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Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:36 am
Aaron Rowand is a more manly centerfielder than Jordan Shafer.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:37 am
Necromancer,
Yes. I go to a few games. I’d rather watch the A-Braves, though, so I try to go to games when they’re not playing at the same time. Usually when I go visit during the summer I go, too. I have to go back up there for my court date in June and I’ll probably go then. The whole experience is a great deal. Do you go often?
TnBrian
May 28th, 2009
1:37 am
KC, I like your point at 1:22. Everyone can agree that th offense is pretty average and way below average when either Chipper is playing hurt or not playing, same for Escobar, and McCann being a catcher takes the bat away from here some days. But, the 4-5 starters have been nothing like we thought coming into ‘09, at least me. Kawa. is too inconsistant and whatever we’ve been given for the #5 has been pretty much an instant loss. Like you said, Hudson/Glavine/Hanson should/will help there. Enough, it’s late. Time for sleep.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:38 am
instead of chocolate they use bat poop–you mean guano???
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:38 am
Well the moon pie folks ought to check out the Braves then because their bats are full of poop.
KC
May 28th, 2009
1:38 am
N8, if Kawkami doesn’t improve, he WILL come out of the rotation this year. Bank on it.
Glavine or Hanson will hold down one of the two final rotation spots. And then, if KK isn’t pitching well come August, he’ll give way to Tim Hudson.
The ONLY scenario under which a struggling Kawakami stays in the rotation all year is if Glavine can’t return (or sucks), and Hanson & Medlen BOTH fall on their face. In which case, Hudson would replace Glavine or Hanson instead of KK. But I find that scenario very unlikely.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:38 am
Get rid of Kelly Johnson and get a manly second baseman like Jeff Kent.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:38 am
Aaron Rowand is a more manly centerfielder than Jordan Shafer.
You would think that, Sarge.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:40 am
Randy Johnson may not be pretty but he is pretty manly.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:40 am
4th and 5th starters have to get run support in order to win though. That’s the reason they are 4th and 5th starters, because they give up runs and have ERAs around 4.00-5.00. If the Braves would consistently score runs for the 4th and 5th guys, they’d be winning more games and the 4th and 5th guys stats would look a lot better.
Kawakami has to go 8 innings and pitch a 3 or 4 hit shutout to get a win? I mean no 4th starter should have to do that to get a win.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:41 am
Roman Gal
I used to go all the time when my dad had season tickets. I think I went a couple of times last year.
Yeah, eventhough I complain about the A-Braves, I still would rather go and see them play.
But, it’s all fun, nonetheless.
MAXIMUS
May 28th, 2009
1:41 am
Roman Gal,
Actually I was born in the province of Baetica in Hispania in AD 152
Tomahawkin
May 28th, 2009
1:41 am
The AWFense Is Garbage Even With Chipper in the Lineup…
Teams just pitch around him, beacuse the opposing managers are smart enough to know that they will not let last years batting Champion beat them, Nuff Said
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:42 am
Bobby Cox used to be manly but I think he’s crossed over to the other side, if you know what I mean.
MAXIMUS
May 28th, 2009
1:42 am
Roman Gal,
I was sent to school at the age of eight to Hispalis, and studied under the tutelage of Fulvus, the stoic philospher.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:42 am
Too bad this isn’t like Facebook.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:43 am
Historically, Romans were pretty manly.
Bobby's Cox
May 28th, 2009
1:43 am
probably braves70.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:44 am
McCann is batting .320 now after coming back off the DL. He was like batting what .190 before? That is just incredible. McCann and Jurrjens make this team watchable, but barely.
Bobby's Cox
May 28th, 2009
1:44 am
Watching Francouer hit makes hitting look like the hardest thing to do in the world.
Watching the Dodgers hit against Colorado makes hitting look like the easiest thing to do in the world.
braves70
May 28th, 2009
1:44 am
Max if you were born in 152 AD you probably knew Bobby Cox then, he is so old. I think Bobby is the one responsible for the fall of Rome and the Braves. No moon pies for Bobby.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:45 am
Randy Johnson may not be pretty but he is pretty manly.–he’s pretty ugly…if Ugly was a state, he’d be the capitol.
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:46 am
…and studied under the tutelage of Fulvus, the stoic philospher.
Maximus, is that so? I’m pretty sure he’s still there! He teaches Women’s Self-Defense, right?
