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MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:09 pm
This stat is so garbage: “18-12 when Lowe, Vazquez and Jurrjens start. 5-11 when they don’t. It ain’t just the offense.”
This stat points to the fact that IT IS THE OFFENSE.
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
12:11 pm
Lets face reality that the Braves are in trouble AGAIN! Chipper will be DL’d, no way he continues to play through a painful toe injury. He can’t swing RH and his fielding will be limited. Escobar’s injury is a shot to the gut, the dude is an elite player. Trouble is a bruin folks! Gotta get these guys healthy or we will be sellers come July. Next year looks as good as any year I can ever remember as a Braves fan. Looks great, but ‘09 more than likely is another disappointing season. Sorry, but that’s reality.
bravesgirlnc
May 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
Now that you guys are done talking about Moon Pies…how about Luke Scott with Baltimore?
J williams
May 28th, 2009
12:14 pm
The organization miscalculated by keeping Schafer as the starter with no veteran backup present. I find it hard to believe that baseball people with experience of the Brave’s front office & manager, would base this decision solely on a good spring training.
Norton’s roster spot could probably be better used. He hasn’t started or played any significant time this season. It’s been all pinch hitting. He did great pinch hitting last season, but the pressure was off by then, and he was able to play relaxed.
If KK has another stellar outing after 5 days rest, then the Braves should consider trying to get him those 5 days off between starts as much as possible. I wasn’t able to get the game on TV last night, but it sounded really bad on the radio.
I really don’t understand the configuration of the outfield going into this season:
In order for things to work out, Frenchy had to make a gigantic turn around from last season.
Schafer would have to be a rookie of the year candidate, even though he’d never played above AA level, and missed 50 games of that last season.
And finally, that Diaz would rebound from his injury, and Anderson would perform as well as he did the previous year, even though he’s moving to the National League, and to a new team, neither of which he had ever done before. The leagues play the game differently.
This was a lot of “what if’s” to go into a season with. You would have had to come up with snake eyes for this gamble to be successful.
Rock On....(the denizen formerly known as Dadgum)
May 28th, 2009
12:14 pm
Original Jon….tell me you were kidding about Shaefer not being able to be replaced in CF! Seriously dude, think about that statement. The kid is barely removed from AA and I am not so sure he shouldn’t be back there. Cox’s never ending stubborness will allow Shaefer to stay there but I would have sent Shaefer back down a long long time ago. Defense aside and he is average quite honestly he is really hurting Atlanta along with Francouer.
With Chipper always hurting he isn’t helping matters either. This team needs major help. Not sure it will come this year.
Anders is 100% correct. The Braves must do something way before July. That Boston, NY, Boston, Philly stretch in June may just be the turning point one way or the other. Hate to see Atlanta stand pat going into that stretch of games.
hop
May 28th, 2009
12:14 pm
the braves front office continue to make huge mistakes as we speak,not to mention the mistakes with previous trades where very good young talented plaeyrs are now making texas a strong contender.
the current braves owners need to get the message with very poor attendance this year, the fans have had enough with all of the terrible decisions made by frank wren and john s the last few years.
this denver group that ownes the braves will be putting the for sale sign on this team if the fans stay away and i hope they do.
this mangement team did well when they had ted’s money,but now that they are working with a much lower model, the results are different.
maybe, we need to fire the front office and bring in the guys who are winners with low budgeted teams,i.e. tampa bay and florida marlins.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
Luke Scott has been on and off the DL as well, not reliable plus he is changing leagues and has limited range. nice idea though!
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
This stat is so garbage: “18-12 when Lowe, Vazquez and Jurrjens start. 5-11 when they don’t. It ain’t just the offense.” This stat points to the fact that IT IS THE OFFENSE. (MFIN04)
Wouldn’t expect anything less out of MFin04 than a very uneducated, unintelligent response. When they pitch good, they win 60% of the games. When their pitching stinks, they win 31% of the games. It ain’t just the offense. No hitter you bring in here is gonna make this team score the 6 runs a game you need to score when the fourths and fifths start.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
“Is KJ a better option than Infante?”
