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Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
3:32 pm
Oh, you mean when he hit .317/.404/.615? Or how he hit .476/.577/.1333 (1.910 OPS) with 2 outs/RISP? Like I said, gimme a break. He in no way was responsible for us losing, is in no way not clutch, and deserves a lot more respect from negative posters like you. Did I mention he plays awesome defense?
Why doesn’t making fun of Chris Woodward for sucking appeal more to you? Daniel Cabrera? I mean, there are literally hundreds of baseball players worse than Tex and you single him out? What else can I say about that?
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
3:32 pm
Scoots, that wasn’t Braveheart under a different moniker …. not Willy Wally either.
My apologies, then, LOL. You’ll note that I qualified it with a “probably”!
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
3:32 pm
Couch Tater–
Thanks for the link! I’ll look through those and see if they have the same one.
Give Me A Break
May 27th, 2009
3:33 pm
ncscoots “Sounds like the highbrow club would be more comfortable with “War and Peace” where the rest of us struggle to get through TV Guide.
Aiming a little high for “the rest of us”, aren’t you, speedy?
Nahh scoots, I know my limitations. I would rather have limitations than to be pretentious about my lack of them like some I’ve seen here.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
3:34 pm
I’ll admit that Schafer could use some time in AAA. The question is who do you bring up? You almost have to bring up Blanco to play center and he’s not doing so great. You might consider bringing up Jones. I can’t imagine watching somebody like Jones or *shudder* Diaz play center.
I suppose you could stick Jones in RF and shift Frenchy into center. The problem with that is that Frenchy shows no sign of having range out there in the outfield. He has a cannon for an arm but you never see him get to anything just outside his range.
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 27th, 2009
3:35 pm
Now N8 i remember when u blogged ingame….
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 27th, 2009
3:36 pm
as the ever pessismist nathan
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:37 pm
Man U look as slow as a wet week in Des Moines today. I dunno who I dislike more, them are Barcelona (for anyone watching EUFA)……..
I would pray that just once, just once, we light up a superstar pitcher at the height of his powers……… we just do not produce against the real guns consistently
Ronald Millsaps
May 27th, 2009
3:38 pm
There are a lot of folks ready to concede the season in late May, but this reality isn’t a surprise in a microwave culture, where people want solutions as fast as e-mails are sent.
FACT: This team has the talent to win it all. (Many would dispute this statement, but it’s true.)
FICTION: This team’s approach leads to optimal return.
FACT: We don’t need to make a trade.
FACT: We need to revamp the lineup and see where guys are best suited to help this team.
FACT: Kelly Johnson has proven from 2007-present that he helps the team more–a LOT more–lower in the order but seldom gets a chance to contribute when and where need be. He bats leadoff and gets sporadic off-days and has produced very well when given consistent opportunities to bat lower in the order.
Let Schafer bat leadoff or in the “two” hole. Have Kelly bat eighth, Chipper third, Francoeur fourth, and McCann fifth.
Don’t trade anyone–as doing so is not the answer. Make ADJUSTMENTS! If there’s progression, keep with them. If there’s regression, try something else immediately. I’m frustrated because a lot of Plan As haven’t worked, and even modifications–such as Schafer’s shortened swing–took a while to arrive. I’m not seeing a sense of urgency or a legitimate offensive-formula pursuit.
Chipper-3; Francoeur-4; McCann-5; Johnson-8. Do it. Just trust me; do it!!!!!
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
3:38 pm
I would rather have limitations than to be pretentious about my lack of them like some I’ve seen here.
I’m arrogant and condescending, but never pretentious. There’s nothing about any attitude that I carry that could be called “unjustified”.
N8
May 27th, 2009
3:39 pm
T-Paul, check out Tex’s numbers (along with the rest of the Yankees, and the rest of the AL) numbers at the new Yankee Stadium, compared to the road.
Tex at home: 23 games, .331 BA, 10 HR, 26 RBI, .725 SLG, 1.139 OPS.
Text on road: 20 games, .200 BA, 4 HR, 11 RBI, .413 SLG, .761 OPS.
That place is Coors East.
