2:14 pm May 26, 2009, by David O'Brien
May 26th, 20093:17 pm
My favorite thing about the cow is the fact that its choppin’ leg is constantly in “Heil Hitler” position. Every night home game seems like it should have a torchlight parade and some goosestepping Nazis as the entertainment.
Maybe a “Nuremburg Rally Night at the Ted” promotion is in order?
The first 15,000 fans will receive a copy of Mein Kampf.
May 26th, 20093:18 pm
DOB I think I wrote this earlier about McCann, but in case I didn’t: He’s 5-for-9 against Lincecum.
Yeah, with three doubles! Ya know, it’s been two weeks since he hit a double…he’s only got 5…
This time last year, he had like…18 doubles. He was leading the NL!
Ron Roberts, no problem. My other point was that even if he was arb-eligbile next year, why would the Orioles take on Francoeur’s salary?
Steve from OH
May 26th, 20093:19 pm
Efrim, I love F-Mart’s upside as much as the next guy. But why would you bank on it when you can get three guys with only a bit lower upside than him from someone else? Granted, Poreda and Richard aren’t all that and a bag of chips yet, but the Pads were getting two more prospects on top of them, and good ones too, I would think.
When you think about it, they’re not really making out from an on-the-field standpoint, trading an ace for a big bat. They need more pieces to build around, so a one-for-one doesn’t make any sense to me…
Supa, you need to go back and read yesterday’s blog, comments after about 11 p.m. last night. The Heyward situation covered at length.
A for effort. F for execution. At least get the names right. Dang. Morlan? JA? WTH?
May 26th, 20093:20 pm
Ugh…I forgot that Borass was Holliday’s agent… Never mind then. I don’t want Holliday for 4 months…
Now I’d love Ankiel to be roaming our OF as much as anyone but wouldn’t he be just as great a threat to be the strikeout king of RF? 3.00 K/BB but I guess that looks pretty nice compared to Frenchy’s 4.80.
Chop Chop My favorite thing about the cow is the fact that its choppin’ leg is constantly in “Heil Hitler” position.
Haha! Yeah, that’s just wrong.
May 26th, 20093:21 pm
I want a MASHA! Not little overpaid Brian Roberts or guy like that. We have Prado/KJ/Kotchman who all hit like him for the most part, just without the speed. Wren oughta just work on the speed thing in the offseason. And why is it that if something will NEVER happen some of ya’ll keep harping on it? Like that Bal. Adam Jones thing. STOP! think reality.
May 26th, 20093:22 pm
I don’t believe they have the money to add an outfield bat worth having before the trade deadline. Frank Wren has had this issue to deal with the last 2 years and he has chosen mainly not to address it with anyone of consequence. Seriously, they were out there and available the last two years. The first move was to go get Kotsay… that cost Joey Grand Slam Devine and we got around what 2.5 to 3 months out of him. Garrett Anderson was kind of the…oh crap we didn’t do anything else… let’s give him a million bucks and see what he’s got. Is Garrett Anderson somehow better defensively than Adam Dunn? No. Does Adam Dunn Strike out less than Francouer or Schaffer? NO. SO.. what’s the issue with Adam Dunn… they didn’t want to spend the money on Adam Dunn period.
Perhaps this year was the year they address pitching. I don’t see how Frank Wren could survive another year as GM fielding an outfield as anemic as the ones the Braves have trotted out the last 2 years. They haven’t been really good since the 90’s… I’m not sure they have been even sort of adequate the last several years.
I’ve done the OBP, SLG, AVG, OPS thing and some number cruching…and here’s the deal.
Francouer, Vazquez, and a minor league arm or two to Oakland.
Holliday, Carbera to the Braves.
Holliday goes to right field; Cabrera backs up short and second…and Kelly spells Jordan in center occasionally until Infante gets back.
Braves starting staff: Lowe, Jurrjens, Kawakami, Hanson, Medlen/Glavine/Morton/Hudson (when/if available).