Doc, yes. Not close. Infante is a .264/.308/.392 career hitter. KJ is at .270/.352/.438. You want to play the clearly inferior player because the better player may go into a slump? That’s a ridiculous way to look at the game.
The only way you should bench an superior player is if he needs rest or he’s injured or you want him to get some rest. You play the player with better skills unless you have a good reason not to.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
Enter your comments here
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
12:19 pm
I can’t understand why Barton hasn’t been brought up from AAA yet. Once Yunel and or is DL’d, he’s got to be with the big club to spell that young man in center. He shoulda been brought up by now though. Frenchy’s as good as gone as soon as Wren finds a trading partner. Look for Edmonds or L.Gonzalez a Brave here soon. Won’t get this team over the rocky edge they’re on but one of them will give someone a break once in awhile.
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
12:19 pm
I meant Yunel and or CHIPPER is DL’d.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:20 pm
Doc, KJ is clearly better than Infante. Compare KJ’s career numbers to Infante’s. It’s not close.
You want to play the inferior player because the better play may slump?
The only reason a superior player should be benched in favor of an inferior one is if the superior player needs rest, is injured or you want him to get some rest.
Billy Walsh
May 28th, 2009
12:21 pm
Andruw Jones wouldn’t listen to anyone in Atlanta or in LA. Diaz is probably one of the hottest hitters in the braves lineup right now. KJ is streaky. Schafer needs a full season at AAA. Frenchy needs a change of scenery. What does that have to do with TP?
Jimmy
May 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
This reminds me of the blasphemy of trading a popular right fielder – Dale Murphy. That was in 1990. What happened next?
Bt the way there are more options than trading for a right fielder…
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
Check Barton’s AAA stats and you will immediately understand why he hasn’t been brought up.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
LOL @ Ellsbury for Francoeur. One of the best yet.
TP isn’t a psychologist, he can’t fix Jeff’s head.
"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami
May 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
Lew, my bad. But does that really matter? If anything, back-up catchers are generally more knowledgeable about the game than other players.
I imagine Joe was the Ryan Langerhans of his time.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
Willy Wally – you keep throwing these stats out there…but have you looked at the run support for the 4th and 5th starters? What are the reasons the 4th and 5th starters aren’t winning?
Ok let’s have an intelligent dialogue?
Perhaps they aren’t getting the run support that Lowe and Vazquez have been getting? Jair is winning games because he is pitching like a Cy Young candidate.
Now to the 4th and 5th starters. They aren’t going deep into games, so the middle relief is coming in too early and giving up runs. If we had a good group of middle relievers we would win more games with the 4th and 5th starters. But the offense also isn’t giving the 4th and 5th starters as much run support.
Obviously there is not one cause to this. But a better offense and middle relief would lead to more wins for Kawakami and others.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
Shaun- you are smoking if you think KJ is better than Omar. The name of the game is getting on base and preventing runs from scoring. Omar get on base, steals bases and has a good batting average, plus he is a lot better defensively.
I love KJ’s bat and hustle but,he should be in the OF pure and simple.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:27 pm
Here’s an update for all those who keep on insisting the Mets have no pitching: Santana 7-2, Hernandez 4-1, Pelfrey 4-1, Maine 4-3.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:28 pm
Brooklyn Braves Brawler, you’re kidding right? KJ’s on-base is almost 50 points higher than Infante’s. Infante’s slugging is only about 50 points better than KJ’s on-base.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:30 pm
Wow. I’m glad some of you folks are far away from running a major league team. Some of you who think Omar Infante should be in there everyday over Kelly Johnson. Wow. That’s all I can say.
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
12:30 pm
They are 4th and 5th starters for a reason. You shouldn’t expect to play .500 baseball when they’re on the hill. If you do, you’re delusional.
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
12:30 pm
Mets Troll, and yet, they’re only 2 1/2 games up on the Braves. Go figure….
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:31 pm
I suppose there are some GMs and managers who must be smoking too because no GM or manager would take Infante over KJ.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:32 pm
doesn’t spring training seem so long ago??
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
12:34 pm
Omar Infante isn’t better defensively than Kelly Johnson. They’re about equal. And if Kelly could quit making errors on routine plays and bone-headed plays in general, he’d be much better than Infante. Kelly makes a handful of nice plays. It’s the easy ones that eat him up for some reason.