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:39 pm
Bravsfan – Froggy is slower than the aforementioned “wet week in Des Moines”, no way he can hold down CF
plus he cannot hit his way out of a wet paper bag
braves70
May 27th, 2009
3:39 pm
A AAA Player I would like for the Braves to take a look at is OF Wilkin Ramirez of Toledo (AAA Tigers). He leads the IL in SB with 17, has hit 5 HR (plus 1 with Detroit), and is hitting .295.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 27th, 2009
3:39 pm
Shuan, I appreciate the comments. but there are non-Braves fans who would argue the point of whether or not Tommy Hanson is the best pitching prospect. David Price seems to be that guy, and only time will tell the rest of the story
Tommy Hanson , POTENTIAL….. ACE. Adrian Gonzalez, proven big league gold glove all-star 1st sacker. We as Braves have the habit of looking through rose colored glasses sometimes.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
3:39 pm
Steve-
Cmon now….why would I even waste the typing w/ the name of Woodward….shouldn’t you have went w/ Pete Orr or Ryan Langerhans?!
Besides you being a douche, you may have wanted to scroll back a few pages to notice that I in fact wasn’t the person who singled out Tex…there were quite a few posts before I even commented…
In Ohio, an unidentified man in his late twenties walked into a police station with a 9-inch wire protruding from his forehead and calmly asked officers to give him an X-ray to help him find his brain,which he claimed had been stolen. Police were shocked to learn that the man had drilled a 6-inch deep hole in his skull with a Black & Decker power drill and had stuck the wire in to try and find the missing brain.
A relative of yours I assume….
Steve
May 27th, 2009
3:40 pm
Enter your comments here
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:41 pm
N8 – I saw AFRAUD hit a routine pop up that went out the other night at Babe II, the place is a joke and the Yankees are quite worried about it
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
3:42 pm
P-Town Brave -
The Rockies are probably looking for what every other team is looking for- young arms. The Braves have quite a few of them. Maybe Morton and Jo-Jo could go, along with a Gorkys or another near-ready outfielder? It’s clear that there will soon be no room at all for a Morton or Reyes. Medlen and Hanson are coming- and will stay for a long time. We have Lowe, Hudson, Kawakami and Vazquez. Why on earth would we need to keep like a dozen young arms around. The Braves need to do what all good front offices do, which is deal from an area of stregnth and depth (Braves have lots of young arms)to shore up an area of weakness (Braves outfield pretty much is the worst in all of baseball). Pony up the arms, Braves. If not for Hawpe, then for another good, consistent OF who won’t break the bank.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
3:42 pm
dogsbrekky-
If we could send Blanco there and he were to go yard, then I’d really be worried!
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
3:42 pm
Yeah, it’s easy to call someone a douche when they completely destroy your argument with, you know, facts. Try to find a better comeback next time, mmmk? Maybe some legit information? Or maybe you could “think” with your “brain” before you post? You know, so that you don’t say silly things to begin with?
Shaun
May 27th, 2009
3:44 pm
Give Me A Break, Salty had plenty of years in the minor under his belt. I guarantee you many folks in the Braves organization knew what Salty was capable of. Why does a player have to get a shot in the majors in order for anyone to know what he’s capable of? In that case, maybe the Braves should bring up anyone hitting .200 in Double-A to see what they are capable of; if that’s the only way to find out.
I agree with you, if a guy can hit better than most guys in the majors he can play anywhere. But if a guy can only hit better than 80 percent of the catchers in the big leagues, that doesn’t mean he can play anywhere especially not firstbase.
You still seem to be missing the point. Yes, if Salty could hit like say Carlos Pena, he could play anywhere. But if a guy can only hit like say Ramon Hernandez, he fields like Ramon Hernandez and you put him at first; then he’s Adam LaRoche or Casey Kotchman with bad defense.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
3:44 pm
Hey, I didn’t see the earlier post. Haven’t caught up on the reading because I’m a busy guy. But you said it, so be prepared to be held accountable for what you write.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
3:44 pm
Steve from OH
You crack me up, man. You’re one sly fellow…always sneaking in GA disses. It’s great.
P-Town Brave
May 27th, 2009
3:45 pm
redstick-
OK, so send them JoJo/Morton/Kelly and Canizares (Helton getting old) for Hawpe and a low-level prospect…
I can’t see them really wanting Gorkys w/ Fowler out there nor would I want to give him up….at some point, I’d like to see the Braves think about moving Schafer to LF to accomodate Gorkys for CF as we all know RF is being groomed for Heyward.