May 26th, 20093:23 pm
DOB- that’s cool, I just figured you took a trip to Haight-Ashbury and enjoyed yourself a little too much!
Erik – It’s not that his average is up the last 10 days, It’s that he can’t seem to keep a constant approach from at bat to at bat. Either he uses the early season approach and slaps everything to right with no power or it’s the 08 version of closing your eyes and swinging hard in case you hit the ball. Yesterday with the bases loaded and no outs we got the 08 version and that happens much to often.
Mein Kampf? That was written by Francoeur, right? Not sure why that would be a draw, seeing as how we’ve all had front row tickets to that “struggle” for some time now…
mein kampf—–franceours last year and a half?
May 26th, 20093:24 pm
Thier best option having virtually no money in the budget is to continue to hope that internally they have guys that can get the job done. Pray Heyward is the savior we hope he could be in the Outfield. Maybe Gorkys Hernandez. I don’t know, but they have shown virtually zero interest in finding (paying) a relevant non geriatric Outfield free agent.
May 26th, 20093:27 pm
JJ - Fleming – A for effort. F for execution. At least get the names right. Dang. Morlan? JA? WTH?
JJ on this blog rants don’t require getting names or stats right. Don’t believe me??? Just tune in tonight to the ole blog if things start going bad.
How about Jermaine Dye. Whitesox want a starting pitcher. How about a Jeff Francoeur, and Jo-jo Reyes or Charlie Morton(personaly I think Jo-jo has no trade vaule right now) for Jermaine Dye.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
Javier Vasquez is making 11.5 million. The A’s are a small market team. It’s a match made only in a fantasy league.
You guys remember when Frenchy hit that ball all the way to the kid in Norway or someother Scandinavian country? I bet that kid is pissed right now. Here he thinks he’s caught a ball from a superstar and was holding it to sell on ebay to feed his family… But now, he might only be able to get a KC Royals fleece pullover (like we’re about to get).
May 26th, 20093:30 pm
chi sox probably wont trade dye for awhile. quentin is hurt and dye is their best hitter. they are still in the race. unless they drop way out of it they will almost certainly hang onto dye.
Matt Joyce on Tampa is very appealing, but he’s also a lefty.
Tampa is one team that also has an excess of outfielders. Maybe we could inquire about Ben Zobrist in a KJ/starting pitcher type deal now that Iwamura is out and they’re having problems with Kazmir and a less improved rotation from last season….
May 26th, 20093:31 pm
Anyone know what Holliday and Cabrera’s salaries are this year?
May 26th, 20093:32 pm
I still think the best move for this year, if a trade for a bat is to be made, is to get a player we can contractually control for longer than just this season. That is, unless we can get a rent-a-player fairly cheap (in terms of players or prospects).
In reading the Dayn Perry blog post posted earlier, I think you have to assume that the Phillies and/or Mets will be making a move to strengthen their pitching staffs. Both those teams are in a position to win this year and they will almost certainly go for it.
Not saying the Braves can’t win this year either – it’s just that I think they have to think in terms of a 3-5 year plan rather than a crapshoot in 2009 when it comes to player trades.
May 26th, 20093:33 pm
I think there may be something to the rivalry thing between Mac and Frenchy. I stated earlier today that he (to me) has a tendeny to have a good game, maybe hit a ball deep as he did Sunday and perhaps thinks “I’m seeing the ball better, I’m doing some things right, now I can start swinging for the fences( he really does have a huge desire to be the hero)but of course he isn’t ready and it takes him away from what works. I have said a few times this year that I’m not sure Jeff can be satisfied being a singles/doubles hitter and hit .290, and not a HR hitter.
May 26th, 20093:34 pm
I tend to wonder if and when they will start trying to Platoon Right Field.
Did we give up on the Josh Willingham idea? He’d be an upgrade at either corner, he’s fairly cheap, and he wouldn’t cost any top prospects.
