Surging Braves hit Frisco
San Francisco – Good afternoon from the shores of San Francisco Bay, where the sun’s out after the earlyfog, and it’s going to get up to 60 degrees. I hope it’s as nice where you are, because here it sure is a crisp, gorgeous Memorial Day here by the bay.
Before we go any further, Chipper Jones and Yunel Escobar aren’t in the lineup. Just got back from clubhouse, talked to Chipper, whose sprained big toe is still black and blue, and quite sore.
While he was in an initial lineup that was posted, that was more hopeful on Bobby Cox’s part, and once Chipper got here and told him it wasn’t any better, that was that. Martin Prado in there again, hitting second this time behind Kelly Johnson and ahead of Matt Diaz and Brian McCann.
”It’s probably the worst one he’s had,” Cox said, referring to Jones and comparing this to his previous toe injuries (not including that ligament injury beneath his foot a few years back, that nearly required surgery).
I just got back from clubhouse, and talked to Chipper. He said running the bases after his big pinch-hit yesterday didn’t help it, though he didn’t think it really aggravated it much. He’ll miss his fourth consecutive start today.
”It’s just not ready yet,” he said. “I can’t go out there and play defense and run the bases.”
Asked if he was frustrated, he said, “It is what it is. It’s a sprain. It takes some time for the soreness and swelling to get out of there. Just doesn’t happen overnight.”
”Running the bases yesterday was painful, and it’s not going to be any better today.”
I asked Bobby Cox if it was still not being considered a possible DL situation, and he said he didn’t think so. He added that if they still had Omar Infante, it’d be easier to carry Chipper a while without putting him on DL.
But even though they don’t have Infante, Cox said that, for now, he doesn’t think it’s a DL thing with Chipper. “I hope not,” he said.
Chipper said he’ll be in there as soon as he can play his position and run the bases. To his credit, he said, “There were some plays Martin made yesterday that I wouldn’t have been able to get to. He’s done a great job, and I think we’re better off right now with him out there and me coming off the bench.
“It [sprain] just has to run its course.”
As for Escobar: “I would say he’s more day-to-day,” Cox said.
♣ On a roll: Braves have won five out of six and 12 out of 17 games, and they finally started to remove that home-park pox by winning four of the last five on a homestand that ended yesterday with a 10-2 win against Toronto, completing a sweep of the team that came to town with the best record in the American League.
Seriously, anyone who’d written the Braves off a week or two ago, and still believes as much, is going to need to explain to us who in the division is so formidable that you really don’t believe the Braves can’t stay in this race.
They start a seven-game trip today that includes three against a San Francisco team that’s lost nine of 11 and scored two runs or fewer five times in that stretch.
After three here at beautiful AT&T Park, the Braves play four at Phoenix. We’ll go from temps in the 50s and 60s here to highs above 100 there (albeit with a domed stadium), and the Braves will have a chance to keep making hay.
The Braves are 12-6 since May 5, best record in the NL East over that span, ahead of the Mets (11-7), Phillies (12-8) and Marlins (5-13). We’ll give you the Nats’ record over any stretch when it becomes relevant again.
”I think it gives you a little bit of momentum,” Cox said of the way the Braves finished the homestand. “We had a great flight out here after the victory.”
Chipper said watching the Braves sweep the Blue Jays — without him in the lineup, and without Escobar the past two games — was encouraging.
”We’re playing some good baseball now,” he said. “Now you’re starting to see some guys get hot. Kelly, Mac, they’re starting to swing the bat well, driving the ball out of the ballpark. That’s good to see. Hopefully it’s contagious and some of the other guys will fall in line.”
♣ Heating up: Johnson continues to be the streakiest hitter in baseball, or at least it must seem that way to any Braves observer.
Dude hit .200 with one homer and five RBI in exactly 100 at-bats over a 31-game stretch from April 12 to Friday. In the past two games, Kelly’s 5-for-9 with two homers and four RBI.
One fewer RBI in the past two games than he had in the previous 31.
Johnson heating up?
As for McCann, he needs to hook up with a glasses company for an endorsement right now, because he’s raking in the prescription eyeware.
He’s hit .396 (19-for-48) with three homers, 10 RBI and a .453 OBP in 14 games since coming backfrom the DL, and yesterday was his third three-hit game in that period.
Oh, and the Braves are 9-5 in those 14 games.
Meanwhile, Casey Kotchman’s avg and OBP are down in his past 16 games, but his run production is way up in that span. He hit .293 with a .363 OBP and 10 doubles in his first 27 games, but had only four RBI, no homers and a .402 slugging percentage in that span.
Kotchman has hit .268 with a .311 OBP in his past 16 games, but has 17 RBI, two homers, a .482 slugging percentage in that span. Braves are 11-5 in those games, after going 12-15 in his first 27 games.
His pal Garret Anderson is also starting to hit, though without extra-base hits in the mix. He’s 15-for-43 with a double, 14 singles and six RBI in his past 11 games, and four of those runs were driven in via sac flies.
Hey, it’s improvement over what he did early, that’s for sure.
♣ No support for Curacao Kid: No run support, that is. You gotta wonder, will it cost Jurrjens a spot on the All-Star team?
Dude is 4-2 with a .228 opponents’ average and 2.07 ERA in 10 starts, the third-lowest ERA in the NL, fourth in the majors.
In his past eight starts, Jurrjens is 2-2 with a 1.98 ERA, which is stunning, to me. In that span, he’s received 3.06 support runs per nine innings pitched.
But as bad as J.J.’s run support has been, Kenshin Kawakami’s has been worse. In fact, his 2.56 support runs per nine innings pitched ranks as the second-lowest in the NL, behind only Barry Zito (2.09).
Meanwhile, two Braves now sit atop the NL in run support: 1. Javier Vazquez (7.71 runs) and Derek Lowe (6.75).
Vazquez (4-3, 3.39 ERA) is going against lefty Jonathan Sanchez (1-4, 4.74) today in a matchup that would appear to favor Los Bravos.
Sanchez is 0-3 with a 6.53 ERA inh is past four starts, with almost as many walks (16) as strikeouts (20) in 20-2/3 innings. Against the Braves, he’s 0-2 with a 7.04 ERA and .344 opp average in his past three games, including one start last season and two relief appearances in 2007.
Vazquez is 3-0 with a 2.10 ERA in four road starts this season, including wins in each of his past three.
♣ A salute on Memorial Day: After boarding the plane yesterday in Atlanta, I was alone in a row of three for about 15 minutes. Until this older black man with a Vietnam Veteran ballcap boarded the plate late. I was in the aisle, he in the window seat, empty seat between us.
He had a cane and real difficulty walking. I had on a young Bob Dylan T-shirt. And, well, I just never know what a Vietnam vet might think of that, you know? By that I mean, might be a guy who believes the war was total B.S., or might be a guy who’d like to strangle any hippy and Jane Fonda, or he might have a view that falls somewhere between. I do think about those things as I get older.
Anyway, I look closer and notice he’s got on an earring. I take off my don-t-talk-to-me headphones and say, “Thanks for your military service.”
He looks at me, like he’s making sure he’d heard what he thought he’d heard, and said, “Pardon?”
I say again, “Thanks for your service.”
He smiles and says, “You’re welcome.”
I tell him my uncle, Wayne, served in ‘Nam, had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and not until the past decade or so was he finally, properly medicated and more functional and happy. Tell him Wayne died a year or two ago, had all kinds of other health issues.
The old guy’s listening intently, nodding. Tells me he has PTSD himself. And starts telling me that it’s fairly common for vets to not be treated or get meds or whatever, initially because they believed when they came back that they were fine, and secondly, because the VA and/ or the government makes them jump through hoops to prove they were specifically traumatized by incident or incidents when they served. They have be tested and quizzed by shrinks, and to go from this doc to that one before they get a ’scrip. It’s wrong.
Anyway, this was a cool guy. He volunteers now to help other vets get help they need. Says that’s his purpose now that he’s retired. Dude has it together. He’s a native New Yorker but has lived for a long time in Coral Springs, Fla. (suburban Fort Lauderdale, for those not familar). He was coming to San Francisco to play golf for a few days with his brother, also a ‘Nam vet.
Tip of the proverbial cap to him, and to all veterans and active-duty military personnel on this Memorial Day. Whether we agree or disagree on the reasons for the various wars you’ve fought, or on the principles of war itself, all of us Americans — every single one of us — owe you a huge debt of gratitude for serving. Much respect.
And finally … This one goes out to Jay Bennett, the former Wilco band member who died over the weekend at age 45. As one of our bloggers, musician Dylan Kight, pointed out to me, it (presumably) wasn’t written about Bennett, but it seems particularly poignant and fitting in this instance.
“THE LONELY 1″ by Jeff Tweedy (Wilco)
After the show you walked right past.
Arms reached out for your autograph.
And as you flashed your backstage pass.
I caught your eye with a camera’s flash.
When the band came out they stood behind you.
Cymbals crashed, the lights went blue.
You stood alone in the halo’s haze.
Shinny guitar hung on gold lamay.
And you, you were the lonely one.
You were the lonely one.
When you perform it’s so intense.
When the critics pan I write in your defense.
I understand I’m just a fan, I’m just a fan.
When I get home I turn off the alarm.
I’ve checked the phone, no messages on.
I play the ones from yesterday.
I play you’re song just to hear you say that….
You, you’re the lonely one.
You are the lonely one.
You, you’re the lonely one.
You are the lonely one.
1,568 comments Add your comment
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:19 pm
1st? ~_~
Joe Mama
May 25th, 2009
3:19 pm
1st???
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
3:21 pm
12th???
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:22 pm
DOB
You’re lucky ~_~
It’s gonna be a wet one here today. I just hope I am able to watch the game. When it storms here, power lines get a little sensitive
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
3:22 pm
Forgot to mention, both teams wearing red caps today (as are all major league teams, I think).
Braves has a blue and white-trimmed “A” with little white stars on the letter.
Again, the LINEUP
1. KJ, 2B
2. Prado, 3B
3. Diaz, LF
4. McCann, C
5. Francoeur, RF
6. Kotchman, 1B
7. D. Hernandez, SS
8. Schafer, CF
9. Vazquez, RJ
CB
May 25th, 2009
3:25 pm
Thanks DOB for sharing that story.
LKS
May 25th, 2009
3:26 pm
DOB-GREAT Story. Thanks!
Rob from SC
May 25th, 2009
3:28 pm
Hopefully Vazquez avoids that troubling inning.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:31 pm
I like the idea of all the Red Caps for today.
I heard from someone that they are likely to do it for 4th of July. Is it true?
Supes
May 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
Let’s hope the Braves can keep this going. Take care of Sanchez and the Giants today!
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
YO DOB,
With the Mets in a little tailspin personnel wise and the Phillies only 1.5 games up, do you think it is important for the Braves to make a move into first in the next week?? Or do you think that just staying close thru the halfway point will be good enough??
Personally I think they need to get into first place as soon as possible to ignite some of the younger guys on the team and maybe get a few more bats going. Something about being in first place always adds a little bit of an edge to a teams play.
Could be a good spark, even if they didn’t stay in first very long. What do you think??
Random
May 25th, 2009
3:34 pm
“CY” Jones (2:46 pm): “Wren didn’t address the outfield production problem in the offseason. He knew he didn’t. “
I don’t see how you can hold this position while at the same time acknowledging that Wren decided to go with Schafer and that he did acquire GAnderson, and according to you:
“GA is actually playing below expectations and so is Shafer.”
If these two were playing up to expectations, there would be no OF production problem.
So Wren did do something to address the outfield production problem — it just hasn’t worked out as reasonably expected (yet).
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
3:38 pm
From the Last Blog…, But Does Anyone Like The KotchMeister Hitting 3rd instead of sixth, since he’s on a Roll…? Matty-D has been Good lately too, But I like The Kotchmeister’s tendency to work the counts better….
Kevin
May 25th, 2009
3:38 pm
Cant mention it enough today and like DOB said Thanks to our veterans and God Bless America ! Being a native New Yorker I saw America rally on Sept 12th and we are still and always will be behind our military folks so if you see one thank them. Thanks DOB for that nice story
TennesseePaul
May 25th, 2009
3:41 pm
DOB:“the Braves play three at Phoenix”
You had me panicked DOB. I’m headed out to AZ for this series and I was planning for a four game set. Then you start typing and a game is dropped… I checked though, the schedule on both the D-Backs and Atlanta page calls for a four game series.
Shane
May 25th, 2009
3:41 pm
Matt Harrison getting lit up today 5IP 7ER. His season ERA now up to 5.43 ( Thats Jo Jo Territory folks)
Mixxo
May 25th, 2009
3:42 pm
Good story David! Hat off to ‘em all.
Diggin’ the headline too ….Surging…
R.I.P. Jay
chc4
May 25th, 2009
3:44 pm
Wow, SF has the worst offense in MLB but their lineup looks much better than ours today. Let’s hope Javy brings his A game.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
3:44 pm
Dave, have you heard any whispers that the Braves are in the market for a bat, or are the stories on CBS a bit speculatory?
Goldenglove002
May 25th, 2009
3:44 pm
What channel is the game on today? Gotta get in as much of it as I can before all the family comes over.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
That’s right, Shane. The Tex trade was a success. Eat it, haters.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
3:45 pm
I really enjoyed your story about the Vietnam vet as well, Dave.
Dumbfound
May 25th, 2009
3:49 pm
I do not understand the injury to Chipper ! Yesterday when he got his hit, He begged Bobby Cox not to take him out ! He motion to Cox that he was fine ! Watch the replay, He told Cox he was fine ! So why did he say he was fine running the bases yesterday ?!!!
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
3:49 pm
We should all thank our service men and women today as well as thank them on some idol Tuesday in March. I think it means more to them when its not a holiday. Just a thought………
Goldenglove002
May 25th, 2009
3:51 pm
Anyone else see this? Milton Bradley seems to think there is a conspiracy against him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4204044
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
3:51 pm
Those hats are fugly
Mark
May 25th, 2009
3:52 pm
“GA is actually playing below expectations and so is Shafer.”
If these two were playing up to expectations, there would be no OF production problem.
Hey Random, aren’t you forgetting about a certain huge, gaping hole in that other outfield spot not occupied by Anderson, Diaz or Schafer?
Mark
May 25th, 2009
3:54 pm
Great blog, DOG.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:54 pm
I thank our service men and women every day and keep them in my thoughts and prayers. I’ll admit, doing that is not my thing, but I respect them for doing what they do, so I can do what I do.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
3:55 pm
Thanks for that catch TennPaul. Fixed now. Yes, four in ‘Zona.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
3:56 pm
Matt Harrison for ya….5IP 11 H 7 ER 1 BB 2 SO
MP31
May 25th, 2009
3:56 pm
any news on trying to get a right hand bat. DB
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
3:57 pm
Mark
3:52 pm
“GA is actually playing below expectations and so is Shafer.”
If these two were playing up to expectations, there would be no OF production problem.
Hey Random, aren’t you forgetting about a certain huge, gaping hole in that other outfield spot not occupied by Anderson, Diaz or Schafer?
Yeah but if Anderson and Schafer were playing up to expectations Francouer wouldnt matter that much. You could afford to have one bad outfielder but not 3.
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
3:57 pm
First time all year I have seen both the home and away feeds available for the braves on mlb extra innings. (indemand/cable version) I hardly ever get to hear Joe and Chip stink it up as often as people on here suggest. 95% of the time they show the opposing teams feed not sure why?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
3:58 pm
NO matter how Mauer hits, I’ll still say Mac is the best ML catcher. Mac doesn’t get to DH, doesn’t play indoors, and plays half his games in the Southern heat/humidity.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:58 pm
I am gonna watch Braves feed today.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:59 pm
McCann should unquestionably start the All Star Game this year.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
3:59 pm
a643dp
Might be cause the Holiday, they probably want people to be able to view which one they want?…IDK
booger1
May 25th, 2009
3:59 pm
My brother returned home from Iraq yesterday. Best Memorial Day Weekend ever!
And I agree, Bravos2249. Those hats are NOT cute.
bravesfan07
May 25th, 2009
4:00 pm
so dob have you heard anything about the rumors that sourround jeff failcoure
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:02 pm
booger1
Congrats on your brother coming home. And the hats like those last year that where dark blue where ok, but red? no
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:02 pm
You think if Schafer can hit it into one of the caroms of the field that he could get a triple or inside the parker?
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
4:03 pm
Kris Benson gave up three runs in the sixth for the Rangers, so it looks like Matt Harrison isn’t the only one getting smoked by the Yanks today.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
4:03 pm
Steve From OH,
Your point about Gorkys needing polishing was mine exactly.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:04 pm
Now the Rangers look ok in those red hats, it matches their “red” in their other red dominant unis.
The Nats may look ok with the hats too, but everyone else, especially the Giants will look tacky. Why can’t they just put the stars and stripes in the emblem on the hat and let the hat stay the color it is, it would look better.
Random
May 25th, 2009
4:05 pm
Mark (3:52 pm): “aren’t you forgetting about a certain huge, gaping hole in that other outfield spot not occupied by Anderson, Diaz or Schafer?”
Nope.
Number one, Francoeur has improved from last year, which is all most of us ever asked for.
Number two, “two out of three ain’t bad” — if Schafer and GAnderson had been playing as reasonably expected (and had remained uninjured), Braves would be in 1st in the NL East. That would be good enough for most here.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:05 pm
Capt Caveman: No, it’s not important they make a move by next week. First of all, how many moves do you really think will be made by next week? It’s way too early for most teams to start moving impact-type players, and the Braves need to get a real bat, not just some marginal player a team is ready to dump.
To get someone like that, it’s most likely going to be deeper into the season. There are exceptions, sure, but Braves aren’t only team looking for a bat. Sabean, the Giants’ GM, is openly saying he is pursuing one.
Yes, Braves are, by the way, for those wondering if rumors are true. They’re looking, but they have been for most of the season. Just gotta be patient and hope they can find a trade partner that won’t demand a king’s ransom.
I think if they do make a move, it’ll come well before trade deadline this time around.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
4:05 pm
Mauer is probably the better player just because of his defense. But if he continues hitting like he did in May he’ll win the MVP.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:05 pm
Chop Chop
Yeah since Harrison’s 2 CG he’s gone a combined 10 innings giving up 12 runs in 2 starts.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
4:06 pm
Thanks, Dave!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:06 pm
As I said earlier…Man If We can get one of Our Other Regulars to carry the Team While Chipper is out, Like A. Jones did in 2005 in his Career Year…This Team can make a Push…
I think The Kotchmeister Goes Yard Today With the Short Dimensions from the Right field line to Right Center (To Hit anything Out of the Park left of Right Center is only Restricted to Barroid Bonds Only, They Need to name it the Barroid Alley, Nook ETC, because I have seen few people other than him tho it one in the area OF Ctr/Rt,Ctr where the angle gets drastic)…
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
4:08 pm
Iwamura out for the year they need a 2nd baseman??????????? pick up the phone wren………………
bravesfan07
May 25th, 2009
4:08 pm
sso guys who would be a better pickup dye or holliday
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:08 pm
Bravos2249….
I agree That Dud Selig and The MLB Marketing team has taken it too far with the red hats…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:08 pm
PWHjort
I agree on that, but I’m just saying catchers like Mac, GULP Martin and even frickin Soto, don’t have the luxury of DH’ing every couple of days. Joe has played in 13 straight games but only 9 behind the plate. I think having to go out there and squat every inning and then being able to hit is more impressive then sitting on the bench and hitting.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
4:10 pm
DOB…thanks man
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:10 pm
Well, there’s an abrupt alarm clock for the Braves, who appear to be dragging a bit after flying out last night, eh?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:10 pm
Diaz as the 3rd hitter? I mean I know he can rake lefties BUT you gotta have a more patient batter in that spot.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:11 pm
DOB
Whose the tard that made this a day game. I mean the dang White Sox who are in a sense a little closer to Cali than the Braves don’t play until like 10:00.
some sense
May 25th, 2009
4:11 pm
Good God, DOB, thanks for the story on your seatmate…chilling. No lie, I’m tearing up as I think about you, him and look across the room at the flag from dad’s (WW II) coffin. God bless you, the guy, my father, and everybody else who has served on our behalf and respects and appreciates those who have.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:12 pm
Definitely looks like a beautiful day. Wish I was there
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
4:12 pm
Sanchez might give the Braves hitters a LONG day…dude looked nasty in that 1st inning. Javy is gonna have to be on his game and stay away from that famous “bad inning”.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:12 pm
Interesting stat for Javy. Undefeated on the road and in day games.
Nice catch Diaz!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:13 pm
Uggghhh Oh, This offense Looks Flat, Maybe it was Jet-Lag or something the offense suffered in the top of the 1st….! I’m still calling it that that the Braves Only show up to play against the Good Teams Of MLB…
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
4:13 pm
Nice play Matt Diaz in left — GA doesn’t catch that ball.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
4:13 pm
Adam Dunn could have caught that just by sticking his glove up (with his eyes closed).
Mixxo
May 25th, 2009
4:14 pm
Heckuva catch Matty!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:14 pm
Man I thought Dud Selig Was gonna Address the weak bat issue in Mlb? Edgar didn’t even get jammed and he broke his bat…
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:14 pm
Sun is shining and the scenery from this perfectly located pressbox perch (low, practically right in the stands), the scenery is remarkable…. And the water and boats beyond the outfield don’t look bad, either.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:15 pm
A nice 1 2 3 inning.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:15 pm
Yeah There we Go Javy, 7 pitches, Nice!
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:15 pm
Vinings Jim-
You just had to go there, didn’t you?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:16 pm
DOB
Is a breeze blowing or anything? Or is the temp just good and humidity down?
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! Great numbers on my mann!
BravesFanChris24 @ 3:59–
Yep;that’s what we all said last year, too…
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
DOB-
the only park that even comes close in terms of setting, at least in my opinion, is San Diego. AT&T is just beautiful and the location cannot be topped
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Oh man, imagine jet lag on top of bad plate discipline for Frenchy. Woah, it might get REAL ugly up there for Jeff today…we’ll see.
LKS
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Ok DOB…keep rubbin it in
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Would’ve been a heckuva play there.
MP31
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
offense needs to get goin
JJ
May 25th, 2009
4:17 pm
Glad your scenery is nice, DOB. Wish I could say the same for the non-HD Sportsouth telecast. I can hardly tell whats what without HD.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:18 pm
BravesFanChris24-
never been to San Francisco I take it? Humidity is pretty much non-existant and the wind is always blowing
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:19 pm
I only had to work 4 hours (half a day) today, so I am able to watch the game live
Mixxo
May 25th, 2009
4:19 pm
Mac flashin’ the wheels again!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:20 pm
cabravesfan
To be honest, I haven’t even been anywhere much less west coast ~_~
I’ve been to Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee and Florida (live in FL).
Goldenglove002
May 25th, 2009
4:21 pm
Just some interesting stats on some of the guys that have been in trade rumors that the braves might go after, all from over the past 3 years.
Matt Holliday: in 29 AB’s at Turner Field, Holliday has .379 AVG, 2 HR’s, 4 doubles, 2 SB’s and 8 K’s. He also has a .439 AVG with 9 HR’s, 21 runs and RBI’s, 2 SB and 15 K’s against the Marlins over 82 AB’s, a .305 AVG with 3 HR’s, 9 RBI’s, 2 SB’s and 16 K’s against the Mets in 82 AB’s, a .250 AVG with 7 HR’s 19 RBI’s and 9 K’s in 68 AB’s against the Phillies, and a .364 AVG with 6 HR’s, 27 RBI’s, 6 SB’s and 19 K’s against the Nats. He also hits .302 with RISP and .378 with bases loaded
Mark Derosa: Has a .361 AVG in 32 AB’s at Turner Field. A .158 AVG against FLA in 38 AB’s, a .286 AVG in 35 AB’s against the Mets, A .237 AVG in 38 AB’s against the Phillies, and a .326 AVG in 43 AB’s against the Nats. He’s a .305 hitter with RISP and .440 with bases loaded. His AVG is also 20 points lower post allstar, when we might see him come in a trade.
Magglio Ordonez: 4-12 with a SB at Turner Field. He’s 2-6 with a double against the Mets, 5-11 with 4 RBI’s against the Phillies, and 7-10 against the Nats. Has not played the Marlins in the last 3 years. .352 with RISP and .306 with bases loaded. Traditionally hits in the #4 spot.
Out of these 3 I really think we should try hard to get Holliday. Yes, it’s a 2-3 month rental, but he could really keep the offense going as the season progresses.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:21 pm
Used to live in GA for a time period, which is when I became a Braves fan.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
4:21 pm
cabravesfan – I’m just glad that my remark was caught by someone who understands the difference between cogent commentary and being a smart aleck.
MP31
May 25th, 2009
4:21 pm
we need a win today. good chance the phils lose tonight against marlins with moyer on the hill. had 5 bad outings in a row.
Zach
May 25th, 2009
4:23 pm
DOB,
What do you think about the article bowman wrote about trading Jeff?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:23 pm
OMG That Wendy’s Commercial is AWFUL, Sounds Like that Pop-Tart, T-Pain/Gay-Kon Garbage that is overplayed on the radio nowadays
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
4:25 pm
It doesn’t get better than the war games scene in “The Dirty Dozen” (unless the Braves could score a few runs).
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:25 pm
BravesFanChris24-
Let’s just say San Francisco is one of the few places that, when the tempature hits 60 at the end of May, it’s called “warm”
The first time i went to AT&T for a game, in july, it was about 55 degrees and the flags on top of the right field wall, well, the one on the right was blowing straight to the right. The one on the left was blowing straight left. And the one in the middle was dead. They are perhaps 10 feet from eachother. Swirling doesn’t even begin to describe the wind there, although it seems fairly calm today…
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
4:25 pm
Geez, is red bul on the banned substance list? lol
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:26 pm
Well before this game The Braves are 13-7 against teams that are over .500 this year…
While They are 11-12 against teams that have played less than .500 baseball this year, letting their guard down against the Jubroni teams
Proof that this team comes correct when the play the good teams of the league, and W emight drop 2 of three of three to the giants
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:26 pm
Vinings Jim-
I’m sure someone out there thought you were serious
J-X
May 25th, 2009
4:28 pm
Does it look to anyone else that Vazquez’s stuff looks better than normal? Knock on wood, but it just looks like he is peppering the bottem of the zone at the corners. He looks good, hopefully we can give him some runs to work with.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:28 pm
So far so good for Javy.
LKS
May 25th, 2009
4:28 pm
Ok stupid girl question…what is the umpire looking for when he is looking over the ball after it hit the ground and Mac gives it to him to throw to the dugout? Is he just looking for where it hit?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:29 pm
cabravesfan
I’d love that weather daily. I’m in Pensacola, FL and it changes constantly.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:29 pm
What we had there was a failure to communicate. And some bad sun. But mostly a failure to communicate.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:29 pm
Only the Braves Can F That play Up, Unreal…I’ve Seen 8 year old Little Leaguers Make that play
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:29 pm
Oops, that’s a bad one, but no harm.
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
4:30 pm
I know the red caps are in honor of Memorial Day so you gotta love that, but the blue uniforms with red blinged out caps is not a good look. Just sayin.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
4:30 pm
WTF was that Prado? Let the pitcher catch it!
J-X
May 25th, 2009
4:30 pm
I know in the outfield the center fielder has authority to call anyone off, who has this ability in the infield?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:30 pm
I’m Glad That F-Up didn’t happen with the bases juiced with two outs, We Would’ve got Clowned for that!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
Prado called that fly ball, but I got the impression from looking at it that Vazquez lost it in the sun and really didn’t know which way to go. Something like that, at least.
LKS
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
J-X
Pretty sure its SS
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
Didn’t Chipper drop a popup in SF last year? I think he knocked it foul but still.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
The shortstop.
Mixxo
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
J-X
It’s Mac’s job to call it.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:31 pm
I really Hate the fact that major League Pitchers don’t catch pop-ups to the mound I’ve never understood that logic…
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
4:32 pm
If any series this season will most resemble the Dead Ball Era, it will be this one.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:32 pm
Boog sooo just stole that team error idea from Buck Showalter…he said the exact same thing a couple of nights ago on BSPN.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:33 pm
BravesFanChris24-
Southern California has better weather- 75 and sunny probably 10.5 months out of the year
the other month and a half it’s either really hot or cold (and by “cold” i mean somewhere between 60-65) 
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
4:33 pm
T-Hawkin, as a pitcher I never liked it either. I know how to catch…
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
4:34 pm
McCann’s AVG is up to .311!
With June coming up, I’m sure we’ll start to see some voting “progress reports” for the ASG. McCann better at least be in the top two…but I’m sure the .195 AVG and DL stint hurt him a little since that all started happing right when the voting began.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:34 pm
cabravesfan
I’ll take that over weather here any day
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
4:34 pm
Don Sutton would be appalled at the suggestion that pitchers dirty their hands with a fair pop-up. Those are for the … ugh … FIELDERS to handle, lol!