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:46 am
Greg Norton is probably the manliest Brave but he’s not very good. Watch them replace him with someone who’s a little light in their cleats.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:46 am
Bobby could afford to steer clear of the moon pies, fa sho!
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
1:47 am
Well, that was different for lunch. Subway has a new sandwich on the menus called “Tori-goubou” – sliced chicken with burdock root salad in this sesame flavored sauce. Not bad, but I suspect it will not be exported.
Now moonpies – they’re takin’ over the world!
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:48 am
No need to bring up JF………..watching the braves is hard enough.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:48 am
McCann and Jurrgens are fairly manly. They need to spend more time at strib clubs.
Bravo Nam
May 28th, 2009
1:48 am
I don’t understand why Bobby is so excruciatingly patient with his hitters, yet is generally not the same with his pitchers. It is killing the Braves the fact that they keep trotting out Francoeur and Schafer every day. Six hitters and three “pitchers”. In fact, that might be a bit kind given how badly some of the other players have hit.
I think we’ll continue to see the same pattern with KK- labouring performances sprinkled with a dominating one. Given the pitching depth the Braves have, I’d be trading him now and freeing up the cash for a bat or two and some bullpen help.
I hate to say it as a fellow Aussie, but Moylan needs to be sent back to AAA and have time to get himself together. There is no point having him pitch when he clearly is not ready and damaging his confidence.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:48 am
Fulvus?
sounds kind of perverted.
or, is my mind just in the gutter, as usual…
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
1:49 am
Necromancer,
That’s cool. Since the A-Braves have the college discount, it’s really not much cheaper to go to a minor-league game for me. I enjoy following the minor leagues, but I don’t want to miss the big club much.
Hail Unto Caesar
May 28th, 2009
1:49 am
Yo Maximus – did I ever tell you that Gaul is divided into three parts?
KC
May 28th, 2009
1:49 am
MFin04, yeah… as we all know, there are two ways to win a ball game: You score runs, and you stop the other guys from scoring.
Of course, if the offense were giving the 4/5 starters 5 or 6 runs per game every day, they’d be better than 4-12 with those games.
There is no doubt whatsoever that adding offense would help this team. But I think it’s going to be easier to shave 2 runs of the ERA of the 4/5 starter slots than it will be to increase the offensive output of this team by 2 runs per game.
Also, when you have 2 weak links in the rotation, all you need is for one of the top-3 starters to lose a game up against the 4/5 starters turns, as was just the case in SF… and you have a 3 game losing streak. But when you’re starters are all solid, you rarely get swept.
So while we NEED more offense, improving the bottom of the rotation is actually more critical, IMO. BOTH are crucial, but 4/5 starters even more so than the offensive upgrades.
Bobby's Cox
May 28th, 2009
1:50 am
Teams just pitch around him, beacuse the opposing managers are smart enough to know that they will not let last years batting Champion beat them, Nuff Said
Ya, pitch around him like they did tonight when they struck him out 4 times for the 1st time in his career. If that’s pitching around him, then we need to move Corky Miller into the clean up spot… or Jeff Francouer.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
1:50 am
This is the first time that manliness and Jeff Francoeur have appeared in the same sentence.
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:53 am
Roman Gal
I would go to more Atlanta Braves games, but the friggin’ traffic drives me to inventing new curse words..
So, I don’t go as much as I could go.
MFin04
May 28th, 2009
1:54 am
I think KK gave the Braves a chance to win tonight though. 5.2 with 4 runs 3ER while not being too terribly sharp. And if Ross doesn’t mess that one play up, Schafer catches a ball, and Moylan doesn’t give up that hit. Then what KK gives up only 2 or 3 runs in 6 innings? That’s not too bad for a 4th starter. Obviously not ideal, but we have to be able to win games like this against the Giants. Especially when we get the game to 4-3 (and in all reality the game should have been at worst tied 3-3).
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
1:54 am
KC,
You think TG will be n upgrade fromo JoJo ? Im not sure about that one………..
