3:17 pm May 25, 2009, by David O'Brien
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 25th, 200911:52 pm
Gorkys Hernandez ain’t ready for the big leagues. but then again, neither is Jordan Schafer.
Those Andruw Jones minor league stats are remarkable.
May 25th, 200911:53 pm
NELSON CRUZ 2009- avg.293, 12HR, 33RBI, 23R, 8SB. 29 year old OF right handed ba (Cruz to Atl)
too lazy to look it up, what’s his numbers like away from Texas?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 200911:54 pm
TnBrian, doesn’t necessarily have to be no-name players or top prospects that casual fans don’t know about. Could be a big-name player quietly on the block, too. Never no. That’s why the industry folks are, well, the industry folks. What they deem to be the best player for the best price in the end, you can count on it (almighty payroll willing, of course).
May 25th, 200911:55 pm
897 OPS Home vs. 883 OPS away.
May 25th, 200911:56 pm
here are Cruz’s splits…not bad this year but his overall career numbers are nothing particularly specatcular
5 HR at home/7 HR on the road
May 25th, 200911:57 pm
Blanco went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts today, and he’s now batting .215 in Triple-A.
May 25th, 200911:59 pm
Gotta love that Carmelo is 3-16 from the floor and the Nuggets are still going to beat the [expletive deleted] lakers by double digits
May 26th, 200912:00 am
Coach (2010 or Bust)
No one can sit here and say a Frenchy/Morton/Jones deal would not bring something valuable in.Jones can play, we just have too many LHH.
May 26th, 200912:02 am
Schafer went 0-4 4 K’s and is batting .205 in MLB. I’m sure he’d be hitting around .235 if he was in Triple A too. Many players can throw a 80 mph fastball+, which he seems to keep missing. Notice I said 80+.
May 26th, 200912:03 am
I still Have My Thang for Nellie Cruz…
Its just too bad we didn’t get him last year at the deadline when I called for it…
Now he is untouchable now….
“Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda!”
A: I’m sick of Bobby Cox. The man can’t even do his job anymore due to his knee’s.
B: I’m tired of losing. p.s. can’t stand idiot losers in this blog who enjoy losing.
C. I would sell my right nut if it would guarantee a playoff spot.
D. Matt Holliday will be traded, write it down. It will suck for us if he ends up with the Mets.
E. Greg Norton is currently in possession of the compromising pictures of Bobby Cox.
F. Bobby Cox has Deja Vu. Can you see it? A.J in 07, Frenchy in 08 and Schafer in 09.
G. Our 2010 rotation: Tim Hudson, Jair Jurrjens, Derek Lowe, Tommy Hanson, Kenshin Kawakami.
I’ve got no problem giving credit to Coach on Cruz. He was relentless in pushing for him last fall/winter. Some of us questioned (as did the Braves and plenty of other teams that discussed him) whether to expect too much or give up too much for a guy that old with so little big-league experience, etc.
As it turns out, Cruz would’ve been a nice pickup for this team.
May 26th, 200912:06 am
Coach, a man needs both his nuts, just sayin.
No More Bobby
May 26th, 200912:09 am
So we sweep the Jays and lose to the Giants? A good manager has you prepared for the top teams and the ones easy to overlook.
Schafer struck out 4 times today, and the 3rd one, the one with the bases loaded, he swung at 3 balls. Pitches that weren’t close to the strike zone, against a guy that had already walked in a run. Dude is pressing badly. Needs a couple of days off [at least], but no one at this level can play CF. To be honest, he needs to go down a level, but who would be brought up? Can B. Jones play CF? Bad move to trade Josh Anderson before it was known if Schafer could hit at the ML level during anything except ST. Josh already has 9 SBs and is hitting at least 50-60 points higher than Jordan.
How much longer will Bud-Roe Carlyle be allowed to relieve and give up 3 run and grand slam homers? Has an ERA closer to 9 than 8. Time to say adios to the Budster.
Just shows how many holes the Braves have in their lineup when the bases are loaded and 3 batters can not even manage to get ONE run in. Francoeur is going back to last year when the bases are loaded. Either struck out or hit into a double play then. Mark Bradley and Mark Bowman [the Marks Brothers?] may be right in suggesting he and the Braves may be better off if he’s traded. The 6, 7, and 8 spots in the order weren’t as productive as the 9 spot today, and the 9 spot had the only extra base hit out of those spots. Pretty easy for the opposing pitcher when he has 4 spots [plus GA's spot] to go to for an out.
Sure the Braves have played good for the last 18 games, but if they don’t get some pop added in at least a couple of those spots, it’s gonna be a long year. Again.
May 26th, 200912:10 am
But when will Coach be right about the great Jeff Bennett?
May 26th, 200912:12 am
Selling a nut for a playoff spot is stupid.
Selling a nut for a World Series title? Maybe.
May 26th, 200912:17 am
Coach – Send me your right nut and I’ll guarantee a playoff spot for the Braves. Both nuts will get them a World Series win – Satan.MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
May 26th, 200912:20 am
Does one need knees to manage? A serious question. There have been a lot of feeble arguments as to why exactly Cox is ineffective, but knees? C’mon, man.
B: I’m tired of losing. p.s. can’t stand idiot losers in this blog who enjoy losing.
Seems to me like the most passionate blogs are those after a loss (even during a 12-5 or 7 or whatever stretch). Not buyin’ it. P.S. I don’t like losin’ either big guy.
Who would buy it?
Indeed he shall! Indeed it would! But would it not also suck if the Mets acquired a pitcher? Should we not also endeavor to acquire every move that Omar Minaya wishes to make?