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
4:35 pm
who else sees a one run game again today?
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
4:35 pm
I love watching Javy pitch!!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:35 pm
LOL @ Lincecum
Mark
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
I really Hate the fact that major League Pitchers don’t catch pop-ups to the mound I’ve never understood that logic…
I don’t get that crap either. Even when it is right on the pitcher’s mound they want them to pass the buck to an infielder. It makes no sense. Are pitchers that inept that they can’t catch a can of corn pop-up?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
Javy hitting the ball!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
Vazquez: I’ll do it myself. Don’t worry about.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
There We Go Javy! Stroking!!!!
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
and not so bad hitting today either!!
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
Stupid pitching by Sanchez.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
Who needs the OF to produce? Javy hits a 3-2 pitch for a ground rule double.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:36 pm
A little more and it would’ve been a HR!
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
4:37 pm
He does it all, that Vasquez fellow.
Interested Observer
May 25th, 2009
4:37 pm
Is it a requirement that all Braves players and coaches have to listen to their favorite music on their Verizon wireless phones?
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:37 pm
Wind is blowing out, could be a couple of long balls today
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:38 pm
Steve From OH…
Co-Sign…! When I played I always caught it that T-ball fundamentals
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
4:38 pm
vasquez says BOUT THAT MOUF!!!!!!
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
4:39 pm
I wonder what pitchers hit when they are ahead in the count. Do they become marginal big-league bats in those situations?
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
4:39 pm
Joe and Boog making me laugh out loud today.
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
4:39 pm
DOB: thanks for another great travel story. There’s always one there for you, whether it comes to you, or you have to look for it, isn’t there?
A big THANKS and GOD BLESS to all our serving and have served millitary men and women out there, and their families too. Don’t know how my mom saw my dad off to 3 wars (II, Korean and ‘Nam) and kept her sanity with us 6 kids at home. (2 new ones after each homecoming!!)
Fly those flags today, sports fans………because WE CANN!
MLH
May 25th, 2009
4:39 pm
The catcher is the player who directs traffic in the infield
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
4:40 pm
I hate the DH. There I said it, I’m officially a hater.
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
4:40 pm
Unlucky
MLH
May 25th, 2009
4:40 pm
Pitchers aren’t supposed to catch pop-ups because they can trip coming off the mound That is something you learn early on in little league
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:41 pm
0-2 Hitting With R.I.S.P…But lately that doesn’t matter because we have been hitting at our best 3rd time through the lineup…
J-X
May 25th, 2009
4:41 pm
you guys think they will think more about derosa now that infante is out and obviously Chipper is going to have one nagging issue or another?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:41 pm
They just replayed Kent’s No Hitter in 94
Derek
May 25th, 2009
4:42 pm
Is anyone else’s volume not working for SportsSouth on Comcast?? All other volumes are working besides SS.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:42 pm
Wind is blowing out, could be a couple of long balls today
Just give it an inning or two (or a pitch or two) and I bet it will change
Adolf Hitler
May 25th, 2009
4:42 pm
My favorite rule in Major League Baseball is the DH rule.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:42 pm
Tim Hudson listens to Dave Matthews Band, not bad.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:43 pm
MLH, I’ve Seen Infielders trip over the mound as well, so its kind of a moot point…I was mainly bashing Major league pitchers becuase they learn how to catch pop ups at an early age as everyone knows…
Kentavo
May 25th, 2009
4:43 pm
I see the Braves getting tooled by Giants because of the good pitching and no Chippie and Yuni.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:43 pm
just one more reason to love Huddy
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
4:44 pm
Interested Observer I was wondering the same thing.
J-X
May 25th, 2009
4:44 pm
The giants aren’t as good so far this year as the jays, and we didn’t have chipper or yunel then either. At least the last couple games.
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
4:45 pm
Dave Matthews Band…not a fan. And to quote Daniel Tosh- “If that upsets you, then you are whats wrong with America. Just because someone has an opinion different than yours, you feel personally attacked.”
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
4:45 pm
ahhhhhhhhhhh
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
4:46 pm
THIS JUST IN!!!!!!………………….Im retarded
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
4:46 pm
I look at our line-up today and just marvel that we are competitive this year.
MLH
May 25th, 2009
4:46 pm
Tomahawkin,
Yeah I know. I was mainly talking about pitchers coming off the mound to catch a fly ball
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:46 pm
Man Javy Is looking Good!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:47 pm
This is the first time I’ve seen what Brian Sabean looked like.
AtlBravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:47 pm
Where is Bobby’s Cox to hype up Nelson Cruz with all of this trade talk? Cruz just hit number 12 for Texas. He has 32 Rbi’s now and he also stole #8 today.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
4:48 pm
I was thinking a young Theo Epstein looking guy. ~_~
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
4:49 pm
DOB: “… and the Braves will have a chance to keep making hay.” In the case of these ballplayers, a more appropriate euphemism would be “……..keep making lettuce,” don’t you think?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
4:49 pm
MLH, I know. It’s just something I’ve always liked to complain about…
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
4:49 pm
Kentavo: So the Braves just beat Roy Halladay and a swept a series against Toronto without Chipper in the lineup (including two games without Yunel), but you don’t think they can beat the offensively-challenged Giants in a series that begins with Jonathan Sanchez (1-4, 4.74 ERA) and ends with 2009-era Randy Johnson (3-4, 6.26)?
Am I missing something?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:50 pm
MLH, Got Ya…
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
4:51 pm
DOB and folks…just wanted to say Happy Memorial Day to all…and a little personal bio that is apropo to the day and the blog…your US government is currently footing the bill for my medical school education (along w/ a nice stipend that allows me to eat steak on occasion)…and for that reward I will serve a minimum of 4 years in the US Army as a physician…and since I will be specializing in Psychiatry…I will be encountering numerous veterans who deal with a whole host of psychological issues…not the least of which is PTSD. I promise all I’ll work to avoid the hassles of getting good treatment for these vets and as my dad likes to say “be part of the solution and not the problem”…ya’ll just can’t be giving me too much grief for my obsessive Braves fanatacism-when clearly I could be studying!!! Go Braves
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
4:51 pm
Cut that meat!! Cut that meat!! Cut that meat!!
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
4:54 pm
Yes, DOB, you are missing something. You’re missing the fact that we fare much worse against mediocre to bad teams than we do against good teams.
Osama bin Ladin
May 25th, 2009
4:54 pm
My favorite MLB statistic is the save.
William Tecumseh Sherman
May 25th, 2009
4:55 pm
Sorry Osama, I like RBIs.
The Truth
May 25th, 2009
4:56 pm
Is it me, or does Francoeur rarely hit the ball hard anymore?
bravesfan07
May 25th, 2009
4:56 pm
im afraid he might be right dob the braves just dont seem to get fired up when they play bad teams
AtlBravesfan
May 25th, 2009
4:57 pm
Why is everyone freakin’ out? We’ve won 5 of 6 and flew cross country and are playing a day game in chilly Frisco. It’s only the 4th inning. Give the team a chance to acclimated. It’s not like Javy’s not holding down the fort in the meantime.
Chillax people.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:57 pm
This Is It People
The Braves are 13-7 against teams that are over .500 this year…
While They are 11-12 against teams that have played less than .500 baseball this year, letting their guard down against the Jubroni teams
Proof that this team comes correct when the play the good teams of the league
So Far The team is thinking that the giants are gonna let their guard down to them
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
4:57 pm
El Verdad: Frenchy hit the ball hard all four at bats Judy and I saw on Saturday night. He just can’t hit it hard over the fence anymore.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
4:58 pm
If there’s anyone not getting the game MLB Tonight is going to be on the MLB Network for the next 4 hours…they may do a live look in on the game.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
4:58 pm
Other than Javy’s double, the Braves look anemic today. They’re hitting the ball, but it doesn’t seem to be carrying at all.
Fortunately, the Giants look even more anemic.
If I had to call it now, I would say that this game ends in a 0-0 tie or else someone ends up walking in a run and it ends 1-0.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
4:59 pm
Dizam, I didn’t know that Edgar had 2100 hits…!
Mark
May 25th, 2009
4:59 pm
Chillax
I hate you.
Chipper"You Know Who"Jones
May 25th, 2009
4:59 pm
Guys, my toe hurts, so bug off! I’ll play when I’m doggon good and ready!
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:01 pm
Anyone remember that HR Renteria hit vs. the Mets in a day game back in 2007 to take a lead and eventually beat those hosers?…that was awesome
bravesfan07
May 25th, 2009
5:02 pm
so whatever happened to derek from marietta i kindda miss his humoriosm lol
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:02 pm
1st legit hit
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:02 pm
Bravesfan07,
I was more joking than serious. I think it’s more randomness than a trend.
Osama Bin Laden,
Hilarious post.
AtlBravesfan
May 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
Tomahawkin,
Throw out those stats if the braves lose 2 out of 3. Why throw them out in the 1st game of a road trip where they flew cross country? Sanchez is a decent pitcher btw. Your expectations are high. Ever seen a pitcher’s duel?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
Damn Winn!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
Molina fell into him making that swing, but don’t see how you could call interference, which is what Cox wants I’m sure.
AtlBravesfan
May 25th, 2009
5:03 pm
Mark,
Take a chill pill and Chillax man…
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
Should have been interference!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
If This Games Boils Down To who runs the most and which team is more sucessful at running, then we got our work cut out 4 us….
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
Just kidding ~_~
I know he just fell.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
Winn steals second on a bad throw by McCann. Molina (the batter) bumped McCann’s leg and impeded McCann’s follow through. Bobby argues. Too bad, Braves.
Marietta Derek's Mom
May 25th, 2009
5:04 pm
so whatever happened to derek from marietta i kindda miss his humoriosm lol
He was badly injured while attempting to apply his aerosol deodorant while doing a trick on a motorcycle while in the air. He’ll be released from Grady of June 5th.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:05 pm
Good Analogy Joe….!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:05 pm
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:05 pm
f****k
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:05 pm
Strike out here please.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
Wild pitch moves the runner to third with one out. Winn shouldn’t even be on the bases.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
McCann looked scared when that ball hit the dirt, did not even look at ir
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
B-Macc WTF “Get in front of the damn ball enough of this O-lay Bullshyt!!!”
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
YO DOB
My Bad. I might not have worded that correctly, I meant the Braves moving into first place in the division while they were riding their current hot streak and the Mets and Phils were not exactly playing their best. I wasn’t talking about a trade move. Although I do agree that if they do it will be sooner than the deadline.
What I was referring to was the emotional and psychological lift that players feel, especially younger ones, when their team takes over first place. Adding a little more confidence and so called “swagger” to their play. I think it is important that the Braves get into first place now, even if it is only temporary, while the division is wide open. It would add a little vigor to the team and the fans. In a way sort of rekindle the winning attitude of the Braves franchise. First place could have that affect and help the team in the second half knowing that they were already there and are close in contention.
Chasing the lead from second or third place all year adds an extra level of grind to the season. It’s good to be out front a little too.
What do you think about that??
Random
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
DOB — I believe that Capt Caveman was asking about the importance of the Braves making a move in the standings (ie, into 1st place in the NL East), rather than a player personnel move.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
5:06 pm
Does anyone else getting a bad feed from SportsSouth?
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
Is anyone else? Duh
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
Whew! Thank you Kotchman.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
Pop up on the in-field. Another adventure. Kotchman makes the play this time.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
Man, I get Scared Watching this Team on Pop-Up plays…lol
Random
May 25th, 2009
5:07 pm
I’ll shut up now.
NYCBrave
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
Where does this ballpark rank amongst your favorites DOB?
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
Come on…bear down Javy!!!
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
I was watching, and listening to that at bat, and Sutton called the remainder of the pitch sequence perfectly when the count was 0-2 (although he did not foresee the one that got away).
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
Strike Out
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
Ah-Lay, Javy…Rico!!!! Nice
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
Got out of it! Nice, Javy!
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:08 pm
How BOUT Javy Vasquez!!!!!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
Vazquez strikes out Brave-killer Fred Lewis to strand the runner on third. I stand by my 0-0 tie prediction!
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
Way to get out of trouble Javy. He’s the f’n man.
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
Hey Random, Thanks for that,
BTW, what do you think about that theory?
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
5:09 pm
Capt Caveman”What I was referring to was the emotional and psychological lift that players feel, especially younger ones, when their team takes over first place.”
Lets see the Marlins were in 1st and now how are they doing? Lets see the Mets were in 1st place and now how are they doing?
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
5:11 pm
Couple parts of that inning made me think of vacuums…
Need to get that CS% back into the 30’s…27%, now, dangit…
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
5:12 pm
I mean, folks, “Logan” just looked AWFUL on that swing.
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
ohhhh Schafer schafer schafer
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
Will Bobby let Schafer’s avg. slip below .200 before he benches him? what’s it going to take? He is looking worse by the day
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
Come on with the bat again Javy
DiamondbackMac
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
Vasquez 56 pitches, 37 strikes through 4
Sanchez 56 pitches, 38 strikes through 4
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
worst outfield in baseball and we are 23-20-amazing
The Truth
May 25th, 2009
5:13 pm
Schafer should not be playing baseball at this level right now. Wren should target an outfielder who can play all outfield spots. How about Maron Byrd? Francoeur for Byrd, straight up.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
5:14 pm
This Sanchez guy looks like he’s murder on lefties…
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:14 pm
D.O.B.
Are you a big FourBucks (Starbucks) Junkie?
I despise that place I don’t know what the craze is with their overpriced products….
Give me some Coffee mixed with Bailey’s or a Slurpee anyday…
Andruw Jones and Jeff Francoeur
May 25th, 2009
5:14 pm
Will Bobby let Schafer’s avg. slip below .200 before he benches him? what’s it going to take?
Cox will give him a million chances. Trust us, we know.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:14 pm
That guy in the stands lol.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:14 pm
Vasquez hits the ball farther than Francoer.
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
5:15 pm
Frenchy for Delmon Young or some kind of deal for Aaron Rowand, if they can make the money work out.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
5:15 pm
Well besides Joe and Boog kissin each others butts, not much else going on.
vazques
May 25th, 2009
5:16 pm
he makes work sanchez more than our profesional hitters. he saw like 8 pitches. schafer 3 and hernandez 2.
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
5:16 pm
schafer would be cut from my church league softball team. Jesus he is green. BOUT THAT MOUF!!!
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
5:16 pm
18 Wheels, Giants are having more offensive troubles than we are, so Rowand probably stays there. I like Cruz from Texas.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:17 pm
Man I was on the Vazquez “Hater-Nation” bandwagon when that trade was made but after 10 starts he has been more than advertised….!
With better run support he has 7 wins at least by now…
Now if the AWFense Can get to CY Sanchez…Come On!
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:18 pm
Time to bring up Gorkys he could do no worse than Schafer
booquinn
May 25th, 2009
5:20 pm
No sound on SportsSouth here, anyone else having issues?
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
5:20 pm
I saw Delmon Young when he was playing for the … (wait for it) … AA Montgomery Biscuits, a few years ago. No doubt about his talent, some questions about his attitude — and, more importantly, his power. He doesn’t walk or hit the ball over the fence. Two MAJOR drawbacks.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
5:21 pm
I can’t believe with this being Memorial Day….that ESPN didn’t have slew full of games on today.
They do on Labor Day.
DCBrave
May 25th, 2009
5:21 pm
Enter your comments here
DCBrave
May 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
Tomahawkin-
You mean Cychez.
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
Enter your comments here
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
OK, now that was obstruction.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:22 pm
McCann gets interfered with AGAIN! on the steal. What is up with this home plate umpire? Do you have to mug the catcher to get a call?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
Another F’d Up Non-Call By The Umpiring Posse!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
B-Macc!!!! Come On!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
Another strike out here and then a pop up would be nice.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
Another wild pitch. Runner at third with one out again.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
This is not McCann’s finest hour.
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
Is it just me or is Bobby not arguing as much this year. How many times have we seen him come out on the field this year?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:23 pm
Javy Has not had his One inning of the game Yet, Not Good…! I think this inning might be it
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
5:24 pm
You know Jaramillo might be pushing to get Frenchy since he is his star pupil and all.
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
5:25 pm
have a day brian mcann….. jesus you would think they would practice throws to second base but i guess not. and one would also think they would practice balls in the dirt but i guess not….
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:25 pm
It’s like DeJa Vu all over again.
DCBrave
May 25th, 2009
5:25 pm
AndyC-
I said yesterday Cox has become a chicken this year.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:25 pm
There’s your run.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:26 pm
Andy C,
I will Co-Sign, Wit Bobby being to Complacent this year, I guess he wants Chipper to do the arguing since hes the leader
I was Really suprised That Bobby C didn’t argue in that game at Philly with the C. Hamels Obstruction Non-Call
And then B. Myers Throwing at Kamakaze, WTF Bobby?
But You’re Right!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:26 pm
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:26 pm
Left that straight fastball right over the plate. On a tee.
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
5:26 pm
Umpire 1 —- Braves 0
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:26 pm
Game still not over, still some time. *says with trying to be optimistic*
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
Bobby hasn’t been ejected this year, has he?
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
If you don’t walk Burriss, you’ve got to at least avoid giving him anything to hit there.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
Thats the ballgame.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
Did Mac call for that?
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
Bad play by Javy to try to get the runner at second on the bunt. Everybody safe.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:27 pm
Eeeks!
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Not surging now are they Dave, what a dumb play. Here is where the Braves show their true colors. A below average team!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Well This Javy’s 1 bad Inning…Not Good with this AWFense!
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
GO TO FIRST WHEN THEY’RE GIVING YOU AN OUT
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Safe at second.
This is where Javy needs to reel it in and avoid the big(ger) inning.
Braveheart
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Grilling in the back yard this afternoon, throwing b.p. to my one year old nephew who doesn’t realize that he should swing when I throw it to him. He waits for the ball to stop rolling, then races over to it, and starts getting all caveman on the ball, beating the ever living hell out of it with his bat while the ball lays helplessly on the ground, and while he yells “Bat! Ball!” over and over. Crazy lil’ bugger. Also listening to the broadcast, and have gotta say, this Powell guy is outstanding. Don and Jim seem to have good chemistry already. Not Skip and Pete obviously, but these guys’ll do just fine.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Impressive AB by Rowand.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Wouldve been three outs genius. Great Job Javy.
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
In the words of Marvin Gaye in “What’s Goin’ On,” when he sings, “Shafer’s not the answer.”
Oh, and not a wise move by Javy on going to second on the bunt. Could see that coming a mile away.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
If Javy had taken the free out (or the umpire had made the correct call on that interference) Braves would be in the dugout now. Instead, the inning goes on.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:28 pm
Bobby needs to wake up the team, they are all still asleep on the plane.
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
Damn, you folks are incredible micro managers.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
Man Braveshater, Are You a Melts Fan…? You are off da chain when it comes to Clowning D.O.B.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
Mcann needs to work more his defense and stop spending so much time with Mr. Glass in the cage. Game Over folks.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
3-0 Game Over!!! With This AWFENSE
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
here’s the blowup
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:29 pm
OK, Game might be ove……:-(
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Et tu, Edgar?
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Just when you think the Braves are turning the corner, they go back to being that sub .500 team that cant hit. Mac is killing us definsively. And that is really the ballgame, we cant score 1 run much less 3.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Renteria gives the Giants two more runs. Wheels are coming off for Javy in this inning.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
That inning is all Javy’s doing there. He screwed himself, but whatever.
Ymir The Frost Giant
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Enter your comments here
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
This is “THE INNING” that Javy has every game. Bad decision on the bunt throw to second cost him.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Umpire 2 Giants 1 Braves 0
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
If Mcann could throw just a little bit, the inning would have been over. He’s the one to blame.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
Wouldn’t have happened if Vasquez took the out.
I can’t figure why pitchers sometimes refuse to just take the out at first. They’re GIVING it to you!
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
5:30 pm
McCann needs to use a kick save to stop those pitches in the dirt.
Is it just me thinking of Javy Lopez everytime I hear them say “Javy?” There’s only been one Javy on this team. “J-Lo” would be better for #33.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
5:31 pm
TnBrian
Contract aside, etc and what the Braves might need to do with swinging a deal….between Holiday and Dye….I’d rather have Dye than Holiday.
Holiday ain’t done **** for the A’s so far this season..which means, he can’t do much outside Launching Pad #2 called Coors Field.
Maybe the Braves somehow swing two deals…one for DeRosa and one for Dye. I still can’t understand why the Cubs dealt DeRosa to begin with. I know why the cut ties with Kerry Wood….but DeRosa….it just didn’t make sense to me.
How bout them them two added to the lineup?
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
5:31 pm
…Wait…I thought Javier was supposed to be getting good run support?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:32 pm
I told You guys that this team only shows up when they play above .500 tams
The Braves are 13-7 against teams that are over .500 this year…
While They are 11-12 against teams that have played less than .500 baseball this year, letting their guard down against the Jubroni teams
Proof that this team comes correct when the play the good teams of the league
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:32 pm
18 Wheels of Love: So the Giants, who are looking to add a big bat, desperate to add one, are going to trade Aaron Rowand in a deal that brings Francoeur to San Fran?
I don’t think that’s what they have in mind.
Shaggy
May 25th, 2009
5:32 pm
Chipper Jones, where are you?
JJ
May 25th, 2009
5:32 pm
What a sad bunch of fans. Game over at 1-0? Now it’s REALLY over at 3-0? Some of you folks are pathetic.
Ymir The Frost GIANT
May 25th, 2009
5:33 pm
I’ve read this blog often enough to know that the headlive practically guarantees that the Giants will win today. One run ought to do it. You guys should be coming down for the series from the high of playing the Jays. Bye bye Braves
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
5:33 pm
No, I don’t believe Bobby has been thrown out of a game this year. He is the all time record holder. I wonder if he has ever gone this far in a season without getting thrown out of a game.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:33 pm
I dont care who we get, but Francour has to go. He’s a walking stinkbomb on the diamond.
DCBrave
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
I’m not watching the game, but is MaCann wearing his glasses when he catches? If not, maybe he’s got some problem seeing the ball coming to him clearly.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
Dammit, I should’ve called for the AWFense to spot Javy some runs early today like I did 4 Double J yesterday…
Anyways, lets get out of this Inning!
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
Frank, who knows, maybe they both end up Braves, but I’ll bet Wren gets one OF.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
Finally, McDowell comes out to chat with Javy. I hope he hit the “reset” button.
Chipper Jones
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
My toe hurts.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
Let this inning end….
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:34 pm
Braves gonna be on the wrong end of the sweep this time. If we cant score runs off of dirty Sanchez, we sure as hell arent gonna get any off Lincecum or the 84 year old RJ.
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
5:35 pm
I think this is the patented Vazquez blow up inning.
Ymir The Frost GIANT
May 25th, 2009
5:35 pm
What a sad bunch of fans. Game over at 1-0? Now it’s REALLY over at 3-0? Some of you folks are pathetic.
JJ
they got that right JJ. You guys are toast already. Vazquez always finds a way to give up a cluster of runs. Too bad, so sad. Giants are rad.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:36 pm
When Javy loses it, he REALLY loses it lol.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:36 pm
Thank you Diaz!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:36 pm
JJ, 3-0 = Game Over, “Bank On It!”
No Offense, but Apparently you haven’t watched this anemic AWFense Perform this year have you…?
I’m gonna Reserve Judgement for Bennett today…But The AWFense Needs To step it up…
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
Anyone know how we perform against .500 or better teams a then how we do against sub .500 teams?
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
Bobby is using psychology on Vazquez. With men on, he has Bennett up in the blow-pen. Javy has to know that those men on base are coming in if he doesn’t get this guy at the plate.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
We can blame Javy for throwing to 2nd BUT isn’t the catcher the one who tells you what base to throw to?
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
Ymir the queer, your annoying. The Giants are what 10 games out of first place? lol
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
That is why JV will never be a great pitcher eats innings but cant ever avoid the BIG inning.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:37 pm
A Giants troll? Doesn’t he/she know the Giants are 9.0 games out of first?
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
5:38 pm
Braveheart,
Explain VORP, EqA, and BABIP to him when he needs a nap. Hee hee..
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:39 pm
JJ,
Not that I endorse their negative attitudes, but our offense is really crappy. And coming back from a 3 run defecit even against Jonathan Sanchez (who we are currently making look luke Bob Gibson as we frequently do against bad pitchers), is going to be tough.
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
its over guys. braves are dead. have no fire in them. offense cant come from behind.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
Take one for the team, or at least swing at pitches right over the middle moron.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
That inning was disgusting…bet the umps wouldn’t call interference if the batter jumped on top of McCann.
And why in heck did Vaz throw to second? My gosh…they wouldn’t have scored so much if he’da made that freaking play at first! Dang dang dang…
Dangit!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
Is It Me Or has AT&T park been a House of Horrors for the Braves…?
I still have Flashbacks of Chipper injuring himself on that torn up infield they had here a couple of years ago…But It seems like the braves bont play well here…
Well I do believe in 2005 Ryan Langerhans had his best career game here…
Unknown also
May 25th, 2009
5:40 pm
Yeah the Giants are 10 games out, but aren’t they beating the Braves moron?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
Kelly The Man!
KC
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
Javier Vazquez has trouble keeping his composure sometimes, doesn’t he?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
There W
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
that didn’t suck
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
Kelly hit it to the right spot for a stand-up triple, the wrong spot for a homer. Only The Head could hit it out there.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
KJ dunks a triple past Winn in RF.
Winn looked alot like GA jogging after that ball.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:41 pm
There We Go KJ, Its about Time
JJ
May 25th, 2009
5:42 pm
Tomahawkin –
Yeah, I just imagined them scoring 10 yesterday, 4 Saturday, 12 last Wednesday, and 8 last Tuesday.
And now KJ triples to start off the 6th.
But please…..continue your ill-informed rant.
KC
May 25th, 2009
5:42 pm
I’m ok with sending Vazquez out there in the 6th, but if he doesn’t retire the leadoff man… you’ve got to yank him immediately.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:42 pm
Patience is the key here.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
5:42 pm
Why does Kelly hit lefties so well?
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:43 pm
3-0 on Prado. Meeting at the mound.
Candlesticks make a great wedding gift.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:43 pm
Let’s hope this is the inning that Sanchez loses it…
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:43 pm
About to walk Prado. Patience is the key here, as they said Sanchez doesn’t react well to adversity.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
It’d be 1-0 if he took the out……
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
2nd time in a row the opposing team has had a mound visit in the middle of a count.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
Steve,
The better question is why do they platoon Kelly by sitting him against lefties and playing him against righties?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
1st and 3rd w/ no out…Gotta get 1 here, No Fcking DPS…!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
On the second ball 4, umpire awards Prado first base. (The 3-0 was low too, but got the strike call.)
1st and 3rd. No one out. Diaz at the plate.
Jay212033
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
Seriously why are some of you even Braves fans?!?!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:44 pm
Sorry if it was posted twice. Computer error or something.
Come on Diaz!
JJ
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
PWH –
On the whole, the offense is pretty anemic. I agree we have definite problems in that area. But to proclaim that the game is over at 1-0 is simply idiotic. Not that that surprises me coming from those that are calling it quits in the 5th inning.
brian
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
as far as big bats go – I went to the Myrtle Beach Pelicans game on Friday night and the big 3 put on a show. Heyward hit a HR to left-center field. Also had a stolen base in the game. Cody Johnson hit a bomb that had to have gone well over 130 feet – it went over the CF wall and the bigger green wall behind that. Freddie Freeman also had a couple hits including a double. They also could not be nicer to fans – both young and old. Rohrbough looked good – pitched 5.2 innings I believe and gave up 1 run. Very few hard hit balls against him. Control was a problem though.
Cody Johnson has to be moving back up the BRaves prospect list (though on his first bat he looked like a lefty Frenchy swinging at bad pitches). He is hitting .275 or so with now 16 home runs (at the end of Friday). If he continues to develop patience at the plate which he did show later in the game, he could make an impact. Except for maybe Michael Stanton in the Marlins organization Cody shows more power than any prospect I have seen in a long time
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
Sanchez has lost the strike zone ala Kris Medlen.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
But to answer the question on why KJ hits lefties so well, he’s said in interviews before that he is concentrating more on not “pulling off” of the pitch, since lefties tend to throw their breaking pitches to left-handed hitters more often.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
Is Justin Miller a former Marlin?
Tommy D
May 25th, 2009
5:45 pm
Just got in in time to see the poor defensive play and Edgar burn us.
BTW, those are the ugliest caps I’ve ever seen. Who gets paid to come up with this crap? Onlt way to make them worse would be to cross the A with a tomahawk.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
JJ, I will Back at you later on that comment…They haven’t showed up today…(At least the AWFense)…We’ll see
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
Bases loaded for McCann
RANDOM STUPIDITY
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
Enter your stupid comments here.
KC
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
Wow… he walked Diaz. Not an easy thing to do.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
Where is Shaun? I want to know what our run-expectancy is in this position!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
Diaz walks. And you KNOW it had to be nowhere close to the strike zone for Matty to lay off.
