3:17 pm May 25, 2009, by David O'Brien
May 26th, 20091:32 am
Nighty night ladies
Aww, Coach. You’re so sweet! You have a good night, too! I’ll call you later about some film I acquired recently…
May 26th, 20091:34 am
I don’t know, but The Pimpettes might work as a band name.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
One more time for the retarded genius at 1:22 a.m.
Greg Norton in 2008. .278 off the bench with 3 HR’s and 19 RBI. Did his job.
Greg Norton in 2009. .115 off the bench with 0 HR’s and 3 RBI. NOT DOING HIS JOB.
Why is this so hard for you to grasp? O right, I forget. Your a knuckle dragging neanderthal. Or should I just call you by your previous name ” Captain Grinch “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA” !!!!!!
May 26th, 20091:36 am
I remember when Coach called me a *** damned liar. I also remember when he called me a piece of poopy white trash. I guess DOB (or someone) went back and cleaned that up. I found it amusing to see that before Memorial Day ended. After all, I posted earlier that I did a little stint in the Army.
I kinda wish he had seen that and said, “**** you for your service.”
That would have had me dying of laughter.
Yep…just exactly like a crazy person.
Coach- I wish we had a pitcher to offer the A’s that they would want that we would be willing to give up. Vazquez, Medlin, and KK are the only starting pichers we would be willing to trade. Vazquez is a NL pitcher only worth 11.5M a year in the NL. Medlin is unproven which is why I think Wren brought him up rolling the dice hoping he would have 4-6 weeks of great statistics combined with his AAA stats. That being said he could turn it around and we could use him to get a outfielder aka Dye, Matt H. Its a long shot all we have in the player department on the MLB level is a whole bunch of Mums no Dom to be had.
May 26th, 20091:38 am
Roman Gal – not a pimpett a wife.LOL
May 26th, 20091:39 am
I agree about Hudson. I really think he wants to stay a Brave. Funny how Tex never said anything about wanting to stay a Brave while he actually was a Brave. I really hope Huddy stays a Brave, though. I mean, assuming he can pitch, I’d like to think that he’ll stay whether the Braves exercise his option or not.
Well, I wouldn’t know much about either of those.
May 26th, 20091:40 am
Coach almost made it out the door with some scrap of self control. Almost.
May 26th, 20091:46 am
Steve from OH: Dude, you had quite a prolific run of rousing, entertaining posts tonight while I was out feeding my face. Glad I skipped dessert, or else I might be losing it right now from laughing. Well done.
By the way, someone said Cox had his knees replaced a second time. Point of fact, he did not. He merely had a couple of pieces of the hardware in his artificial knees replaced this winter. Quite a bit of difference than having total knee replacement.
Not that his knees have a bit to do with whether he is or isn’t doing a good managing. Because they have zero to do with it. He’s been on the field enough times to get ejected at least five or six times this year, just hasn’t said the magic word or pushed it long enough for it to happen.
That might be mellowing or whatever, but I don’t see where it has anything to do with his knees.
Funny that he gets ripped by some here for arguing and getting, and gets ripped for not arguing and getting ejected by others.
May 26th, 20091:48 am
Five dollars says Coach broke at least one finger typing that emphatic “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA”
May 26th, 20091:51 am
Oh, and how unbelievable was the Tampa Bay-Cleveland game? Rays blow a 10-run lead and lose 11-10. Fausto Carmona went all Edinson Volquez on us and forgot how to throw a strike. (Rays took 20 consecutive pitches against him at one point. Yes, 20).
May 26th, 20091:52 am
You ever been to the fillmore? Was there in 2007 flew out from Tampa to see the braves & (the BB roid show) and got to check out the Pumpkins at the fillmore. A very intimate venue. Had the best poster collection from prior shows I have ever seen.
May 26th, 20091:56 am
Last time I was in Frisco I stayed at the Marriott at the end of Market St. Top floor has a revolving restaurant, way over priced but a great view. Just wondering if you have ever had a chance to go there.
Also gotta say that one of the best seafood meals I ever had was across the bridge in Sausalito at a restaurant called Scomas. Absolutely the best. To this day I still rave about that place and it’s been about 10 yrs since I was there. Have you ever tried it??
May 26th, 20091:57 am
Hey Bubdylan — I got 5 bucks that says Coach cut-and-pasted his haha’s.
By the way, someone said Cox had his knees replaced a second time. Point of fact, he did not.
That would’ve been Coach.
May 26th, 20091:58 am
Sausalito is one of the coolest places in the country. It can be foggy as all heck in SF and sausalio is blue sky. GREAT WINE AND MOM AND POP SHOPS
May 26th, 20092:04 am
a643dp: Yes, been to a few great shows at the Fillmore, which is a terrific venue, especially since they renovated it in the ’90s. I saw Matthew Sweet there in the late ’90s, and saw Kings of Leon with Secret Machines about 4-5 years ago. The KOL/Secret Machines show was outstanding.
Best show I’ve seen in S.F., though, was The Verve at Bill Graham Theatre. They were one of the hottest bands in the world at the time, with “Bittersweet Symphony” at the top of the alt-rock charts, etc.
May 26th, 20092:06 am
Didn’t David Price start that Rays game?
