2:14 pm May 26, 2009, by David O'Brien
May 26th, 20094:29 pm
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Those of you saying “bring back Andruw”, I urge you to check out his May numbers. His April numbers were rock solid. His May numbers stink. As of right now, his stats are headed in the downward direction.
How long can a player be listed as day to day before having to be placed on the DL?
Not sure exactly what you mean, but there are obviously no rules about how long a player can be termed “day-to-day” before going on the DL. Day to day is not an official designation, by the way, it’s just the player and/or the manager or other team official giving an estimate on when the player might be back, indicating it could be today, tomorrow, that it’s just not clear yet, but implying that he’s close to being ready.
May 26th, 20094:31 pm
Please, no more 1/2 year rental!
Get rid of Francoeur or send to the minors for a while and do something with Chipper and all his weird ailments !!!!!!
"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami
May 26th, 20094:32 pm
You know what won’t make the Braves outfield better?? Complaining and whining about the Josh Anderson trade or the Texieria trade or the trade of Dominique to the Clippers.
Let. It. Go. Sheesh.
The genius of Andruw is that the braves wouldn’t have to part with any real prospect. They might just be able to swap Frenchy, and if Andruw starts too stink he would be doing it for less money than Frenchy is.
May 26th, 20094:33 pm
His May stinks b/c he almost never gets to play
May 26th, 20094:35 pm
McFann-Mac gave all his 09 doubles to Kotchman.
May 26th, 20094:40 pm
Francouer and Jordan should be sent to AAA. They need to stay there until they are seasoned enough to play at the major league level.
Get anybody to play CF and RF. Anybody will be an upgrade.
Don’t trade JF, let him learn to play and THINK in the minor leagues where he belongs.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 26th, 20094:44 pm
LOL, already making excuses for Andruw?
May 26th, 20094:45 pm
Since the Indians are being rumored to firesale if things dont turnaround, I would like the Braves to go for Grady Sizemore with a KJ/Morton/Reyes/throw-in package. We get a 30/30 guy and Prado/Infante plays everyday, and Schaefer gets a season in AAA, while we give Jeff a chance to turn it around. He protects Chipper, just dont know his contract situation. What do you think?
Not sure if anyone has posted Brad Hawpe’s splits…
Home 51 ABs / .431 AVG / .725 SLG / 1.217 OPS / 2 HRs / 19 RBI
Away 80 ABs / .275 AVG / .525 SLG / 0.884 OPS / 4 HRs / 17 RBI
May 26th, 20094:46 pm
And what makes you think professionals who do such things for a living (namely the Texas GM) will not spot that vital 3 million difference.
May 26th, 20094:47 pm
so you guys have myspace or……….
May 26th, 20094:50 pm
good to see the same people writing the same things they spent a day and half writing on the last blog! We need a right handed bat in the OF. WE GET IT! Until someone does something about it, change the damn subject.
May 26th, 20094:51 pm
Someone stole my handle (again) on that most recent post…. Sizemore is signed for a long time, the Indians won’t move him.
You can’t give up half the farm to improve the outfield. And there aren’t really any options in the minors. I think eventually one will become available via a trade that will be more valuable than Francoeur and Schafer and hopefully the Braves are still in it by then.
Erik, the problem is not Francoeur’s batting average. The problem is that his batting average isn’t much lower than his on-base percentage. Plus his slugging percentage is under .400.
Again, not many options right now. But I think maybe it’s time to give Brandon Jones and Diaz a shot to play most days.
May 26th, 20094:52 pm
Chris, Sizemore would be a great pickup. Is he rumored to be available?
Yes, Fred Lewis is out! I don’t know what they mean by saying that he “avoided” the tag; he is clearly being tagged. That pic is on the sports page of the SF Chronicle today, why would they show that?
May 26th, 20094:53 pm
No way the Indians are dealing Sizemore unless they get something like Hanson and Heyward, which isn’t happening. No chance in hell.
I guess I thought there was a certain time frame for the day to day status before having to be place on the DL.
Must be one of those “play it by ear” scenarios, right?
Thanks for the 411.
TUpac Urnhart Junior
May 26th, 20094:55 pm
BRAVES IT IS OF THE UPMOST IMPORTANTANCE TO US BRAVES FANS THAT SOMETHING IS DONE TO TO RECTIFY THIS FEEBLE HITTING OUT FIELD!!!!!!!
HURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEIND GA,JF, IN A PAKCAGE DEAL! SEND CENTERFIELDEER BACK TO MINORS, HURRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
May 26th, 20094:57 pm
The 3 million dollar difference would be offset with some minor prospects and the fact that Frenchy is only 25. That sliver of hope is worth something to both organizations.
May 26th, 20094:58 pm
Does any one remember when Smoltz was having problems back in the early 90’s?
He went to a sports psychologist and got straightened out.
Maybe the same could work for Frenchy.
I hate the fact that he’s going through stuff. But hey, maybe a little work on his mental state might do the trick.
Then again, what do I know?
McFann if he was out MAC should have thrown a Yogi Berra fit. I thought he looked out also but neither BMac or Bobby argued.
Lew Mac gave all his 09 doubles to Kotchman.
Haha…apparently! Well, that was nice of him, but he needs to ask for a few back…
He is so out, it’s not even funny! I think somebody made that ump mad. But if they did, he needs to get over himself a little bit. Is he still peeved because the Braves wanted him to ask for help when Hammels or whoever ran out of the base-path on May 8? Sheesh…
Funny that they would put that picture on the cover…everyone’s gonna see it and go, “Whoa! He’s out!” Don’t know what Mr. Meals was thinkin’ there…
May 26th, 20094:59 pm
I will defense Schuerholz and Wren until the “cows come home” but it’s hard for me to understand how they didn’t/don’t realize Francoeur wasn’t/isn’t ready; unless it’s purely a PR move. Either that or they are completely ignoring the ability-driven stats and paying way too much attention to the results-driven stats.
May 26th, 20095:00 pm
Sit Schafer and Frenchy immediately. Start Diaz in right field-I don’t want to hear about defense.diaz’s glove could not possibly hurt us asmuch as Fredo’s bat. Can Prado play center?
good to see the same people writing the same things they spent a day and half writing on the last blog! Wes
Welcome to the blog, Wes.
May 26th, 20095:01 pm
I know what you mean…I’m not sure what’s with Bobby this year–he’s hardly argued at all!
I mean, maybe he did avoid the tag, but it sure doesn’t look like he did…perhaps McCann kept his mouth shut because he knew that umpire was already cheesed and he didn’t wanna cause him to make more bad calls on us (if that’s possible)…IDK. That’s kind of a stupid theory, I guess.
May 26th, 20095:03 pm
Hey O’brien nothing wrong with the column, but i believe “Left of The Dial” is actually on the album “Tim” not “Let it Be”
May 26th, 20095:05 pm
watch the swinging watch
you are getting tired
you are getting sleepy
close your eyes and sleep
now pick up the phone
call dayton moore
“jeff francoeur for twelve bats”
tell him “deal”
now hang up the phone
when i snap my fingers
you will awake
you feel much better now
May 26th, 20095:06 pm
I feel kind of bad for Frenchy because he’s been given the impression by people who are supposed to know better that he can actually hit major league pitching at this point in his career.
Again, I think Scherholz is a Hall of Famer and Wren has made some brilliant moves. But the way the Braves have handled Francoeur since about this time in the 2006 season boggles the mind. 2005 had everyone believing. But after a while an OBP below .300 and a slugging that rarely touches .450 at any point in the 2006 season is a sign that maybe the player could use more seasoning.
May 26th, 20095:07 pm
“I’m not sure what’s with Bobby this year–he’s hardly argued at all!”
Not true. The SOB is as argumentative as ever.
And he kicks the dogs.
May 26th, 20095:08 pm
Damn! Blog ate My post
I also believe in the Coors Field Factor regarding Hawpe…
M. Holliday on the other hand…Well at least he can run. I believe he stole over bases last year if i’m not mistaking…?
Rick Ankiel since He is a Borasshole client, I say Hell no to him…I smell another J.D. Screw Scenario writtin all over it…
Someone Mentioned G. Sizemore…I like the Idea but this isn’t “PS3 MLB The Show”…If the Indians are doing a fire-sale they will want 1/2 of our Farm system in return, No Chace In Hell! as Shaun put it…
Sizemore Is one of the Top-50 players of the game…He Just Doesn’t get the Props from BSPN because he doesn’t play in New Yawk or Boston…
However Something needs to be done NOW! K-Fer and Francoeur are Killing this Team “No Diggidity!”. “No Doubt!”