May 26th, 20093:35 pm
What is the status on Escobar? When do you think he will be back playing? Thanks.
Rob from SC
Adam Jones and Nick Markakis are not getting traded. Neither is Matt Kemp or any other young stud Outfielder. Teams want to trade older more expensive players.
so is it just me and coach on the brad hawpe wagon?
May 26th, 20093:36 pm
cvbraves, look it up.
May 26th, 20093:37 pm
That’s pretty funny, however, a KC fleece pullover would sell for about $50. I’m not so sure the kid could get more than $30 for that ball right now.
For now DAP, but just wait, it’s gonna get crowded.
May 26th, 20093:38 pm
I like Hawpe too, DAP. Not too sure I’m excited to see what he’d cost, though. Looking at a lot more than Gorkys Hernandez…
“so is it just me and coach on the brad hawpe wagon? ” DAP
i love the brad hawpe idea! i think he makes the most sense for a team like the braves.
May 26th, 20093:39 pm
DAP- I’ll Hawpe on that bandwagon. Sorry- know that was absolutley terrible. I’ll go back to non-blogging.
Hey, here’s a photo of that play at the plate involving Fred Lewis. Looks out to me.
What say you?
“Maybe we could inquire about Ben Zobrist in a KJ/starting pitcher type deal now that Iwamura is out and they’re having problems with Kazmir and a less improved rotation from last season….”
Yikes, buddy. I know you hate KJ, but come on. Johnson AND a starter for Ben Zobrist? Zobrist is what he is. A fourth outfielder who is having a great year. But I don’t trade Johnson for him. Nope. Zobrist hasn’t had more than 227 plate appearances in an entire year. Career .233/.299/.415 hitter in 652 PA’s. Bobby’s, do you really like utility players THAT much?
May 26th, 20093:40 pm
I wouldn’t be mad at Brad Hawpe at all. I’d definitely rather have him than Holliday.
Bases loaded with nobody out. Now comes Frankor. Swing 1st pitch regardless and misses. Swing 2nd pitch too hard that he actually spins like a ball. Now, he learns his lesson and decides not to swing, but it’s a good pitch. He is out!
DOB – might Jeremy Hermida of the Marlins or Josh Willingham of the Nationals be available and of interest to the Braves? Seems that Willingham, who’s struggling this year with limited playing time but has still belted 6 HRs in 94 at-bats, could be had relatively easily, given the Nat’s crowded OF situation.
May 26th, 20093:41 pm
Thing is that if we are dealing for a LF, one of the LF has to go. We can have a team with 3 LF and then Norton…………We wont get a good RF for JF straight up, we will need to throw a really good pitcher from the minors to get it done. Or one of the bench guys. We could deal JF + bennett or carlyle + GA for a good RF or maybe JF + bennett + Norton for a RF.
I like Hawpe, I just worry about:
A) One more LH bat in the lineup (but again, can’t be worse than the current bats)
B) He could be a Coors Field product. This worries me much more than the LH part.
May 26th, 20093:42 pm
Time to send Schaffer to AAA. Play Anderson in left, Diaz in Right, move Frenchy to center and bring up Jones to eventually take over Frenchy as he keeps strugling. As bad as Frenchy has been, Schafer has been exponentially worse and he could really use some time at AAA (Frenchy as well but I have a feeling that he won’t be a Brave much longer). This should at least hold us over until the trade deadline, when outfield talent will be more affordable. Bottom line, Frenchy and Schaffer will sink this team’s chances if they keep getting at bats, regardless of their defensive contributions… DOB, any insight from Cox as to whether he is contemplating benching either Frenchy or Schaffer for someone more competent with a bat?
May 26th, 20093:43 pm
Willingham, No. Hermida, No. Why? Inter-division trade. Both parties want none of that.
Prediction: Jordan will go 0-4 tonight, with 5 stikeouts. Not possible? We’ll see.