MK
May 28th, 2009
12:35 pm
Why are we not just sending Jeff down and stick Matt out there? Do we have to give up on Jeff this year? Why can’t he play a year in Triple A? As for Jordan, anyone would be an improvement over a 205 batting average and all those non contact situations with RISP! Why won’t Cox just make the call? Are we waiting to get buried in the East?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
12:37 pm
When KJ is hot he is one of the best hitters on the team, he goes the other way and drives the ball to the gaps. Teh problem with Kelly is that he is impatient and inconsistent. These aren’t the worst qualities in the world, but for this Brave’s team they are daggers.
I guess I shold have been clear in that “Omar is better and more valuable to this team, than Kelly is.”
Kelly would be a nice cog in the whell of a contender but we need to do so much more and that is not his forte’.
Omar is more valuable player to the Braves than KJ
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
12:39 pm
MFin04:
Kawakami: 5.44 runs allowed per 9 innings
JoJo: 7.96 runs allowed per 9 innings
Medlen: 9.76 runs allowed per 9 innings
Combined: 6.62 runs allowed per 9 innings by Kawakami, Medlen, JoJo
Plus, as you mentioned they don’t pitch deep enough into games, and expose the middle relief.
No Braves team since 1897 has scored the 6.62 runs per 9 innings it takes to win when our fourths and fifths start.
The 2003 Braves are the only team since 1897 to score more than the 5.44 runs per 9 innings Kawakami is allowing.
The offense stinks, but relative to average, the offense is only as bad as Kawakami, and is actually better than Medlen and JoJo.
There can be no reasonable expectation of offensive production that would allow the Braves to break even when those scrubs pitch
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:39 pm
bravos1982….Just wait until July.
#1 METS TROLL (And Impotent)
May 28th, 2009
12:40 pm
Someone, please look at me!!
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
12:40 pm
On Jim Edmonds,
I was all for bringing him in rather than Garret, but as a LH Bench Bat. Last year his defense was barely passable in Wrigley Field. He would be completely incapable of patrolling CF at the Ted. He may give us more production than Schafer at the plate, but he’d turn around and give all of that plus some back in the field.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
12:41 pm
KJ is not the root of all our problems, Frenchy blows, and Jordan is young and overwhelmed. To be honest the composition of this team is flawed offesively.
Omar and Martin are the best spark plug guys we have on a team that is boring and painfully inefficient.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:42 pm
HA HA HA……that’s so cute!!!
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:44 pm
With all the drama and depression here on the blog I want all of you to know I’m here for you.
McFann :Ô:
May 28th, 2009
12:45 pm
I get a load outta people complaining about KK’s pitching. Sure, he’s no JJ, but here are the ER given up in each start:
3 ER (6.0 IP), 4 ER (6.0 IP), 2 ER (5.0 IP), 8 ER (4.2 IP), 2 ER (5.0 IP), 2 ER (6.0 IP), 3 ER (5.0 IP), 0 ER (8.0 IP), 3 ER (5.2 IP).
His two main problems are that he doesn’t go very deep into games, and he gets NO freaking run support.
McFann :Ô:
May 28th, 2009
12:46 pm
#1 Mets Troll …I want all of you to know I’m here for you.
Oh…oh good…now I cann sleep nights!
Lunatic Fringe
May 28th, 2009
12:49 pm
#1 Troll—You are here for us now, but come Aug/Sept you will be just a faded memory
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
12:50 pm
Brooklyn Braves Brawler,
To say that the composition of this team is flawwed offensively is an understatement. All of our outfielders are out making machines except Matt Diaz, who isn’t good enough to play regularly against RH pitching. The bottom half of our lineup is where runs go to die. It really is pretty bad. The good news is it just isn’t that hard to find corner outfielders.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
12:51 pm
You can throw out Jo-Jo that experiment is done. Too early to tell on Medlen, but if he’d gotten out of one jam his stats would look fine. And Kawakami has pitched well enough to win the majority of the time. Not worried about a 5th starter since we have Morton, Hanson, Medlen, and Glavine.