Bases loaded. No one out.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:46 pm
B-Macc Come On!!!! You have Been Our MVP on Offense…
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:47 pm
Your absolutely right Bravos229-Mcann blew the last inning, lets hope he can make up for it.
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
5:47 pm
Won’t show in the box score…but Kelly probably caused those walks…
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
5:47 pm
RC–2.3!
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Wow….I know he was taking all the way, but that’s a pitch that Mac could have put in the bay
Dutchie
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Go on guys, time for some optimism maybe? Bases full, no outs, lets hear a cheer?
Love the optimism!
Go Bravos
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Gotta Get 2 in this Inning, Come On AWFense!
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Enter your comments here
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
its over guys. braves are dead. have no fire in them. offense cant come from behind. — MP31 at 5:40 p.m.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
McCann
Braveheart
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Explain VORP, EqA, and BABIP to him when he needs a nap. Hee hee.. (COUCH TATER)
LOL, Hopefully, that’ll work, because anytime I try to put that kid down for a nap, it turns into a three hour wrestling match.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
There We Go B-Macc!
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
there goes the shutout.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Great AB! That was a Chipper-esque swing
JJ
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
There you go Mac. 3-1 now.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
Brian McCann is pretty good at baseball.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:48 pm
McCann with a chipperesque 2 strike hit
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
How could any Giant fans clap for that guy?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Bye Bye Sanchez
Mark
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Oh no….FRANCOEUR!
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Im surprised anyone made a pitching chacnge for Francour. Who coaches the Giants again. Wow.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Brian McCann is pretty good at baseball.
Ya think? Lol!
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Sanchez is a chucklehead.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:49 pm
Mcann is pretty good at hitting, but his defense sucks!
Mrs. Catie Francoeur
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
Nicely done, BMac. Rut roh, rally killer Francoeur is up. Just strike out and sit down Frenchy. No DP or TP, please.
Tommy D
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
Lets have a Big inning! (ugly caps and all)
DukeBoy
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
I predict a sac fly from Francouer…
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
DOB,
Can we somehow different the posts of those people that say things like “Game over” when it’s the 5th inning? Kind of how your posts are in grey, can we make those posts show up in all black or something (including the words in black)?
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
francoeur needs to put the ball in play. let us score. even if its a double play.
Dutchie
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
Sorry Mc Fann: ánd girls!
Tying run on second, no outs still!
Go Bravos!
Fail
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
its over guys. braves are dead. have no fire in them. offense cant come from behind.
You’re doing it wrong.
Frenchy Will Hit Into DP
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
yep
David
May 25th, 2009
5:50 pm
Enter your comments here
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
Oh No, Rally Killer Frenchie…Come On!
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
strike out is not an option for francoeur
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
Oh yeah, uh-huh…the guy hops in front of McCann, the ball gets to the base but the tag is late, Vaz threw to second instead of first…yeah, McCann sooo blew that inning…
On the plus side, his AVG is .319, and his AVG with RISP is .348! 18 RBI, now. Whoo-hoo!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
I hope Francœur can do something here. Can’t imagine the haters if he stinks it up.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
This guy sucks. He’s a disgrace to the number 7.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
We don’t have to vote for McCann. He’ll be on the team whether he gets voted on or not.
Frenchy Will Hit Into DP
May 25th, 2009
5:51 pm
Just like yesterday, wailing at the first pitch with men in scoring position. At least he struck out!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Frenchie In the Fifth Spot was Bobby on Xanax when he Filled out the lineup card?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Strike Out ugh
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Please release Francouer, only he could suck that bad with the bases loaded.
RC
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Wow….that was hack-tastic
Boo
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Predictable.
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
…better than a DP I guess.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
get him the fuc outta here. Damn how much of this do we have to watch. Damnit.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Come on Kotchman, snap out of slump please.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Francoer is finished here imo-the writing is on the wall.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Come On! KotchMeister!!!!
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
god frenchy is nothing but garbage…. so sad.
Ymir The Frost GIANT
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Ymir the queer, your annoying. The Giants are what 10 games out of first place?
Unknown
whatever,mean old potty mouth who can’t even post under a real screen name, we are gonna kick some Braves butt. The Braves are toast on the coast.So there !
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
5:52 pm
Jeff Francoeur,
Get off my team.
MariettaDerek
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
That AB by Frenchy was definitely NOT double pits to chesty.
northbeach Scott
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
*Nicely done, BMac. Rut roh, rally killer Francoeur is up. Just strike out and sit down Frenchy. No DP or TP, please.*
KC
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
Alright… I’ve been a Francouer defender, but after showing signs of righting the ship lately, I’ve been very unimpressed the last couple days. If he doesn’t turn it around here within the next couple weeks, it’ll be time to part ways.
RANDOM STUPIDITY
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
FFFFFFRRRRRREEEEEEENNNNNNNCCCCCCCCCYYYYYYYY, leave’em loaded ! Yea Baby!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
The slow-mo of that swing by Francoeur looked bad. Doing all kinds of little things, mixing and matching from his old approach and what was supposed to be his new. Not good….
Meanwhile, on McCann: He was 2-for-20 against lefties before he went on the DL. He’s 6-for-16 against them since he came off DL.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
Yikes Frenchy is, uh…the opposite of McCann.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:53 pm
I’m Now Really Getting on The get Rid of Francoeur Bandwagon…Ive been trying to give him some slack but he aint cuttin it!
Boo
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
Ymir The Frost GIANT…you’ve enjoyed one too many bathhouses there in San Fran-freakshow.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
Kotchman hit that to the folks in the walkway above RF. But about 40 feet foul.
ease19
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
Is Medlen still scheduled to start tomorrow?
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
man we suck.
Bill N.
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
Yikes Frenchy is, uh…the opposite of McCann.
Francoeur: Goofus
McCann: Gallant
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:54 pm
A Walk!
I’ll take it!
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Great AB, Casey.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
KOTCHMEISTER… AT A Boy!!!!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Feels like we’re seeing a bases-loaded walk every other game. Amazing how many around baseball this year.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
I called at least one run via bases loaded walk. There it is!
(OK, my 0-0 tie prediction was garbage.)
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
I can’t imagine what Frenchy feels like inside, but that at bat was unexcusable! Unreal! Just put wood on the baseball and go from there. Nope, not Jeff…gotta try and ambush the pitcher on the first pitch.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Come on Diory!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Come On Diory…! Get Tough!!!
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Anybody still saying that the Braves never get any breaks?
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Kotchman showing Jeff how to be a major league hitter.
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Bases loaded walks are our specialty, huh? : )
DukeBoy
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Keep Frenchy…he’ll be alright.
Rob in Mobile
May 25th, 2009
5:55 pm
Frenchy looks like the confused guy the scouts were talking about last year. I’ve never seen a hitter look so lost as he does at times. He’s thinking way too much…..
good eye by Kotchman…
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
no way that was a strike!!!!!!!!!!!
Dutchie
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
Ymir….
I love your ‘real screen name’….How rich is thát?! I’m wondering what a fake screen name would be….
Take a swim in the bay and enjoy that, instead of being on here, would ya? Let’s keep those runs walking in please….
Go Bravos!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
Boooo! They should have got the guy out at 1st ~_~
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
We needed a fly ball there, too bad the rook was up in that spot.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
After a BS strike one call, Hernandez hits to third and forces Diaz at the plate. Bases loaded, 2 out, Schafer at the plate.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:56 pm
Well At least It wasn’t a DP…I’m Glad Loaf wasn’t Running
K-FER, COME ON!!!!!
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Diory, Queefer, & pitcher spot is an automatic 3 outs most of the time.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
The worst lineup of all-time. With Schaffer up. 3 outs. Wow, did u see that swing.
DirtyYuni
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Big spot Logan. You got it in you?
BRAVES ARE LOSERS
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Jeff Francoeur + Braves = NO PLAYOFFS
Joe Schmoe
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Oh no, Schaffer!!!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
This teams situational hitting is attrocious. It even sucked during hte Blue Jays series. Got to learn to score runs without hits (except for the basesloaded walks, lol)!!!
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Elvis Andrus could be playing for Hernadez.
Schaffer doesnt have a fucin clue what he is doing.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
5:57 pm
Kotchman doesn’t hit for the power we need out of first base, but in every other aspect of the game he is a consumate professional. Every at bat is PROFESSIONAL.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
Gawd! K-FER needs to be in AAA! That was painful to watch…
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
Geez two of our 9 hitters have no friggin clue
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
God, Schafer sucks, this kid needs to be sent down like right now.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
Schafer KFer
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
Oh schafer schafer schafer
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
wow he sux
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
stick a fork in schafer hes done.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
That was terrible, What is Josh Anderson hitting again? How many stolen bases does he have. Schaffer’s a BUM.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
Jordan and Frenchy both trying to hit the ball in the water and what happens…they strike out. Wow, what a waste.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
5:58 pm
When you load bases with none out, you don’t really want Francoeur and Schafer to be two of the next four guys coming up.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Schafer and Francoer costing the team here.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Well, there’s still a chance though for sure. Just gotta get a 1 2 3 inning here.
Chipper Jones
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Logan, you dig my scouting report?????
Mr. Enigma
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Can the Braves get a special DH rule so that Jordan Schafer never has to hit ever again? He is seriously terrible. At this point, his hitting to so awful, I’d trade in his defense for a mediocre defender who didn’t suck as bad as he does with the bat.
cricket
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Well, Logan is still better than JF with bases juiced. He’s not going to GIDP, can’t make contact to save his life..
JJ
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Oy…Shaf. The two swinging strikes weren’t anywhere near the zone. Not good indeed.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
DOB = Captain Obvious
MP31
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
schafer has a lower batting average than three of the starting pitchers in the rotation. what a mess
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
5:59 pm
Figures Frenchy and Schafer would SO.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
2 Fucin runs out of a bases loaded no out situation. What a shame, Turner field will never sell out this season.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
Simply Put this Team doesn’t Come Correct against Sub-.500 Teams…
Another wasted start by Vazquez…ARRRRGGGHHHH!
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
Schafer needs to have an accident in the shower and sit for a couple of weeks,ala Mike Hampton.
steve_97060
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
as much as I hate to admit it, JS is totally over matched and would benefit from going down to Triple A… how long do they let this go on…
Jim Hertel
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
JeffF actually had a good at bat, for him. At least he didn’t hit into a double play.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
How was that inning a waste? The Braves got two runs back after the Giants scored three. They gave us two runs, folks. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Teams have been giving us gifts all year. Last season, we get a strikeout and a double play in that situation. Open your eyes. I don’t think this team is great, but if teams are going to keep helping us out, we’re going to be in this all year.
MP31
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
on gameday it shows that he swung at three balls to strike out. is that true?
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
6:00 pm
DOB Meanwhile, on McCann: He was 2-for-20 against lefties before he went on the DL. He’s 6-for-16 against them since he came off DL.
Nice.
DirtyYuni
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
Well the table couldn’t have been set any better for the bottom half of the order. And, surprise surprise, Kotchman’s the only one who delivers. Too bad.
Frenchy and Schafer are good for 8-10 easy outs a game right now.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
Poor kid is lost, but it is what it is right now. Wren, we need a bat, please!
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
I would have pinch hit Chipper for Hernandez there.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
A nice moment of silence there.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
DOB-arent Francour and Schaffer major league players according to our beloved manager, I thought so. So dont make excuses, just say the SUCK.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:01 pm
Not to give Francœur and Schafer a pass for those miserable ABs, but, had Javy thrown to first on the bunt, the Braves would be leading 2-1.
Had the home plate umpire called interference on Molina, the Braves would be leading 2-0.
This suck-fest is a team effort, umpires included.
Mr. Enigma
May 25th, 2009
6:02 pm
@MP31
Yes. None of Schafer’s three strikes were anywhere close to the zone. He’s one of the worst Major League hitters I’ve ever seen. Even 2007 Andruw didn’t look this clueless.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
6:02 pm
Francoeur and Schafer= Rally Killers
Wolfman
May 25th, 2009
6:02 pm
DOB do you think there will be a point Schafer gets sent down? A game or two and he will hit below .200!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:02 pm
Well, Braves got the two runs back the Umps cost them ~_~
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
6:02 pm
braveshater, I don’t know who “Schaffer” is, but he may very well be a bum. Tool.
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
That’s where we could see the injuries REALLY hurt us. We already have Chipper out, but trading Escobar’s bat for D.Hernandez’s bat is a big loss.
And… I like Jordan Schafer, and he does have a lot of talent. But while we’re out shopping for a corner outfielder, we might need to look into a stopgap to get us to Gorkys Hernandez. Schafer looks completely out of place in the big league batter’s box right now. He looks so bad that I’m not so sure this kid’s ever going to be a true big leaguer. Maybe I’m wrong, and I hope I am. But we don’t need another Ryan Langerhanz.
We’re probably not going to be able to get TWO impact bats without giving up half our farm system… but a one big corner outfield bat, plus a Mark Kotsay type (not Kostay… just some kind of healthy version of him) would be fine.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
That’s It Send Fcking K-FER down To AAA….I could understand if he was stealing bases in the 8th spot, but Bobby won’t even let him do that…Bring up B. Jones…! He Can’t do no worse than K-Fer…!
Seriously I’m gonna to be Throwing Shyt at the TV if K-Fer is still up there in August Playing like he is when it matters…
cricket
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
Bobby should seriously consider squeeze with JF and Logan hitting with runner on 3rd
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
MP31, 6:00 pm…”on gameday it shows that he swung at three balls to strike out. is that true?”
Four balls waaaay out of the strike zone were thrown to Schafer. He swung wildly at three of them.
Tommy D
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
He did SO on three balls!
Rob in Mobile
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
“When you load bases with none out, you don’t really want Francoeur and Schafer to be two of the next four guys coming up.”
Which is why I hope the Braves are furiously scouring for someone, anyone that can make consistent contact with runners on. Schafer needs to get his hitting straight in AAA, and Frenchy needs to be on the next train out of town. Heck, I’d take a chance on Jim Edmonds in CF right now. He couldn’t be much worse than Schafer, right?
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
Bobby Cox is the only manager in the majors that lets Schafer hit in that spot. By all rights, Chipper hits in that spot and Garrett Anderson goes in defensively in left with Francoeur in center. Un-friggin-believable. And you guys think this team has a chance to make the playoffs? Cox is the playoff killer.
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
6:03 pm
I fart in schafers general direction
welikebaseball2
May 25th, 2009
6:04 pm
So, I know Schafer & Francouer were once deemed the new Braves’ golden boys & it’s tough to cut ties…but how long do you keep them in the starting lineup or even on the squad? Until the offense officially fades into nothingness? Until they cost us a few more big innings on the way to a few more losses?
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:04 pm
Situational hitting is going to kill this team all year long. Braves couldn’t get guys over in the Toronto series and can’t score runners without hits in this series. Bobby needs to do a lesson on the sac fly. It’s sad when double plays will score runs and we can’t even hit into a double play!!! Bobby might want to pinch hit with Chipper for Schafer or Frenchy in that situation, they are that bad.
Ymir The Frost GIANT
May 25th, 2009
6:04 pm
Hahahaha !!! pathetic. you can’t even score when our stupid pitchers try to let you. What a murderer’s row the last 5 in your line up are. I wasn’t worried at all. What, you guys have scored about half your runs on bases loaded walks. Other teams have to spot you a few just to give you a chance.
welikebaseball2
May 25th, 2009
6:04 pm
boutTHATmouf: LOL!
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
6:05 pm
you would think that scoring two runs and cutting the lead to only one would be a good thing….
but when you blow chances to tack on more runs it kills all of your momentum. i hope im wrong but i could easily see us not scoring another run the rest of the game. it should be tied at least and yet its not. i guess you could look at it as we were fortunate it enough to get 2 runs.
but back to frenchy, its AAA time or flat out releasing him time…. dude wont succeed in this city i think thats quite obvious. its time for a change…for us and him. cut your losses while you can and lets get a real outfielder. although we could have done this in the offseason by signing dunn. if you dont sign anderson and glavine and take frenchy to arb hearings then you have about 6 to work with and surely you can come up with 4 more… i posted this on mlbtraderumors, but what could have been….
escobar
kotchman
chipper
dunn
mcann
johnson
diaz
schafer
would have been nice. i eluded to this earlier but now we are going to not only have to pay big money for an outfielder but we are going to have to part with some prospects, and you all know that our farm system is not in the best of shape right now. frenchy/wren have put us in a bad spot….
Jack
May 25th, 2009
6:05 pm
Please, Francouer has to go.
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
6:05 pm
That Francoeur at bat was bad. Brian, Casey, and Jeff were the veterans with the bases loaded while Diory and Schafer were the rookies. Casey and Brian find a way to get a run home while Jeff goes up there and strikes out and looks like he has no idea what he’s doing. Bases loaded, nobody out, you gotta know who is in trouble. I mean you would think after playing the game with someone like Chipper who is one of the best hitters and having Brian McCann who is young and a great hitter something would rub off.
Dutchie
May 25th, 2009
6:05 pm
Chop CVhop
Couldn’t agree more. Words well spoken.
Go Bravos!
csg
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
Schafer is by no means in the same situation as Frenchy. This is Frenchy’s 5th season and he looks worse today than he ever has. Schafer is learning and makes league minimum
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
Stick a fork in Vasquez…he’s done.
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
Where’s the hook??
Mr. Enigma
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
J.Schafer(ATL): 142 AB, .211/.331, 2 HR, 8 RBI, 51 SO, 1 SB, 1 CS
J.Anderson(DET): 80 AB, .263/.314, 0 HR, 9 RBI, 12 SO, 9 SB, 1 CS
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
MFin04 is back with all of his/her negativity.
Nice bobble Jeffy boy! Take javy OUT! He looks terrible today.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
Hello again, denizens. I see Mark Bradley is going for “most clicks” today.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:06 pm
The Inning Part Two?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:07 pm
Jack,
Co-Sign, Francoeur Has to Go, I’m tired of his act…He needs more seasoning in Gwinnett as well…
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:07 pm
I just said it a few days ago… if Vazquez didn’t retire the leadoff hitter in the 6th, we HAD to go get him. He didn’t retire the leadoff hitter, and BC didn’t go get him, and here we are. BC STILL hasn’t brought the hook. This is F’ing ridiculous. If we lose the game 3-4, it’ll be Bobby’s loss.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:07 pm
Giving up 3 runs and most likely more to this lineup is absolutely ridiculous as well.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Booooooo! He was OUT!
RHR
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Bobby needs to get his ass out there. He was out by a frickin mile.
BlahBlah
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Schafer needs to be sent down to AAA and Gregor Blanco needs to be sent up. All Schafer does is strike out! He cant even make contact with the ball!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
We’re going to have to see that on replay, but it looks like the home plate umpire just gave the Giants another run.
everyone
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
get rid of francine NOW! he f*cking sucks.
braves70
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Can we start Lowe and Vazquez in the OF instead of Schaffer & Francoeur? They have more RBIs and hiots.
YODA HARD AT WORK
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Matt Holliday you do not need. Big right handed bat, Braves do not want. Three time all-star cannot help. Three time silver slugger doesn’t a winner make.
Jeff Francoeur you will keep. He is the golden child. This you will obey.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Or not
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:08 pm
Hell of a slide there.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
McCann whiffed
RHR
May 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
Mac’s having a hell of a day behind the plate today.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
Good throw, great slide. I thought Mac came out a little too far to get it. Might have been better off directly in front of plate, though he might also be concussed right now.
Anyway, great slide.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
or not
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:09 pm
That was an out! McCann brushed him.
Interested Observer
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
That was a spot where you would have pinch hit for Schafer if we had a legitimate CF back-up.
Zap Rowsdower
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
The ONLY WAY he was safe is if BMAC missed the tag. Which by reply shows that the tag was successful. What a load of crap.
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
Jerald I agree totaly we don even have a back up center firlder I just think that Ole BC didnt want to hurt little Jordans feeling he is sensative ya know. By the way Frenchy would have thrown out lewis if he was in center if he would have even tried with his arm.
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
Again, if we lose this game 3-4 or 3-5, this loss should be hung squarely on Bobby Cox. Should have brought the hook after the leadoff guy reached.
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
Could someone look up how many times Schafer strikes out when he starts an at-bat with an 0-1 count? I’m willing to bet it’s in the 90th percentile.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
Looked out….
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
Blah
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:10 pm
BlahBlah, (No Offense) but As Much as K-Fer Sucks, You have to be on something to think that G. Blanco is the Answer
Rob from SC
May 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Schafer does need to go to Triple A. I was against is but after today I agree.
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
In case you are wondering about how Bobby Cox feels about Schafer, Cox was on the radio pregame show and he was simply beaming with man love at how Schafer stood in and took a walk yesterday. Of all the things to get mushy about and that’s all he could come up with. He actually said that Schafer had a great at bat. Cox absolutely does not give a diddly squat about this team winning. If he did, he would give up on wiping some of these guys a$$es that don’t deserve to be up here.
Ymir The Frost GIANT
May 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Like I said, toast on the coast !! 4 runs will be more than enough ! Vazquez sux !
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Pull Javy NOW!!!!
Rob from SC
May 25th, 2009
6:11 pm
Francoeur should have caught that
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Damn Bobby, how many more you gonna let him give up?
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
This one is getting out of hand.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Well it was obvious Javy lost in last inning but Bobby sees it differently.
Rob from SC
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Schafer is swinging at a ton of bad pitches lately
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Tomahawkin, I must be on something because I right now, I’d consider replacing Schafer with a garbage can.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Only The Braves Would Make The Giants AWFense look like the Yankees…
UnF—n Real!!!
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Whatever happened to diving catches in the outfield?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
Do we have anyone who can actually throw TO homeplate and not up the line?
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
The Ole HOFer must be takin a nap not to pull Javy after 1st and 3rd with no out. Stupid decision.
Mike
May 25th, 2009
6:12 pm
For the love of God, what is it going to take to get Wren and Cox to do something proactive about this piece of shi* lineup. Get Schafer sent down already and either bring up somebody else or make a friggin trade. So F-ing sad to watch a team with such talent on the pitching staff (esp after Hansen arrives and Hudson comes back) to blow it cause they got their’re finger stuck up there ass…somebody light a fire under these guys!!!
Interested Observer
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
I was beginning to think the bullpen guys forgot to get on the plane yesterday.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Jerald Holcombe, LOL
AndyC
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Not a good outing for Vazquez.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Vazquez is soo darn inconsistent. Can’t get out of jams. Just awful. Bobby needs to see some of this coming though. Vazquez has been very hittable the last two innings and now the scoreboard shows it.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Good ole Bobby, if he knows nothing, he’s knows timing.
Rodney Derrick
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
What happened to Bobby’s temper? Two inteference situations on stolen bases and the tag at the plate and nada from our HOF super ejected boss
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:13 pm
Javy got knocked around by the worst offense in baseball. Just not his day today.
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
Wow… glad Bobby could make it. Must have been watching a different game up ’til now. But just so long as he makes the pitching change before one of the worst offensive teams in baseball posts a 7-run inning on us… that’ll be fine.
groundfog
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
If Francoer of Schafer do their job though, Chipper pinch hits for Javy and maybe they don’t score 2 more runs. See how Fredo and Schafer are f’n up the team with their minor league hitting?
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
Rob, LATELY? Schafer has been swinging at bad pitches since day one. He is overmatched.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
abwright
Frenchy isn’t a ball player…he’s an Ath-A-lete…..
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
Somebody on the team needs to teach Brian how to throw a hissy fit. Not one intense enough to get tossed from the game, but enough to show he felt he made the play. He needed to have thrown a couple already when he was interfered with, then just now with that tag at the plate. Phantom or not, it may help him get the call the next time.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:14 pm
JD…(No Offense) You Wanna Challenge Me again when I called the AWFense was gonna lose this one…?
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Back down 3 runs, need a miracle.
Booby Cox
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Sorry bloggers, my aching knee’s keep me from making too many trips to the mound.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Since Lincecum and Johnson are good pitchers, maybe they’ll Santana/Halladay em and take the win those ways.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
What A F’d Up Inning…! I could Understand if this happened to the Jays but it’s the Fckin Giants, Cheese-Whiz…!
McFann Ô
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Think this ump hates us, but I’m not gonna go all Mark Bradley on him…at least not now…
Might have been better off directly in front of plate, though he might also be concussed right now.
That wouldn’t be any fun. This game has, um, “stunk” enough as it is…
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:15 pm
Question: Who on this team cannot, to save their life, hit the high inside fastball?
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
6:16 pm
Fat a$$ Bobby always 2+ runs late in his bull pen moves. If he would have pitch hit for schafer he would have done a double switch forcing him to make a pitching change to start the 6th. Its funny how BC always makes himself look bad for never making the strategic moves that are anyway shape or form unconventional.
Mike Hancho
May 25th, 2009
6:16 pm
Bobby lost them another one…thanks big guy!
MP31
May 25th, 2009
6:16 pm
do you think the offense has another rally in them??? I dont think so
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Even with all this crap so far today, the Braves have to find a way to win one of these games “only” being down 5-2.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Okay, geez damn, how long is it going to last,how much more time do these two WORTHLESS LAZY_ARSED SOB”s need before they are no longer tarnishing a Braves Uniform??????
That damn Schafer,and The worthles no good piece of dog feces Francan’t!!!! these two can’t get out of their own way, and with the bases loaded BOOBY should have his ass fired on the spot for letting that little turd hit!!!!
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
“Javy got knocked around by the worst offense in baseball. Just not his day today.”
Yeah, but he should have only given up 3 runs today. Inexcusable F’ing brainless managing on Bobby’s part to leave him in after the leadoff guy reached. It was painfully obvious that he just didn’t have it at that point. After the leadoff guy, we had a lefty hitter at the plate, and a lefty up in the pen. That was the time to make the move.
But if not then, the move should have been made after the next hit… or the one after that.
I’m not calling BC an idiot, because I don’t think he is, but his decision making today WAS idiotic. What the F’ing name of all that is holy was he thinking leaving Vazquez in that long??
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Norton up, 1 out.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Unknown, If the AWFense had not come out flat today and spotted Jazy 2 runs early…
We’d be leading right now… Javy was nasty early on…It just seems like he gets unraveled from the pressure of having no run support….
nolie
May 25th, 2009
6:17 pm
Good throw, great slide. I thought Mac came out a little too far to get it. Might have been better off directly in front of plate (DOB)
not the first time, he has a bad habit of doing that.he won’t stay home. the ball is coming faster that you can catch it and move you body the rest of the way. He is not a very good fundamental receiver…but I’ll let him stay on the team….maybe as Ross’s backup and a PHer?
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
Bobby Cox has never been the problem.
everyone
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
Ron in SC:
Where the hell you been all year? You must be as blind as Cox!
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
This is starting to look just like 2007. The Braves split a 4 game series in SF before going to AZ to lose 2 outta 3. That was pretty much when that season ended. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself. I really don’t want to pay money to see the Braves get their butts kicked by AZ again.
BlahBlah
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
Frenchy could be nice traid bait to package with Schafer, both are doing horrible, but Schafer has room to improve; hasnt played above AA. Frenchy, however, has played 3 big league seasons and has just gotten worse. Trade him for someone who can actually play, please.
John
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
DOB – do you have any sense from the brass that they’ve considered sending Schafer down? Aside from the immediate problem that he’s basically a black hole in the lineup at this point, I’d think that being marched out there every day to get destroyed by major league pitching would erode anyone’s confidence, no matter how confident or talented said person may be.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
Slow Norton
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
6:18 pm
what are talking about Rob from SC?
frenchy has to protect his money maker. i mean, what would happen if jeff was called back by sports illustrated with a cover spot entitled “The Bum”?
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
Damn Norton, get that piano off your back.
MP31
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
man this sucks.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
Now those two can’t hit kids are rubbing off on Norton!!!
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
Speaking of slow…….there’s Norton.
keylargo
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
I dont care who we get, but Francour has to go. He’s a walking stinkbomb on the diamond. braveshater
Your absolutely right Bravos229-Mcann blew the last inning, lets hope he can make up for it. braveshater
Mcann is pretty good at hitting, but his defense sucks! braveshater
This guy sucks. He’s a disgrace to the number 7. braveshater
I dont care who we get, but Francour has to go. He’s a walking stinkbomb on the diamond. braveshater
Braveshater – I think Soul Train is on channel 5 now, Why don’t you watch it and quit putting yourself through this torture.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
MP31
Does The AWFense have it in Them
No as a matter of fact Hell No…
This has to be the Slowest team I’ve seen years, No F that That I’ve seen in my life
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
abwright: Whatever happened to diving catches in the outfield?
That went out the door when Andruw left. You can’t ask these wussies to lay out for a ball. They might get hurt.