Tomas, I like the idea of bringing Dye back to Atl. But like DAP said, you might have a wait a while on that one. Then again, Kenny Williams is notorious for making wild, unpredictable moves. The guy is a proven run-producer, and even though his avg. has dipped a little this year, the power numbers are still there. Not sure what the story is with his salary and such, or how much it would take him to pull him away from the Southsiders, but he’d be a welcome addition.
What would it take to get Hawpe?
Gorky’s + Locke + Redman?
Is that enough?
May 26th, 20093:44 pm
I think the Braves were about to make a trade for Hawpe. Hawpe for Medlen and Francouer. But when Medlen blew up the deal was over. Alot of Braves trading power got hurt or blew up.
“I’ll take Nady. In a heartbeat.”
“yeah, he will look great on the DL for the braves.”
I think I would rather have Nady for 60-75% of the season than any of our OFs for 95%. At least Nady has shown that he can hit with RISP. I don’t think it is a perfect fit considering he won’t be able to throw for a few weeks after coming off the DL. I just like how he plays. And yes, he’d look better on the DL than most of our guys do in the lineup. You are correct there.
I do believe Frenchy will be a serviceable outfielder and I wouldn’t mind it being with the braves, but we can’t have 3 OF players not only struggling to hit in RISP situations, but failing miserably. It just amplifies the problem. I know, Jeff is hitting .250 with RISP, which could be worse, but it is the unproductive outs that make things even uglier. I don’t want to pile on him, though. He is actually performing better than any OF on our team not named Diaz. : (
May 26th, 20093:45 pm
Efrim, re Vazquez for Cruz. I agree that is too many moving parts, and like Braveheart pointed out a couple of blogs, we would basically trade run prevention for run creation and most likely weaken the team. But, if KK, Glavine, Medlen pan out in the next month I think it is worth considering a package around Vazquez and Cruz. Now Texas may not be even be thinking about trading the blog crush Cruz, but if Texas is still atop AL West, it may get desperate for pitching, and it will be even less likely to trade Cruz in the offseason. Since we are willing to trade Vazquez in the offseason, why not trade him 3 months earlier since Cruz can help out immediately and for the next 4 years. I think in the offseason we would most likely get back prospects for Vazquez, and Wren has to add to 2 OF’ers in the offseason, since most likely the Frenchy exp is in its last stages.
By the way, Martin Prado is hitting .209/.277/.419 in May(48 plate appearances).
Kelly Johnson – .299/.347/.478(72 plate appearances)
May 26th, 20093:46 pm
home: .279, 14HR, 49RBIs
away: .287, 11HR, 36RBIs
home: .408, 2HR, 17RBIs
away: .275, 4HR, 17RBIs
May 26th, 20093:47 pm
i would worry about Hawpe too as a Coors product… but you look at his splits over the last 3 years, .288 on the road, .290 at home, 37 HR on the road, and 39 at home in a nearly identical amount of plate appearances (off by one). The guy can flat out hit no matter what field he’s on.
Honestly, it’s beyond me why everybody thinks that Dayton Moore has any interest in Frenchy. He doesn’t. It’s just wishful thinking. And the Royals have no need for another outfielder anyway. Now yes, I think they’d probably entertain an offer to rid themselves of Jose Guillen, but realistically that’s not likely to happen considering his contract, so Frenchy for Jose is out.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
Uhhh, do you know what STOP-GAP CF’er means bud??? That means he would come in and play until Schafer (hopefully) figures things out. I wouldn’t say Edmonds is done being the fact he hit 20 HR’s last year and still can play very solid D. Would you rather have had Schafer the first 45 games or Edmonds? Do you honestly believe the Braves wouldn’t have about 3-5 ore wins had Edmonds had all Schafer’s AB’s?? You stay “stupid suggestion after stupid suggestion” what are you proposing fool? Obviously something needs to be done in CF and RF ASAP!!! The first order of measure and most realistic is getting Edmonds at league minimum and getting some productive AB’s out of the 8 hole, not automatic K’s and dinkers!
