Trade for bat might require patience
San Francisco — While trade proposals ranging from the plausible to the utterly absurd continue to hum here on the ol’ Braves/MIB blog, the fact of the matter is, it’s probably going to be a while before any deal gets done, at least in terms of a significant deal, i.e. a power-hitting outfielder.
Friends, countrymen, denizens, newcomers, and everyone in-between: It’s still May. If you’ve followed baseball for very long, try to remember how many big trades have been made in May. Or in June, for that matter.
While I know that it doesn’t suit the timetable of many concerned and/or impatient fans, the fact is, this is the way it’s done in baseball. There are more than two months until the non-waiver trade deadline, and there are only a handful or so teams that are clearly out of any sort of playoff contention, and most or them aren’t ready to publicly wave the white flag of surrender and start trading away big bats or power arms or whatever else is highly sought by contenders or teams that fancy themselves as such.
I know, I can hear some of you now: “But if the Braves wait until July 31, they’ll be out of it.”
I’m not suggesting they wait that long. I’m with you on them probably needing to make a move for a bat, preferably yesterday. All I’m telling you is, the way things are done in baseball is that non-contending teams with big pieces, usually guys in their free-agent walk years like Matt Holliday, are not likely to move those players until the market shapes up, until they see what is offered by a handful of teams, play those offers against each another, raise the ante, etc. That might be early July, at least.
And even if some fans believe this team or that team is out of it and has nothing to gain by keeping a player, perhaps that team’s owner doesn’t view things the way you do. In other words, maybe he’s looking at things like keeping up at least the appearance of trying to be competitive so that he can keep selling tickets and hot dogs and beer well into the summer months.
Those of you suggesting that, say, the Padres trade their most attractive player, Adrian Gonzalez. Beyond the fact that he’s signed to a club-friendly multi-year contract and has become the face of their franchise (in an area with hundreds of thousands of Mexican-American fans), what about the simple fact that the Padres just reeled off a 10-game winning streak to get back to .500? Yes, this would be a great time to start selling your best players.
(I should add, by no stretch of the imagination do I think the Braves are going to try to trade for Adrian Gonzalez, nor do I believe the Padres would seriously consider trading him in the near future. I was just using an example, a player sometimes mentioned here by trade-happy fans.)
Again: It’s early. The Padres couldn’t lose for nearly two weeks, and the Blue Jays, who got off to a blazing start and had the AL’s best record, suddenly haven’t been able to win in more than a week.
Things happen.
It’s early, despite protestations to the contrary by some here on the blog. We’re 45 games games into a 162-game season, and 65 days away from the trade deadline. Just because the Braves would like to add a bat, or just because their fans would really, really like for them to add a bat, doesn’t mean that others in baseball are going to agree that it’s time to speed up the timetable on the way things have been done for a long time.
Also, it’s impossible not to notice the disparate points of view by the fan base, as expressed here by so many of our regulars and others on a daily basis.
On the one side, you have those who say the Braves should never, ever make another deal for a rental player like Mark Teixeira or J.D. Drew. On the other side, you have those who say the Braves should move heaven and earth to get a big bat in here right away, before the season is lost.
(Kind of like how we have so many on the blog saying how the Braves rushed Jordan Schafer to the majors, and did the same to Joey Devine, even as so many others are urging that the Braves rush Jason Heyward and/or Gorkys Hernandez to the majors right now, despite the fact that Heyward hasn’t played above A-ball yet and Hernandez has less than one-third of one season above A-ball.)
Anyway, back to the split opinion on trading prospects for impact players.
There are plenty commenting here who are in the middle, who somehow believe that, say, the aforementioned Oakland A’s are going to move Holliday for merely expendable pieces in the Braves’ system, your second-tier prospects not named Hanson or Heyward, with perhaps a mediocre player from the major league Brave thrown in, preferably one that that half the folks here rip on a nightly basis.
Yeah, that oughta do it. Call Billy Beane now, explain to him that his team is out of it and there’s really no sense in waiting to see if other tams might make better offers for Holliday in July than the Braves are willing to give him now.
”What’s that, Billy? Hanson or Heyward? No way, man. Come on, work with us. We’re trying to win now AND in the future. How ‘bout a Redmond and, oh, a Brandon — Hicks or Jones, take your pick. That do it? No?”
Everybody, it’s early. At least in terms of making big-time trades.
♣ Speaking of patience: We also have plenty who won’t accept that there are any valid reasons for not bringing Tommy Hanson up last week (or sooner), nevermind that Kris Medlen actually had not just a better ERA but a better WHIP (walks plus hits per innigs pitched) than Hanson at Triple-A Gwinnett.
But even if you don’t believe that Medlen deserved to come up ahead of Hanson, or if you don’t undestand why the Braves didn’t want to bring up the No. 1 prospect (Hanson) and have him make only one or two starts before Tom Glavine is potentially activated from the DL and they would have to make room by bumping Hanson back to Triple-A.
Even if you don’t get or buy any of that, do some here not understand that it made a whole of financial sense to wait a little longer to bring up Hanson?
Because by waiting until now, the Braves might have saved not just millions of dollars down the road, but also might actually have allowed themselves to keep Hanson for an additional year, in the event that he eventually becomes to expensive to keep.
That’s right, by waiting and having Medlen make two (or maybe three or more) starts in the No. 5 spot now, instead of having Hanson make those starts, the Braves might have bought themselves another entire season of Hanson’s services.
That’s because we’re only now at the point of the season when the Braves could call Hanson up and not run the risk of him becoming a “Super Two” arbitration-eligible player after the 2011 season.
If they bring him up now, and he stays on the roster going forward, Hanson would not be eligible for arbitration until after the 2012 season.
In brief, Super Two arb-eligibles are those in the top 17 percent of service time under the three years that’s otherwise required for first-time arbitration eligibility. If Hanson had come up a couple of weeks ago, there’s a real good chance he’d accumulate enough service time to fall into that group, and provided he had at least 86 days of service time in 2011, he’d have been eligible for a huge raise as an arb-eligible player after that season.
That would mean he’d be eligible for arbitration four times before he hit free agency. That extra year of arbitration shoots a player’s salary into the stratosphere a year earlier than it would otherwise, and for a player expected to be as impactful as a Hanson, it could well make the difference in a team being able to afford to keep him in his final year or two of arbitration, if they don’t sign him to a long-term deal before then.
Would it really have been worth it for the Braves to bring him up to make these past two starts instead of Medlen? Keeping in mind, too, that Medlen’s numbers, as we’ve said many times, were actually better overall than Hanson’s at the time when Medlen was brought up.
♥ OK, gotta get to the ballpark. Saw a girl wearing a cool Pixies T-shirt today on Market Street. So let’s take this out with one that mighty band performed on their final album, but which was actually a cover of a tune by the also-great band Jesus & Mary Chain.
The Pixies, a long time ago
“HEAD ON” by Jim Reid & William Reid
As soon as I get my head around you
I come around catching sparks off you
I get an electric shock from you
This secondhand living just won’t do
And the way I feel tonight
I could die and I wouldn’t mind
And there’s something going on inside
Makes you wanna feel
Makes you wanna try
Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky
And I can’t stand up
I can’t cool down
I can’t get my head off the ground
As soon as I get my head around you
I come around catching sparks off you
And all I ever got from you
Was all I ever took from you
Yeah, the world could die in pain
And I wouldn’t feel no shame
And there’s nothing holding me to blame
Makes you wanna feel
Makes you wanna try
Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky
And I’m taking myself to a dirty part of town
Where all my troubles can’t be found
I said yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
And I’m taking myself to a dirty part of town
Where all my troubles can’t be found
Makes you wanna feel
Makes you wanna try
Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky
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oh SNAP!
May 27th, 2009
5:39 pm
Wow Salty, Andrus, and Tex are are the 1st AL All-Star voting updates. You can tell none of them would have been voted for had they played for Atlanta. The fact that Andrus is on the AL but Escobar not on the NL. And Tex was good last year.
Bobby's Cox
May 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
watched Francoeur closely in BP, last night. The bat drags…in BP…DRAGS, is slow, can’t catch up, the barrel of the bat consistently approaches the ball from below.Bay Area
Exactly what i’ve been saying since last year…Frenchy’s bat is too slow to make it in the bigs. God honest truth.
It’s ok for him to start his swing early in AA, & it was early in his career when guys didn’t know how to pitch to him, but when pitchers adjusted, the results have been no fluke.
Jaramillo did things to get frenchy’s body out of the way before the pitcher even release the ball. Why would he do that? Because Frenchy’s bat speed is just too damn friggin’ slow. If you’ve already taken your strike before the pitcher releases the ball and gotten your hands in position to swing without recognizing the pitch, well, you’ve just become a singles hitter.
Frenchy is toast in this league.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
5:41 pm
McFann
I know they are in different leagues, but Salty has more votes than McCann…OUCH!
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
5:42 pm
“Trade for bat might require patience”
Dude, that is the wrong thing to require.
Johnny Come Lately
May 27th, 2009
5:44 pm
Who is this “Shaun” character, and why in the heck does he insist on annoying the crap out of everybody?
brian
May 27th, 2009
5:44 pm
I would be shocked if the Red Sox are seriously interested in Frenchy. Maybe Jeff’s friend John Smoltz is campaigning for him. I don’t know. I would imagine the Braves would be thrilled to take a pitching prospect from the Red Sox – Daniel Bard but more likely Bryan Price, but then we are still stuck with needing to replace Francoeur. We could go the Brandon Jones route but again that is unproven. If we could actually get a few prospects for Francoeur then we could trade some prospects for someone like Cruz at Texas
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
5:49 pm
On the possibility of Francoeur to the Red Sox:
I see the “need”. They probably seek some J.D. Drew/Baldelli/Kotsay insurance. And Francoeur is seemingly available. I just don’t get it. Why would they want Francoeur, of all people? Defense, maybe? They could get a guy like Josh Willingham or someone of the like, someone much more compatible with their style of play, for a similar price. I don’t know. All this speculation is probably nothing. And I still think I’m either crazy or Francoeur going to the Red Sox is insane.
brian
May 27th, 2009
5:49 pm
I completely agree that rushing Jason Heyward would be a big mistake (no Duh I know). He is going to be special. Watching him in action last Friday I was most impressed. He is taller than you would think. Patient at the plate. Hit a nice homerun to left-center and also stole a base. He was on base numerous times. I was also impressed with Freeman (nice defense at 1B, also on base multiple times), Cody Johnson (1st plate appearance was Frenchy like but otherwise patient at the plate, on base many times, and hit a monster HR to center – had to be 450 feet), and Cole Rohrbough (a little wild, especially in the 2nd I believe but otherwise very solid). I do not like Schafer being thrown under a bus but we really have no other option unless they feel that Gorkys could handle it better than Schafer. We traded our fall back option in Josh Anderson.
cvbraves
May 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
DOB: Thanks for the being the voice of reason. I was getting a headache with all the trade talk. Depend on you to let us know when something is in the wind…or a deal is done!
Give Me A Break
May 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
Shaun, I’m sure you’ll follow to the new blog so I’ll continue here as well. You said,
“For example, look at McCann versus Francoeur. On the surface Francoeur looked like the better player. But dig a little deeper and you see that Francoeur’s K/BB ratio was extremely troubling (264/89). That indicates that major league pitchers could probably carve him up and that’s what’s happening.
McCann’s K/BB was 93/178. McCann’s power numbers weren’t far off from Francoeur’s. Not saying anyone should have predicted McCann would become a superstar but the numbers were reliable for telling us a great deal; not everything but they certainly could have told us a lot.”
Shaun, I’m not the stat head you are. I do know from my Stat classes in my college days that numbers can be twisted to show anything you want them to show if you so desire. Mean, median and mode if you will. I’m not saying you are twisting numbers at all. What I’m saying is that your response to anything that flies in the face of what the numbers say is to simply say that if we look at another set of numbers, we would have seen the future in THOSE numbers!
Spoken like a true stathead. But that’s ok. Baseball needs statheads too.
Bobby's Cox
May 27th, 2009
5:54 pm
Nice blog DOB. Those trade scenarios posted on here are ludicrous. We’re not going to get a big bat unless we give up something big. Our best trade piece will be Kelly Johnson, especially if his hitting picks up. I posted a few players here yesterday. They’re not huge power bats, but smaller bats that are better than what we’ve got. The names were Randy Winn (if SF eats some salary), Jake Fox, Ben Zobrist, Shin-Soo Choo, and Hunter Pence.
Some of those are probably unlikely, but if the Braves are desperate for a bat now, then I think that’ll be the best crop they’ll be able to get. SF would have to eat a lot of Winn’s salary, Fox is a big prospect w/o a position to play in Chicago, Pence is having a good year.etc.. Again, these options are a helluva lot cheaper in terms of salary and prospects that what others are suggesting, and are could probably be moved sooner, if again the braves were desperate for a deal now.
Hurricane Corky
May 27th, 2009
5:54 pm
DOB — do the Braves even have the budget room to take on any extra salary (like Holiday’s $13.5M, for instance)? I would assume that in order to get another team to eat a large portion of a departing player’s contract the prospect headed back would have be on the level of Hanson or Heyward. I just don’t see Frank Wren making that move as much of the rotation is under contract for next season. Infante’s injury seems to take away an flexibility the Braves have had in drawing up a lineup card.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
5:54 pm
DOB, you are spot-on, but dang it, did you have to say it?!!?!
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
By the way, I like the blog a lot, DOB.
c jonze
May 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
DOB
What exactly are Mexicican-American fans?
Do the Braves have any?
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
5:56 pm
Chop Chop: Don’t know what to tell you, then. Dude.
Bobby's Cox
May 27th, 2009
5:56 pm
Shaun needs to fixate his eyes on ballgames more and a little less on the stat books.
keylargo
May 27th, 2009
5:57 pm
Because by waiting until now, the Braves might have saved not just millions of dollars down the road, but also might actually have allowed themselves to keep Hanson for an additional year, in the event that he eventually becomes to expensive to keep.
That’s right, by waiting and having Medlen make two (or maybe three or more) starts in the No. 5 spot now, instead of having Hanson make those starts, the Braves might have bought themselves another entire season of Hanson’s services. DOB
The money saved on salary and extra year of Hanson’s service (in 2015) will be well worth the wait if Hanson continues to develop as the Braves hope. He will be in his late twenties as opposed to 23 now. Great pitchers, unless arm trouble interrupt, are at their peak in their late twenties. So by not rushing Hanson up we will get another year of a possible true ace in 2015 instead of a year of an unpredictable 23 year old rookie in 2009.
brian
May 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
if the Braves can keep their place in the standings they may sit tight until Omar returns and play him in CF. I agree that our best trade piece will be Kelly though we would love somebody to get infatuated with Francoeur. Morton or Medlen may also be moved. JoJo probably has lost any trade value (maybe he should have been dealt instead of Matt Harrison – shows what we know as everybody here, myself included, had a hissy fit thinking the Braves may include JoJo instead of Harrison – to think that the Braves decided that Harrison’s mental make up would hold him back is ironic for Mr. AAAA pitcher)
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
Craig Kimbrel is dominating the Sally League (again). Why is he skurrd of the Carolina League? Did anyone tell him that the park in Myrtle Beach is bigger?
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
5:59 pm
BA Steve-
After reading your post and providing my own assessment on Jeffy, do you notice what else I notice?
His balance may be the worst I’ve EVER seen, and that includes Andruw Jones circa 2007.
I notice that his bottom half (or backside if you will) finds itself somewhere near the 3b dugout while at the same time his hands are trying to go somewhere toward 1b….
Point here is that his balance is so bad and he is so off kilter w/ his entire body that this is the reason there really is no power in his swing unless you pitch it right into a perfect zone, or as they used to say, hit his bat for him.
Rob from SC
May 27th, 2009
5:59 pm
DOB
any hope of Hanson on Sunday
Jeff Failcoeur
May 27th, 2009
5:59 pm
I can’t understand why everyone wants to see me traded… It’s not my fault that Bobby is making me hit 7th with Schafer behind me. Of course I’m not going to get anything to hit.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
Brian-
I’m not certain JoJo and Jeffy combined in a trade could fetch a 6-pack of Natty Light at this point in time…
ArkyTech
May 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
Josh Anderson with 4 hits and his 10th stolen base today. Avg back over .300…..
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
Anyone else see Richard Sullivan threw a CG Shutout for Myrtle Beach today? http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090527&content_id=4989162&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
6:01 pm
Wonder if this one of the guys Schafer was associated with. The bust is only 17 miles from where he lived. Makes ya wonder????
http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2009/5/27/477398.html?title=Accused+steroid+dealer+says+he+sold+to+pro+athletes
Depressed In Wisconsin
May 27th, 2009
6:02 pm
I know its the norm” for teams to wait until closer to the trade deadline to make a big trade, but for teams that could be in first with a little more power like the Braves, doesn’t it make sense to make a trade right about now? It sure would be nice to see this team putting up big hits every night. People here say that KJ is streaky, well the Braves W-L record is just as streaky. They sweep the team with the best record in the AL at the time, and now they are on the verge of being swept by the Giants.
Just one very good hitter at this point could determine if we are playing in October or not. With the Mets having so many issues staying healthy, it would be nice to take advantage of their ailments right now. Now I like Francouer as a person, but I believe that it would be in both sides best interest for him to go to another team. I don’t if the pressure is to much or what, but he is not producing like he should be. Being labeled ” The Natural” on the cover of SI may have been to much for him to handle. We need to do something and fast if we are to salvage this season. JMO..
c jonze
May 27th, 2009
6:02 pm
I keep reading that players are not getting anything to hit, based on where they are in the lineup. The best balls to hit are usually in the strike zone. If the player is not getting pitches in the strike zone, shouldn’t that player be walking with more frequency?
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
6:04 pm
The braves need SOMETHING to light a fire under them. Whether it’s a shake-up in the lineup or maybe even a fight, they need it now.
AZBravoFan
May 27th, 2009
6:05 pm
Bobby’s Cox:
I love Shin-Soo Choo. Saw him play in person at the WBC. He has an unbelievable cannon arm. Maybe better than Francoeur’s. Seems to have a little better plate discipline too.
Bayou Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:06 pm
Not Frenchy.
The Red Sox would be lucky to steal away an Atlanta Braves fan favorite! I don’t know how Frank Wren could possibly let the Gold Glover slip away for less than all of Boston’s top prospects. It’s ludicris! Boy ‘o boy, I would hate to see him go. The entire season would be lost. Our future…bleak. What would we do without “The Natural”? Gosh, I would hate to see him go to Boston and just rake for years to come. It would be a travesty. Frenchy, please don’t go…don’t go…we’ll miss you…
chc4
May 27th, 2009
6:06 pm
Bottom line is there are too many easy outs in our lineup. I count four — Jeff, Schafer, KJ and whoever plays LF). Add in the pitcher and that’s over half the lineup. Throw in Chipper’s constant injuries and voila. It’s actually remarkable that we are still over .500. Unfortunately I don’t see it staying that way.
#3
May 27th, 2009
6:08 pm
Can chief Knockahoma can play right field?
Shadetree
May 27th, 2009
6:08 pm
For some reason you could tell Cox didn’t like Josh Anderson. While he would give people a million chances, he never gave Josh that chance. Shafer is going to be good I believe, it’s just not time. If you’re giving him that chance then why not call up Gorky’s or Heyward. They cannot do worse than what we have.
Frenchy just doesn’t want to be here and Garrett Anderson is like Laroche. He doesn’t appear to hustle.
Answer: Cut Anderson and send Frenchy to the minors. Bring up Blanco and Jones and let’s give them a chance. Keep Shafer up and have him do some small things to try and get on. Bunt and such. Move Kelly to the outfield and let Prado play 2nd. This is where Infante being hurt really hurts. Your outfield would be Shafer, Johnson, Diaz, Blanco and Jones. I guess Cox doesn’t like Blanco either.
What about putting Shafer in the 2 hole. That will change the pitches he receives and could snap him out.
Honestly and truthfully I say bring up Gorky’s Hernandez. Speed makes up for alot of mistakes. He and Heyward should be at AAA at least.
No trades. There is no one out there worth getting. We had our chance during the off season and didn’t get it done. Find the answer within people.
Please move Pendleton up the ladder and let’s get a good hitting coach. Hell, make Chipper the player/coach.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
6:08 pm
N8,SHAUN, Gimme a Break –
It’s just baseball , OK.
When I was in A-ball — we had a player bust out in his first 10 abs — 3 singles,3 double,1hr, 2 line drive outs, 1 called strike 3. He was the next great unknown, undrafted, walk up to a try out, gonna be the next “whoever”. According to “them”
His next 10 abs were almost as good — 4 singles, 1 double, 5 outs but all balls in play with good contact. He was on his way to “The Show” LOL Again , according to “them”
His next 20 abs were an exercise in the many ways to strike out, or attempt to make contact so he could still say “i got a little piece of that one” while sitting in the dugout. He was now the next great NOTHING !! LOL According to “them” Yeah , that player was ME .
I could go on but the point isn’t about me. Granted it’s a small sample but all players have streaks, it’s the human nature of the game. And nobody knows what will happen until a player gets on the field and plays. Playing great on a team in a different league does not guarantee that he will do the same for your team. Witness Kenny Lofton. Or Nick Esasky. ( wait, let me sit down) LOL
Everything could change tomorrow. Results one day could disappear the next. Just remember that no matter what you do, somebody will say you did good and somebody will say you need to be traded. AGAIN — According to “them”
AWW YEAH , GOOD TIMES!!
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
6:09 pm
I notice that a lot of people are campaigning for a big bat in the outfield; someone who can hit homeruns on a regular basis. I think we all know that finding that player is a pretty daunting task, whether it’s because of the lack of availability or the lack of any team’s need to trade away a big bat at this point in the season. I would be fine if we just had some consistency. Yes homeruns are sexy, but 2 or 3 doubles in an inning would be equally attractive. We have been leaving too many runners on base which means we don’t have the type of lineup that can string together hits in bunches. Too many rally killers are lurking in the on-deck circle. Put the ball in play, force the defense, and stop swinging with your eyes closed.
It’s easy to jump on Schafer for his strikeouts, but remember he’s a kid who is used to hitting earlier in the lineup. Number 8 hitters typically don’t get too many fat pitches since an automatic out is usually up next. His main goal when stepping up to the plate should be to flip the lineup. That’s a whole new mindset for someone who was depended on to drive in runs. So I think he’ll figure it out in time. I do think he could use a day off but that’s next to impossible thanks to Manny “I can’t throw straight” Corpas. Now that we have Mac back, the key to the offense is keeping Esco, Hoss, and dare I say it… Frenchy in the lineup. And I’m ok if Frenchy doesn’t hit a bunch of taters. Just hit it where they ain’t, and hit it hard.
#3
May 27th, 2009
6:09 pm
Maybe Chief Knockahoma can fill the void in right.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
6:10 pm
“Josh Anderson with 4 hits and his 10th stolen base today. Avg back over .300…..”
Big freaking deal, he don’t play for us. So, what did Jeter do today? How about Soriano? Same impact.
Bay Area Steve
May 27th, 2009
6:12 pm
P-Town,
agree his balance is an issue as well. He’s so concerned about swinging at breaking balls off the plate that he’s taken so much swing out. Now he swings through, or behind, a straight 90 mph down the center.
I don’t know how big-leaguers hit; I wish Caveman, or Slugger, or scoots, or Nolie, or someone else who KNOWS hitting would chime in.
But, I’ll never believe that a guy can be a great slugger trying to hit both fastball and offspeed, within the same pitch. There are exceptions: the Mannys, McCann seemingly. But until one gets two strikes, they should be trying to guess one or the other. Carrol’s blog of a few weeks ago showed great insight into Chipper’s mind during an AB. He’s guessing.
How else can you put a full swing, a power hack? How can you set up, and swing, and know whether you’re going to pull or get inside a pitch?
I don’t believe hitters, including most MLers can. They guess first pitch fastball, or 1-0 change, or 0-1 slider, etc. Then with two strikes, good hitters think the other way, so they’re not beat by the off-speed stuff.
Francoeur is trying to hit any pitch hard all the time. He’ll never be able to do that.
Chad
May 27th, 2009
6:14 pm
DOB
I saw on here yesterday that some people were thinking outside the box by asking about Micah Owings. Do you think converting him over to an outfielder would work? Wouldnt require that much in trade I wouldnt think?
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
6:15 pm
I havent read the blog all day, why do people suddenly think Francouer is going to the Red Sox because that is dumb. Why would Red Sox do that?
Johnny On The Spot
May 27th, 2009
6:16 pm
Who is this “Shaun” character, and why in the heck does he insist on annoying the crap out of everybody?
He’s a wannabe Robin to Steve from OH’s wannabe Batman. Together they seek to keep order as they see it and they use all the latest numbazz to stamp out the opinion of any who don’t play by their rules. Other than that there two people who have a real pathological need to show everyone they are right and others are wrong.
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
6:19 pm
Should we perhaps try changing our hitting coach before changing our right fielder? The people in our lineup who have the most success usually are self-taught or have their dads work with them or go somewhere else for hitting stance advice… seems a little odd.
Ron E.
May 27th, 2009
6:21 pm
Maybe the Braves can’t get a Holliday or Dye right now, but they can certainly stop running out an outfield of Anderson, Schafer, and Dye. Nothing is stopping them from releasing Garret, sending Schafer back down, and trading or releasing Francoeur. It’s hard to imagine a Diaz/Blanco/Jones outfield would be any worse and it might be better.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
6:23 pm
Bobby’s Cox isnt Pence still making the league min. Seems to me he is one of their young pieces they would build around.
Also for everyone saying we should of kept Anderson, lets remember that Scafer has a higher OBP. Right now neither are a good option. If Anderson was here we would just complain about him.
ArkyTech
May 27th, 2009
6:24 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic, it’s a big freakin’ deal because Josh is hitting almost 100 points hire than the guy we ditched to make room for! And has 10 times the stolen bases – and even more RBI’s – in fewer at bats. It’s a big enough freakin’ deal to maybe make up 2-3 games in the standings right now. And if you haven’t noticed we’re 2.5 games out.
jtb
May 27th, 2009
6:26 pm
Ron E.
If you release Anderson, then who plays left field? It’s very easy to say “These guys aren’t playing well. Get rid of them.” but it’s very hard to come up with better options than the outfield we currently have.
MichaelM
May 27th, 2009
6:26 pm
Reading these comments, you would think the Braves are 20 games out instead of 2 1/2. I’ve been watching the Braves since 1982 and have loved every minute of it, good or bad. Keep the farm. Enjoy the season. It’s just a game, a Great game.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
6:28 pm
Blue Jays lost AGAIN today with Halladay pitching, 12-10 against Baltimore.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
6:28 pm
Man, The Only thing I hate about the West Coast games is that we have to wait so long for them to come on…You can only speculate so much as to who to acquire without any series rumors or without sounding like a fool with dumb trade Ideas like we’re playing PS3 “MLB The Show”
My Offtopic Question for the day is….(Drum Roll Please)
What Are songs that you can’t stand to hear at a stadium…?
Sound off here…
For being being a fan of Rap and Hard Metal, I cringe everytime I hear Pop-Tart Garbage like Gwen Stefani (Her voice to me sounds like nails to a chalkboard) or that Usher “Yeah” song which has been played out for about 5 years now….
I try not to think about it but it usually ends up getting into my head like it is as im typing this post…
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
6:29 pm
Well, you know it is, DOB. Patience ain’t a valued virtue ’round these parts.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
6:30 pm
MichaelM: Well said (6:26).
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
6:30 pm
Oh yea, Who wants to bet that KJ will be leading off again instead of hitting 6th…
If he is leading off, we lose “Bank On It!”
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
6:30 pm
Arky Tech, Tex, Dye, Wainwright, and heck, Babe Ruth would help too, but he don’t play for us either. Get over it.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:30 pm
BA Steve-
Well, from being a former ballplayer into my collegiate years, I can tell you that it takes a whole lot of patience and balance, neither of which Jeff has. It also takes a good instructor to see and correct flaws, because I like every other hitter out there eventually realizes that we can’t always see whats wrong w/ ourselves and our swing.
I can’t really say anything though myself based on pitches because I could hit the heck out of a fastball even up to 97, and sliders seemed to be a piece of cake, but I could never really get there when recognizing and hitting a curve…then again, thats still two pieces more than what Francoeur is hitting right now….
In all reality, from his approach to his balance to his discipline to his bat speed, just about EVERY single thing needs to be fixed w/ him at this point….thats why I’m in the camp of move on from him…because we all well know that sadly there is a better chance of that than the organization firing Pendleton and bringing someone in that can seriously work w/ him.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
6:31 pm
Weird how a few days can change your perspective. It went from “We swept the Jays!” to “No wonder we swept the Jays.”
