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McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
10:15 am

Joe and Boog are waaaaay better than Joe and Chip.

LT- A Blogger

May 28th, 2009
10:17 am

With the rumor that Boston is interested in Franceour, has anyone read anything in relation to what they would offer for him? Just curious.

Think Chipper definitely needs to sit a few series to get healthy again.

Chris

May 28th, 2009
10:17 am

What’s it going to take for Cox to sit Schafer down for a few games. He either walks or strikes out. The only time that he gets a hit is if he gets a fastball down the middle, and sometimes he stares at those with the bat sitting on his shoulder. Cox didn’t have a problem sitting down Kelly Johnson for a few games to let him watch, what is the problem that he can’t let Schafer watch for a few games.

Joe Fan

May 28th, 2009
10:18 am

Is there any possibility that Barbaro Canizares is a serviceable outfielder? He certainly seems to have hit at all the stops in the minors and to hit and with power. I believe he currently is playing 1B for the G-Braves.

RHR

May 28th, 2009
10:21 am

Doc –

Can’t believe you’d include a dog like that in a bet!

I wouldn’t bet my dog that K’fer will strike out and that Jeff will get an out on 1 pitch tonight…and I KNOW they will. :lol:

DAP

May 28th, 2009
10:21 am

chris bobby doesnt have anyone else to play center for him, or else schafer might get a few days off.

former ajc subscriber

May 28th, 2009
10:21 am

Dear nerdy journalist,
No story out there b/c you are sure trying to create one. You want Frenchy to fail more than anything else in the world, just so you can have something to write about. After reading your hearsay/BS this morning about the Braves shopping Frenchy I am rescinding my subscription to the AJC. This is not news because you site a BLOGGER from Yahoo … not anybody in the Braves or Red Sox organization. As a team (I don’t know if you ever even played sports), how do you think this HEARSAY impacts the Braves? In no way does this help the Braves, it only hurts them as a team. Now they will have to answer questions about this distraction that you have highlighted. Thanks for hurting our team O’brien. Now, what about Frenchy. It this BS has hurt the team, it definately will hurt Frenchy. This probably will not enable him to go to bat comfortably for my Atlanta Braves. He is one of our own too. You referred to him as the SI cover boy … are you jealous? You jump at ANY oppurtunity to bring him down. I didn’t see anything in the paper about Frenchy the first month of the season, probably because he was doing so well. PATHETIC. Your tone and verb usage is constantly negative dealing with this kid. Do you personally not like him? Did he shoot your mother/dog? Again, are you jealous? Or are you worried that your business is going under and you are trying to generate some excitement about your crappy newspaper. Sorry the media, yourself included, built him up … sorry he hasn’t met YOUR expectations. Since YOU have built him up, now you have the right to tear him down? Give the kid some respect. He’s not out getting DUI’s or doing drugs … he’s a good person that is doing his best against professional pitching (I know your nerdy ass couldn’t do any better … assuming you know the rules of baseball). Lastly, I was reading on ESPN.com today about the Randy Johnson’s 299th win. The article included the fact that Frenchy had an outfield assist. That is a pretty big play in baseball, funny that you and the AJC failed to mention that. This stuck out to me because our local newspaper is tearing down one of our own, while the most popular sporting news company is writing something positive about Francouer. This is yet another reason I have no respect for you or the AJC.
-O’brien’s daddy

csg

May 28th, 2009
10:21 am

Barbaro apparently is so bad defensively at first that the org just doesnt want to give him a chance. Dude can hit though and I’d at least like to see what he can do in place of Norton right now

RHR

May 28th, 2009
10:24 am

PMC

May 28th, 2009
10:24 am

Well, I guess the Francouers won’t be getting the AJC home edition anymore.

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
10:24 am

pryguy,

Instead of degrading the team during their struggles, why not accept it for what it is and look forward to the triumps, as little as they may be to you.

Im taking it as it is………….thats the problem. What is cox doing about it? KJ keeps batting leadoff………..JF has not been benched yet…………Schafer has not been benched either. Braves players dont have the slightest idea of how to move players over (sac fly, bunt, ground out to 2b or 1b). They dont now how to drive in a run with a sac fly or a ground out. THERE IS NO INTENSITY NOR SPIRTon this team…………sure any team can lose, but not showing any signs you want to win is what makes it pathetic. Losing 3 in a row against SF????????? absurd………..not winning the series against rockies………absurd. So far they have nor being able to handle SF, Rockies, Pirates, astros and nats (I know they are 4-2 against them, but they lost the las series they played against them). So what are we talking about here??? Thats not a winning attitude. I know competition it tough, but thats not just a coincidence……….we are doing what we should………..as Rafiki said…………”TRY HARDER”

shelbydawkins

May 28th, 2009
10:29 am

I hate Toronto. They suck. I hope they lose the rest of their games this season.