May 26th, 20092:09 am
Caveman, the original Scomas is at Fishermen’s Wharf in S.F., the one in Sausalito followed. Yes, eaten at the original, and it’s outstanding, but overpriced and too crowded. Very good food, though.
May 26th, 20092:10 am
vegas line has Giants (lincecum) -165 ML +132 -1.5
May 26th, 20092:13 am
Yes, eaten at the original, and it’s outstanding, but overpriced and too crowded (DOB)
nobody goes there anymore…it’s too crowded.
Now we are defending Bobby Cox. O my. For funny.
I will cut and paste this little tidbit and then offer up a scouting report that I know Frank Wren hasn’t seen.
With Matt Holliday’s woes at the plate, scouts say the A’s can’t expect to get as much as they might’ve hoped. “He’s so easy to pitch to right now it’s unbelievable,” one of Knobler’s sources said.
Well guess what? This would be true considering that Holliday HAD NO PROTECTION behind him. It ain’t fact anymore ladies and germs. Bob Geren ( A’s manager) mixed it up and put Jason Giambi fifth in his batting order behind Matt Holliday starting May 16th.
Presto, Matt Holliday has hit .379 BA, .500 OBP, .586 SLG, 1.086 OPS ever since.
May 26th, 20092:14 am
I can answer my own question. (Ah, the power of the internet…)
Yes. Yes, he did.
May 26th, 20092:16 am
The vegas line seems to say there is hope. Usually a Former CY winner or top 5 pitcher is -200 or higher.
May 26th, 20092:23 am
Not that Coach needs me to stick up for him (and I’m certainly not saying this has ANYTHING to do with Bobby’s managing), but the following is a quote from a foxsports story:
“”Had both knees replaced (for a second time) last winter,” said Cox. “I’m ready to go another 15 years.”"
Here’s the link:
May 26th, 20092:24 am
For the record, that article was posted on foxsports.com on May 21st.
May 26th, 20092:25 am
And right on cue — COACH admits to cutting-and-pasting !!! hahahahahahah
I’m sorry, go under Atlanta Baseball Talk !
May 26th, 20092:27 am
Have no fear. What Frank Wren can’t see, the Nightwatchman in the Dakotas sees.
May 26th, 20092:28 am
Also want to add, that in all of my haste to give Cox his due credit, one of the GREATEST things about him, is that he does get ejected to save his players from having to do so.
I’ve never had a problem with that. It’s also why he’s always chirping at the umps from his perch in the dugout. So his pitcher and catcher don’t have to do it (or a batter that feels he’s been “wronged” by the homeplate ump).
Again. That is VERY MUCH part of the job description of a manager, IMO. And based on him having the “record” for ejections, I’d say he’s done that better than any manager in history.
May 26th, 20092:34 am
Hey N8 — now that is one of the reason’s I will give you a little respect on here. I don’t usually agree with everything you post, but it is usually backed with your own facts and actual occurrences. And to give Cox credit for that, straight up and with no hesitation, makes your positions on here more credible and worth reading. Not that my opinion matters that much just wanted to share that.
May 26th, 20092:37 am
Cox’s recovery time was a lot quicker than the first surgery, which would indicate it was not a complete replacement. But hey , if it’s on the Internet it’s must be true, right??
May 26th, 20092:43 am
But hey , if it’s on the Internet it’s must be true, right? *(CC)
but of course !
May 26th, 20092:44 am
Caveman, thanks. I just call it like I see it, and like to argue/discuss my point. I don’t mind giving props where I think it’s due, or ripping somebody when I fee it’s warranted. Doesn’t mean I’m right. But after all, it is America, right?
As for “…if it’s on the internet it must be true…”???
I don’t know about that. Don’t even really know who the Tracy person is that wrote the article. But since it had the sentence in quotationes, and included the “Cox said”, I did assume that Bobby actually said that. DOB feel free to chime in on the use of quotations by somebody writing for a site like foxsports.com, if you’d like.
So, like I said. I don’t always believe what I read. But if it’s Braves related and has apparent quotes from Braves players/coaches, I’m gonna post it up here.
Now if it would have been from “Billy Bob’s Braves Blog”, I probably wouldn’t have referenced it. But anything from the “big 3″ sports sites (ESPN.com, si.com or foxsports.com), I have to assume it’s credible. If not, we’re all in trouble. LOL!
May 26th, 20092:58 am
I’m about off to watch some Bourne Identity (bought the 3-pack yesterday and have only seen all of them once).
Just want to close out the night by saying I’m not sure if the Braves are gonna make the playoffs this year. Not sure they won’t. It’s truely wide open at this point. They’ve really been playing better baseball lately, and if we could ever get Chipper and McCann in the lineup for a month at a crack (Tops on my list in the off-season “needs”), and the way KK has come around to go with Lowe, Vazquez (despite tonight’s hic-up), and JJJ, this team just might be capable of going on a run.
Still think we need a RH bat in the OF. Perhaps Holliday is that guy? I don’t know. Don’t want to give up the farm for him, that much I know.
In my opinion, based on recent results, Soriano should be the closer. Other than Jeff Bennett’s “melt-down” a while ago, he hasn’t been that bad.