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
6:32 pm
…and they are all former Braves.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
6:32 pm
If he is leading off, we lose “Bank On It!”
Yep because we have let to win a game with him leading off.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:32 pm
Tomahawkin-
Well said @ 6:30
If no Yunel, at this point Diory is sadly the best we have for the leadoff spot….
Kelly should for the millionth time be firmly placed in the 6th slot!
brian
May 27th, 2009
6:32 pm
that’s right Michael M – keep the farm. The farm is our future. everyone here who complains about the tex trade but they are pushing for a Holliday trade. Does not make sense. If we could move Kelly for an OF bat then I would do it – Prado and Hernandez can man the fort until Infante returns. We have much more depth at 2B then at OF that is major league ready.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
6:33 pm
DOB,
Posted this at the end of the old blog just wanted to post it AGAIN.
Check out these numbers. The Braves 1-4 starting pitchers have these combined hitting stats for the year.
70 ABs
11 Hits
20 Ks
.157 BA
In Schafers last 70 ABs
11 Hits
25 SO
.157 BA
SHOCKING
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:33 pm
Well, other than the “bank on it” part…
You can’t really bet on anything w/ this group of Braves….too up/ too down
Steve
May 27th, 2009
6:34 pm
How big has the loss of Infante been??? Amazing! He’s such a good ballplayer…I’ve like him since day 1…How much it has effected the line-up since his departure…I hope he gets to play full-time for the Braves…the guy deserves it…but ofcourse there needs to be some room for him…
Hope we don’t get swept be nice to take one then head to Arizona where we have our “big three” coming up…need to take advantage of the rest of this road trip…The month of June features… Cubs, Brewers, Red Sox (twice), Yankees and Phillies…tough sked!
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
6:34 pm
Although I like the sport of football a lot more than the sport of baseball, I don’t think anyone can argue that baseball offers obsessive compulsive fans a greater field of obsessions and compulsions in which to indulge themselves.
ben
May 27th, 2009
6:35 pm
MichaelM, your completly right. Would it really be that bad to play this year out at .500? I would hate to see another Tex trade, instant satifaction and long term disaster. I would love to see next year with Lowe, jiar, javy, hanson, and kawakami. And add a bat for a whole year through free agency. Then in two years have real OF Heyward and Hernadez.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
6:35 pm
Brian-
Thats a lot of what N8 and I were saying earlier….2b is our 1 position of strength right now besides young starting pitching…
We can very well afford to trade Kelly and go w/ Prado there…especially when you consider KJ is going to get us a much MUCH better return than Francoeur would ever get.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
6:36 pm
My buddy Gordon Edes, who covered the Red Sox for years for the Globe and is now at Yahoo, reports the following:
• The Boston Red Sox have been scouting underachieving Atlanta outfielder Jeff Francoeur as they look to improve their outfield depth, especially in right field. J.D. Drew(notes) has had back and shoulder issues and seldom makes it through a season without breaking down, while his backup, Rocco Baldelli(notes), has ongoing medical concerns that make his availability suspect.
Francoeur, 25, hasn’t regained the power stroke that netted him 29 home runs in 2006, his first full season in the big leagues, but some scouts are convinced a change of scenery would do him wonders. And his durability is unquestioned – Francoeur did not miss a game in 2006 and ’07 and played in 155 in 2008.
With David Ortiz(notes) slumping, the Red Sox also have demonstrated some interest in Johnson, though it cooled when the Nationals asked for prime pitching prospect Michael Bowden(notes) in return.
ArkyTech
May 27th, 2009
6:37 pm
Eric from MO, Anderson’s not a good option? First of all, his OBP IS higher than Schafer’s (.348/.324). He’s hitting over .300 and has many SB’s as the entire Braves team. He has more RBI than Schafer (10/8), and has scored only 3 runs fewer than Schafer. All this with nearly half the plate appearances (175/92).
Josh Anderson is outperforming EVERYONE currently in the Braves outfield.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
6:37 pm
Bay Area Steve — a post about hitting would be too long. But suffice to say that it’s not so much guessing as working the percentages. Knowing the count and what a pitcher is trying to do when you’re at the plate.
Short version, a true hitter is always looking for something in his ZONE so that he can put out a good swing and drive the ball. My zone was a fastball/slider on the inner half of the plate from mid-thigh to belly button. And when you see it, you hit it. This is how you produce power numbers. But you have to know when to look for that and know when that part of the at-bat passes and you then have to become a defensive hitter. Open up/ spread out and go for contact over muscle.
What JF did was open his stance this year to see the ball with both eyes and give himself an extra tenth of a sec to see the ball. This was the same approach I took all through my teens. But this technique takes discipline and mental toughness, something that is very hard for a free swinger to learn at the major league level. Doesn’t happen over night, he could struggle with it for a full half season before it “clicks”, that is if he stays with it which he is not doing all the time. It took me 2 full years to grasp it fully and I wasn’t trying to unlearn Jeff’s bad habits. But every player is different and Jeff certainly is way more talented than I ever could have hoped to be.
Every player’s swing is unique to himself but the final position of contact is one of scientific fact which is why you always see the comparison pictures that are stopped at the point of contact. How to get to that position is the challenge for every hitter. It’s complicated yet so simple at the same time.
Jeff Failcoeur
May 27th, 2009
6:38 pm
DFA ME!
Bay Area Steve
May 27th, 2009
6:39 pm
P-Town,
when you say you could hit FB and slider:
First pitch of your AB, you could hit an inner-third fastball, or an outer-third slider? You weren’t looking for one or the other?
CB
May 27th, 2009
6:40 pm
MichaelM is correct- we bloggers shouldn’t be making all these trades. But it’s so much fun!!!
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
6:41 pm
Nationals Ready To Trade Veterans
By Tim Dierkes [May 27 at 5:03pm CST]
Talking to Newsday’s Ken Davidoff, Nationals acting GM Mike Rizzo volunteered three trade candidates from his team:
“Nick Johnson, or (Josh) Willingham, or (Austin) Kearns, anyone on our roster, if we can make a good baseball trade and improve ourselves, not only for our present but also for our future — a player that can impact us — we have to make those kinds of trades.”
Martin
May 27th, 2009
6:41 pm
What about trading Diaz,Jeff,& Medlen in a package? Would that 3 man package give us a shot at a good right fielder. Also what about Kelly and Jones or Blanco for a center fielder and send Jordan back down to develop more.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
6:42 pm
Olney heard that “Atlanta hasn’t gotten fully engaged yet” in their attempt to augment their outfield.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
6:43 pm
I’m an optimist. I really believe Frenchy will be fine, but I’m afraid it won’t be here.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
6:43 pm
Rizzo wants that GM job. He’s going to clean house as much as possible. Bowden was a real knucklehead.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
6:44 pm
If you’re the Nats, you’re probably looking at two straight #1 overall selections in the draft. They’ll pick Strasburg this year. Who’s looking good for 2010? If they make a few smart trades this year, they can start to put together a solid farm system and a foundation for the future.
Give Me A Break
May 27th, 2009
6:45 pm
Count me as one of those who does not want to pull the trigger on a trade that will decimate the farm. Where the Braves are obviously in a bind with the Schafer in CF situation, I would like to see Diaz play more be it in LF or RF.
Now we’ll hear the chorus of those who say, “he had his chance last year and he proved he’s not a everyday player.” It’s another example of the Braves philosophy in general. Some guys, they have the patience of JOB with. Other guys get one shot and one shot only. I’m not sure I understand that.
I recall a time when the Braves had a player that I liked a lot. I wanted him playing as much as possible. He had a shot to win the second base job one year and actually won it. He performed great! He was the most consistent performer the Braves had for the first couple of months of the season then BANG! He was hurt. When he came back, he was again a utility guy. Then there was the year that Chipper went to left and he got the third base job. He struggled. The only time I saw him actually struggle the entire time he was with the Braves. After a couple of months, he’s on the bench and Chipper is back at third.
I repeat it was the only time I saw him struggle as a Braves and once was enough for Bobby. He only had that one chance at struggling while some guys Bobby will allow them to fall on their face time after time!
He got hurt again and Braves let him walk instead of offering him a contract.
Mark DeRosa has turned into an above average Major League player, much better than most of the guys I’ve watched Cox allow to fail time after time. Yes the Braves do occasionally misjudge talent.
woogidy
May 27th, 2009
6:50 pm
MichaelM, No the Braves aren’t 20 games out, but they might as well be. They’re a team built to sit back and wait for the 3-run homer, and they don’t have anyone to hit it. The Braves are 13th in Runs, 13th in Slugging, 13th in HR’s, 14th in Total Bases, last (16th) in SB, but 5th in OBP, and 6th in AVG. They can’t get guys from first to home. We then look at the Phillies, Marlins, and Mets and realize that out of the 4 teams in hand, the Braves are inferior to the top 2. So, 2.5 now seems like 20 because it might as well be. There’s no way this particular team makes it to the playoffs, no way. And, as fans, that is what we were told they were trying to achieve. We are disappointed.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
6:51 pm
ArchTech sorry, last week it was quite a bit lower. I dont keep up with him on a week to week basis. He isnt a Brave so why do I care. That being said I was also one of the few on here who said Spring Training stats mean nothing and we should keep Anderson. I took a lot of heat about how much better Schafer is. Well guess I was right.
tunafish
May 27th, 2009
6:52 pm
As much as it hurts after 14 wonderful years of playoff baseball, do not pull the trigger on a trade unless it doesn’t involve pitching (besides Jo-Jo)…I love the kj to left and prado starting everyday at 2b, he is a .300 hitter given the at bats. frenchy’s best days in a braves uniform are behind him, as much as that sucks to say. diffrent place would be good. who we need now is wilson betemit (remember when he was the next savior in atlanta, or marte? where is andy marte in the world?)
brian
May 27th, 2009
6:52 pm
DOB – any chance the Red Sox would part with Daniel Bard, Casey Kelly, or Brian Price (with another prospect) for Francoeur or has his value just fallen too low?
rocky mtn braves fan
May 27th, 2009
6:52 pm
Hey DOB – I agree with you entirely that it is too early for any major trades to happen – just doesnt make sense for a team to trade away a valuable bat this early. I do have a question for you though-outside of the nationals(who have said they are ready to trade now), what team do you think would be willing to pull the trigger first?
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
6:53 pm
I’ll go along with Diaz as the left fielder. . . Anderson has shown me little.
Same Thing Said Last Year
May 27th, 2009
6:53 pm
The comments that no one should panic because the Braves were only a couple of games out were made by many on the blog about this time last year.
The Braves finished closer to 10 games out than they did a couple of games out.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
6:53 pm
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
6:28 pm
Original Jon: Ryan in TN. Sounds like you are giving up on the season already and looking forward to next year, when the reality is that the Braves are only 2.5 games out of first with over 117 games left to play.
Yeah Jon, the Braves are only 2.5 games back, but guess what? On May 27th of last year, the Braves were also 2.5 games back and in 3rd place. They ended up 20 games out by the end of the season. What similarities are there between the two team? Both have atrocious bullpens. Both had Francoeur. We had Kotsay then and that currently is a step up from what we have. Same at first. We had Tex, now we have Kotchman and the edge goes to Tex. Both had Johnson. Our top three starters this year are better than last years, but the results are still the same because we have no offense. Now Jon, you have to admit that it’s really easy to give up on a team that is this fragmented.
Dan
May 27th, 2009
6:55 pm
Randy Johnson has a 6.26 ERA, 1.57 WHIP and a .293 opponent’s batting average; but despite that I bet he looks like an ace tonight.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
6:56 pm
I disagree. What has happened in the three years I’ve been blogging is that the team has played consistently mediocre baseball, and even the most optimistic, Bobby loving fans have begun to become fed up with it–N8
I agree N8. I used to be one of the staunchest supporters of Bobby Cox. But the further this debacle has gone on, the easier it has become to see that Bobby has glaring flaws and should be replaced by someone who’ll remove the aura of Club Med from the clubhouse
jtb
May 27th, 2009
6:56 pm
What boggles my mind is why so few people in here realize that Diaz can’t hit right handed pitchers. Remember last year when he was our every day left fielder until he got hurt? That didn’t work. Remember when GA was hurt earlier this year and Diaz played almost every day? That also didn’t work. He KILLS lefties, but as an every day player, he just can’t keep up.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
6:58 pm
9 Braves · Trends 17
There’s not much to be said about the hitting — they score runs when Chipper Jones is contusion-free and Brian McCann can see more than 3 feet in front of him — but the pitching could win them the NL East. They’ve got more depth than any team located south of Boston, and that’s before Tommy Hanson and Tim Hudson arrive on the scene … As a result, I can see the Braves asking Tom Glavine to make four more months’ worth of rehab starts (”no, we totally want you up here, Tommy G. We just think you need some more, you know, conditioning. And to work on, uh, your pick-off move. Yeah, that.”) —-CBSSPORTS.COM POWER RANKINGS (up from 17th to 9th in 1 week)
Jason
May 27th, 2009
6:59 pm
I don’t blame you for this post DOB. I frequent the Braves forums on MLB and I’ve gotta say, we don’t have the brightest of fans posting there. I will say they’re at least passionate.
Who knows, maybe not making the post season for a few more years is exactly what this city needs to show that same 1991 passion when they watch a game in person, and actually start filling a stadium of supporting fans instead of opposing fans during the post season.
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
6:59 pm
KJ to LF, Brandon Jones to RF. Gregor Blanco back to CF. Prado to 2nd. Internal fix…….can’t be any worse!
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
7:01 pm
Maybe “Frenchy” should pay a visit to Rudy Jaramillo. If that guy can fix Andruw…………
mbatl
May 27th, 2009
7:01 pm
Jerry Holcombe , it ain’t Bobby that’s fallen down on the job. It’s the GM who’s misunderstood the need for offense. No manager in the history of baseball could win with this outfield. GM’s fault. GM’s job to fix.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:03 pm
Why get rid of Frenchy? He’s currently our best outfielder. Diaz isn’t a full time player. Schafer stinks because he’s a rookie. Anderson is doing jack out there on the field. At least Frenchy is usually putting the ball in play lately. Unfortunately, this is a sad but true fact. It would be great to live in a world where our farm system was stacked with major league ready outfielders but that’s just not the case. Beggars can’t be choosers.
Picking on Frenchy is the hip thing to do right now but currently he’s just another piston in an offense that’s sputtering along mis-firing.
Bobby's Cox
May 27th, 2009
7:03 pm
Ya that blue jays game was a dagger to the Jays.
They blew a 10-5 lead in the bottom of the 8th giving up 5 runs.
A few innings later in extras they blew a 2 run lead. Walk off shot.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:03 pm
Jerry what you fail to mention is we have 3 starters on pace for over 200 innings and all 3 have ERAs under 3.5 You also fail to mention since having a bad April Kawakami is looking like he is turning the corner with a great May. Which gives us 4 really good to great starters. You also fail we have the number 2 pitching prospect who will be here by the all-star break. Not to mention that Hudson is on or ahead of schedule and should be back by August.
By the way our bullpen is not astrocious. Soriano, Gonzo, and EOF have all been really good. Is it the best pen in the League, no but it is very solid. The ERA is high but that is mostly because when the game is out of reach we throw in our mop up guys and they give up a few more runs. Anyone who watches the games sees this.
Art Vandelay
May 27th, 2009
7:03 pm
Can someone please explain to me why people keep on saying they want Blanco back in CF? Dude is hitting about the same as Schafer at TRIPLE A. How do you think that would translate to the majors? I’m gonna go out on a limb and say not very well.
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
7:04 pm
Braves Outfield VORP:
Jeff Francoeur: -4.7 (630/663). Number of PA’s: 185
Jordan Schafer: -4.1 (619/663). Number of PA’s: 176
Garret Anderson: – 3.4 (605/663). Number of PA’s: 99
Matt Diaz: 5.7 (131/663). Number of PA’s: 89
Apparently the more useless you are in the Braves Outfield, the more plate appearances you’re rewarded with. Makes a ton of sense to me.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:05 pm
BA Steve-
It honestly really depended on who I was facing…I was actually quite ridiculous according to my teammates for the fact that I kept my own book on AB’s I had against pitchers…
I batted leadoff for the most part because of my speed and the ability I had for being able to take a lot of pitches and draw walks….
So a lot of times and for many pitchers I would look for the fastball on the 1st pitch and if it wasn’t in my zone, which was middle in at just below the belt to the knees I would more than likely take it….
Like Caveman said, its all about who is pitching, what the situation is, and what not to determine your approach to the AB.
Now on the answer to my approach to a slider….I was really good at picking those up out of the pitchers hands as obviously they aren’t as deceptive as they are from say, a guy like K-Rod….anyways, I would actually lay off the slider outer third because it usually broke off the plate or was at the black enough that I couldn’t do much with it….
I could hit line to line, but I was more of a natural up the middle and to the left side of the diamond hitter so I could pull the outside FB if need be or go the other way depending on what the situation was, and with the slider I just tried to not get under it as best as possible, with pretty good results.
Either way it all starts with your approach before the game and then prior to the AB…you always need to have a pretty good idea of what you should do before you get in the box.
Urban Braves Fan
May 27th, 2009
7:06 pm
Why be Jeff Francoeur still on dis team? When will Wren’s “I’m tired of watching him” moment mosey on down likes wid de Nashunals GM and Daniel Cabrera?
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:08 pm
BA Steve-
It honestly really depended on who I was facing…I was actually quite ridiculous according to my teammates for the fact that I kept my own book on AB’s I had against pitchers…
I batted leadoff for the most part because of my speed and the ability I had for being able to take a lot of pitches and draw walks….
So a lot of times and for many pitchers I would look for the fastball on the 1st pitch and if it wasn’t in my zone, which was middle in at just below the belt to the knees I would more than likely take it….
Like Caveman said, its all about who is pitching, what the situation is, and what not to determine your approach to the AB.
Now on the answer to my approach to a slider….I was really good at picking those up out of the pitchers hands as obviously they aren’t as deceptive as they are from say, a guy like K-Rod….anyways, I would actually lay off the slider outer third because it usually broke off the plate or was at the black enough that I couldn’t do much with it….
I could hit line to line, but I was more of a natural up the middle and to the left side of the diamond hitter so I could pull the outside FB if need be or go the other way depending on what the situation was, and with the slider I just tried to not get under it as best as possible, with pretty good results.
Either way it all starts with your approach before the game and then prior to the AB…you always need to have a pretty good idea of what you should do before you get in the box.
Urban Braves Fan
May 27th, 2009
7:08 pm
Why git rid uh Frenchy? Hes currently our best outfielder. -Bravesfan
Dat be simply not true. He’s de wo’st in de Braves outfield.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:09 pm
BA Steve-
It honestly really depended on who I was facing…I was actually quite ridiculous according to my teammates for the fact that I kept my own book on AB’s I had against pitchers…
I batted leadoff for the most part because of my speed and the ability I had for being able to take a lot of pitches and draw walks….
So a lot of times and for many pitchers I would look for the fastball on the 1st pitch and if it wasn’t in my zone, which was middle in at just below the belt to the knees I would more than likely take it….
Like Caveman said, its all about who is pitching, what the situation is, and what not to determine your approach to the AB.
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
7:09 pm
Hey Art Vandelay, your real name won’t be Ben Dover, would it?
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
7:09 pm
Atrocious BPen? Nah. Bad outfield, atrocious bloggers – too many quitters on the blog.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:11 pm
Now on the answer to my approach to a slider….I was really good at picking those up out of the pitchers hands as obviously they aren’t as deceptive as they are from say, a guy like K-Rod….anyways, I would actually lay off the slider outer third because it usually broke off the plate or was at the black enough that I couldn’t do much with it….
I could hit line to line, but I was more of a natural up the middle and to the left side of the diamond hitter so I could pull the outside FB if need be or go the other way depending on what the situation was, and with the slider I just tried to not get under it as best as possible, with pretty good results.
Either way it all starts with your approach before the game and then prior to the AB…you always need to have a pretty good idea of what you should do before you get in the box.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:13 pm
Dat be simply not true. He’s de wo’st in de Braves outfield.
If you say so. For somebody who’s the worst, it sure is odd he’s tied for team lead in runs, leading the team in hits, 3rd in total bases, one RBI off the team lead. The team offense as a whole is failing right now.
Alex
May 27th, 2009
7:13 pm
Why is nobody talking about the massive error the Braves made by trading Josh Anderson instead of keeping him as a fifth outfielder/insurance policy for Schafer, a guy who never even played in AAA and whose greatest run of success came against spring training pitching. Last I checked, Anderson’s numbers destroy Schafer’s.
And while we’re on the subject, why must we laud Bobby Cox for his patience in young struggling players instead of doing the smart thing and calling up Gregor Blanco to actually get some production from center.
We bet that Frenchy would bounce back – he hasn’t.
We bet that a AA player could handle a full time center field slot- he hasn’t.
A lot of bad personnel decisions so far in the early season.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:14 pm
BA Steve-
Sorry, apparently this stupid F-N WordPress ate the 1st part of the post to you…..
Basically to make things shorter, I was a leadoff hitter, was able to work counts well, and could risk taking breaking balls for 1st pitch strikes and look in a particular zone for 1st pitch fastballs middle-in….Also, I was considered ridiculous by my teammates because I had my own scouting book based on every pitcher I ever faced.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:15 pm
YO P-TOWN
would you agree that there is not a better feeling at the plate than to be up with the bases juiced, knowing that the pitcher can’t afford a yakker in the dirt. So he’s gotta come into the zone and your sitting Dead Red. Cocked, locked, and ready to rock !! LOL
And then when he tries to get in the kitchen you turn on one and send a line drive foul into the other teams dugout, where they initiate a game of chinese fire drill to avoid the pain. That’s always the part where I would mutter to the catcher – “I believe the rule is if I get a piece of it I get to rename it. Right??” AWW YEAH — GOOD TIMES !!
Same Thing Said Last Year
May 27th, 2009
7:15 pm
There we go again, labeling a guy as “not an everyday player” based on the opinions of a management team that has been wrong before. I repeat, Mark DeRosa was labeled “not an everyday player” by this organization. He struggled mightily ONCE and was written off as a viable option while others have been given chance after chance to fail and most have. He’s become a super utility guy who after he left the Braves played virtually every day somewhere on the field. So in fact he has proven he is and every day player!
Diaz has always had better numbers against lefties but last year was the first time Diaz had remarkably lower numbers against righties, so now “he can’t hit right handed pitching.” Diaz has been a great contributor to the Braves since he’s been here. He had his struggle last year until he was injured and that was his ONE SHOT. I think he deserves the same consideration that a struggling Schafer and Frenchy and KJ get. How many times so far have these guys stunk it up yet they always get a chance at redemption.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:15 pm
I think I’d definitely rather be watching Schafer and Anderson trade time in CF than to watch Schafer all the time and Norton waste a spot on the bench. Also, that guy we got for Anderson is doing lousy in the minors right now.
groundfog
May 27th, 2009
7:17 pm
Fredo does not deserve to play for the Red Sox. He’ll end up winning a world series. He should not be rewarded for incompetence lol.
ben
May 27th, 2009
7:18 pm
I dont understand why everyone wants to trade guys on the low. Who would give someone ok for francoeur now, we dont want him why would anyone else? I would rather keep him if we have for this year hope he get his ave to .265 w/ 10 HR and trade him in the offseason. Or Heck send him to the minors for all you that want to cut him, wouldn’t be any worst off. But I mean really we want to see Diaz’s glove in RF, remember the single that went for a triple, against the Mets, with him out there.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:18 pm
Alex do you read this blog. Its mentioned every other day.
Urban Braves Fan
May 27th, 2009
7:20 pm
Who cares about RBIs? Francoeur de out machine be again spo’tin’ an OBP unda’ .300. Enough uh dis crap, dig dis: dump his so’ry rear already. If he wuz not some local kid, let’s say Francoeur wuz bo’n in New Yo’k, he and his outs-made-72-of-the-time carcass would already been rightfully booted.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:21 pm
YES! Another day, another 15+ posts of mine that have been eaten by WordPress!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
7:21 pm
P-Town Brave, can u play right field?
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
7:22 pm
Eric, I’ve already stated previously that Soriano has looked good. As for EOF, I don’t trust him and I feel that he will eventually let up, especially if Bobby does what Bobby does best and overuse him. Gonzo can’t be trusted to lock down a win, especially a one-run affair. Hs era is 3.79. Does that sound like an effective closer to you. And you only mentioned Gonzo, Soriano, and EOF to defend your statement that our bullpen isn’t atrocious. Three pitchers does not a bullpen make. Currently, we have only 3 relievers with ERAs under Gonzo’s 3.79, and one of those (Bennett) doesn’t give up his own runs, but allows inherited runners to score. We’ll have to disagree on the bullpen Eric, they make me very uneasy.
As for the starters that you say I fail to see, I don’t fail there. I know we have some good starters, but it doesn’t, and has not mattered thus far this season. We are still exactly where we were one year ago today, 2 1/2 games back and in 3rd place. Lastly Eric, a mop up man’s job is not to come in and give up runs. His job is hold the opponent so that we might be able to come back. Doesn’t always happen that way, but you don’t give a roster spot to someone that can’t do the job either.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:23 pm
ben thing is Francouer stock may never be good. So how long do you keep him. Either trade him or cut him. He isnt performing and hasnt in a long time.
SHEfer
May 27th, 2009
7:25 pm
Guys don’t look at Josh Anderson numbers, I’m for real in a few years. I have what it takes, even had a hit off that Lincecum pitcher.
Webster'sDictionary
May 27th, 2009
7:25 pm
How very odd. Didn’t know the Braves had cajun fans. Kinda odd though. One would expect an accent when speaking but certainly not when typing.
In other words: Dude, why do you type like that? It’s flat out annoying.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:27 pm
Yo P-Town
Is the feeling of anticipation when you know you’re about to get your pitch not one of the best adrenaline feelings in baseball??
You got the bases juiced, pitch can’t afford to put a yakker in the dirt, so your sitting Dead Red (cocked, locked, and ready to rock) when he tries to get in your kitchen?? You swing through so fast that you send his heater into the visitors dugout on a line, where his guys start a chinese fire drill to avoid the pain. That was always the time when I would mutter to the catcher – ” I believe the rule is I get a piece of it and I can rename it. Right??” And then remember on you next at bat to watch for in-ur-ear !! AWW YEAH GOOD TIMES !!! LOL
Art Vandelay
May 27th, 2009
7:27 pm
ppaddy123, Buck Naked
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:28 pm
P-Town I just tried to send you the same post twice and it keeps disappearing without posting.
What’s going on with that, do you know??
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:29 pm
Jerry if you have 3 good relievers then your pen isnt atrocious. Just because you dont trust EOF because you think he will eventually blow it isnt a good arguement. It doesnt take a whole lot of runs to bring your ERA up to 3.79 when your a reliever because one or two outings will do it. Also most mop up guys give up runs otherwise they would be closers or setup men.
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
7:29 pm
Step off me Webster’s.
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
7:29 pm
Art, I thought it was “Buck Knaked”
concerned braves fan
May 27th, 2009
7:30 pm
Why git rid uh Frenchy? Hes currently our best outfielder. -Bravesfan
Dat be simply not true. He’s de wo’st in de Braves outfield.
Well the sheet wearers are out loose again. Yeah that’s real funny, let’s talk in stilted English and pretend on “urban” people have trouble with the language. Careful not to put your eye with that pointy hat.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
7:31 pm
So…Anybody got comments on Manny being 4th. I think it’s wrong, but we also have to realize that this voting started before he was suspended.
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
7:31 pm
I’ve got a brilliant idea that will save the Braves, and give Frank Wren 3.5 million more dollars to spend on the outfield. A cookie goes to the first person to correctly guess.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:31 pm
The year Smoltz closed he had an ERA well over 3 the year he saved 55 games. ERA means very little to relievers Jerry.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
Oh umm MLB tonight had projected lineup and Kelly is leading off and Prado at 1st (2nd)…No Escobar, Chipper is hitting 3rd
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
The Braves are a 500 team bottom line. We are going to go 12-4 and get all excited and then turn around and go 4-12. That’s what 500 teams do. Frenchy flat out sucks in an Atlanta uniform and Schafer is shell shocked.
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
Art, by the way, Ben Dover was in a “Fletch” movie….not sure which one…..