If you can, look out how much run support all the Braves starters get. I can’t find that stat anywhere.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:51 pm
Lunatic Fringe…..You mean like the braves are in June/July?
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
12:53 pm
Mcfann…..you see, it’s working for you already.
"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami
May 28th, 2009
12:54 pm
Willy Wally…you aren’t making much sense…what is Lowe, Vazquez and JJ’s runs allowed/nine innings? And how would they match up…?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
12:54 pm
PWHJort- I agree with you, I believe Kelly would actually help OF production if he were in LF or RF. I think he is better than Frenchy offensively and could be serviceable in the OF. I’d take Lugo at 2B for Frenchy in a heartbeat.
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
12:55 pm
Doc, no hard feelings whatsoever, man. It’s just a blog, after all. I shouldn’t have said it in the first place. Saying something like that is different from calling someone out for saying something false/unsupported by evidence and claiming it as a dogmatic fact.
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
12:56 pm
Brooklyn Braves Brawler, not sure what you mean by impatient. I’m pretty sure KJ has one of the better walk rates on the team the past few years. Inconsistent? I’m still not convinced he’s more inconsistent that other good players. Looking over his game logs from last season, there aren’t many stretches where he failed to hit.
Lunatic Fringe
May 28th, 2009
12:56 pm
#1 Troll—unfortunatley for both of us, the past few years have shown that to be the case for the Braves and Mets. I am hoping for a little shakeup, like bringing Blanco up for Norton, getting Glavine back. etc. instead of selling the future out for this year. Late June and July will be a better buyers market, and hopefully we still be shopping.
Jeff R
May 28th, 2009
12:56 pm
A power bat is important, no doubt. But take a close look at the #4 and #5 starter slots. Kawakami’s performance against Toronto might well have been an exception. Medlen is green, and likely heading back to Gwinnett when Glavine re-emerges. Glavine is no sure bet.
So, the Bravos have two challenges: buck up the offense and shore up the back end of the rotation.
Jeff R
May 28th, 2009
12:58 pm
Hmmm… as I recall, Kelly Johnson’s production picked up in the second half of last season. He’s better in the 6th slot in the batting order than the first. His glove is adequate.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
12:58 pm
makes me look like an old, fat, Vampire. Lew
Lew, you’re a hoot. I nearly spewed my drink when I read that. I’m glad you’re alright, though!
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
1:00 pm
Willy Wally…you aren’t making much sense…what is Lowe, Vazquez and JJ’s runs allowed/nine innings? And how would they match up…? (SOME ANONYMOUS DWEEB TOO SHY TO ASSUME AN IDENTITY)
What doesn’t make sense? When they pitch good, they’re winning. When they pitch like garbage, allowing 5.44 runs per 9 innings, 6.6 runs per 9 innings, there ain’t a chance in hell that any offense has of winning. You can’t just continue to give away wins at the back end of the rotation.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:00 pm
Myth is officially debunked. Check this out:
Kawakami is getting 2.62 runs per game.
Jurrjens 4.19
Lowe 5.5
Vazquez 5.89
#1 METS TROLL's DADDY (Fathered the most insignificant human being on earth)
May 28th, 2009
1:02 pm
Forgive him, he is doing what he does best. Show up after a Braves loss and a Mets win, for he has nothing else to do with his spare time, we don’t let him out of the basement much. Of course he’ll disappear just like his “beloved Mets” come September. It makes me feel better to come in and insult and provoke fans of a team which is clearly not going anywhere this year. He dares NOT show up at a Phillies blog.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
1:02 pm
Lunatic Fringe……it’s a long season with lots of ups and downs. I think the Mets will be in it til the end but as for your braves, I think there needs to a total revamp of the outfield positions. You’re not getting any production from it or 1st base. You can’t win that way.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:03 pm
Lets use McFann’s #’s (thanks) Kawakami could be 8-1 with Vazquez or Lowe’s run support if the middle relief was brilliant
3 ER (6.0 IP),
4 ER (6.0 IP),
2 ER (5.0 IP),
8 ER (4.2 IP),
2 ER (5.0 IP),
2 ER (6.0 IP),
3 ER (5.0 IP),
0 ER (8.0 IP),
3 ER (5.2 IP).
JJ
May 28th, 2009
1:03 pm
Since we’re talking stats…..How about this one: The Braves are 20-5 when scoring 4 runs or more. They are now 3-18 when scoring less than 4 runs.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
1:04 pm
Funny you mentioned that, I just left a Phillies blog. Wanna go there with me and chat?