Still think KJ can be a good hitter in this league (just don’t like him in the leadoff spot – would prefer Escobar there if it had to be between the two of them). Don’t really expect much from Francoeur at this point (nothing new there). Think that Kotchman being the doubles machine that he is, along with his defense is PERFECT for this team and perfect for the 2-hole in the lineup.
Not sure what to expect from Glavine, but have enough respect for what he’s done in the past to find out. No harm there, imo. Especially based on what we’ve seen from Jo-Jo. Think Medlen deserves another shot (or two), but if either Glavine or Medlen stumbles, Wren should not hesitate to call up Hanson.
Think Schafer will be just fine, so long as the rest of the lineup does their job (especially the way the pitching has come aroung – need that glove in CF).
Also think that whatever happens as far as the pennant race goes, Wren has some chips to either improve this team for a stretch run (withouth selling the farm), and certainly has enough chips (Vazquez, KK and maybe even Francoeur), to improve the club for 2010 if he so desires.
So, all in all, 2009 should be a success. Either in making a run, or paving the way for the next wave of possible stars to show what they can do. Just want to see good, hard baseball out of the guys, along with Bobby putting them in the best position to succeed. It’s the sloppy, can’t field, can’t run the bases, swing for the fenses, bullpen guys “can’t throw strikes”, nonsense that drives me wild. Whether it’s rookies or veterans, I have no interest in watching (listening to) that kind of baseball.
I already did that throughout the 80’s.
May 26th, 20093:03 am
Another 0-for-4 later tonight against Lincecum and Schafer officially lands on the Mendoza line.
Chance the Manager’s dilemma for tonight’s game: Between Francouer, Diaz & Schafer, he has to start at least 2 of ‘em. Not much of a choice.
Maybe the team should call up the rocket scientist and see if has more of a clue at the plate than our current starters in RF & CF. They are failing MLB Hitting 101 pretty miserably. That may be a bit harsh. Francouer probably deserves a D.
If you’re still around N8, thanks for the kind words earlier. You may be the only person who actually wades through my usually verbose posts. And understands them.
May 26th, 20093:09 am
N8, Tracy is a Hall of Famer — literally, he’s in the Hall of Fame, as a winner of the Spinks Award given annually to a writer.
That said, if you want to take literally what Bobby says about his knees and about every other medical issue he discusses, you’ll be scratching your head going, “Is that possible?” In other words, he doesn’t always mean literally what he says in some such cases.
I’m not going to get into a big argument over this, because it’s silly. I’ll just give you the note that I wrote after Bobby told several of us writers at Camp Roger, the camp formerly known as Camp Leo, in first week of February:
By DAVID O’BRIEN
Bobby Cox walked without pain Friday morning on recently refurbished artificial knees. But the Braves manager was more excited talking another surgically repaired and fully recovered member of the organization, closer Mike Gonzalez.
After missing more than 12 months recovering from ligament-transplant elbow surgery, Gonzalez rejoined the team in June. He pitched in 36 games, converted 14 of 16 saves, and had 44 strikeouts in 33-2/3 innings, but had some typical inconsistency pitchers face after surgery.
“You can only imagine what it’s going to be like after a full offseason of rest,” Cox said of the left-hander, one of six pitchers who participated in the first day of the Braves’ voluntary early pitching camp Friday at Turner Field. “He’s going to be dominant this year.”
Top prospect Tommy Hanson was at camp along with Tim Hudson, who’ll miss most of the 2009 season after elbow surgery; relievers Blaine Boyer and Gonzalez; newcomers Stephen Marek and lefty Eric O’Flaherty; and Anthony Lerew.
Reserve Clint Sammons was the lone catcher on Day 1 of the camp, run by pitching coach Roger McDowell. Seated behind netting around the indoor pitching mounds was Cox, who had more scars but less discomfort after worn pieces of his artificial knees were replaced in October.
“I got new parts,” the 67-year-old manager said, smiling.
NOW, N8, let me ask you: Cox was at the Winter Meetings in Vegas in the first week of December, walking. Do you think a 67-year-old man had full-on, double-knee replacement at some point in October, then walked all over the Bellagio in Vegas during the Winter Meetings, which would have been no more than, oh, six weeks later?
Here’s something from the Univ. of Washington Orthopaedics & Sports Medicine site on initial double-knee replacement surgery:
Same-day double knee replacement
Replacing both knees at the same time.
This is an excellent question, and like many good questions, the answer is somewhat complicated. It is almost always technically possible to replace both knees at once. However, one has to ask: what would be gained or given up by doing this? As of now, there have been a handful of scientific studies that have asked that very question. One of those studies concluded that it is no problem to go ahead and replace both knees at the same time, but most of them came up with a slightly different response: the overall time to full recovery is shortened by doing knees at the same time, but you take some increased risk to gain this advantage. Here’s the summary, as I interpret it:
The benefit of same-day both-knee surgery: The time to full recovery is shorter. If that does not seem intuitive, think about it this way: If you figure it will take between 2-3 months to really start to feel right after a knee replacement, and you do that twice, that’s 4-6 months of total recovery time. If you do them both the same day, you go through the experience once, and the whole thing is behind you in 2-3 months.
The disadvantage of same-day both-knee surgery: The surgical risk appears to be increased. The types of complications that were more common in patients having the knees done together included:
temporary disorientation after surgery,
the need for blood transfusions, and
severe cardiac complications (which can be fatal).