Wayne
May 27th, 2009
7:32 pm
JS left the braves’ cupboard bare just like he did the royals. There will not be any major improvement until Cox is gone. He is only playing Shaffer because he has no other option. And he won’t pinch-hit for Jeff F. no matter how bad we need a hit etc.., because-no one knows why he lets Jeff F. continue to play. And McCann is not an all-star catcher if he won’t stay at the plate in order to make a tag play or too block the plate.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:33 pm
Garrett Anderson is washed up.. Road Kill
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:33 pm
SoWeGa-
Actually I can play all 3 OF positions (most comfortable in CF), as well as 2b, but my main position was SS.
Capt Caveman-
Haven’t a clue…it ate the 1st portion of my post to BA Steve and it was a bit long for me to retype…I’ve actually gotten to the point where I’m hitting the copy button so that if it does wipe me out I may be able to get it in a bit later on.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
7:34 pm
Well the sheet wearers are out loose again.
What is with you and the race obsession?
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
7:34 pm
Just saw that the first week of the MLB All Star votes are now in.
Two Braves that have a shot of participating in the game in St. Louis – Chipper Jones and Brian McCann are not doing so good.
Chipper is in third place at 3B, 172,909 votes behind leader David Wright. I would like to get him at least in second place as we know the NY Met fans will flood the votes for Wright.
Brian McCann is a very DISAPOINTING 5th in the Catchers vote! He is 223,804 votes behind leader Yadier Molina. That is a freaking joke! Must be the home town Card fans making that happen.
Albert Pujols leads all NL in votes with 842,058.
Come on Braves fans let’s get McCann in that starting spot this year as he deserves it. Hope this gets things going for our guys.
Johnny On The Spot
May 27th, 2009
7:35 pm
If you say so. For somebody who’s the worst, it sure is odd he’s tied for team lead in runs, leading the team in hits, 3rd in total bases, one RBI off the team lead. The team offense as a whole is failing right now.
Oh dear! Now you’ve gone and dunnit! You have used the wrong numbazz and now we’ll have to endure yet another pretentious rant from you know who’s!
Wait for it….in…3…2…1…
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
7:35 pm
Sheffield’d doing fine right now but a 162 game season in the OF won’t keep a 40 yr old hot. In other words he’s an injury away from being..” Why didn’t the Mets get a younger player.”
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:35 pm
Throw Brandon Jones in LF, Greggor Blanco in CF, and Diaz in RF and let’s roll. They aren’t going to do any worst offensively than what we got.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
Driver8
I voted today. The biggest disappointment for me though is Adrian Gonzalez.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
Enter your comments here
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
Diaz is a career .288 vs rh and .328 vs. lefties. He hits rh better than anyone else in the outfield by far.
Wayne
May 27th, 2009
7:36 pm
The Gwinnett Braves are in place to shore-up the area when the Atlanta Braves are moved out of state. I bet the GB’s attendance on average is way better that the AB’s. Ever wonder why the AAA team was moved so close.
ppaddy123
May 27th, 2009
7:37 pm
Gosh Jerry, been a couple of years since we had any “booger” references on here
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:37 pm
Oops.. Ok let me guess that speech. blah blah.. inconsistent.. blah blah not clutch.. blah blah obp.. blah slg blah blah.. ops!
Yep, Frenchy’s obp, slg and ops all stink.
Ambrosine (formerly Urban Braves Fan)
May 27th, 2009
7:37 pm
Francoeur still makin’ outs likes 72% uh de time. Outs, out, outs…really de only thing he duz well.
concerned braves fan
May 27th, 2009
7:39 pm
Boo can you not read? Who do you think they were imitating? Ain’t no Cajun I ever heard talk like that. Funny how when people don’t say racial stuff the subject never comes up. Talking in coded language like that is what it is.
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
7:39 pm
I agree with you as well regarding Gonzalez but not too shocked that Pujols will get the popular vote. Adrian will be the backup no doubt about that. I sure hope so as we could use his bat in that game. Kinda tired of losing to the AL for so long.
Ambrosine (formerly Urban Braves Fan)
May 27th, 2009
7:39 pm
Yep, Frenchy’s obp, slg and ops all stink.
And dus, he ain’t good!
Ambrosine (formerly Urban Braves Fan)
May 27th, 2009
7:41 pm
Ain’t no Cajun I ever heard talk like that.
And when de hell dun did I say ah’ am cajun exactly?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 27th, 2009
7:41 pm
Yea, we are 23-22 and only 2.5 games back. This time last season our Braves were 24-21 and 1.5 games back before the wheels came off.
Yes, we have the pitching. It’s playoff caliber. Unfortunately the defense and offense ain’t available to back up the pitching. The freight train is coming and it’s called June. We are about to get flattened.
I said all that to say this. If the Braves don’t get some help right now, July will be too late.
Roman Gal (S-C-H-A-F-E-R)
May 27th, 2009
7:42 pm
Shafer
Shaffer
Shaefer
Schaffer
Schaeffer
I guess I really should stop expecting people spell correctly. I mean, this is the south.
(Dang, I did it again. I really gotta stop making fun of the south. It’s not becoming, especially since I live in the south.)
Johnny On The Spot
May 27th, 2009
7:44 pm
Yep, Frenchy’s obp, slg and ops all stink
Ahh, there you go. Thank You, now maybe we’ll have a bit of peace. Now don’t forget rbi’s, and hit’s, means that you are misinformed ok. It’s all about avoiding outs and stuff.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:44 pm
choo chooo
Wheelz007
May 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
Guys and gals, let’s be patient. I want Wren to make a good deal. If we move Frenchy and get something good in return, then I’m all for it. But let’s not forget that Frenchy is still quite young and his best years should still be ahead of him.
A change of scenary may be just what Frency needs. Maybe. maybe not.
We definately need a bat. Big time. Hopefully we can land one that will produce, stay relatively healthy and hang around for a few years. But let’s not trade the farm to get one.
Go Braves!!!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
P-Town, I meant canu play RF now, tonight, in SF…or center…or left.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
OK P-TOWN
One more try, do you agree that sitting at the plate knowing you’re about to get your pitch is the most adrenaline filled feeling you can get in baseball??
Quick player description = bases juiced, pitch can’t waste yakker in the dirt. So your sitting Dead Red when he comes into your kitchen..
A few times I got around so fast that I hit a liner into the visitors dugout and sent’em diving for cover. LOL
That’s when i would mutter to the catcher ” I believe the rule is I get a piece of it and I can rename it. Right?? ” LOL
And then try to remember on my next at bat to watch for IN-UR-EAR !! AWW YEAH GOOD TIMES !!!!
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
I hope francour starts lighting it up just make you “fans” complain about something else for a little bit.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:45 pm
Driver8,”Brian McCann is a very DISAPOINTING 5th in the Catchers vote! He is 223,804 votes behind leader Yadier Molina. That is a freaking joke! Must be the home town Card fans making that happen.
Albert Pujols leads all NL in votes with 842,058. ”
Are you serious? After April he was batting .200 and spent a few weeks on the DL. Now if he continues to tear it up then he should be voted in and he probably will be. Also Molina is the best defensive catcher. Its no joke.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:46 pm
Jordan Schafer sucks no matter how you spell it.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
7:46 pm
Actually Eric, the year Smoltz had 55 saves, he didn’t have an era well over 3.00 as you allude to. His era was 3.25 and that’s not bad. It’s not great, but it’s not 3.79 either. You’ll also remember that there were a few games there when Smoltz simply imploded and allowed alot of runs. Take those away and he probably has a sub-3.00 era. Gonzo rarely retires the side and hasn’t show the ability to blow the ball past hitters.Smoltz’s WHIP was 1.033 and Gonzalez’s is 1.316.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:47 pm
TBF(n)K as Billy, are you serious?
concerned braves fan
May 27th, 2009
7:47 pm
Come on Braves fans let’s get McCann in that starting spot this year as he deserves it. Hope this gets things going for our guys.
You barking on the wrong blog dude…lol! Where do you think you are, Milwaukee?
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
7:47 pm
TBF(n)K as Billy,
I’d love for that to happen. And I’d eat my words with a side of crow. But it just ain’t gonna.
Dooley
May 27th, 2009
7:48 pm
Rome Braves’ 1st Baseman Gerry Rodriguez just hit for the CYCLE with a walk-off homerun. Rodriguez tripled in the first inning, doubled in the third, singled in the fifth and homered in the 10th to cap the feat.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:48 pm
I think the only change of scenery Frenchy needs is about 3 days on the bench. Maybe he’ll realize he’s not Chipper Jones, not a team institution and is starting every day in right field is not his god given right.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
7:48 pm
Jordan Schafer sucks no matter how you spell it.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, whether it’s good or not.
groundfog
May 27th, 2009
7:49 pm
Unreal our only option is Schafer. Josh should have been here-he could have had Notton’s spot.
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
7:49 pm
hope francour starts lighting it up just make you “fans” complain about something else for a little bit. -TBF(n)K as Billy
“Lightin’ it up” fo’ Francoeur means anoda’ sin’les splurge.
Makes too many outs, hits fo’ no power, slow and below average defender. Sorry, but he ain’t special Fran-apologists.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:51 pm
Always cracks me up with these wanna-bes talking about how great they were when they played “college” and “minor league” ball. Like we actually believe them. People really are much cooler online.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:51 pm
Roman Gal, we don’t care how good his azz looks in his uniform, we just want him to be able to hit an inside fastball for once.
JeanE
May 27th, 2009
7:51 pm
I totally agree 100% about the poster’s comments on Mark DeRosa & his time with the Braves. I am a HUGE DeRo fan & have avidly followed his post Braves career – he has done awesome, at Texas, Cubs & now the poor guy is in purgatory with Cleveland!! But he can play & almost any position, plus he’s a team guy & hustles all the time. I love that! I also am in the minority rooting for Diaz to get more playing time, what do we have to lose at this point? He can hit & his outfield skills have improved tremendously, plus he is kind of Shafer’s mentor, loved that article about them in the AJC, it changed my mind about Shafer & I’ve stopped referring to him as Mr. HGH. Give Matty D another chance!!!!
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
7:52 pm
Stick Schafer in at lead off and leave him there. The guy only got like one game as lead off and did well at it. He seems to have the fundamentals of working the count down and will only get better at getting on base. At the very least, he’ll learn what it takes to be our lead off guy. Besides, it seems like every other day our current lead off does no better than Jordan Schafer down in the 8th slot.
groundfog
May 27th, 2009
7:52 pm
Josh Anderson went 4-for-5 and stole his 10th base as the Tigers’ leadoff man on Wednesday
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
7:52 pm
SoWeGa-
Unfortunately I’m stuck here in IL…actually about to go play some slo-pitch in 45 min….one of my buddies knows I’m a ringer and his team needs some more talent apparently, so I said I would sub for the night…actually, I think he really wants me for my D more than my offense because I can still turn a DP like nobody’s business!
El Capitan-
Well, I can maybe do you one or two better in my case….the only two things that felt better to me were knowing that I had the pitcher read perfectly and was given a steal sign and ready to go….AND turning that 4-6-3 DP when I knew I had to get it quickly from the 2b and get rid of it quicker with a runner bearing down…..a head first triple and going from 1st to home are close behind….
I do enjoy the “watch for in your ear” comment…I got that a bunch actually…still holding the conference record in H.S. for most HBP in a single season
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
7:53 pm
Look in that mirror mbatl and you’ll see the idiot you are looking for. Then turn on the game and you’ll see another one in the dugout with his finger knuckle deep. Anyone who thinks that Bobby Cox is doing a good job is a complete imbecile. Wear your crown with impunity.
groundfog
May 27th, 2009
7:53 pm
One more time,Josh Anderson went 4-for-5 and stole his 10th base as the Tigers’ leadoff man on Wednesday
Braveheart
May 27th, 2009
7:53 pm
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/brandon_inge/#comments
Another interesting finding is that the players who were considered catchers but were moved to another position later on were really good hitters. Those 91% who remained at catcher were -9 runs per 650 PA through age 28, and -10 from age 29 onwards. The other 9% were zero runs through age 28 (i.e. average) and +10 runs from age 29 onwards. It is possible that these players, freed from their catcher shackles, went on to be the good hitters they always were. This is why we need to consider Catcher as a separate pool when applying the positional adjustments.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
7:53 pm
we don’t care how good his azz looks in his uniform, we just want him to be able to hit an inside fastball for once.
I’m glad to know you think his bum looks nice in his uniform.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
7:53 pm
Jerry if Gonzo pitches 3 scoreless innings his ERA will be there. There isnt much difference in that with relievers but I wouldnt expect you to understand that.
groundfog
May 27th, 2009
7:54 pm
Wren you are such a genius us dumb bloggers just don’t see it , right? lol
Mitchie-san
May 27th, 2009
7:54 pm
I say keep Jeff and trade for Rudy Jaramillo. Pay him whatever he wants.
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
7:56 pm
Michael Lewis talked about players likes Jeff Francoeur in his scribblin’ “Moneyball.” They’re there t’sell jeans, not be good.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:56 pm
P-TOWN
I hold my HS record for most HBP in batting practice. Something about going yard and rubbing it in on your buddy seemed to make that little white ball want to get close to me.
LOL All in fun but a bruise is still a bruise.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
7:58 pm
JeanE, I don’t see much Diaz hatten going on in here. The guy can hit.
Derosa has done well since leaving the Braves. BUT when he got the opportunity to play everyday for the Braves, the numbers don’t lie, he sucked! (His numbers with the Bravos beforer getting traded were worst than Frenchy’s are right now.)
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
7:59 pm
Enough with the nose picking bullsh–t. Every player in the league is blowing snot rockets all over the field when they are not adjusting themselves.
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
8:00 pm
I have to agree with Bravesfan, Schafer should bat lead off, for the Gwinnett Braves.
abwright
May 27th, 2009
8:04 pm
Now that the Braves are employing a good, durable pitching staff, I haven’t heard folks calling for Roger McDowell’s head lately. What’s up with that?
BaseballNut
May 27th, 2009
8:05 pm
yo davie, where’s that lineup for tonite. Is Chipper gonna actually play tonite??
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
8:06 pm
Michael Lewis is an excellent author. But he did a pretty crappy job of portraying Billy Beane and his scientific draft strategy and roster construction process. On Base Percentage has never been, and will never be, Billy Beane’s dogma. Billy Beane simply found a metric that people didn’t realize was as valuable as it is, and used that to his advantage. In that case it happened to be on-base percentage. But OBP isn’t what he’s all about. He’s all about market inefficiencies. Finding something that other people are paying too much for and sell it to them or finding something people are selling for cheaper than they should be and buying it from them. In today’s market, people don’t under-pay for OBP, so the whole “Moneyball” argument isn’t relevant to OBP anymore.
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
8:06 pm
Funny stuff on the blog tonight……funny stuff.
oh SNAP!
May 27th, 2009
8:06 pm
groundfog
One more time it doesn’t matter W>T>F Josh Anderson does, he ain’t playing for us.
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
8:07 pm
Roman Gal
Pics?
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:07 pm
I know the lineup but has DOB posted anything since meeting with the players?
SHEfer
May 27th, 2009
8:08 pm
Roman Gal: How do you spell that again?
BaseballNut
May 27th, 2009
8:09 pm
My kid is a big fan & he seems to think Chip will not be in the lineup because the Unit is on the mound. If he’s right he get’s a new transformers ……I win, he has to do extras chores.
We’re on pins and needles to see who is right!!!!!
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
8:09 pm
Roman Gal: How do you spell that again?
It’s M-e-d-l-e-n.
semiballcoach
May 27th, 2009
8:11 pm
roman gal—you forgot che furr
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:12 pm
BaseballNut
Why would Chipper not hit against Randy, who he kills. You smart one just won extra chores from your youngin.
semiballcoach
May 27th, 2009
8:12 pm
too busy calling for shafer, anderson and francoeurs heads
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
8:13 pm
Jerry, your opinions are . . . well, they’re . . . well, ignorant.
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
8:13 pm
Tex with a moonshot in Texas!
Wow!
Bleu_Bayou42
May 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
I am getting wore out on the Josh Anderson stats myself.
Same Thing Said Last Year
May 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
Eric from Mo. Have you cast an all-star ballot yet? If not, go and cast one. When you get to the NL catchers, click the compare stats link and compare each NL catcher. Even though Mac was on the DL he still has better numbers than the other guys on the ballot!
Other than Ozzie Smith and a few others whose names are forgettable, when has the best defensive player been named to that all-star team based on being the best defensive guy at his position?
Last year the Cubs fans stuffed the boxes for their guy at catcher (and Fukodome). The year before that it was Martin. McCann has been the most consistent guy at his position in his league going on 4 years now. Ask any manager if they would rather have Yadier Molina or B Mac and unless you’re talking to LaRussa, I would say the vast majority would choose Mac. Molina is a good defensive catcher, without a doubt better than Mac in that department, but McCann should be the choice going away for the all-star game!
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
Guess who Josh Anderson was facing? I’ll give you a hint, he’s a former Brave and the Tigers were facing the Royals. I guess those are redundant hints.
semiballcoach
May 27th, 2009
8:14 pm
wish tex was on it
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
8:16 pm
Adam Dunn plum hit his 16th homer fo’ de season.
2YRS/20M…dat a steal!
CB
May 27th, 2009
8:17 pm
Hi Jerry I see you are entertaining the blog tonight with your funny, witty banter. Gee so glad to see you are making friends again with your clever repartee. Pretty soon may not be anybody here but you, but you keep it up you class act you.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:18 pm
OK Tex has 15 homers….He’s a real product of the “can’t carry a lineup by himself”.
He’s hit 17,12,9, 25 (exception),18, and 14 homers before the ASB in each year before this one.
Braves GM
May 27th, 2009
8:18 pm
I think I am going to trade Frenchy, Glavine, Anderson and Shafer to the
Dodgers.
Think they will give me that Manny guy?
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
8:19 pm
Sub-par defense or not, we should have made a play for Adam Dunn.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
8:20 pm
SoWeGa + Capt Caveman-
Gotta run and get to my game…I’ll see if I can give you a Jerome Jurenivich type report when I get back lol…
Hopefully I can make it home by about the 3rd-4th inning or so.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:20 pm
4 former Braves on hand tonight on ESPN.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
8:22 pm
Watching the Yankees games………….
Tex has 12 HR in may
ARod has 7 HR and he didnt play in april.
KJ + Chipper + Mc + Yunel = 18 HR
TEX has 15 all by himself
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
8:24 pm
Aren’t McCann and Johnson leadin’ de team wid 5 cribruns? What a joke!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
8:24 pm
Escobar still out, Bobby’s not sure when he’ll be back. Said he’s getting better, but not ready. Said they could go another few days like this, meaning at that point they’d have to consider DL.
McCann’s getting a day off. Nothing more than that.
LINEUP
1. Diory Hernandez, SS
2. Kotchman, 1B
3. Chipper, 3B
4. Prado, 2B
5. Diaz, LF
6. Francoeur, RF
7. Ross, C
8. Schafer, CF
9. Kawakami, RHP
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
8:25 pm
Braves GM, you get Manny the Dope-r and we fire you.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
8:29 pm
Ross, by the way, is 0-for-4 with four strikeouts against Randy Johnson.
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
8:29 pm
I love how Cox platoons Johnson and hold him out against lefties, whom he gots’ta been crushin’ since da damn start uh 2008.
Just dis year: 3 homers in 40 at-bats and a 1.075 OPS against lefties. In 2008, he wuz great in 150 at-bats.
What a DONK!
Goldenglove002
May 27th, 2009
8:29 pm
Ah, so Bobby finally remebered that Kelly Johnson isn’t a good leadoff hitter. To bad he forgot to plug him back into the lineup later. Prado as a cleanup hitter? We desrve to get swept.
Il Cattivo
May 27th, 2009
8:30 pm
Santana gave up 3 ER to the Nats in 4 innings. He’s at 90 pitches already.
Lew
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
PWJ-Dude, your 7:31 post sounds so Coach-like it’ scary. Bad scary.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Bravos2249–
Saltalamacchia has more votes tha…dangit. That DL stint really hurt Mac in the voting depot. Course, they shouldn’t start the voting in April, anyway…
Thanks for the lineup, Chief.
McCann’s getting a day off.
Darn.
Nothing more than that.
Good.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Baseballnut, tell your kid that Chipper does well against the Big Unit.
Goldenglove002
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Might as well put Francouer in the cleanup spot for this lineup. Who knows, maybe Chipper was right. Not like it could get any worse.
Lew
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Sorry, PWH- Eye’s still dilated and I can’t see to type.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:31 pm
Abwright I would still like McDowell to be fired. I still have yet to see him develop anybody or help the pen in any way.
randy marsh
May 27th, 2009
8:32 pm
I like Prado and love when he is in the lineup, but him batting cleanup shows a pretty weak lineup, but then again there is not much of a better option. Hes probably the best hitter this side of Chipper on the team. He’s probably the best clutch hitter in the lineup as well.
One things for sure, that bottom part of the lineup needed to be broken up. 6. Francouer, 7. Hernandez, 8. Schafer. 9. Pitcher. Talk about a black hole.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
8:32 pm
Prado as the cleanup hitter is a gigantic farce. MLB should investigate if the Braves are purposely throwing these games away.
Eric in WV
May 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
Good to see Bobby giving Hernandez a chance to leadoff. Strangely enough, I actually like this lineup tonight.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:33 pm
Ross, by the way, is 0-for-4 with four strikeouts against Randy Johnson.
Oh, that’s nice.
Well, McCann’s never faced him, so…
Daybed Wagmoe
May 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
A Francoeur trade to Boston would almost require the Braves to have another trade in place, wouldn’t it? It doesn’t seem that Boston would have any available OF — Ellsbury’s too affordable for too long, and he’s not a power bat anyway. Jason Bay is too productive and will be a free agent after this season, so it’d be another Teixeira/JD Drew trade and one that Wren probably wants to avoid. Balldelli and Drew are both injury risks. So who would we get in return from them? Doesn’t seem like they’d be a good match.
CB
May 27th, 2009
8:34 pm
Lew hope everything went well.
brian
May 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
that is an anemic lineup
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
Doc what stadium is most of Tex’s homeruns hit?
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
And of course CB, you have so much more to give to the blog, right? Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out lamer.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
CB Lew hope everything went well.
Me, too, Lew! How is everything?
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
Talked to someone in Braves organization who sort of dismissed the Red Sox rumor. Said he hadn’t heard one thing about them having any serious interest in Francoeur or scouting him recently.
Jes Saying
May 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
Ambrosine=Braves Fan 79. It’s obvious now. You’re not fooling us dude.
onionhead
May 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
The glass is half full people! Take any team in baseball and take away the 2,3,4,5 hitters away for significant time and then take 3 more hitters hitting .250 or less and guess where they would be in the standings! This team and management has found a way to be two and a half games out of first with all kind of things going wrong. If they can stay close like this, get and stay healthy and have some guys turn the corner. Well this could be a very good season after all. I just find it amazing this team is this close in a very tough division and people are jumping off bridges around here!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:36 pm
Santana walked 4 in a row and the Nats tie it up.
Mitchie-san
May 27th, 2009
8:37 pm
Prado is hitting clean-up? Is this what we have come to?
Daslied
May 27th, 2009
8:37 pm
There’s a lot of ridiculous stuff posted here, but the Wren-bashing takes the cake. Do those of you bashing him not realize that in the past 18 months he’s brought in your excellent 1-4 starters, your best utility guy, resigned your living legend, held fast to keep your brilliant shortstop and top prospects, brought in a very good backup catcher, salvaged the Teixeira trade by getting a good, young first baseman, effectively replaced an expensive, overrated LOOGY with a waiver claim and brought a Japanese fanbase to Atlanta?
You say “Smoltz!” Well, looks like he is done. You say “Dunn!”, but if he was here you’d bitch about his defense, strikeouts, price tag and lefthandedness. Josh Anderson? Come on. Get over it already.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
8:37 pm
Just saw Bay Area Steve, second day in a row he’s stopped by in front of the pressbox. (We’re at fan level, more so than any other ballpark. Can sit here and have a casual conversation with any fan standing in the aisle in front of me.)
He’s got on his McCann jersey. Wasn’t pleased when I told him Mac wasn’t in lineup tonight.
CB
May 27th, 2009
8:38 pm
Oh Jerry you are so entertaining!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:38 pm
Right now I’d think..numbers against Randy aside …Ross deserves to hit above Frenchy.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
8:39 pm
Well At least Bobby C. Listened to my rant…
I wonder How this blog will be if Diory goes 3-4…?
Anywayz Today is a Must Win…
Come On Braves This isn’t the Randy Johnson of 10 years ago, This Guy is beatbable. If we work the counts against this guy and implore the approach that had us going in the Jays series, then we will sneak this one out…
Otherwise If Randy goes 8 innings and gives up 4 hits then all Hell will break lose on this blog “Bank On It!”
Kamakaze needs to step up again but it may be too much to ask…
Braves win 4-2 in this one before heading to Arizona…
The lammer
May 27th, 2009
8:39 pm
That lineup can’t get any $&!?*. I can’t believe we’re gonna get swept by the Giants.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:39 pm
DOB He’s got on his McCann jersey. Wasn’t pleased when I told him Mac wasn’t in lineup tonight.
Aw…that makes me sad!
Edward
May 27th, 2009
8:40 pm
well at least Francoeur will see some pitches since he’s hitting in the 6th spot. i mean…that’s the whole problem right? Schafer and the pitcher batting behind him?
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
8:40 pm
I love Prado as a player, but when he is the cleanup hitter of your team, that means your offense is in deep trouble. Better get out on the market.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:41 pm
For everyone who is overreacting about Prado batting cleanup remember last time we were all whining about him hitting cleanup? We scored like 7 or 8 runs…Besides do we really have a good option? No we dont, stop blaming Bobby for a bad lineup when we have a bad team.
Interesting Decision
May 27th, 2009
8:42 pm
So Ross is not just 0-4 against Johnson but 0-4 with 4 k’s!
Your team is struggling to score runs and you take perhaps your best current hitter out of the lineup and replace him with a guy who is O’fer and all strikeouts against tonights starter?
Mac needs a day off I’m sure, but at least give him the off day when his replacement is not a guaranteed out! So not only do we not have our best hitter in the lineup, we got O’fers in the 6-7-8-9 spots in the order!
And that is what drives me nuts about this organization!
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
8:43 pm
semiballcoach
I could’ve kept right on going, but I figured I made my point.
mixxo
What? Picture like this?
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:43 pm
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:35 pm
And of course CB, you have so much more to give to the blog, right? Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out lamer.
Everyone here knows your are the second dumbest blogger. Only Mfin can top you.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
8:44 pm
Dammit Bobby C. Put D-Ross Ahead of Francoeur…Isn’t D-Ross third on the Braves Roster as far as homeruns hit against the giants since 2000? Behind Loaf and Hoss…?
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 27th, 2009
8:44 pm
I can’t help but get a little bummed whenever the lineup is posted, especially with McCann sitting. It’s kinda pitiful no matter how much you try to be optimistic. Certainly isn’t scaring any pitchers when they go over the scouting reports.
Oh well, hope Kawakami goes out and has another good one.
GO BRAVOS!!
Boo
May 27th, 2009
8:44 pm
Ross deserves to hit above Frenchy.
Kawakami deserves to hit above Frenchy.
JASON
May 27th, 2009
8:44 pm
Excellent article! Go team!
ZC Rider
May 27th, 2009
8:44 pm
Daybed Wagmoe:
I’m gonna go on a limb and that the Sox “interest” in Frenchy is a byproduct of the fact that they wouldn’t have to give up much. Don’t even mention Baldelli or Drew, we won’t get anyone from their 40 man roster.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:46 pm
Boo
LOL, first time I’ve laughed on here today. And it’s true he does.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Ross in and McCann out. Yep, that move in a nutshell says a lot about Bobby Cox and his ability to manage. The only way I could agree with this decision is if Bobby is sitting him down because maybe Ross will block the plate bit bit better.
Greetings
May 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Well Macon has another baseball team…The Macon Giants.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Interesting Decision,
Being 0-4 hardly makes someone a guaranteed out.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Aight You guys, I will Be Damned If we get Swepted by the Punchless Giants…I mean For Real…I’m Be On the nasty side if we don’t pull this game off…
I know Its early but I get tired of seeing this Punchless offense execute with Neolithic Incompotence each and every night
We used to own the N.L. West Back in the Day, Now they Own Us…
RHR
May 27th, 2009
8:48 pm
I like how I just spent 20 minutes talking to myself on the old blog.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
8:48 pm
I gotta agree with what somebody said earlier. If we’re gonna bat Prado cleanup, we might as well stick Frenchy there.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:48 pm
onionhead,”Well this could be a very good season after all. I just find it amazing this team is this close in a very tough division and people are jumping off bridges around here!”