May 26th, 20095:09 pm
From the “Official Site”:
The first set of early results provided by Major League Baseball on Tuesday showed that Jones ranks third among all National League third basemen, with 281,540 votes, and McCann ranks fifth among the NL catchers, with 227,564.
Fifth? McCann is freaking FIFTH?? Who the heck is in front of him? John Grove better not be in the top four! But he’s a “Cubby”, so people are gonna vote for him…Grrrrr…cursed eye issue.
Shaun is back!!
May 26th, 20095:10 pm
Damn blog keeps eating my post
I also believe in the Coors Field Factor regarding B. Hawpe…
“…and Wren has made some brilliant moves.”
Yeah, when he plays checkers with 12 year olds.
Instead the powers that be with the Braves got caught up in the hype, the arm and the wrong batting stats and decided he was good enough to play in the majors until that point in 2008 when they finally sent him down (but not to stay). It really is sad for Francoeur because I believe he’s obviously trying. But this is one of the few players that a brilliant front office has mishandled since 2006.
I love to laugh at all of you guys trying to put Reyes in a trade like he has value. He IS the “throw-in”
May 26th, 20095:12 pm
I don’t see playing in the same division as an obstacle for a Willingham deal. If both teams improve their club, why would that hamper anything?
May 26th, 20095:13 pm
Bayou Brave: I’m not aware of any reputable source who’s indicated Sizemore is available. Only heard it among some folks here, where virtually everybody’s available who might possibly help the Braves.
I think the Braves should trade a bag of balls and world series tickets to <insert team name here>’s right fielder (providing his salary isn’t too much) and send Jeff “$3.6M” Francœur to the minors to get his swing together.
There, I said it.
May 26th, 20095:14 pm
Fifth? Who could possibly be ahead of him? Russel Martin probably…
May 26th, 20095:15 pm
McFann :Ô:, 5:09 pm…”Fifth? McCann is freaking FIFTH?? …Grrrrr…cursed eye issue.
I think you meant to say, “Dang your eyes!”
I just flossed my teeth really well. I got out a lot of little pieces of last nights barbecue. I made a little pile of these bits on the bathroom counter.
Can I trade them for Jeff Francoeur?
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
May 26th, 20095:16 pm
You mean Carlos Lee for some batting practice baseballs isn’t a viable rumor?
Looks like the bloggers have duped me again…….
For what it’s worth, I’d be on the Brad Hawpe bandwagon as well. Solid player, and I don’t think there is such a thing as a “coors field product” anymore. The humidore has really cut down on a lot of the offense in that park.
Ah-HA! I forgot Ivan was in this league now!
Top five vote-getters in the catching department:
1. Yadier Molina—-Cardinals—-451,368
2. Jason Kendall—-Brewers—-383,773
3. Ivan Rodriguez—-Astros—-292,496
4. Russell Martin—-Dodgers—-261,917
5. Brian McCann—-Braves—-227,564
At least Kendall is getting some consideration. But dangit…Martin is ahead of McCann? Arg…They need to not start the voting so freaking early. April? Come on!
Chief Nock A Homa
May 26th, 20095:17 pm
How about talking to the Reds about Micah Owings???
Not to bring in another pitcher, but convert him to the outfield… He has been struggling with his pitching for quite a while, after an incredible start, but dude can flat out rake….
He’s from the ATL originally, and kills when he has played here… And, he’s only making $420K….
The guy is a natural hitter, has plenty of pop, and has played the outfield plenty throughout his career, from high school to college, and, he’s got to be thinking about it himself – every team has always said they feel like they are giving up too big of a bat having him pitch… He’s even used as a primary pinch hitter in games…
Maybe send Frenchy their way??? And, maybe throw in someone like Jo Jo to fill the need for a fifth for the Reds??
If it worked, it would be genius! And, Frank Wren begins to cement his place in the ATL GM legacy line of shrewd maneuvering, wouldn’t you have to say??!
And, if not, he can’t be worse than what’s taking place now…
May 26th, 20095:18 pm
DOB..is Tori Hunter available/
May 26th, 20095:19 pm
Yep. Martin is there, all right–fourth. Clint Hurdle must be on there constantly.
Well, no…I didn’t quite mean it that way, I uh…it slipped out…
Frank Wren has the brain of a ... wren
May 26th, 20095:20 pm
How about this – Frank Wren signs an elephant to play right field. The elephant plays for peanuts. If it works out, then Wren will reall be aa genius.