If the complication rates were doubled in same-day both-knee surgery, we’d call that a tie, since you’d have to have the operation twice if you did it on separate surgical dates. However, the complication rates for all the complications listed above are more than double with same-day both-knee surgery. The absolute magnitude of the risk of heart attack is still not huge, but the difference was noticeable; the risk of needing a blood transfusion went up considerably, though. To give you an idea, I very rarely need to give patients blood after a single knee surgery, but it is not at all uncommon if we do both at once. Finally, the overall length of hospital stay may be a bit longer with same-day both-knee surgery.
So, in view of this, why would anyone want to do them both at once? My observation is there are two sets of feelings on the part of patients about this. Some people are risk-averse, and want to minimize the risk as completely as possible; clearly, they would want to do one knee at a time.
Other people are what I call therapy-averse (or pain-averse), meaning they want to minimize the overall length of time they are either in physical therapy (perhaps for work reasons) and the overall length of time they are uncomfortable from the surgery. Provided they don’t mind the increase in risk, these are good candidates for same-day both-knee surgery.
AND HERE’s SOMETHING from the website MEDICALNEWSTODAY, about the complications associated with a second joint-replacement surgery on same joint. Read this and then tell me if you think he had double-knee replacement — for the second time — at some point in Ocober and then went to the winter meetings in Vegas, without a wheelchair or walker:
Joint Replacement The Second Time Around
Americans are getting more new hip and knee implants than ever before nearly a half-million a year. This boom in joint replacement has made the procedure somewhat routine and widely available. But when it comes time to have that initial implant replaced, due to wear or failure, the procedure is anything but routine, according to an article in the March issue of Cleveland Clinic Arthritis Advisor.
“Revision surgery is a far longer and more complex procedure than initial surgery,” says Kenneth Marks, M.D., an orthopaedic surgeon at Cleveland Clinic. “It requires more time and expertise to remove the old implant and do a customized repair and realignment of the existing bone to ensure that the new implant will be held firmly in place.”
Though the challenge of revision surgery is higher, the demand is climbing. More and more patients who got their first new hip or knee at age 55 or 60 are outliving the useful life of their implants.
Advanced age is becoming less of an impediment. Even among people 80 and older, the benefits of joint revision surgery pain elimination, increased mobility, greater range of motion can outweigh the risks, as long as you’re healthy enough to undergo such surgery in the first place.
Though implants may need to be replaced for a variety of reasons, the most common one is loosening. Loosening starts with the tiny particles that eventually wear off the plastic liner or insert within the hip or knee. As some of these particles slowly find their way to where implant meets bone, they get absorbed by cells (macrophages) capable of triggering bone reabsorption (osteolysis). Over time, this dissolving away of bone leads to implant loosening and pain.
Implant designers have slowed the creation of such particles by using harder, cross-linked plastics, and have nearly eliminated them altogether with newer ceramic-on-ceramic and metal-on-metal designs. The result has been increased implant longevity, meaning implants can now be done earlier to meet the longer lifespan of people who get them.
Other less-common reasons revision surgery may be needed include inadequate bone ingrowth, infection, dislocation, and fracture. When hip implants are inserted without cement, they depend on the growth of bone into the porous surface of the implant over time to ensure stability. Should this process not be fully achieved due to poor bone metabolism, the implant can more easily loosen later.
Infections can also be a cause of hip or knee implant removal, either early on, due to bacteria getting into the incision site, or years later, should blood-borne germs reach the implant and prove resistant to antibiotic therapy. Falls leading to fracture, or dislocation can also necessitate removal and replacement of the implant.
Follow the pain
Increasing pain near the implant, or greater difficulty in placing weight on it are early indications that revision surgery may be needed.
“The location of your pain tells us which part of your implant may be loose,” says Dr. Marks. “If it’s more of a groin pain, then the acetabular side is likely the problem. If it’s more of a thigh pain, then the loosening is typically on the femoral side.”
With knee implants, pain just below the knee suggests that the metal implant in the tibia may be loose, but pain that is felt throughout the knee may indicate infection.
Scans show the way
Whatever clues your pain provides need to be confirmed with an X-ray scan. “We can see if there is poor ingrowth on a hip implant, or if the plastic insert in your knee is worn,” says Dr. Marks.
If an X-ray suggests serious bone erosion, such that what remains may not be enough to provide sufficient contact between the bone and new implant, a computed tomography (CT) scan will be done to get a more precise view of the erosion. This will help the surgeon determine what needs to be done to repair the damage before proper alignment of a new implant is possible.
Out with the implant
A variety of factors make hip or knee revision surgery a much more lengthy, complex procedure than the initial surgery. “It’s not unusual for these surgeries to last five to eight hours or more,” says Dr. Marks.
Removing the old implant is a problem not faced the first time around. Not only must the previous device be taken out, but any cement that remains inside the bones must be cleaned out, as well. In hip revisions, the upper shaft of the femur that surrounds the old implant will often be cut away in two or three long sections (osteotomy) to enable implant removal and cleaning of the femoral canal. These pieces later will be reassembled and wired together around the stem of the new implant.