So next time you rip on someone with a good idea, which I believe signing Edmonds for league minimum as a stop-gap is, come up with a better idea. Also don’t you think Edmonds would be a phenomenal tutor to Schafer on how to play THE BEST CF you can possibly play? Edmonds can be a great influence on the kid and put up some very respectable numbers. Not to mention his clubhouse gamer leadership for what 400K? Get the papers ready for Jim to sign! Please anybody prove my theory wrong there, Schafer is CLEARLY not ready yet!
So DOB, you’d be in favor of a lineup that regularly features Kotchman, KJ, McCann, Schafer, Anderson and Ankiel? That’s 6 LH hitters. No way.
May 26th, 20093:48 pm
Here’s a funnier picture of McCann.
Am I crazy or did DOB post the following, “He’s 13-for-33 with six homers against Big Unit.” And Randy Johnson is the Big Unit, right? So why all these post correcting him on this statement? Did DOB make an official scoring change later in the game?
DOB, you didn’t mention Dye up top– what’s your opinion on him as a possible suitor in RF?
DAP, the White Sox apparantly need pitching and that’s what Wren has plenty of. I find it hard to believe that a package of Morton/Hernandez/Locke type wouldn’t get that deal done even if Quentin is DL’d.
Francine and Shaffer are problems for the offense……………..
but, it would also help if we could keep Chipper in the lineup, shore up the pitching (Vasquez at 4-4 is a major disappointment and we still don’t have a reliable 5th starter), and teach McCann some defense (he’s got to one of the worst in the league)……………..
It would also help if Booby Cox would start playing small ball and learn how to manufacture runs. I am sick and tired of seeing 1 man on base or 2 on with none or only 1 out and we fail to move the runners up or most of the time don’t even try.
May 26th, 20093:51 pm
Also, if you want, rip on me and tell me this is a stupid idea too. Since Infante is out 2 months and then when he comes back will not be at 100% for atleast a month. I say sign Ray Durham at the league minimum too. Another grizzly gamer vet, switch hitter who can play the infield spots respectively and still has very solid production in his bat. That couldn’t hurt having him because Diory isn’t going to cut it with the bat over the next 2-3 months when needed or called upon. Durhamn is a great fill-in and pinch-hitting threat.
I definitely agree that changes have to be made, but you can’t give away the entire house for a couple of months rent, if there is anything we learned from the Tex trade it is that. I would think that since he has experience pitching in the majors cleveland would probably take Morton and another mid to low level prospect.
May 26th, 20093:52 pm
In my opinion we can’t trade Gorkys Hernandez. We have no idea if Schafer will be able to hit enough to be the CF of the future.
Chuck James- I like the idea of Edmonds. I think we do it sooner than later.
chc4: “So DOB, you’d be in favor of a lineup that regularly features Kotchman, KJ, McCann, Schafer, Anderson and Ankiel? That’s 6 LH hitters. No way”
Not to mention Chipper. Since there are far more RH pitchers than LH, that makes 7 LH hitters when he’s not hurt.
May 26th, 20093:53 pm
Blackberry – are you saying Vasquez’s performance is a disappointment, or the fact that his record is only 4-4 is disappointing… because he’s been outstanding this season. He, Lowe, and JJ have been great…”a major disappointment” would not be the words i would use to describe Javy.
RCA) One more LH bat in the lineup (but again, can’t be worse than the current bats)
B) He could be a Coors Field product. This worries me much more than the LH part.
dont worry too much about that, RC. hawpe does struggle a little aginst lefties: .247 avg .762 OPS for his career, but is pretty good in his carrer away from colorado a .281 avg and .860 OPS.
but thats for his career. he has become a much better hitter since he started as a 25 year old. so far this season he is hitting .293 avg .964 OPS agsint lefties (you should see his vs righty numbers) and arespectable .275 avg .884 OPS away.
so he does have a difference in his splits, but he is hardly a scrub away from colorado. still very solid.