Ok this really needs to stop. The NL EAST is one of the weakest division in baseball. There is not one complete team. That is why you can be 2.5 games while being .500 The Mets have bad starting pitching. The Phillies have horrible pitching. The Braves has the worse lineup in baseball and the Marlins have a ton of talent but havent put it together and the Nationals may be the worse team in baseball. This not a good division. Seriously 90 games will win it.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:49 pm
That hurts Eric.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:49 pm
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Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
Pardon Me, I just misspelled Swept…I gotta stop blogging and talking on facebook chat simultaneously while drinking screwdrivers…
Don’t be suprised if this blog becomes Pro NBA Playoffs talk after the 3rd inning, I thought the BSPN.com message boards were for that…
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
Ross in and McCann out. Yep, that move in a nutshell says a lot about Bobby Cox and his ability to manage
You do know that catchers require the, um, occasional day off, right?
njbraves
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
All the dummies are out tonight……
CB
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
RHR at least you were talking to somebody intelligent,right?
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
I like how I just spent 20 minutes talking to myself on the old blog. RHR
Haha…you could do worse.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
8:50 pm
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SPAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
I wonder what Mac will be thinking about in Arizona if Byrnes is on 3rd.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:47 pm
Ross in and McCann out. Yep, that move in a nutshell says a lot about Bobby Cox and his ability to manage
This is why everyone of your posts are ignorant. No catcher can catch every game. Yeah it sucks that Mac has to sit out games but there is no way he can play every night.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
Well Macon has another baseball team…The Macon Giants.
Huh? Not following. If your saying I should jump bandwagons, no thanks…..I’ve suffered through a lot worse seasons with the Bravos than the last few. I didn’t jump on in ‘91 and I won’t be jumping off at any time.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
RHR, LOL
I’ve done that before, its been awile but it happens
JJ
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
Phils down 5-1
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:51 pm
Besides David Ross has done pretty well this season.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
8:52 pm
bravos2249, That’s great! Might have to make a trip to the Ted that night!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:52 pm
Boo
That’s not Spam…I found it on the official site. You know Braves.com. If your being funny I understand but seriously come on.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
8:52 pm
Eric from MO,
Dont know but he hit a bomb to LF in the 1st inning in texas, and I can assure you that it would have gone out over the CF of any stadium on earth………. even the roman coliseum.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:52 pm
Interesting Decision–
Yeah, he needs a day off, but my word…Since coming off the DL, McCann has hit–brace yourself–.412 against left-handed pitchers. To go with that AVG, he has an OBP of .474, a SLG of .471, a double, 3 RBI, 2 walks, and only 1 SO in 19 PA.
So, yeah, not a ton of PA, but still–not bad.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:53 pm
Roman Gal
Lowe is projected to pitch that night…according to ESPN, and my counting..lol
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
Jerry H. The only way I could agree with this decision is if Bobby is sitting him down because maybe Ross will block the plate bit bit better.
Oh lord have mercy…
Interesting Decision
May 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
Roman Gal
being 0-4 with 4 strikeouts against a certain pitcher puts him in Schafer territory! That’s about as guaranteed as it gets!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:54 pm
McFann Ô
Either way Randy has not looked like Randy in his last 3 or 4 starts, so we’ll see what happens. lol. I don’t think Ross is horrible but we’ll see.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:55 pm
Doc big deal. He dont play for us and IMO no position player is worth 20 mil per year. Actually no player is worth 20 mil per year.
Savannah Guy
May 27th, 2009
8:55 pm
Just saw Bay Area Steve, second day in a row he’s stopped by in front of the pressbox.
Was his McCann jersey all wrinkled and hair mussed up like he’d, uh, spent the night in back of that pressbox? Cheap whiskey makes for a long double header.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
8:55 pm
I know. But ever since receiving my first spam a week ago, I’m kinda “on” it.
Bouma Zongo offered me 10 million U.S. dollars from the Bank of Africa.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:56 pm
McFann Ô
Well 2 blockable WP, and 2 plays where he came out in front of the plate garners that little criticism. Especially with KK pitching.lol
RHR
May 27th, 2009
8:56 pm
I also like how DOB added a heart to his last paragraph. We heart you too, DOB. <3
beachcomber
May 27th, 2009
8:56 pm
My God. The team of Hank, Justice, McGriff, Gant, the Big Cat etc. has Martin Prado batting clean-up tonight. Good little ballplayer but the frigging clean-up hitter?
We have issues.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:56 pm
Doc go be a Yankees fan.
ZC Rider
May 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
McCann hasn’t faced Johnson for a reason; very few lefties get a chance to face Johnson.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
8:57 pm
And of course Eric, you think that the Braves have a shot at 90 wins? Now, who is a dumb blogger? That is as stupid a comment as you can make. The Braves will have a successful season if they win more than they lose. The last time the Braves won more than lost was 2007 and they had 4 players who drove in more than 90 runs that year. Who on this current team do you see driving in 90 or better? I doubt that Chipper will get the chance to with his injuries and the way pitchers pitch around him.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
8:58 pm
Eric from MO
To elaborate, he’s proven he can’t hit without Arod in the lineup. Which means he gets more fastballs. Anyone that can’t carry a team by himself, at least while hitting 3rd, ain’t worth no darn 20 million per.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
8:58 pm
So when did 0-4 become a trend. Sounds like a bad game to me.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
8:58 pm
bravos2249–
I don’t think he’ll do too bad, either. And Ross playing give me less to think about when the game’s goin’ on and I’m trying to sleep.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
9:00 pm
McFann
Amen…lol. I still can’t believe the game started at 9 pm (here) last night and ended before midnight (here)
Eric from MO
To elaborate, he’s proven he can’t hit without Arod in the lineup. Which means he gets more fastballs. Anyone that can’t carry a team by himself, at least while hitting 3rd, ain’t worth no darn 20 million per.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
9:00 pm
Jerry no, I picked them to finish 3rd. I picked the Phillies to win 90. Difference I at least dont over react about everything.
Exactly Bravos, how was he doing when Arod was out?
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:00 pm
bravos2249 Well 2 blockable WP, and 2 plays where he came out in front of the plate garners that little criticism.
Yeah yeah…He blocked that one pitch as best he could, and Fred Lewis was SO freaking out…
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
9:01 pm
Interesting Decision,
Omar Infante vs. Johan Santana is what ownage looks like. David Ross was a different man back then, and he didn’t have the formidable combination of Jordan Schafer and Kenshin Kawakami hitting behind him back then either.
bruce
May 27th, 2009
9:01 pm
It is great to have Chipper back, no doubt, even slowed with pain… but the holes seem so significant without Escobar in the lineup…. seems like when Kelly bats lower and Escobar leads off we have a completely different level of offensive potency. For me a completely different level of hope even before the game begins
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
9:01 pm
So the question now Jerry who is the dumber bloggger? hmmmmmmmmmmm
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
RHR, could’ve been worse – MFin04 and Jerry could have been talking back to you!
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
Got a guess, Lew? I still haven’t gotten any.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
9:02 pm
Eric from MO
Tex was hitting .198 with 3 homers before Arod got back. Now he’s hitting .280 with 15 jacks.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
Yeah, Ross has done well this year, with all of his .263 average. Dumb!
bruce
May 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
McFann:
Good perspective @ 8:58
ps where are the guidelines on how to bold or do other special character stuff…
gonna watch a movie for a bit here….
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:03 pm
bravos2249–
It started at 10:15 here…yeah, it really stinks.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
McFann Ô
Still he has to be scared to recieve a catch at the plate. After Brynes and Victorino. He needs to realize not everyone is going to knock him out. No pun intended.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Jamie Foxx on the George Strait isn’t dead yet but he’s getting pretty old tribute special? Huh.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
9:04 pm
Yeah, Ross has done well this year, with all of his .263 average. Dumb!
Yeah, he has. .382 OPB and .492 SLG. Dumb!
oh SNAP!
May 27th, 2009
9:05 pm
Jerry Holcombe
Ross lead the team/was tied with the lead in homers for awhile. He’s got 3 homers buddy. He ain’t no Corky or Pratt. Get OVER it. Mac can’t play 162.
CB
May 27th, 2009
9:05 pm
Oh Jerry, you keep making such nice friends like McFann and Eric from MO, your making your mother so happy!
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
9:06 pm
I was thinking it was something like that Bravos.
Jerry he has a .380 OBP and 3 homeruns in 57 at bats. If take that with a normal amount of plate appearances,600, he would hit 35. The BA is an overated statistic, which is greatly outweighed by his OBP. OBP has much more to do with winning than BA. Once again you show why you are a moron.
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
9:07 pm
Roman Gal – What? Picture like this?
Hawt!!
9:01 = good stuff too!
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
9:08 pm
Eric from MO,
Are you a lissencephalic patient?
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:09 pm
Bravos2249
It seems to me that the market dictates a player’s value rather than our opinions of that player. I think 20 million is way too much to pay for anything, but I don’t have that kind of money to throw around. A few mlb teams do. I do not think that Teixeira’s lack of performance in the early season is indicative of anything other than his career norm. Tex has always been a slow starter and given time he likely would have produced with or without A-Roid in the lineup.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
9:10 pm
Oooh, big word from Doc. We’re all impressed..
Rob (from SC)
May 27th, 2009
9:10 pm
DOB
Any news on wether Medlen will get the ball on Sunday
RHR
May 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
I also like how DOB addressed every one of the recent comments in today’s blog and yet…the same tired crap is still being hashed, rehashed, backed up and ran over again.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
9:11 pm
Danga while market shows the value of a player doesnt mean much to me. Look last year at the Rays. The Rays werent making much more than Arod. Now would you rather have the whole Rays team or just Arod?
Urban Braves Fan is a shmuck
May 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
AJC – must we be subjected to this racist crap. It’s not funny or clever in any way.
Or does the AJC wish to drive away all african american bloggers?
cs95
May 27th, 2009
9:12 pm
so DOB what are the braves options for patchwork til july? with bobby’s patience is frenchy really gonna get playing everyday until then? I don’t mind schafer struggling as much cause his defense is plus and he has those good ABs sometimes. love the blog! thanks!
Interesting Decision
May 27th, 2009
9:13 pm
Roman Gal “David Ross was a different man back then, and he didn’t have the formidable combination of Jordan Schafer and Kenshin Kawakami hitting behind him back then either.”
LOL
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
9:14 pm
RHR
You mean that stuff at the top of the page? You think we should really be bothered to read that stuff? Hah! You’re losing it, I tell ya!
flange1
May 27th, 2009
9:16 pm
Lew,
Just got home and saw you on the board, hope all went well and they gave you some good meds!
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:19 pm
Eric from MO
The whole Rays team any day. No doubt they developed a team the right way, but it took a lot of painful seasons to get them to that point. There is certainly no way that team stays together without some serious cash being sunk into it at some point. Who doubts that Longoria won’t one day make A-Roid kind of money? That is the challenge smaller market teams face. They have to be great at identifying and developing talent in order to keep putting competitive teams on the field because they’ll never be able to keep that kind of talent together.
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
RHR – similar thought on Jamie Foxx (not a huge country fan, but I’d be happy to look as good as George at his age (is 57 really that old?) – which is closer than I’d like to admit).
RHR
May 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
You’re right, Roman Gal. First talking to myself and then thinking people read. Next thing you know I’ll probably turn into a Frenchy fan. Oh how I weep for my lost youth.
Speaking of youth, nscoots, your comment about park adjusted age on the last blog made me choke on my drink. Funniest comment I’ve read today.
Lew, hope everything went well today.
ABravesFan
May 27th, 2009
9:20 pm
Never thought I would say this but why not trade for Andruw Jones for now then closer to the deadline pick up one of the big time bats that are going to be available.
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:22 pm
…But I’m not saying anything that everyone doesn’t already know.
Goldenglove002
May 27th, 2009
9:23 pm
man, I really hate these games out west. So bored waiting for the game.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
9:23 pm
Does anyone else hate the taste of all beer? Friggin’ nasty.
JJ
May 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Now 5-2 Marlins
RHR
May 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Hey Jim, George is hot for an older man. I don’t think he’s old really, I mean, he’s younger than my dad, (which, by the way, is my qualifier for how old is too old) and he’s a country music legend. I just don’t get this tribute thing, it’s like he’s dead or 95 or something. Which is why I called it whatever I did.
Surprisingly, Jamie Foxx ain’t half bad of a singer.
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Well, there’s 2 markets. The market for players and the market for players that the Yankees make offers to. The latter is a much steeper market.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
9:24 pm
Who’s overreacting Eric? I’ve consistantly pointed out what I think are the flaws to this team. You haven’t see me once jump on the bandwagon when we win a few games, and then follow that up with b!tching when we lose a few. That is overreacting. In fact, I bet you and I see more eye-to-eye on this team than you are willing to admit. Probably the biggest difference is that I think it’s funny as hell how many ways this team can find to lose games. Just goes to show that life is a cycle of events. The Braves are well on their way to those oh so lonesome days of the 70s & 80s. Outside of their top 3 pitchers, they are already there. And the only thing that gives any hope of avoiding such a collapse is their minor league system.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
9:25 pm
did anyone see the Mets F-Mart not running out a pop up to the catcher in fair territory. Note the catcher didn’t catch it and he was out at 1st.
stew
May 27th, 2009
9:26 pm
Two great bands – Pixies and Jesus and Mary Chain. I know them well. I prefer the Jesus and Mary Chain’s version of “Head On”. How about Cody, Gorkys, and the Hey man? Could they
be any worse? I know we’d be rushing them but so what. .
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:26 pm
Bruce–
Haha, thanks!
Here are the instructions for making smilies.
And here are the instructions for bolding, italicizing, linking, etc. I’ve updated it with new features such as bold italics and making bold links–that’s why I’m a little late with it.
Enjoy the movie!
bravos2249–
Yeah, I’m sure he’s thinking about that a little bit. [sigh]…you don’t know how bad I want him to make a really good, pain-free out at the plate…especially now…
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
9:26 pm
Next thing you know I’ll probably turn into a Frenchy fan. RHR
You’ve got a support group here who will never let that happen.
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:27 pm
Very true there PWHjort. I just hope the Yankees keep finding ways to spend all that money while continuing not to win WS titles.
Mitchie-san
May 27th, 2009
9:28 pm
Whoa….whoa…whoa… ALL BEER??? Now thats the craziest thing said on the blog in a while. Crazier than a Francoeur for Bay trade…
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
9:28 pm
RHR – some kind of Artist of the Decade Award – just another excuse to gather all the stars and get ratings since this is a rare week with no awards show – not that there’s anything wrong with that.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
Jerry, why on Earth do u call yourself a fan?
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:29 pm
Dangit McFann! I was looking forward to finally learning to use bold and italics and you go leading me on with that false link. Shame on you!
Terence More
May 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
Doesn’t suprise me at all that Boston has been scouting JF. They are the best organization in baseball. JF, like all FOUR of the great youngsters we sent to Texas, is a byproduct of the Braves Minor League system (also the best in baseball). I’ll bet money JF has a higher BA and more RBI’s (THIS SEPTEMBER) than the guy he is traded for.
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
9:30 pm
RHR, a kind word from you is the sun rising in the east over the pines. Much thanks. You and our other distaff bloggers are very much un-lame, BTW.
OK, with maybe the exception of gayle, but I don’t know if that blogger is female. Sure ain’t no lady, though…more broom and bad monkeys, I’m thinking.
woogidy
May 27th, 2009
9:31 pm
Well, to drink or not to drink while watching this one tonight…
Boo
May 27th, 2009
9:31 pm
Whoa….whoa…whoa… ALL BEER???
Yeah, all beer. It tastes horrible. I think people “make” themselves like it because it is a cheap way to get drunk or something. Nasty, nasty liquid.
N8
May 27th, 2009
9:32 pm
“He’s got on his McCann jersey.” DOB
Yeah, but does he have a Whitesnake T-Shirt on under it?
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
9:34 pm
test
testnumba2
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:35 pm
Boo. That is just crazy talk.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
9:36 pm
SoWeGa exactly! A fan doesnt laugh when his team loses. Besides our trio of pitchers is what great teams are built around. I have said since September it would take 2 years(2010) for us to be good again and thats if we built our team right. Which we have. I have no problem being .500 this year and being good next year. We had so many holes at the end of last year you couldnt relistically expect Wren to fix it all in one offseason. There isnt enough time. I just hope we dont trade for Holiday. Lets keep those prospects for a good offseason trade. Also gives us a couple more months to know which prospects to keep.
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
9:36 pm
Pretty crazy that the five pitchers the Royals used today were all Braves prospects or at least once on the team.
We’re like a feeder system of suckiness.
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
9:37 pm
Well hell, by all means, we must get Ross into the lineup more often.
ZC Rider
May 27th, 2009
9:38 pm
For everyone who still wants to see Logan in the leadoff spot, he should become a second table setter by batting 9th.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
DirtyYuni
Yeah I want Davies with those 8 runs given up today.
CB
May 27th, 2009
9:39 pm
Oh Jerry now SoWeGa Fanatic loves you!
LOST-BRAVE
May 27th, 2009
9:41 pm
just look at all the all-star talent the braves have traded in the last 4 years. enough said right there
for really what? 1 year stop-gap fixe’s? Salty,LaRoach, ANDREW(YEAH I’M INCLUDING HIM)
i know some left as free agent’s, but there seem’s to be a pattern here, braves have talent-braves
trade talent,or refuse to pay for talent. rfan’s are going to see through cox’s and js. crap sooner or later hopefully? half the all-star team’s are going to be filled with ex-braves, if playing for cox is so
great why is all of this all-star talent not playing for cox.period
Mitchie-san
May 27th, 2009
9:42 pm
“Nasty, Nasty liquid.”
Wow, you must have had one type of beer in your life. You do realize there are literally thousands of different types and flavors.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:43 pm
Danga–
False link? Shoot…sorry about that. Lemme try again:
(This is for you, too, Bruce):
Link
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
9:43 pm
Yeah, but does he have a Whitesnake T-Shirt on under it?
Dude is more Wu-Tang than Whitesnake, bro.
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
9:44 pm
So, Every Brave fan should wait on next year ?!
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
9:44 pm
Jerry H – just curious, since I’ve been in and out – is your point that McCann should play every game all year?
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
McFann
Gracias! That one works.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
9:45 pm
CB, I love everyone, even idiots.
Jeff321
May 27th, 2009
9:46 pm
Adrian Gonzalez just hits #18.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:47 pm
OK, that one works. I was somewhat suspicious when my link showed up in blue letters. Usually when it’s a link that you’ve visited already it shows up in gray letters.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
9:48 pm
Danga–
You’re welcome! Always happy to be of service!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
9:48 pm
Since the Braves first announced Medlen was coming up to the majors, Hanson has made three starts and gone 2-0 while allowing one run, eight hits and four walks with 23 strikeouts in 20 innings.
That qualifies for a “Wow.”
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
9:49 pm
N8, no he doesn’t have a Whitesnake T-shirt under it. Because he seems like a pretty cool dude, see. And Whitesnake is not cool.
Capiche?
CB
May 27th, 2009
9:49 pm
Oh Jerry you are just the center of attention! Maybe you won’t have to that old nasty stuff any more!
JJ
May 27th, 2009
9:50 pm
6-2 going to the bottom of the 9th
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
9:50 pm
Well, to drink or not to drink while watching this one tonight…
Great options to have! Coffee and a pastry will have to do here while I try to get some work done. *SIGH* how nice to be able to watch the games at normal hours….
You know, the sad thing about Frenchy is that a change of scenery might do him wonders. I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him put up some excellent numbers and rebuild his career away from his hometown and with the tutelage of a decent hitting instructor. KC or Cleveland, anyone? How about Seattle? An outfield with Frenchy and Ichiro- now that’d cut down on runners taking an extra base! Boston would be a horrible choice- if he’s raked over the coals on this blog, can you imagine the Fenway denizens after a game or two where he’s left a boatload of runners on base?
Regardless, Frenchy needs a fresh start somewhere, and we need to get something of decent value in return, whether that’s now, or later in the season.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
9:50 pm
Damn Adam Dunn Has 16 Homers…”Can I get a F-You” to the Braves F.O. in that they didn’t pursue him, Knowing damn well our AWFense would look like this after 40+ games
Theo Epstein
May 27th, 2009
9:53 pm
The Braves offical is mistake, as the Red Sox have been scouting Francoeur–for clubhouse attendant. You surely cannot imagine that a stupid, undisciplined sack of garbage like Francoeur will ever be allowed the priveledge of donning a Boston uniform.
It is impressive that such a worthless player, is given so many opportunities to fail. Looks like the Braves have become a loser franchise.
c jonze
May 27th, 2009
9:54 pm
I don’t think the F.O. thought he would not hit HRs, they did not have $10 million a year to spend on Dunn.
Danga
May 27th, 2009
9:54 pm
Oh please don’t let that comment start the N8 vs DOB musical taste arguement.
Richard
May 27th, 2009
9:56 pm
When will the blame for our poor offense finally be laid onto the man whose job is supposed to be helping the hitters? Terry Pendleton has no idea how to help a hitter because he just waits for them to come to him. A real hitting instructor sees that there is a problem and immediatle starts working with the player to correct it.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
9:57 pm
I hope Chipper does more than his “early single then take the night off” thing tonight.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
9:58 pm
Tokyo Bravo…
Have A Tokyo Tea while Your watching this game…
Its Tomahawkin’s Signature drink when he goes out…
Its a Long Island with Midori Liqeuor and Sprite instead of topping it off with Coke (Which I think Is more bitter)
And BTW, It Get’s You F’d Up quick…
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
9:59 pm
My bad ! I thought Dunn had 18 ! still outstanding ! Where are you people who said Dunn was a liability in the field ! where are you ?!
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
9:59 pm
Anyone know why on all the photos of the possible Brave trade acquisition candidates, it says “AP” underneath? I’m just curious.
Does that refer to the photos? Or is the stuff DOB writes for the AJC picked up by the AP? It’s slightly confusing for my brittle, feeble mind.
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
10:00 pm
Yes they did have the money !! They went and got KK !!
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:01 pm
Well The Mets are Slapping the Nats…It seems like the Braves are the only team that the Nats can beat, Go Figure?
Phillies are losing which is good
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:01 pm
AP = “Associated Press”
Jerry Holcombe
May 27th, 2009
10:01 pm
SoWeGa, beats the hell outta me. Truth to tell, I was a diehard fan from the time the Braves came here in 1966. Until I went into the military, I never missed a game. Throughout the terrible 70s and 80s with only a few winning years mixed in, I still rooted for the Braves. I think what happened is that I just got so used to the winning during the 90s and early 2000s. Now, I see a team that, in a lot of ways, resembles those cellar dwellers of decades past and rather than lose sleep about it, I laugh about it. At any rate, it’s time to call it a night.
JJ
May 27th, 2009
10:02 pm
Yikes….Marlins up 6-2. Bot 9 Phils have loaded bases with 2 out and Rollins up.
Greg
May 27th, 2009
10:03 pm
Here’s some good news for a change. Saw the Myrtle Beach Pelicans play yesterday. Heyward was awesome. Cody Johnson played well. Freeman was a non-factor. But watching Heyward, you can see that he will be an impact player. Hope he’s in AA by end of year and in Atlanta. Kid reminds me of a young Eric Davis. Fierce talent, great love of the game, and speed. He beat out an infield single.
JJ
May 27th, 2009
10:05 pm
Ballgame. Rollins lined out to center. Braves can pick up one game tonight.
Tomas
May 27th, 2009
10:08 pm
I think Frenchy still has some value. He is still very young at age 25, he plays gold glove defense and has one of the best if not the best arm in RF. And offcourse there’s alway’s the potential for power he has shown in the past. Not only that, he also has improved a bit from last year.
I think the Braves should trade him. Unfortunately the Braves can’t keep giving him the patience he needs to find his groove once again. They have some pretty good outfielders in the minors a.k.a. (Jayson Heyward, Gorkys Hernandez, and Cody Johnson). They only need a 2 year rental.
I think for obvious reason they won’t trade for a guy like Matt Holliday, they don’t want anothe Mark Texeira situation(in Holliday’s case he’ll be a FA after this year) so he doesn’t fit, he’d only be a 2 month rental.
But not only do the Braves need an outfielder, but they need a quality power hitter who bats right handed(considering all their best prospects are left handed, and this is an already left handed dominated lineup).
Jermaine Dye is a good choice. He is under contract till the end of this year, and has a mutual option worth 12 million(which he’d better agree because frankly after seeing the market for this year’s outfielders, he won’t get anything better than that).
Brad Hawpe is a good candidate, but he is left handed.
Magglio makes too much money(and his performance has been dropping, especially his power).
Jayson Werth won’t be traded to a division rival.
Josh Willingham, or Austin Kearns are not an improvement.
Corey Hart if the Brewers fall out of contention.
Brian Giles is left handed and is hitting 158.
Delmon Young seems to be an ideal candidate, but his power figures the last few years haven’t been particularly great.
Nelson Cruz, seems ideal but not sure if texas would trade him.
Randy Winn good profesional hitter but not a power hitter.
Aubrey Huff good candidate, but hasn’t played the outfield in the past few years and he is left handed.
Luke Scott good candidate, but he is left handed.
Mark Derrosa good candidate but a FA after this year and not exactly the best outfielder.
Ichiro Suzuki, would fill the leadoff position, be an immediate impact player. But it will be tough for the MAriners to trade him but if I were them I wouldn’t be on no listen mode. He is under contract until 2012 and is making 17 mill/per year, so it’s a pretty big commitments.
Xavier Nady, the guy needs shoulder surgery is a FA after this season.
Nick Swisher, no way the Yanks trade him the way he is hitting, and they need him after Nady’s injury.
The most realistic candidates are Jermaine Dye, Brad Hawpe, Mark Derrosa, and Delmon Young.
Dooley
May 27th, 2009
10:10 pm
In regards to Pendleton… I always liked him as a player, but that doesn’t make him qualified to be a hitting instructor. It is concerning that one of our key players (Francoeur) went outside the organization to fix his problematic swing. I’d like to know what the inside buzz from the clubhouse is in terms of the players’ feelings about TP being the hitting coach.
Pau Gasol
May 27th, 2009
10:11 pm
I yell too much…
pryguy
May 27th, 2009
10:11 pm
Let’s salvage one tonight!!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
10:12 pm
Talked to Huddy about his return to throwing off mound yesterday. He threw 15 pitches yesterday, 20 today, and now will start skipping a day and building up quickly to 75 pitches, where he was in spring training before his prescribed rest period.
He said his arm feels better than in has in years, and that it’s obvious now to him that something was wrong, and now it’s fixed. In other words, sounds like he’d learned to pitch with the pain or discomfort before, to point where he didn’t notice it. But now that it’s gone, he notices it.
No More Bobby
May 27th, 2009
10:12 pm
Love your blogs David but lets hold off on using words like surging until this team is in first place with a nice lead. Seems like each time you post a positive blog the team goes on another losing streak. Ha!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
10:14 pm
Been a BB fan for a million years, but this is the first year I have heard the term “professional hitter”, now everyone is one. Someone please explain that. Fad, is my supposition.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:15 pm
Steve from OH,
If I was to impress you a 3 letter word would do……….. better stay off my way since I was not talking to you. Just stay away, dont wanna be rude with you, so back off, not interested in talking with a guy like you. Have a good night.
Goldenglove002
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
K number 1. Glad I have Johnson on my fantasy team.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
from the first-base-line club level here at AT&T Park, both the view (bay bridge, marina, bay, etc) and the bluecheese fries from the Guinness stand … sublime.
Heath (Cleveland)
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
I already like Diory in the lead-off position…took 7 pitches to get him out.
David..(Athens, AL)
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
that was a ball to Hernandez
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
Tomahawkin-
Tokyo tea, huh? Sounds tempting. With summer coming up, though, something lighter might be nice. Maybe an oolong tea-shochu (shochu is a liquor between 20-40% alcohol), or shochu and lemon or lime juice. Nice, mellow buzz, that. Really takes the pain out of another Frenchy K, say, or reading virtually anything from the goofball-du-jour (that’s be Urban, Yoji, or the stangely MIa MariettaDerek) on this blog. Now THAT’S double pits to chesty!
Ah, the nostalgia…..
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
Well Another F’d Up call by the Umpire, At least Diory worked the count
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
10:17 pm
Darn – for a minute, I thought we had a real leadoff hitter.
Whiskey Pete
May 27th, 2009
10:18 pm
Randy Johnson has been stinking it up lately. I like the Braves’ chances.
