pick. homerun in his first game. cover of sports illustrated.

failure is not the right word. he has had more success under his right fingernail then many of us will ever experience.

the right word is humility.

the braves organization has given him more chances then anyone else would of.

there is no shame in going down to aaa and working things out.

that tirade last year sealed his fate. gotta wonder who his advisors are.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:38 am

braves70, without even getting into the fallacy that Deion was clutch (.732 career OPS w/RISP), it’s ridiculous to call Francoeur a loser. Sure, he’s not playing well, but calling him a loser? That’s probably says more about you than it does him.

Sarge

May 29th, 2009
1:40 am

Pound for pound, Shane Victorino is one of the manliest men in baseball.

Coach (Moon Pie, anyone?)

May 29th, 2009
1:41 am

Hey, I didn’t think it was possible for this team to finish with a losing record. But I’m beginning to reassess the possibility.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:44 am

dob,

you are in scottsdale right?

stayed at the marriot suites, for the dawgs arizonia state game.

right across the street from old town.

there is a boardeline biker landmark, called the rusty spur there.

total dive but live music, mostly cover but fun.

Tomahawkin

May 29th, 2009
1:44 am

Fluffy McNutter

Would the Phillies even trade Jason Werth…

Philly fans want ot get rid of him and he still has potential, Plus he has speed….

Whaddya you guys think…?

Chop Chop

May 29th, 2009
1:47 am

Tomahawkin,

The odds of the Braves and Phillies making a trade are zero.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:48 am

I don’t see why they’d trade Werth either. Where did you hear that they want to get rid of Werth? Seems silly since he’s one of their most productive OF. I could see them using John Mayberry as part of a deal to bring in pitching help.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
1:48 am

chop chop,

a braveheart moment for j.f. mercy, mercy, mercy.

i listened to the day crew destroy him on 790 today.

even i can see it aint effort.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
1:50 am

Meant to say Werth is one of their most productive “hitters” not “OF.”

JD

May 29th, 2009
1:54 am

Philly trading Victorino is like the Braves trading McCann.

Jason

May 29th, 2009
1:56 am

Why didn’t Braves call up hot slugger-Barbaro Rafael Canizares?
.337/7HRs/30 RBIs
Like Norton, he did not field.
Canizares will be the protential good PH and back up 1st baseman.

Tomahawkin

May 29th, 2009
1:56 am

Chop Chop…

Yea I know about how odd the chances are but I’ve gotten tired of the previous trade talk…

And I was putting into perspective that no one thought the Millwood to philly deal would happen in that offseason, so anything in possible

Jerry McManus

May 29th, 2009
1:58 am

This is a sorry team. Other than Chipper and McCann no one on this team could make the starting team on a major league team. This is a team of tenth and eleventh player players.

Tomahawkin

May 29th, 2009
1:59 am

Fluffy McNutter here’s the link

http://forums.philly.com/kr-phillies/start/

Phillies fans are sick of Werth and want pitching bad!

Tomahawkin

May 29th, 2009
2:05 am

Aight You guys I’m gonna chill out to some old Sade (Old R&B For people who don’t know nothing about smooth R&B)

Catch up with you peeps tomorrow…

D.O.B. Have Fun out there at the Paris Hilton Clubs in Phoenix, I wish I was there…

Oh yea D.O.B.

Are you Not a Fan Of Old Bone Thugs N Harmony…?

It’s good Rap just like old Outkast was….

N8

May 29th, 2009
2:06 am

“I don’t think most people see the problems that certain hitters on this team have had as being caused by or exacerbated by Pendleton. At least I don’t hear anyone saying that.” DOB

I guess I’ve never accused TP of “causing” anybody’s problems. Just been more curious as to why or how he can’t occasionally “fix” some of them.

Then again. For all I know, Francoeur would be REALLY bad without TP, right?

“That’s three starting outfielders who have an OPS between .612 and .617 more than a quarter of the way into the season. On the same team. I didn’t think that was possible.” DOB

That’s what you get when you spend all that money on pitching, go shopping at the bargain bin for your LF, give the CF job to a kid with very little AAA experience, and count on a guy with one of the worst approaches at the plate in both leagues to “rebound”.

I’m not trying to be a smartass, and I really thought that Jeff couldn’t get any worse than last year, Schafer was more ready than he is, and Garret had a little more left in the tank than he does.

But I’m just a blogger. These strange guys swinging at a ball with clubs frighten me.

Fluffy McNutter

May 29th, 2009
2:11 am

Tomahawkin, I have no idea why the Philly fans would want to run Werth out of town. He’s been very productive for them. Even if the fans want him gone, I don’t see why Phillies management would share that view. When you’re trying to bolster your team for a possible playoff run, you don’t subtract a key member from your team to do it. You trade prospects and that’s why I think John Mayberry would be a logical choice for trade bait from Philly’s perspective. He’s a 25-year-old who still has a work to do on his offensive game and his speed is average-slightly below average. With Victorino unable to become a free agent until 2012, Ibanez signed to that huge contract through 2011 and Werth signed through 2010, there’s no place for Mayberry to play, barring injury to their current OF, until 2011 at the earliest. By then, Mayberry would be 27 years old. Using Mayberry as trade bait makes a ton of sense for them. Trading one of their current starting OF does not.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
2:15 am

DOB,

this is the delta tau chi pledge class?