How about Hanson over Medlen? not so fast either………this is MLB and not AAA
Necromancer
May 28th, 2009
1:57 am
well, good night all…eyelids gettin’ heavy on me!
scottbravesfan
May 28th, 2009
2:02 am
Man this series was a complete waste. Way to keep the momentum going after a good sweep of the Jays. Francoeur and Schafer have got to go. I know there is no one who can play center in the Braves system right now that is in the upper levels of the minors but give Brandon Jones a chance in right field Francouer is awful right now. He needs to go down to AAA and not cry about it and actually work on his approach because he can not hit major league pitching right now.
bocabrave
May 28th, 2009
2:08 am
Just returned from the ballpark (despite my screen name, I now live in the bay area). I had been looking forward to this series since the schedule was published, because the Giants are not very good and the Braves were well positioned to win a couple, if not sweep. OOPS. DOB says it’s too early to panic. He’s right because panic won’t help this team. It sucks. Anyone who thinks this collection of mostly triple A players can compete with the Phillies and Mets over a season is delusional. The bloggers have pretty well defined the needs: a power hitter, just average hitting outfielders, bullpen help (Moylan has not recovered from his surgery no matter what he says), a second baseman, etc. The Braves will be lucky to be a .500 team this year with all their problems.
I do think the starting pitching is passable, but it will need a lot more run support to win consistently. I really feel sorry (this is sincere) for JS and JF. They look so overmatched at the plate. I’m reminded of Ryan Langerhans and Brad Komminsk, and we know how those experiments ended.
That said, if you ever get a chance to attend a game in SF, do it. It is a beautiful park and a fun place to watch baseball; but bring a coat-it can get foggy and chilly quickly. Adios…
ccrider
May 28th, 2009
2:08 am
I mentioned this last night, but the reality is becoming clearer and clearer. The Braves are in a tough spot because if they tried to get some more offense now, either teams aren’t ready to trade, the players that are available are not that good or by the time the normal trading starts, July as DOB stated, the Braves will be too far out to bother. The point I made last night is we shouldn’t trade any of our young position players with serious upside(Heyward, Freeman, C. Johnson, Gorky) or young potential starting pitchers(Hanson, Medlen, Morton,Locke Etc.) for 1 big bat. This offense is way to inferior for 1 big bat to make a difference. The Braves should instead trade the older players that could bring young top prospects and at the same time cut payroll so next year we would have the money to get some better position players. Trade Lowe, Vazquez, Francoeur, K.Johnson, Gonzalez, Soriano, G. Anderson (payroll savings $45.5) . Lowe, Vazquez, Gonzalez and Soriano should bring a nice return from teams in the pennant race. Keep McCann, Kotchman(until Freeman is ready), Escobar, Diaz, Schafer, Infante, Prado, Ross, Diory. You are asking what about Chipper? I have considered this remorsefully, but if a team like the Red Sox (who needs a great DH with David Ortiz looking finished) were willing to give up a couple of major prospects(Clay Bucholtz or Michael Bowden, JJ Reddick) then the time is right for the Braves as well as Chipper. Chipper is not going to be able to produce at a high level playing in the field. He should become a DH to finish out his career. This would save another $13 Million. A lineup of Chone Figgins 3B, Omar Infante 2B, Jason Bay or Matt Holiday LF, B. McCann C, X. Nady RF, Rick Ankiel CF, Y. Escobar SS C. Kotchman 1B Looks a lot better than the present. Hudson, Jurrjens, Hanson, Kawakami, Medlen or Morton. Resign Gonzalez and add bulllpen help from the the trades of Lowe Etc. The team would be instantly competitive and the farm would be loaded for a long run at going for the World Series!
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
2:13 am
I would go to more Atlanta Braves games, but the friggin’ traffic drives me to inventing new curse words.. Necomancer
Hah! Well, I’m used to Atlanta traffic. Plus, I’m an aggressive driver so I can get through it pretty easily. You just gotta put some Jon McLaughlin or Justin Nozuka on the radio to keep you calm.
Wallis
May 28th, 2009
2:13 am
I love all the delusional people on here.
Face it – Braves owners and management are clueless / don’t care.
The manager is a relic.
Nothings happening with this team for MANY years.
Sarge
May 28th, 2009
2:14 am
That Medlen guy doesn’t seem very manly either.