May 26th, 20093:54 pm
Dear God,,, did I fall asleep for 4 months and it’s now September and we’re down to the wire? People — it’s the end of May and we’re 1 1/2 games out of FIRST PLACE IN OUR DIVISION… calm down, and stop all the panic talk….
yes, there are those in our outfield that probably shouldn’t be there, but Jeff isn’t one of them…. But there is a WHOLE lot more concern with what’s sitting in our bullpen right now. Buckett and Craplyle need to go…quickly… bring up Boone Logan to have another lefty in the pen, Campillo if he’s back to form for long relief. Sheesh… it ain’t rocket science – just calm down…it’s early and looks like we’re doing ok for a team that appears to be in such total disarray according to most of ya’ll…
May 26th, 20093:56 pm
Coach Dap – Check out Hawpe’s splits
Home – .431 .492 .725 1.217
Away – 275 .359 .525 .884
Much better than Frenchy’s but still there is a definite Coors factor involved.
May 26th, 20093:57 pm
Blackberry your an idiot. Vasquez has been solid this year, and his record for his career is below 500 with around a 420 or so career ERA so therefore he is what he is an inning eater so learn about the player before you make your stupid comments.
May 26th, 20093:58 pm
Fleming – Check out Hawpe’s splits
Home – .431 .492 .725 1.217
Away – 275 .359 .525 .884
I’ll take 275/359/525… where do I sign up?
TnBrian but if they trade dye, and quentin is on the DL, who is gonna hit it for them?
its the same answer for folks who think the red sox will trade bay. hes their biggest bat right now, and they are in the hunt. they wont do it.
May 26th, 20093:59 pm
Jeff, that very thought was voiced again and again about Schafer and we found out he was not ready for prime time. Your seeking salvation in an untested AAA player is just not sound.
Coach (2010 or Bust): Thanks. Looked up Holliday and Cabrera’s salaries for this year. Holliday, $13.5 million; Cabrera, $4 million; total, $17.5 million.
…compared to Vazquez, $11.5; Francouer, $3.4; (plus couple of minor pitchers), $1 million; total, $15.9 million.
Looks to me like Oakland could handle this trade, considering they have options at year’s end.
May 26th, 20094:00 pm
I’m not suggesting this, but just wondered about the possibility.
What if KJ went to play LF or RF and we played Omar (when he is back) or Prado (when Omar is back) every day at 2nd?
Also, is it really worth having Greg Norton on this team with Infante hurt? I’m not knocking the guy, but to never play in a game and only pinch hit, it seems we could use a roster spot to help get this offense going and to have a replacement in CF.
It might help to get him some more at bats against live pitching and we could spell Schafer in CF. Blanco isn’t hitting great in AAA. But it might help to get a little competition going on the big league club. He can’t do any worse than Schafer and is an average CF.
May 26th, 20094:02 pm
Glen W – Didn’t say I wouldn’t jump on a Hawpe trade in a heartbeat but would have to temper my enthusiasm and thus what should be given in return due to the possibility of a Coors factor at least this year. In years past not near as big a difference.
May 26th, 20094:03 pm
Hawpe? YES. Willingham? YES. Dye? YES. Holliday? No…. Stupid, Stupid Boras….
I sure do wish we could trade for a player about to be a FA and sign them to a long term contract immediatly.
Say what you will Efrim, but Cruz was no major leaguer until last year either. We’re back to the same damn argument: sample size and putting guys down for getting off to slow starts as young players with no regard for improvement.
Past performance doesn’t dictate future results as far as I’m concerned. Josh Hamilton, Ludwick, Quentin, Cruz, etc… should not have been given chances according to your theory on player development.