David O'Brien

May 28th, 2009
10:30 am

Looks like my 8 a.m. flight’s gonna be on time (knock on wood).

By the way, who’d have thought fried rice could be so good for breakfast? Ate fried rice at this Asian place in the airport. It had pineapple, egg, carrots, peas…. Stuff was good, man. Line was too long at the bakery across the concourse, and now I’m glad it was.

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
10:30 am

JF is not going anywhere, since we are not getting what we need……….right now his value is so low that it would take lots of the minors wealth and redsox are very smart in that department. I think we are stuck with him and if we get to move him, get prepared, cause we are going to get thin in our farm system.

Frankie Knuckles

May 28th, 2009
10:31 am

Yea, no kidding.
Whats up Catie? Your man needs a change of scenery. Simple!

pryguy

May 28th, 2009
10:33 am

Intensity or spirit are pretty abstract characteristics to say a team lacks, no? Because they matched up against SF and flew cross country after an emotional gutsy sweep, doesn’t mean they don’t have a winning attitude. Do I agree something may be brewing to replace JF or Schafer? There may be, but Cox and company have been at this a lot longer than I certainly have and also possess greater insight into these sort of things than you or I do. Simply “trying harder” is a great concept as though these players seem to enjoy failure. People on here seem to be more knowledgable of the operations of a MLB team, yet no one on here has guided a team to 14 straight division titles, or sniffed coaching professional baseball. Yet the rants and demands of the fans on here would suggest otherwise.

David O'Brien

May 28th, 2009
10:34 am

Oh, and my daddy was never a subscriber to the AJC (10:21 a.m.)

By the way, Gordon Edes a “blogger” at Yahoo? Dude is one of the most respected baseball writers in the country. Worked at L.A. Times, the now-defunct The National, The Sun-Sentinel, and the past decade covered the Red Sox in Boston for the Boston Globe (you may have heard of it?)

Do I think Braves are shopping Francoeur? No, at least not actively. But I’m not sure, either. And I was asked by our online people if I wanted to write something on the Francoeur rumor. I said, no, because I hadn’t heard anything, but that I would write that others were reporting it.

Like I said last night, I had someone in the organization tell me they’d heard nothing of the Red Sox scouting him. Braves GM Frank Wren did not want to comment on it at all.

PN

May 28th, 2009
10:35 am

I feel like Terrence Moore needs to start his annual “Ken Griffey / Gary Sheffield / any AA player is needed on this Braves team ASAP”

Jeff321

May 28th, 2009
10:38 am

former ajc subscriber – Hopefully you’ll cancel your subscription to this blog as well. Btw, blaming DOB for something that has already been reported elsewhere (before Yahoo got around to it) is nothing but a crock of crap.

Going to cut the grass, will bback for any replies a little later.

Bobby Coxx

May 28th, 2009
10:39 am

You mean I can get rid of Francour and not have to write him into the lineup in RF just to sell tickets? Frank, if they offer ANYTHING more than an all you can eat lobster dinner please TAKE IT.

Bobby

PS: I am batting Lowe in the 7 hole tonight and telling Schaffer to bunt in every AB. At least the ball should be in play.

RHR

May 28th, 2009
10:39 am

DOB – did they team head out to Phoenix last night or this morning? That was the longest game ever, I know I wouldn’t want to hop an 8 a.m. flight after that.

PWHjort

May 28th, 2009
10:40 am

DOB didn’t confirm the report in his story, just acknowledged that the report exists. And Ken Rosenthal also published a similar report. So you’re kind of way off base there, former ajc subscriber. His job isn’t to help the team, it is to publish news about the team. And if multiple reputable sources come out with a report that our fan favorite, once top prospect, underachieving, starting right fielder is being scouted by other organizations and the Braves are considering moving him, don’t you think the fans should know about it? I don’t know, just kind of seems like a childish overreaction to nothing on your part.

ncscoots

May 28th, 2009
10:41 am

I feel like Terrence Moore needs to start his annual “Ken Griffey / Gary Sheffield / any AA player is needed on this Braves team ASAP”

You don’t need Terry Moore for that. Plenty of jerkish nutbag bloggers here who can, have, and will do that, all for free.

flange1

May 28th, 2009
10:43 am

Just read the night’s activity on the blog. Some of you folks are just plain ridiculous.