CB
May 27th, 2009
3:45 pm
excellent post Redstick19
Cameron
May 27th, 2009
3:46 pm
braves70:
Say the Braves send Schafer to AAA, who plays CF for us? Blanco? He is hitting as bad as Sschafer IN AAA! If there was another option, it would have probably already been used/explored.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
3:46 pm
Jeff R
How many bases has Schafer stolen?
No offense, but how in the heck is he supposed to steal a lot of bases hitting in the 8th spot where when he does get on base, the pitcher is bunting him over. Next.
Shaun
May 27th, 2009
3:47 pm
“Tommy Hanson , POTENTIAL….. ACE. Adrian Gonzalez, proven big league gold glove all-star 1st sacker. We as Braves have the habit of looking through rose colored glasses sometimes.”
Right, but if my team is likely to finish as one of the worst in the league, I’ll take the POTENTIAL ace for a 27-year-old firstbaseman who I’m going to have to pay more to over the next few years then lose to free agency.
Efrim
May 27th, 2009
3:47 pm
“Efrim, would a Francoeur-for-Reddick deal make sense for the Sawx?”
Steve from OH, no, I don’t think so. But someone has to give up something for Francoeur. Just not sure if the Red Sox would part with that kid. Bay is a free agent after this season, so they may be reluctant to part with him for someone that has underachieved like Francoeur.
Capt Caveman
May 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
OH YEAH, this is just what the blog needs, another idiotic trade format from COACH who will then turn around with the same post and say that it wont happen.
This trade Hanson perspective from the same guy who brought us NORTON !!
As the Master once said — “who is the bigger fool, the FOOL, or the FOOL who follows him !!”
Or as my Grandfather would say — “arguing with an idiot is like peeing into the wind, you make think it necessary at the time, but usually in midcourse you realize it was a mistake”
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
3:48 pm
Efrim, but don’t you think the Sox have every intention of keeping Bay? I agree that I’m shooting a little high with Reddick, though. I guess my thinking is that they’re both (or were, in Frenchy’s case) similar players…
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:49 pm
Anyone who watches the G-Braves……… Does Hanson still have control/walk issues?
I am sorry to see that the little dog has been lit up in 2 MLB starts but that may be a great karmic sign as Schafer was a gun for 2 starts and then slid like truffles through a pig………
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
3:49 pm
Schafer
KJ
Bmac
Frenchy
Chipper
Anderson
Kotch
Hernandez
Pitcher
Go with that. It’ll either work or be an epic failure. Should be fun to watch either way.
Seriously though, shaking up the lineup again might be just what this team needs.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
3:49 pm
Turtsnap, Nicholson (or the guy who wrote the script) probably would have spelled it correctly.
Steve
May 27th, 2009
3:50 pm
Does anyone get the feeling things are going to get really really bad…very soon??? If not…just check out our June schedule! HELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP
DAP
May 27th, 2009
3:51 pm
ron millsapps can we make adjustments AND a trade? cause unlike you, i think we lack the talent to win it all. in the hitting dept.
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:51 pm
Barcelona are making those pissants from ManU look 3rd rate………. oh there is a god !
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
3:52 pm
P-Town –
good point about Fowler. Didn’t consider that before I wrote. On a similar note, can’t see Colorado wanting Kelly for same reason- Rockies have a ton of middle infielders… unless a Barmes or someone like him would come to Atlanta along with Hawpe in the deal. We could talk all day about who could go either way- but the main point here is that I think the Braves and Rockies are a good fit for a trade. They have an OF surplus and we have a young arms surplus. The names are interchangable.
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
Cameron: It’s amazing how some people advocate dumping guys to Triple-A without bothering to suggest who might replace them. As you pointed out, Blanco in Triple-A is hitting for about the same average as Schafer in the majors.
The Braves don’t have Josh Anderson, and don’t even have Omar Infante RIGHT NOW. They have no one else to step in and play CF, unless you look at the numbers produced by Blanco, Barton or Gorecki at Triple-A and believe they’re ready to take over. Or maybe those who’ve criticized the Braves for “rushing” Schafer to the majors would now like to rush Gorkys Hernandez up here, too, with less than a half-season above the A-ball level?
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
When does Holliday become a FA
and Halladay for that matter as well ??
GT08
May 27th, 2009
3:54 pm
Barca needs to capitalize on these huge opportunities!!!