Over 650 PA (a major league season), Zobrist has totaled 23 HR, and that includes his 1st 2 “seasons” when he was considered a rookie still. I don’t care how Tampa has played him. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve had other options in the OF. The guy has turned a corner hitting 8 HR so far this year, and he could come for cheap. He’s got more walks this year in part time duty than Jeff’s had in his last 6 months playing everyday for us. He’s obviously an upgrade and he could come to us from a position of depth and strength in Tampa (OF) and a cost where we’re strong as well (2b). He’s cheap, he’s right handed, he can swipe some bags.
Don’t take it up with me about Kelly. All i do is point out what I see. DOB, Bowman, and other articles state he’s a piece that can be moved. Take it up with them, not with me who saw the writing on the wall long ago with all the lefties in the lineup and decent 2nd and 3rd options behind him.
May 26th, 20094:05 pm
How about Sin Shoo Choo in Cleveland. Cleveland is going no where fast. They can give more at-bats to Matt La Porta. Choo is right handed, has some pop, and can swipe bags as well.
Cameron, Escobar is day-to-day. Which means we’ll know more after clubhouse opens at 3:30 p.m., which is 6:30 p.m. East Coast Time. Could be back today, might be tomorrow, might not be.
Those asking about Dye — White Sox are near bottom of the league in most offensive categories. Where would they be without Dye?
May 26th, 20094:06 pm
Spilborghs will probably be available in July – not the best option, but an option. Seems like a trade of “different scenery” players would be likely, maybe Young from Arizona or DeJesus from KC as DB mentioned – unless Hanson comes up (and does well) and Huddy is looking good in July, and we decide we have enough starting pitching to trade. Having Holliday would make me the Happiest Boy in the World, though…
May 26th, 20094:07 pm
TBravesFan, I answered your retort last night:
194 runs scored. ranked 10th place.
182 RBI. ranked 11th place.
.398 SLG. ranked 11th place.
33 HR’s. ranked 13th place.
586 total bases. ranked 13th place.
10 stolen bases. Dead frigging last.
Our entire outfield ( Frenchy, Diaz, Anderson, Schafer) has 7 HR’s and 53 RBI after 44 games.
This is why all the trade talk is ongoing.
May 26th, 20094:11 pm
This may sound insane, but Texas has an outfield surplus that might have an affordable trade-piece. In just 69 at bats, Andruw is batting .290 with a .438 OBP, 4 dingers and 7 doubles. More importantly he would be an instant, if minimal, upgrade that we could get without mortgaging our future. It’s not exciting, but it sounds more realistic
May 26th, 20094:12 pm
DOB’s comments about the lack of offensive production in the outfield are hard to deny. Numbers don’t lie.
But it isn’t that the lack of outfield production is the ONLY missing piece with this team When your catcher is leading the team in stolen bases, that is a HUGE problem. When you have no threat at leadoff, that is also a HUGE problem.
So the Braves need to find a power hitting outfielder who can bat leadoff and steal bases. It ain’t Dunn and it ain’t Berkman, assuming of course that either would be available or affordable. Looking at this from fantasy land where most Braves’ fans are these days, why not pick up Soriano from the Cubs? Power bat, speed, leadoff hitter – he answers the three glaring needs, not just one.
The Cubs are for sale, so maybe they would love to unload Soriano’s big fat contract. Oh, I forgot, the Braves are for sale too!
Efrim, I don’t care what Martin is hititng in May. He’s been hitting lots of line drives and still is trying to hit the ball to all fields, spraying grounders to 3rd, ss, 2nd, and 1b. He gives us good at-bats, decent defense, and will finish the year as a .300 hitter guaranteed. Let him play everyday and get comfortable, and you’ll see better results.