A question for the group, one of the in game bloggers keeps saying that XXX needs to be “called” out for his play. Who should call them out? What good is calling someone out do?

Next question, another in game blogger who just will not shut up keeps asking for Bobby Cox or someone to be “held accountable” for the team and the players.

What does that mean? Still not sure…

Now we have someone complaining about DOB because he wrote a blog and a story about potential deals including the possibility of trading Frenchy.I guess DOB did a bad thing by mentioning the rumors that have been floating around about Frenchy who has been stinking up RF for at least 2 years now.

Seems like no one is happy!

woogidy

May 28th, 2009
10:44 am

Terrence Moore no longer works for the AJC I believe.

PN

May 28th, 2009
10:44 am

Former AJC Subscriber: Get off of Francueor’s nuts, he is not a good offensive baseball player. He is a liability every time he comes up to the plate with a bat in his hands. If you listed every starting outfielder in the major leagues (so that’s what, like ~90 players?) would you honestly expect him to be anywhere above the lower 15% in terms of offensive performance? And we’re not talking about some isolate stretch of being cold for 2 months. We’re talking just a lack of ability to make adjustments on the fly. Now I’m not comparing him to Matt Diaz. Diaz has great numbers, but they’re also inflated b/c he only faces LHP’s, he’d probably be hitting in the .240s or so if he played every day, but at the same time, Diaz isn’t worth anything in a trade b/c he has no hype. Are you telling me that if a team was willing to give us something of value (and at this point, even if it is merely projected/potential value) that you would pass it up for Francoeur? I think he has proven that his not capable of making adjustments at the major league level. He is a defensive 4th OF’er at best and in all honesty should be sent back to AAA to work things out. And let’s not get it twisted, last year maybe you could say it was mental. At this point, it is a serious deficit in making necessary adjustments, adjustments that decent hitters are able to make to hit in the .280 range and get on-base about 35% of the time. I’m pretty sure Cincinatti demoted Austin Kearns to AAA eventually before trading him, despite the fact that he was hyped up (though not to the extent of Francoeur). Jeff Francoeur is hurting the Atlanta Braves as a starting outfielder, and at this point I would rather see us try out an unproven player (BJones?) than continue on with this train wreck. You cannot convince me that BJones would get on base at a lower clip than JF, therefore, I don’t see the harm in trying.

Lew

May 28th, 2009
10:46 am

Doc-That statement makes less sense than you usually do. If we trade Francoeur we are NOT going to have to trade minor league players to get someone to take him off our hands. We may not get much, but you don’t pay to give someone away.

toga party

May 28th, 2009
10:47 am

Lew, totally agree about the announcing situation. Anyone complaining about Joe and Boog should try listening to the other teams’ feeds for a few games. You’ll realize how good local broadcast Braves fans have it.

Most other broadcast teams so far this season can’t hold a candle, and some are down-right atrocious. Sitting through the Nats games with Dibble and Carpenter makes me want to pull a double Van Gogh.

Fred

May 28th, 2009
10:47 am

RHR, The team always flies out of a city on getaway day after the game is completed (even if it is a late game). DOB just isn’t able to take the Braves charter due to his writing responsibilities, etc.

Shaun

May 28th, 2009
10:48 am

Boog is about the best their is. He’s as good as any broadcaster around.

Willy Wally

May 28th, 2009
10:49 am

By the way, with all the comments on moon pies you’d think they were really good. Trust me, cabraves, they’re not. They’re super dry and so not worth the calories. I could name no less than 100 things I’d rather eat than a moon pie (RHR)

But when you wash a moon pie down with RC Cola, you’re in heaven

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
10:50 am

pryguy,

Being in the business for 50 years doesnt automatically mean that you are making the right decisions, does it?

Give me a single good reason of why hasnt Schafer bat leadoff for a week? could it be worse than KJ batting leadoff? hardly. Could it get worse for him? doubt it. Could it be more pressure applied to his head than he already has? Dont think so. So why not give it a shot?

It is clear that comparing KJ while hitting 1st and anywhere after the cleanup hitter is like comparing Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, so why keep batting him leadoff? Absolutely no sense, more because he is not being use there because he is the base stealer on the team.

You thing not benching JF is the right decision? could you please explain? there are 6 other OF on this team………at least one should be able to do a decent job out there.

Not giving a rookie a break all season (Schafer) is a good decision? doubt it………. Let him watch from the bench. relax and think about it.