Heath (Cleveland)
May 25th, 2009
6:19 pm
I am so surprised that norton did not get a hit…
Uno-Ocho
May 25th, 2009
6:20 pm
Need KJ to stay hot
MP31
May 25th, 2009
6:20 pm
we need base runners. then for mccann to get a huge hit. but im only hoping that will happen
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:20 pm
Javy’s day ended when he tried to get the out at second on a sac bunt in the 5th. He should have thrown to 1st. You can’t blame Bobby for Javy’s ill-advised throw.
Uno-Ocho
May 25th, 2009
6:20 pm
WOW – That was a foot outside
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
That was ball 4!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
What the heck is this ump looking at today!?!
Rodney Derrick
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
Three good outings in a row by Bennett. What did our pitching coach do to fix him?
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
DOB…alot of good questions out there still unanswered. What do you even do during the games man? Pick up the slack here dude.
Greg Norton
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
I’m out. Again. I love my job, I love my job, I love my job, I love my job. And Bobby loves me:)
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
If Greg Norton is a specialist, he’s the worst one i’ve ever seen.
Uno-Ocho
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
Is Jerry Mills on the Giants’ payroll?
2 non-calls on batter interference against the Giants….Now he has an Eric Gregg sized strike zone.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
Man! Is It Me or has anyone Noticed The drop off in Enthusiasm From Joe and Boog as Compared to last yesterday…?
Cheese-Whiz…The Braves Played with their emotion as much as they did mine
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
Waaaaaaah, waaaaaaah, waaaaaaah.
It’s all the ump’s fault.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:21 pm
Umpires need to be fined and held accountable for missing blatantly obvious calls.
Bill N.
May 25th, 2009
6:22 pm
Cox leaving ‘em in too long again. Ball four called a strike.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:22 pm
Well, I’ll concede this loss, barring a miracle comeback. Maybe playing two good pitchers will get them to play better.
ZC Rider
May 25th, 2009
6:22 pm
I understand that Schafer can’t be sent down, but how about a day off? Are AT&T and Chase just too big for an inexperienced Center Fielder?
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:22 pm
Wow, we really do have some pretty slow guys on this team.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
The Braves are like the Hawks these days, they get no RESPECT.
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
what really sucks is that timmey will be on the mound for the giants tomorrow. but we have hit team’s aces well, or at least good enough to win, this year. (santana, halladay etc.)
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
Dang…hard enough to score with the offense the way it is. Don’t need the dang ump calling strikes that are a foot outside.
Milton Bradley
May 25th, 2009
6:23 pm
Mark Bradley?
Name’s Milton
McFann Ô
May 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
MFin04 What the heck is this ump looking at today!?!
I’ve been wondering that…pretty much through this whole game.
How do you not call interference on Uribe for hopping in front of McCann? I’ll give Molina the benefit of the doubt on his (very hard…but I’m gonna do it) and say he fell…but Uribe hopped…he so hopped…
And that first play at the plate? He was out…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:24 pm
Seriously Javy made a bad throw but other players are suppose to tell him what base to throw to, if they said 1st then it is his fault if they said throw it to 2nd…then.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:25 pm
The Grand Slam boy is in.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:25 pm
Blaming the umpires is loser talk.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:25 pm
The Braves have played well lately, hopefully today is just a blip.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
bravesphanatic004
Your 6:23pm post is my point.
They seem to play good enough against the teams better pitchers.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
WOW
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
Cruz will look nice between Chipper and Mac. Betcha that’s who’ll we’ll end up with. Morton/Frenchy/Locke or Hernandez sounds more than fair to me.
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
DOB looks like this guy was right huh.
its over guys. braves are dead. have no fire in them. offense cant come from behind. — MP31 at 5:40 pm
ATL 2 SF 5 at 6:26PM
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
McFann,
McCann very easily could have decided to “trip” over Uribe on that play. He didn’t do it. You can’t rely on the ump to give you an interference call. You have to make him give it to you.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
Dammit, Buddy Carlyle is in = FATALITY! for all the old school Mortal Kombat fans out there!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:26 pm
I do think this could be just a blip. A bit of lag from the flight at night and playing a day game.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
Nothing good usually comes out of throwing to second to get the force out. More things can go wrong then right.
Can this team please score 4 runs?!?
Jerry
May 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
havn’t we won 12 of 17
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
who’ll we’ll…i’m not that dumb, believe me.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
That looked like a candidate for the LOL Frenchy files.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:27 pm
Chop Chop
In all fairness they can only be blamed on 1 run. The second interference call that wasn’t made, lead to a run. Other than that nothing can be blamed on them.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:28 pm
Well i guess ol Frenchfry really is the golden boy, hell that damn punk can’t even lay out on a catchable foul!!! PUNK earn your damn paycheck wothless PUNK
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:28 pm
With the game out of reach, BC puts in Buddy.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:28 pm
Chop Chop
I agree though you have to make contact for it to be called defiant interference…step into him.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
6:28 pm
havn’t we won 12 of 17
Nah, we suck, man. Don’t mean squat. Can’t be jubroni teams. Awful. Fail.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:29 pm
If you want to play the blame game….I do believe this game can be blamed on the offense only scoring 2 runs so far.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
6:29 pm
In the words of the Zen Perfect Master: “Patience.”
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
6:29 pm
Vazquez had a bad outing but everyone is due one everyone now and then. Schafer is out there because this is San Francisco and there is no defensive replacement for him. His struggles wouldn’t seem as bad if we had a better offense but we don’t. Not having two of your best hitters hurt so it was nice to get that sweep against the Blue Jays but I knew it would be hard to keep it up without those two guys. Tough assignment tomorrow with Lincecum. Hopefully we can get something off of him.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:29 pm
I hate to blame a loss (if this does in fact become a loss) on the umpire.
After the first interference non-call, which led to a run, B. Mac had some words for the home plate umpire. Perhaps that interference could have been missed, but the second one was so blatant that it wasn’t funny.
Now, we have a close call at the plate (which doesn’t get called…ultimately leads to two runs). Then, a ball 4 to KJ which ultimately leads to an out.
On occasion a bad call affects a game (non-call at third to Beltran). But, over 162, those rarely affect a campaign. This home plate ump, however, seems to be going out of his way to make his point to the Braves (don’t question my calls).
I suspect that BMac is wisely “shutting up” so that, hopefully, this does not carry over into the rest of the series.
Bill N.
May 25th, 2009
6:29 pm
Tomorrow: Medlan vs. Lincecum.
Fun.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
Joebrave
I would not have laid out on that, but it was catchable. Now the hit that scored a run was catchable too….dive b**** dive. lol
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
Yep….Braves have won 12 of 17 and also scored 4 runs or more in 12 of 17. They’re 11-1 when doing so and 1-4 when they score less than 4 with the lone win Friday against Halladay.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
I reeally don’t think Gorkys (?) could be as bad as Jordan and if Francoeur – well —- Just shoot him
Seems to be pretty clear ha cannot develop under Pendleton and cannot control his urges.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
That Fcking!!! Winn, He has killed us over his career!!!!
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
How is Buddy still on the team?
Jay212033
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
Boy most of you guys are really bipolar! First Javy is awesome, the best thing since sliced bread and now he’s garbage! Then we can’t score any runs our AWfense is the worst in then we start scoring and we all of a sudden have some of the most clutch hitters in the game! STOP WHINNING!!!
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
Now that little SOB Schitfer brains is out of position!!! Geez this outfield is PATHETIC…
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:30 pm
Game’s over. Let’s get ready for the reigning Cy Young award winner tomorrow.
DirtyDawg
May 25th, 2009
6:31 pm
Well I’m waiting for somebody besides DOB to point out that our all-star catcher was at fault for both of those plays at home. The announcers were begging us to vote for Brian for the ASG. Well I refuse to vote for a catcher that refuses to make even the slightest effort to block the plate. Shoot, he wouldn’t really have had to block it, even if he’d just get his damn leg across the line it would have made the difference. Maybe the ump missed the first call, but if Brian had been in better position there wouldn’t have been any doubt about the tag. Sure he may get run over and he may get hurt and we could lose a key bat, but that’s the reason you get a tough guy as a catcher and Brian’s not tough.
Even earlier in the game Brian should have been calling for Vazquez to make the throw to first on that bunt – the replay didn’t show McCann saying anything and the announcers didn’t either. And while I’m at it, they make a big deal about his blocking a ball in the left-hand batters box – hell, he was already out there calling for the breaking pitch in the dirt, he didn’t even have to move to his right. I guess you might say that I’m not a big fan of McCann’s defensive abilities. Give him another position to play cause he’s going to be a liability behind the plate and we need his bat.
Uno-Ocho
May 25th, 2009
6:31 pm
Hey Chop Chop or should I say “Chump Chump”? Cram it up your cram hole!!
Its okay to criticize players on this blog but when an umpire blows at least 3 obvious calls no one can bring it up?!?!?
I think you’re the baby.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:31 pm
DOB, is Bobby going with the rookie, Medlan tomorrow against Lincecum?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:32 pm
Jake W.
Still doesn’t explain why Frenchy is out there. If a teams going to have a CF hitting around and below .250 you can’t have that same type of hitter in RF, with let’s be honest sub-par defense. If you can’t dive or jump against the wall to catch a ball in the big leagues that’s just sad.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:32 pm
Look folks it aint the Ups fault it’s BOOBy Kooks dang fault for not pinch hitting for Schitfer brains with the bags full!!!!
McFann Ô
May 25th, 2009
6:33 pm
abwright–
I’m with you…that second one was as blatant as a Francoeur strikeout.
That ump must be holding his own over something…
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:33 pm
At least we won’t have Meals behind the plate the rest of the series.
Tommy D
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
Does he need glasses to catch?
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
how bout we trade frenchy or shafer to sportsouth for brian (gained a few pounds) jordan!!!
Jerry
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
I believe we are about to hit our stride like the old days. we’ve won 12 of 17 and honestly have 3 spots in the line up that are killing us. we get them hitting even a little and it’s on.
Bill N.
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
Seriously, how much more of Francoeur must Wren and Cox put us all through? Pull the f-ing plus on this failed experiment already!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
Has Medlen figured out how to throw a strike since last game? Bases loaded hitting the pitcher comes to mind? Hope the kid figured that crap out, we are going to need him to come up BIG tomorrow.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:34 pm
Uno-Ocho,
Best laugh I’ve had all day. Thanks.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:35 pm
I just want to SLAP the Hell out of Bobby Cox!!!
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:35 pm
David Price is making his first start of the season.
He put runners on 2nd & 3rd in the 1st with no out, then struck out the next 3 batters. 0-0, 2nd inning in Cleveland.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:35 pm
WHy do you walk a player to get to one whose 3-3 today?
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
A useless piece of trivia…Buddy Carlyle made his Braves debut in San Francisco and struck out Barry Bonds on three pitches.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Game is over
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Joebrave…….slap bobby in his mouf?
abwright
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Oh…how times have changed.
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Look at Buddy!
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Nice going Buddy and Bobby.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Wow, you just felt like it was a matter of time with Buddy pitching.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
AW Godammit that fkng Carlyle
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Buddy has become a home-run provider of frightening magnitude.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Like I said, with the game out of reach, Bobby puts in Buddy who gives up a homer per inning.
Bill N.
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
BOOT BENNETT
CAN CARLYLE
FIRE FRANCOEUR
SACK SCHAFER
carl
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
It certainly didn’t help Vazquez to have no run support until after he gave up some runs; seriously, that has to affect a pitchers demeanor to think that you have to be perfect since your team rarely scores…
Send Shafer down, please….and diory hasn’t gotten off to a good start…man, what is up with our minor league prospects?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Get Bennett Out NOW!!!! WTF is It With this Guy?
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:36 pm
Buddy’s getting better…..only 3 run HR this time!
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
Damn ump gave up a tater. Damn him.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
In case you need to know, “The Land of the Lost” marathon is still on Sci-Fi.
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
Pure Genius from the HOFer. Let’s walk Lewis to get to the guy who’s 3-3 today. Brilliant!!!
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
That ball wasn’t hit all that hard… didn’t make the bay.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
R U Fcking Serious….!!!!
This Is Embarassing!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
It’ll take a big miracle, which isn’t likely.
Here’s to tomorrow
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
Game Over. Braves have to do something with this Middle Relief group. They all put games out of reach more often than not.
Buddy, Bennett, Jo-Jo, all just not working for this team.
Luke
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
Buddy Carlyle would be a great batting practice pitcher for my little league team, any one have his number???
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:37 pm
Javy is not garbage – and we are not biploar, just fickled!…… lol Javy ran out of steam. You could see it in the last inning, but Bobby send him back our at 90+ piptches. So who is to blame, Javy? I don’t think so.
Necromancer
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
Wow…The Bobby loves Buddy tandem strikes again…
DirtyDawg
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
So much for the ’surging Braves’…get some more damn ballplayers or be out of the race by July.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
But Buddy is doing great –choke choke choke – not to be considered bipolar
carl
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
ok, have carlyle finish up this game and realease him too
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
His 1st Homerun of the season. Figures, this team is terrible. When are the Royals coming to town.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
8 runs against the puss-y @ss Giants.
Pay-per-view
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
Would anyone pay $1.99 to see a Francoeur-vs.-Carlyle match-up?
Unstoppable force, immovable object, etc., etc.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
YAY! 3 Outs! Go Get Em!
Don Sutton Says
May 25th, 2009
6:38 pm
I commented earlier that the Braves should be taking notes ’cause the Giants 1st baseman has ALL his hits today on breaking balls. So what does he hit out on Buddy? Breaking ball!!
Who is calling those pitches???
Tomas
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
Time to release the good for nothing Carlyle. Please.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
Chop Chop
The umps only technially gave up 1 run, does that matter now NO. And it didn’t matter when the game was 4-2. Bobby’s the one who walked Lewis with 2 outs to get to a player who was 3-3 before that homer. That’s stupid.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
I wanna thank you guys for hiking Ishi’s BA about a dozen points or so today. He kinda needed that. But this game has been too easy to even get excited about. Sweep coming up, I can smell it. At the very least 2 out of 3 ! Toast on the coast y’alls.
Rodney Derrick
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
Buddy is not fooling anyone this year. Seems like he is giving up lots of home runs that put games out of reach.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
Don Sutton Says
Did Don really say that? lol
a643dp
May 25th, 2009
6:39 pm
Worst offense in baseball just scored 8 runs on us that is no good.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Bennett Buddy and Bobby have to go. Bennett and Buddy are worse pitchers than Boyer. I miss Blaine. He was better than this garbage. Bobby needs to be held responsible for all of this.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Sorry for my ignorance – but what did i miss? why can’t Shafer be sent down? Serious Q.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Jordan needs to bat 9th….at least they can benefit from his speed more with the leadoff hitter up as opposed to the pitcher….the few times he gets on base, that is.
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Meaningful piece of trivia:
Buddy has a 9.33 era this season.
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Maybe Mac should enter the HR derby and take Buddy with him? About the only real useful thing BC could do for the Braves…
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Dammit how bout a FIRE BOBBY DUMBASS COX movement here!!! Hey Old Fatass don’t use that piece of CRap again!!! do the words DFA mean anything to you? you bullheaded SOB???
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
MFIN is Right
Our Middle Relief Is GARBAGE!!!
Moylan is still recovering from injury and The rest of them, you insert the reasons as to why they suck…
BT
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
Looks like Buddy will be flying to ATL tomorrow.
Is it too late for Frenchy to take the Clemson scholarship offer?
We have no one to play CF which is a GM problem. Taking strike out hat tricks cannot be doing anything positive for the kid’s head.
SHOULDA GOT DUNN
May 25th, 2009
6:40 pm
I hate francouer
I hate shafer
I hate buddy carlyle
bobby has to go, these fucers have to go now
we have great pitching and no offense
chipper quit being a little biotch and suck it up and play
you too esco
go get holliday/adrian gonz/n.johnson/derosa/uggla — get one of some of them so we can get to the freaking playoffs!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
I think there’s a good chance to win at least one out of the next two. Two if they play as good as they have been playing against the best pitchers on opposing teams.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
MFin04
Boyer was not better. Buddy and Bennett get knocked around but they haven’t walked as many as Boyer would have.
So when does Buddy go back to Triple A?
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
doesn’t take long for bobby to show why he has soooo many detractors…his moves are easy to 2nd guess…what a dingus!!! walking a lefty to get to another lefty who’s 3 for 3…that’s the kind of genius maneuvering that got us 1 for 5 in WS and 1 for 14 in Division titles
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
I’d rather play with 22 players than keep Failcouer, Buddy, and Queefer on the team after today.
Random
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
Capt Caveman (5:09 pm): “Thanks for that,
BTW, what do you think about that theory?”
Psycholgically, I agree with you — being in first does give a psychological lift, especially if you know (or think) that that’s where you belong.
And not only can chasing sometimes be a grind (especially if you never catch up week after week), being chased is an adrenaline booster. (I still remember my first arcade Pacman game.)
Now how much that psychological edge may translate into actual wins or performance is debatable (eg, by Eric from MO), but better to have an edge than not, imo.
(And on the other hand, not making such a move when your rivals are struggling — failing to take advantage of their misfortunes — can be an even bigger psychological drag. Even in a single game — eg, “Braves fail to take advantage of two Mets errors, and the inning ends with no runs and three Braves left on base” — been there, done that.)
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
Walking a guy to pitch to the guy who has done the most damage was not smart.
Necromancer
May 25th, 2009
6:41 pm
Oh, don’t worry. Bobby will keep trotting Buddy out there; along with Jo Jo and whoever they have who sucks severely.
Buddy= Big Tub of Goo
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:42 pm
Not getting happy about this, but at least Diaz hits.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:42 pm
Coach. My toe hurts. Im gonna be out two weeks.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:42 pm
Louisville brave
2nd guess? don’t know if your being serious or sarcastic but I said before he hit the homer why did Bobby walk Lewis to get to him.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:42 pm
Buddy is clearly struggling right now, but the sad thing is Bobby will probably go to him tomorrow with the game on the line; and he’ll probably give up another homerun. Bobby epitomizes the phrase, “loyal to a fault.”
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:43 pm
here comes the comeback!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:43 pm
Can someone tell me why David Ortiz is struggling so badly this year?
KC
May 25th, 2009
6:43 pm
What about Willie Tavares? That would solve the CF and the leadoff problem. I wonder if we’d have anything that would interest Cinci.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:43 pm
Necromancer
To tell you the honest truth, and I kinda hate myself for it. I was kinda glad Jojo got hurt. Ooops did I just say that?
Necromancer
May 25th, 2009
6:43 pm
But JoeBrave
Cox is a HOF manager…
I was being sarcastic, of course…
5 Year Old Boy
May 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
could i take buddy carwhile deep too?
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
STOP! We just swept one of the best teams in the AL! Losing one game doesn’t mean the season is over! Get a grip, people!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
What Really P’s Me off is that this team played contender baseball for the last 3 games prior to this one…Then they come out here letting their guard down against another Jubroni team of the league and they get Bytch Slapped!!!
It really gets me on Fire when they play with my emotions like this…
AAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
MFin04
Because Buddy isn’t in the AL?
*zing*
SOS
May 25th, 2009
6:44 pm
Frenchy would get a HR against the POS Carlyle. Of course so would my dead grandmother. Time for Frenchy and COX to do.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
Frenchy….DP or K??????
Necromancer
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
MFin04
Big Papi has been consulting with Terry Pendleton. Didn’t you know?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
Now This Team Is Starting to Hit WTF!!!!!
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
Mets have the Nats and Phillies have the Marlins so we could easily be 4.5 after this series against the pathetic Giants.
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
abwright: So, he USED to be able to pitch in tight situations?? Seems I vaguely remember……
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
DOB — In the blog someone said we cannot send Shafer down to AAA…..Why? the psychological effect? What he’s doing cannot be helping him develop a good attitude.
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
Thoughts on Chipper,
He needs to practice running the bases. I’ve never seen a player get hurt so damn much stepping on the bag, whether it’s his hammy, quad, or toe. Learn how to hit the bag right old man.
2nd, I’ve played soccer for 3 months with an infected big toe, and this man is sitting out because he can’t field a baseball? Pathetic.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
No one and I MEAN NO ONE HATES JEFf MR SUCKS FRANCANT more than I do!!!!!
Trade this $hithead to Japan!!!
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:45 pm
1 for 14. Wow that has a unique ring to it.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
Times like this call for levity and perspective. Thus:
The Big Lebowski: Are you employed, sir?
The Dude: Employed?
The Big Lebowski: You don’t go out looking for a job dressed like that? On a weekday?
The Dude: Is this a… what day is this?
The Big Lebowski: Well, I do work sir, so if you don’t mind…
The Dude: I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
Braves Paisan
When a team can;t beat the best but loses to the worst there is SOMETHING wrong.
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
bravos2249
I talked about Frenchy in an earlier post and just didn’t see the need to keep harping on his struggles. For the life of me I can’t figure out why he has so quickly reverted back to his old ways. Bases loaded nobody out and his approach at the plate is horrible. I won’t compare him to Chipper because Chipper has been in the league much longer, but when you look at Casey’s and Mac’s at bats and they’ve been in the game just as long as him you wonder why he hasn’t made the necessary adjustments to get better at this level. A lot of people blame TP but I just refuse to beleive he says go up there and hack away at anything that looks like it might be a strike. He doesn’t have smart at bats at this point in his career. It’s frustrating.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
Braves Paisan
I meant can…sorry lol
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
The kid McCann can just rake, but here comes Francoeur, so this scoring opportunity will probably end up as double play or strikeout.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
6:46 pm
So Buddy is no longer a major league pitcher right? right?
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
Buddy has lost everything decent he had last year? Like we were all talking about yesterday, this game is about momentum and that bases loaded no out situation where we get 2 runs instantly put the Giants back in control. Chipper might just need to suck it up tomorrow night and play. Lincecum vs. Medlen doesn’t look pretty.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
Braves Paisan…
Most Bloggers complaints on here stem from the fact that they play like a playoff team for 3 games and then play like a(n) AAA soon as they think lesser teams are gonna lay down to them…
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
What made Andruw Jones at 19 yrs old more ready for the big league club than Jason Heyward? In ‘96 we had a better OF than we do now.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
bravos2249 – (I hate Boyer) but He didn’t give up any grandslams, or let every single inherited runner he has had on score. Buddy and Bennett need to be sent on their way. Bring other guys in. They can’t be any worse than these two jokers. And Bobby is old and senile, he really needs to be let go.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
Joebrave
I bet we could’ve got KK for Jeff…darn
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:47 pm
Fausto Carmona can be a Brave.
He just walked 4 straight batters to lead off the 2nd inning in CLE, struck out a batter, then served up a 2-run single. Tampa still batting.
JJ
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Better trivia: Buddy is sporting a .363 BAA after this fine affair.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Whew, I felt that breeze from here.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
FRENCHIE COME ON!!!!! Do Something!!!!
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Frenchy took a pitch!….and it was a ball!
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
DOB–
The Braves seem a step slow today. Any chance that the day game after a long flight cross country would be contributing to that? How much does that kind of scheduling (dumb scheduling in my opinion) affect a team for a game?
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Necromancer did you mean Hall of Fools???
That’s about the only dam hall BOOBY is gonna roaming!!!
Don Sutton Says
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
bravos2249
Don didn’t say “who is calling these pitches!” He DID comment on Ishi getting all his hits today on the breaking ball. Don took note of it and said they should try something else to get him out.
Next AB? Breaking ball from Buddy. BOOOOM!!! I’m the one who was wondering aloud who the heck was calling the pitches?
When a guy is wearing you out on a pitch, do you NOT take notes and try something different? Is that not how most MLB teams operate? It’s something Don noted BEFORE that last AB.
Vince McMahon
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
I need an arena to showcase my wrestlers tonight. Dang nuggets lied to me about the availablity of the Pepsi center. Maybe i could use the hole in Jordan Schafers swing???? That could seat about 21,000 fans(Ks) dont you think.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Is any of this sarcasm working? I’m trying hard to offset that blog title, but it ain’t working so far. and Unknown, I liked Ymir the Frost GIANT as a name, but I think DOB’s reverse mojo is just too much to overcome no matter how hard I try. Oh well, tomorrow is another game. Gotta go.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Oh god the Worthless one!!!!
hubris
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
no outs, 1st and 2nd, francoeur up to bat.. .what will happen?
a) strikeout
b) strikeout
c) strikeout
d) strikeout
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
That’s It Send Frenchie’s A..s Down To AAA NOW!!!
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
Release him now!!!!!
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
6:48 pm
LOL, strikeout.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
Good knowin you Frenchy
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
Your sure are quiet DOB. Where is the optimism? Wow. A hanging breaking ball right over the middle, and this clown Whiffs. Frank Wren must be waiting for his value to hit rock bottom.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
Bravos2249: it could be jet lag. Hell, look at what is did to DOB’s prose, LOL !
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
MFin04
I know…I really don’t like Bennett and Buddy is getting there. But when Boyer was on the team they were better than him. But both need to go. If Boyer got the axe then how can both if not at least one be kicked to the curb.
concerned braves fan
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
Should have kept Boyer let him work it out. Buddy is a AAAA starter-long relief guy. He has no business pitching in the role he’s been given. Braves need two things to contend: 1) get runners in and 2)improve the pen. Those are the weaknesses this season. The occassional bad start sure, but if you can’t get men in then you’ll never make the playoffs.
btw…Adam Dunn is currently playing above hi norm. He would not be a big improvement over Frenchie with men on base. There’s power, and then there’ clutch. Braves don’t have enough of either, including Chipper.
5 Year Old Boy
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
could i get jeff frankcoor out two?
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
Seriously, what MLB player has slowere hands than Jeff Francoeur? Guy misses more 89 mph fastballs than anyone I can remember.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:49 pm
This Game Is For The Birds!
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
Ugly game today, but I wasn’t expecting the Braves to win every one the rest of the season. Hopefully after a good night sleep tonight and a night game tomorrow, they can get back to playing like they have been of late.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
Since this is clearly the worst team in baseball history, I propose we drop everyone except McCann and Jurrjens (let’s face it, if Wren had faith in Lowe it’s bound to backfire eventually) and bring up the Gwinnett team. It would be a huge improvement after only winning only 3 of the past 4 games (including this one).
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
Yup Mr I can’t hit a damn thing wouldn’t you know it!!!! Cmon Wren How much more????
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
varoadrunner,
Your 6:40, Schafer certainly could be sent down, but there aren’t exactly a lot of options at this point to play CF. For that matter, RF or LF either. Frustrating ain’t it.
SOS
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
Cox sux Francouer sux Carlyle sux Bennett sux Pendleton sux. Is that enough people right now?
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
6:50 pm
I farted in frenchys general direction….big mistake the wind off his swing blew my fart back in my face
The Truth
May 25th, 2009
6:51 pm
Even if you have to sell low, get rid of the kid. He is terrible.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:51 pm
Schafer….K or K?
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:51 pm
Kotchman isn’t exactly killing the ball for this team. This lineup has soo many holes with soo little power it’s depressing.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
Braves Paisan
Well Chipper or not…Yunel or not if you want fresh players Ross can fill in. I mean when was the last day Mac didn’t play. I know everyone would have been b***, but how many no calls, blocks, or tags would a fresh Ross have made over a tired looking Mac.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
Diory the Explora up for the third out.
SHOULDA GOT DUNN
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
DOB take your stupid movie quotes and shove em up your worthless piehole.. how about answer some of the questions people are asking you on the blog or is that too much work for you? oh mighty one answer the questions, shut your smartass mouth. thank you.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
Over/under for Schafer Ks tomorrow vs Lincecum: 3
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
BoutTHATmouf, good one! Funny as FU**!
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
6:52 pm
bravos2249
my bad…you called it…i wasn’t following the blog at the time…but definitely questioning the move as it was happening…like i usually do with bobby’s oft-doofus moves
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
thanks tater – was just wondering if I missed something. Altho, Gorkys might be better than shafer – but who knows – just a frustrating game.
Jerry
May 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
Braves Paisan . There’s no reasoning with this crowd. The only thing worse than jeffs play the last 2 seasons is the majority of post on this blog.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:53 pm
Joe and Boog…sorry but if Chipper and Yunel play it doesn’t take Jeff and Schafer out of the lineup…soooo.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
Louisville brave
lol no problem…I had to ask obviously cause it’s hard to tell through a computer.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
As one of my favorite shows would say….
This Battle Is Over! (Iron Chef ~_~ )
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
Good grief, what a difference a day makes here on the ol’ blog.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
How does this team not at least get one run there!?!
boutTHATmouf
May 25th, 2009
6:54 pm
this is giving me a sour taste in my mouf
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:55 pm
Is it safe to say Frenchy should’ve been a pitcher.
Mitchell
May 25th, 2009
6:55 pm
This is a sweep all the way. but then, there I go underestimating KK after his electrifying performance on Friday.
But Medlen? Why? Are we trying to lose? What about Morton? Somebody get that boy a plane ticket.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
6:55 pm
Too bad ownership can invest hundreds of millions in satellite radio but not give enough funds to fix this team.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
6:55 pm
Bravos, in retrospect, giving Ross the start may well have been the smart move. But look at that line-up WITHOUT McCann in it — to call it “Punch and Judy” might be an insult to the latter, lol!