May 26th, 20094:13 pm
The trade talk is nice and Wren is probably working hard trying to get it done but trade talk this early is scary. The price for anyone is gonna be a lot higher now than a month and a half from now. Hope we don’t give up too much for any pieces we trade for now when we’re still hanging in there only 1 1/2 out. But then you got to balance that with the fact that in a month and a half we may not be close enough to reap the benefits of waiting. Tough decision for Wren
May 26th, 20094:15 pm
We need to do something about our OF situation, and fast. If the Braves waited until the July 31st deadline to address that need, we could very well be out of the running for the division title, or the WC. We need a power bat, and soon..
May 26th, 20094:16 pm
I can’t see Kelly being traded or moved as long as Infante is out.
By the way, it’s May 26th. The Colorado Rockies are 18-26. In last place in the N.L West at 12 games back. There is going to be a fire sale in Denver and soon.
May 26th, 20094:17 pm
How long can a player be listed as day to day before having to be placed on the DL?
Those campaigning about Melky Cabrera last year also had a valid point…
May 26th, 20094:18 pm
RC, I wasn’t actually concerned about the Orioles picking up Francoeur’s salary; the thought being that we’d have to eat the salary and trade him w/a pitcher for a guy like Jones. Sorry I didn’t word it with more clarity.
May 26th, 20094:19 pm
ZC, I can’t see the Braves trading away minor league prospects for a guy they had an opportunity to sign for the league minimum w/o giving up any players two months ago. I know he has played well the past two months, but he was terrible for the previous two years.
May 26th, 20094:21 pm
I know our starting pitching is great right now, but talking about trading off surplus right now is scary after last year. Too many question marks going forward in the rotation. How is Medlin gonna do? Can Glavine make a return? Will KK’s shoulder hold up or is it gonna get tired again. Can Hanson live up to his promise? Right now we got a lot of options but suppose we trade Morton and Medlin and Glavine can’t return and KK’s shoulder gives out. Then it’s back to last year again.
May 26th, 20094:22 pm
Francoeur has proven that he has the ability to produce least we forget his first couple of seasons! I worry more about Jordan and Anderson. Jordan should platoon around the outfield giving all the guys a night off every once in a while. I like the idea of bringing up another bat from the minors but then who would you send down? You can’t send Francoeur down again and they’ve made their bed with Jordan! So a trade is all that’s left and from what I’ve seen there isn’t anyone out there that is going to produce any better unless the Braves care to give up some quality bait?? Are we really ready to give up on Francoeur? I’m not! We are still in the race and let’s see how the next few weeks go. Andruw Jones is an interesting idea???
May 26th, 20094:24 pm
Brad Hawpe’s Career Stats are about a equal as you can get which helps to rule out the Coor’s field advantage. And when you look at his numbers at turner field he would be a steal, if he could post the same numbers. He is also making 5.5 million on the season which is not unreasonable. The Rockies would want pitching like almost everyone else. Maybe a package of Morton, Locke, Francouer (mostly salary purposes) and a lower level prospect would entice the Rockies to approach the table.
Away OBP .384 SLG .505 & OPS .889
Home OBP.384 SLG .531 & OPS .915
Turner Field Numbers OBP .419 SLG .696 & OPS 1.115
CENTER FIELD WOES
If we only had Josh Anderson back to play center field!
Great move Frank, trading away Josh!
Schafer needs to work out his hitting struggles in AAA. And why didn’t Bobby pinch hit for him yesterday with the bases loaded — and the Giants only ahead 3 to 2 at that point in the game?
Moreover, I too am in the camp of those who wish the Braves would have given Andruw a look in Spring Training. Project out his current part times stats with Texas over the course of a year (based on 550 at bats) and he would have close to 30 home runs and 100 runs batted in!
As for the possibility of getting Holliday, let’s not repeat the Tex blunder!
Necromancer, you can list a player as day to day every day if you want to. It has no official meaning.
May 26th, 20094:27 pm
JFreak, I don’t know what you mean by, “[Atlanta has] made their bed with Jordan.” They could easily send him back to the minors.
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