DirtyDawg
May 28th, 2009
2:17 am
If I were Brian McCann, having fought like hell in the ninth to keep us alive, only to see that dumb-ass kid Schafer flail away at the first pitch he saw to end the game I’d be kickin’ somebody’s ass. Of course, his former best friend Jeff Francipants, had already shown that he’d given up during his at-bat just prior to Brian’s. Once again, that’s a couple of hours of my life that I’ll never get back. Prado was a big disappointment at second – it was his throw in the dirt that caused that botched play that they called a ‘double-steal’ – it was an E-4 and a FC. If he’s not gonna do any better than that, then might as well play K Johnson, although I’d still like to see what KJ could do in the outfield – either center or right.
Whaah!
May 28th, 2009
2:21 am
…..someone in the stands sneezes and chipper takes himself out of the lineup……….who the hell is the manager? This team is a joke………….anarchy all around. DocH
that post is a joke. man up and deal with it wuss. instead of whining like a 12 year old
Tokyo Bravo
May 28th, 2009
2:21 am
All alone here on the blog now, I guess.
Kinda peaceful here in the quiet after all that howling-bloody-murder stuff earlier.
** chirp chirp **
Btw, ccrider, some of what you say actually makes a bit of sense, oddly enough. I’d be willing to blow up the veteran leadership if – IF – it would mean an influx of stud prospects. Not sure we have the pieces to fleece someone liked Texas did us, but it might be worth thinking about if the team just flounders along at .500 through the first weeks of July.
nolie
May 28th, 2009
2:23 am
go to school in Rome. (Roman Gal)
they have schools in Rome? Who knew?
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
2:26 am
ccrider
The problem with trading Chipper, especially if the team doesn’t do particularly well this year, will be fan draw. They’re already struggling and trading Chipper won’t help anything. I know I’m certainly more inclined to go to a game if he’s healthy. There are just some players that teams don’t need to trade. Besides, if we’re going to have a bunch of young guys coming up, I want Chipper in the dugout with them.
Where would McCann be without Chipper?
Roman Gal
May 28th, 2009
2:26 am
they have schools in Rome? Who knew?
nolie, that’s what they tell me.
KC
May 28th, 2009
2:31 am
Doc Holiday, in regard to Glavine… he looked good this spring. Even ESPN took time out of their Yankee/Red Sox coverage in March to highlight his spring starts, and talk about how the guy just knows how to pitch, and can still get people out.
He wasn’t healthy last year, but it was just the season before last in which he won 13 games, and finished 5th in the league in quality starts (23).
Could he come back only to find out the hard way that it’s time to hang ‘em up? Sure. But based on what we saw this spring, and the fact that his velocity was back up in normal Tom Glavine range in his Gwinnett start… I see no reason to write him off.
I see no reason why he couldn’t come back an be for the Braves what Moyer was for the Phillies the last couple seasons, PRIOR to this year (it appears, at 47, age is finally catching up to Moyer). Time will tell.
As for Tommy Hanson, there’s a reason why Hanson is arguably the top overall starting pitching prospect in baseball. Even with Medlen’s incredible start down at Gwinnett, Hanson’s stock is still considerably higher. Hanson has more dominant stuff, and appears to me more mentally ready than Medlen.
Hanson also has a much larger sample size of dominance on the farm. Not only has he been great THIS year… he was dominant last year, and was great to an unprecedented degree in the Arizona Fall League.
Frank Wren even came right out and said that if this call up had been anything more than temporary (waiting for Glavine), it would have been Hanson, not Medlen, who got the call.
If you talk to any scout in baseball, they’ll all tell you that Hanson is more likely than not to be a top-of-rotation pitcher at the big league level. Medlen’s still got a lot more to prove than Hanson. As you said, this isn’t AAA. Just because Medlen slightly outperformed Hanson for a month or two, doesn’t he’s on the same level as Hanson in terms of his potential. That’s not a knock on Medlen. It’s just that Hanson is as gifted as they come.
BigMacAttack
May 28th, 2009
2:31 am
best outfield hit tonight came from a pinch hitter, that’s saying something.
If waiting requires “patience” and “it’s only may” I’m curious to see where they’ll be record wise/offensive wise in the one month .. two months it takes for a deal to form.
Maybe they’ll surprise us and be 4-7 games back. Having games like the sweep of the blue jays to get them back in the race and sweeps by the giants or whoever to knock them back away. Or will they be 10+ games back and a big trade seem kind of useless (the teixeira one sure was)?
David O'Brien
May 28th, 2009
2:43 am
Braves were 3-for-23 with RISP in the series….