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from AT&T clubhouse hot tub
May 25th, 2009
6:56 pm
wut up wit all da hostility? I’m chillin, you should to….
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:56 pm
And Kotchman sucks! There I said it. I’m sick of people defending him. He isn’t a a major league caliber first baseman. We need power and RBIs from our first baseman and he just isn’t cutting it. He has one good stretch, but now he is sucking again! If we are going to keep running a weak powerless outfield out there, we at least need a power hitting first baseman.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:56 pm
Yunel Will Be put on the D.L. If he doesn’t start on Thursday, “Bank On It!”
Maybe this game was a blip…But seriously we need to start playing the jubroni teams like we play the phillies if we are gonna have any shot at this thing….
B-Macc has gone 3-3 and yet we have scored 2 Fcking Runs!, Only the Braves
The Dude
May 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
Jordan Schafer treats baseballs like under paid union workers.
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
varoadrunner: Seems to be pretty clear ha cannot develop under Pendleton and cannot control his urges
Can anyone develop under Pendleton? He’s part of the reason why we have no hitters. The 3 best hitters we have are Chipper, Escobar, and McCann. Chipper’s dad helps him through his slumps. McCann’s dad is the same way. Escobar has a attitude problem and doesn’t listen, but in the case of Pendleton how can we blame him. For Christ’s sake, Andruw had to get on track with the Texas hitting coach. Pendleton screwed him up so freakin bad that it carried through his last year here and then worse in LA. Pendleton is sucks so bad. And hell, lets not forget that piece of dirt pitching coach McDowell. What a maroon!
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
I bet we could trade Jeff to Texas, they have a hitting coach. Maybe we could pay all of Jeff’s salary and get a minor leaguer in return
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
So Francoeur has left seven on base today and struck out with bases loaded and with two runners on — both times with none out
Dora
May 25th, 2009
6:57 pm
Diory the Explora up for the third out.
Francoeur no strikeouts.
Francoeur no strikeouts.
Francoeur no strikeouts.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
6:58 pm
Man, this is just a hateful display of baseball!!! These Braves decided to Ruin the Memorial Day experience in S.F. , what lousy guests, and who is the cross-eyed snot jerk calling Balls and Strikes??
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
6:58 pm
I vote that we NEVER wear those red hats again!
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
6:58 pm
Oh … Logan …
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
6:58 pm
Gawd K-Fer Sucks On Defense!
SOS
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
MF in 04. You’re right. Let’s also add Schafer, King of the Strikeout. Oh and nice botched Willie Mays catch Schafer. Willie Mays you aint.
whut da hail
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
By placing professional baseball, has Francoeur lost his NCAA eligibility (to play football)? I think not but it may become a relevant question.
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
San Diego is about to win their 10th straight
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
How long will the effects of the injury last?
A simple toe sprain can be treated with rest, ice, elevation, and anti-inflammatory drugs. Pain and swelling can disappear and full range of motion return within 24 to 48 hours.
More serious toe sprains or a toe fracture may last 7 to 10 days. An acute form of toe sprain – turf toe – is accompanied by pain, swelling, and loss of range of motion that can last weeks or even months.
It’s been 4 days…that’s got to be more than just a sprain…or Chipper is really old.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
KUDOS Jerald
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
McFann: Oh no, not toe troubles for BMac now too! Oh, the humanity!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
6:59 pm
Schafer needs to realize his isn’t Willy Mayes Hayes. Catch the ball like a normal human being
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
7:00 pm
now schafer cant even catch a ball. worthless.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:00 pm
Pathetic!!! Absolutely Pathetic, Considering how they played the last 3 games of the homestand
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
7:01 pm
Buddy didnt give up a homer that inning!?!?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:01 pm
Braves Paisan
Got to say I didn’t expect McCann to play, and just cause Chipper and Yunel can’t play doesn’t mean McCann doesn’t need a day off. And regardless Mac has 3 hits…and no rbi. Either way the lineup is punchless.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
7:01 pm
I don’t think Texas is in the market for an outfielder.
SOS
May 25th, 2009
7:01 pm
How about Francouer for a bag of balls. Naw, no one would do that. How about an old mop.
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Gorkys Hernandez is hitting .331 with 9 SB as AA Miss. And he is said to be as good a CF’er as there is in the minors. Time to call him up.
“But he may not be ready”.
I agree… he might not be. But after 2 months, we KNOW Schafer isn’t ready to hit big league pitching. Time to send Schafer to Gwinnett and see what Hernandez can do while Wren works the phone for two outfielders.
18 Wheels of Love , you’re right. Andruw was called up during his 3rd pro season, at age 19. Heyward is in his 3rd pro season right now at age 20. And most Braves scouts compare Heyward’s offensive talents to that of a young AJ. The similarities are many. I think there’s an good chance he’ll be a September call-up this year… and I’m certain we’ll see him next September at the very latest.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Braves Paisan
got ahead of myself, tried to backspace but already hit submit….Mac does have an rbi, but it doesn’t make any difference now.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
SOS, Yeah, I’m Getting Tired Of that “Willie Mays Hayes” Shyt K-Fer is doing out there, he needs to play deeper, because he has no where near the range of A. Jones at his age…
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
7:02 pm
Guys, Frenchy isn’t gonna be traded. Nobody wants him. He will or should be released.
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
I thought sending Francoeur to AA was the right move, however, they wussed out and brought him back up after 3 games. In retrospect, he probably should still be there. I suspect much of his woes are betwixt his ears.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
Should have played Ross ~_~
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
Looking at the box score, our current lineup has only 2 players hitting over .260. None are over .300.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
Shoulda Got Dunn – wow, why exactly are you not the general manager of a Major League team, or at least a beat writer who does not have to pay attention to a game, just has to answer questions from the incredibly intelligent masses who populate the blog? Since this game is the end of the world for all Braves’ fans, DOB clearly has a major attitude problem.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
MFin04(negativity), people are defending Kotchman because he isn’t the problem with the offense.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:03 pm
LOL wiki @ 6:36 and pay-per-view @ 6:38.
Eh I don’t think much about this one. They’re tired…and the lineup. Yeah. The real Braves will hopefully show up tomorrow night. Looking forward to seeing how the kid comes back out. Hopefully at least Yunel will be back and maybe Chipper’s toe will be back to normal by…the next homestand?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:04 pm
KC
Gorkys may not be ready but Frenchy doesn’t look ready either.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
7:04 pm
And Kotchman sucks! There I said it. — MFin04
You say that like you’re the first (or 21st) to say it here. Whether we agree or not, you’re hardly the first (or 21st) to say it.
There, I said it.
Unknown
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
This kid is bad on epic levels.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
Shafer’s new strategy – just don’t swing
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
Choppinmama–
Yeah…hope Bobby took him out “just ’cause”, ya know…hope the foul off the foot had nothing to do with it.
wiki
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
golden sombrero!
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
PLease for the love of oll that is Holy please get this kid out of here!!!!
Louisville brave
May 25th, 2009
7:05 pm
El Golden Sombrero
SOS
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
Way to go K-Fer. Not swinging at the pitch will not get you on you worthless POS.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
Brian Wilson…looks like he’s on HGH…Man He’s Huge
Hit a Meaningless Homer Chipper
18 Wheels of Love
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
Hope Chipper doesn’t take one off the toe here.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
Unknown, yes he will. Texas would be insane not to take a Frenchy,Morton,Hernandex tyoe deal for Cruz, I hope. Maybe I’m hoping too much, but man he’s got that power that’s lacking so bad right now.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
hope chipper doesn’t reinjure the toe
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
That’s right boog, if French Fry gets 4 years to figure it out then surely Schafer can have his rookie season? I mean…we’re 2 months in. Leave him alone people.
Golden Sombrero for Jordan as I type that. lol
If Larry hits it here I want it to go out, lord knows we don’t need him to further injure his toe.
SF Tatoo Artist
May 25th, 2009
7:06 pm
I got free tickets from some guy named frenchy late last night. He came in with some guy named chafer. They got a tattoo that said “THE 0-3 CLUB”. chafer got another one that said “Mario Mendoza” He said that was his favorite player.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
Or a walk would be okay too. Hell even a strikeout, it’s not like they’re going to score 7 runs with 2 outs.
CB
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
Will all the eight year olds please go to bed? Well that should take care of most of you.
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
Now on a more subtle note, what the Braves have in CF is clearly an overrated prospect that is not now nor never will be ready to face ML pitching.. This Punk is clearly not ready!!!!
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
I really think today’s performance has sealed the deal on Francoeur. Not that he’ll be gone tomorrow… but I would guess that the front office is every bit as convinced as the fans are that a change has to be made in right field.
It’s weird because he looked really good in the spring and through April. And after a 2-3 week slump, his swing looked really good again for about 5 games heading into Sunday’s game. But yesterday, he came up with runners in scoring position and no one out, swung at the first pitch, and tried to pull an outside breaking ball for a weak out. And today, he’s looked like a right-handed version of Jordan Schafer at the plate.
We’ve GOT to replace both Francoeur AND Schafer ASAP.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
LOL DOB, I’ve definitely been the first and 21st to say it on here. And I get a lot of crap for it usually, but Kotchman just isn’t hacking it. Yeh Schafer and Frenchy are sucking, but so is Casey. He has been put in the position to hit behind Chipper and McCann and drive in runs and he isn’t doing it.
And if the Braves aren’t going to change things with Schafer and Frenchy and Kotchman…what is to keep a team from walking the bases loaded to get to Frenchy and Schafer and Kotchman in a critical situation?
mr desperation
May 25th, 2009
7:07 pm
How about Dave Roberts for CF? Talk him out of retirement? He’s not even 37 yet…..hit .260 with 31 SBs in ‘07.
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
MFin04, Can someone tell me why David Ortiz is struggling so badly this year?
He probably asked Pendleton to help improve his swing.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
Braves2249, you wrote yourself from the definition you found: “More serious toe sprains or a toe fracture may last 7 to 10 days.”
Then you follow that by drawing this conclusion: “It’s been 4 days…that’s got to be more than just a sprain…or Chipper is really old.”
What part of “more serious toe sprains or a toe fracture may last 7 to 10 days” did you not understand? Or did you just dismiss the “more serious toe sprains” part of it?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
2 Golden Sombreros in 1 year….gotta be a record.
braveshater
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
If he can’t play then why in the hell is he hitting. Bobby Cox just baffles me more and more with every strike. This organization is going down the tube. There is absolutely no fucin way Jordan Schaffer is a Major League Baseball player. Freakin unbelievable.
mr baseball
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
Once again, we get a good look at why the Braves are extremely unlikely to contend for the playoffs with a suspect roster and an overmatched decision maker in the dugout.
Did anyone else (other than Chance the Manager) think there was even the remotest possibility that Schafer was going to get a hit with the bases loaded and 2 outs. Chipper should have been at the plate, not in the on deck circle.
If he gets a hit, the Braves are tied/ahead and Anderson hits for Vazquez, who was about at the end of his rope. Chipper doesn’t get a hit, Anderson goes into the game as the 9 hitter to lead off the next inning, getting Vazquez out of the game after he struggled in the fifth.
After Schafer predictably makes the 3rd out, Cox again leaves his starter in too long, then has to get Bennett out after hitter to pinch hit for him, resulting in another Carlyle catastrophe.
Exactly how long is Chance the Manager going to leave Schafer in the lineup day after day with no replacement/backup on the roster? And it’s getting to the point that the same can be said about Francouer, who is only awful about 9 out of 10 at bats, compared to Schafer’s 10 of 10.
Just because the Braves swept an overrated Blue Jays team that played WAY over its head the first six weeks of the season, some folks (including the person who conducts this blog) thought this team was on the way up and about to challenge for the division lead.
The only way this team gets close to contending is if the division goes the way it did the year the Mets went something like 82-79 and finished first because no one else was over .500. The lack of offense and shaky middle relief is going to keep this team from getting over .500, and the Phillies and Mets will figure some way to get to 85-88 wins at least despite their respective flaws.
The Braves missed a chance when they went 3-3 at home against the lowly B’backs & Rockies. They’ll be lucky to get back from the West Coast without being back around .500 again.
As for the CF position, this team has no good option. Blanco is assuredly not the answer, and the person who could have filled in is now playing regularly in Detroit.
Wren needs to find someone who can play the position on a stop-gap basis and if Norton has to be sacrificed to make room, it needs to be done. It’s not like he’s done such a great job this season.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
Man This Was a Complete 180 compared to the last three games, Its back to reality…In Realizing How Bad this AWFense Blows!!!
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:08 pm
DOB
I meant it’s more than just an avg. toe sprain….so it must be serious.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
DOB -
Is your hotel in the union square area? If you think I’m jealous of you right now, you’d be thinking right.
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
“Good grief, what a difference a day makes here on the ol’ blog.”
Well that’s what you get here. Most of the time no persepctive at all, just gut reaction. Gotta thank god sometimes that these people are not GM’s, coaches, managers, or anything of importance. If they think we suck now, I would hate to see what we would like after some of the suggestions I hear on here.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
If Chipper is hurt why is he even pinch hitting in a game that is 8-2?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
DOB
and it does say fracture….that’s not good if Chipper has that.
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
bravos2249, I agree. Francoeur is an enigma. Braves have got to replace both Frenchy and Schafer.
varoadrunner
May 25th, 2009
7:09 pm
The pain is over
mr desperation
May 25th, 2009
7:10 pm
Luis Gonzalez in RF & Dave Roberts in CF! Yeah!
AHugeBravesFan
May 25th, 2009
7:10 pm
You might as well but an x next to the Dodgers name (x-Dodgers) in the newspapers. No one in that division is going to beat them. 15-6 Dodgers at Colorado. They’re about to win their 21st game in 29 in divisional games.
The unbalanced schedule sucks. Is anyone else tired of seeing the same damn teams play each other 20 times a year?
BT
May 25th, 2009
7:10 pm
The comparison of Andruw Jones being ready at 19 and Heyward is a little misleading. Many in baseball question the veracity of Andruw’s stated age.
It is sad to see what they are doing to the kid’s psyche. He obviously needs some time in Gwinnett. Mickey Mantle got sent down his first year and it didn’t seem to hurt his career.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
7:10 pm
Golden Sombrero for Schafer.
TBF(n)K as Billy
May 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
I think as always most on this blog appear too young and immature for me to follow it reguarly anymore….
While I dont get upset like many here do when the Braves have one 3/4 games I do see the need for another bat its a huge weakness. The bullpen is fine.
There I said it.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
It’s just plain stupid to keep running Chipper out there to reinjure his toe. Put a boot on it and let it heal. He shouldn’t be running against Toronto or pinch hitting today if it is still hurting. No reason for him to risk hurting it more.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
Oh hell I thought the “the braves are who we thought the were….” crowd wouldn’t come out for a few more hours. Looks like mr baseball has been writing that since the 7th inning.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
KC
a team can get by with one Frenchy but not 2….I mean Blanco was hitting like this last year and everyone hated him…and Schafer chases the ball to the wall like he did too. I’m not campaigning for Blanco, but Schafer hasn’t separated himself from Blanco’s abilities.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
7:11 pm
Jeff Francoeur did not struggle when he made his major league debut. As crappy as his OBP has been the last few years, he wasn’t an awful baseball player until 2008. Schafer has struggled since the first series of the season. He hasn’t made any mark as a major leaguer. He certainly shouldn’t have the leash that Francoeur had last season.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:12 pm
KC
Francoeur Will Be there in the Same Slot Tomorrow
If The management didn’t do anything last year, why do you think they will do anything before August this year…?
But I agree He needs to go…I tried to hang with him, but Him and K-Fer are Killing us…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:12 pm
MFin04
Yes, because the solution for a hurt toe is to stay off it.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
7:13 pm
In the words of US Grant, after the first day of Shiloh was a major Union setback, and WT Sherman commented that they had just gotten the holy tar beat out of them: “Yeah. Lick ‘em tomorrow, though.”
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
7:13 pm
mr.baseball, thanks for the pep talk. MAN, we needed that. Funny, where you been the last few days when the Braves were winning?
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:13 pm
The bullpen is not fine. The long/middle relief isn’t good at all and Gonzo has been very shaky in 1-run save situations (50% is not a good ratio). Soriano has been good/great and Moylan is obviously still recovering.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
Man That was painful, I’d Rather get our A..ses handed to us by the Philles or Mets rather than to watch that…
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
This Schafer deal is hard to watch. It’s pretty sad watching the guy hacking at air all the time. You gotta feel for the kid.
StingerSplash
May 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
Methinks Mr. Carlyle is not long for a major league paycheck.
Seriously, how long can the Braves keep trotting out the gas can?
Also, another very poor day for the apparently overmatched (at the plate) young Mr. Schafer. He’s racking up strikeouts faster than Nolan Ryan — except Ryan was a pitcher.
And another bad day at the office for Frenchy, with 7 LOB. Maybe reading Bradley’s column got to him today.
Can’t beat anybody going 1-for-9 with RISP. Yuck.
Wow!
May 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
I really wanted to make a few comments about the struggles of Shafer and Frenchy, but there’s more crucifying on the blog today than the Roman’s performed! lol
Anything I have to say about Shafer and Frenchy would pale by comparison!
CB
May 25th, 2009
7:14 pm
Yeah your on that list too Joebrave.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
7:15 pm
Lets Take Bets That Bobby Cox Will Run the Same Fcking Lineup out there 2morrow…?
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:15 pm
Chop Chop
I agree, but Frenchy should have had the leash he had last year either…going down to the minors for 3 days? please.
I’d rather see Schafer struggled and then finally figure it out than a player who had immediate satisfaction and keeps getting worse. Frenchy’s not worse than last year, but he’s close.
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
7:15 pm
McFann: I hope so too. Balancing on that toe he pounded can’t feel too great. I’m leaving the ‘ol blog right about now ’cause it’s gonna get really tough and negatory as the evening goes on. Hope you have something better to do with your evening too. Maybe some good leftovers to chow on, or some company to visit with before they go home for the day. Will you stay with school year ’round, or do you take the summer off?
Good luck with the evening FANatics, DOB.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
7:16 pm
Despite the loss, I’m having a nice day
My bro can grill a mean steak
So delicious!
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:17 pm
Seriously MFin? I mean…do you know who, of the regular starters, has the 4th highest BA on the team behind Mac, Chipper and Yunel? That would be Kotchman. Seen anyone better with the glove on this team? …. I haven’t, but I’ll pause here for your answer.
The Needle
May 25th, 2009
7:17 pm
Jeff, come back I miss you so much….we were so good together.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:18 pm
Well wanna watch real baseball Angels @ WHite Sox tonight on MLB Network
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:19 pm
Kotchman isn’t what we need at first. Didn’t say anything about his glove, it’s terrific. He isn’t driving in runs like we need him to and he is absolutely no threat for a homer.
StingerSplash
May 25th, 2009
7:21 pm
Buddy has become a home-run provider of frightening magnitude.
Yeah, what’s her name from Angel Beach High in “Porky’s” didn’t give up four bases like he does.
(Hey, look, it’s bad enough I just dropped a Porky’s reference, OK? I don’t want to further diminish the level of conversation by showing that I actually know the character’s name.)
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
I’ve heard several bloggers talk about Chipper’s toe injury like they are unsure as to just what is wrong with him. The night that he reinjured it, I heard that he has bunion problems and that when he crossed the first base bag, he busted it and it bled out and subsequently turned black and blue. Take it for what it’s worth. But the way I see it, play or don’t play, but pinch hitting isn’t helping the problem. That in itself should tell you guys what a truly sh!tty team this is. I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times, this team is no better than a 3rd or 4th place team.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
MFin04
I’d take Kotchman over Francoeur any day, anytime. Frenchy is the problem not Kotchman. At least Schafer is a rookie and not hitting, but Jeff is proving last year wasn’t a fluke, his first 3 seasons were.
One of your worst hitters should not lead the team in ab’s.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
Choppinmama–
Yeah…don’t think squatting would have felt to great…plus some of the folks on here prob’ly would have just yelled at McCann because he wasn’t sitting in the right spot or something…
Yeah, it’ll prob’ly bad on here. Don’t really have any big plans for the evening, but I might pull up the Gameday for some team that I hate and see what they’re up to.
We don’t completely take the Summer off. We take some time off in the Fall, and make up for it in the Summer–gettin’ close to being done with some of our stuff though. (Like Chemistry…boy, that’s gonna be a glorious day!)
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
AHugeBravesFan – I’m with you! I HATE the unbalanced schedule. Not only is watching my team play the same teams over and over boring… But I live in AZ and can only see the Braves here once a year.
I’m sure Selig thinks it’s good for baseball and fueling rivalries, but it leaves fans complacent. If you live in LA, why bother seeing the Padres when you know they’ll be back umpteen more times during the season.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
Rampant negativity bores me. I’m going to run off the homemade ice cream I ate today. Enjoy the rest of your holiday, Braves fans.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
7:22 pm
Hopefully, Mets & Phils lose, so we lose no ground ~_~
BT
May 25th, 2009
7:24 pm
I notice Gorky’s wasn’t in the lineup today for Mississippi. Could he be on the way to Frisco?
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 25th, 2009
7:26 pm
Just wanna put out there, that if any of you guys are Veterans….THANK YOU.
We all need to remember what today’s holiday is all about. The fallen Heroes that made the ultimate sacrifice so we can be free while we live in this great country that we were fortunate enough to be born in. Far too often we take those freedoms for granted.
God Bless America and Those Who Defend Her!!!!!!!!!!!
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:26 pm
Fooey…2-0 Fillies.
CB
May 25th, 2009
7:26 pm
Joebrave do you need to get your mother’s permission to leave the house?
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:27 pm
Macon Braves @ 7:26–
AMEN!! I echo every word.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
7:27 pm
bravos2249,
It was an idiotic decision to bring Frenchy back to the bigs after that short detour to Mississippi. He reacted like a petulant child and, lo and behold, he ended up back with the big club after three games with Rosin Bag Grenadier Wellman.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:27 pm
Kotchman 5 for 30 with 3 RBIs in his last 10 games.
Frenchy 8 for 20 with 1 RBI in his last 5 games.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
If Chipper is out tomorrow, I’d throw this out there…Prado/CK/KJ/Mac/GA/Diaz(RF)/Hernandez/Schafer. No sense on batting maybe your hottest hitter right now at leadoff. I don’t get that at all.
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
MFin04
I’ll take Kotchman over LaRoche and Scott Thorman any day.People tend to forget about Thorman and rightfully so. He’s the reason we had to make the deal for Tex.
The idea that your 1st baseman has to be a big power guy is false.
That was the last time when people were demanding a “big bat”. Well the Braves went out and got that big bat folks and the price was not cheap.
All those thinking that acquiring another “big bat” is going to cost Francoeur and a couple of guys the blog doesn’t like are kidding themselves. You want another big bat, it’ll take something close to what we gave up for Tex.
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
KC,
I like your reasoning regarding Gorkys. Might as well try him. However, he’s not currently on the 40-man. Who would you drop? You can release Buddy, but that leaves a bullpen spot open. Until Campillo is ready, you really can’t call up Gorkys and send Schafer down.
Regardless, a few more guys are going to get released or traded this year. Hanson’s contract still hasn’t been purchased from AAA, so that leaves room for yet another player to be released.
A trade is gonna have to be made in order to try other options. One of Blanco, Diaz, Brandon Jones, Francouer will have to be traded to open up an outfield spot for Gorkys. Campillo, Bennett, Carlyle, Parr etc… will have to be traded/dropped for Hanson, unless Glavine retires.
Just saying, it’s early in the season for trades to happen, but I see why the Braves have been looking so early & why DOB thinks the Braves will deal way before the deadline this year. There’s simply no room to add players unless you simply drop players, and I don’t think the Braves want to do that….
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
Macon Braves (RIP) – Nice post. I’ll just say ditto.
Jerald Holcombe
May 25th, 2009
7:28 pm
Oh, forgot another one of Bobby’s gems during the pre-game show today. He said the bullpen is pitching really great. I swear that sumbitch is senile.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:30 pm
Dangit…they’re bringing back the tooth ad…
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:30 pm
Tomahawkin, last year, Frenchy was coming off a season in which he hit .293 with 19 HR’s, 104 RBI, and 40 doubes, along with being one of the best clutch hitters in the league. Not to mention a gold glove award.
There have been MANY high quality big league players that have had season-long slumps… lousy seasons, in their prime years, for no apparent reason. Mike Schmidt and Mark McGwire are a couple that come to mind immediately. And in most instances, when that happens to a quality player, he bounces back the following year.
We have one recent instance of that right here with Tim Hudson. He had an ERA of close to 5.00 a few years ago, but snapped back to ace form the very next year.
Given what Francoeur had given them the year before, they weren’t about to sell the guy for a song. They wanted to see if he could get back to form in ‘09. And for a while, it looked like he would. His swing looked great all spring and all April. As of May 1, he was hitting .287 with a great average with RISP, and was on pace for 21 homers, 104 RBI.
But then came the slump, which it looked like he had snapped out of about a week ago. But yesterday and today, he once again looked like the ‘08 version of Frenchy. Hard to figure what’s happened with him.
The Braves weren’t ready to give up on him last year, nor should they have been. But THIS year, he is not coming off of a .293, 21, 104 season, gold glove season. He’s coming off of a pisspoor season in every respect, and the fact that he hasn’t convincingly turned it around 2 months into the new season IS most certainly cause to look for other RF options.
Mark Bowman has said it recently, and I agree… I think the Braves are at the point of looking for the right opportunity to cut ties with Francoeur and find a viable bat for right field.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:31 pm
I agree Kotchman isn’t “THE” problem. But there LOTS of problems. Middle Relief, the entire outfield, and now apparently the left side of the infield. Soriano is good, McCann is great and KJ is hot. Everything else technically is a problem right now.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
7:31 pm
Happy Memorial Day to all the vets out there. I did a little stint in the Army myself. I’m not a rah-rah patriotic guy who believes in glorifying the profession of soldiering, but anybody who is willing to serve and die for his countrymen is worthy of the term “soldier.”
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:31 pm
Bobby’s Cox, better to have one less reliever than an automatic out day in and day out.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
7:32 pm
Vazquez regretted trying to get the runner at second instead of first on the bunt, said that changed whole game because they would’ve only gotten one run instead of three that inning.
McCann blamed himself for not blocking ball earlier in the inning.
Schafer told me he’s not worried, that he’s felt better lately, that it comes little by little, but that he fouled off a good pitch or two today, got close on a couple, etc. Gist was, he said he knew it didn’t look good, 0-for-4 with 4 Ks, but he wasn’t worried.
By the way, he was dressing to go back and work in the batting cage when done.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:32 pm
BT
Don’t get your hopes up.
kirkinga
Frenchy won’t get us a good bat but package him in with some others and I bet we’d get a serviceable bat.
chrisw148
May 25th, 2009
7:33 pm
WHY THEY DONT BRING UP GORKY AND TRY HIM OUT FOR A WHILE SCHAFER LOOKS COMPLETELY OVERMATCHED AND WE NEED TO MAKE A DEAL SOON THIS OFFENSE STINKS, YOU SEE NOW WHY VAZQUEZ HAS BEEN WITH SO MANY TEAMS NO CONSISTENCY, LASTLY DOB WHY DID THE BRAVES NOT SIGN BOBBY ABREU AT 5 MILLION FOR ONE YEAR RATHER THEN A PLAYER THAT CANNOT PLAY EVERYDAY
TommyP
May 25th, 2009
7:33 pm
And now we resume the Jordan Schafer debate we last discussed before today’s game.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:33 pm
DOB
How much work is too much work for Jordan.
abwright
May 25th, 2009
7:34 pm
Well, that was an ugly loss. Akin to the 12-0 loss to ARI and the 9-0 loss to COL.
It would be nice if someone were on the plane from Gwinnett to take Carlyle’s roster spot. He just hasn’t had it this year and doesn’t look like he’s going to get it.
Chipper and Yunel not being on the DL is really hurting. If you had someone who could play defense in CF or RF, you could actually pinch hit for Francœur or Schafer in a key situation. With two roster spots tied up with “day-to-day” trippers you just have to run the line up out there and hope for the best. This is the worst case scenario with Infante’s broken hand…Yunel and Chipper both being out for an extended period.
<sarcasm on> I hope that Bobby goes with the OF of Anderson (LF), Diaz (CF), Norton (RF) tomorrow, since that’s what the Braves have if F & S sit. I cannot imagine, after today, anyone actually demanding to insert F & S.<sarcasm off>
Braves were out of sync today. Go get ‘em tomorrow.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
7:34 pm
DOB McCann blamed himself for not blocking ball earlier in the inning.
Of course…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:34 pm
KC
And there was no telling how long Huddy’s elbow could have been a problem. Cause in years prior he would be wild sometimes and then pitch a shut out the next game.