Poor guy, though. 6-10 with back problems. 2 surgeries. He’s crazy to keep playing.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:18 pm
Good job bailing Johnson out there ump. He was all over the place during that Hernandez AB but still got the strike 3 that was off the plate.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:18 pm
Oh and Steve from OH,
If you are an ignorant, just dont let everybody else know about it, sometimes is better to keep your mouth shut. As they say………If you dont have anything good to say, better not talk (write in this case).
brian
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
great news about Hudson. I am excited for him. It would not surprise me at all for him to regain his dominating form we saw in Oakland. I hope he can come back, the Braves exercise their option, and he can remain a Brave for a while.
Lowe, Hudson, Jurrjens, Hanson, Kawakami/Medlen – very strong 5 for next year and that is assuming that vazquez gets traded for a bat and/or prospects
Il Cattivo
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
Have they mentioned their facebook page yet?
Are they just stalking young kids on facebooks or what.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
I think Most People in the south go with the Jack D. to watch this offense…
Personally I can’t F… with the Brown…
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
Swing the bats guys, strikezone is huge tonight…looks like anyway.
Hope we get those calls.
Turtsnap
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
Just a bit inside on Hernandez, a case where the vet got the call over the rookie by the ump
brian
May 27th, 2009
10:19 pm
Johnson is not crazy for continuing to play. If I could smell 300 wins I would do all I could to get there as well
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
10:20 pm
So are the Sox scouting Francouer or not? In this blog I believe you said a source confirmed they were not… but now there’s a story on AJC that says they are. Forgive me if you addressed this and I missed it (which is very possible), DOB, but what gives?
Heath (Cleveland)
May 27th, 2009
10:20 pm
Two batters…two deep counts… That’s progress.
Goldenglove002
May 27th, 2009
10:22 pm
number 2. I just have a feeling this will be a long night.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
10:22 pm
If Chipper’s gonna have ab’s like that it’ll be a LONG night.
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
10:22 pm
that ball was 2 inches off the ground……and its a strike? lets just pray kawakami gets that same strike zone because if he does he could go nine….
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:23 pm
Man Even Now I wonder have we thrown away the Gray road unis…I haven’t seen us wear those in a Gripp!
We Might be in for a Snorefest from our offense tonight…I hate to say it…I’d rather see us get to Randy early. He already looks settled in…
RHR
May 27th, 2009
10:23 pm
Awww sweet, nscoots. PS – I had to look up “distaff”.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
10:23 pm
Doc, you’re right, I was outta line. Apologies. I guess getting browbeat by all the negativity does that to a blogger. You won’t hear from me again unless you address me first. (P.S.–I’m not ignorant. Far from)
If Randy Johnson is gonna get those calls, it’s gonna be a long night…
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
10:24 pm
What does the PFX stand for on MLB Gameday?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:24 pm
Game-Plan 4 KamaKaze Don’t let that Ishikawa Dude Beat You, Nuff Said, And No walks!!!
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:26 pm
Renteria is killing us this series as well…
Il Cattivo
May 27th, 2009
10:26 pm
When Diory came up to bat for an instant I thought it was JJ. Their stance looks so similar.
Kevin McGlinchy
May 27th, 2009
10:26 pm
Hey DOB, I was in SF yesterday and went to a game at AT&T Park for the first time. Where does it rank on your all-time list of favorite ballparks?
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:27 pm
Tomas,
Whats Frenchys value? theres nothing good about him but his arm. His range and read of balls out of the bat is not good…………average at best.
I would love for him to stay and be like Mc, but I also got tired of waiting, he has been given the opportunity, he didnt take advantage of it.
The Truth
May 27th, 2009
10:27 pm
What has Jeff Francoeur done to deserve the 6th spot in the batting order? Ross should be hitting there.
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
10:27 pm
There goes the no-hitter for Kenshin.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:28 pm
Kamakaze not looking good early… everything is right down Broadway!
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:28 pm
The real KK is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bruce
May 27th, 2009
10:28 pm
McFann
Thanks! I hope. Bruce
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
10:28 pm
KK’s getting killed so far.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
Redstick19 – a general rule of thumb regarding trade rumors is to ask yourself… “what the hell would the red sox want with Jeff Francoeur?” if your answer is like mine then you’ll know before you even read the story that there’s likely not much to it.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
How do you say “You are not throwing batting practice.” in Japanese?
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
Have to say I am very happy that the BIG Eunch is going for his 299th win tonight and not that coveted 300th. We don’t need him with another highlight game vs. us again, that no hitter still stings in my mind. That being said let’s knock this old man around! Go Braves.
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
Double pits t’chesty!
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
Good job, KK!!
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
good pitch!!!!
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:29 pm
wow, and we thought Mac was slow??
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
Yep the real KK is back. Nice double play.
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
Great job KK – way to prove me wrong!
Kevin McGlinchy
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
Driver8, that was actually a perfect game. Far more humiliating than a mere no-hitter.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
One thinks he knows the definition of “slow” when he sees McCann and Kotchman run, yet Bengie Molina redefines the word.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
I love The DP! Only exception is when We are hitting into them with no one or 1 out…
Way to be Clutch KK
abwright
May 27th, 2009
10:31 pm
bravos2249, 8:38 pm…”Right now I’d think..numbers against Randy aside …Ross deserves to hit above Frenchy.”
Didn’t you hear? Francœur can only hit if someone behind him “protects him.”
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:31 pm
Steve from OH,
Apologies accepted, I was just irritated by that airheads comment. My comment toward you was not personal. Always glad to blog with or anybody else that doesnt acts like a wiseaxx. Cheers pal.
R. Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:31 pm
Braves will be my stepping stone to 299 wins
R. Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:32 pm
Bring out the brooms!!
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:32 pm
Kevin Mac….you are correct sir! .. More salt on the wound… thanks for reminding me. I thought I was in denial over something. A complete game. Yes thanks again. Lets hope we can put the old dog down early tonight.
dylan w/o the dead
May 27th, 2009
10:33 pm
I know how to fix the braves of problems we shoot hank aaron full of hgh and give him the lf spot that way he could help us with our power outage and he could set the al time HR record…. again.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:33 pm
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:30 pm
I love The DP! Only exception is when We are hitting into them with no one or 1 out…
You mean you dont like them with two outs.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
10:33 pm
You’re welcome, Bruce! Always happy to be of service!
Dooley
May 27th, 2009
10:33 pm
SoWeGa Fanatic- It has to do with measuring break on a pitch… a detailed explanation on the link below
http://gameday.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/05/pfx_vs_brk_and_pitch_types.html
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:34 pm
I hope Frenchy is paying attention to how many balls Johnson is showing and takes a few pitches.
Richard's Mohawk
May 27th, 2009
10:34 pm
I like strip clubs.
R. Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:34 pm
Im going to get francoeur out on one pitch. Everyone just watch.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:35 pm
Haha.. I could swear I heard somebody yell “you suck Frenchy” from the stands.. in San Fran.
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
10:35 pm
uh oh….randy smells another no hitter.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:35 pm
Man This Offense…Insert Words Here…?
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:35 pm
That balls off the wall in Boston.
R. Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
Easy inning.
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
only if he still had the mullet….
Polterbubba
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
Anybody who hasn’t head the term “professional hitter” has been following baseball for “a million years” in another counrty…
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
Watch fast folks, this is gonna be a quick one!
Heath (Cleveland)
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
The 4/5/6 guys were not very patient there… Johnson:
Inning 1: 19 pitches
Inning 2: 10 pitches
Ambrosine
May 27th, 2009
10:36 pm
Haha.. I could swear I heard somebody yell “you suck Frenchy” from the stands.. in San Fran.
Bay Area Steve?
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
10:37 pm
You guys catch Zambrano’s meltdown today? Epic.
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:38 pm
DOB but the Gatorade still works in the dugout….
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:38 pm
Seriously, Anyone agree that Joe and Boog Need to start calling this offense and TP out…? 45+ or – games into the season and we have been shutout 5 times…
Come On!!!!
woogidy
May 27th, 2009
10:38 pm
To drink.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
10:38 pm
You guys catch Zambrano’s meltdown today? Epic.
Oh, yeah! Not often you see a player eject an umpire…
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:39 pm
Tomahawkin why do they need to call out the offense. We all know the offense blows. It would just be a waste of time.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:39 pm
What did that poor Gatorade machine ever do to him? Seriously though, it really looked like the ump initiated the contact and Zambrano was just reacting.
Justin B.
May 27th, 2009
10:39 pm
The braves have the most boringest offense In baseball no power no speed just a boring offense to watch.
Polterbubba
May 27th, 2009
10:39 pm
That was Frank Wren Ambrosine…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:39 pm
D.O.B.
L.M.A.O. at the Zambrano Showing today, Our players need to play with that kind of emotion. Then maybe you’d see more people come out to the ted than the 15-22,000 showings…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:40 pm
There is the FB mention, Time 4 a drink, lol
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:40 pm
Oh there was facebook. YAY! I forgot all about it!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
10:41 pm
Ishikama hitting against Kawakami.
Ishikawakami.
OK, bleu cheese has gone to my head.
Vinings Jim
May 27th, 2009
10:42 pm
Perhaps some of the bloggers need to hear Boog’s internet rant.
CorkylikesBeer
May 27th, 2009
10:42 pm
DOB..did you mean Guinness?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:42 pm
Eric From Mo…
If Skip was Still Doing the Games Do you think He would have already called out the offense…?
Just out of curiousity?
RHR
May 27th, 2009
10:42 pm
There is no reason why DOB’s facebook fan group shouldn’t have 6000+ members. Other than the fact that we don’t have DOB pimping it out on tv 128 times per broadcast 3 or 4 times per week.
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
I am realizing that KK is a very slight dude. I mean he’s not Lincecum skinny but still not a big guy. He is listed at 5-11 200 lbs. I don’t buy it.
DOB, is KK a small guy or is the TV playing tricks with me?
MP31
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
Which ever one of yall told me yesterday that KK was good. BULLSH*T. I told you
No More Bobby
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
I could see Jeff doing well in Boston. Would be nice to see him revive his career somewhere else because there is a major chemistry problem with him here. (TP, Bobby, cough cough)
Get ready for the number 7 jersey sale at Turner by All Star Break!
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
Loved watching Zambrano tossing the ump, although that’s gonna cost him a few games
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
Wow, that was nearly a colossal Ishikawakami homer to the drink.
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
Maybe Johnson will throw that perfect game. Seeing as how the braves have scored exactly 2 runs in 2 games so far doesn’t give me much confidence that they will be any more entertaining this game either.
At least a perfect game attempt would be something good to watch.
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:43 pm
yeah but you know the Gatorade franchise folks were loving it. The fact that Zambrano put a whoopin’ on that machine… and it kept working lol.
That was a great tantrum but hey it’s Carlos Zambrano what else would you expect?!
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:44 pm
KJ .243
JF .257
You have right there our offensive problems………..one of them has to go.
Only Schafer and GA have lower OPS than them………….HUGE HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT.
GA has added .128 points to his OPS in the last 15 days exactly. So that leaves KJ and JF as the lonely problems on this team (besides Schafer of course, but he is just a kid).
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:44 pm
Man, The More I see D-Ross The More I call him an underrated acquistion….
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:44 pm
Nice seeing a catcher with an arm.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
10:45 pm
Whoever it was. KK needs to earn his paycheck
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:45 pm
Hopefully Zambrano will be suspended when we play them…
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:45 pm
Those numbers I mentioned were BA. The OPS was a comment totally apart.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:45 pm
Tomahawkin I dont think so, because it wouldnt matter. What would it accomplish. Probably nothing and besides he cant call them out too much. The Braves are paying their contract.
Randy Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
I got me another perfect game going against these chumps.
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
BigMacAttack … i beleive that nightmare was already visited by myself and another here. Johnson has already done that to us so lets for all that is good not wish another on us by the same pitcher … please.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
Oh! In Spring Training the other teams got used to Ross liking to throw to the bases? Yeah. As opposed to that other guy who likes to throw to center?
Whoops…not working here…
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
ooooooofus
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
Oh man talk about wierd…Wild Thang…!
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:46 pm
Muts are limping and they keep winning……..got to tip your hat to that.
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
Why can’t KJ go to left field? That is his natural position, right?
wiki
May 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
just a bit outside
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
MP31: “Which ever one of yall told me yesterday that KK was good. BULLSH*T. I told you”
KK this month: 2-2, 2.63 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 24K/8BB and 0 HR allowed in 24 IP. Two ER or fewer in 3 of 4 starts this month–3 ER in the other start.
Is KK gonna win the Cy Young? No, but that’s not too bad for a fourth starter.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
Doc, you’re seriously using batting average? The OPS last I saw was about a 100 point difference. Also one is playing second base and the other right field.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
10:47 pm
That is his natural position, right?
No, it’s shortstop.
SF Lad
May 27th, 2009
10:48 pm
Man..R.Johnson is going to throw a Perfecto against this pathetic @$$ lineup…Wren needs to wake the hell up and make some moves to keep this ship from sinking….its patethic to have Molina as your cleanup hitter(Giants case)….Imagine M.PRADO…Jeez Cox…
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:48 pm
Now the real KK is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:48 pm
Well.. good game.. i guess we lose. They scored a run.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:49 pm
Man…! Oh Man, we are gonna have to play the catchup game against The Big Unit, “Not Good!”
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:49 pm
This team is just pathetic………..they sweep the Jays and look like a college team against SF.
Little ball
May 27th, 2009
10:50 pm
Walk, stolen base, wild pitch, base hit 1-0 Giants.
A-B-C baseball.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
10:50 pm
Yeah Bobbys Belly how dare somebody give up a run…
Randy Johnson
May 27th, 2009
10:50 pm
With opponents hitting about .300 against me and my ERA over 6, I never thought I’d get win 299. Thanks Braves! Thanks Wren!
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
10:50 pm
How ’bout that, Chipper consecutive game streak at 2?
N8
May 27th, 2009
10:51 pm
“N8, no he doesn’t have a Whitesnake T-shirt under it. Because he seems like a pretty cool dude, see. And Whitesnake is not cool.” DOB
Theguyimitatingjohnson'smother
May 27th, 2009
10:52 pm
Eugene, get your butt to bed and quit bothering those people. I let you do that stupid T. Lincecum thing last night but enough is a enough. Go to bed young man.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:52 pm
Has Anyone Noticed That You don’t see as much hitters using the Padding on their elbows as they used to 10 years ago…? I’m not sure but I think they started to regulate that stuff, but don’t quote me on that…
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
10:52 pm
Tomahawkin, You are aware that this is 2009 and not 1999, right? Randy Johnson entered tonight’s game with a 6.26 ERA and 1.57 WHIP in 46 IP. Scoring on Randy Johnson in 2009 ain’t nearly as hard to do as it used to be.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:52 pm
BOO,
What I said is they are ranked near the bottom or at the bottom in BA and OPS on the team. Both of them, KJ and JF.
MVH
May 27th, 2009
10:52 pm
I’m so sick of the Giants constantly getting hot against the Braves…Randy Winn, Travis Ishikawa, Fred Lewis…now Juan Uribe
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
10:53 pm
Steve from OH,
Hope there are no hard feelings.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:53 pm
Can we at least manage a hit this inning?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
Doc Holliday, A college team…lol
Actually watching College Baseball is usually more exciting than this…
Black-eyed peas equals Pop-Tart Garbage BTW, I think that is right up D.O.B.’s Alley, J/K
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
MVH–
Uribe got hot when he got away with hopping in front of McCann…gave him a jump start, if you know what I mean…
RHR
May 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
WTF y’all? It’s the 3rd inning and y’all are seriously talking about RJ throwing a perfect game? Sheesh. Go take an asprin or something.
Driver8
May 27th, 2009
10:55 pm
Hey Doc Holliday as much as i like to see the METS struggle….
What pains me is they got KROD who seems very much like he was with the Angels – Automatic. Why they are struggling makes me laugh much harder because they have the best in the business closing games but still cant play consistently. Go to hell METS!
Beat the Mets .. Beat the Mets .. Step Right Up and Beat the Mets…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
Dipstick I know that…
I said that in a post on this blog before the game that he isn’t what he used to be, but I’m getting flashbacks of May 2004 Now
N8
May 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
“Scoring on Randy Johnson in 2009 ain’t nearly as hard to do as it used to be.”
As we enter the 3rd inning without a hit. Too funny.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
Francoeur: .640 OPS
Johnson: .733 OPS
Like I said, nearly 100 points. It’s pretty unfair to compare someone with Johnson’s track record and playing second base and tied for the team lead in homeruns…to the worst everyday right fielder in the majors as if they’re equal problems.
pryguy
May 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
McFann,
As much as I love McCann, you seem utterly obsessed dude.
scottbravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
Are Atlanta Braves fans the laziest in the league? They don’t show up for playoff games and they don’t vote to get their guys in all star games. I wonder why anyone would ever want to play for an Atlanta based team. I mean the Texas Rangers and Milwaukee Brewers fans are getting their players represented better than the Braves fans. McCann and Chipper should be higher than they are in the NL all star voting and McCann being 5th is an absolute joke.
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
KK this month: 2-2, 2.63 ERA, 1.21 WHIP, 24K/8BB and 0 HR allowed in 24 IP. Two ER or fewer in 3 of 4 starts this month–3 ER in the other start.
Man, Dipstick, don’t try and throw facts and stats at some of the KK haters. He doesn’t throw 100 mph and has that big ol’ curveball- and he has that funny name, to boot!
Of course, these guys would have likely thrown Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine under the bus after their first seasons, too. Yeah, I know KK’s 33 yrs old, but seems to me like he’s done just fine after a rough first month.
Efrim
May 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
“GA has added .128 points to his OPS in the last 15 days exactly. So that leaves KJ and JF as the lonely problems on this team (besides Schafer of course, but he is just a kid).”
Garrett Anderson’s month of May: .281/.313/.315 in 73 plate appearances
Jeff Francoeur’s month of May: .242/.258/.308 in 97 plate appearances
Kelly Johnson’s month of May: .282/.329/.451 in 76 plate appearances
Doc Holiday, seems to me that Johnson has been pulling his weight a bit more in the month of May. GA and Francoeur are still stinking up the joint. Oh wait, I forgot one more player’s month of May.
Martin Prado’s month of May: .209/.277/.419 in 48 plate appearances
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
Good job Schafer. You’ll never have to suffer through another stikeout if you turn into Frenchy and jump on the first pitch.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
10:58 pm
Man Offense blows!!!!!!!
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
10:58 pm
pryguy
Our beloved McFann is not a “dude”…
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
10:59 pm
I wanna KILL Boog! ANNOYING AS FU**!
Asleep at the Wheel
May 27th, 2009
10:59 pm
Buster Olney heard that “Atlanta hasn’t gotten fully engaged yet” in their attempt to augment their outfield.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
10:59 pm
They are goin to be part of history. I perfect game. They are going to be on sportcenter all day. making fun of the braves o. hopefully it encourages wren to fully engage in trade talks. anyone else agree?
Boo
May 27th, 2009
10:59 pm
Aww geez, not another perfect game.
Choppinmama
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
Somebody please explain to me how the pitchers can lick their hands, wipe their brows, rub snot all the way up their forearm……then rub up the ball real good…….and that’s not illegal? Just because they’re not doing it while on the rubber?
Isn’t that loading up the ball?
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
Scottsbraves which starter up until a few weeks ago deserved to go? Now McCann but after the 1st month he didnt deserve to go. Chippers missed too many games. I wouldnt vote Escobar over other ss. I vote but until this past week I had yet to vote for a Brave. I cant vote for pitchers.
Randy Johnson
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
I’m still perfect after three.
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
N8, It’s a 9 inning game. They don’t celebrate guys having a no-hitter thru 3. LOL.
TennesseePaul
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
This is not happening.
This is not happening. man.
Not happening.
No way we get perfect gamed by this guy twice.
I met this guy at Dodger Stadium on opening day. He was the first person I ever met that physically fit the description “Larger Than Life”.
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
Make that “through three full innings” and still no hits.
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
11:01 pm
Don’t use KILL so lightly !!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:01 pm
Trying to think of when the last time I saw Randy Johnson perfect through three innings against the Braves. Let’s see … oh, yeah.
Anyway, here’s part of scoutbox I did for today’s game, if you didn’t see it:
Randy Johnson is 5-5 in 12 starts against the Braves, including 2-0 with a 0.41 ERA (and a perfect game) in his past three. But since winning his last start against them on May 24, 2008, he’s 10-13 with a 4.47 ERA in 31 starts. Chipper Jones is 13-for-33 with six home runs against Johnson.
pryguy
May 27th, 2009
11:01 pm
Wayne,
my bad ..still a little much but more understandable I assume
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:02 pm
Boog Please Tell me why you had to sing that crappy song, I’m gonna have it in my head now…Arrrgghhh!
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
11:02 pm
KK no good.
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:02 pm
“N8, It’s a 9 inning game. They don’t celebrate guys having a no-hitter thru 3. LOL.”
What about 2 runs, and 11 hits in the past 21 innings? Do they award anything or celebrate that? LOL!
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Efrim,
GA has been doing better last 15 days……….thats all I was saying…………
JF and KJ have sokd all season long and braves will continue to stick with them………….Id say enough is enough……….time to give others a chance……………
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
DOB, I’m glad you, Boog, and Joe S. are happy campers out in beautiful SF, but we Braves fans are absolutely miserable watching this team struggle so bad.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Oh he had him if he held onto it.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Given this late starting time and the fact we probably won’t make many papers with this game story, I was wondering….
If a 45-year-old giraffe throws a perfect game in a forest, but nobody is there to see it, is it still a perfect game?
Rob from SC
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Kawakami blows on 4 days rest. We need Hanson now!
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Just because they’re not doing it while on the rubber?
Choppinmama-
Yes- they are allowed to do that as long as they are not on the rubber. Occasionally exceptions will be made to allow the pitchers to blow on their hands if it is very cold, but otherwise they have to stay off the mound
Rob from SC
May 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
How many wild pitches / pass balls this series
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
Different signs in Japanese…………………………………
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
It’s weird how many times lately I’ve penciled in my scorebook, runner steals steals second and/or advances to third on wild pitch (or passed ball).
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
pryguy–
Obsessed? Me? You gotta be kidding…
Hey, ya know, he could have more CS in his defensive stats if umpires would call Beltran out…if Escobar would catch the ball…and Uribe did hop in front of him…
And he’d have 20 RBI if they wouldn’t have called an error on Utley and if that “ground-rule” double in NY would have been called a real double.
Um…but yeah, I’m not obsessed.
(Thanks, Wayne.
)
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:05 pm
I love how Joe, Boog and sportsouth act like every single Brave has a verizon phone they listen to music on.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:05 pm
Kawakami throws 2 hit shutout baseball for 8 innings. Next start he blows and we need Hanson. Give me a break…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:05 pm
Kamakaze Isn’t looking too good, We need The AWFense to step up Bad!!!
Choppinmama
May 27th, 2009
11:05 pm
I was at that no-hitter that Johnson pitched against us. I was getting SO frustrated that nobody was getting to a single pitch. I always listen to a radio while at the game (makes it 200% more interesting), so knew what was going on. I didn’t exactly root against us, but was getting excited for Johnson about the 8th. Poor Eddie was the last Brave to go down in flames.
Johnson got a really nice ovation from all us fans. A nice piece of baseball history to see in person.
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
DOB, that depends. If Whitesnake sang the National Anthem, then no. Due to the “uncoolness” of the situation, it never happened.
Edward
May 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
I hope we do get no-hit. If we don’t see changes to the roster after a no-hitter then we never will
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
TnBrian: OK, I’m miserable now and miss the warm weather back home. (There, hope that helps.)
Boo
May 27th, 2009
11:07 pm
Doc, maybe time to just admit you’re a bit irrational when it comes to Kelly Johnson?
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:07 pm
“What about 2 runs, and 11 hits in the past 21 innings? Do they award anything or celebrate that? LOL!”
What do past games have to do with tonight’s game? They award wins prior to the game based on past performances? LOL
brewdawg
May 27th, 2009
11:07 pm
Smoltz already above 90 mph in his second rehab start. Man is a freak of nature. Really Braves, you couldn’t come up with 5 million?? I guess you had to save some money for the huge Garret Anderson splash signing.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
Don’t you get it? It doesn’t matter how good or bad Kawakami does.. or how good or bad Johnson does. Our horrible offense of late will waste any kind of start by our pitchers and make the opposing pitcher look great.
The Lammer
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
This team doesn’t deserve to play to play Major League Baseball….God we look like a college team out there…PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
KK Blows too.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
You still talking about Whitesnake? My man, broaden the horizons. Lot of great music recorded in the past decade or two.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
DOB-
hey, at least it’ll be warm in Phoenix
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
“If a 45-year-old giraffe throws a perfect game in a forest, but nobody is there to see it, is it still a perfect game?”
Only if the Hoss doesn’t get a say in it.
Nyuck nyuck.
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
well you hate to give randy johnson anything more than a one run lead. i think the jays series was a bit of a fluke. they are playing terrible baseball and now we are playing an average team on the west coast, which usually equals losses for us…..and thats whats happening. this team needs help. and although trades usually arent made until late july, we could find ourselves back 10-15 games by then…. we just need to find some offensive consistency. we havent had that in years but thats what we need.
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
11:09 pm
oh and whitesnake sucks.
MC Dammer
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
The Braves can only give their fans hope for so long before sending them crashing back to reality.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
Dave
A couple of weeks back I was in ATT Park watching the Mets and Giants while on a bidnezz trip.
I found some nachos w/ pork and a three cheese topping that was terrible for me, but I loved it!
richbrave
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
Wild pitch, passed ball, strike-outs, first ball outs, gift runs, hitters other than KAWAKAMI averaging four pitches per batter, BS. I’m not gonna’ stay up and listen to that crap. Night all.
Bobby's Belly
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
not good
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
wow. that was mcannesque there.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
oh, man, was that ugly.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
OMG!!! Thats It This Team SUCKS!!!
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
OH MY GOD
*hangs his head in shame*
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
Did someone put a hex on our catchers? what is going on here??
abwright
May 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
THAT…was crap-tastic.
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
Dipstick, I know you’re messin’ around, but my point before was that it doesn’t matter if it’s Randy Johnson circa 1995 or the 2009 version. Hell, if Chad Johnson, Larry Johnson, or Jack Johnson were on the mound for the Giants, the Braves offense is so weak, it just doesn’t matter.
So, to help the “story” along, I referenced the past 2 games + the first three innings tonight, to show the trend. But unless this is your first game of the season to being attention to, I’ll assume you didn’t need me to tell you that.
And now, were giving runs away, because we can’t execute a simple Hot Box Drill? Wow.
Boo
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
Pathetic.
CorkylikesBeer
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
wow…sweep!…I can go to bed now…goodnight….
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
bravesphanatic
I think ALL snakes suck!
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
I knew it was just a matter of time before someone did that to us.
Choppinmama
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
cabravesfan: just because they’re not on the rubber doesn’t stop them from loading up the baseball does it? Load it up off the rubber, step on and throw the spitball, no?
Who inspects it? I can just see Pat Corrales calling time and asking the ump to check the wetness level of the ball before the next pitch. Good ol’ Pat.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
Does that count as an error?
scottbravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
Eric in MO,
Chipper’s numbers have been good all year. He’s not going to hit a ton of home runs anymore because he just doesn’t see the pitches and who can blame pitchers for pitching around him with Martin Prado’s and Garrett Anderson’s of the world hitting behind him. But his on base has been around .440 all year long and has gotten a ton of hits.
How the hell does David Ross fall down right there? And why is McCann not in the lineup? The guy was just on the DL for two weeks and it’s like 60 degrees in San Fran at night. Bobby Cox is senile.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
What did I tell you. KK sucks. Yall are over rating him big time
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
Watching this Braves team is like taking a benadryl. After a few minutes, I start getting sleepier and sleepier…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
They are Running at will on us! Bobby C. has got Outmanaged in every aspect of the game this series by Bruce Bochy, Un-Fckin-Real
MiamiBrave
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
doth my gameday read correctly? steal of home?
or throw to second and taking home?
Zephyr 8
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
Has to be an error of some sort.
He stole home
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
My, my , my ain’t that a b1tch!
Choppinmama
May 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
David, David, David. You had him dead at the plate.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
Definetly going to make fun of the braves tomorrow on espn now. Stealing home? wtf
Edward
May 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
Hey, how many other guys here thought this precise Offense droughts would come waaay back in the offseason?? i said it right after they let bobby abreu go for 5 MM…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
RHR, lol…Wow You Must Have ESP-N or something?
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
Kawakami doesnt suck people. It isnt his fault that second run scored.
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
Gameday writes “Aaron Rowand steals home, Bengie Molina steals third.”