DEAN WREN’S office.

Mr. Anderson, congratulations you are at the head of the delta tau chi pledge class, with a .617 .ops. GA: I know sir. our mid terms are slightly less then expected.

DEAN WREN: jeff flounceor, .615 .ops, son hubris and lack of humility is no way to go through life.

DEAN WREN: jordan schafer, has no .ops all strikeouts.

i cant believe i threw up in DEAN WREN’s office.

face it floundceour you threw up on DEAN WREN.

toga

JD

May 29th, 2009
2:18 am

I don’t think most people see the problems that certain hitters on this team have had as being caused by or exacerbated by Pendleton. At least I don’t hear anyone saying that.

DOB – Can you give any insight as to how Pendleton is handling Schafer and Francoeur’s struggles?

We give him a lot of flack on this blog because we see players who have previously had success struggle for extended periods of time (Andruw, Francoeur, Kelly, etc). We also hear about players turning to other sources, but not to TP. Like Francoeur actually going to another team’s hitting coach, Andruw succeeding under that same coach, McCann and other players learning from Chipper, Chipper going to his dad, etc. It seems like we’ve been hearing the same song over and over for years.

JD

May 29th, 2009
2:20 am

uga brave – ……what??

JD

May 29th, 2009
2:28 am

For all I know, Francoeur would be REALLY bad without TP, right? N8

There’s a thought. Maybe TP is a mastermind and his players are just naturally awful. Without TP:

-Chipper wins the Mendoza award last season. He also can’t switch hit.
-Jordan Schafer is the first player to strikeout 100 times in a month.
-Brian McCann doesn’t have a beard.
-Jeff Francoeur is the first player in major league history to actually have a negative batting average.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
2:29 am

kelly johnson’s comment’s,

“i was trying to make the best play possible, whether that was at first or second,”

“you gotta give them credit, they had guys on base and did not miss.”

well gotta love a guy that is honest, and touches cloth in major situations.

uga-brave

May 29th, 2009
2:34 am

jd,

if you dont know old movies you well…

MontanaBravo

May 29th, 2009
2:44 am

Judging by the pitching of the Phils and Mets, I think the Braves can stay in the hunt for this thing.
Having said that, if Wren does make a move do we look for going for it this year or look to the future too?
I feel bad for Frenchy but sadly believe that he is done. Put a fork in him he was done in by the SI jinx. I’m not sure if he has any value at this point. I hope Jordan will a fixture in CF. He is a defensive whiz and a pleasure to watch – of course so was Langerhans once. Hopefully he will just keep getting better.

Back on the whole trade for an offensive force (and I don’t mean offensive as to anyones sensabilities). We have “some” pitching to deal: Reyes, Morton, Campillo, Acosta – nothing special about any of them. We should trade them now when they have some worth. I’ve read that the Marlins are tired of Hermida, any possibility of bringing him back home to Atlanta. Holliday would be awesome but he is a Boras guy and if it could be avoided the Braves should never ever deal with him again. Do you think that Huff or Roberts can be had with a good package from the Orioles? Maybe Huff can still play some LF or RF. Roberts would be great leadership and leadoff until someone else is ready. KJ can move back to the OF. The Twins have a crowded OF with Gomez and Span competing for ABs but I can’t see them wanting anyone from our farm that they can’t get from theirs. I think the Rox will want way too much for Hawpe.

Rose colored glasses from the Rocky mountains in spring: I think that the Braves starting pitching can keep them in contention this year. Huddy/Hanson/Glavine avail soon – whoo hoo! Our kingdom for a bat.

Scotty

May 29th, 2009
3:24 am

We suck. The end.

DirtyDawg

May 29th, 2009
4:13 am

I managed to avoid my usual outrage over tonight’s loss…I didn’t watch it and didn’t TIVO it. Saw the score on ESPN and their ‘highlight’ piece – or in our case the lowlights – and witnessed the utter frustration on Lowe’s face following KJ’s error. We talk about KK, and JoJO, and what are we gonna do with Glavine, and for what? It ain’t the pitching – at least not the starters – and any conversation about this team begins and ends with a lousy offense.

We’ve go so many holes that it’s ridiculous to think we can fix ‘em with trades. Plus, our track record on trades of desperation lately doesn’t give me any confidence at all. I say bring up every top prospect, at any level, and give ‘em a month. If we catch lightening in a bottle, great…if not then what have we lost? This business of bringing people up too soon and ruining their careers is BS to me. Tell ‘em up front, don’t worry if you fail, we’re with you. If for any reason you have to go back down it’s no big deal – we’ll just fit you back into the development schedule we had you on.