What about moving players around every single game………..Players need to understand their roles on the team in order to play good baseball. Chipper is the only player that has not dance around like a mouse up and down the lineup, that is not good………….it is called instability, and that is not good. Im not against shuffling a piece here and there, but moving 5 players around the lineup game in game out? BAD VERY BAD.

And about the SPIRIT thing…………….hey……..you know they have 0 spirit the moment they are down 3 runs by the 5th and you can shut down your TV set………..they just wont find the way to comeback……….games just last 5 innings if we are losing……………but in the other hand………..it looks like they last like 15 innings when we are winning, cause we struggle so much to protect leads………..man……….how many games have we won by less than 3 runs that we have looked confident? Id say none. Players have in the back of their minds………….if its not a 20 run lead, we might end up with a big L tonight.

PWHjort

May 28th, 2009
10:51 am

Damn,
Blog ate my post responding to former ajc subscriber. Oh well. Other denziens covered it.

RHR

May 28th, 2009
10:52 am

I don’t think I’ve ever had a RC Cola, Willy. So … probably not! lol I tend to like sweet things with milk.

Thanks Fred. I figured as much but didn’t know for sure.

PWHjort

May 28th, 2009
10:53 am

The moon pie conversation was a good read too.

Willy Wally

May 28th, 2009
10:53 am

Why doesn’t Schafer bat leadoff for a week?!?!?!?!?!? UH, have you watched a darn game? Read any of his stats? Doc Holliday, Schafer’s lucky there are no other options. He still belongs in AA.

SoWeGa Fanatic

May 28th, 2009
10:54 am

Hey, it’s another day and another opportunity to start a win steak, Quitters.

wheelz007

May 28th, 2009
10:57 am

I agree with SoWeGa Fanatic.

Go Braves!!!

AndyC

May 28th, 2009
10:58 am

I agree with toga party and Lew on the announcing. I like Joe and Boog. They have good chemistry together and they keep it light and casual. If you listen to the FOX saturday game, everyone is so serious and formal. It’s just a game. The point is to have fun. Besides, long time Braves fans are seriously spoiled because we had one of the best broadcasting teams for years. I also don’t mind Chip but I prefer Joe and Boog.

"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami

May 28th, 2009
10:58 am

Moon Pies are delicious. Boog is a doofus. Joe Simpson is awful. A career .240 hitting catcher? And he talks like a World Series winning manager. I know there is an awful delay, but I always mute the TV and listen to Don and Jim…a really great crew, insightful and witty…kind of reminds me of anothe duo that used to rule the Atlanta airwaves…

Champ

May 28th, 2009
11:01 am

This is a late response to MichaelM’s 6:26 post…
Eventhough half of the posts on here are exaggerated or over the top, people feel this way b/c it feels like “deja vous all over again.”

5/28/06 3.5 GB
5/28/07 4.0 GB
5/28/08 2.5 GB
5/28/09 3.0 GB

It feels as though for the past few years at this time we are always saying “well at least we are only 2,3,4 GB” and we all know what happend each of the previous 3 seasons. Unfortunately the talent of each team seems to seperate from June on. The Braves seem to stay the same or get worse, and the Mets, Phillies seem to get better. I hope I’m wrong this year, but the Braves are wasting opportunities to build a little bit of a lead while the Mets and Phils are struggling.

Bobby Coxx

May 28th, 2009
11:01 am

Guys,
I have decided to post the lineup early. Here it is. Someone tell my wife to fly to Phoenix ASAP just in case this series goes bad. I may need to let off some steam…

Escobar – SS
Prado – 2B
Jones – 3B
McCann – C
Anderson – LF
Diaz – RF
Lowe – P
Francour – CF

CB

May 28th, 2009
11:02 am

Hey I’d rather read drivel about moonpies than read anything Jerry or Joebrave have to offer. lol

pryguy

May 28th, 2009
11:04 am

Being in the business and being successful for so long accounts for something in my book. Maybe Cox can do certain things differently as you hint at, but over the years he has gained my confidence, regardless of how the team is doing. Not saying I agree with all that he does, but I am confident in his managing.

Give me a single good reason of why hasnt Schafer bat leadoff for a week? He is batting about .200 and strikes out a pretty good amount. Good enough reason?

could it be worse than KJ batting leadoff? Probably. I agree I like KJ batting 6, but Escobar has been down so KJ moves up to leadoff where he has hit and has more experience than Schafer. Remember, you are only guaranteed to bat lead-off one time in a game my man.