The four ahead of Mac are Yadier, Jason Kendall,Pudge and Martin (in that order).
Kinda surprised by that list but its early yet. Besides Mac gets noticed enough that he will find a way in. Dont worry.
May 26th, 20095:22 pm
Saw you already got it Mcfann.
How about this – Hank Aaron in right field. Give him some HGH and he’s ready to go again. He’d be another Barry Bonds! This could be Wren’s all time maneuver.
May 26th, 20095:23 pm
Seems like Owings is set on being a pitcher so I’m guessing it will take a lot of convincing for him to convert. Not saying it won’t happen eventually but I think it will be several years at least. Or may not happen unless he suffers some sort of injury. As long as teams give him a spot as a pitcher and he wants to pitch, he’ll pitch.
Also, we really don’t know how good he is. Could he be a good enough hitter to play first or DH or possibly corner-outfield (which I’m guessing are the only positions he could play defensively) everyday in the majors? Maybe he’s that good a hitter and maybe it’s worth giving it a shot eventually, but no one really knows.
May 26th, 20095:24 pm
VOTE FOR MAC And CHIPPER ALL STAR GAME STL-09 noooooW!!! 2
LOL at everyone available DOB….
My vote is for Hawpe.
Then we can get a group of hearty hopped beer cans – such as an IPA – gather in the outfield and be Hawpes’ Hops.
May 26th, 20095:25 pm
Scott Hairston would be a great pickup, he only make a lil over a mil, hes hitting .333 5hr 20rbi, and he was platooning early on with jody gerut before the pads traded gerut, im sure he could be had for cheap
CB, 4:58 pm…”if he was out MAC should have thrown a Yogi Berra fit. I thought he looked out also but neither BMac or Bobby argued.”
From the picture, which gives you an “umpire’s eye” view, he was out. From the 1000 different angles shown on the TV, in excruciating slo-mo, he was also out, unless you have poor vision and no corrective eye-wear.
However, BMac was interfered with twice in throwing to second, once deliberately (in my opinion). On the first interference, BMac discussed the non-call with the home plate ump.
I think both BMac and Bobby conceded that further argument might net them even more missed calls.
Did this umpire also blow the Hamels non-interference call that cost the Braves a Philthies’ game?
I also don’t think Chipper’s public statements over the blown call in NY on Beltran’s steal of third have helped the Braves reputation with the umps.
Maybe ESPN is paying off the umpires. If not for those blown calls in Philly and NY, the Braves would be leading the division.
You know whats most aggravating about the all star voting?
Manny is 4th currently on the outfielders list. He would’ve completed his suspension by then. But still… what does he have to do to get off the list – strangle Bud Selig’s pet on national TV?
frenchy is the braves vince young
Frank Wren has the brain…
Dude – the blog about Micah Owings wasn’t about making Frank Wren to be a genius… It was a thought on what might be a pretty good move outside the box to get the Braves some outfield pop…
Just a side comment that it would make Wren look pretty good at the same time…
How about some constructive comment about bringing Owings in??? Are you able to comment on that, or are you too worked up with ideas about Hank Aaron that don’t bring anything relevant to the blog????
Frank Wrens brilliant plan. Put an auxiliary fence running from the midpoint of the centerfield fence to the foul line just behind third base. Voila – no more right field. No need for a right fielder.
Just play another infielder. We have a bunch of those.
May 26th, 20095:26 pm
frenchy is the braves vince young. good athletics got them this far but not enough brains to make it at the highest level
Saw on Mlbtraderumors that The Red Sox have an eye on Francoeur. Does anyone know what level of interest they have for him…?
DOB_How about Gary Matthews, Jr as an outfielder? Isn’t he a man without a outfield position these days?
May 26th, 20095:27 pm
Anybody tired of the Kincaide Phillies show on 680? All he does is pump how great the Phillies are even though they have the worst pitching in the NL right now. Only in Atlanta lol
May 26th, 20095:28 pm
From what I understand, Owings is open… It’s primarily been the teams who have decided to keep him pitching, but… you never know…
Like I said, just a thought outside the box… If it works, it’d be great… If not, can’t be worse than what we’ve got right now…
“Chief Nock a Homa” is demeaning to Native Americans.
I was a little shocked by that list, too. At least the fans are smart enough to not have Grove in the top five…no offense to Grove, just sayin’…
Besides Mac gets noticed enough that he will find a way in.