Chipper needed 2,060 games to get his first Golden Sombrero (four Ks). Schafer already has two.
Wayne in Utah
May 28th, 2009
3:16 am
DOB
What’s the late night word on Chipper? Is he just banged up a bit. Sounds like it could be worse to me. Hope not!
Thanks in advance. (you shoulda tried those pork nachos, they were decadent!)
Bay Area Steve
May 28th, 2009
3:21 am
Walking out of that stadium, showing Braves’ colors, after being swept…I felt like one of those chicks you see walking through your Vegas hotel, carrying their heels, at 6 AM, right when you’re saying, “one good deck, and I’ll go to bed.”
SG, nice to see you around lately, and good guess. But just beer when the fellas are in town. Three at the house, three on the train, three at the park. That’s my hope. Which I was able to execute yesterday, but today I’m afraid an extra twenty or two was left at the park. I was doin’ ok ’til we gave back those two runs.
ccrider
May 28th, 2009
3:26 am
Tokyo Bravo and Roman Gal: I feel at least it might be a plan, where as at the moment the Braves Organization is constantly piece mealing together a team each year, with a few vets, a few young potential stars and a lot of mismatched pieces. Roman Gal, I agree chipper would be the toughest move to make and only if it got a substantial return, but sometimes a great player holds the young players back by leading with words that his/her body can no longer lead by example. Chipper is constantly in and out of the lineup, which leads to a roller coaster effect for the young guys in terms of leading themselves. I , also, think that this would be best for Chipper. He would finish his career playing for a contender, staying healthier and putting up Hall of Fame numbers that he can’t do playing in the field everyday and getting injured. Something has to be done to change the makeup and mindset of this team and organization. They are just treading water, not good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to rebuild fully. This might be a way of getting back in the hunt!
Bay Area Steve
May 28th, 2009
3:32 am
n8, apologies on the Whitesnake sign.
I lied. I’m too lazy to carry a freakin’ (Wayne: freakin’ acceptable?) sign. Plus, DOB mentioned something about bringing some sort of wrath, if I did. I’m wary of others’ wrath. I’m anti-wrath.
Then, there’s the fact that I wouldn’t know a Whitesnake song if…if…ever. In all fairness, I wouldn’t know just about any of the musical stuff talked about here. My loss. I do know a lot of Wu-Tang’s stuff (nice call, scoots), although as I get older, I wonder more and more whether that genre should be my starting point.
Should one’s favorite songs be from E-40 and Clint Black. Should a 31-year-old white guy even know who E-40 is?
Coach (Moon Pie, anyone?)
May 28th, 2009
3:33 am
In deference to Chipper Jones, he is playing hurt. It showed in the batters box last night. There is no way in hell that a healthy Chipper does the same thing. While I admire his grit and determination, Hoss ain’t doing himself or anybody else any favors by continuing to play.
He needs to go on the D.L. Period. Atlanta’s infield is beat up and there is nothing that can be done about it. The outfield is the same disaster it has been since last season. Again, it can’t be fixed with just one trade. Folks, it’s gonna be one very long trying season for all of us.
Moon Pie and an RC cola, anybody?
Bay Area Steve
May 28th, 2009
3:43 am
Ambrosine,
would never ridicule our squad in front of the opposition. The premise, I can’t deny: Francoeur, right now, sucks.
I did get some laughs out of 10 and 16, and D.Ross during BP. Esco, not so much; that guy can give a look like he’d spike your heart out breaking up a double-play.
And, for the record, I wasn’t so much upset about McCann having the day off. I just think it would’ve made more sense to give him Monday’s day game off against the LHP Sanchez, because of the late-arriving flight. A day game after a cross-country flight is a once, or twice-a-year deal, I think.
And, I find it hard to believe that Bowman has half-eaten bags of anything around. That dude’s bigger than I am.
Coach (Moon Pie, anyone?)
May 28th, 2009
3:47 am
Dear Frank Wren, remember this name.