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
3:55 pm
Turtsnap, Nicholson (or the guy who wrote the script) probably would have spelled it correctly.
Dry, but with an excellent nose, LOL. I’ll have a glass, bartender.
Shaun
May 27th, 2009
3:56 pm
I see folks still want to get rid of Kelly Johnson, a 27-year-old .270/.352 /.438 career hitter who makes well under what players with similar potential make.
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:56 pm
GT08 – as a Chelskeeeeeeeeeeee fan I have mixed emotions, but it should be 3-0
Efrim
May 27th, 2009
3:58 pm
Steve from OH, I’m not so sure it is a certainty that they keep Bay. They will try. But the Yankees have quite a bit of money coming off the books, and I think Bay has the edge over Holliday as the most coveted free agent hitter.
dogsbrekky
May 27th, 2009
3:58 pm
Schafer – I havent seen many of the last 12-15 games, but is the CF still fielding well ?
If so, we should maybe rely on the mega-star at LF to hit and also the dude at RF (who thinks he is a megastar) and worry about the kid mid-year …….. yes/no, thoughts anyone ??
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
Obviously nothing can be done about Schafer but something can be done about Garret Anderson and Jeff Francoeur.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:00 pm
That’s true. But I don’t think they really want to use Reddick as an everyday OF next year, either. Either way, he may be too much for Francoeur, but I don’t see too much of a match elsewhere in their minor league system…well, no one that really excites me, anyway.
Roman Gal, I dissed GA? When?
GT08
May 27th, 2009
4:01 pm
I agree, Henry missed a glorious opportunity and the set play was inches from the net…..I must admit tho, my hatred for Man U is what provokes my Barca support, I’m a true Liverpool supporter
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 27th, 2009
4:02 pm
Enter your comments here
Efrim
May 27th, 2009
4:02 pm
“I see folks still want to get rid of Kelly Johnson, a 27-year-old .270/.352 /.438 career hitter who makes well under what players with similar potential make.”
Shaun, you have been gone a while(welcome back, by the way), but myself, Steve from Ohio and ncscoots have been saying the same thing you just said since the start of the season.
Bravesfan
May 27th, 2009
4:03 pm
I think Schafer is improving and will continue to improve (obviously). Whether he’ll start being productive today, next month or next season remains to be seen. We might as well stick with him and see what he can do.
Efrim
May 27th, 2009
4:03 pm
Steve from OH, did you see Law’s mock draft, by the way. Of course, he had the Braves taking Wheeler at #7. Fine by me.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
4:04 pm
but it looks like the mets have a 71% chance of making the playoffs
I’m going with the dog on this one.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
Yeah I posted something last night, I think, before I left the blog to implode with all the negative posts. I was really surprised to see Borchering going fourth, and Miller dropping all the way to 13th…but, different teams, different needs, I guess. I think they think that Miller, Matzek and Wheeler are all pretty close, but they like Wheeler’s signability.
jtb
May 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
Has anyone else noticed how much better KJ’s defense has been this year? He is on pace for about 6 fewer errors and in the past week I’ve seen him make quite a few plays that he struggled with the past 2 years. He has also only dropped 1 or 2 double play balls which sadly is a huge improvement.
Jeff R
May 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
So, Shaun, what do we have to show for Super Tex? Part of two seasons, the last of which was the Braves worst season since 1990?
How would you rate Salty’s stroke versus Kotchman’s? Kotchman is a fine defensive fielder and is hitting for average, but would Salty have provided more pop at that corner?
And wouldn’t it have been better to hold Salty to the 2007 off-season and see what the market could have commanded?
Andrus has been well rated throughout his minor league career. So far, he’s doing a solid job with the Rangers. Of course, no one knows for sure how well he’ll do in the coming years. Did anyone know that Frenchy would nose-dive?
What about Chipper? Five years ago, did anyone think he was an injury waiting to happen?
I’d say Harrison and Perez are solid acquisitions with a lot of upside.
Oh, and did I mention that we have Kotchman?
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
4:06 pm
Is it just me, or is Andruw Jones the last guy to come from our minors and do well? It seems we are snakebitten in that category for the last 5 or 7 years. Are we bringing them up too soon, or are our minor league coaches just not preparing these guys from a mental aspect for the big leagues? Maybe the problem isn’t the players- maybe it’s the leadership in the organization? Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?