He gets noticed by the players…the fans don’t seem to pay much attention. That’s why, even last year, he was a reserve (and a reserve in the extreme sense. Clint reserved him as long as he possibly could…). IMHO he shoulda started in ‘06, too.
But yeah, ya never know. Just gotta keep givin’ him support. Don’t tell DirtyDawg, but I’ve voted for him over 50 times, and I’m not stoppin’ till July 2nd!
May 26th, 20095:29 pm
I also believe in the Coors Field Factor regarding Hawpe…He makes too much money for my liking, 12MM/Year thru 2010…I say No to that…
May 26th, 20095:30 pm
I think the most realistic option in dealing Francoeur is in exchange for a minor leaguer from the Royals such as LHP, Daniel Cortes (ranked 90th by Baseball America) or at best 1B, Eric Hosmer (ranked 24th by BA). At least then we would have another chip to deal for a starting OF this year a la Matt Holliday.
How about Jo Jo Reyes for Xavier Nady? They’re both on the DL, so it won’t really affect anybody.
And Jo Jo out to thrive in New York. Don’t they need pitching?
May 26th, 20095:31 pm
When things get so bad that just to have an adequate outfielder people are proposing that we trade for a pitcher and convert him we have big big problems.
Something needs to be done NOW! K-Fer and Francoeur are Killing this Team “No Diggidity!”,”No Doubt!”
Since Gary Matthews Jr got off the HGH/Roids his production went to the toilet. I say Hell No to that proposal
McCanns Cans and Hawpes Hops!
Is that really you “Frank Wren has the brain of a … Wren” hiding behind a new name on the blog ????
Come on, don’t change personalities on us now…
May 26th, 20095:32 pm
However, Something needs to be done NOW! K-Fer and Francoeur are Killing this Team…
Steve from OH
Eric Hosmer for Francoeur? Dayton Moore would be shot!
May 26th, 20095:33 pm
If the Royals traded a Baseball America Top 100 prospect for Jeff Francoeur, Dayton Moore would be escorted out of his office by security.
I wonder if this will work….
I was trying to be nice this time, Steve.
May 26th, 20095:34 pm
Don’t you think things are in pretty desperate measure in the outfield???
And, when you don’t want to give up your farm to get a name, you think outside the box… the pitcher is an outfielder/pitcher all through his career and holds the GA state record for bombs in high school… The guy can play…
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
Sign Jim Edmonds as a stop-gap in CF so the team can get productive AB’s from the #8 hole and he can still play very solid D with pop in his bat. He will sign for the league minimum and give Jordan some AAA time and tutor him on how to be the best CF’er of his era. No brainer to me, no brainer. You upgrade the team by the end of the week and don’t give up anybody!!!
THEN you worry about acquiring a Holliday, Hawpe etc… Having guaranteed K’s in your #8/#9 80% of the time with Francoeur batting 7th is out of control!!!!
May 26th, 20095:35 pm
Gayle, 4:12 pm
You speak so little these days – guess you’ve given up
I’m still a fan – your comments are always dead on!
I have no opinion about Micah Owings. Maybe he can be another Dunn. But it would be a real gamble. He would have to spend a year in AAA.
I just can’t stand Frank Wren. He is not brilliant. He is a bumbling fool.
Hell No to Gary Matthews…Since he got busted for HGH/Steroid use his production has went to the toilet…He will be overpaid deadweight the Halos have to carry around when V. Guerrero gets back…
May 26th, 20095:36 pm
Wow! It did work. By the way, that’s the top 5 catchers numbers so far.
Well, I don’t think they would really shoot him, Chop Chop…
Rob from SC
Heyward goes 3-4 today and raised his average to .295
May 26th, 20095:37 pm
Chief Nock I am definitely not saying things aren’t bad, real bad. I am just saying it is sad when converting a major leaguer during the season is an alternative to what we have. I haven’t heard any great ideas I will admit. I still think our biggest problem is in CF.
May 26th, 20095:38 pm
Has anyone considered it might be time for a new hitting coach? How many players have had hitting declines over the past few years, TP’s ability to impact their approach seems to have run its course.
Roman Gal–looks like the voting process is working well, huh?
Frank Wren has the brain of a… Wren
Understood, thanks for the clarification…
Wow, Joe Mauer’s stats are sick. Where did he develop that kind of power. In this day of baseball you have to wonder.
The Braves should change their name to the “Caucasian Cowards”.
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