Not gonna lie. Those are words I thought I’d never read.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
Choppinmama-
Nope. Doesn’t stop them but it’s not illegal
And I believe anyone can actually ask for a ball to be inspected but i would imagine it would be hard to tell if something was done (spit, sweat, etc) on purpose
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
lol
i think that there assures the perfect game. Whatever, BRING IT ON!!
abwright
May 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
I hope that run was unearned. I wonder if the Giants drew that one up the way it played out.
Screw up the hit and run and hang your runner up at second. Send the runner from third, who goes half and and then returns to the base. When the return throw from second base to the plate is dropped by the catcher, runner heads back to home.
If the catcher slips, the runner can score, no problem. Otherwise, easy come, easy go.
Louisville brave
May 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
Doesn’t take a lot to out-manage Cox
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
This team is pathetic. throwing all braves stuff away now. Im embarrased
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
MP31
Yea The Melts and Phillies Fans are gonna get into our A..ses once they see that…
Well It is what it is…
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
But Scott he misses every couple of games. To me all-stars actually play.
Chucktown Brave
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
Randy’s second Perfect game will be tonight
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
There We Go Joe!!!
Call these SumBytches Out!!!
bravesphanatic004
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
boog that some heady stuff there bra.
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
Speed disrupts and puts pressure on the defense and we see what pressure does to some players and teams. Unfortunately for us, our opponents have no problem putting pressure on our defense and have gotten some good results.
Chucktown Brave
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
nevermind
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
What?! What?!? What did our catcher screw up now?
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
Did KK and Ross go hang out with the hippies at Unv. Cal Berkeley. Hope it was some good $hit they got. Looks like Doc Ellis and the crew pitching. WTF
.500 is fun
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Hey, the boys are only 2.5 back.
Kyle
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Chill with the heat guys…we got Diory with the double leading off
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
If we don’t score this run I’m going to bed and quitting watching the Braves after 11 PM on week days for the rest of the season.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Thank you God. Now, let’s score some runs.
Joebrave
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Booby Kooks is a dumba@ss sumb1tch!!!
Darryl W
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen…
Your 2009 Atlanta Braves
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Wow.
abwright
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
There goes the no-hitter!
Lead off double for Hernandez, just inside the third base bag.
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
DOB, not really, but thanks for trying.
The curse Baroid haunts the Braves for signing Maddux instead of him. Maybe that was a possible trade for Baroid, but I think he’s haunting the Bravos anyways.
HEY, we gotta a hit…GO DIORY! OMG, that was pathetic!
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
MP31
Don’t let the screen door hit you in the butt on the way out….
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
randy already has a perfect game against the braves when he was with d backs. Recorded last out on a strike out to eddie perez. anyone else remember that
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Now Gameday says Randy Johnson just threw a pitchout to Diory with 2 strikes and none on. Something smells fishy in the bay…
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
oh come on!!
this games fun level just took a stock market nose dive.
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Oh. I get it. It’s not funny anymore. Sorry. I guess I’ll take my t-shirt off and all my posters down. Dang, and I just was accepted as a “friend” by both David Coverdale, and Tawny Kitaan on facebook.
I guess I should get with the 90’s….er…00’s, huh?
Do you really think that I still listen to them on a regular basis? Wow. I thought you caught the sarcasm. Thought you were quicker than that. Sorry. I’ll dumb the jokes down a bit.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Kotchmeister, COME ON!!!
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
All ready talking about that play on MLB tonight !!!
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
That long inning might stiffen up the old unit…..maybe
MiamiBrave
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
can someone just describe what happened?
gameday only shows double steal?
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
I was watching Gwinnett last night and Brian Jordan kept talking about the 1997 World Series, Braves vs. Marlins. I wonder if anyone told him 2 NL teams don’t play in the World Series.
Randy Johnson
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Dammit, I’m gonna rip somebody’s head off now.
MP31
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
You can come kiss my ass wayne
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Boo,
If Im being irrational about KJ, how come 3 players have played 2b this season and KJ was mentioned as a possible trade during winter. You need to stop being like Cox. The guy is no good at the plate, Period. Nothing but average 2b, and I would think twice about that.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:18 pm
MP31 what??? When was that???
woogidy
May 27th, 2009
11:18 pm
I’m going to steal a lyric from Eminem’s new album that reminds me of the Braves the last few years, and how they’ve changed personnel and the results are eerily similar. It’s a chore to watch this team right now.
Show me what you got, give it your all, look at you ball, why you crying to me? Same song and dance.
Micki
May 27th, 2009
11:18 pm
This team is like watching your grand mother get beat up and not being able to help. …For the love of God we’ve been outscored 14-2 against the “worst offense” in baseball…
Chucktown Brave
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
kotch moves runner over to 3rd… 4-3 groundout
Louisville brave
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
What are you firing shots at the ball dude for?
abwright
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
Kotch moves Diory over to third on a 1-2 dribbler to the right side.
Chipper up to the plate. Get that runner in!
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
Mike Mussina.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
Economy is real bad, Giants got grown men as ball boys. LOL
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
“That long inning might stiffen up the old unit…..maybe”
The Braves need that old unit stiffened up right about now. If they could make that happen, maybe they’d actually hit something.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
WOW, what happened to the Nuggets in the 4th quarter. Kobe is great, but my favorite teams are the Jazz and whoever is playing the Lakers.
Captain Obvious
May 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
You can’t expect to win games if you can’t score runs…
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
WTF are you looking at, Larry? WTF I must be mad if I call him Larry because I lurve him most of all.
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
Nope, it’s Byleven. And I should change my handle to “Boog cheats with facebook at trivia”.
Chucktown Brave
May 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
chip with a K
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Uh oh…Chipper hurt himself on that swing? No, you’re kidding???
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
N8, My point was that 45-year-old Randy Johnson has been awful this year and that hitting him ain’t as hard as it used to be. I cited stats to support that and make my point.
You somehow made the leap that by merely pointing out how bad Randy Johnson has been this year I was saying that the Braves offense would do the same to him that others this season have. I wasn’t saying that or even implying, hinting or suggesting it. Hell, I didn’t even mention the Braves offense at all. I was just pointing out that nobody else has had any trouble with him and that he’s not the ace he once was. Don’t see how you had such a hard time seeing my point. I’ll assume you were just messing w/me and didn’t need me to break it down for you like I just did. If not, try actually reading the post and comprehending it as opposed to trying to put words in people’s mouths.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
I had a feeling that Chandelier Chipper would hurt himself more!
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Oh man.. is Chipper limping again? great.. just great
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Dang it, I thought you said you were done with the Braves. I was just taking you at your word, now we know your word doesn’t mean anything!
PWHjort
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
See ya tomorrow folks. Off to bed.
Chucktown Brave
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
chip is now headed to the DL… prado with a lazy pop to the 1b to end the inning… going to bed
Boo
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
FAIL
Tennbravefan
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
pathetic
abwright
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Chipper srtikes out swinging and limps out of the batters box. Toe jam.
Prado pops up on the first pitch.
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Can’t use the “pitched around” excuse for Chipper this time. He just didn’t put the ball in play.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
This AWFENSE SUCKS! Frank Wren Do Something NOW!!!
Our Cleanup Hitter pop’s up a 25 Footer What a Fcking Joke!!!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Okay I’m a Chipper supported, but he complains about not getting opportunities and not being pitched to, but when he is he doesn’t come through.
scottbravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Oh great Chipper is hurt again. Awesome
woogidy
May 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Youtube tomorrow, a video of this team could be added to the fail blog. Baseball team fail.
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:23 pm
Why the hell is his nickname KK and not BB?
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:23 pm
Chipper better hope one of those damn birds don’t fly into him. It just might hurt him or something…
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
Runner on third w/ one out, and we can’t find a way to get him home.
And THEY STOLE HOME?!?! How did THAT happen?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
Damn RHR
You are even gettin P’d At this AWFense…
And Your one of the more mellow posters on here…
That’s saying something
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
Nice play, rook.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
I thought Diory Hernandez was supposed to be a crappy defensive player? He looks more then servicable so far
Ray K.
May 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
As hapless as the Braves offense has been, let’s keep this in mind, guys: the Cubs scored 5 runs in 5 games last week. Fontenot, Lee, Soto, and Bradley are batting .223, .242, .216, and .200 respectively.
Dempster, Zombrano, and Harden all have ERA’s above 4.00. Can you imagine how much vitriol would circulate this blog if those were our stats?
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
Wayne, don’t let that screen door hit you in the head!
Chipper Jones
May 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
Oh the pain.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
Is there any chance we can forego the simulated “f-bombs” on the ole blog??
scottbravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Eric in MO
I take it back no one on this team deserves to be on the all star team that plays offense. McCann does but like you said he’s been out for awhile. Lowe and Jurrjens deserve to be on the all star team and it would be a crime if they don’t make it. Especially Jurrjens who has had no run support.
Leading by Example
May 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Runner on third with one out. Chipper K’s against The big unit. Atlanta fails to execute and score.
Not A-B-C baseball.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Tokyo Brave And THEY STOLE HOME?!?! How did THAT happen?
Hmm…gee…I don’t know…guess Ross is human, too.
#3
May 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Someone please tell me how TP still has a job.
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
Another BB!
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
Here Comes Kamakaze’s Inning to Blow Up…Come on, Get Tough!
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
SoWeGa
I’m sorry, did I push one of your buttons? I don’t think I was talking to you, but……whatever.
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
Giants have a swept a 2 game series this year, but not a 3. I suspect that’s the Braves goal, to help them out a bit.
DirtyYuni
May 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
And that’s the result of Martin Prado hitting cleanup.
I’m embarrassed to have a guy hitting .246 with 2 homers and 7 RBIs “protecting” Chipper. That’d be like having Dan Kolb or Bob Wickman as your closer.
Wait…
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
Aight D-Ross, Time To kill the pick-off attempts
Boo
May 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
This game should be tied 1-1: if Ross catches the ball (or Prado makes a better throw) and Chipper makes decent contact.
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
Very disappointed in Kawakami. Thought he was on track, but thought wrong. I think this is going to be a team of extreme highs and lows until they start doing those little things consistantly. I hate saying this, but the Mets are a better team right now. Oh, and the Phillies are two steps better right now.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
yes, USC had Randy Johnson & Mark McGuire in the same starting rotation…needless to say, the team was really good
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
Good our defense didn’t F that play up…
Poorjeff
May 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
Great to have someone that can bunt.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
TnBrian
Had The Awfense spotted Kamakaze 1 or 2 runs early the game would going at a different pace right now
I’m not usuing that as an excuse but the AWFense Blows!!!
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
The Braves “road game” marketing crew, or the marketing teams of their opponants, should use this slogan when promoting (ahem) contests, against the Braves:
“The Atlanta Braves…. making mediocre teams look World Series bound since August of 2005. Come check em’ out!”
#3
May 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
It’s sad when a two run deficit is insurmountable…
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
LOL @ Bobby.
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
I guess if you don’t want to take the time to walk the guy… just hit him.
AdirondackDave
May 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
Unfortunately, the team needs to be significantly upgraded offensively at 4 positions. Anybody think FW can pull this off, or even agree that it needs to be done?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
Another Hitbatsmen….!
I smell a big inning now! Thats what usually happens when the opponent has a big inning!
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
The announcers need a “and he hits the batter to load the bases” button to hit for this season so far.
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
Not another bases loaded walk! Please no!!!!
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
Tomahawkin, true, but the walks he giving is really what I’m talking about. No sense on walking the Giants hitters…none.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
What was all that?
Boo
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
They turned a double play with two outs…
uga-brave
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
watching KK pitch i like giving a monkey a hand grenade.
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
Dodged a bullet there. Time to get some runs.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
If you didn’t know better, you’d think the Braves were 20 games out by reading the blog.
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
Phillies pitching is still a MAJOR issue for them though. There is no doubt that they have the top offense in the division, but they’ve still got some issues on that pitching staff. After 2-3 encouraging outings, Brett Myers had another rough one tonight before leaving w/hip inflammation. Brad Lidge has been extremely shaky. Jamie Moyer has been awful and possibly giving us a preview of what we’re in store for with Glavine next month. Blanton has struggled aside from last night’s start.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
We will take That
Fcking AWFense, Come On!!!!!
N8
May 27th, 2009
11:33 pm
“Had The Awfense spotted Kamakaze 1 or 2 runs early the game…” Tomahawkin
I’m not sure this offense would recognize a run if the spotted it. Ba-Dump-Bump!
Thanks, I’ll be here all season (like it or not).
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:34 pm
Enter your comments here
Poorjeff
May 27th, 2009
11:34 pm
Didn’t even know how many were out? Great sh@# Bobby.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:34 pm
RHR
What did he do I missed it.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
11:35 pm
That is the first time I have ever seen an infielder go for 4 outs WTF is going on with this team. Dear God
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:35 pm
Good news Braves Fans.. we get to see Frenchy bat.. whooo.. Even better news: we don’t have to see Schafer til the next inning.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:35 pm
Prado may have thought he missed 2nd…or he forgot how many outs there were…sheesh it’s not like Chipper has never forgot that before.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:35 pm
Scott its ok. Thanks for seeing it my way.lol
Daybed Wagmoe
May 27th, 2009
11:35 pm
Can that 4th out carry over to the next inning? Please?
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:36 pm
Okay Joe Mauer is hitting good, but how did he get so many votes all of a sudden?
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:36 pm
bravos – I was referring to the double play they turned with 2 outs.
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:36 pm
Wow. Nice play!
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:36 pm
TNBrian
Good Point!
No sense walking The Giants Hitters especially since we all know how bad they are other than when they play the braves.
Plus we are playing in a relatively pitchers park…
Damn These Turds are making WEB-Gems on us now…Gawd we are getting Clowned!
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
Adirondack
I think that if we added one decent bat, that we would see some real improvement. The games missed so far with nagging injuries and Mac’s eye issues have be problematic.
I really think a clean up hitter makes all the other players better in their true spots.
Question for Braves Offense
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
Where’s the non-suck?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
God Frenchy SUCKS!
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
But if you blink, braves fans, you’ll miss Frenchy batting.
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
Perhaps those predicting doom by the pitch and by the inning have learned a little something?
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
I wish the Braves would play with a little more pride, here.
Seems like if the Braves win a few games and get 3 or 4 games over .500, they lose 3 or 4 and get at or below .500.
This is frustrating beyond comprehension.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:37 pm
Lets see…………most HR from KJ in a season……..16
How many times Ryan Sandberg hit less than that from 1984 to 1992………..just once.
How many 2b hit at least the same amount of HR he hit last season? 7…………thats half the leagues 2b, not to mention Belliard (Nats) and Barnes(Col) hit 11 HR and had at least 150 less AB than he did. That makes it 9 2b with more at least the same amount of HR he hit in his best season.
He is tied for 5th in HR this season, but we all know he will hit 15 at best……….and he might not finish the season in Atl.
So if KJ is not the power guy you like to think Boo, and he is not a guy that hits for AVG and he is not a great guy with the glove and he is not a base stealer………… what is he? just a mediocre 2b.
Thats all he is……….some power, but not near the power of the elite 2b in the majors……….no base stealing treath———–no high average and horrible mistakes with the glove………….what do we have?
Poorjeff
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
Golden boy grounds out!
#3
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
17 straight innings…
Jeff Francoeur
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
GOD BOOG SHUT UP ABOUT OBP! ITS NOT EVEN ON THE SCOREBOARD YOU FAT LOSER.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
LOL..Joe, Frenchy being next to last among qualifying obp% for outfielders ….68th out of 69th…THAT IS BELIEVABLE.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
That had to be the quickest inning in some time WTF!
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
That was pretty ugly.
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
“Okay Joe Mauer is hitting good, but how did he get so many votes all of a sudden?”
What else is there to do in MN besides sitting around casting votes?
Rob in Mobile
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
a643dp, this is “twilight zone” kind of stuff going on. Jim Powell just remarked this is the “worst four innings the Braves have played this season, and yet they’re only down 2-0.”
Powell just commented with a hint of disgust about Francoeur swinging at the first pitch, too, by the way.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
Frenchy isn’t an exception on this team. He’s the blasted poster boy for our inept lineup.
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
Man, we are making Randy Johnson look like the Randy of five or six years ago.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
Wow I took a sip of my drink and before I put it back on the table that half of the inning was over.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
I went to pee. Came back and the Braves were already done batting…
Turtsnap
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
Oh well….. I’ve spent an hour and a half in mediocrity… time for bed!!
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
Lakers are getting all the calls in the late 4th quarter. Too bad…
Dumbfound
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
69th out of 70 outfielders !
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
11:39 pm
I’m guessing the Braves are making outs this quickly so they can get out town early?
DOB – better score that next batch of bleu cheese fries quick, or the game might be over!
And those fries – I don’t remember anything at the Ted sounding so tasty. How do you you rate the fare there compared to other ML stops?
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
RHR
Well I remember earlier they said something about Bobby not liking it either and I had missed it. I know he hit Rowand but I thought Bobby may have done something.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
Only one earned run against Kawakami — other was unearned because of the passed ball.
Rob in Mobile
May 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
Jim Powell just remarked, “Not sure Randy Johnson has worked up a sweat yet.”
Not when the Braves are doing everything they can to help him win number 299……
Wise Man
May 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
We just got SWEPT by the team that scores the least amount of runs in the NL. Next up… 4 straight losses to the diamondbacks.
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:40 pm
Braves should just set up camp around .500, when they’re over .500 it gives false hope. Their home this year is around .500, they need to stay home.
The Truth
May 27th, 2009
11:41 pm
Randy Johnson had an ERA over 6.00 before this game started. If Frank Wren has too much patience, then his 96 million dollar team is not going to break 80 wins this year. As good as this team is at preventing runs, the trio of Lowe/Jurrjens/Vasquez won’t be this good all year long. So that means you need to score more runs. Also, the 4th and 5th spots in this rotation suck.
Ray K.
May 27th, 2009
11:41 pm
We have one hit in 6 innings against a 45 year old has been with an ERA of 6.26. Only the Braves. Pathetic.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:41 pm
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:38 pm
LOL..Joe, Frenchy being next to last among qualifying obp% for outfielders ….68th out of 69th…THAT IS BELIEVABLE.
Well he was last year I think. Seems like he is starting to come around.
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:41 pm
So let me get this straight…Francoeur is number 68 out 69 as far as MLB OF’s making outs and Bobby Cox continues to play this guy EVERY single game? I’m lost, and Joe S. is trying his darndest to make Frenchy not look so bad to the world, but the numbers don’t lie. Of course, he knows Jeff is young and doesn’t want to bash him like 98% of others do. But man, that’s just sad.
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:41 pm
Turtsnap
I’ve been suffering through mediocrity with these Braves for the past 3 years!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:42 pm
lol I go the the official page and half the stories are about minor leagues. Not much going on up here I can tell.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:42 pm
kirk
I don’t think they are listening or learning… (your 11:37 post)
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:42 pm
Plain and Simple this is a display of Uninspired baseball tonight…
I know this game isn’t over but they seem like they are just trying to get to the off day. I don’t boo when I go to games but I Would if I was at the game tonight. It’s one thing to get shut down by great pitching but it’s another to don’t care about getting Punk’d by the Jubroni teams of the league
It seems like we love to lay down against the Garbage teams of the league
Wonder Why people rather go to see the Gwinnett Braves more!!!!
ARRRRGHHH!!!
Nicky Sanders
May 27th, 2009
11:42 pm
Tomahawkin, please shut up! My gawd you’re an insufferable biatch! Why do some of you idiots feel the need to editorialize by the minute?
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:43 pm
Amazing that the Atlanta Hawks drafted all those big white dudes (Adam Keefe, Cal Bowdler, etc.) in the 90s and early ’00s and they all sucked. The one exception was Pau Gasol and of course he’s the one they traded immediately after drafting him.
The Truth
May 27th, 2009
11:43 pm
To spend 96 million on a team, and not break .500, well that means someone should lose their job. Cox is going no where. Looks like Wren is gone then.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 27th, 2009
11:43 pm
“SoWeGa
I’m sorry, did I push one of your buttons? I don’t think I was talking to you, but……whatever.”
NO, NO, Wayne. You told friend to not let the screen door hit him as he exited, he responded to kiss his a–, and I said don’t let the screen door hit your head . . . assuming you did as he asked and the screen door . . . aw, never mind, but it wasn’t meant as a slight.
oldschool
May 27th, 2009
11:43 pm
Folks,I love this team as much as anybody,but we don’t have it this year and that’s that.We could bring up hanson and trade for two or three bats and this team won’t make the playoffs.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:43 pm
Meant to say he was last, last year.
TnBrian
May 27th, 2009
11:44 pm
I’m sorry, Frenchy’s OBP%. You’re right “bravos2249″. That’s still bad.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:44 pm
ummm, what was martin doing there?
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:44 pm
Skip the fries, and go for the nachos!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:44 pm
What the…
All he had to do was go tag him, not throw to first.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:44 pm
KJ is 10th in the majors in HR among 2b.
23……..count them…………23 guys that play 2b have more SB than him.
18………….count them……18 2b have a better batting avg than him in the majors.
20 second baseman have more RBI than him
11 second baseman have a better F% than him
The guy is not intimidating anybody………..he is nothing but average, stop thinking he is in Utleys or uglas league………..he is not……..At least lemke was clutch and a great fielder and at least giles was clutch and played hard.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Slowest man in baseball. Easy play for Francoeur.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Bengie Molina might be the slowest human alive
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
About Fcking Time We Made a Play On Defense!!!
The Truth
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Prado sucks!!!!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Wow. Joe how the crap can you credit Jeff? He barely threw out the catcher at home, that’s NOT impressive.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Helluva throw by Francoeur. Could be a big run if the Braves can wake the bats
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Finally get the first good play at the plate i’ve seen in who knows how long.
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Nice throw Frenchy!
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
What’s Benji go? About 300?
Sheesh!
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:45 pm
Wow. BMac actually tagged someone out even though he was still almost too far out in front of the plate.
pryguy
May 27th, 2009
11:46 pm
Is bad hitting as contagious as hot hitting? Frenchy is bringing them all down, even Chipper!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:46 pm
Before tonight, Kawakami was 2-3 with a 3.60 ERA in five home starts, and 1-2 with a 6.89 ERA in three road starts.
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
11:46 pm
Maybe this’ll wake the lumber.
#3
May 27th, 2009
11:46 pm
DOB, I think that is wishful thinking. But I like it!
oh SNAP!
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
AndyC
Dude honestly Mac ain’t playing. Do you know who IS playing?
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
Andy C, That was David Ross at catcher, not BMac.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
Oh bravos, you were referring to what I said about Bobby. Heh. There’s too many moments to chose from tonight I guess. Anyway, when Kawakami hit the batter to load the bases the camera cut to Bobby and he just did this thing with his hat, hard to explain but you could definitely see the frustration.
I’ve never seen that commercial they just showed with the old woman saying Gonzo was
“nice looking”. LOL cute.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
SoWeGa
Sorry, I misunderstood your comment! And, yes I passed on the kiss offer.
Ray K.
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
Prado!!!! Are you smoking something in the dugout? What the hell is he doing?
Rob in Mobile
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
Well, Frenchy redeemed Prado’s, ummm, bizarre sense of fielding fundamentals.
NYCBrave
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
Beauty of a play by Frenchy
AndyC
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
You guys think Molina is slower than Kotch? I don’t know.
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
well, Frenchy’s arm is still good…
he nailed the “gallapagos turtle.”
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:47 pm
WOW Schafer got a hit!
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
AndyC: Check your lineup.
Bill
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
KJ is 10th in the majors in HR among 2b.
You know that is pretty good considering all the times he was benched for Infante against the lefties he has three homeruns in 40 at-bats against this year.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
How is that a hell of a play by Francoeur? Come on, folks. Molina is a flat-out mother****ing sloth.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
But, it does look like he left, which is one less whiner to have to bear.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
Way to go, K’fer! Big ups to the haters on the blog.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
Byt-chie Sanders…
If you don’t like the posts, then Don’t read them…
We express our thoughts on the pathetic play of the braves for the last three years, And If you and Down with that, then We’ve got 2 words for ya!
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
Nice swing Schafer! Good bunt KK.. Let’s get him in. Cut the lead in half.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
RHR
I’ve seen that commercial yes it is cute.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
If Schafer keeps doing the whole 1 for 4 thing he might have half respectable stats in a month or two.
Chop Chop
May 27th, 2009
11:48 pm
If Francoeur doesn’t make that play, he’s shot in the clubhouse.
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
If Winn got hurt getting called out on strikes, please don’t tell Chipper that it’s possible.
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
Only one earned run against Kawakami — other was unearned because of the passed ball.
Oh, DOB don’t make excuses for him, we all know he’s a disappointment.
Next you’ll be trying to get us to believe he’s had 6 out of his 8 starts have been Quality Starts!
Oh, oh, wait….
Rob in Mobile
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
Good swing by Schafer. But let’s see if KK can bunt……yep, nice job.
JD
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
Wow. Joe how the crap can you credit Jeff? He barely threw out the catcher at home, that’s NOT impressive.
You’re right. An outfield assist to end the inning and keep it a close game? A real announcer would’ve just yawned it off…probably wouldn’t even mention it.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
And Kawakami ain’t a speck over 5′7″. Did you see him in the dugout standing next to the others just now? Well actually, all you could see was the top of his helmet.
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
RHR-
that line about Gonzo cracked me up
Mr. Haney
May 27th, 2009
11:49 pm
No mention from Homer Simpson that Molina was actually safe at the plate but the minute he sees something that doesn’t go the Braves way he screams bloody murder. What a loser.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:50 pm
Honestly if the put Escobar on the DL who are they gonna call up?
I heard Brook Conrad isn’t on the 40 man roster and he’s playing shortstop every day in Gwinnett. Someone from Double A to play infield? Or an outfielder?
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:50 pm
Wait are they playing? MLBTV says they are still on commercial break.
Trey06
May 27th, 2009
11:50 pm
Unlucky
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:51 pm
good grief…what does it take to get a break here?????
#3
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
A run!!!!!
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
Look at K’fer go!!!
Mixxo
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
Alright!
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
Is anyone else having problem now with MLBTV?
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
Kotchmeister Comes Through!!! Yeah!
bravesgirlnc
May 27th, 2009
11:52 pm
yes!
Poorjeff
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
a hit.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
Is it just my bias against the Lakers, but does it seem like they get a lot of favorable calls that their competition doesn’t get??? I could be wrong, heaven knows I have been wrong enough this week!
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
Eric From Mo…MLBTV Is getting one over on you
Nicky Sanders
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
No, not “great we got out of it”, no a real Braves fans says:
Slowest man in baseball. Easy play for Francoeur.
Horrible people!
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
and “The Kotch” comes through and (in theory anyways) the braves are tied!
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
JD
Obviously you don’t see my point. He threw a one hopper to Ross, and BARELY got out MOLINA. who was on SECOND. That’s an assist BUT it’s not the most impressive one he’s had. And the gushed about it like it ended the game. Good play, but that’s a play he’s expected to make with his arm. He may not always make it, but still not THAT impressive.
NYCBrave
May 27th, 2009
11:53 pm
My MLBTV also froze, what a piece of crap this service
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:54 pm
Chipper likes to alternate between dip and bubble gum…how MLB of him…
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:54 pm
What is the latest with Escobar??
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:54 pm
3 K game for Chipper?
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
Yes, Eric from MO.
Frank from KS
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
N8
Ya mentioned getting accepted as a *friend* on Tawney Kitaen’s Facebook page.
Take away all the drugs, and diseases…..she’d be one I definately wouldn’t kick out of bed. :>)
Lol
Dipstick McGee
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
Andy C, How’d you like that AB from Bob Horner just now?
DAM
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
We really don’t make use of Schafer’s skill set. We’ve got a team that lacks both power and speed. So, what do we do with our one hitter who has decent speed? Bat him 8th so that every time he gets a hit in front of the pitcher he doesn’t get to take advantage of that speed. He either has to stand on 1st and wait for the pitcher to make the third out to ensure that the lineup turns over, or he has to allow the pitcher to drop down a sac bunt.
Look, I agree with everyone else that Schafer has issues with his swing that need to be worked out. However, if we’re going to continue to start him while he works through it all, let’s at least take advantage of the skills he offers rather than letting them rot.
Yes, I realize he scored just now. All I’m saying is, would you rather never take advantage of his speed by having him hit 8th, causing us to have to use an out to move him up a base … or would you rather let him try to use that speed and move up a base on his own without using up an out?
Poorjeff
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
joe & boog suck.
Daybed Wagmoe
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
I’m having trouble with MLBTV and “game in commercial break” also.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
NYC up until tonight I hadnt had a problem with it since opening week and it was fine until this last half inning.