In with bone grafts
The most customized part of a hip or knee revision is the strategy used for restoring the damaged joint surfaces. “There is no one typical way to do this,” says Dr. Marks. “It varies with the degree and location of erosion, and the surgeon’s experience.”
At a minimum, there needs to be at least 50 percent surface contact between bone and the implant for a lasting, secure grip to be possible. Any less and the pits, holes, and other cavities need to be repaired using bone grafts, usually a thick paste of bone chips (morselized bone) made by grinding up cadaver bones.
In a hip revision, bone paste may be used to strengthen the pelvic socket or repair erosion along the inner canal of the femoral shaft. And if the erosion is severe, the socket may need to be rebuilt and reinforced using wire mesh or a titanium ring, in order to regain more normal biomechanics.
In a knee revision, if the end of the femur is weak, even after trimming away damaged bone, the central canal will need to be partially filled with morselized bone. In some cases, metal wedges may be required to better secure the attachment of the new femoral component.
The many factors that complicate revision surgery less healthy bone, an older patient, greater infection risk, and a customized array of bone, implant, grafts, and support structures mean that it’s easier for at least one of these things to go wrong over time.
“Hip and knee revisions typically last about eight to 10 years, compared to the 20 or more years you can expect with a first-time implant,” says Dr. Marks.
Though still a serious operation, joint revision is not as fraught with risk as it used to be. “We used to discourage revisions due to obesity, advanced age, and other complications,” says Dr. Marks. “But as we’ve gained experience in limiting the risks, we’ve become more permissive. As long as you’re healthy enough to undergo major surgery, you’re healthy enough to have a revision.”
WHAT YOU CAN DO
Don’t overdo it. Excessive and repetitive overloading of your hip or knee implant can lead to premature loosening.
Let the pain guide you. Increasing pain in the area of your implant is the first indication you may need revision surgery.
Seek a specialist. The complications of revision surgery mean that it’s best to seek out a surgeon who does a large number of revisions.
Don’t give up on rehab. Though rehab is similar the second time around, it takes longer to regain muscle strength and range of motion due to additional scarring.
May 26th, 20093:18 am
WOW! DOB, I realize you didn’t type all of that. But you just “out-N8′d” me on longest post of the year. Well done.
Thanks for the info on Tracy. Hadn’t really ever noticed his name on any foxsports stuff, but I’m always looking for Rosenthal’s stuff, and often don’t bother looking at who wrote the articles. But like I said, thanks for the info.
I’m sure I read your notbook post when it was posted the first time. So again, I appreciate it. I’m not looking to argue it either (an no – wouldn’t expect anybody to be walking around after knee replacement surgery – especially a 67 year old on his second one), but didn’t think the Coach bashers should bash him on something that he didn’t make up (just remarked on an actual story – that obviously was written by somebody with credibility).
Don’t mind people bashing on Coach, myself or other bloggers when it’s due or called for. Just couldn’t let that remark go. Not sure why.
I’ll assume that Bay Area Steve didn’t have a DOB/Whitesnake sign anywhere in the stands? LOL!
Thanks for the response. For real, I’m gonna go watch Borne Identity now.
May 26th, 20093:20 am
“If you’re still around N8, thanks for the kind words earlier. You may be the only person who actually wades through my usually verbose posts. And understands them.” Mr. Baseball
You’re welcome. It was a great post. As far as wading through your posts? I wade through them all. LOL! But why wouldn’t I? Nothing better to do.
May 26th, 20093:24 am
And understands them. (MrBaseball)
a little pomposity anybody? I got news for you dude, your posts ain’t ever all that hard to understand, just to agree with frequenty
May 26th, 20093:32 am
Yo N8 — as far as COACH actually posting something of merit, well we got a saying for that –
“The sun shines on a dog’s a$$ every now and then”
Right now I’m wondering how long some of the Bravos are sleeping tonight. I now they had the cross country flight to an afternoon game, that had to be a little taxing. Bet they all sleep in a little in the morning. I know I will.
May 26th, 20093:34 am
Yo DOB — I see Foxsports.com moved the Braves up in the Power Rankings. Said that the pitching is starting to live up to the hype.
Are there any other national news sites giving the Braves some increased respect??
I figure you would know.
May 26th, 20094:05 am
Cox’s recovery time was a lot quicker than the first surgery, which would indicate it was not a complete replacement. But hey , if it’s on the Internet it’s must be true, right??
Naah, anything David O’ Brien says is gospel. He can do no wrong.
May 26th, 20094:08 am
Captain Caveman wrote: And right on cue — COACH admits to cutting-and-pasting !!! hahahahahahah
Then David O’Brien goes off and does the same thing with a whole damn book. HMMMMMM.
Are these two joined at the hip or is it actually the same person? Inquiring minds want to know.
May 26th, 20095:09 am
DOB- Thanks for your kind words on the military. God Bless all veterans, past and present.
May 26th, 20096:49 am
Just to throw some more negativity out there – seems to be a bit these days…..
I remember the Braves thinking about Raul Ibanez during the offseason……. HMMMM……….
May 26th, 20097:46 am
Hey DAVID O’BRIEN:
How’s my man AARON ROWAND doing with the GIANTS? I mean, how does he look out there in CF?