Could it get worse for him? He’s hitting .200, so yeah it could get alot worse actually.

Could it be more pressure applied to his head than he already has? Dont think so. So why not give it a shot?

It is clear that comparing KJ while hitting 1st and anywhere after the cleanup hitter is like comparing Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, so why keep batting him leadoff? Absolutely no sense, more because he is not being use there because he is the base stealer on the team.

So who is the base stealer on the team? KJ or Schafer? KJ is Dr J and Mr H wherever he is hitting. Can’t we agree he is just a streaky hitter in general. Trying to put blame elsewhere rather than accept what KJ has shown in his career. Cox doesn’t hit for him, puts him in a line up to do the same thing, hit a baseball.

You thing not benching JF is the right decision? could you please explain? there are 6 other OF on this team………at least one should be able to do a decent job out there.

Why bench JF? If we are trying to move him, what will that do to his value? We need him to hit himself out of this, whatever direction we choose to take with him. Is there really a better option? You’ll suggest B Jones, but look at Schafer. Jones has been up with us and has done “ok”. If he had done anything more than ok, I think it would be more of a viable option, but he hasn’t. Norton? Diaz? Not everyday players. Infante injury is really rearing its ugly head right now IMO.

Not giving a rookie a break all season (Schafer) is a good decision? doubt it………. Let him watch from the bench. relax and think about it.

Agree Schafer should get a day off or two. But he is playing some stellar defense at times and it goes without saying pitching and defense play crucial role in winning baseball games. Centerfield is of utmost importance as well.

DAP

May 28th, 2009
11:04 am

SoWeGa Fanatic

haha, nice post…

Original Jon

May 28th, 2009
11:05 am

Chris, the reason Schafer cannot be sat is because we have no one to replace him in center that is playing any better. Who are they going to sit Schafer for??

Lew

May 28th, 2009
11:06 am

Slicker Balls-Uh Dude, Joe Simpson never caught a game in the majors. He was an outfielder.

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
11:08 am

Willy Wally,

I have watch 80% of the games………….and if Schafer belong to AA, so be it, sent him down as of yesterday. If he is in MLB, then explore him, explore what can he do leading off, you might get a pleasant surprise. You never know. I know the guy is lost, but when KJ bats leadoff, he is not doing any better than Schafer is at the 8th spot.

Shaun

May 28th, 2009
11:13 am

Regarding Kelly Johnson and being streaky, we know that over the course of a season, KJ is a fine player (.270/.352/.438). Last year his longest hitless streak was four games. So some of you want to bench a player with the abilities of KJ because he may be in a slump? The problem is, you never know when a player may come out of a slump; you just know his overall abilities. You have to play the players with the best abilities and KJ has the best abilities of any option and secondbase. You wouldn’t sit Albert Pujols if he goes three games without a hit (as he did once last season) because of his abilities. The same principle applies to KJ. You play the players with the best ability because there is always the risk of a player going hitless in a game or a stretch of games. All you have to go by is overall ability and not when a player is going to go into a slump.

(I know some of you will twist this, ignore my point and say I’m comparing KJ to Pujols. You folks are too dumb or lazy to get the main point anyway, so I’m going to post this in spite of what folks may twist this in to.)

RHR

May 28th, 2009
11:13 am

DOB – if you’re not on that plane yet, thought you might like to that whoever wrote the headline for this story with your name on it made a glaring error.

http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2009/05/28/bravesnotes0528.html

I hope that’s not how it appears in the print edition. Most people probably wouldn’t notice but I know I wouldn’t want a story with my name on it to have a players name spelled wrong, especially if I knew how to spell it, and you have it right throughout the story and always have it right on the blog so I’m certain someone else wrote that headline.

McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
11:14 am

Does anybody know–did Boog play any baseball in college or anything? I know he was never a pro, but just curious…

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
11:16 am

Shaun,

Is KJ a better option than Infante?

Original Jon

May 28th, 2009
11:19 am

Champ, a more accurate depiction of how we are doing at a certain point in the season is better measured by the number of games played, not by the date.

After 46 games, here is where we stood.
2006 – record was 23-23 (5 games back)
2007 – record was 27-19 (2.5 games back)
2008 – record was 25-21 (1.5 games back)
2009 – record is 23-23 (3 games back)

RHR

May 28th, 2009
11:19 am

I don’t know about the McFann but he must know somebody, somewhere, to make the jump from South Florida sports radio to MLB broadcaster.

McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
11:19 am

PS: That Zambrano thing was hilarious! That guy has some kinda of a temper! My word…that poor Gatorade dispenser…

No More Bobby

May 28th, 2009
11:20 am

Trying to stay positive with this team so here are my lyrics…

MIGHTY KC – FOUR SQUIRRELS

And by the grace of God go I
Into the great unknown
Things are gonna change in our favor

And if we gather, if we fall
Over the great unknown
Things are gonna change in our favor

MFin04

May 28th, 2009
11:21 am

Might be time to bring Blanco up, has had a pretty nice stretch in AAA. He’s batting .321 in his last 8 games at Gwinnett and has been a major contributor in their last two wins.

With Greg Norton being as bad as he is, and Schafer needed a day or two off, I think the Braves should give Gregor a shot. Worth a try. Not that Gregor is a better player than Schafer, but Schafer really needs to sit and watch a few games perhaps.

McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
11:22 am

RHR

Yeah, really. Plus, the other day he was talking about pitches that are hard to block, and he said a few other things that have led me to wonder if he was a catcher somewhere.

Hey, you’re on Facebook, you should ask him! :P

Braves20

May 28th, 2009
11:22 am

Some twenty years from now, some very bright GM whose team is in a stretch drive with the Braves is going to sign 65 year old Randy Jonson who will proceed to beat the Braves three times down the stretch. This old fart with the nearly six ERA owns us.

PWJjort – couldn’t agree more with your 10:11. Saw this Snider kid in spring here in Florida. They may change his first name to Duke after a season or two. What a sweet swing.

Doc Holiday

May 28th, 2009
11:27 am

Blanco last season had a .371 OBP when batting leadoff, that would be somewhere in between what Matt Diaz and Yunel have this season. Not that bad. Id say recall him right now, if you are going to shuffle thing up, shuffle them good.

Champ

May 28th, 2009
11:30 am

Original Jon, ok, basically the same thing. The point is still the same.

RHR

May 28th, 2009
11:31 am

lol McFann, I don’t think I joined the Joe and Boog facebook group. If I did I wouldn’t join it now on sheer principle, because they talk about it so dang much!

Jersey Gil

May 28th, 2009
11:31 am

The outfield problem of the Bravos can’t be fix, not this year, probably next year with the free agent . The situation now is imposible for the Braves to trade for some hot bat without give away a good A+ prospect. The only choice is give away Frenchy for some minor leaguer, bring up B Jones, platoon him with Norton…yes, Norton, he need some at bat, bring up Hanson, put KK in the pen, release Carlyle, the Rotation will be..Lowe,JJ,Vazquez,Hanson,Glavine…The kid in center field will be Ok if not this year probably Next year.
To those they want to bring up Gorky….he will Punch Out in the same rate of Jordan…right now he got 44so in 181 ab in AA in 45 games. leave him in the Minor for one more year. And pray that ours other Bats (Chipper,Mac,GA,Kotchman) wake up in July,Aug…so we can be in the playoff.

McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
11:34 am

RHR

Haha! Good thinking! They really need to lay off that…although when Bogg went on a rant about it last night was pretty funny.

coach joe

May 28th, 2009
11:34 am

Trade Frenchy for Smoltz..

PMC

May 28th, 2009
11:36 am

Francouer would be a perfect 4th outfielder in Boston. He’s got a cannon for an arm not too much ground to cover, and they aren’t at all worried about his performance at the plate, everything is gravy. He could probably hit a few more home runs to right with that short porch.

It’s a perfect fit for them. I’m just not sure what we would get back so I doubt it would even be worth considering much for Frank Wren.

stynes

May 28th, 2009
11:37 am

Francouer and HR to right in the same sentence?

ElonBrave

May 28th, 2009
11:37 am

Here’s the thing: I see NO good option for solving the outfield power outage. I think it would be stupid for us to force a move in which we’d give up too much talent for a rental, or a guy that won’t be enough to solve the problem (see: Garrett Anderson). Besides, it wouldn’t make a lot of long-term sense for us to shell out big bucks or trade huge for an outfielder when Heyward should be here in a couple years – in a way, he’d be blocking them from below.

So, what if we shifted gears? As far as I’m concerned, it doesn’t matter WHERE the power is coming from as long as it’s there. I wonder if we’ve considered upgrading at 2B. We could get some bop and some speed in the same package if we could land a Kinsler or Hill, maybe Brandon Phillips or Brian Roberts.

Thoughts?

buzzmeat (BMAC AT CLEANUP!)