MGL
May 27th, 2009
4:07 pm
“I see folks still want to get rid of Kelly Johnson, a 27-year-old .270/.352 /.438 career hitter who makes well under what players with similar potential make.”
Well Shaun, they think he is streaky, and Prado with his .209 Avg in May is such a better player.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:08 pm
I think that I would release GA Steve from OH
Ok…so I guess dissed was the wrong word.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Yeah jtb, I think he’s gotten better. And his UZR right now is 2.9, projecting out to around 10 runs above average/150…
Dooley
May 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Let’s put a moratorium on arguing about players who haven’t been in our organization for a couple of years now (you know which ones I’m referring to). “It’s like the Sopranos… It’s OVER. Get a new show” – To quote Forgetting Sarah Marshall.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
4:09 pm
Ncscoots,
I would take prices 2 er in his first start over either of Medlen starts. I saw Price pitch in person at the trop to clinch the ALCS.(DOMINATING STUFF) Weiters you just assume he will tank? As for Fox these are his numbers:
BA= .423
OBP= .500
OPS= 1.389
HR= 17
Thats my point with great numbers you make room for him even if he doesnt have a spot yet.
Our 5th starters stats:
W-L = 0-4
IP = 35.1
ER = 30
BB = 20
ERA = 7.69
Thats why you bring up Hanson yesterday.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:10 pm
I see folks still want to get rid of Kelly Johnson, a 27-year-old .270/.352 /.438 career hitter who makes well under what players with similar potential make. Shaun
Nobody important thinks that.
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
4:10 pm
jtb Has anyone else noticed how much better KJ’s defense has been this year?
Yep. Now McCann is the new whipping boy.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:10 pm
Roman Gal…oh, yeah. Thanks for refreshing my memory!
But seriously, I’m not a huge GA fan. Never was.
DAP
May 27th, 2009
4:11 pm
restick19
have you ever heard of a guy named brian mccann?
David O'Brien
May 27th, 2009
4:12 pm
Is it just me, or is Andruw Jones the last guy to come from our minors and do well? – Redstick19
I don’t know, this kid McCann hasn’t been too bad, has he? Three-time All-Star, two Silver Slugger awards in his first three full seasons in the majors. Yeah, he’s decent.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:13 pm
Ok, I’m being rude now. That’s probably my cue to leave.
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:14 pm
Ok, I’m being rude now. That’s probably my cue to leave.
But all the cool kids are doing it!
McFann Ô
May 27th, 2009
4:15 pm
Restick19–
Yeah, I think it’s just you. There is a three-time All-Star (hopefully four-time soon), two-time Silver Slugger on our team right now, don’t know if you knew that. He’s a product of our farm. His name is Brian McCann. I’m sure you’ve heard of him…
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:15 pm
Any ball not hit within 5 to 10 feet of GA is a double or a triple. Any ball hit 10-15 feet in front of him is an automatic single.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:15 pm
Steve from OH,
Haha. I gathered that.
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:17 pm
But all the cool kids are doing it!
Peer pressure has no effect on me, mister. Why do you think I’m still a Braves fan?
CB
May 27th, 2009
4:17 pm
Steve – GA better hope Tim Hudson is not pitching when he does one of those lackadaisical trots in the outfield- there may be murder on the field.
N8
May 27th, 2009
4:17 pm
Shaun, it’s not about what KJ can do, and at what cost (believe me, I’m aware that he is above average with the stick – and below average with the salary).
But it IS about what all three outfielders CAN’T do (right now). Which is hit. You’re two corner outfield spots are supposed to provide power and produce runs. They are not.
So if a deal can be centered around KJ (who other team’s would want for the same reasons you suggest keeping him), and be willing to give us a higher priced OF who IS capable of providing the power we are lacking. It would be a wise move (if the team is serious about winning THIS YEAR).
It’s more about KJ being our best (most logical) trade chip that is major league ready. Escobar would net us more, but I have ZERO interest in him going away. Didn’t for Peavy. Don’t even more for a bat.
However, if the Braves aren’t concerned about making the playoffs this year, then by all means you keep KJ and make trades in the off-season, when guys’ trade values should increase (or decrease in the case of guys like Francoeur – with tumbling stats).