learner
May 28th, 2009
1:04 pm
Mets Troll,
We have a deal. You help us through June, and we will be there for you in September
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
1:05 pm
XM radio is reporting that the Braves are very close to signing Jim Edmonds on a 1 year, $600,000 contract. Said this signing is only to spare Jordan Schafer at times.
Supes
May 28th, 2009
1:06 pm
What’s with the strange game start time agains Arizona tonight? 7:35pm local time (they are 2 hrs ahead, correct). The strange thing is, it’s a thursday night game, figured it be around 7:10 local start time?
I fully expect Chipper and Yunel to both go on the DL today. Who will be brought up? Brandon Jones and what other infielder from AAA could be bring up?
flange1
May 28th, 2009
1:06 pm
Shaun,
It is a loss cause to try to tell Doc anything good about KJ. Doc doesn’t like him and thinks Infante is better no matter what the scouts and stats suggest.
If FJ were to make 0 errors and hit .400 with 50 home runs for the rest of the season, Doc will still be calling for Infante.
It is what it is!
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:06 pm
Man, I was hoping for some good news today when I signed on!
Ratz! Foiled again!
bravos1982
May 28th, 2009
1:06 pm
PWHjort, shutup! You think you know it all, when in reality you live in your own fantasy world.
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
1:07 pm
learner……you have a deal.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:08 pm
I wouldn’t join it now on sheer principle RHR
Me neither. I joined the Joe and Boog page, but I won’t join the other one for the same reason.
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
1:09 pm
flange1, speaking of that, Marteen really showed off his defensive prowess last night, huh?
#1 METS TROLL's Daddy (ashamed to admit it in public)
May 28th, 2009
1:10 pm
Yeah, it’s true. You are somewhat becoming their biatch at the Phillies blogs, since your Mets are so used to bending over for them each september when the Fighting Phillies win another NL East!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
May 28th, 2009
1:11 pm
MFin04- I agree, KK keeps you in games and pitches pretty well overall, and give you quality starts. He has no run support, whatsoever
Supes
May 28th, 2009
1:11 pm
DOB,
if Chipper and Yunel officialy have to go to the DL, who would the Braves be bringing up from AAA?
Any guesses?
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
1:12 pm
flange1, exactly. If Infante is better, why has KJ been a regular for most of his career while Infante has been a bench player for the majority of his? I suppose Detroit and Atlanta’s GMs and managers are just not as smart as some who post here.
flange1
May 28th, 2009
1:13 pm
Steve,
I really like Prado, but he is not the greatest defensive player in the world. It seems to me he gets himself too excited and then screws up. Mainly on defense and on the bases.
Hopefully, he can spend more time on the bench because Chipper is better, Yunel is back on the field, and KJ gets more consistent.
Yikes! I will get yelled at for that one!
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:13 pm
Steve, so true on Prado and defense…YIKES! No wonder Wren and probably Bobby thought a million different times about a possible Ludwick/KJ trade in the offseason and wouldn’t bite. I like Prado, but I think we’re getting a little taste of what kinda hitter he truly is and his D is very suspect at times. Like him, but he does have flaws, pretty big ones to.
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
1:13 pm
Cut Norton, sign Edmonds, trade Frenchy for Andruw, trade for a big arm, play KJ everyday
#1 METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
1:14 pm
At lease the Mets only have to bend over in September. Unlike the braves, as you can see, do it all season long.
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
1:15 pm
Supes, I don’t even want to think about that! If I had to guess, probably Van Pope as a backup 3B. Gwinnett only has 2B (Conrad/Holt) after that. Yikes.