May 28th, 2009
11:39 am

Elonbrave,

Id love to get a better 2b if it gives us power, KJ had bad cold streaks

PWHjort

May 28th, 2009
11:44 am

McFann,
Boog is a professional announcer and never really played sports. He announced anything from High School Basketball to college gymnastics to MLB. ESPN used him in the WBC for the Asian group because he was probably the only person competent enough to correctly pronounce their names.

dude

May 28th, 2009
11:45 am

Don’t trade Frenchy for gods sake. My girls will be crushed. Im talkin massive sobbing!
Trade some of the other outfielders…. the’re not doing a rats azz anything either and they certainly dont have the FANS.

ElonBrave

May 28th, 2009
11:45 am

Francouer/pitcher(s) for Pedroia? (wince)

Salamander

May 28th, 2009
11:45 am

Trade Frenchy for Smoltz

I’ve seen this sentence several times on the blog over the past couple of days – does anyone really think this trade is a good idea, or are people just kidding?

If someone really think Jeff for Smoltz would

Anders

May 28th, 2009
11:45 am

What’s up Braves fans? Tough trip for your boys so far. Hey, look at the bright side. It appears like you caught the Blue Jays at just the right time.

I was at the Met game last night. Not sure if it was talked about on here but Adam Dunn hit an absolute bomb off of Santana. 465 feet onto the bridge in right center. Next time up he hit a 480 ft. drive that was caught at the wall in right center. Man was he locked in against Santana.

Salamander

May 28th, 2009
11:49 am

Cut off sentence in my last post…

If anyone really thinks Jeff for Smoltz would be a good trade for the Braves (or that the Red Sox really want to deal pitching), then I’d love to hear your argument.

dude

May 28th, 2009
11:49 am

Oh by the wat did anyone watch TEXAS RANGERS last night and think ATLANTA WEST? Dang, they r full of Bravos. We have developed pitchers and infielders but not outfielders in this organization. Always has been.

Cardog10

May 28th, 2009
11:50 am

Yeah, most teams take a few months to discover are certain player or two is not working. WE KNOW WE NEED NEW OUTFIELDERS NOW. It would be nice to have a beat writer who is actually a Braves fan and has a headline DEMANDING the Braves do something, and do it quick. Why wait two months? We know what we need, now. It would also be a good time, before players such as Holiday get hot and the teams don’t want to trade them anymore. Holiday is sick, I would have traded for him weeks ago when he was off to his bad start. He isn’t used to the American League, and the more he plays, the better he is going to get, and the less likely he will be traded. TAKE ACTION NOW. Package up KJ, Franceour, and Anderson, throw in Reyes and Medlen…. That is an attractive offer, and I guarantee we will be better off.
But of yeah, lets wait, maybe we can lose more games then we would if we didn’t wait… that is smart.

bravos1982

May 28th, 2009
11:50 am

I just heard on XM radio the Braves are in talks with Luis Gonzalez and Jim Edmonds. Seriously thinking that one of these vets is the answer to the teams “power outage”. Sounds pretty serious, so don’t expect a trade for a bat this year.

RHR

May 28th, 2009
11:51 am

I’m only in if it means KJ moving to RF and Jeffy traded for a 2B.

Joe F

May 28th, 2009
11:53 am

I know its been mentioned in this blog before, but why haven’t the Braves looked at Jim Edmonds as a possible platoon/mentor for Jordan Schafer in CF. All Edmonds did last year is .235/.343/.479 with 20 home runs in 340 ABs. Sounds like he is worth taking a shot on at least. Put him in Norton’s roster spot at least and give the kid a break….

JayDubu

May 28th, 2009
11:54 am

Questions that I hope my fellow bloggers cna help with:

1-What’s the longest winning streak the Braves have had over the past three season?

2-Wh do you think will pitch in the majors this year first, Glavine or Smoltz?

Daniel

May 28th, 2009
11:54 am

The Braves hand is being forced right now, not just by the standings, but the sheer futility in our outfield. Right now! our pitching is doing very well. It won’t be the same in 2-3 years when Freeman and Heyward come into the majors. To me KJ, Yunel, Francouer, Morton, Medlen, Reyes, Brandon Jones, are all expendable trade pieces. Obviously, some of those are our left-overs but meant in terms of a package. It has become clear that Francouer is not going to turn it around in Atlanta. Schaefer is coming dangerously close to having record setting level of ineffectiveness. We cannot stand pat. I understand that it takes two teams to deal. But, DOB you don’t think the Mets and Phils are looking to upgrade their pitching. Honestly, whichever team meets their needs via trade first and most effectively will win the division. It is that simple.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

May 28th, 2009
11:55 am

Frenchy for Lugo or Jeff Bailey? Don’t know that Frenchy is worth Ellsbury, besides he is a lefty.