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:35 pm
Bobby’s Cox, you mentioned Blanco… he’s the obvious roster solution. The guy has been hitting below the Mendoza line at AAA. I’m shocked he’s still on the roster. Drop him off the 40-man roster and add Gorkys. Send Schafer to AAA and Call Gorkys up.
Again, we don’t know if he’s ready, but he might be… and we KNOW Schafer isn’t cutting it.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:35 pm
Does Schafer swing and miss in the batting cages on the high inside fastball?
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
7:36 pm
“DOB” – Glad to see that Schafer is working to get better instead of sulking. I’ll take care of the sulking along with some adult beverages.
CB
May 25th, 2009
7:36 pm
Chop Chop agree with you about Frenchy, when they sent him down he should have stayed until he got his head together. The Braves,imo, looked bad when he came back acting like a jerk.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
7:36 pm
Mutts losing 1-0
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
7:37 pm
.Soriano is good, McCann is great and KJ is hot. Everything else technically is a problem right now. — MFin04
So the starting pitching is a problem, huh? Or does starting pitching not count in your view?
JeanE
May 25th, 2009
7:38 pm
Why oh why is Jordan Shaefer still here and not at Gwinnett??? He struck out 4 times, yes, that’s 4 times in this game!! Gregor Blanco has got to be an improvement over this, I know he is! It was a big mistake not to start the kid in AAA, now it’s time to correct that mistake before it’s too late! Diaz can play center in a pinch and start Anderson in LF. At least they hit! And the Franceour days should be so over over over, it is just so sad. He looks so awkward, uncomfortalbe & miserable. If he’s going to have any kind of career, it won’t & shouldn’t be here. Too much water under the bridge, even at his young age. Trade him while we might be able to get something for him!
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:39 pm
bravos2249, according to Hudson, he was perfectly healthy in 2006, despite the performance. Glad they kept him.
But Francoeur really does have to go, unless they want to just send him down to Gwinnett for a while. But given that he’s making 4 mill or so, and cried like a girl last year when they sent him down… they’ll probably need to just see what they can get from KC, TX, or whoever.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:39 pm
LOL, DOB that’s so obvious there is no reason to mention it. Starting pitching has been phenomenal. Hope Medlen can throw strikes again tomorrow.
Polterbubba
May 25th, 2009
7:40 pm
Hope Wren doesn’t talk trade with the Rangers. Be nice to still have a ballpark to play in next year…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
7:40 pm
Frenchy and Schafer
0-8 6 K’s 10 LOB…Braves as a team only K’d 10 times..none from Vazquez
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:41 pm
The Braves have to make some moves and win some games with their bats. They can’t continue with this up and down crap against horrible teams.
What are the Braves doing to address their needs?
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
7:42 pm
HEY DOB
Any thought on what I was talking about earlier about the Braves moving into first place now, even if it is just temporary, to help add a little more fire to the team.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
7:42 pm
MFIN….your posts are well thought out. I enjoy seeing your vast insights on a daily basis!
chrisw148
May 25th, 2009
7:44 pm
DOB The pitching is ok but because of the lack of offense they have pressure on them every inning
DHD
May 25th, 2009
7:45 pm
Nice Memorial Day story except Memorial Day is the day we remember those who have died while serving this country. It was once Decoration Day in which we decorated their graves. Veterans Day is for honoring those who have served us. They are 2 different holidays. Of course, I always thank our military when I see them. that is ALWAYS in order.
The boys on radio today mentioned a Berkman to ATL rumor. What’s up with that?
Dooley
May 25th, 2009
7:45 pm
Hope the backstop in that batting cage is ready for a pounding.
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:45 pm
There are some people here who have suggested that Francoeur doesn’t have any trade value at all right now, or might even be released. I think that’s ridiculous. He doesn’t have a lot of trade value now, certainly. But it was just ‘07 that he hit .293, 19 HR, 104 RBI, 40 2B, with a gold glove. There are going to be a lot of non-competing teams out there (and maybe even 1 or 2 that are in the hunt for something) that would like to see if they can turn him around.
I wonder if Francoeur, JoJo, and a couple mid-level prospects would be enough to get Holliday here for a few months.
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
7:45 pm
Dazed and Confused. London 1969
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12wRBAhcTY&feature=related
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
7:46 pm
Rotoworld had some interesting takes today:
“Buddy Carlyle gave up three runs in two innings of relief Monday against the Giants.
This makes five straight appearances in which he’s allowed a run, and he’s now given up 21 runs — 19 earned — in 19 1/3 innings for the season. The Braves need to move on.”
“Jordan Schafer fanned all four times up Monday in the loss to the Giants.
Schafer is second in the NL with 55 strikeouts, and unlike the other four players in the top five (Mark Reynolds, Ryan Howard, Adam Dunn and Prince Fielder), he’s not making up for it with a double-figure home run total. Still, Schafer is starting every single day and it doesn’t look like the Braves have much interest in making a chance. Considering that he is playing quality defense and drawing walks at a nice clip, he may actually be less of a liability than the team’s other two starting outfielders.”
Turkeylegs
May 25th, 2009
7:46 pm
Schafer needs to be sent down to the minors.
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
7:47 pm
KC,
I don’t think the Braves would just drop Blanco. They’d at least trade him for another minor leaguer. But that’s my point, there’s got to be a trade first. Whether it’s a simple minor leaguer for a minor leaguer, the Braves might want to do just that to free up a spot on the 40-man.
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
7:47 pm
Or trade him for cash or balls….
BravesFan4Life
May 25th, 2009
7:48 pm
I really like Francouer as a person, but he and the Braves need to go their separate ways. He is better off with a different team at this point in time. After his poor season last year, his trip back to the minors, and his struggles this year, its clear that we need to upgrade our OF and trade Francouer if we can.
I still like the possibility of a Ryan Ludwick, but the Braves should have went after Adam Dunn instead of Garrett Anderson. If Schafer continues to struggle like he is, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to bring up Barton, or Gorkys Hernandez to man CF.. The Braves need to do something because if they get more consistent, there is a good chance that they can take the NL East this year. The other teams aren’t exactly lighting it up.
KC
May 25th, 2009
7:52 pm
“Soriano is good, McCann is great and KJ is hot. Everything else technically is a problem right now. — MFin04″
DOB already mentioned starting pitching. What about a gold-glove first-baseman who is hitting for a good average, only 16 strikeouts this year, plenty of RBI’s, and is leading the league in doubles?
What about Escobar, who is hitting .293, has been among the league leaders in hitting with RISP this year, and is on pace for 15 HR’s, 75 RBI, and 35 doubles?
What about the best bench in the league? Eric O’Flaherty? Chipper is a problem?
And if Mike Gonzalez can’t close it out consistently, Sorniano will take on that role, and Gonzo will be a hell of a late inning lefty to call on. He’s not a problem… he’s an asset.
Shamus Thacker
May 25th, 2009
7:54 pm
I wanted the Braves to keep Schafer on the ML club after ST.
It was too early for him. WAY too early by all indication.
That’s why I’m not a ML GM. Why is Wren one?
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
7:56 pm
Cruz will look nice between Chipper and Mac. Betcha that’s who’ll we’ll end up with. Morton/Frenchy/Locke or Hernandez sounds more than fair to me. TnBrian
Yes he will. Been saying it since November. However, we’ll have to give up more than that. I’m not sure Texas needs anything right now. They could use more pitching, but they’ve gotten pretty decent pitching this year already. Their starters have pitched more innings that anyone in the AL this season and their era is more than a whole point lower than last year. Harrision is doing ok. Millwood is an All-star, Feldman has been doing good. But they still have Feliz in AAA, top-prospect Derek Holland in their bullpen, and they’ve been in contact with Ben Sheets who met with their pitching coach last week as well as Dr. Andrews to begin a throwing program.
That team looks solid, and I’m sure they’re more than happy with their OF depth since Hamilton’s been struck with minor injuries all year.
The time to make the trade was in the offseason. Not now or they will rape us like they did for Texeira, though I would love to see Nelson in RF batting 4th.
CB
May 25th, 2009
7:56 pm
If the Braves make a trade it will probably be somebody that is not on the radar, somebody like a Lance Berkman who would really help this weak offense. He could be used in the outfield and be the cleanup man they need.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:57 pm
KC – Escobar is hurt, Kotchman isn’t that good and is in a horrible slump as of late, Chipper is hurt, EOF has been good/great, and the bench is not exactly stellar now that its top member is hurt, the pinch hitting specialist sucks right now, and our most versatile player is now a starter because Chipper’s so called “minor” injury is causing him to miss 4 straight games.
And Gonzo isn’t consistently closing out games, he is 50% in 1-run save situations (8 of his last 16). Perfect in two-run or more saves, give me a break, not that clutch.
Turkeylegs
May 25th, 2009
7:58 pm
The Braves aren’t far off, but the OF is horrendous. Anderson and Diaz or alright for LF for the short-term, but Frenchy and Schafer need to go. I can’t stomach it any longer. I’m torn b/w making a trade this year or just calling some players up and giving it a go for the rest of the season. I really don’t want to give up the future. We have Gorkys and Freddie Freeman waiting in the wings for the OF, and we may be able to pick up a big bat in free agency next year. Our pitching staff looks money if Hudson stays next year. Schafer is a HUGE disappointment.
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
7:59 pm
Lance Berkman? Hmm that’d be a nice addition.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
8:03 pm
MFIN…You’re an idiot.
John
May 25th, 2009
8:04 pm
One thing that upsets me with Braves management is the stock they put into veterans when looking for a replacement player. I think they’ve overlooked guys like Ben Zobrist, Cruz, Ludwick, etc…because of their “lack of experience”.
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
8:06 pm
Turkeylegs,
Freddie Freeman is a 1B, not an outifelder. Maybe you meant Heyward.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
8:06 pm
Wow, Shamus Thacker – I was just about to post about how no one had been in favor of Schafer getting the CF job over Anderson (since had they been they would have apologized for their indiscretion). I appreciate your honesty.
In answer to your question, in ST the CF job was advertised as being out there to be won, and only 37.5% of the posters to the blog thought Josh beat out Jordan, given that Jordan doubled Josh’s average. Frank Wren apparently saw what happened over the course of two months and made a decision. The “way too early” part is apparent in retrospect, but retrospection is not always obvious in advance.
FWIW, I (quietly) supported Anderson most of the spring (only on the theory that AAA seasoning could not hurt), but by the end of ST Schafer was looking too good to ignore.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:07 pm
Marlins just took the lead with a 3 Run Shot, by our old friend Wes Helms!
Pete
May 25th, 2009
8:08 pm
From DOB: “♣ A salute on Memorial Day……”
Yeah Dave thanks for that. Reminds me of sad story about 6 months ago when I landed in Atlanta on Delta. As we pull to gate, Captain comes on and asks us all to remain in our seats because “it is my and the rest of our crew’s highest honor and privilege to be transporting home a fallen soldier.” Went on to ask us to allow the soldier who was accompanying him to exit the plane first.
Needless to say there was not a sound or a dry eye as he walked down the aisle in his uniform. Something I will never forget, and it pretty much effectively ended my day right there.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
8:08 pm
But I’d venture to guess that’s not the first time someone on here has told you that.
Trey06
May 25th, 2009
8:08 pm
Wes Helms 3-run Shot.
FL 3 – PHI 2
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
8:09 pm
These red hats make it really hard to tell who is hitting when flipping back and forth between the Phillies, Met, Nationals, and Marlins. All wearing red hats, lol. Crazy!
MFin04
May 25th, 2009
8:10 pm
Helms got screwed out of an infield hit with runners on 1st and second an inning or two back. Glad to see him get some redemption.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
8:10 pm
David Price threw 100 pitches in 3 innings.
Clint
May 25th, 2009
8:11 pm
Has there been any talk of sending Schafer to the minors? I haven’t seen a player miss as many fastballs straight down the middle of the plate ever. He’s got like one million holes in his swing, and Terry can’t fix a bad swing let along Schafer’s god awful one.
Turkeylegs
May 25th, 2009
8:12 pm
Thanks, Bobby’s Cox… yeah, I meant Heyward.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
8:13 pm
And he can play 1B and the OF….but I think it’s only RF. But I’d trade Frenchy and 2 prospects or some relief pitchers for that. As long as we keep Hanson and Gorkys I’m down. I mean Bennett does have a sub 3 era….lol some teams would take that without looking up all the other stuff on him.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
8:16 pm
I like this team, it’s just that we only have three guys, from an offensive standpoint, that we can pretty much pencil in getting a hit or having a quality at bat (Chipper, Escobar and McCann) – “when the game is on the line”. And hey, that’s pretty solid, but when two thirds of your amazing trifecta are viewing the game from the bench the problem spots (e.g Francoeur and Schafer) in the line up get magnified and the pivotal moment in the game will ALWAYS find them. Schafer appears to be a solid prospect with a pretty good work ethic, he’ll get better. However, it appears to me that Francoeur has a bit of that “Jason Marquis” attitude in him (all the talent in the world, but can’t be told anything). He showed positive flashes at home against Toronto, but this game today was just terrible and telling; didn’t even touch the ball, kind of reminds me of another former Brave outfielder that currently patrols the grounds in Texas. So, in the end, maybe this is what Jeff is, a guy that will show flashes of greatness, coupled with extended periods of futilty. And because Jeff is a quote unquote superstar, I wouldn’t expect the Braves organization to cut bait with him; not while he’s still relatively cheap and STILL a fan favorite at Turner Field.
CB
May 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
bravos2249 Berkman can play any position in outfield although center would be tougher for him. I think if Braves tried to get him they would try to go after one of our starting pitchers to match salaries. I would love to have him.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
8:19 pm
McCann’s OBP is up to .417…second to Chipper.
Boo
May 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
The boys on radio today mentioned a Berkman to ATL rumor. What’s up with that?
Are you for real? Or lying? Or was it just a nothing like a “maybe he’d be available” comment?
Pete
May 25th, 2009
8:21 pm
Chop It Up All-star: “And because Jeff is a quote unquote superstar, I wouldn’t expect the Braves organization to cut bait with him; not while he’s still relatively cheap and STILL a fan favorite at Turner Field.”
Cheap because he thankfully got greedy and turned down 5/$25 mil or thereabouts a couple years ago. The fan favorite affection will fade and he will get more expensive every year, so Im guessing this is his last year in a Braves uniform.
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:22 pm
“So the starting pitching is a problem, huh?” DOB
According to Braveheart it is.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
8:24 pm
How much is Francoeur making this year? $3.9 million?
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
8:25 pm
Lance Berkman? Hmm that’d be a nice addition.
MFin04
I can tell you Lance Berkman isn’t going to be a Brave any time soon. Kotchman is also a better defensive 1st baseman than is Berkman.
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:26 pm
And with one Memorial Day outing, Vazquez has “pushed” Lowe back on top of the “who is the Braves 2nd best pitcher” leaderboard. That didn’t take long.
Anybody feel like arguing today? Just kidding. I have work to do. But, seriously. I’ll make time.
Pete
May 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
Boo: “Are you for real? Or lying? Or was it just a nothing like a “maybe he’d be available” comment?”
I heard it also and it was a general conversation about how certain teams that will be out of it will always have some players who can help other teams. Houston and Berkman were mentioned, and Joe said something like “boy it would be great to have Lance here” and that was it.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
8:27 pm
CB & MFin04
Yeah, Berkman would be a nice addition to the lineup but he’s LEFTHANDED.
Bobby's Cox
May 25th, 2009
8:29 pm
N8,
I was reading over the blog from the weekend. It seems like Braveheart thinks we need 1 more starter. I’m not so sure. We’ll have Hanson coming up soon, and while I think it’ll take him a month or so to adjust like it took him in AA, and AAA, we’ll still have Hudson later in the year. I also think Medlen will be a fine starter and that his 1st game was a fluke. If he needs an adjustment period, I think Medlen can learn in the bullpen like he did in AA. They’re both going to be fine starters.
Chop It Up All-star
May 25th, 2009
8:30 pm
@ Pete, I hope you’re right. I think both the Braves and Jeff could benefit from a fresh start…but I seriously doubt they will let him go.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
8:31 pm
I’ve been perusing newspapers and blogs to see which teams are clamoring to have Frenchy traded to them right now, and I am overwhelmed at the huge names that are out there if Wren would just pull the trigger.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:32 pm
Frank from KS
Actually Berkman is a switch hitter. Unless you meant the hand he throws the ball ~_~
Mike Hancho
May 25th, 2009
8:33 pm
They need to bring someone up for CF to put a little pressure on Schafer – just like in Spring Training. Maybe he needs to start looking over his shoulder before he starts getting it together…same could be said for Frenchy,
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:34 pm
“I can tell you Lance Berkman isn’t going to be a Brave any time soon. Kotchman is also a better defensive 1st baseman than is Berkman.” kirkinga
I agree with you on both fronts. However. Berkman has also started 447 games in LF, 265 games in RF and 135 games in CF. And he’s a switch hitter.
If there is a way to get Lance Berkman without giving up Heyward or Hanson. DO IT NOW!!!! While he has a pathetic .225 BA, he does have 9 HR, and 25 RBI with an OPS of .813. Not great. But better than what we’ve got in ALL THREE outfield positions. In his last 20 games, he’s hit .274 with 4 HR and 15 RBI, .866 OPS.
He’d be an upgrade no matter which OF he’d replace.
That all being said. I’m not buyin’ it for second.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
8:34 pm
Welcome back to the blog world N8.
What I’d like to know is….how in the world can a team only being down 3-2 in….what…the 6th and end up losing 8-2?
Unreal.
CB
May 25th, 2009
8:34 pm
Funny, Vinings Jim
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
8:35 pm
Vinings Jim-
You are on a roll with the sarcasm today
Best be careful, though, or someone might actually believe you and start asking our fearless leader about those big names!
BravesFan InRockies (ex-BFIR)
May 25th, 2009
8:36 pm
Mike Hancho (8:33),
Not a bad idea (potential competition in the OF). Don’t know how you do it with this roster unless you get rid of Norton or D. Hernandez or Diaz or GA. The team now has too many one-dimensional players. Unfortunately, power is not that dimension.
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:37 pm
Bobby’s Cox, totally agree with you. If Glavine or Hudson help in any way, I think Medlen ends up in the bullpen for this year. Along with Acosta, that should help rid us of the dead weight out there (Buddy, Bennett – who really hasn’t been that bad other than the freak game).
But somehow, some way, Hanson will be in this rotation before the season is over. It’s either going to come because of an injury or ineffectiveness of one starter. Or because we’re out of it by the deadline and we deal Vazquez or Hudson or somebody, thus opening up a spot for him to get his lumps in down the stretch of meaningless games in August and September.
But I would say the “odds” of him NOT pitching in Atlanta this year, are minimal.
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
8:37 pm
“And Gonzo isn’t consistently closing out games, he is 50% in 1-run save situations (8 of his last 16). Perfect in two-run or more saves, give me a break, not that clutch.”
I have to agree with KC. If we had no other option after Gonzo there would be a problem, but seeing as we do have other options he definately is not the problem. He’s blown three saves this year and you are right they were all one run games but he hasn’t blown up out there. I mean we have only lost one game he’s blown. Two of those blown saves could have been avoided( Matt Diaz’s ball lost in the lights and the missed call on the Beltran steal). Shoot even the last one where Soriano saved it was questionable with what many felt was a strikeout of Rolen are whoever it was. This team has some problems and he definately isn’t one right now. Worst case scenerio he doesn’t get it done then we have Soriano. No big deal.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
8:38 pm
N8-
I do like Berkman, but he hasn’t really been an outfielder in a few years…125 games total since 2005. If we are going to get an outfield bat, I would prefer it to be someone that plays only the outfield (or at least as his primary position) Berkman’s bat is good (although he’s off to a slow start thus season) but he is not the outfielder we want
CB
May 25th, 2009
8:38 pm
N8 I agree probably not going to happen, but I would love that bat, may cost too much. Hey we need some help.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
8:38 pm
BravesFanChris24
Oh that’s right……Berkman is a switch-hitter. I just keep seeing him in my mind as a lefthanded hitter.
My mistake.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
8:39 pm
The way McCann’s been hitting since he came off the DL makes me think of the ‘06 BMac…just needs a few more doubles.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
8:39 pm
Frank from KS-
the Braves & Jays were tied 2-2 in the 7th yesterday…
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:40 pm
No Prob Frank
braves70
May 25th, 2009
8:40 pm
I’m watching the Cubs right now and I swear it must be the Braves. The Cubs #3 hitter – Milton Bradley is hitting sub-.200. Reed Johnson is the cleanup man with 1 HR. Hey we offten have had a cleanup man with 0 HR. The Giants are last in runs scored. Is the offense everywhere terrible this year?
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:41 pm
For wrestling fans here ~_~
Tonight on RAW is going to be skit heavy on the Denver Nugget situation.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
8:44 pm
Hey I like Kotchman but I’d trade him for Berkman….Casey has a higher avg, but Berkman can hit them out and he can run.T
oh SNAP!
May 25th, 2009
8:45 pm
Frank from KS
Wow. Did you not know Berkman was a switch hitter. Dang and I thought I had problems.
CB
May 25th, 2009
8:45 pm
Kotchman is not the problem, Berkman would play the outfield.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
8:45 pm
cabravesfan
Yeah, but they won yesterday.
Lol.
But in all seriousness…..it’s like was mentioned before….it’s not that they lose…but HOW they lose that makes it damn frustrating.
Josh B
May 25th, 2009
8:47 pm
Schafer reminds me of myself when I am playing MLB 09 The Show with all of the strike outs. Something is needs to happen.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:47 pm
If it were to happen, both Kotchman & Berkman in the same lineup would be much better without Kotchman in it.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:48 pm
I meant to say that the lineup would be much better with both in the lineup than without Kotchman in it with him.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
8:49 pm
oh SNAP!
No, I had just forgotten that he was a switch hitter….which if the Braves had two switch hitters in the lineup (Chipper being the other one, of course when he’s playing)….might make it interesting against teams especially late in games…as it would relate to matchups, righty-lefty, etc.
CB
May 25th, 2009
8:51 pm
OK we are in agreement, FW make it happen!
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
8:51 pm
cabravesfan – I had a post ready to go that I erased because it was a bit too vitriolic (as it happened, it was ready to go just as the Giants got to 8 runs, so realized it would be Lost in the Flood (ooh, unintentional Springsteen reference)). I think I also posted something serious within the past hour (complimenting another poster on an admission of non-perfection), but the really good wine I’m having with my really good steak (which I savored for over an hour) has dimmed my memory of semi-unpleasantness. It is, however, a pleasure to communicate with you.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
8:51 pm
Frank from KS-
hey, at least they don’t make you sweat out the 9th inning
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
8:53 pm
That was so not a HR for Mets.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
8:54 pm
We don’t have the money to trade for Berkman. We just don’t.
Supes
May 25th, 2009
8:55 pm
A game like tonight…Jeff deserves to have last year’s nickname brought back…so How about that performance from FRANCINE? Great job…playing his way out of ATL with every at bat. When will this nightmare be over!
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
8:55 pm
N8
Um, no, you don’t want Berkman to play LF.
He is the face of the Astros, even more than Roy O. He’s about and about in the community, played locally at Rice. I’ve heard nothing on the talk shows or read anything in the paper about wanting to move him. This is pure fantasy someone made up and them someone heard that fantasy and repeated it, and so on.
I could believe Carlos Lee, but he’s no better than Diaz or Anderson in the field and his salary is big.The Astros want to unload Tejada, now that they will gladly do. Any deal with the Astros is going to have to include pitching because that is what they feel they need.
I think the Braves would be in a better position to make trades in the offseason than now. They’ll have Hudson back and they could trade either him or Vazquez and not have to give up Hanson.
The Braves can make a change sure, but to make an impact, a good one, a difference-making impact, they’re going to have to put together something close to what they gave up for Tex only this time they don’t have a surplus of prospects to give up.
Nor do they have the payroll which no one seems to mention much. Unless the attendance picks up, this payroll is more likely to go down than up. If that is the case, then cheap young players like the ones people want to get rid of still have some value to the Braves.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
8:55 pm
Vinings Jim-
I love the sacrastic posts…you and I think alike (you should worry about that!) I jumped on the alcohol a little late today (somehow, drinking at 1:00, even on a holiday, seemed a bit early) so I’m just getting started (reading some of these posts has pushed me over the edge
)…but it’s always a pleasure talking with you! Your reference to steak make me really wish I had saved my really good steak for tonight (last nights instead…and it was good!)
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:56 pm
cabravesfan, I realize he hasn’t. But he couldn’t really be any worse than Garret in the OF, could he?
But in the end, it’s all just aimless arguing. Little to zero chance he’s a Brave anytime soon.
mr baseball
May 25th, 2009
8:56 pm
As someone who has been a lonely defender of our once promising RF against the hordes of OBP/OPS obsessed statheads, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to continue supporting the no longer Golden Child.
Francouer looks lost at the plate and whatever power he once had has withered away. His swing has become a mechanical mess and he rarely makes solid contact any more, hitting a series of soft fly balls to right.
His first 2 1/2 seasons in the bigs, Francouer was among the very best players in the game in hitting w/RISP. There are a bunch of alleged baseball experts who will tell you that there’s no such thing as a clutch hitter, but Francouer was proof of their faulty logic. At least until last year.
Something has happened to him since the end of the ‘07 season. Maybe it was the added weight, maybe getting beaned, maybe falling into bad habits at the plate. Who knows.
Whatever the reason, he hasn’t been the same since the start of last season. I opined during the off-season that the offensive key for this team was going to be Francouer. If he reverted to pre-’08 form, the Braves would be OK offensively (if healthy). If not, this team was going to struggle to score runs with sub-standard MLB bats at 1B, LF & CF.
Whereever he bats in the lineup, it seems like he is always getting chances to produce key hits. His ability to come through in those instances was a key to what minimal success the team enjoyed his first 2 1/2 seasons, and his abject failure last year was a big part of the Braves’ dismal record.
Fortunately for him, the Braves really don’t have a viable option to replace him. Diaz is a decent platoon player, but that’s about it. Brandon Jones is nothing special. And with Schafer totally useless at the plate, Francouer isn’t even the main concern in the OF.
The Braves can’t afford to just give up on him, but it’s hard to see what they’re gaining by sending him out to RF every day and needing him to perform at the levels of 2005-07.
This team has a bunch of key personnel decisions to make in the immediate future if it’s going to have any chance to make a run at the playoffs this season. The back of the bullpen has to be addressed. Also the 5th starter (here’s a vote for Hanson over Glavine).
Most importantly, however, is RF & CF. Not sure how much Morton/Reyes/Medlen will bring in a deal, and no one is likely to swap the big bat the Braves really need for anything less than Hanson.
The Braves are going to have to win with what they’ve got here and in Gwinnett, which means guys like KJ, Kotchman & Francouer are going to have to step up, especially with Chipper’s always uncertain status.
Johnson will probably hold up his end. Kotchman will do just enough to stay in the lineup and be an occasional contributor. Francouer? I’m not so sure any more.
N8
May 25th, 2009
8:58 pm
“Um, no, you don’t want Berkman to play LF.” kirkinga
You’re right. I would much prefer him in RF.
Louis
May 25th, 2009
8:59 pm
I’m afraid our offense will not cut up when we match up soon against the Red Sox and Yankees.
N8
May 25th, 2009
9:00 pm
Excellent post Mr. Baseball.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
9:00 pm
So of course the Umps get the call wrong. That was so clearly not a HR.
braves70
May 25th, 2009
9:01 pm
Ryan Dempster just walked in a run. As DOB said, how many times have we seen that this year?
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:01 pm
N8-
not arguing, just presenting the other side of the idea because like I said, I do like Berkman
And as scary as the thought might be, yes, i think he could be a worse outfielder at this point then Garret…OK, feel free to fire away at that one!
Jim
May 25th, 2009
9:02 pm
1. B. Jones hitting LHP @ .354 clip at Gwinnett; only .207 against RHP. His Major League OPS is also better than JF the last two years.
2. Norton is dogbreath – RH or LH.
3. So, why not release Norton and bring up B. Jones. Let B. Jones play RF against RHP. Let JF, who has an arm, play some in CF, to give “Ice Cold” a break.
4. If not, 1, 2 and 3, trade for Randy Winn and try to include JF and Norton in deal.
5. How much in minor league talent will Dan Uggla cost the Braves? Legitimate power hitter. Include KJ and JF in deal as well as Morton and some other talent outside of top 5 minor leage players in Braves’ organization.
6. Release Carlyle, or include him in trade; bring up Tony Armas, Jr. or Morton to pitch long relief.
Dave – is Uggla available at a price? Salary only slightly higher than KJ’s, I believe.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
9:03 pm
Berkman? Yeah right! Ya’ll know that Vazquez and probably a boat load of others would have to be moved to Houston for that to happen? Vazquez because of his $11.5M he’s making this year and so on… Look for, and his name has been brought up a million times here, but a guy like Cruz from Texas. Cheap, powerful, has a little speed, don’t know how good defensively he is, but has to be an upgrade from Frenchy. JF in Atl. is obviously a miss match right now, so he’s gone soon. If he does get traded or whatever, gotta wish him the best.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:03 pm
Cubs are losing.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
9:04 pm
Another game changing home team call for the Mets.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:04 pm
You know who really cares if the guys in the clubhouse love Frenchy, if they want to when they aren’t going to win with him playing RF.