May 26th, 20097:55 am
Ibanez wouldn’t have all of those roundtrippers in our suddenly cavernous stadium.
May 26th, 20098:10 am
We have backed ourselves in a corner in the outfield fiasco. A kid in CF who is definitely not ready. If Francouer was rushed poor Jordan has been even more so. JF is lost and needs to get his head together. Both players need to work their problems out in Gwinnett. Unfortunately, because of poor front office work we have no options. LF is barely adequate but may be the highlight of our anemic outfield. Management needs to make some decisions about personnel including coaches and players.
May 26th, 20098:29 am
Two off-seasons ago I was touting the prowess of AARON ROWAND for a three year rental in CF until SCHAFER was ready, but no-o-o didn’t have the money. No-o-o, ROWAND won’t be playing in the PHILLIES band-box anymore. No-o-o, SCHAFER’s gonna’ be ready WAY-Y-Y before that time period’s up. Well, this is the mid-point in that potential contract. How’s our man SCHAFER working out?
May 26th, 20098:56 am
Should be an interesting day in San Fran with the prop 8 ruling coming today.
May 26th, 20099:03 am
On Bradley’s blog yesterday, I said the Bravos need to stick with Schafer because Infante is out. Otherwise, if Infante was healthy, management should send him to Gwinnett. Perhaps they need to send him anyway. Four strikeouts, once with the bases loaded? This has got to shoot Schafer’s confidence down. And, no small point, he’s not helping the team much, except on defense.
Granted, Carlye only makes appearances when Cox thinks a game is lost, but even then…
Trade Frenchy? For what? Dayton Moore (KC) would take him, but for what in return?
May 26th, 20099:05 am
Been way too long since we were in SF…greatest city in the nation…bar none, although I do like Seattle too. Lost track of all the great places to eat – most of ‘em small and tucked away in neighborhoods. Momma’s (as least I think that’s the name) in North Beach is a small, breakfast joint where folks stand in line to get in…The Buena Vista near Fisherman’s Wharf is a bit touristy, but if you have enough Irish Coffees pretty soon you think you’re a native…Lefty O’Doul’s (again I think that’s the name, and one of Skip Carey’s favorites) near Union Square is a wonderful old bar and restaurant – loved it – they keep it dark so you won’t see the dirt and dust…and spent a marvelous day (so I’m told) at a hole-in-the-wall sports bar at California and Hyde. It opened at 9 AM – just when the Georgia- Ga Tech game was kicking off back at Grant Field, son-in-law and I crawled back up the hill to their apartment about eight o’clock that night – Holy Moly – of course Georgia won (don’t even get started on that, so-called, pass-interference call).
May 26th, 20099:10 am
Have you heard any news on how Omar’s sugery went? I hope he is doing ok.
(sorry if you have already posted on this and I missed it.) Thanks, Bruce
May 26th, 20099:17 am
I propose we start using quotes around TP’s title.
May 26th, 20099:33 am
This whole road trip is being monitored very closely by the Society for American Baseball Research. They believe this is the most accurate re-enactment of the dead ball era ever produced.
May 26th, 20099:37 am
The Royals might be the top suitor for Jeff Francoeur if the Braves shop him, but not everyone in Kansas City’s front office is keen on him. The Red Sox are known to have an eye on Francoeur.——— KEN ROSENTHAL
May 26th, 20099:38 am
Then we would also have to use them for “right fielder”.
May 26th, 20099:42 am
I make a face at the mention of Russell Martin, too. And I got a load outta him telling McCann, “I’m going in after Soto.” Oh, OK, Mr. Martin. Gotcha. I mean, who died and put him in charge?
But yeah–just give me a sit-down with Clint Hurdle, and I’ll get my money’s worth. 10 freaking innings for one guy? Uh-huh…that’s fair. And so you put BMac in at defense before you let him hit? Almost everybody knows McCann’s hitting is his strong point…golly…
I agree about Charlie Manuel–if McCann’s not a starter this year, Charlie will give him a chance to hit. Charlie’s like Ryan Howard–he knows that McCann has hit good against the Fillies. He knows what kind of a hitter McCann is.
If we would have gone to a Braves/Dodgers game last year, I’m pretty sure I would have booed Martin at least once. And if we go to one this year, I think I’ll still boo him when he’s announced.
May 26th, 20099:44 am
Ken Rosenthal has a new article on FoxSports. Here is a little bit about the Braves:
“If the Braves explore trading right fielder Jeff Francoeur, the Royals likely would be the team with the most interest. Royals GM Dayton Moore was the Braves’ farm director when Francoeur rose through the minors. However, others in the organization are not high on Francoeur, one source said.”
“The Red Sox have taken two looks at Francoeur, according to another source. Francoeur’s poor plate discipline would make him a questionable fit in Boston, but perhaps the Sox see an opportunity to buy low, if they are indeed interested.”
“The Braves will need to find a power hitter in left even if they keep Francoeur, so trading him would effectively create two holes. Better they give Francoeur every opportunity to straighten out. He was 8-for-17 in his last five games before going 0-for-4 Monday.”