The way things are going, my guess is that the only Braves player(s) that’ll be on the all-star team will be a pitcher, or perhaps pitchers. Not a single position player – not McCann, not Jones, not anybody. Bring the kids up and give us something to look forward to…the excitement of these young guys going hell-for-leather for a month or so and see what happens.

And finally, Bobby, as much as I respect him, has got to be tired of this mess. Yeah, he still does his ‘chatter’ thing when we’re at bat, but when was the last time you saw him charge out to criticize a call, let alone get thrown out of a game. Bobby, you’ve got to overcome this lethargy and depression if you expect things to change.

Mitch

May 29th, 2009
4:14 am

After watching nearly every inning of the games at home during the last homestand, I find myself turning the TV off early this week. Four in a row is getting ugly. Yes, we know this is the difficult West Coast, but San Francisco and Arizona are not.. the Dodgers.

I really.. really hope we win some games this weekend. (At least a split, hopefully, so we dont go home 0-7. We have another stretch of many home games after this road trip. Hopefully things will pick up, and our guys will get healthy.

I’m glad Glav’s rehab start went well last night. We need him. Hopefully Bobby will feel Tommy only needs one more rehab start before he’s ready to join us. 43 and coming off surgery or not, I will feel a lot better trotting Tommy Glavine, 305 game winner out there, than Kris Medlen.

Mitch

Bobby's Cox

May 29th, 2009
4:40 am

uga,

great post at 1:38.

Btw, what was that oil stock you told us all to buy a few weeks back?

Kevin

May 29th, 2009
4:45 am

Braves lose lose way to go Bobby cox n friends oh Mike wren said we got lowe to contend u mean pretend n challebge washington for last place….I hope lowe has a clause states he can opt out n go elsewhere to pitch Now!

Bravo Nam

May 29th, 2009
5:57 am

DOB

Great song choice. Like Glen Campbell’s version the best…incredibly moving.

BATS

The Bravos can’t wait for Infante to get back, for Chipper to get better, for Yunel to return, for Frenchie and Schafer to get their acts together. A combination of trades, demotion to AAA and a severe kick up the ar*e from our man Bobby has gotta start now. This current hitting line-up wouldn’t scare a team of gals from an Arizona nursing home net alone the DBacks.

theriddler

May 29th, 2009
5:59 am

Went to the GBraves game yesterday. Other than Hanson/Glavine and maybe a DH the cupboards bare at AAA.

#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)

May 29th, 2009
6:03 am

3.5 games out and counting. Hey, it’s only May……Right?

ncgary

May 29th, 2009
6:20 am

ralph garr was a pretty good leadoff hitter, so i guess 34 years ago to whoever asked when was the last time we had a good leadoff hitter, unfortunately back then he was the only decent hitter on the team

Braveheart

May 29th, 2009
6:29 am

51-67 with the Rally Turtle. The rally turtle sucks more than Francoeur.

Bill M.

May 29th, 2009
6:31 am

One bat will make no difference with this team. They are like dead fish, no life. If they continue down this path, they will be sellers at deadline. I think there will be a shakeup very soon. Cox should retire after this season and fire the whole coaching staff. Wren’s hands are tied with no funds. This team is going nowhere until it is sold.

tootle loo

May 29th, 2009
6:57 am

Send Frenchy, Kelly Johnson, and JoJo Reyes to Houston for Hunter Pence and a minor league reliever. If Houston wants more, then give them Morton instead of JoJo or (gulp) Medlen if we can add Keppinger (utility guy/solid bat)

The lineup will be better with both Prado and Pence in it everyday. This lineup needs some guys that hit for average on a consistent basis and that make pitchers work. Do that, then just watch the power numbers soar from Chipper, Mac, and Kotch.

Pence can even play center for the time being. Then we can call up B Jones for RF and send Schafer down for more seasoning. If Brandon produces then we can ship him later to restock on pitching if and when Schafer adjusts. We can then get our power bat in the offseason, or just settle with Diaz until Heyward is ready.

Pence is the perfect fit. Boston doesn’t need anything they already have and I don’t see them giving us anything for Frenchy unless we pack a guy like KJ, but they already have Pedroia. They’re sure as hell ain’t giving us their pitching prospects for French, and I don’t want Kotsay or JD Drew back.

Houston could use a 2nd baseman and pitching, and we could lose a left handed bat. Makes sense for me on all sides of the ball. There’s no way we’re gonna get a power bat this early in the year and by only giving up Frenchy and not Hanson or Medlen. A smaller, .300 bat that steals bases is what we need, and all we can get right now. You replace Schafer and frenchy’s K’s with RISP, as well as KJ’s streaks, and just think of how many games we’d be in 1st by.

Braveheart

May 29th, 2009
6:57 am

Wellman needs to launch a grenade into the dugout. That would be the manly thing to do.

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