JayDubu

May 28th, 2009
11:56 am

3 – Will KK be lights out in his next start? He will be on 5 days rest again.

I predict that he will be great again!

Daniel

May 28th, 2009
11:57 am

What about Lance Berkman?

Flat Bill Kid

May 28th, 2009
11:58 am

Frenchy is 25 and has the best outfield arm in the game. He has hit 20+ homers before. KEEP him and for all that is right fire Pendleton. If he isn’t telling jeff how to work into a hitter’s count and ween him off hitting the first pitch then…oh wait terry just eats seeds while jeff struggles. Keep Jeff and fire TP.

Anders

May 28th, 2009
11:59 am

Ooops. Dunn’s second shot was 380ft. not 480.

DAP

May 28th, 2009
12:00 pm

cardog10

youve got to remember that BOTH teams have to want to trade for it to happen. DOB clearly made that point in this blog. there are many teams that need some help. how many big trades have gone down so far? it just doesnt normally happen, and theres nothing anyone can do about it.

PWHjort

May 28th, 2009
12:01 pm

Hawpe + Willingham don’t necessarily “fix the problem”, but I do know that putting them at the corners and using Matt Diaz as a spot starter and RH bench bat makes our offense a lot more potent and eliminates the black hole behind the infield. We’d still be below average, but right now our infield is above average and our pitching is significantly above average, so anything better than “so far away from 29th place that there’s go question who has the worst outfield” would be a massive upgrade and give us a much better chance to win. If we’ve amassed a .500 record with this group of OFers, imagine what we could do with a competent group.

bravos1982

May 28th, 2009
12:01 pm

Brooklyn Braves– no way Boston gives up Ellsbury for Francoeur, no way! MAYBE Lugo IF the Braves throw in a solid lower level prospect. And that’s a big MAYBE. Edmonds might just work for the time being and give that Schafer guy a break once in awhile. Guys/ladies, the Braves aren’t getting a big bat any time soon, if at all. Money is a major issue and Frank Wren has already shown how he feels about trading prospects.

Daniel

May 28th, 2009
12:02 pm

no 20+ homers for Jeff since increase steroid testing. Yes, I said it.

Willy Wally

May 28th, 2009
12:02 pm

Boog was smart enough to get into a high school that only the smartest Catholic school kids in New York City can get into. Despite wanting to go there, I was too dumb and too lazy to gain entry.

Anders

May 28th, 2009
12:04 pm

I know DOB wrote that the trading generally won’t happen until early July at best and I tend to agree with him. However, look at the Braves schedule from 6/16 through 7/1. 15 real tough games. If the Braves wait until after then they made be sellers rather than buyers.

The Braves better make hay against the D’Backs this weekend before they come home to the Cubbies and Brewers next week.

dude

May 28th, 2009
12:05 pm

Flat Bill Kid got it right. Issues continue in hitting instruction. Schafer,French,Diaz,K.J.,and the biggest one of all time —Andrew Jones! Whatever koolaid T.P. has the kids aren’t drinking. You can’t just continue to hide behind the phrase ‘we tell them what to do…they just won’t to do it’. It painfully is not working.

MFin04

May 28th, 2009
12:05 pm

LOL, I’ve always disliked Edmonds because I thought he was too showy and dove for balls that didn’t need to be dived at. That being said…I like the mentor idea for Schafer with Edmonds.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

May 28th, 2009
12:05 pm

KK did not pitch horribly last night, he wiggled out of trouble all night. Thought he kept us in the game for the most part, we gotta find a way to put 4-5 runs on the board consistently. There is a lot of hard luck going around.

Chipper and Esco need to be on the DL, Chipper had 4 horrible at bats last night and Esco can’t even run. We also need another middle INF ASAP.

Willy Wally

May 28th, 2009
12:05 pm

18-12 when Lowe, Vazquez and Jurrjens start. 5-11 when they don’t. It ain’t just the offense.

PMC

May 28th, 2009
12:07 pm

Roids are illicit in Baseball now so Luis Gonzalez is a definate no.

McFann :Ô:

May 28th, 2009
12:08 pm

Thanks, PWHjort!

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

May 28th, 2009
12:09 pm

Bravos1982- I figured Ellsbury for Frenchy would not happen, he is there only CF. Rocco is never healthy. I don’t see a fit for Frenchy in Boston, personally.

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