Tomahawkin
May 27th, 2009
11:55 pm
Wayne In Utah
Regarding the Fakers
That’s why I stopped watching the Facre known as the NBA since the Mid 90’s
Necromancer
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
well, one run is better than nothing..and its just the 6th
BigMacAttack
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
“Chipper likes to alternate between dip and bubble gum…how MLB of him…”
as long as he doesn’t look like he has a rat in his mouth like Bennett normally does when he’s nawing on something.
The Truth
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
Chipper looked bad there. Imagine if he had to go on the disabled list. This team would be finished.
Bill
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
Chipper’s eye ain’t hurt, why was he swinging at all those ball fours? Wanting to make something happen before Prado got up there?
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
Wayne,
Escobar is taking a break while we start to sink and continue to stink.
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
Okay I know I might sound crazy but how IN THE HECK. or WHY. Would you leave an obviously hurt player in there to hit? I know some of us hate Kelly but I think he would have had a better chance at a hit there than Chipper.
oldschool
May 27th, 2009
11:56 pm
Chips going to the dl guranteed
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:57 pm
Looks like we’ll be playing the D’backs without our starting third baseman.
Eric from MO
May 27th, 2009
11:57 pm
I was just getting ready to turn it off and go to bed and it came back on.
Wayne in Utah
May 27th, 2009
11:57 pm
I’m thinking that if we can start Diory H in the leadoff position, maybe we should put Schafer there instead??? With all our lineup issues, that would seem to be a no brainer to me???
cabravesfan
May 27th, 2009
11:57 pm
Wayne in Utah-
You are not wrong about the [expletive deleted] lakers. Been happening for years (2002? 27 4th quarter free throws in game 6? back when i was a kings fan? Yeah. that still hurts!) Then again my felings regarding the [expletive deleted] lakers is pretty well documented so I may not be the best person to ask
David..(Athens, AL)
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
i agree chipper will be going on dl
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
3 strike outs for chipper he is hurt fat A$$ take him out. It very simple wetard move pado to tirdbase and put kelly at 2nd base.
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
Wayne,some people stand to lose a lot of money if they don’t get Kobe vs. LeBron. You’ve seen the commercials right? Of course they get calls. That’s part of the NBA. They have more than a little WWF in them
Tokyo Bravo
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
Geez, three hits and a single run through six innings against a 75-year old Fezzik, for heaven’s sakes.
Pass the nachos…
bravos2249
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
Bill
You have a point. Being hurt in the feet, hands, whatever has nothing to do with his eyes. IDK why he was swinging at bad pitches.
I also don’t know why Kelly isn’t at 2nd and Prado at 3rd when it’s obviously to a deaf man he’s hurt.
Doc Holiday
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
Same old story……….Chipper is playing hurt, he is not feeling well……….3 Ks……… Got to wonder why do players today get so much money if they dont perform like in the old days………bunch of pu…………
Louis
May 27th, 2009
11:58 pm
Bill @11:56, those were my thoughts exactly
Rob in Mobile
May 27th, 2009
11:59 pm
It’s a testament to how poor the Braves’ offense is that someone who really belongs on the DL is up there, gimpy and swinging away (and missing).
kirkinga
May 27th, 2009
11:59 pm
I’d like to thank MLB.tv for not allowing me to see the Braves score their run. I enjoy missing an entire half-inning.
winterville
May 27th, 2009
11:59 pm
It seems like in the NBA the home team always gets the calls.
uga-brave
May 27th, 2009
11:59 pm
DOB,
i think prado might of got lost in Berkley today.
Turkeylegs
May 28th, 2009
12:00 am
Why would Cox sit both Kelly and McCann? This lineup is a joke.
The Truth
May 28th, 2009
12:00 am
If Chipper hits the DL, then he is out till June 12th. That would about do it for this team. Shame on Wren. When your two best players miss games, it makes it that more important to not clog up other posts in the lineup…..Anderson, Francoeur.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:00 am
uga-brave-
now that cracked me up
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:01 am
a643dp
LOL
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
12:01 am
“Braves, Chipper Jones finalize contract extension : $42 million deal runs through 2012 and includes a vesting option for 2013″
How fun are the next 3 years going to be? “Chipper is about to be put on the DL, can you guess by which ailment?? …. Times up, the answer we were looking for is “memory loss” since Chipper can’t remember where third base is.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:01 am
Once again KK is giving us the chance to win………..no offense to show for the effort……….Cox ball at its best.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
KK, Come On!!!
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
big run out there at 3rd
Micki
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
Headline tomorrow…Chipper, Yunel to DL..
Choppinmama
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
Chipper needs to order a couple of Phiten anklets and a Phiten toe ring to help get those lower extremeties healed up. Whatever works. Just Do It!!
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
Doc, I know, really! Cox K’d like 3 times tonight with runners in scoring position. Man, he stinks at the plate!
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:02 am
Isn’t it just horse S*** that this team has soo much trouble the past like 10 or so years winning 1 run games, but they won their only WS in a 1 run affair. Just saying, I’m sure everyone has thought this at one point.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:03 am
We will lose 3-1 and KK will be pointed as a loser……….and he is not.
#3
May 28th, 2009
12:03 am
BREAKING NEWS: This just in, Chipper to be DL’d with bruised hair follicles. The injury happened this morning as Chipper was brushing his hair after showering. He will be unable to wear a helment for 10-14 days.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:03 am
Yea KamaKaze didn’t have his best stuff, but he bared down when he needed to…If we lose Chalk it up to the AWFense once again…
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:04 am
How much you wanna bet this ball is hit to Chipper and he can’t make the play?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:05 am
Man This is a key at bat here, And it will prolly decide the game!
Come On KK!
N8
May 28th, 2009
12:05 am
“Take away all the drugs, and diseases…..she’d be one I definately wouldn’t kick out of bed. :>)” Frank from KS
Yeah, in 1986, maybe. Besides. It was a joke. I’m not one of her “friends”.
She has yet to accept me.
#3
May 28th, 2009
12:05 am
helmet
Eric from MO
May 28th, 2009
12:05 am
Crazy how many people got mad at me when I said we shouldnt of signed Chipper to an extension and should of let him walk to the AL at the end of the year because he cant stay healty and now everyone complains because he is hurt AGAIN! You can build a team around a guy who is constantly hurt. I also remember everyone telling his injury woes are probably behind him and he will play at least 135 games. Still dont understand that wishful thinking.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
The umpire blocks balls better than McCann.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
GAME OVER
Kamakaze Hung One, Fck!!!
#3
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
BALLGAME!
Eric from MO
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
Well got to work in the morning. Going to bed.
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
Well that run was crapped away quick.
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
12:06 am
awe, and they get the run back.
Turkeylegs
May 28th, 2009
12:07 am
Wow, just looked at tonight’s lineup again, and wow, what an embarrassment! With Chipper all gimped up, there’s not a serious threat out there.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:07 am
Eric from MO
Now anyone that said he wouldn’t get hurt is stupid, but he could still play that many games with some DL trips.
JD
May 28th, 2009
12:07 am
#3 – Lame.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:07 am
ball game. No doubt about it.
David..(Athens, AL)
May 28th, 2009
12:07 am
bad pitch there … hung a curve
Dipstick McGee
May 28th, 2009
12:08 am
“Isn’t it just horse S*** that this team has soo much trouble the past like 10 or so years winning 1 run games, but they won their only WS in a 1 run affair. Just saying, I’m sure everyone has thought this at one point”
This season we have a tough time just scoring 1 run in a game.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:08 am
Turkeylegs
Seems to me Chipper thought he wouldn’t get pitched to, cause of Prado. Well big surprise…HE DID, and he didn’t deliver.
#3
May 28th, 2009
12:08 am
Thanks JD
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:08 am
David..(Athens, AL)
Hey I’m from Athens. AL too…..small world buddy
Trey06
May 28th, 2009
12:09 am
Game over. See ya in AZ.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:09 am
Get KamaKaze out NOW….!
He has thrown a dozen 56 footers within the last 2 innings!
groundfog
May 28th, 2009
12:09 am
Smoltz is going to end up being more healthy the next two years than Chipper, and probably play more games.
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
We are so screwed if Escobar and Chipper both hit the DL. We’ve got zero infielders in AAA worth bringing up. There’s Canizares but he’s apparently as agile as a tree trunk on the field.
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May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
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Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
here comes the Booger!!!
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
kAMAKAZESAN NEEDS TO SLOOOOOOW DOWN A LITTLE MORE!!!
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
Tomahawkin
Doesn’t matter, if he had given up 1 run he’d gotten a ND.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
Man, is it really only the 6th inning?
pryguy
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
is KK getting squeezed?
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:10 am
Eric from Mo, I agree. I love chipper but sometimes you have to cut the cord and let it go. Maybe its time.
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:11 am
I’d just assume Kawakami stay in than let Moylan come in with runners on.
Wayne in Utah
May 28th, 2009
12:11 am
KK didn’t pitch too badly. Too many bases on balls though….
groundfog
May 28th, 2009
12:11 am
Once again Bobby waits untill all the wheels fall off before he decides somethings wrong
AndyC
May 28th, 2009
12:11 am
My bad DOB. Good thing Ross was in the game to make that play.
uga-brave
May 28th, 2009
12:11 am
KK’s whip tonight plus 2. not good.
oh SNAP!
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
groundfog
Usnless Chipper is out for a year there is NO way that’s possible. MO-RAN
Mixxo
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
In KK’s defense, he actually didn’t pitch that bad. We make a couple of plays and this is a tie ball game.
Jus sayin’
mets fan in atlanta
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
Its funny all the garbage and insults most of you had before the game towards Randy Johnson, but some of you forget that he’s going for career win #299. The man knows how to pitch. According to him, he wasn’t focused when he pitched against the Mets a little over a week ago in that Fox Game of the Week. Since then, he pitched a gem against Seattle in his homecoming, and now tonight. Granted your lineup isn’t helping, but you have to go with what you’ve got.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
Not everyone, Eric.
Chipper is what he is. An aging HOF’er whose baseball mind is as sharp as they come but whose body is 37 years old. I still say Chipper, for even just 120-130 games, is better than anyone else we have for 162.
Wayne in Utah
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
Hasn’t Moylan been a bit better as of late??
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:12 am
TnBrian,
If he is not responsible for losing why is he the manager? Braves will lose regardless of who the manager is, right? so they could use tha bat boy as their manager……….it makes no difference……….
It is his fault………..not 100% of course but the greatest part of it.
You think it is a coincidence LaRusa was a winner in Oak and he still is in StL??? or what about torre………lots of people said that when he was gone from the yankees he would be exposed because yankees could have won with anybody as their manager…………..now he is in LA and he is proving he is a great manager. Look at Scioscia, his top pitchers are down and he manages to win, even with Vlad hurting.
What do we had with cox? 10 times the patience we would like for him to have with some players and excuses………nothing else. With the kind of pitching braves have………..there is no excuse to be this bad……….NONE.
We have Lowe……….among leaders in wins if not the leader………..JJJ among top 3 in ERA and Vazquez among top 3? in Ks? Kawakami giving us a good effort 80% of the times………..Moylan, soriano and Gonzalez in the bullpen…………..and what do we have to show for? a team that struggles to stay at .500………. We celebrated geting back to .500 like if we have won the pennant……..come on. This is absurd.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:13 am
cabravesfan
WHAT!
I thought is was the frickin 8th….my eyes must have merged the 6 together.
Moylan in to give em up again.
Trey06
May 28th, 2009
12:13 am
It’s going to be embarrassing watching this team in hostile territory for 4 games. AZ scores runs. We don’t. And with Chipper most likely out and Esco not playing, we’re REALLY dead.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:13 am
Kamakaze Once again deserved a better fate for giving a chance for his team 2 win…
I said it before that Plain and Simple this is a display of Uninspired baseball tonight…
I know this game isn’t over but they seem like they are just trying to get to the next off day. I don’t boo when I go to games but I Would if I was at the game tonight. It’s one thing to get shut down by great pitching but it’s another to don’t care about getting Punk’d by the Jubroni teams of the league
It seems like we love to lay down against the Garbage teams of the league
Wonder Why people rather go to see the Gwinnett Braves more!!!!
ARRRRGHHH!!!
Mixxo
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
Well Pete’s in.
This one’s over folks!
groundfog
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
oh Snap I was being facetious-I’ll prepare you next time.
Wayne in Utah
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
Maybe I spoke a tad bit too soon on Moylan?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
Moylan looks like Garbage as well!
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
aWWW Gadsdammit what a sickly bunch of wannabes sonofabitch I am so done with this gag and puke show!!!!!!
hey Wren do us all a favor and fire that crankly old B@stard in the dugout!!!!
Frank from KS
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
N8 re: your 12:05 am post
Oh yeah…I can still her on the hood of the car in the Whitesnake video.
I forgot one thing to add to my post….the fact that she’s just a bit psycho(sp). I think she turned psycho while with Chuck Finley.
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
…and , yes, there we go. Thanks Bobby!
Well at least RJ is out of there.
Rob from SC
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
why is Moylan still on this team
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
Gawd dammit moylan needs to go to the land down under and take this team with him
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
12:14 am
Man, Kawakami has labored tonight, but we still have a chance to give up just three runs through six if moylan does his job here…… oh well.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
Man, we are making these guys look like the ‘27 Yankees.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
I love high life guy.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
bravos2249-
the really sad part is that I am complaining and it’s only 9:15 out here…
Joe Paterno
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
Hey DOB how about Carlos Lee of Houston makes more sense than most names mentioned so far
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
heck of a play by kotchman, Molina almost beat him to the bag
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
Needed to do that one pitch earlier, Peter.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
THERE IS NO MOTIVATION IN THIS GROUP………THAT IS CONTAGIOUS.
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:15 am
Thanks DOB for taking me to task!
Kyle
May 28th, 2009
12:16 am
Was there this much pessimism about the braves when they lost in the late 90s? Im a young guy so wasn’t too aware of the fan’s attitudes…
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:16 am
You know… Moylan is utter crap. Post surgery, he has been awful.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:16 am
cabravesfan
lol it’s only 11:16 here
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:16 am
Making a play for Mark Derosa seems like an even better idea now that half our infield seems to be falling apart.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:16 am
Doc, I agree Bobby is stubborn as a mule…example, playing JF daily and on and on. I just think some of the bashing on the man goes overboard sometimes. Not saying you do all the time, but had to comment on your thoughts from earlier.
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:17 am
A team this bad, you have to put the blame on Wren and Bobby. They put this team together.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:17 am
If the Astros have Pence they’d take Frenchy right?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:18 am
Good E-4 Maybe this AWFense will Wake The F…K UP!!!!
mets fan in atlanta
May 28th, 2009
12:18 am
And for you “quality start” lovers, that wasn’t one….sorry.
TennesseePaul
May 28th, 2009
12:19 am
So is Chipper hurt? Or did he help out Schafer by ‘K’-osmosis?
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:19 am
Jesus, if Frenchy comes up with 2 on here, could it be the at bat that decides his fate with the Braves?
Wilson
May 28th, 2009
12:19 am
Kawakami didn’t pitch that bad, certainly good enough to keep us in the game….provided we had anything that even remotely resembled an offense, which we don’t.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:19 am
Kyle
The Braves Rarely dropped 2 of 3 to Garbage teams in the 90’s in General
And there wasn’t blogs as well
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:20 am
Did they just say it was in the low 30s there?
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:20 am
Oh no…not Stenchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 28th, 2009
12:20 am
Come on, Frenchy, man up!
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:21 am
Rally Killer Up, Lets See what happens
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:21 am
here we go again, Trade that useless turd to the Damn Bosox already!!! And for godsakes FIRE that Homo Joe Simpson too!!!!!!
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:21 am
I’m beginning to hate you Jeff.
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
12:21 am
Come on frenchy the bo sox are watchin
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:22 am
Way to go kid!
Dennis Green
May 28th, 2009
12:22 am
Francoeur is who we THOUGHT he was!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 28th, 2009
12:22 am
Never mind.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:22 am
RIP Jeff. Your time here is numbered, pal. Thanks for the 6 weeks of memories in 2006. Since then, you have been garbage.
TennesseePaul
May 28th, 2009
12:22 am
It’d be nice if Francoeur even had warning-track power, this shallow-outfield stroke is killing the team.
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:23 am
Way to make the pitcher throw you a strike, Jeff
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:23 am
That boy is about as useless as a Kleenex is to Booby Kooks!!!
Dennis Green
May 28th, 2009
12:23 am
If you wanna crown him, then crown his ass! But he’s who we thought he was!
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:23 am
And for you “quality start” lovers, that wasn’t one….sorry.
Uh, it wasn’t a disaster either. But thanks for the brilliant statement of the obvious.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:23 am
That Stenchcouer is about as useless as leenex is to Booby Kooks!!!!
Ryan in TN
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
Don’t get too excited were snake bit Medders had trouble throwing strikes and Francouer will swing at the first pitch everytime. This is horrible, if Chipper and Esco go to the DL the season is over because we will be 5 games out before June 1st. And the big bat everybody wants even he can’t carry this offense without Chipper and Yunel.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
hmmm..Tom Kelly of the Twinkies managed from 86 to 01 and hung it up citing burnout. He was a great manager during the day. He knew it was time to go.
I think that the Booger needs to follow suit. Lord help me, I’ve tried not to be this way, but the Braves just seem uninspired and lacksadaisical (sp).
That starts with the manager.
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
Another one pitch AB after a walk. Frenchy, thy name is dimwit.
Mixxo
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
Good place for Mac to go bayside.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
God what hapened to this kid. He has been awful for so long now. Why is he playing every day?
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
“Their pitcher just walked a guy. I think i’ll do something STUPID and swing at the first pitch!” wheee
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
Hey, look at the brightside. At least he didn’t GIDP.
uga-brave
May 28th, 2009
12:24 am
anyone consider the guy might have ADD. gotta take a pitch in that spot.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:25 am
Please tell me the rumors of the BoSox scouting Frenchy are true. Heck, I wish anyone would scout the guy – the Walla Walla Walleyes, the Bakersfield Hub Caps, anyone……..
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:25 am
TnBrian,
I agree Bobby doesnt stands at the batters box, but he clearly is not tough on his guys, he lets them cry like babies, that why they like him. We have a team made of 50% men and 50% babies…………..men…………. Lowe, vazquez, diaz, mc, soriano, etc…………….babies………..JF, yunel, jojo, medlen, schafer………….There is a great lack of character on this team, and that is not players fault but the people in front of them……….coaches, manager, executives, as POORJEFF accurately mentions.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:25 am
SHUT UP JOE SIMPSON I AM GETTING NAUSEAUS LISTENING TO YOU AND THE BOOGER MAN!!!
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:25 am
its crossed my mind, uga brave. He’s like the love child of Adam Laroche and Gomer Pyle.
David..(Athens, AL)
May 28th, 2009
12:26 am
jeff, jeff, jeff, … i don’t hear joe getting om him for swinging at the first pitch after a walk … like he did on GA last night
RHR (The Eternal Optimist)
May 28th, 2009
12:26 am
Hey Joebrave, look at the brightside, at least they’re not talking about the facebook page.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:27 am
Man do we miss Infante…..he should PH for Schafer right there.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:27 am
$hit can Simpson stay off of anyone’s jock strap???
If Stenchcouer winks at him he is going to soil himself!!!!
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:27 am
uga-brave, he definitely has something wrong with him, Frenchy I mean. If he never had symtoms of some kind of disorder, the stress and pressure he’s facing might have caused something. Bless his soul, but it’s just wiring towards the end with him as a Brave.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:28 am
Oh NO, K-Fer Up in A big Situation!
David..(Athens, AL)
May 28th, 2009
12:28 am
ok joe … i take back my comment
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:28 am
K’fer doing his best Francoeur impression.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:28 am
TP…preach to your hitter NOT to swing when the pitcher is wild, you MORON!
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:28 am
yOU KNOW THE oFFENSE sucks WHEN bUFORD THE bUZZARD MAKES YOU LOOK PATHETIC!!!!
Louis
May 28th, 2009
12:29 am
I don’t think there is anyone else in baseball that I have seen that has Jeff’s mentality at the plate. It would be one thing if there were players that take Jeff’s approach and are successful. But there isn’t.
The fact that Jeff can continue to adhere to his crappy hitting approach when there is no proof that it works…and plently of indication that it doesn’t…makes me have zero sympathy for him!
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
12:29 am
The difference between our team and good teams is they don’t let our best players beat them but we let their best players beat us
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:29 am
LOAF GARRET!?!?!?!
Bobby Cox is throwing these games.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the on deck circle
May 28th, 2009
12:29 am
Don’t worry guys, I’m a professional hitter.
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:29 am
Way to swing at a pitch nowhere near the strike zone, Jordan.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Good God Schafer and Frenchy are absolutely destroying this team
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Gawd Dammit!!! Send K-Fer’s A..s DOWN NOW, I’m Tired Of this Shyt!!!!
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the on deck circle
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Loaf did it!
Mixxo
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Professional Hitter
Ho Hum……
Dipstick McGee
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Gotta feel bad for Schafer.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Good job Garret. I’ll lay off him for tonight.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
RHR, I hear ya man!!!Oh lord now Simpson is going to gush all-over G-Loaf!!!
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
There We Go Loaf! Bout Fcking Time OOhhh!
SHEfer
May 28th, 2009
12:30 am
Wow that swing was like 5, 6 feet off the plate.. I tip my cap
Frenchy is one lost little boy. Back to the corner, you worthless turd. 1st pitch outs are killing everyone. ENOUGH
David O'Brien
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
Professional hitter’s still got something left in the tank, it would appear.
David..(Athens, AL)
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
niceat ab GA
Rob from SC
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
we love you LOAF!
for now
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the on deck circle
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
And I know how to spell LIMO, don’t be fooled by cheap impersonators.
DJ
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
GARRET ANDERSON!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:31 am
6 for 11 in GA’s career against Jeremy Affeldt…….
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the on deck circle
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
yall see me smiling?
Rob from SC
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
I used to feel bad for Schafer, but since he started swinging at balls, I feel worse for me having to watch it. He looks lost.
Coach (2010 or Bust
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
We found our pinch hitter. Garret Anderson.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
Man That run Moylan gave up Hurts Now…
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
Shocker, more first pitch swinging fails.
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:32 am
Once again, that boneheaded play at the plate rears its ugly head.
rotty
May 28th, 2009
12:33 am
Fair blog DOB but a total buzz kill.
Hot stove banter keeps fans of flawed teams like the Braves going.
Now on to finding a mint Porsche 356 in a farmers barn for $75. It could happen.
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
12:33 am
If the bullpen blows number 299, Fezzik will crush them all in his mighty hands.
And then eat them. With bleu cheese fries.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:33 am
Told you GA is doing lot better………..thats not the guy that needs to go.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:33 am
Feel bad for Schitfer brains??? Why in the hell would someone want to feel bad for an inept little turd that can’t hit his own weight??? The little queef cheated to get the minor league numbers he had, and now you see the real J.Schitfer!!!
Chip Carey's Eyebrows
May 28th, 2009
12:34 am
say what you want about garret anderson, but he is not the problem with this outfield production thing. He hasn’t found his power stroke yet, but he has been pretty good making contact since coming off the dl. Schafer is learning, Francouer is lost.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:34 am
Coach (2012…)
Yea He is definitely next in line for Pinch Hitter status…
Let Me Get it Right for Ya, “Professional Pinch hitter”
Mike
May 28th, 2009
12:34 am
T.P. needs to teach this team to STOP SWINGING AT THE FIRST PITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a643dp
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
Ever dip$hit that swung at the first pitch are the three guys that cost the big inning French swung at the first pitch, Jordan KKKaferswung at the first pitch, and D. Hernandez. All unproven players. B. Cox needs to start giving the take sign God Danggggggggggggggggggggg.
Arthur Blank
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
If I owned the Braves,I would spend money on this team so they wouldn’t stink so bad.
Don’t worry, I’ll make another play to buy the team.
Boy oh boy, Liberty Media has done to the Braves what the Smith family did to the Falcons, and what William Clay Ford is doing to the Lions!
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
Fred Lewis is not the most common name for a black man
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
K-fer has GOT to go he’s clearly not ready and he’s embarrasing himself
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
Yet another lesson in waiting until an AB or inning is over before you incorrectly predict events….again!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
“We found our pinch hitter. Garret Anderson.”
Yeah, that would keep him out of the outfield.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:35 am
I wonder if Simpson shares a room with the Boog-e-man???
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
whats with calling people you dont even know horrible names joebravee your a class act buddy. Grow up you make this blog almost unreadable with your inept 5th grade comments.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
They are in San Franchico!!!
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
Wow, there are 3 guys in the majors with more K than Schafer…………and AJ is not one of them.
They just showed a graphic on TV……….braves OF last in HR, runs scored in the majors………….there was another category I just cant recall, think it was OBP.
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
Can you imagine the scouting report on people like Schafer and Frenchy? “Whatever you do, don’t throw them a good first pitch. They’ll jump all over any ole junk.”
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
Eric O’Flaherty is the Brian McCann of the non-Gonzalez/Soriano relief pitchers.
Peter Moylan is the Jeff Francoeur.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
Bite it Billy
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:36 am
DOB, I wish you’d just say what you and most of us are thinking: that Francoeur is NOT professional. GA just did what major league baseball players are supposed to do: have a plan, wait for the right pitch, and get the best wood on it you can.
JEB
May 28th, 2009
12:37 am
I think it’s really sad – when you love this team, but you hate to see certain guys (frenchy & schafer) come to bat.
Geez, I wish these guys would turn things around! Would really hate to see Frenchy go somewhere else and watch him become another Derosa.
little old granny from Alabama who loves her some Braves
May 28th, 2009
12:37 am
GRIEF–Bobby is more senile than ole’ Bubba was when he passed at the age of 102. Those darn Braves give me high blood pressure and at my age I can’t afford that mess. Jeffy just looks lost and he oughta come to old granny and I’ll give him a spanking for all those first pitch hacks. Then I’ll make him wash my dentures. Jordan S. looks like a elf, but old granny will man him up real QUICK!
Louis
May 28th, 2009
12:37 am
that inning really showcased the difference between veteran hitters and rookies (including Jeff).
why is it so hard to learn how to take a pitch Jordan, Jeff, Hernandez…
also, besides opening day has Jordan ever gotten a hit swinging at a first pitch?
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
What you gotta mancrush on Schitfer,or Stenchcouer????or is it Booby??? fifth grade??? learn to utilize the hillbillyejucashun you got there first little boy!!!!
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
Rally the troops, boys, I’m going to bed.
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
Boy oh boy, Liberty Media has done to the Braves what the Smith family did to the Falcons
Uh, sorry but that’s just False! We are nowhere near what those days were like for the Falcons. Just no comparison.
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
Blaine Boyer is the Jordan Shafer
ArkyTech
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
Garrett Anderson just passed Josh Anderson in RBI.
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
wow, i expected something a little bit more orginal guess you cant expect much from 5th graders…..its ok buddy must be tough being you.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:39 am
2 out of the following 3 have to move…………if not we are not going anywhere……….JF, KJ, schafer
JReeves
May 28th, 2009
12:39 am
DOB, I know when the Braves are in a stretch like this, the comments on the ole’ Blog get pretty nasty…..which is fine, because people are passionate about their team. All the hot stove chatter is great…..but I think your blog makes an excellent point in regards to patience. To me, the issue falls with the INSANE amount of patience that Bobby and Wren show their guys. I’m not asking for Holliday or Hawpe overnight….but it does not take a genius to see that internal moves MUST be made. Give B.Jones a shot out there…..bench Frenchy, or platoon him with Diaz….have Kelly start taking fly balls in the outfield. DO SOMETHING. Clearly what we are running out there is just not going to get it done.
uga-brave
May 28th, 2009
12:39 am
hey look on the bright side. there is a chance that one of those seagulls that fly around the ballpark late in the game may of found some of barry’s old stash.
this large headed seagull may then mistake one of our outfielders for food, swoop down and carry him into the bay.
Mike
May 28th, 2009
12:39 am
Francouer needs to go back in the toilet where he belongs because he is a HUGE TURD!!!
Devil's Advocate--->
May 28th, 2009
12:39 am
The one and only Kirkinga!!!
pryguy
May 28th, 2009
12:40 am
ray k,
completely agree
Robert Kraft
May 28th, 2009
12:40 am
Hey all you Braves fans come out to Turner Field June 2nd for Kraft fan appreciation night. The first 15,000 fans will get a Jordan Schafer autographed bat made of swiss cheese.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:40 am
Bravesfan, that’s quite likely the game plan. Scouts aren’t saying Francoeur is the easiest guy to pitch to in the bigs for nothing…..
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
12:40 am
Goodness, even SF is getting to O’Flaherty.