Luis Durango. There are few types of players that get me all hot and bothered like true lead off type speed merchants. This guy is just that. His numbers over the last five minor leagues seasons are just stupid, and he’s not on anybody’s radar.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=durang001lui
Jerald Holcombe
May 28th, 2009
5:33 am
I’m not one for telling you that I told ya so, but I did tell ya so. But of course, I’m just a dumb blogger, right Eric? I told you that Kawakami would lose, and I told you that I didn’t trust EOF and look what he did in just 1/3 of an inning. And of course, I took a lotta grief from other losers about how this wasn’t the night for McCann to take a night off considering the weakness of the lineup. At any rate, Ross looked like sh!t and McCann had to come in anyway and got on base twice. I also said when this series started that you guys were too high on this team after that sweep of the Jays and that it was entirely possible that the Braves would get swept against the worst offense in the majors. Damn, I sure look like a clairvoyant this morning. All in all, you bums just keep on giving me grief and calling me names, and I’ll just keep on being right. So many of you have a strange idea of what to means to be a fan of the Atlanta Braves. I’m a fan of the Braves, but I’m not a fan of this team. Only the true Braves fans here can understand that statement. Off to work now.
Edo River
May 28th, 2009
6:42 am
look, If we wind up in the tank this year, then that means another high draft pick, and another chance to draft a powerhitting fielder. EVENTUALLY, in 3 or 4 years this would pay off. So one way of looking at this is that Francoeur is doing us a favor by taking up space on the field and dragging us down in order to improve our draft order. I’m not saying I think this is a great idea, but at least it puts a positive spin on the situation.
**thanks DOB for giving me a moment of your time**
SOS
May 28th, 2009
6:51 am
Jerald. Good comment once again. I have been talking about how we need to get rid of Bobby Cox for 4 years now. No one holds him accountable. The front office just does not care. As long as the fans continue to come watch a very mediocre team then nothing will be done with the (HOF ?) manager. It is obvious to the fan that has had years playing, watching, and reading about the game of baseball that Bobby Cox is not the man now. Look at Joe Torre. Everywhere he goes, he succeeds. AND we could have had him back here again!!
RHR
May 28th, 2009
7:21 am
I would bet my home, car and dog that we wont score a single run and that we will win next game by a margin of 8 runs…………wanna bet?
What kind of dog do you have?
David
May 28th, 2009
7:57 am
Bottom line DOB, they won’t make the playoffs for the 4th straight year. And they wonder why they aren’t selling tickets. This should’ve been addressed in the OFFSEASON, not now. It wasn’t and the attendence is what they have to show for it.
TommyP
May 28th, 2009
8:47 am
I would LOVE to hear Wren’s answer to the question, “Why didn’t you just sign Adam Dunn on the cheap when you could????”
And to think the guy can also play a little 1B makes me sick.
jack
May 28th, 2009
8:55 am
CHIPPER LOOKS LIKE HE IS HURTING. THR BRAVES DON’T NEED TO TRADE FOR A HITTER, THEY NEED TO FIRE T P LOOK WHAT HE DID TO ANDREW HE DID THE SAME TO JEFF. CHIPPER IS TOO SMART TO LET HIM MESS HIM UP. ANDREW WAS AFUTURE HALL OF FAMER UNTILL THR BRAVES HIRED T P
LongBall
May 28th, 2009
9:05 am
how about Kotch, Frenchy, and a mid prospects for Youk – than trade for an outfielder that would not cost much in prospects – maybe Josh willingham or Kearns from wash.
Canadian Braves Fan
May 28th, 2009
9:11 am
DOB what about Travis Snider of the Jays, for Frenchy and Morton. I know that Snider is in the minors, but he is young, cheap and lots of potential. The jays need pitching
Allen
May 28th, 2009
9:13 am
I think you all are crazy, maybe its not the players thats the problem. I say we get rid of Frank Wren. The man hasn’t made one significant acquisition since he’s taken over. After all we had a chance in the off season to get some big names on here, but he didn’t pull the string. He let Smoltz go to Boston, We could of added Griffey Jr., Santana, oh and lets not forget Wren got rid of Texiera. So it seems to me that Frank Wren isn’t making the best business decisions out there for the Braves.
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
9:21 am
Just caught up with last night’s comments. Uga-brave, that post you made at 12:39 about a seagull finding Bonds’ old stash and swooping in to carry away one of our OF was by far the funniest thing on the blog last night. Truly hilarious. The Maximus thing was pretty funny too. And that’s a pretty interesting nugget about golden sombreros, DOB.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
9:25 am
The man hasn’t made one significant acquisition since he’s taken over.