I know that came out of nowhere but that’s how I see it.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:04 pm
god at the typo….lol
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:05 pm
I’d say it’s easier getting a guy who’ll hit FA in about a year or 2 than a young powerful hitter.
braves70
May 25th, 2009
9:06 pm
I saw on ESPN’s site that the Giants are after Uggla. It would be nice to trade for him and maybe Hermeida. Send Francine to the Marlins and bring in Hermeida. Local boy for local boy.
Gordon Soulie
May 25th, 2009
9:06 pm
For wrestling fans here ~_~
Tonight on RAW is going to be skit heavy on the Denver Nugget situation.
Psst….It’s ALL a Skit!
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:06 pm
How lame…now all of the sudden you have to pay to watch the replays on Gameday! That’s stupid…didn’t hafta do that last year!
I was gonna check out this alleged home run that you guys have been talking about. Forget that theory…
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
9:06 pm
Wow, I know its the Nats but they just got screwed on that homerun call against the Mets.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
9:06 pm
Gordon Soulie
I know
I’m just saying ~_~
braves70
May 25th, 2009
9:08 pm
McFann, no contest this year between your boy and Geo Soto is there? Soto was hitting .202 with 1 HR.
Boo
May 25th, 2009
9:09 pm
END THE FRANCOEUR FAVORITISM!!!
If Francoeur was born in New York instead of Georgia; he’d already be long gone!
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:09 pm
How is Brian Giles hitting? He’ll be a FA next year and could be trade bait.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:10 pm
braves70 no contest this year between your boy and Geo Soto is there?
Ha, no, there sure isn’t. Don’t know what’s up with Grove…he just sorta fell off or something.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:11 pm
oh…never mind about Giles…
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
9:14 pm
Carlyle allowed two grand slams and a three-run homer in his past five appearances, a stretch that’s seen him battered for 15 hits, 12 earned runs and seven walks in seven innings, not including the inherited runners he’s let in.
His ERA is up to 8.84, and he’s given up 31 hits and 11 walks in 19-1/3 innings this season.
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
9:15 pm
You’re right. I would much prefer him in RF.
No, N8, you don’t. You just haven’t seen him play the OF enough to know better…lol! Trust me on this one, dude is horrible. If he can’t play LF at Minute Made, there’s no way he can play RF in the more spacious Ted.
He’s a great guy, would love to get him, but the Astros aren’t trading him. Now that Bagwell and Biggio are gone, he’s their main draw.
If we’re going to get anyone off of the Astros it’s going to be Lee and it’s going to cost some pitching.
And what’s with these trades that have Francoeur as some type of valuable piece? Everyone knows he’s struggling and his value isn’t high enough to be the centerpiece of any trade right now.There isn’t going to be any fooling of other teams into trading for the guys that aren’t performing for us.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:17 pm
Um…earlier today I said something to the effect of, “The umps have been horrid, but I’m not gonna go all Mark Bradley on them…at least not yet.”
I would, at this time, like to offer my sincerest apology to Mark Bradley! I meant Milton Bradley in that post! So sorry, Mark!
John Grove with a base knock to drive in Milton as I type this…
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
9:17 pm
Say bye bye to Buddy too. I mean, what happend to him all the sudden? He was never great or anything but dude was pretty solid from last year and up to a point this season. Weird!
N8
May 25th, 2009
9:17 pm
I was just looking on Jeff’s page on baseball-reference’s website. At the bottom of each player’s main page, they always compare them to other major leaguer’s who had similar stats at the same age/time of service. One name stood out and it’s a fair comparison.
Jeff Borroughs.
In 1975 Borroughs had 29 HR and 94 RBI, while batting .226. Through age 24 (1975), Jeff had 90 HR and 326 RBI, while batting .261 in 542 games. Borroughs did walk a helluva lot more than Francoeur.
AFTER, 1975, Borroughs went on to play in 1147 more games, (over 10 the next 10 seasons), and hit .260 with 150 HR, and 556 RBI (about 15HR, 55 RBI per season average). 41 of the HR and 114 of the RBI came in 1977. The rest of the years were pretty weak.
In 592 games, Francoeur is a .268 hitter, with 76 HR and 345 RBI.
I’m not sure if anybody ever called Jeff Borroughs the “Natural”. But at this point, I doubt we’re going to see a 41 HR, 114 RBI season from Francoeur anytime soon.
In the end, Borroughs played 1689 games, had 240 HR to go with 882 RBI. Francoeur will be LUCKY to get to those numbers over 16 seasons. My suspicion is that if his numbers don’t rise a tad, he’ll not even get close to playing 16 seasons, much less the 240 HR. Jeff would have to average 16 HR over the next 11 seasons to get to 240.
Not going to happen.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
9:18 pm
cabravesfan – sorry for the slow response – I was on the phone with a new GRE tutoree who I’ll meet this week for the first time (she sounds cute – we shall see – at least with GRE students I don’t have to worry about putting the “air quotes” around tutoring as you have done to me in the past with my Geometry student). Without you and Tom (and a few others) it would be difficult to survive amidst the frequent gloom and doom here. I am not worried about the similarity in our thinking – I think that speaks highly of you (he said in his older-yet-wiser manner). I see the Lakers and Nuggets have started, and, although I won’t watch much, I’ll be rooting against the Lakers on your behalf.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:18 pm
Endy Chavez and Mike Cameron are the only guys I would think might be expendable
I don’t know how you would get Cameron but I think he still lives in ATL…and he can play all over the OF I would think..
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
9:19 pm
I would expect Campillo to replace Carlyle soon
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:20 pm
DOB–
So did they just take BMac because the game was kind of outta hand?
N8
May 25th, 2009
9:20 pm
kirkinga, yeah I’m aware that his OF defense isn’t that great. But my comment about RF, had more to do with Francoeur, than Berkman’s defensive ability. Try and keep up. LOL!
concerned braves fan
May 25th, 2009
9:20 pm
Someone remind me again please why Boyer got the boot, but Buddy stays? Are we waiting for Campillo to heal? That’s the only reason I can think of why Buddy still has a job. I’d be open to trading for Taveraz again, and the other guy, was it Lopez? Seems like the Braves made the wrong call and should have kept them.
N8
May 25th, 2009
9:21 pm
I was just looking on Jeff’s page on baseball-reference’s website. At the bottom of each player’s main page, they always compare them to other major leaguer’s who had similar stats at the same age/time of service. One name stood out and it’s a fair comparison.
Jeff Borroughs.
In 1975 Borroughs had 29 HR and 94 RBI, while batting .226. Through age 24 (1975), Jeff had 90 HR and 326 RBI, while batting .261 in 542 games. Borroughs did walk a helluva lot more than Francoeur.
AFTER, 1975, Borroughs went on to play in 1147 more games, (over 10 the next 10 seasons), and hit .260 with 150 HR, and 556 RBI (about 15HR, 55 RBI per season average). 41 of the HR and 114 of the RBI came in 1977. The rest of the years were pretty weak.
In 592 games, Francoeur is a .268 hitter, with 76 HR and 345 RBI.
I’m not sure if anybody ever called Jeff Borroughs the “Natural”. But at this point, I doubt we’re going to see a 41 HR, 114 RBI season from Francoeur anytime soon.
In the end, Borroughs played 1689 games, had 240 HR to go with 882 RBI. Francoeur will be LUCKY to get to those numbers over 16 seasons. My suspicion is that if his numbers don’t rise a tad, he’ll not even get close to playing 16 seasons, much less the 240 HR. Jeff would have to average 16 HR over the next 11 seasons to get to 240.
Not going to happen.
If this post shows up twice, it’s because it didn’t the first time, so I resent it.
N8
May 25th, 2009
9:21 pm
Enter your comments here
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:23 pm
Lopez? Are you talking about Ohman? I don’t remember anyone else that left besides them 2
Boo
May 25th, 2009
9:23 pm
You’re right. I would much prefer him in RF.
No, N8, you don’t. You just haven’t seen him play the OF enough to know better
Don’t care. No way his defense can be anywhere bad enough to not make him a net benefit due to his offense compared to Jeff Francoeur.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:24 pm
Oh Nunez..yeah he’s in Triple A.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:24 pm
Vinings Jim-
Lord I love you
You make me laugh! Just out of curiosity, something I have always wondered actually, how does a girl actually “sound” cute? I really am curious…
You can’t be that much older then me, can you? and forgive me the air quotes…it’s my nature to mock
Yes, Please, Please PLEASE send all the good karma to the Nuggets and ‘Melo! (that goes for everyone on the blog) The lakers MUST DIE!!!
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:26 pm
DOB
Any word on Nunez..I mean a 2.42 era in 12 games ain’t too bad.
kirkinga
May 25th, 2009
9:28 pm
I know N8, but that’s how bad he is that even that joke makes me cringe….lol!
I believe we’re stuck with Francoeur for at least the rest of the season. He’ll have more value in the offseason than he does now.
Sometimes there’s no easy quick solution. I know that the blog don’t want to hear that, but it is true. JF and KJ are going to remain Braves at least for the rest of this season. And with Schafer struggling, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see Francoeur back next season.
Of course if he breaks out of it, which he has shown some signs of doing, then this talk will die down and his trade value will rise. So best to send him positive energy no matter whether you want to keep him or trade him. I hope he does well.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:30 pm
Speaking of relief
Mariano Gomez has a 1.80 era for Gwinnett in 16 games
Luis Valdez ( their closer I think) has a 1.69 era in 21.1 innings
and Juan Perez has a 1.17 era in 12 games pitched
I’d say with the way Bennett and Buddy have looked you could give at least one of these guys a chance.
braves70
May 25th, 2009
9:30 pm
Seriously, Gwinnett has some outstanding relief pitchers: Vlad Nunez, Mariano Gomez, Juan Perez, Luis Valdez, Boone Logan. Give ‘em a chance Booby.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
9:31 pm
McCann has hit .431 with 11 RBI and a .491 OBP in 15 games since returning from the DL, including four three-hit games….
Schafer is down to .103 (4-for-39) with runners in scoring position.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
9:34 pm
Yes, could also bring up one of those others from Gwinnett. But if they replace Carlyle, they’d want someone to go a few innings, especially with Parr gone now.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:35 pm
DOB-
Fully aware that you probably have no idea and at the risk of receiving a sarcastic response, what are your thoughts on Medlen staying with the club in the ‘pen if he has a good outing tomorrow and Glavine returns to the rotation soon? Any chance or does the club prefer to keep Medlen as a starter and send him back to Gwinnett to get the regular work? Just out of curiosity, I’d actually prefer him to go back and get regular work but…
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
9:35 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/playercompare?sort=6&cat=Batting&pids%5B7062%5D=1&pids%5B7845%5D=1&pids%5B6853%5D=1&pids%5B7569%5D=1&pids%5B7345%5D=1&pids%5B7662%5D=1&pids%5B7628%5D=1
I just compared the stats for some of the more well-known catchers, and even after his slow start, McCann deserves to be at the all-star game. Mauer and Martinez are having great years in the AL, but it’s not really close in the NL.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
9:37 pm
cabravesfan
I see what you mean, we already have a ton of starters.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
9:37 pm
Wow…the Bucs didn’t have far to go for their next series…did they?
Just a hop, skip and a jump across town to Wrigley after playing a weekend series against the W. Sox.
cricket
May 25th, 2009
9:37 pm
Funny thing is, even after today’s lousy game, braves’ position in division standings could still
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
9:38 pm
McFann: Yes, it was an 8-2 game when they took him out. He plays almost every day. No need to run him back out there that last inning.
cricket
May 25th, 2009
9:39 pm
Funny thing is, even after today’s lousy game, braves’ position in division standings could still remain same.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
9:40 pm
cabravesfan – in terms of sounding cute, I’m not sure – it’s instinctive, having heard many voices over the years (somewhat like deciding which centerfielder looks better after two months of spring training). I’ll let you know how my instinct works out on Thursday (I’ve nailed my last couple of guesses). In terms of how much older than you I am, not much in terms of my mental state, a little more in terms of the norms set by such standards as what year one was born (I did take my daughter to Smoltz’s MLB debut at Shea way back when).
NRBQ
May 25th, 2009
9:40 pm
Two Braves beat writers, and the site has only a brief AP game report?
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:42 pm
Vinings Jim-
“nailed…” sooo not the best choice of words there!!
Took your daughter to his debut, huh? OK, so you’re a little older then me…I was 9 in 1988 
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
9:45 pm
cabravesfan
So…let me guess….you’ll be or already are 20 this year?
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:47 pm
Frank from KS-
do they not teach math in Kansas?
add 10 years and you are there!
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
9:50 pm
Pad’s Gonzalez hit #17 and the Padres won again.
WOW….they might end up giving the Dodgers a run for their money before it’s all said and done with.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:51 pm
Roman Gal–
Oh yeah…not really close at all. Hard to tell who the backup should be. There are a few guys who deserve to be backups.
Course, if you ask DirtyDawg, the ASG catchers should be, IDK…Molina and Iannetta? DirtyDawg = The Anti-McCann
Thanks, Chief! Had a feeling</i< that was it, but just wanted to be sure it didn’t have anything to do with that foul ball he took off his foot.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
9:51 pm
cabravesfan – damn, now I have to be more careful of my choice of words with you For the record, my instinct was one yes, one no, and so far I’ve spent 1/2 an hour in a public place with the “yes” and her sister (we are starting in three weeks). Also, I was only 15 when my daughter was born three days before Smoltz’s debut (which was also my grandmother’s last game). (I’m just a math teacher – my numbers might be slightly off).
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:51 pm
Gosh, darn it! I messed up my post!
Sorry ’bout that. Looks ridiculous.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
9:53 pm
cabravesfan – maybe Frank needs my services.
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:54 pm
Dang…I messed up my post…looks horrid. Sorry ’bout that.
(Also sorry if this comes up twice.)
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:57 pm
Vinings Jim-
15, huh? See now I have no idea if you are serious, although I’m leaning towards “not” (not that there’s anything wrong with that
)…and at least tell me the “yes” is legal? 
McFann :Ô:
May 25th, 2009
9:58 pm
In “other” news: McCann has three career doubles against Lincecum. He’s 5-9 against him overall.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
9:58 pm
And I’m thinking that Frank most definitely needs your services
(while freely admitting I could have used them when I was in high school!)
Doc Holiday
May 25th, 2009
9:58 pm
“SURGING BRAVES DISAPPOINT BRAVES FANS”
Typical Braves stuff, they rip a winning team one day and get ripped by a losing team the next.
KJ leading off again…………..1 for 5…………..go figure.
TRAVIS
May 25th, 2009
9:59 pm
Get a real hitting coach and guys like Franceour, Johnson, Schafer, Thornton, Andruw Jones and probably Brandon Jones would not be on the cusp of getting traded because they can’t hit anymore. I get tired of watching our talent wasted because Pendleton can’t coach. Ever since his arrival the young guys have struggled. Thornton was supposed to be the next big bat and he just fell right off the radar. I have yet to hear what exactly this guy does for a living except eat sunflower seeds. These young guys listen more to Chipper than Pendleton. If they have no respect for his talents then get rid of him. Freeman, Heyward, Hernandez and all the rest of the young kids need to stay where they are until TP is gone. He will just mess them up too!
Random
May 25th, 2009
9:59 pm
MFin04 (7:57 pm): ” Kotchman isn’t that good and is in a horrible slump as of late,”
A horrible, two-game slump?!?!?
‘Cause he only got one RBI today? ‘Cause he hasn’t had one single, solitary hit since the day before yesterday??? (Sat — a double, two walks, 2 RBIs; Fri — a single, a walk, 1 RBI.)
Horrible!!! The Braves are doomed!!!
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
10:00 pm
cabravesfan
Yeah, they teach Math in Kansas….I just miscalculated. So..your only 4 years younger then me.
Cool.
Savannah Guy
May 25th, 2009
10:00 pm
I’m watching the Cubs right now and I swear it must be the Braves. The Cubs #3 hitter – Milton Bradley is hitting sub-.200. Reed Johnson is the cleanup man with 1 HR. Hey we offten have had a cleanup man with 0 HR. The Giants are last in runs scored. Is the offense everywhere terrible this year?
Is it not obvious that hitters would be slumping so badly at Wrigley, the epicenter of chewing gum manufacturing? And the incessant jawing, smacking and bubble-blowing problems don’t stop there. Like aftershocks all across the country, gum has replaced steroids. This amounts to a double distraction whammy for baseball players. Will this spread to Japan and Mexico? Only time will tell. It may be too late to stop this once it becomes pandemic. And those little wrapped sugary things seemed so innocent.
Let’s just hope this chewing gum scourge doesn’t spread to the private sector. Distractions could be disastrous. Pilots missing runways while blowing bubbles. Surgeons getting carried away with chewing, a little slip of the knife and… whoops. Teenagers driving while chewing gum is too horrible to even imagine. Texting while driving is already a problem. Add gum to that and, oh, not pretty.
TRAVIS
May 25th, 2009
10:02 pm
I know…I’m ranting…sorry
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
10:02 pm
Frank from KS-
No worries, dude…after you wrote that I calculated it at least 4 times in my head to make sure I was right
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:07 pm
McFann
I really don’t like Martin. Everytime someone in the media mentions him, I’m pretty sure I make a face. And I’m glad he’s not having a good year.
Goldenglove002
May 25th, 2009
10:08 pm
Wow, even Mark Bradley is writing Frenchy off now also. Best off luck, Jeff. As bad as you have been at times, I would still be dissapointed to see you go.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:09 pm
(Oh, and I forgot to add…)
There, I said it!
(I have to get in on today’s phrase of the day!)
Random
May 25th, 2009
10:09 pm
Small wonder that so many Braves radio (sports radio) listeners here are so piteously logic-challenged – check out the following radio commercial transcripts:
“Bobby, if a plumber ever shows up at your house without a license, and can’t show you his license, you’d be better off letting him walk your dog.”
Hmmmmm — doesn’t have a license AND can’t show it to you? Yeah, I guess you’d have to figure that there’s something wrong somewhere.
(Talk about Ossa on Pelion!)
* * * * * * *
“Now more than ever, America’s defense depends on communication with foreign countries.”
“Now more than ever” – ri-i-i-i-ight. And just who have we been defending ourselves against for the last 150 years or so –- the British Empire???
(”The sun never sets . . .”)
* * * * * * *
John Kincaid: ”You can’t afford not to buy it.“
But can you afford to?
* * * * * * *
”You get two entrees and a ‘share-able’ appetizer for only twenty bucks.”
What on Applebee’s menu is NOT share-able? How exactly is that enforced?
* * * * * *
” . . . we can replicate your hair without any of the side effects of gene cloning . . . “
What ARE the side effects of gene cloning? Is this something else I’m supposed to know, but don’t?
(Anal leakage, maybe.)
DHD
May 25th, 2009
10:10 pm
Cleveland just scored 7 in the bottom of the ninth to beat Tampa Bay 11-10. It ain’t ever over til it’s over.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
10:10 pm
cabravesfan re: your 10:02 p.m.
LMAO
Umm…..you’ve got to be a blonde after that post.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
bravesphanatic004
May 25th, 2009
10:12 pm
Goldenglove,
at this point jeff is going to have to hit a homer everyday for the next two weeks to get everyone off his back. everyone has turned on him….. its no one’s fault but his own. i have always loved jeff but its time for him to go. i dont think he will be with this club come september. if and when he is dealt/released i will wish him the best of luck. but right now he and the rest of the outfield is killing this team. we need some change….
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
Frank from KS-
sadly for the stereotype I am blonde, but that has nothing to do with my poor math skills
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:13 pm
nolie
I think I’ve got that same case of sarcasm-not-showing-up-in-writing disease you’ve got. I thought it was pretty blatantly obvious, saying things like Devil Rays, and Scott Thorman. Let’s hope this doesn’t end up like the swine flu and turn into a pandemic.
RHR
May 25th, 2009
10:15 pm
DOB – Thanks for the post game updates. Schafer sounds like he’s in a good place mentally and he seems to be working hard.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:15 pm
add gum to that and, oh, not pretty. Savannah Guy
My Art professor always told us that if we “want to be somebody, ya gotta die young!”
Why they're bench players
May 25th, 2009
10:15 pm
In his four starts replacing Chipper Jones, Prado is 1-14 with a single and has seen his batting average drop from .312 to .254 in the past five days (including the pinch hitting appearance May 21st.)
I knew Martin Phoney would be regress to the mean.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
10:16 pm
cabravesfan – the “Yes” has been teaching for the last year or two (GRE does imply preparing for Grad School). Not that I would betray the sacred confidence of the student-teacher relationship except in cases of national security (how about those Nuggets)?
Why they're bench players
May 25th, 2009
10:16 pm
Prado is 1-14 with a single
Excuse me: a double. I knew that too.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
10:18 pm
RomanGal – as soon as I master the WordPress codes for [sarcasm] I’ll let you know.
Del
May 25th, 2009
10:18 pm
I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see the Braves making the playoffs this year. Reason: They win the ones they probably should lose; and they lose the ones they probably should win. Hence a .500 season. Not good enouigh!!
"MFin04" by Random
May 25th, 2009
10:19 pm
. . .
“I’m my own man now!”
. . .
“Ye-e-a-ah!!! Wait – what?”
. . .
“That phone does sound pretty cool . . .”
. . .
“Uh – a job?”
. . .
“I-I really want that phone . . .”
. . .
“Mom? Dad? Please?”
“Mom?!?”
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:21 pm
Thanks, Vinings Jim.
I still don’t even know how to make a link look pretty. I’m gonna have to work on that, too.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:21 pm
Roman Gal
I still don’t like how he played in like 13 innings in the All Star game. I mean it’s common sense to atleast let Mac play( when he was better than both of them), cause in the ASG if a catcher gets hurt and the others have been used, one that has already been used can come into the game. Soto also only played like 4 innings.
In “other” news I’m glad Martin got into a slump after the ASB, serves him right for playing in that game that long.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:23 pm
Why they’re bench players
Prado didn’t even play for like a week before Chipper got hurt, so it’s all not his fault. And had Omar not got hurt he’d be starting soooo>>>>?
keylargo
May 25th, 2009
10:25 pm
Doobie Brothers
Live on Directv channel 79.
Vinings Jim
May 25th, 2009
10:25 pm
cabravesfan – I will admit to being old enough that I know I’ll wake up between 6:00 and 6:30 tomorrow, so I should drop off now (especially if I’m going to try to hang with you left coasters for the game tomorrow). As summer progresses I hope my sleep pattern will gradually shift later. If Tom shows up later, tell him I said, “Hi.”
keylargo
May 25th, 2009
10:26 pm
Sorry, misread that. Live concert from 2004.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
10:28 pm
cabravesfan
Just so you know…my comment was made all in fun. :>)
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:28 pm
Rays blew a 10 nothing lead…..Price only threw 3 innings…100 pitches….that’s why Hanson hasn’t been called up, he’s got the same problem too many pitches in 5 innings or less.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:29 pm
2 on 1 out for Washington in 9th
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:30 pm
Me neither, bravos 2249. Of course, all we need to do is sick McFann on Clint Hurdle and she’ll do us justice. I’m working on a plan as we speak…
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:30 pm
You know things are wacky when Moyer loses to Florida.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:31 pm
Roman Gal
I know. I think he got booed at TF after the ASB.
Jake W.
May 25th, 2009
10:31 pm
“In his four starts replacing Chipper Jones, Prado is 1-14 with a single and has seen his batting average drop from .312 to .254 in the past five days (including the pinch hitting appearance May 21st.)
I knew Martin Phoney would be regress to the mean.”
Yeah, because we all know everyone on the blog was clamoring for Chipper to sit in favor of Prado. May I vote next to bench JJ in favor of Jojo.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
10:31 pm
Would the Dodgers consider trading Andre Ethier (especially after Manny gets back)? I heard that he’s begun to fall out of favor with the organization. If this is true and they’d consider moving him, it’d be worth a look.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:32 pm
PWHjort
I’d take a chance on anyone right know.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
10:33 pm
An article on Jurrjens written by a friend of mine: http://www.statisticianmagician.com/?p=131
brian
May 25th, 2009
10:34 pm
in all this doom and gloom I repeat things are bright for the future in the hitting department. Heyward is the real deal. Freeman is not far behind. Except for his first at bat which was terrible I was very impressed with Cody Johnson – showed good patience, got on base, and smashed a monster home run to center. Rohrbough looked good and would have been great if he had better control early on.
The guys also could not be nicer and seem to have fun warming up and on the field. They seem to enjoy the game. It was a refreshing change to watch
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:35 pm
bravos2249, Really? I don’t remember that. Of course, it seems pretty rude to just walk up to someone and tell them that they’re 3rd string.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:36 pm
Peter Gammons just hit it on the eye. Jeff Francoeur was rushed to the big leagues and he’s now paying for it. I don’t agree that we should just keep sticking him in there though…Kansas City here he comes!
RHR
May 25th, 2009
10:38 pm
Psssh. I’ve got Jim beat, I was only 7 when my 19 year old daughter was born.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:39 pm
Roman Gal
Your talking about McCann in the All Star game right? I can’t remember if someone online said they would boo him or if it actually happened. I’m sure some boos where heard. After the game I think even Chipper said he didn’t understand why BMAC didn’t get in there sooner, I mean a game that last that long and he doesn’t play til the 15th?
Why they're bench players
May 25th, 2009
10:39 pm
Yeah, because we all know everyone on the blog was clamoring for Chipper to sit in favor of Prado.
I’ve seen some here asking why “the Braves signed Chipper to an extension” and mentioned how Prado and Infante can handle third “cheaper.”
Cruz to Atl. Foundation
May 25th, 2009
10:39 pm
NELSON CRUZ 2009- avg.293, 12HR, 33RBI, 23R, 8SB. 29 year old OF right handed bat.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
10:39 pm
Jeff Francoeur is paying for his inability to adjust. Not the fact that he was rushed to the big leagues. If that was the real problem it would have corrected itself after nearly 4 seasons in MLB.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:40 pm
“Before we went out I was talking to Russell and he said he was going in after [starting catcher Geovany] Soto.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080715&content_id=3138099&vkey=allstar2008&fext=.jsp
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:41 pm
PWHjort
That’s what he meant. He got instant gratification, and now that he’s struggling he can’t adjust.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
10:44 pm
bravos2249,
I was saying that I don’t blame the fans for booing him because he was a jerkish nutbag to McCann. But yeah, it really was stupid for him to play so long. Let’s just hope that McCann starts this time so we don’t have to worry about it.
And with regards to the All-Star game, it really annoys me that the managers feel the need to play pretty much all the players. Let the starters stay in for 5 innings or so and then start changing. That way we don’t have the same problems that we had last year.
Oh, and even if McCann doesn’t start, I’m sure he’ll be the first back-up. Charlie Manuel is the NL manager and he’s bore witness to McCann’s wrath many times.
Couch Tater
May 25th, 2009
10:46 pm
keylargo,
I’ve been watching. They’re still tight.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
10:47 pm
I just think Francoeur is like my brother in that he’s as stubborn as a mule! I don’t know how stubborn a mule is, but that’s not the point. JF can’t be responding to TP, Chipper, or Mac at all otherwise we’d see the Jeff of old more consistantly. Alright, the JF talk is getting old.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:49 pm
Roman Gal
Yeah I was thinking the same with Charlie. But he did pick Joe Torre to be on his staff and Jerry Manuel (I don’t understand that one). But the one Brave I hope for is Jair or at least Lowe, but Jair if he doesn’t falter should defiantly go.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
10:51 pm
Vinings Jim-
Looks like I missed you…you never said the “yes” was your GRE gal…that does make a difference
Good luck and good night!
Frank from KS-
I know- no offense taken
Believe me, you are far from the first to make fun of me for my “blonde moments”
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:51 pm
Well looks like Carlos Quentin is hurt again and the Sox won’t be trading Dye anything soon. lol Like our FO is smart enough to get a vet whose actually productive.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
10:53 pm
Man I know the team stunk today but waiting until 9 pm (here) for the game just sucks.
steve_97060
May 25th, 2009
10:55 pm
well, I ran this blog thru my statistical software package “crapstistics”, and it calculated that 93.48% of the post’s today are either;
A) throwing a player under the bus
B) throwing a coach/manager under the bus
C) throwing Liberty/GM/Pres under the bus
D) throwing players & coach/managers under the bus
this 93.48% value is calculated with a +/- 2.7% error. this value is only slighter on days when the team loses, when the team wins this value drops all the way down to 82.69% with a +/- 2.6% error.
this blog continues to operate with a decidedly “negative” bias toward the team and current management..