May 26th, 20099:45 am
What about a trade involving 3 teams………. JF has to go………..I know the guy is going to be a superstar down the line, but right now, he is hurting the team. The plan was for this baby braves to evolve at the same time……….Mc, Yunel, KJ, JF, and some of the pitchers………..JF, as all those pitchers (boyer, kyle, james, etc) has not evolve as quick as braves wanted him too, and he is making it hard for us too win………. I put the heat on JF last year, and I have supported him this season, but the truth is, he is hurting the team. I would hate to see him go, but right now he is leaving the braves no options.
May 26th, 20099:47 am
How are you today? Whats your opinion on JF departure, if he leaves that it?
May 26th, 20099:51 am
Hi. Fine, how ’bout you?
Hu…Francoeur’s departure wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all. Kinda gets old watching a guy struggle that bad. Maybe he needs a change of scenery.
I gotta run for a couple hours. Later!
May 26th, 20099:52 am
Buster Olney also wrote about Francoeur in his blog:
Trade rumors are swirling around Jeff Francoeur, writes Mark Bradley. Scouts who have seen the Braves this year think that in the end, the same problem continues to plague Francoeur — he simply swings at too many pitches out of the strike zone. “He’s the easiest guy in the league to pitch to,” said one longtime talent evaluator, “because you know he’s going to swing.”
May 26th, 20099:56 am
He might not be the easiest guy to pitch to, but when facing the braves, and the game is on the line, you are glad he is the one coming to the plate. And when you have lost the plate as a pitcher, and JF is coming to bat, your 1st thought is………….the baseball gods love me.
May 26th, 20099:58 am
Coach-No, BubDylan doesn’t want us to win. He also hates us because we’re free.
the frankencoeur monster
May 26th, 200910:02 am
see ball hit ball
Dayton "Hungry Man" Moore
May 26th, 200910:04 am
Hey Braves! Gimme your leftovers.
May 26th, 200910:05 am
A dose of reality: In my opinion Matt Diaz has been the star of the outfield. Do you believe that Garrett Anderson makes that play in left field yesterday. Diaz actually hustled to make a catch.
May 26th, 200910:07 am
DOB — you are too much! (In a good way, natch.)
“I’m not going to get into a big argument over this, because it’s silly.”
Well, I guess 2,000+ words (50+ paragraphs, 90+ sentences, 10,000+ characters) ain’t THAT big — at least, not when you’re talking to N8.
Interpreting Mr. Booby
May 26th, 200910:08 am
O’Brien wrote: “…if you want to take literally what Bobby says … you’ll be scratching your head going, “Is that possible?” In other words, he doesn’t always mean literally what he says…”
Like when he orders a sacrifice bunt he really means hit-and-run.
May 26th, 200910:11 am
After a lovely Long Weekend and “i told you so” about the Jays Series sweep, let start The Rumors Mill: Did you do this Trades:
Kothman/Francoeur to Oakland for a Rental Matt Holiday……Them Cody Johnson,Clit Sammons & Kris Medlen to Houston for Lance Berkman.
What you say….Make a Deal.
Mr. San Fran
May 26th, 200910:12 am
Anyone who refers to San Francisco as “Frisco” is a complete dork.
Get his plaque ready
May 26th, 200910:14 am
“In my opinion Matt Diaz has been the star of the outfield”
Yeah, the numbers he’s been putting up should guarantee him a slot in the hall of fame.
A regular Willie Mays, he is.
May 26th, 200910:17 am
God, please make this happen. I hope to one day wake up and turn on my laptop to see the headline at the ajc/sports be Jeff traded!
As far as his “hot streak”…read between the lines. 1 extra base hit and 2 RBI’s as someone already posted.
Where is the power gone?
At this point, I wouldn’t be objective to having Brandon Jones in RF, calling up Brian Barton and cutting lose Greg Norton, and getting a prospect for Jeff. This Braves team is NOT 1 player away from contending for the NL, so it won’t matter.
Go with the kids, like Brandon Jones and or Barton. See what they can do. Can’t be any worst than Jeff (from that position)
May 26th, 200910:18 am
Braves will not make another year rental for their young guys…………they learned the lesson……….Id like to think.
May 26th, 200910:20 am
The Padres winning streak got me thinking of when the last time the Braves even had a 5 or 6 game winning streak.
Thinking i would have to go back to at least 2007, to my surprise they had both in May of last year. Forgot how the season really fell apart from June on. Let’s hope the Braves can change that this year!
May 26th, 200910:23 am
coach10 stolen bases. Dead frigging last. Although I don’t think Holliday will help in this department.
actually, though holliday only has 2 SB this year, he stole 28 bases in 2008. 28. thats pretty impressive.
im all for going after holliday, but the braves need to think about a corner outfielder for a couple more years…
thats why i think brad hawpe is a really good option. his contract looks like this 2009: $5.5 mil 2010: $7.5 mil 2011: club option $10mil.
its perfect for the braves if the rockies will shop him.
May 26th, 200910:29 am
I’m just sitting here, reading the comments…….and thinking to myself how absolutely sad and pathetic it is to know that if the bases are loaded with 1 out and French and Shaff are coming up, that I can flip on the Met game to check the score because there is a ZERO percent chance that the Braves will be scoring any runs for the rest of that inning.
Folks, let’s stop bringing up Brandon Jones. He has no speed and almost no power. That would be ok if you could hit .330 every year at the big league level, nut we’ve seen no sign of that.