You don’t think Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar were significant? Or Will Ohman and Omar Infante for Jose Ascanio? Or the signing of Derek Lowe? LET Smoltz go to Boston? Got rid of Texiera? Hmm. Okay.
RHR
May 28th, 2009
9:27 am
By the way, with all the comments on moon pies you’d think they were really good. Trust me, cabraves, they’re not. They’re super dry and so not worth the calories. I could name no less than 100 things I’d rather eat than a moon pie.
DirtyDawg
May 28th, 2009
9:29 am
Clearly this team has a lot of holes…holes that aren’t likely to be filled any time soon, but for SOS to make the comment that Joe Torre, as much as I love the guy, wins everywhere he goes, sorta leaves out the qualifier, ‘other than Atlanta and St. Louis’…at least somebody thought he’d worn out his welcomes there.
I know it’s accepted protocol not to rush promising players to the majors – fear of failure and the corresponding loss of confidence. Well I say, to hell with that. Bring our best prospects to town and ‘let ‘em fail’ if they have to, just give us something to root for cause this bunch is killing whatever enthusiasm any of us have left for this baseball season. I mean who says that just because you don’t get it done the first time around, you can’t learn from Major League efforts the same way, or even better, than from Class A, AA or AAA? Don’t know what to do with all the veterans that you’ve invested too much money in? Put ‘em all on the DL with bad backs or something. Just get us some kids in here that won’t quit.
DAP
May 28th, 2009
9:30 am
KCif Kawkami doesn’t improve, he WILL come out of the rotation this year.
if he keeps pitching like he has been, i think he will be fine. he has only had 2 bad starts. he hasnt gone as deep into games as i would like, but he is doing his part to keep the team in the game.
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
9:35 am
J.P. Ricardi would have no use for Francoeur. And the Blue Jays are not going to trade their top prospect for a few scrubs. One of the Blue Jays problems is a lack of young, cheap outfield talent and they’re tied up in huge contracts for OF. Why would they exacerbate the problem by trading their top prospect, an OF?
monty
May 28th, 2009
9:36 am
The worst offensive team in the league( Giants),they looked a whole lot more offensive than the Braves. I know Johnson was dealing last night but it seems like every other day we make some pitcher who has been struggling or got knocked around his last time out look like CY Young.
Bobby Coxx
May 28th, 2009
9:40 am
This team is toast. This is a lost year. We mind as well eat it with Schaffer in the 8 hole and do our best to dump Francouer. At least with Schaffer he will get experience and has shown a good glove. We are an 80-83 win team without any major injuries and a 75 win team with injuries…
As they said in Brooklyn, “wait ’til next year”…
Savannah Guy
May 28th, 2009
9:43 am
Good to see you too, Bay Area Steve. Now get to bed.
French to Boston… could be the best possible scenario for him and for the Braves no matter who we get in the trade. A wise man once said something like, “it is impossible to be a hero in your own home town when your mechanics are totally screwed up and you aren’t getting the coaching you need”. Maybe I embellished a bit.
Anyhoo, in Boston, French could get a fresh start away from the hometown glare and great expectations of the local high school wonderboy. As a perk, he can rejoin Smoltzie and Tiger on the links. With John’s shoulder and Tiger’s knee, they could use a strong caddie right?
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
9:44 am
I think the Joe and Boog broadcast has gone down hill. I still think they’re funny and they keep me entertained throughout the game, but it seems to me like Boog is trying to play both roles. And Joe is just kind of there to agree with him and play along with his bullcrap. I liked it better when Joe was more assertive and really played the role of color analyst. Joe is the baseball guy and Boog is the stathead, but Boog has slowly transformed Joe into a stathead. And Joe is a better baseball guy than stathead. He used to say things all the time that would make me say, “that’s wrong”. But I understood where he was coming from and I liked having that perspective in the broadcast. It’s just not there anymore.
lagnamor
May 28th, 2009
9:45 am
Adam Dunn bad defense…what about G Anderson’s bad defense? Dunn’s O makes up for his D.
Wren and Cox needs to be fired for the lack of production they put on the field.
GboroBravo
May 28th, 2009
9:47 am
PWHjort its better than Chip Caray.
DAP
May 28th, 2009
9:48 am
jackANDREW WAS AFUTURE HALL OF FAMER UNTILL THR BRAVES HIRED T P
do you even know when the braves hired TP? i bet you dont, or you probably wouldnt have said that.