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:19 pm
Roman Gal – You mean you aren’t one of those fans that conveniently went out and bought a Red Sox hat after they got better a few years back.
"The balls are bigger and slicker here," -Kawakami
May 27th, 2009
4:20 pm
Now, MFin04, I am no mathematician or statistician…but if everything hit outside of five to fifteen feet from GA is a double and a triple, how is everything ten to fifteen feet in front of him a single? This is quite a paradox.
What if the ball goes 30 feet away from him over the fence? Is it a homerun or a double/triple/single?? I need more time with this equation.
N8
May 27th, 2009
4:20 pm
“I don’t know, this kid McCann hasn’t been too bad, has he? Three-time All-Star, two Silver Slugger awards in his first three full seasons in the majors. Yeah, he’s decent.” DOB
Or that kid named Escobar. Or even KJ. Huh? Elvis Andrus seems to be OK. Salty has as many HR as our HR leader (KJ) does. Wainwright seems to be doing just fine.
I may post some silly things some times, and type before I think. But that’s just ridiculous.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
4:20 pm
Redstick-
Jason Schmidt(96), Jermaine Dye(96), Adam Wainwright is the only other one. I do agree we havent had great success in developing stars besides McCann as of late.
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:21 pm
One of them is to his left/right. One is straight in front of him.
I'm in love with Jordan O-Fer
May 27th, 2009
4:21 pm
Or maybe those who’ve criticized the Braves for “rushing” Schafer to the majors would now like to rush Gorkys Hernandez up here, too, with less than a half-season above the A-ball level?
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
4:22 pm
Hopefully Escobar will be the next maybe Hanson
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
4:22 pm
Good grief. It’s not a matter of whether Fox, Price, or Wieters will be good players at some point. It’s the unrealistic expectation that a rookie, any rookie, is going to be lights-out-like-a-five-year-vet from the get-go. I don’t care how much you tell a rook that “it’s the same ball, the same field, the same game”, the rook doesn’t believe it. And won’t, until he finds it out for himself. Some kids take longer to come to that realization, some never do. Hanson will be no different, and I guarantee that some posters here will crucify the kid when he has a couple of “learning experiences”.
Why? Because we have plenty of idiot posters here who confuse short-term results with ability. Probably because they never had ability themselves, and are thus unfamiliar with the creature.
RHR
May 27th, 2009
4:23 pm
dogsbrekky @ 3:58
Agree. Schafer’s rookie numbers are only so glaring because the majority of the lineup is putting up similar (or in Frenchy’s case WORSE) numbers. He’s more patient at the plate than a third of the lineup and is better than either of the veteran outfielders with the glove. IMO he is the last one in the regular lineup who should be getting flack.
Great B C
May 27th, 2009
4:23 pm
Solution to all Braves Problems
NEW MANAGEMENT – TOP TO BOTTOM
Roman Gal
May 27th, 2009
4:26 pm
Baseball America
Don’t think anyone’s posted this. It’s an article about Heyward, Freeman, and Johnson tearin’ it up in Myrtle Beach.
Redstick19
May 27th, 2009
4:26 pm
OK, OK… I deserve that. I totally overlooked McCann. I still stand by my point that we don’t have many players coming up and hitting gangbusters, but you guys sure called me out on Brian. I’ll admit when I miss on something- and missing Mac is a huge one on my part.
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:26 pm
“it’s the same ball, the same field, the same game”,
Apparently it isnt the same ball, its not the same field, and it’s probably not even the same game so to speak since there is so much money and winning on the line.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
4:27 pm
Nscoots,
Once again you missed my pint we dont need the 2009 version on T. Lincecum. We need a guy that doesnt do this:
Our 5th starters stats:
W-L = 0-4
IP = 35.1
ER = 30
BB = 20
ERA = 7.69
Shaun
May 27th, 2009
4:28 pm
“What do we have to show for Super Tex? Part of two seasons, the last of which was the Braves worst season since 1990?”
We had one of the best firstbasemen in the game for what may have been his best stretch of 150 games of his career. Not his fault that the rest of the team and/or the front office didn’t step up and/or injuries ruined their chances.
“How would you rate Salty’s stroke versus Kotchman’s? Kotchman is a fine defensive fielder and is hitting for average, but would Salty have provided more pop at that corner?”