May 26th, 200910:31 am
What a waste of $ Wren put on GA. Not saying it was ignorant to sign him when he did, but even I thought Jeff was going to show us way more than he has so far. Glavine is another waste of dollars considering we’d get as much, if not more production from Morton/Medlen/Hanson… MONEY IS TIGHT PEOPLE! If Wren is really searching for a RH bat, it’s gonna have to be a cheap cheap cheap! No way we see a Holliday,C.Lee,Dye,Hawpe type covering our OF this year.
May 26th, 200910:32 am
“Folks, let’s stop bringing up Brandon Jones. He has no speed and almost no power. That would be ok if you could hit .330 every year at the big league level, nut we’ve seen no sign of that.”
Well, he’d be replacing Jeff Francoeur, who also, doesn’t have any speed or power. But Brandon Jones can take a pitch or two, so therefore he might be a better option than Frenchy.
May 26th, 200910:35 am
If the Braves are considering going after Holliday, they may as well save their money and ask Donte Bichette to come out of the booth. Holliday is nothing more than a colorado slugger. His “away” stats were ordinary at best when he was a Rockie and his stats this year are quite sub par.
May 26th, 200910:38 am
It isn’t like Hawpe makes 20 million dollars. I agree it’d be a stretch payroll wise to bring him in or we’d have to get the Rockies to eat some of his salary. But (and correct me if I’m wrong), I believe he only makes 5.5 Million this year.
May 26th, 200910:39 am
The the Red Sox really are interested in Francoeur (although I dont know why they would be) I’d be all for packaging French, Hanson and another top prospect for Jason Bay, on the condition he signs a contract before the deal is done.
If* the Red Sox***
May 26th, 200910:42 am
Making trades are easy if we know if the Braves take on salary. If not we trade prospects for players like Hawpe who are not too expensive. The other option is trade from strength ie Vazquez for a veteran hitter like Berkman.
Willy in Philly
May 26th, 200910:44 am
Jay Bay might be a bit of a stretch…….but if its true that he doesn’t want to stay in Boston after this season, I’d say it may actually be POSSIBLE. But we’d be giving up a ton for him, much like the deal for Tex, so yes – a long term contract before the deal is a must.
May 26th, 200910:48 am
Took a dayoff from the blog yesterday. May have already been discussed but I put a lot of the blame yesterday on BC. He stayed too long with Vazuez, 3 runs in the 5th, had his bullpen up and ready, then runs Vazuez back out there in the 6th which was OK since we scored 2 in the top of the 6th, but at the first sign of trouble JAvy should have been out of there. What was it? 2 straight singles and Cox doesn’t go get him after your team has fought back, that is unnacceptable. The bullpen was rested from great pitching performances over the weekend. I don’t get it. He let that game get away.
May 26th, 200910:49 am
We wouldn’t have to give up nearly as much for Bay that we did Tex. Tex is a switch hitter and a better all around player, AND his rental was for a year and a half.
That’s not to say that Bay’s not a great all-around player…Tex is just better.
Do people not realize we just traded FOR Vazquez this past offseason? He’s not getting traded anywhere. He’s been quite solid, too. He’s really only had 3 really rough innings that have jacked up his ERA.
May 26th, 200910:50 am
though holliday only has 2 SB this year DAP
That would tie him for the team lead, actually.
May 26th, 200910:52 am
JD- I don’t know if I’m sad or happy that your last comment made me laugh out loud. But remember, we’ll be dealing with the Red Sox if any Bay/Brave talk starts. They’re no idiots over there. They’ll ask for a boat load in return.
May 26th, 200910:53 am
DOB what is the likelihood of a 3 team trade involving Jake Peavy to a 3rd team (NL Central most likely) and the Braves aquiring a solid oufield bat while giving up Jeff Francouer Greg Norton and a Prospect such as Todd Redmond or would we have to piece together more of a package than this?
May 26th, 200910:55 am
Wow Francoeur thinks theres a lot of pressure in Atlanta? Yeah…sending him to Boston is the cure. He would get boo’ed loudly and frequently there and the media would eat him alive. Baseball is serious bidness in Boston.
KC, or a similar market, is a good fit for him.
I’m pretty sure there’s no truth to these rumors. I don’t really know if they’re rumors at all…possibly just something stupid started on the blog. Like when someone said we should go after Ryan Braun.
But why would the Red Sox want to trade Bay? Especially with Ortiz struggling so much. “Let’s see…we have a tight lead in the toughest division in the American League. Let’s trade our top hitter for some prospects. Drew and Papi will be able to hold down the fort.”
May 26th, 200910:56 am
Bruce, yes, we reported that Omar had what was termed (as usual) “successful” surgery to fix the fracture in his hand. Plate was inserted. No timetable given for return, though two months has been sort of the unofficial estimate given (by Cox the day before the surgery; said they had discussed a minimum of 6-8 weeks to be the expected time without Infante)….
Doc Holliday: Trade involving three teams in order to move Francoeur? Doubtful. For one, three-team trades occur in the NBA, but rarely in baseball, and not for a player of presumably such limited current appeal to other teams (given his contract and production).
May 26th, 200910:57 am
JD: Red Sox trade Jason Bay? No.
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