Would they call up Brandon Hicks from AA? Hicks is what he is…but those guys from AAA are not really making me all warm inside…
Long Haul
May 28th, 2009
1:15 pm
I’d rather see no trade at all than to give the house away for a player we get to use for 3 months and then he walks! We did that with Tex. Unless our pitching and hitting make a drastic turn around it realistically looks to me like we’re more than one player away anyway.
nique
May 28th, 2009
1:17 pm
DOB, great explanation on financial ramifications of bringing up Medlen vs. Hanson.
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
1:17 pm
flange, I am a huge Marteen Prado fan IF he is a bench bat/supersub. He’s one of the best around in that role. Hits lefties really well, plays a nice 3B, can fake his way through 2B. As an everyday starter, he is, well, just another guy. Not maximizing his value by making him start everyday as opposed to KJ, the better player. Ditto Infante.
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
1:19 pm
Go ahead MFin04. Keep believing that you’ve got a chance at the postseason trotting out a guy allowing 5.44 runs per 9 innings 30 times this season. See where that gets you.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:19 pm
Prado has made some brilliant plays in the field this year as well. So maybe they all balance out. Chipper can’t even get to half the balls hit to him anymore. And Chipper has had a horrible year defensively giving away runs right and left.
I like the idea of Edmonds. Veteran CF who has played there for forever. He could help Schafer out a lot. TP isn’t doing his job, so between Chipper and Edmonds, Schafer should become a pretty good hitter and defensively a very good player with those two giving advice.
"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami
May 28th, 2009
1:20 pm
Willy Wally…all I’m implying is that you aren’t painting the entire picture. Thanks to MFin04 we get a better idea of the imbalance between the run support of the rotation.
Clearly starters #4 & #5 have not been as consistently strong as starts #1, 2 and 3. But, um, that is sort of the point isnt it? Certainly we dont expect any pitchers to win everytime (And by comparing runs/9inn allowed and receieved that is sort of what you are asking for)?
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
1:20 pm
flange–accidentally on purpose. Bobby is too senile/stupid/Equine to make such a move on his on volition.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:22 pm
Prado has made some brilliant plays in the field this year as well
…at third base. Man, was last night atrocious. He got a double play when he didn’t need one, but not when he needed it!!
Alvino
May 28th, 2009
1:24 pm
Bad news bears meet 1927 Yankees. Wouldn’t it be nice to go back before spring training and leave the Jap in Japan, leave Garett Anderson wondering around trying to figure out where he was, don’t even think about tradeing Josh Anderson and, oh yes, tell Jorden Shaffer he had another year in AAA. OH WELL, it’s always nice to dream.
# METS TROLL (And Proud Of It)
May 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
Denizens, I am a tool with no life. If the Mets were a better team I would not be here. However, as it stands we have the payroll of a juggernaut, but our chances of winning a world series title are realistically as good as the Pirates.
Like a four year old bugging his sister in the back seat of the car on a long road trip, I am attention starved and jealous, and I want any response whatsoever from anyone who will give it. The insults hurt, but they are better still than the alternative: crushing, absolute loneliness. This reality, coupled with a confusing, ambiguous sexuality, plus the acceptance of the inevitable late-season collapse of the Mets, sees me coming to you a broken, vulnerable, and pathetic person.
Don’t cry for me, Denizens. I’m already dead.
Willy Wally
May 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
JoJo Reyes has a lower WHIP than Kawakami. But that poor Kawakami just doesn’t get any run support. Spare me the pity party.
AndyC
May 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
If you take out KK’s one bad start where he gave up 8 runs, his ERA would be more than a full run lower, 3.67. Pretty respectable and better than a 3-5 record. Supports the idea that it’s the run support that’s the problem more so than the pitching, at least in his case.
CB
May 28th, 2009
1:25 pm
We are very weak position player wise at Gwinnett but stronger lower levels. We cannot depend on farm system except for pitching for at least one season.
Casey
May 28th, 2009
1:26 pm
Very nice explanation on the Medlen vs. Hanson decision!
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:26 pm
Kawakami is a good/great 4th/5th starter. That’s what he is. If he was on a team that played halfway good defense for him and gave him some run support early in games he’d win a lot more games.
He’s only had one bad start in a new league, surrounded by a new culture. I like him. Only real thing he is lacking is a pitch that can get guys out. Seems a lot of the guys yesterday kept fouling pitches off and he couldn’t get them out to save his life.