Bill
May 28th, 2009
9:51 am
PWHjort: agree on Joe and Boog-man. I put TV on mute and turn on Radio. Its much better.
Braves73
May 28th, 2009
9:52 am
DOB – I agree with most of what you blogged in regards to making a trade/timing. I don’t agree with the notion that delaying Tommy Hanson is to get an extra year on his future arbitration. I can’t conceivably believe that if Hanson turns out to be a #1 starter that the Braves would let him go…I mean you just paid Derek Lowe $60 mill over 4. If Hanson is ready (to pitch now), then they should bring him up. That’s the reason they pay their scouts. Furthermore, if their is not a better fit for the 5th starter role, then why are they waiting?
My question to you DOB, is what do you think? Do think that Hanson is ready for primetime right now or does he need more seasoning (irregardless of the future arbitration)?
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
9:55 am
RHR,
It is the most beautiful and trained german shepherd you have ever seen80% black 15% gold 5% white. His name…………SCARTO after one of the 2 horses GLADIATOR had (ARGENTO being the other).
McFann :Ô:
May 28th, 2009
9:56 am
So McCann got to play, eh? Did they put him in as a defensive substitute?
Um…seriously now: He hit a DOUBLE!!! FINALLY!! And I hear it was a good AB. I’ll hafta to look at it on the Gameday. Although that won’t quite do it justice…
Lew
May 28th, 2009
9:58 am
Allen-Excuse me? No significant acquisition? What do you consider the Jurrjens trade to be?
Y’all-Francoeur is not an experiment. In 05 he was an experiment. Now he just is.
flange1
May 28th, 2009
10:01 am
Lew,
How is the eye?
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
10:01 am
Penny is 3-1 with a 4.40 ERA in May after going 2-0 with an 8.66 ERA in April. His run support is the second-highest in the American League.
Lew
May 28th, 2009
10:02 am
PWH-I have the MLB Extra Innings package and have received a Braves’ feed about six times so far. Believe me, Joe and Boog would be a pleasant change of pace-even Chip Caray would be welcome. Hell is listening to Ron Darling and that idiot Gary Whatever of the Mets 18 times a year-or that group the Brewers employ.
Lew
May 28th, 2009
10:03 am
Flange-No infection and the pressure is good. Looks weird, though-the white of the right eye is red-makes me look like an old, fat, Vampire.
Canadian Braves Fan
May 28th, 2009
10:06 am
PWHjort, that was a starting point, the Jays need arms and we have lots. Frenchy might be more productive with a change of scenary. I wouldnt give up Hansen, or JJ for him but some others? maybe
Shaun
May 28th, 2009
10:08 am
Braves73, there are all sorts of reasons to delay Tommy Hanson’s arrival. Delaying his arbitration eligibility is just one of them. Some others: He only pitched 98 innings above A-ball coming into this season, he’s still very young, the Braves are fairly deep in pitching already so what’s a couple of more months without Hanson. And whether they are going to re-sign him when he becomes a free agent is almost irrelevant to the discussion. They are still saving lots of money by delaying him a few months.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
10:09 am
Mc is a player…….at least we have a leader for years to come once chipper is gone………….or should I say even if chipper is still here?
pryguy
May 28th, 2009
10:10 am
Doc,
Great idea moving McCann to Boston. He is too good to be on this team. Your reasoning is sheer brilliance. Your sarcasm is what makes fans like you lose most of your credibility. Instead of degrading the team during their struggles, why not accept it for what it is and look forward to the triumps, as little as they may be to you. Enjoy the season, don’t exentuate the grind.
PWHjort
May 28th, 2009
10:11 am
They’re just not going to trade Snider. He’s like Hanson/Heyward to them. And I agree that Joe and Boog are much better than Joe and Chip. Everything about the Fox Sports broadcast is better than the Peachtree broadcast.
Doc Holiday
May 28th, 2009
10:13 am
Enter your comments here
McFann :Ô:
May 28th, 2009
10:13 am
And to the person who said Ross’ play on that steal of home was “McCann-esque”:
Only one out of four attempts to steal home off McCann have been successful. In other words, McCann got a 75% CS rate against guys who have tried to steal home off him…just FYI.
Doc H.–
I agree…completely.