Rob from SC
May 28th, 2009
12:41 am
Before I traded Francoeur, I would hire a new hitting coach, or send him to McCann’s dad for a month. Put him on the DL for sucking.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:41 am
Oh Gawd, Look at your hero Billy, Schitfer strikes again!!!
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 28th, 2009
12:41 am
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:38 am
LOL what was that, oh I forgot you dont get to dictionarys till 6th grade.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:41 am
Told ya Chipper would end up costing us a run.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:41 am
You guys ever notice that every time we pull within one or two, we give one or two back the very next inning?
Louis
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
o the days of andruw…
David..(Athens, AL)
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
give it right back …ugh!
Bill
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
Well, it being close for a while was nice.
Can the Braves score and NOT have the pitchers blow it instantly?
Arthur Blank
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
kirkinga
What do YOU know?
You’re even optimistic about the North Koreans doing the nuclear testing thing!
Chop It Up All-star
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
Sometimes this team just makes it hard to be a fan.
Mendel
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
My kid is a big fan & he seems to think Chip will not be in the lineup because the Unit is on the mound. If he’s right he get’s a new transformers ……I win, he has to do extras chores. BaseballNut
then your kid is an idiot. probably inherited it.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
You don’t even know what one looks like buttplug!!!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:42 am
Ray K., I’m sure quite a few have noticed…..
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:43 am
Bill
What part of that ball that wen past Chipper could not have been a DOUBLE PLAY?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:43 am
Game Over!!!
ABravesFan
May 28th, 2009
12:43 am
Wren trading Josh Anderson is looking like a huge mistake.
Epic Fail
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:44 am
Josh Anderson passed GA two times going to 1st.
The Braves can’t stand it…get 2 give 2 back.
Joebrave
May 28th, 2009
12:44 am
Okay I have wasted enough time on this garbage can team, Wren until you do something about this $hit ,I am calling for a complete Boycott of Turdner Field immediately!!!
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:44 am
And the middle relief is still a problem for the Braves. With the offense as bad as it is, we need a near perfect middle relief and set of closers. EOF has been good, but Moylan just isn’t himself, we can’t be giving up runs like this.
6-3, too much for this offense to overcome. It’s so sad, but true. Braves just aren’t good enough to win this division. And Bobby once again makes a move too late. Guy doesnt have it, but he leaves him in. Same old Bobby night in and night out.
dylan w/o the dead
May 28th, 2009
12:44 am
I want a moon pie
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 28th, 2009
12:44 am
Joe the problem is I dont worship baseball players….seems to me your insecure in you own world you have to pick on people you dont even know….your the defintion of “internet tough guy”. Its ok I understand its tough being you. peace bro.
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Well this game has not been fun…oh, how I long for the braves of two weeks ago
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
lol, braves tried so hard to just to score 2 and O’flar..whatever, easily gives it right back.
“This is our team” this is what we have to look forward to every day … *sigh*
ABravesFan
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Chippers extension is also looking like a huge mistake.
Dude looks old and done for.
Ray K.
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Yeah, Rob, but it seems like EVERY GAME that we’re down by 3 or 4 in the 6th or 7th, we score a couple, and then give them right back minutes later.
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Ok…now we’re in disaster territory. We just caught the Giants ant the wrong time, everything going right for them, just as we caught the Blue Jays at the right time and everything went right for us.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Chipper hurts this team by playing hurt. Sometimes they need to just suck it up and let Chipper heal no matter if he says he can go or not. Happens every year that he rushes injuries and ends up with a nagging injury.
Tennbravefan
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
For the record Diaz/Anderson are on pace to have 91 RBI’s combined. They are a very servicable combination in left. Schafer and Francouer are ruining this team. AT LEAST ONE HAS TO GO. Try something different….anything different.
Ron Roberts
May 28th, 2009
12:45 am
Jordan Schafer has no business batting in the bigs, right now, folks; pure and simple. He seems to idolize Jeff Francoeur’s approach at the plate, and this team can ill-afford two such guys in the lineup, right now.
Wow, I mean, I realize the team’s options are limited, but good grief, there has to be a way to sit him, send him down, put Dias and Garrett in the lineup at the same time til we figure something better out.
The more this season plays out, the more signing Glav and Kawakami (who’s actually a quality #3 or #4 at this point, really) instead of going after Ibanez looks foolhardy. Yeah, pitching woes, 2008, yada yada yada; but we over-did it, in retrospect, and that power bat we’re lacking is RAKING for the Philthies.
The good news is, nobody’s running away with the NL (L)East, so the sense of ‘urgency’ isn’t there, but I have serious doubts we’ll be able to hover around .500 through July with Schafer showing NO signs of actually learning anything about his approach at the plate, and with Francoeur just being, well, Francoeur. We need better out of their slots in the lineup. And I think in the next 30-45 days.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
I want a moon pie
can someone please enlighten me as to what, exactly, a moon pie is?
Dipstick McGee
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
Manny Acosta. This should get interesting.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
MFin04 – “And Bobby once again makes a move too late. Guy doesn’t have it, but he leaves him in. Same old Bobby night in and night out.”
And same old Bobby tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day…………..
Chop It Up All-star
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
14 hits for San Fran…now that’s a joke.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
I thought Schafer was still in the majors because he could field his position-
Original Jon
May 28th, 2009
12:46 am
OMG, we are about to be swept by the Lowly Giants, I mean, seriously!!!! How the hell does Randy ‘I am 80 something years old, but can still get Braves hitters out’ Johnson only give up 1 run in 6 innings. He looked like Cy Young out there. And there goes our boy O’Flaherty finally joining the rest of the pen in being mediocre.
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
12:48 am
I’m loving the 98 mph from Acosta!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:48 am
cabravesfan, they are a popular item down here in Mobile, especially during Mardi Gras (and Mobile is the true home of Mardi Gras). It’s two chocolate (or banana, or vanilla) soft cookies with a marshmallow center – think of a jumbo Oreo cookie with a marshmallow middle.
Chop It Up All-star
May 28th, 2009
12:48 am
DOB you’re around the players all the time, does Jeff Francoeur really not get that swinging at the first pitch, particularly when it’s not your pitch, is a bad idea. Chipper or some of the other vets don’t rag him about that? Is he trying to get released on purpose?
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:49 am
Can’t we all say Wren trading Josh is bad in hindsight? If Josh was hitting .240 and GA was tearing it up no one would be saying anything. Almost every single one of you wanted Schafer to start, and that had nothing to do with GA. The fact that the Braves didn’t want both Josh Anderson and Schafer on this team lead to them signing him. Get Over it.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
12:49 am
I wish the Braves would just play passionately. They don’t even act like they want to win. I mean, really!
Once upon a time, they would have responded right back with 3 or 4 runs of their own…
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
12:50 am
Oh god I’m so sick of all you idiots bringing up the josh anderson trade! K-fer sucks but please give that a rest.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
12:50 am
Rob in Mobile-
Appreciate it, thanks! I’ve always wondered what they were…and now I want one too
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
12:50 am
if the braves do make some trades, it needs to be for the future. Start rebuilding the minors with guys who have potential. If Francoeur is traded to the Red Sox, we need to get 1-2 minor league guys in return. Same thing if they trade one of our excess starters.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
12:51 am
cabravesfan
and you have to have an RC Cola with a moon pie!
It’s just Southern Logic!
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:51 am
Gawd Dammit!!!No-Fcking Accountability at all for the Fcking AWFense! No Accountability from Bobby, From the Players, Fron TP, WTF!!!
TP Needs To go!
Send K-fer’s A..s Down and Dump Francoeur I’m tired of this “Atlanta Golden Boy Crap” Had It been Heyward struggling like this some of the fans/media (xcluding D.O.B.) would of ran him out of Town a long time ago
Last but Not Least Bring Ned Yost in and Let Bobby Go Out before it gets any worse
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:51 am
Josh Anderson 304 ba 10 sb 10 rbi , so what does that tell you about Spring Training hot spells.Thanks Bobby.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:51 am
“Can’t we all say Wren trading Josh is bad in hindsight?”
Sure – we can, but hindsight isn’t going to do us a dang bit of good. Whining about it isn’t either. What’s done is done. This is Frank and Bobby’s mess to clean up, which means it won’t likely get done any time soon…..
Bobby's Cox
May 28th, 2009
12:51 am
Our blowpen is as streaky as our Awfense.
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:52 am
What’s almost as pathetic as Francour’s approach to hitting is the fact I’m probably going to watch these last two AB’s for the Braves (just in case)
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:52 am
There is no need to panic……….we have the best manager on earth , he will come up with something…………right?
Original Jon
May 28th, 2009
12:52 am
Hey, look at it this way, at least when we lose and the Giants win, we will have matching records, isnt that cute?? Finally 3 games above .500 again and we get swept by the Giants to put us right back at .500, this team is so pathetic.
uga-brave
May 28th, 2009
12:52 am
at least bay area steve is getting in some quality drinking time tonight.
SHEfer
May 28th, 2009
12:53 am
“Last but Not Least Bring Ned Yost in”
STFU!!!!!!
bravesgirlnc
May 28th, 2009
12:53 am
Luke Scott. I read on another blog that he might be a good fit here. He has got some pop for sure!
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:53 am
This team is getting to the point where it’s almost beyond fixing. Same stuff every night and no changes in sight. Very depressing. We did find a position for GA, permanent pinch hitter to replace Norton.
Dr. Van Nostrand
May 28th, 2009
12:53 am
bravos2249
You do realize that Josh Anderson has a pathetic .680 OPS this season, right? You also know that he’s posted an even more pathetic .506 OPS so far in May, right? Sure, he has 9 SB, but that’s really the only positive when you look at his stats. What do you think is so great about him?
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:54 am
cabravesfan, Necromancr is right – an RC cola is a must with a Moon Pie. RC is big down here, too. On New Year’s, Mobile has the “Moon Pie Drop,” sort of like a southern version of the ball in New York City….
Dah
May 28th, 2009
12:54 am
,I am calling for a complete Boycott of Turdner Field immediately!!! JoeBrave
how ’bout if you just boycott the blog, nitwit? That would be a public service.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:54 am
Cabraves, moon pies are nothing to write home about. Theyre cakey marshmellowey big cookie sort of things. I’ll send you one if youd like to try it lol.
This is the longest game ever. Just a few Minutes short of 3 hrs and 2 innings left. Good lord im going to bed. Night yall.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:54 am
Rob in Mobile
Did you not read my post? sheesh obviously not…it was basically telling people to get over it. If you did I’m sorry I blew up on you but the way you responded it doesn’t seem like it.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:54 am
Anyone notice that Casey Kotchman hits a ton of weak ground outs to the first baseman off of his hands? That’s two tonight.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
12:55 am
Swept by the team with the fewest runs scored in the majors (before the series started).
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:55 am
I’m calling it 4 K’s for Chipper!
Ron Roberts
May 28th, 2009
12:55 am
BigMacAttack…..problem is, if the Braves send Francoeur to Boston, somebody HAS to play RF for us once he’s gone, so just getting prospects isn’t the answer.
Doc Holliday….I’m fully aware what Schafer’s still here for; but his defense was never in-question. I guarantee you if Frank Wren could go back and undo the Anderson trade to Detroit, though, knowing what he knows now, he’d have started the year platooning ‘em both. Josh Anderson was our OF insurance policy “if” Schafer wasn’t ready.
Well, Schafer isn’t ready.
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
12:55 am
Right Doc, you bet! I wouldn’t trust my —– with Bobby.
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
12:55 am
Golden Sombrero 1st time in Chippers career
Original Jon
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
Theres Chippers 4th strikeout of the night, isnt that wonderful.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
Let me say this again, Chipper is hurting this team by playing hurt. Not sure what Bobby is watching, but Chipper should have been out of this game innings ago.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
Sit Chipper Down NOW!!! WTF Bobby!!!
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
First ever Golden sombrero for my Chipper?
i wish id gone to bed an hr ago.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
lol I guess we finally see what Schafer has been learning from Hoss ( joke)
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 28th, 2009
12:56 am
We don’t need Josh Anderson, our Braves are losing just fine without him
Chipper should be on the D.L.
Chop It Up All-star
May 28th, 2009
12:57 am
Jordan was tearing the cover off the ball in spring training, while the other candidates for CF were either off playing in the World Baseball Classic or just not hitting or playing as well. He earned the job, and like most rookies not named Pujols, he’s struggling. I think we could all live with a rookie struggling if we were getting anything from RF and more consistency from LF.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
12:57 am
Rob in Mobile
Shoot yeah, dude, you can get those things by the box full for dirt cheap, too!
I like em and all, but I don’t eat a lot of them cuz there loaded with calories and other “sinful” things.
But oh well.
Boo
May 28th, 2009
12:57 am
3 days ago: tied with Mets
After tonight: 3.0 GB of Mets
Fail.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:57 am
I agree…Chipper hasn’t exactly helped these last 2 days.
David O'Brien
May 28th, 2009
12:58 am
First time in 2,060 career games that Chipper has struck out four times. He had 28 three-strikeout games, none this season.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
12:58 am
Actually Pujols is kinda struggling. He’s been walked a ton and he’s struck out some.
DirtyYuni
May 28th, 2009
12:59 am
This team can look so good and then so bad. That equates to .500.
Night all.
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
12:59 am
Come On Martin, Throw The Fcking Helmet!!!!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
12:59 am
bravos2249, my mistake. I admit I sort of “breezed” over the first sentence, mainly because like you, I’m tired of reading about how we shouldn’t have traded Anderson. I’ll be a bit more careful in reading next time.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:59 am
Chipper should not have gotten the chance to get 2, 3 or 4 strikeouts today. He’s looked hurt at the plate all night long. He was going to have a tough time getting to first even if he hit the ball.
Prado got screwed!!!!
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
1:00 am
prado was robbed
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
1:00 am
Chipper had 8 K’s for the whole month before tonight….dam
Boo
May 28th, 2009
1:00 am
That was a “you’re not coming back anyways and I wanna go home” call on the Prado’s groundout.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:00 am
You know, moon pies are made here in Chattanooga. I worked there for like two weeks and it is grueling working the assembly line for 7 hours straight. I had Chipper Jones type feet after that week. And yeah, they’re not that tasty to me either.
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
1:01 am
suck it up prado. You’re team is going to get swept … you being on base isn’t going to change that.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:01 am
At this time it doesnt matter who we trade for, he (they) will end up playing as bad as anybody in this lineup………..
BTW, AJ is hitting above .290 for texas………….wasnt he supposed to be done for his career? Does playing nder bobby has anything to do with it…………..just think about it.
JF supposed to be a superstar…………failed
Schafer…………idem
Medlen………..idem
AJ leaves…………he plays better
GA comes——–he underproduces
TEX comes———idem
TEX leaves———he gets back to form
Kotchman comes……..lowers his production
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:01 am
Necromancer & Rob-
I may have to make do with a homemade version of the moon pie…not sure where i can get RC Cola out here
RHR-
cakey, marshmellowy, chocolatey goodness? What’s not to love there?
Original Jon
May 28th, 2009
1:01 am
WTH, we all should have known we were going to lose tonight, I mean, look at the stupid lineup that Bobby put up, PRADO BATTING CLEANUP AND DIAZ HITTING FIFTH?!?!?! Yeah, thats a lineup that strikes fear into opposing pitchers. I dont give a rats arse who is on the mound, we should have had McCann in there along with Kelly. This was a weak lineup and it showed.
Nicky Sanders
May 28th, 2009
1:02 am
Lordy as if having Tomahawkin wasn’t enough now we’ve got MFin04 too? Aye Yhay!
Pig People Everywhere!
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
1:02 am
Rob in Mobile
No problem. I mainly typed that…the first one about the trade….cause it’s last and I’m irritated. No problem, I just wanted to make sure you knew what I meant, lol. And that I probably knew you skimmed over it.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:02 am
You worked at the moon pie factory? Lol, that’s some cool trivia. I bet that was a pretty interesting job.
TNJeff
May 28th, 2009
1:02 am
who are the idiots still defending Jordan’s defensive skills???? Broke the wrong way and let a soft liner drop again.
What a bust for an outfield!
If Chipper didn’t have his arsenal of injuries, how would pitchers ever get him out?
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:03 am
Of all the games I have to miss…Haren v. D Lowe should be a great match up tomorrow
uga-brave
May 28th, 2009
1:03 am
9 hits one earned run in 17 straight innings. dan haren tomorrow night.
o-me
May 28th, 2009
1:04 am
Chop it: Jordon just got hot at right time. Earned it, well you got it and he’s looking great.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:04 am
TnBrian
They also go pretty good with chocolate milk. Something about chocolate milk helps enhance the flavor.
Eventhough there’s not much flavor to begin with.
TNJeff
May 28th, 2009
1:04 am
Mr Negativity is back …
THis team is a bunch of head cases
This team has a will to lose and lose they will
a643dp
May 28th, 2009
1:04 am
I dare any of you Fat A$$ Cox supporters to tell me why Chipper is still in the game. What?? Did KJ show up late to a meeting and you REFUSE to play him because of principal while the NL batting champ is playing his way to a 30 day DL stint instead of 15. This is the worst MLB game I have ever watched. From the crossups from the pitcher and all the WPs. The three stooges act by Ross , The tweedle dee and tweedle dumb show in CF and RF. To top it off Flobby Cox has our franchise player trying to pull a Wllis Red in May. JESUS CHRIST BOBBY COX SUCKS
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:04 am
Toronto has lost 9 in a row and they are 1.5 out………..WTF
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:05 am
Blaine Boyer is the Jordan Shafer
What exactly is the Jordan Shafer? And why is Blain Boyer one of these?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:05 am
Byt-chie Sanders
Did You see My last post addressed to You..?
If you don’t like it then so be it…!
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:05 am
Well said a643dp, well said!
TNJeff
May 28th, 2009
1:05 am
NEVER GET & KEEP MOMENTUM – not in an inning (always give back runs they score when trying to come back) and not in a season as 3 games above 500 has now been successfully blown.
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:05 am
Moon Pies are the best. I love the banana flavor. Made in Chattanooga. You can order them online: http://www.moonpie.com/
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:06 am
MFin04, yeah like six years ago. Me and my brother got the job through a temp. service, and it wasn’t that interesting for me. Of course, we had the worst job of most of the other workers there. I guess there are worse jobs though.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:06 am
I think I’d rather talk about moon pies than make my hair turn prematurely gray by griping about our baseball team…
a643dp
May 28th, 2009
1:06 am
willis Reed
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
1:07 am
does francour swing at the first pitch here?
Nicky Sanders
May 28th, 2009
1:07 am
At this time it doesnt matter who we trade for, he (they) will end up playing as bad as anybody in this lineup………..
I agree. Failure is contagious and so is winning. It’s going to take a several player change. Hopefully that change will come from players playing to their potential.
I want a moonpie too. We have Strawberry and Jalapeno(yes it works) flavored moonpies just down the street. 50 cent for pure joy!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
1:07 am
cabravesfan, Moon Pies are quite dry (but good with an RC), and RC (like Moon Pies) is a southern thing, so good luck finding some. You might be able to go to each of their websites and order them. I love Cheerwine (a cherry soda mainly sold in North Carolina) and I order it online and have a case shipped to me every now and then.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:08 am
I would bet my home, car and dog that we wont score a single run and that we will win next game by a margin of 8 runs…………wanna bet?
This season is 2008 all over again but now we have pitching and less offense (tex).
Pete Orr and Woodward fit this team perfectly, arent they available……….invite them to the dance.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:08 am
Necromancer, NO. Chocolate milk goes good with a big chunk of dip.
TNJeff
May 28th, 2009
1:08 am
The Braves Motto & Disclaimer all in one:
DON’T GET YOUR HOPES UP
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
TnBrian
There are worse jobs.
For 4 days last summer, I cleaned porta toilets til I got a more respectable job.
I saw some things and smelled some things I wish I never came across!
Note that it was the summer. You could only imagine the smell!
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
braves70, thanks for posting the Moon Pies link. I was certain you could order them online, but since they’re quite plentiful here, I can drive down to the store and grab one instead….
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
you can hear some dude heckling frenchy in the background
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
Josh Anderson has 10 stolen bases. The entire Braves roster has the same. Sorry, I just couldn’t resist.
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
Golden Boy does it again!
Boo
May 28th, 2009
1:09 am
Moon pie and Royal Crown cola for me please.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:10 am
Rob in Mobile-
Cheerwine? Now, I am a big fan of anything cherry but that jusst sounds…wrong.
bravesgirlnc
May 28th, 2009
1:10 am
God he is pitiful. Just pitiful
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:10 am
TnBrian
Dip? as in tobacco? That’s funny! LOL!
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:10 am
cabravesfan
My opinion might be slightly skewed since I don’t like desserts very much, but Moon Pies are disgusting. They’re mushy, marshmellowy, chocolate things. Bleh…
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:10 am
Well thats the Ballgame, Kamakaze Once again deserved a better fate for giving a chance for his team 2 win…
I said it before that Plain and Simple this is a display of Uninspired baseball tonight…
I know this game isn’t over but they seem like they are just trying to get to the next off day. I don’t boo when I go to games but I Would if I was at the game tonight. It’s one thing to get shut down by great pitching but it’s another to don’t care about getting Punk’d by the Jubroni teams of the league
Nuff Said!
Boo
May 28th, 2009
1:11 am
I’m going to bed. Way to blow that three game sweep momentum against the Blue Jays in record time.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:11 am
Sigh, I think it’s time to concede that this team is what it is. At best a third place team in the division.
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:11 am
I suggest that we ignore the Braves and use this blog to discuss Moon Pies. Much more healthy.
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
1:11 am
Thanks Coach I already said 10 but the good Doc said 9.
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
looks like there are some strong feelings on the moon pie issue
but like I said, marshmellowy, chocolatey goodness…yum!
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
SWEEP, SWEEP, SWEEP !!!
O wait, those aren’t the Blue Jays?
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
It’s just funny we swept the Jays and we got swept by the Giants.
And Mauer gets more Pub. than Mac.
Good Night Folks. I’ll try and be here “tonight” but I have prior things to attend to.
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
Necromancer, I worked at a rec. park for four years and had to clean bathrooms after a night of drunks would stink the place up like you wouldn’t believe. There’s no doubt that the woman are way worse then men! I puked more than oonce doing that filthy job.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
Nicky Sanders
Jalapeno moon pies?
That’s an interesting flavor.
Gives me a stomach ache just thinking about it…
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
Moon pie and Crown Royal. That’s the only way to watch these games.
RC
May 28th, 2009
1:12 am
Do we get bonus points for “conceding”? Geez people, it’s ok to be pissed that the team is playing poorly, but if you actually have given up as much as you claim, why are you still blogging about it at 1:15 am?
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
1:13 am
McCann is the sheeeooott
Trey06
May 28th, 2009
1:13 am
We’re going to lose 7 in a row.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 28th, 2009
1:13 am
An RC cola and a moon pie, southern comfort!
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
How adequate it was for chipper to give up on some of his sallary in order to “free some money and sign players to help us win”……………wonder if it has anything to do with him taking days of as he pleases. I mean……..someone in the stands sneezes and chipper takes himself out of the lineup……….who the hell is the manager? This team is a joke………….anarchy all around.
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
I said goodnight. But if that was Chipper he’d have given that ab up…sorry but I’ve seen it many times….okay gotta go bye.
It's moors you jerk
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
Moon pie and Crown Royal.
It’s moon pie and RC “Royal Crown” cola!
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
WOW, B-Macc Showed more heart tonight than the whole AWFense
Nuff Respect to B-Macc!
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
Brian McCann should be given a raise for that at bat. That’s just a great hitter with a great at bat. Wonderful. McFann can atleast be happy with the double. No RBI, but a great AB.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
1:14 am
cabravesfan, Cheerwine is actually pretty good. It’s just a “wild cherry” flavored soda, made with real cane sugar (in the glass bottle version) instead of corn syrup. I had the same reaction as you until I tried it. It’s been around for over 90 years, so they must be doing something right…..
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:15 am
Thanks Schafer, you just put the bow on the present nobody wanted.
High School Wrestling Coach
May 28th, 2009
1:15 am
Even after a loss, the boys need to have a good shower. Get really clean. Use lots of soap. C’mon boys, am I gonna haveta check if your clean?
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:15 am
Roman Gal
You sound just like my other half…
I think she’s a communist for not liking moon pies!
Louisville brave
May 28th, 2009
1:15 am
Good night folks
Trey06
May 28th, 2009
1:15 am
I’ve been watching AZ play all season… There is NO WAY that we can beat them playing like this. They actually have an offense unlike SF.
Bobby's Cox
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
We just swept by the Giants.
Ouch.
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
Way to show ‘em how to have an at bat, Heap. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s gonna filter down to anybody….yep. Schafer pops out on the first pitch. McCann’s gotta be thinking, “I busted my butt to get on base for that????”
Orkin
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
The hammer comes down on a bunch of insects.
SQUISH!
cabravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
Rob-
I think I’ll take your word for it
Alright, I gotta get some sleep. Night All! (and thanks for the info on the moon pies!)
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
How bout Jeff Francoeur for a box of moon pies?
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
That’s It!!! F… TP, F… Bobby C…And F..k, Frank Wren…No wonder why everyone stays away from the Ted the way this team plays with everyone’s emotions
Fcking Embarassing!!!
Coach (Moon Pie, anyone?)
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
We like it here, we love here, we finally found a home. A what? A home a home away from home. The Dave O’Brien blog.
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
I’ve decided nobody on the braves wants to win accept mccann,Prado,and yunel
Nicky Sanders
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
Sigh, I think it’s time to concede that this team is what it is. At best a third place team in the division.
Really..damn, how many times you gonna tell us? I think we got it the first 100 times!
King of the Pig People!
bravos2249
May 28th, 2009
1:16 am
If you have told me Braves would K 7 times….and 4 were by Chipper and not Schafer or Frenchy…I’d A) slap you B) slap you again c) trow something at you and D) have to take you to the emergency room.
a643dp
May 28th, 2009
1:17 am
Its sad that a player is happy when he makes and out that isnt a strike out sad.
Longview
May 28th, 2009
1:17 am
Giants are better than the Braves.
They have the same record, but they’re moving in opposite directions.
oldschool
May 28th, 2009
1:17 am
Except sorry
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:17 am
If You Guys Are Tired of this Pathetic display of an MLB team especially, Give Me A Hell Yeah!!!
Excluding the Starting pitching this Team Flat Out SUCKS!!!
Poorjeff
May 28th, 2009
1:18 am
I’ll take BQ and Dixie cola, you can have the moon pie and RC.
What a joke management has put on the field. Happy days are hear again 1970’s.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:18 am
TnBrian
Fa sho, dude!
I was looking for Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs to pop up with a camera crew!
kirkinga
May 28th, 2009
1:18 am
I think a couple of moon pies sound about perfect now.
Niles
May 28th, 2009
1:19 am
Why not have somebody with a .410 gauge shotgun in the stadium after the game to take care of that seagull problem? Seriously.
R.V.
May 28th, 2009
1:19 am
Guys we have to consider the circadian Rhythem. The Body clock of the players. They are a good team and I see alot of you criticizing about our play. Remember we swept the first place Bluejays. The reason our offense was bad this series is because we were playing at 10pm-1 am local time. The players felt sleepy, their body was asleep. If these games were in the east then we would have won 2 out of 3. We were just unlucky because we were playing these games when our players are normally asleep. Imagine someone waking you up at midnight and asking you to do your duty. I bet you wouldnt be as efficent or as good at midnight as you would be during your normal circadian wake cycle.
So guys lets relax. I know we got swept but its not due to the lack of talent but due to the circadian rhythem.
Fluffy McNutter
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
Josh Anderson is the savior!! Man, just think of how much better we’d be if we had Josh Anderson. My gosh, that dude is AWESOME! (Obviously I’m just kidding.)
Rob in Mobile
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
You know things are bad when Moon Pies, RC, and Cheerwine are more popular things to discuss than Los Bravos. But hey, you gotta like the little things in life. And it’s better than discussing this train wreck of a game! Nite, all!
Westcoaster
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
No moon pies.
I prefer a box of milkduds and a large black coffee.
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
We should ask DOB what flavors the Moon Pie team are thinking of adding.
Nicky Sanders
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
If You Guys Are Tired of this Pathetic display of an MLB team especially, Give Me A Hell Yeah!!!
How about y’all just all leave?
Pig People want to take over!
Trey06
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
I betcha the Dbacks fans will show up with brooms on the first game of the series tomorrow.
Bravesfan
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
I’m seriously considering skipping the next game. Watching Lowe give his all with no run support just might be too much for me right now.
Mitchell
May 28th, 2009
1:20 am
I can’t beli