Well, in hindsight it’s clear Salty wouldn’t have provided more pop. He’s slugging .415 playing home games in Texas. He didn’t have *great* power in the minors so I don’t think we should be that surprised, either.
“And wouldn’t it have been better to hold Salty to the 2007 off-season and see what the market could have commanded?”
Possibly. I think this is the best argument against the Tex trade; maybe the Braves could have got a quality player around the same age as Salty for Salty.
“Andrus has been well rated throughout his minor league career. So far, he’s doing a solid job with the Rangers. Of course, no one knows for sure how well he’ll do in the coming years. Did anyone know that Frenchy would nose-dive?”
Andrus is playing adequately and has the potential to be pretty good, although his minor league BB/K ratio indicate he may not be a great hitter in the majors. I see him as an Escobar type possibly with a little more power.
I’m not sure what you mean by nose-dive. Frenchy’s only solid year was when he came up in 2005. The next year he was at .260/.293/.449. He should have gone down to the minors at some point during the 2006 season but people were too enamored with his RBI total instead of paying attention to what he actually did on the field which was make lots of outs and hit for average power (and they call me a stat head). To answer your question, people should have known what kind of player Francoeur was in 2006.
“What about Chipper? Five years ago, did anyone think he was an injury waiting to happen?”
Five years ago, at 32, Chipper played in 137 games. I’m not sure if anyone thought he was an injury waiting to happen. But I think most baseball people realize that there are injury risks with players in their late 30s.
Regarding Harrison, he’s not as great a prospect as many think. He struck out 6.4 batters per 9 innings. He’s probably a middle-of-the-rotation type. Very valuable guy but he’s far from Hanson or even a guy like Jurrjens when he was in the minors.
Not Easily Dazzled
May 27th, 2009
4:28 pm
I see folks still want to get rid of Kelly Johnson, a 27-year-old .270/.352 /.438 career hitter who makes well under what players with similar potential make.
Bunch of wussies afraid of fantasy geeks like Shaun and Steve from OH. Well here is a big stinking shinning example of why they are full of crapola!
We’ve all watched Kelly Johnson long enough to know that he’s as hot as hot can be for 6-8 weeks of the seasons and the rest of the time he’s , well closer to Jeffy than those numbers tell you. That’s why we need to get rid of Kelly Johnson, because he’s super-duper offensively for 1.5 -2 months, but is wretched otherwise. And that’s not even mentioning that you know we have to hold our breaths everytime a ball is hit to him. DON’T BE FOOLED! Sometimes you can trust what your eyes tell you about a player.
Mark Twine
May 27th, 2009
4:28 pm
Carlos Zambrano just went CRAAAAAZY in the Cubs game. i only say this because i will put money down that he will be suspended when the cubbies come to town. yay
Steve from OH
May 27th, 2009
4:30 pm
braves70–I’ve seen Ramirez play and I can’t say I was overly impressed with him. He has some pop and runs well but for the life of him he can’t hit a curveball…
The Dude
May 27th, 2009
4:30 pm
DOB, your great man, but stop being a dick.
a643dp
May 27th, 2009
4:30 pm
Mark Twine missed it what did he do?
MFin04
May 27th, 2009
4:31 pm
We are still on Teixeira? He is now 2 teams removed from the Braves, lol. We all just need to let it go. Let it go.
ncscoots
May 27th, 2009
4:32 pm
Sometimes you can trust what your eyes tell you about a player [like Johnson].
I’d suggest you buy a book, take a class, something, because information-by-observation obviously ain’t cuttin’ it for you.
Mark Twine
May 27th, 2009
4:33 pm
a643dp, wild pitch, play at plate, big z thought he taged him out called safe, zambrano then gets in umps face ejects umpire throws ball out to warning track, throws glove toward dugout, then did work on the gatoraide cooloer dispenser in the dugout with a bat. pretty hilaroius
TennesseePaul
May 27th, 2009
4:35 pm
N8: Teixeira is having a blast at NYS but that could change once the old building is completely gone. Other than that, I think he is having a rebirth with A-Rod:
____Split_____ .AVG .OBP .SLG
Season Home___ .371 .450 .843
Season Away___ .198 .339 .396
Home w/ A-Rod_ .462 .523 1.026
Home w/o A-Rod .231 .328 .500
Away W/ A-Rod_ .258 .361 .613
Away w/o A-Rod .159 .351 .273