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
10:55 pm
Jeff Francoeur projects to hit about 12 HR’s with 80-85 RBI while batting around .230-.235.
He’s done in Atlanta after this year. As for the trade rumors, who is gonna play RF if Frenchy gets traded? That is the million dollar question.
I’m all for the Braves pulling the trigger on Matt Holliday. Want to know why? BECAUSE I WANT TO WIN. I’m tired of losing, it sucks. Anybody else tired of watching this team continually coming up short?
BossLady
May 25th, 2009
10:57 pm
Just finished catching up on the blog today. PETE, that was the best story about Delta. We know they come home, but, to actually realize
you are a part of it is life changing. Yes, life changing. (I guess you would have to take it like I did to feel this way)
When Francouer did not want to sign and go to arbitration I think the Braves should have taken him there. If they had pointed out just how really terrible his 2008 year performance had been maybe he would have
showed up with a reason to succeed. Giving in to him, just added to
the Golden Boy $hi+.
Joe Simpson said that Kotchman was given the day off until Chipper took himself out of the game. How do you think that makes Kotchman feel?
McCann had a bad day with the homeplate umpire. They had been swapping words most of the day since the interference that was not called. We all know that the second one was “flagrant”? but that umpire already had an attitude.
BossLady
May 25th, 2009
10:58 pm
meant shown
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
11:01 pm
Coach (2010 or Bust)
Now see I’d take that from Schafer, but a 5 yr player…NO.
Goldenglove002
May 25th, 2009
11:03 pm
Coach, I think you just hit it right on the head outside of Frenchy being done after this year. He’ll stick around easily if he posts those numbers, what other option is there? Are we going to fill in both corner OF spots?
oh SNAP!
May 25th, 2009
11:09 pm
Coach (2010 or Bust)
I believe the Braves would not trade him unless they get an OF in return. I mean Wren’s not stupid.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
11:13 pm
Actually Berkman is a switch hitter. Unless you meant the hand he throws the ball (BravesFanChris24)
yes he is and up there very close to Chipper as one of the best in history.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
11:15 pm
Coach, who would you give up for half a year of Holliday?
Supes
May 25th, 2009
11:17 pm
bravos2249
“Peter Gammons just hit it on the eye. Jeff Francoeur was rushed to the big leagues and he’s now paying for it. I don’t agree that we should just keep sticking him in there though…Kansas City here he comes”
Maybe, but we heard nothing of this sort when he was hitting HR, was one of the most clutch hitters in baseball and drove in 100RBI’s in back to back seasons. I don’t buy that argument.
PWHjort
“Jeff Francoeur is paying for his inability to adjust. Not the fact that he was rushed to the big leagues. If that was the real problem it would have corrected itself after nearly 4 seasons in MLB.”
Completely agree with this point!
Here comes Coach ranting and raving about Matt Holliday. Unreal. It’s only going to get worst.
How about this…No Matt Holliday, Jermayne Dye or Xavier Nady/Nick Swisher.
What this Braves team needs is a younger, less expensive player or one signed to an affordable long term extension.
Not sure if the Orioles would be willing to part with Adam Jones (not packman!)…but maybe if they fall out of contention they would be willing to entertain a trade. Something like Jeff or Brandon Jones…plus Morton or Medlin?
Adam Jones is a young, dynamic corner OF who could develop into a solid and consistant offensive producer for any lineup. Why not in ATL?
nolie
May 25th, 2009
11:17 pm
The way McCann’s been hitting since he came off the DL makes me think of the ‘06 BMac…just needs a few more doubles (mcFann)
lets get glasses for all the hitters even if they don’t have prescription lenses, maybe the placebo effect will make them better.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:20 pm
I doubt the O’s would part with Adam Jones…they’re a club on the finishing leg of a long rebuilding process, so I don’t see him going anywhere.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
11:21 pm
Coach, who would you trade for half a year of Holliday?
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:22 pm
Supes,
We might be able to get Adam “Pacman” Jones for Francoeur/B. Jones and Morton/Medlen.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
11:23 pm
Adam Jones? Are you out of your damn frigging mind? The orioles would never part with a cornerstone player. They might as well dissolve their whole freaking franchise if they did that.
Supes, try again because you my friend don’t have a better idea than Matt Holliday.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:24 pm
And as Efrim reminded me the other day, they’ve got a bunch of stud pitching prospects at AA, so I don’t know if they’d really want that much pitching (of course, can never have too much pitching, but I digress…). They’re probably on the lookout for SS/Infield help…
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:25 pm
I’m just glad to see that the “**** you! You’ll get nothing and like it!” trades are still being presented here. Adam Jones is becoming an absolute monster for the O’s. For anyone to even think that a player such as Jones would be traded for our flotsam and jetsam is amusing.
Huy Ear from the Philippines
May 25th, 2009
11:27 pm
I heard earlier today that the Braves were in serious talks with the Reds about aquiring Ron Gant. Dude can rake and he’s a Texan.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:28 pm
Then again, Coach and Tomahawkin keep stoking the fires of their Nelson Cruz man-crush. Why would Cruz be available? He’s tied for the Rangers team lead in HRs and is second in SBs. The Rangers would get rid of David Murphy, Marlon Byrd and Andruw Jones before they’d get rid of Cruz.
Huy Ear from the Philippines
May 25th, 2009
11:29 pm
Coach, I have a better idea than Holliday! His name is Ron Gant. He’s a Texan.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
11:31 pm
We should trade Allen Iverson to the Pistons for Chauncey Billups.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
11:33 pm
I think I’ve got that same case of sarcasm-not-showing-up-in-writing disease you’ve got. I thought it was pretty blatantly obvious, saying things like Devil Rays, and Scott Thorman (Roman Gal)
I guess with all the incredibly stupid things that get said here on an almost daily basis, the readers have become so inured to ignorance that no matter how hard we try we just can’t sound as dumb as some of the real morons. Gotta keep working at it.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:33 pm
I have a better idea, PWH.
The Braves should trade Frenchy and Jo-Jo in a three-way deal for Brad Hawpe and Adrian Gonzalez. The Rockies get Jo-Jo and the Padres get Frenchy. We get Hawpe and Gonzalez. We’ll turn around and trade Kotchman to the A’s for Matt Holliday.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
11:33 pm
Here is a better idea. Why don’t we just sit on our hands while the Mets make a run at Matt Holliday. TnBrian, I’m not the GM. But if I were, I would take my chances and roll the dice.
Jeff Francoeur, Charlie Morton, Jo-Jo Reyes and one more low minor leaguer not named Heyward, Teheran or C.Johnson.
Huy Ear from the Philippines
May 25th, 2009
11:33 pm
Chris Sabo could be a smart option if Gant is a no go. Although, I believe Kotchman is a fine 1st baseman and we need outfielder anyways.
RC
May 25th, 2009
11:34 pm
Got to agree with everyone else, no way the Orioles part with Adam Jones for anything short of Jurrjiens. Also, I saw earlier that someone was complaining that Lance Berkman wouldn’t fit in this lineup because he’s lefthanded. Actually, he’s a switch hitter, but I doubt that the Astros are entertaining trading him, since he’s a local guy who played his college ball at Rice, and is a big part of the community. Plus, the Astros are pretty much built for this year, not a lot of building blocks for the future there.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:34 pm
We’ll also send Schafer down to AA and call up Gorkys because Gorkys has never made an out in the bigs.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
11:36 pm
Chop Chop, you a damned liar.
I haven’t said on single word about that Texas Rangers outfielder since December. Of course, that was before his break out season that he’s enjoying right now. I saw it coming, you didn’t.
RC
May 25th, 2009
11:38 pm
Coach – Nobody is questioning that Matt Holliday would make the current lineup better. The question is what incentive do the A’s have to trade him for a package that small? The A’s are flush with young pitching, so Morton and Reyes wouldn’t be that attractive of pieces for them, and considering that the Braves might have to cut Francouer due to his salary next year, I don’t see any reason a cash strapped team like Oakland would want him. They are better off offering him arbitration and taking the 2 draft picks they receive instead.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:40 pm
Hahahahaha…
I love it.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:41 pm
I thought Cruz would be good this year, Coach. You a damn lie, son.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
11:43 pm
Is there a hitter out there that we haven’t mentioned as a possibility?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
11:45 pm
RC, ever heard of Billy Beane?
Matt Holliday will be traded. It’s May. The A’s are already nine games back. Young talented pitching is the top commodity in baseball.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:45 pm
Whoa! Put the kids to bed, it’s fight night on the blog…
TnBrian, of course there are. But that’s what the people who work in baseball for a living have to find out, right?
Boo
May 25th, 2009
11:46 pm
Coach, you also made Jeff Bennett out to be an upcoming ace in the 2007-2008 offseason.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
11:47 pm
What made Andruw Jones at 19 yrs old more ready for the big league club than Jason Heyward? In ‘96 we had a better OF than we do now. — 18 Wheels of Love
18 Wheels (and KC): Andruw Jones signed at 16 and already had nearly three full seasons of minor league ball before he reached the majors at 19, and that was only for 31 games at the end of his third full season of pro ball.
He was an exceptionally rare talent who, after turning 18 in April 1995, proceeded to hit .277 with 41 doubles, 5 triples, 25 homers, 100 RBI and 56 stolen bases that season in 139 games. Look at those numbers again, soak them in.
Then he spent almost the entire next season in the minors, moving up the ladder at three different stops before Braves called him up late in the season.
That year in the minors (1996), after turning 19 in April, Jones hit .339 with 27 doubles, 5 triples, 34 homers, 92 RBI, 30 stolen bases and a 1.072 OPS — in only 116 games! Again, soak those numbers in. Dude was the top prospect in all of baseball for two years before called up.
At 19, he hit .369 with 12 homers and 38 RBI in 38 games in Double-A, with a 1.107 OPS. Repeat, at AGE 19, same age as Heyward now.
At 19, Jones hit .378 with five homers and a 1.214 OPS in 12 games in Triple-A. Again, at age 19.
Dude was TOO GOOD to stay in the minors a day longer. Totally destroyed minor league pitching despite being, I’m fairly certain, the youngest guy in his leagues in those last couple of stops. For sure at the last stop.
As great a prospect as Heyward (who turned 19 last August) obviously is, his numbers pale next to those put up by Andruw at the same age. And I haven’t even mentioned Andruw’s defense.
Before this season, Heyward had a .315 average with 12 homers, 62 RBI and 16 stolen bases in 139 professional games, including seven above the low-A level (and none above high-A).
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:47 pm
Hahahahaha…
Oh, man. You’re the best, Coach.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
11:48 pm
ok, just turned on the basketball game…did the ref just seriously call a technical on the Nuggets for that?? Lord the NBA refs suck!
nolie
May 25th, 2009
11:48 pm
knew Martin Phoney would be regress to the mean. (Why they’re bench)
he’s not regressing to the his mean, because none of his career stats are anywhere near that bad.
his career BA numbers in both minors and limited majors is .300 so what he is doing right is “un-regressing away” from the his current mean, not regressing to it.. In other words at this point it should be characterized as a slump.
He might be regressing to what you consider his talent level to be, but that’s not the same thing.Maybe you know stats but that statement makes it sound like you don’t.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
11:50 pm
Steve, yes sir. The Braves way seems to be getting the not so big named players anyways.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:50 pm
Coach,
It’s people like you that remind me of why I love this blog.
Breaking News!
May 25th, 2009
11:50 pm
I’m all for the Braves pulling the trigger on Matt Holliday.
Coach wants Matt Holliday! This is brand new information! Stay tuned!
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 2009
11:52 pm
Gorkys Hernandez ain’t ready for the big leagues. but then again, neither is Jordan Schafer.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
11:52 pm
Those Andruw Jones minor league stats are remarkable.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
11:53 pm
NELSON CRUZ 2009- avg.293, 12HR, 33RBI, 23R, 8SB. 29 year old OF right handed ba (Cruz to Atl)
too lazy to look it up, what’s his numbers like away from Texas?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:54 pm
TnBrian, doesn’t necessarily have to be no-name players or top prospects that casual fans don’t know about. Could be a big-name player quietly on the block, too. Never no. That’s why the industry folks are, well, the industry folks. What they deem to be the best player for the best price in the end, you can count on it (almighty payroll willing, of course).
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:55 pm
897 OPS Home vs. 883 OPS away.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
11:56 pm
Nolie-
here are Cruz’s splits…not bad this year but his overall career numbers are nothing particularly specatcular
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=6242
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
11:56 pm
.284/.315/.568, nolie
5 HR at home/7 HR on the road
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
11:57 pm
Blanco went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts today, and he’s now batting .215 in Triple-A.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
11:57 pm
Never know…know…ugh.
cabravesfan
May 25th, 2009
11:59 pm
Gotta love that Carmelo is 3-16 from the floor and the Nuggets are still going to beat the [expletive deleted] lakers by double digits
bravos2249
May 26th, 2009
12:00 am
Coach (2010 or Bust)
No one can sit here and say a Frenchy/Morton/Jones deal would not bring something valuable in.Jones can play, we just have too many LHH.
oh SNAP!
May 26th, 2009
12:02 am
Schafer went 0-4 4 K’s and is batting .205 in MLB. I’m sure he’d be hitting around .235 if he was in Triple A too. Many players can throw a 80 mph fastball+, which he seems to keep missing. Notice I said 80+.
Tomahawkin
May 26th, 2009
12:03 am
Chop Chop….
I still Have My Thang for Nellie Cruz…
Its just too bad we didn’t get him last year at the deadline when I called for it…
Now he is untouchable now….
“Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda!”
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
12:03 am
News flash:
A: I’m sick of Bobby Cox. The man can’t even do his job anymore due to his knee’s.
B: I’m tired of losing. p.s. can’t stand idiot losers in this blog who enjoy losing.
C. I would sell my right nut if it would guarantee a playoff spot.
D. Matt Holliday will be traded, write it down. It will suck for us if he ends up with the Mets.
E. Greg Norton is currently in possession of the compromising pictures of Bobby Cox.
F. Bobby Cox has Deja Vu. Can you see it? A.J in 07, Frenchy in 08 and Schafer in 09.
G. Our 2010 rotation: Tim Hudson, Jair Jurrjens, Derek Lowe, Tommy Hanson, Kenshin Kawakami.
David O'Brien
May 26th, 2009
12:03 am
I’ve got no problem giving credit to Coach on Cruz. He was relentless in pushing for him last fall/winter. Some of us questioned (as did the Braves and plenty of other teams that discussed him) whether to expect too much or give up too much for a guy that old with so little big-league experience, etc.
As it turns out, Cruz would’ve been a nice pickup for this team.
TnBrian
May 26th, 2009
12:06 am
Coach, a man needs both his nuts, just sayin.
No More Bobby
May 26th, 2009
12:09 am
So we sweep the Jays and lose to the Giants? A good manager has you prepared for the top teams and the ones easy to overlook.
gotigers72
May 26th, 2009
12:09 am
Schafer struck out 4 times today, and the 3rd one, the one with the bases loaded, he swung at 3 balls. Pitches that weren’t close to the strike zone, against a guy that had already walked in a run. Dude is pressing badly. Needs a couple of days off [at least], but no one at this level can play CF. To be honest, he needs to go down a level, but who would be brought up? Can B. Jones play CF? Bad move to trade Josh Anderson before it was known if Schafer could hit at the ML level during anything except ST. Josh already has 9 SBs and is hitting at least 50-60 points higher than Jordan.
How much longer will Bud-Roe Carlyle be allowed to relieve and give up 3 run and grand slam homers? Has an ERA closer to 9 than 8. Time to say adios to the Budster.
Just shows how many holes the Braves have in their lineup when the bases are loaded and 3 batters can not even manage to get ONE run in. Francoeur is going back to last year when the bases are loaded. Either struck out or hit into a double play then. Mark Bradley and Mark Bowman [the Marks Brothers?] may be right in suggesting he and the Braves may be better off if he’s traded. The 6, 7, and 8 spots in the order weren’t as productive as the 9 spot today, and the 9 spot had the only extra base hit out of those spots. Pretty easy for the opposing pitcher when he has 4 spots [plus GA's spot] to go to for an out.
Sure the Braves have played good for the last 18 games, but if they don’t get some pop added in at least a couple of those spots, it’s gonna be a long year. Again.
Boo
May 26th, 2009
12:10 am
But when will Coach be right about the great Jeff Bennett?
Chop Chop
May 26th, 2009
12:12 am
Selling a nut for a playoff spot is stupid.
Selling a nut for a World Series title? Maybe.
gotigers72
May 26th, 2009
12:17 am
Coach – Send me your right nut and I’ll guarantee a playoff spot for the Braves. Both nuts will get them a World Series win – Satan.MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:20 am
News flash:
A: I’m sick of Bobby Cox. The man can’t even do his job anymore due to his knee’s.
Does one need knees to manage? A serious question. There have been a lot of feeble arguments as to why exactly Cox is ineffective, but knees? C’mon, man.
B: I’m tired of losing. p.s. can’t stand idiot losers in this blog who enjoy losing.
Seems to me like the most passionate blogs are those after a loss (even during a 12-5 or 7 or whatever stretch). Not buyin’ it. P.S. I don’t like losin’ either big guy.
C. I would sell my right nut if it would guarantee a playoff spot.
Who would buy it?
D. Matt Holliday will be traded, write it down. It will suck for us if he ends up with the Mets.
Indeed he shall! Indeed it would! But would it not also suck if the Mets acquired a pitcher? Should we not also endeavor to acquire every move that Omar Minaya wishes to make?
E. Greg Norton is currently in possession of the compromising pictures of Bobby Cox.
Strange coming from the President of Norton’s Wild Norsemen, the Official Greg Norton fan club. Alas, though, it seems to be true so I’ll let it slide…
F. Bobby Cox has Deja Vu. Can you see it? A.J in 07, Frenchy in 08 and Schafer in 09.
Next.
G. Our 2010 rotation: Tim Hudson, Jair Jurrjens, Derek Lowe, Tommy Hanson, Kenshin Kawakami.
Tim Hudson is currently quite injured. Also, we have a fellow named Javier Vazquez who seems to be quite good on our staff. Now, I think your rotation is both dandy and quite feasible, and probably the best possible outcome, but let’s get Huddy healthy before we start carving it onto obelisks in Thebes, eh?
Fin
the man behind the curtain
May 26th, 2009
12:21 am
BWAAAHAAHAA!
YOU BRAVES FANS ENTERTAIN ME WITH YOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR CRAPPY TEAM!
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR MANAGER WHOSE TIME HAS PASSED.
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR PATHETIC RELIEF PITCHERS.
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR INCOMPETENT OUTFIELDERS. ESPECIALLY THE FRENCH ONE AND THE YOUNG ONE WHO WIFFS
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR CATCHER WHO CAN’T CATCH AND IS AFRAID TO TAG RUNNERS
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR TIRED OLD THIRD BASEMAN WHO IS PERPETUALLY HURT
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR #4 AND #5 STARTERS WHO ARE IFFY AT BEST
BWAAAHAAHAA!
WELCOME TO BASEBALL HELL!
YOUR TEAM SUCKS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY….
FOREVER.
BWAAAHAAHAA!
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
12:23 am
Thanks, O’Brien. But of course, I was opposed to Javier Vasquez. I think he has been worth the risk in spite of today’s performance.
Jeff Bennett is having a fine season out of the bullpen (2.25 ERA). He just needs to get his walk’s down. I still believe that he could be a decent fifth starter if given the chance.
Vasquez is gonna get traded. It has to happen. Atlanta is committed to Hudson, Jurrjens, Lowe and Hanson. Kawakami can’t be traded and for reasons that go way beyond his performance on the field.
Boo
May 26th, 2009
12:23 am
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
12:26 am
Bud Selig: Man, I’d sell an ‘09 playoff spot for a grumpy blogger’s right nut. Hey… what have we here??
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
12:26 am
Boo, nicely done at 12:23
IRS
May 26th, 2009
12:30 am
Coach(2010 or bust) who will be paying the employee tax on Mr. Vazquez’s 11.5 million dollar portion of his 2010 contract?
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:30 am
Jeff Bennett is having a fine season out of the bullpen (2.25 ERA). He just needs to get his walk’s down. I still believe that he could be a decent fifth starter if given the chance.
I wish Whitesnake had written a song about inherited runners right now, because I would so post those lyrics. Oh, and if walks were so easily curable, we’d have a lot less failed pitching prospects, wouldn’t we?
P.S.–1.88 WHIP!
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
12:31 am
Steve, your hilarious. I’m demented, but what else is new?
More than a few blogger’s have noticed the absence of Bobby Cox when the opportunity to argue with the umps comes about. The man just had his knee’s replaced for the second time.
Greg Norton did his job last season. Did I say last season? His current.115 BA ain’t getting it done.
Tim Hudson has a brand new elbow. The man is an ACE, period. Healthy or injured. So yes, we have a rotation in 2010 that will be lights out. Write it down Steve. It’s Monday, May 25th 2009 and I’m all over it when I say this team is headed for the playoffs in 2010.
Braveheart
May 26th, 2009
12:35 am
It’s Monday, May 25th 2009 and I’m all over it when I say this team is headed for the playoffs in 2010. (COACH)
Can I take this prediction to the bank like your playoff prediction in 2008?
TennesseePaul
May 26th, 2009
12:36 am
DOB: Cool. I was starting to wonder if there was a press release I missed. Braves lost, but at least my trip is still in tact.
nolie
May 26th, 2009
12:36 am
Not saying that Holliday ain’t a good player cause he is, but he’s not nearly as good away from Coors as he is at home, even though he improved the last two NL seasons. IMO he ain’t good enough AFC to pay what it will take to get him for a mere three month rental. I do not think he will go cheap, Billy knows he has a hot property .
Braveheart
May 26th, 2009
12:36 am
If Rusty Staub can make it to the majors at the age of 19, why can’t Heyward? LOL
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:39 am
Didn’t you say that about the 2009 Braves, too? And I’m not sure why Cox’s current lack of ejections makes him a bad manager, or worthy of canning and calling “unable to do his job.” His job isn’t to get ejected, it’s to manage games.
Huddy is an ace. He also isn’t healthy yet. I agree that your proposed rotation would be great. Patience, padawan, in time your dreams shall be realized!
I agreed with you on the Mad Norseman, fwiw.
Oh, and if you stopped saying “write it down” so much you wouldn’t have “blogger’s” calling you out so much on trivial matters such as Norton and Bennett…
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:40 am
Erm, 2008 Braves, Alex….
a643dp
May 26th, 2009
12:41 am
Coach(2010 or bust) Why do you think we will have Mr. Hudson in 2010.It is a club option. You probably think that the Braves will pick up the 12 million dollar option. Correct if he is healthy the Braves will pick up the 2010 12 million dollar option. One major thing that some people on this blog do not understand. Mr. Hudson has the power to void the club option. That is a huge issue if he comes back in early August and goes ie. 7-2 2.87. That would allow the buzz around the league that he is back and worthy of a 30M/3yr contact. So be careful of what you wish for a solid 2 month hudson might cost us a solid 7 month hudson. Mr. Wren if he is smart might start him in the pen until Sep. to slow his public viewing as far as health goes.
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:44 am
I wouldn’t think Hudson would void a 12MM option coming off TJ surgery in this economy…
Chop Chop
May 26th, 2009
12:45 am
Steve,
You’re a numbers guy. What is the statistical likelihood that Coach will listen to your advice?
Smuck Foltzie
May 26th, 2009
12:46 am
Whoever, Cox, Wren, or a combination thereof:
Made the decision to go into the season without a viable plan for additional outfielders to replace a player who had never played above AA ball before (24) or a player who has melted down repeatedly in the past (7) should have their head squeezed and popped like a teenaged zit in a shop vice. Stupidest decision was letting Josh Anderson go for nothing. A leadoff hitter who has proven he can at least put the ball in play.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
12:46 am
Um, Tim Hudson has already said that he want’s to stay with the Braves. His option is a moot point.
Braveheart, nobody could have predicted the total breakdown of the rotation last season. That team , if healthy would have made a run at the playoff’s.I also made the caveat of ” if they stay healthy” in my prediction but nobody remembers that part.
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:48 am
Chop Chop, about the likelihood that we’d find a buyer for his testicle. I cannot, of course, even begin to think about quantifying that with statistical numbers…
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
12:49 am
Um, Tim Hudson has already said that he want’s to stay with the Braves. His option is a moot point. -Coach
Tex wanted to stay here the rest of his career.
Chop Chop
May 26th, 2009
12:51 am
It’s a team option on Hudson, Coach. His option isn’t a moot point. If he doesn’t pitch well upon his return, he’s gone. End of story. Print it. Take it to the bank.
Boom.
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
12:52 am
Vazquez ain’t getting traded. Good Lord.
Braveheart
May 26th, 2009
12:53 am
Nah, Coach, you not only told me that the Braves were so playoff good, that I should take it to the bank, but by the time I took it to the bank for you, the banks were going under, and begging for bailouts. So your infamous take it to the bank declaration was so wrong in so many ways…..
Chop Chop
May 26th, 2009
12:55 am
I guess you should have gone to uga-brave for your financial advice, Braveheart. He has all the answers.
Turkeylegs
May 26th, 2009
12:55 am
Francouer is a BUM.
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
12:56 am
Coach, you’re like a glaze-eyed gambler in Vegas. Your Cruz-clamor was that big hit the house pays to keep you shoving your dough back in…
nolie
May 26th, 2009
12:57 am
So your infamous take it to the bank declaration was so wrong in so many ways (BH)
yeah doesn’t mean quite the same thing lately do it?
Steve from OH
May 26th, 2009
12:57 am
Francouer is a BUM.
Really? This is news to us here on the blog, seeing as we’ve never seen anything like this before. Chop Chop, were you aware that Francoeur is a BUM?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
1:00 am
Um, Steve. The issue with Greg Norton isn’t trivial. The man isn’t doing his F-N job. He has one single responsibility, to pinch hit. He’s a waste of a roster spot.
Losing Omar Infante only magnifies the problem. We have lost our valuable utility man. Diory Hernandez can’t cover the same ground. I want Brian Barton on this team and it has nothing to do with his bat. The resident rocket scientist can play all three outfield spots, spot start in CF for Schafer, come in as a late inning defensive replacement, pinch hit, pinch run, lead off, steal a base or two, bat in front of the pitcher, carry the water cooler etc. etc. etc.
His team value is ten times that of Greg Norton and Barton certainly can’t hit any worse than .115. It’s a freaking no brainer. Wren needs to get off his ass and do his DAMN JOB.
a643dp
May 26th, 2009
1:00 am
Coach are you serious you believe everything you hear. How many times does a player stay for less money????? Few and far between, like Tim would say naw i think I might leave after this year. You dont know much about politics and sports agents do you. I would hate to see you negotiate with Furcal and his agent. These are the list of free agent starting pitchers for 2010.
*Beckett has a club option for 2010 12 Million (no player voidable option).
*Webb has a club option for 2010 8.5 million (no player voidable option).
*C.Lee has a club option for 2010 8 million (no player voidable option)
All three pitchers above barring a major injury will have their option picked up if only for trade purposes. After those pitchers the field looks strong after Huddy LOL.
Brandon Backe HOU
Miguel Batista SEA
Josh Beckett * BOS
Erik Bedard SEA
Daniel Cabrera WAS
Bartolo Colon CWS
Jose Contreras CWS
Doug Davis ARZ
Justin Duchscherer OAK
Adam Eaton BAL
Kelvim Escobar LAA
Jon Garland * ARZ
Tom Glavine ATL
Mike Hampton HOU
Rich Harden CHC
Tim Hudson * ATL
Randy Johnson SF
John Lackey LAA
Cliff Lee * CLE
Braden Looper * MIL
Jason Marquis CHC
Kevin Millwood * TEX
Brett Myers PHI
Vicente Padilla * TEX
Carl Pavano CLE
Brad Penny BOS
Odalis Perez WAS
Andy Pettitte NYY
Joel Pineiro STL
Sidney Ponson KC
Jason Schmidt LAD
John Smoltz BOS
Jarrod Washburn SEA
Brandon Webb * ARZ
Todd Wellemeyer STL
Braveheart
May 26th, 2009
1:01 am
Chop Chop, we’ve all got all the answers, but do any of us have any questions?
Roman Gal
May 26th, 2009
1:02 am
Gotta keep working at it. nolie
Perseverance. Got it.
Bubdylan
May 26th, 2009
1:03 am
“we’ve all got all the answers, but do any of us have any questions?” -Braveheart
*raises hand*
Is Francoeur really a BUM?
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 26th, 2009
1:05 am
Bubdylan, I want to win. You got a problem with that?
nolie
May 26th, 2009
1:05 am
(Roman Gal)
Yup! we’re smart enough to sound even stupider than they can,no doubt in my mind
Chop Chop
May 26th, 2009
1:05 am
Steve,
Along with Johnny Carson, I did not know that.
bravos2249
May 26th, 2009
1:05 am
Why would anyone give Hudson more than 12 million for next year when’s he’s coming off injury?