In the Toronto game…he had a pitch that was breaking just below guys bats and he was getting strikeouts, not sure what happened to that pitch yesterday.
#1 METS TROLL's DADDY (unfortunately)
May 28th, 2009
1:26 pm
He was mostly ignored as a child, forgive his attention whoring ways!
6-4-3
May 28th, 2009
1:27 pm
Who gets dropped if we do sign Edmonds? Norton?
Not crazy about Edmonds, although it seems like a low risk move at this point. I do like him better than Luis Gonzalez though since Edmonds can play Center.
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
1:27 pm
If we sign Edmonds we had BETTER get rid of loaf to make room on the roster.
Steve from OH
May 28th, 2009
1:28 pm
Yeah, take out that start and KK is good…but you can’t. And his FIP is pretty close to his ERA right now, so it’s hard to pretend like he’s a 3.67 ERA pitcher. His ERA is pretty much the pitcher that he is. Plus, like WW said, his WHIP is kinda high, and that’s usually not a sign that he’s headed for a turnaround…
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:28 pm
Roman Gal….I must not have seen the bad Prado play last night. What happened? What inning?
I thought the double play with 2-outs was amazing. Had me lauging for 2 or 3 innings after that.
Supes
May 28th, 2009
1:29 pm
So basically, if Chipper & Yunel both have to go to the DL, with Infante already out…Greg Norton can’t play 3B (or can he?)…Braves are screwed. Mark DeRosa looks MUCH more of a necessity at this point. Indians are already out of it. What would it take?
Nick C.
May 28th, 2009
1:29 pm
This stat is so garbage: “18-12 when Lowe, Vazquez and Jurrjens start. 5-11 when they don’t. It ain’t just the offense.”
This stat points to the fact that IT IS THE OFFENSE.
I agree, and, I’ll take it a step further. We are 18-12 when JJ/Vaz/DLowe start, and 4-12 when they don’t. So what? No team has an ACE going every single night, especially at the bottom end of their rotation. This is EXACTLY what we’re going to get from KK, at least until he figures things out a little more at this level. By the time he does, he’s probably going to be gettting worn out, as he’ll be pitching in many more games this year than he ever has in his career. I understand Jo Jo has sucked, and Medlen hasn’t been fantastic in his 2 starts so far (though he looked EXCELLENT last night, minus the hiccup in the 2nd), but why do you people want to keep mentioning that we’ll be much better when Tommy Glavine returns.
Have you guys not seen Glavine pitch over the last few years? He’s a 4th or 5th type pitcher, who’ll have a little success on a team like Boston, or NY, that actually puts up a bunch of runs on a nightly basis. He’s definitely not a guy that’s going to shut teams down every time he steps on the mound, which is what you guys who are saying it’s not the offense, are saying we need if we want to contend.
That is what is so perplexing about this whole Glavine situation. We have an absolute MONSTER pitching prospect, blazing hitters away at the highest minor league level, his first one there, after blazing hitters away in A/AA last season, then MURDERING pretty good prospects in the AFL. Our team NEEDS a guy on the mound every night that has the stuff to pitch a quality start on a nightly basis. Why do we have to stick to the contract we gave Glavine prior to the season? It’s not our fault he got hurt. Send him to the pen. Call Tommy up. Otherwise our FO is saying we’ll get them next year.
ncscoots
May 28th, 2009
1:30 pm
Compiling a list of my favorites:
“don’t give away the farm for a rental”
Certainly not, keep all the prospects, every last blinkin’ one of them, until they’ve rotted in the minors because there is no place to play on the big club. Don’t even think of using them as currency now. That would be stupid.
“call up some minor leaguer; can’t do any worse”
Yes, “not any worse” is an excellent guideline for making a major roster change with 40-man implications. That idea about bettering the ballclub? Get that **** outta here. Just get the current underperformers gone, and bring up some new meat that bloggers can savage when they are “not any worse”. We’re running out of new harsh language for the ones who are here now, but, fresh meat? A whole new set of invective becomes available. That’s what we’re all about.
<”KJ is too streaky”
What-evuh. Today isn’t my turn.