Strange coming from the President of Norton’s Wild Norsemen, the Official Greg Norton fan club. Alas, though, it seems to be true so I’ll let it slide…
Tim Hudson is currently quite injured. Also, we have a fellow named Javier Vazquez who seems to be quite good on our staff. Now, I think your rotation is both dandy and quite feasible, and probably the best possible outcome, but let’s get Huddy healthy before we start carving it onto obelisks in Thebes, eh?
the man behind the curtain
May 26th, 200912:21 am
YOU BRAVES FANS ENTERTAIN ME WITH YOUR COMPLAINTS ABOUT YOUR CRAPPY TEAM!
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR MANAGER WHOSE TIME HAS PASSED.
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR PATHETIC RELIEF PITCHERS.
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR INCOMPETENT OUTFIELDERS. ESPECIALLY THE FRENCH ONE AND THE YOUNG ONE WHO WIFFS
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR CATCHER WHO CAN’T CATCH AND IS AFRAID TO TAG RUNNERS
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR TIRED OLD THIRD BASEMAN WHO IS PERPETUALLY HURT
YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR #4 AND #5 STARTERS WHO ARE IFFY AT BEST
WELCOME TO BASEBALL HELL!
YOUR TEAM SUCKS AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. AND IT WILL STAY THAT WAY….
May 26th, 200912:23 am
Thanks, O’Brien. But of course, I was opposed to Javier Vasquez. I think he has been worth the risk in spite of today’s performance.
Jeff Bennett is having a fine season out of the bullpen (2.25 ERA). He just needs to get his walk’s down. I still believe that he could be a decent fifth starter if given the chance.
Vasquez is gonna get traded. It has to happen. Atlanta is committed to Hudson, Jurrjens, Lowe and Hanson. Kawakami can’t be traded and for reasons that go way beyond his performance on the field.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
May 26th, 200912:26 am
Bud Selig: Man, I’d sell an ‘09 playoff spot for a grumpy blogger’s right nut. Hey… what have we here??
Boo, nicely done at 12:23
May 26th, 200912:30 am
Coach(2010 or bust) who will be paying the employee tax on Mr. Vazquez’s 11.5 million dollar portion of his 2010 contract?
I wish Whitesnake had written a song about inherited runners right now, because I would so post those lyrics. Oh, and if walks were so easily curable, we’d have a lot less failed pitching prospects, wouldn’t we?
May 26th, 200912:31 am
Steve, your hilarious. I’m demented, but what else is new?
More than a few blogger’s have noticed the absence of Bobby Cox when the opportunity to argue with the umps comes about. The man just had his knee’s replaced for the second time.
Greg Norton did his job last season. Did I say last season? His current.115 BA ain’t getting it done.
Tim Hudson has a brand new elbow. The man is an ACE, period. Healthy or injured. So yes, we have a rotation in 2010 that will be lights out. Write it down Steve. It’s Monday, May 25th 2009 and I’m all over it when I say this team is headed for the playoffs in 2010.
May 26th, 200912:35 am
It’s Monday, May 25th 2009 and I’m all over it when I say this team is headed for the playoffs in 2010. (COACH)
Can I take this prediction to the bank like your playoff prediction in 2008?
May 26th, 200912:36 am
DOB: Cool. I was starting to wonder if there was a press release I missed. Braves lost, but at least my trip is still in tact.
Not saying that Holliday ain’t a good player cause he is, but he’s not nearly as good away from Coors as he is at home, even though he improved the last two NL seasons. IMO he ain’t good enough AFC to pay what it will take to get him for a mere three month rental. I do not think he will go cheap, Billy knows he has a hot property .
If Rusty Staub can make it to the majors at the age of 19, why can’t Heyward? LOL
May 26th, 200912:39 am
Didn’t you say that about the 2009 Braves, too? And I’m not sure why Cox’s current lack of ejections makes him a bad manager, or worthy of canning and calling “unable to do his job.” His job isn’t to get ejected, it’s to manage games.
Huddy is an ace. He also isn’t healthy yet. I agree that your proposed rotation would be great. Patience, padawan, in time your dreams shall be realized!
I agreed with you on the Mad Norseman, fwiw.
Oh, and if you stopped saying “write it down” so much you wouldn’t have “blogger’s” calling you out so much on trivial matters such as Norton and Bennett…
May 26th, 200912:40 am
Erm, 2008 Braves, Alex….
May 26th, 200912:41 am
Coach(2010 or bust) Why do you think we will have Mr. Hudson in 2010.It is a club option. You probably think that the Braves will pick up the 12 million dollar option. Correct if he is healthy the Braves will pick up the 2010 12 million dollar option. One major thing that some people on this blog do not understand. Mr. Hudson has the power to void the club option. That is a huge issue if he comes back in early August and goes ie. 7-2 2.87. That would allow the buzz around the league that he is back and worthy of a 30M/3yr contact. So be careful of what you wish for a solid 2 month hudson might cost us a solid 7 month hudson. Mr. Wren if he is smart might start him in the pen until Sep. to slow his public viewing as far as health goes.
May 26th, 200912:44 am
I wouldn’t think Hudson would void a 12MM option coming off TJ surgery in this economy…
May 26th, 200912:45 am
You’re a numbers guy. What is the statistical likelihood that Coach will listen to your advice?
May 26th, 200912:46 am
Whoever, Cox, Wren, or a combination thereof:
Made the decision to go into the season without a viable plan for additional outfielders to replace a player who had never played above AA ball before (24) or a player who has melted down repeatedly in the past (7) should have their head squeezed and popped like a teenaged zit in a shop vice. Stupidest decision was letting Josh Anderson go for nothing. A leadoff hitter who has proven he can at least put the ball in play.
Um, Tim Hudson has already said that he want’s to stay with the Braves. His option is a moot point.
Braveheart, nobody could have predicted the total breakdown of the rotation last season. That team , if healthy would have made a run at the playoff’s.I also made the caveat of ” if they stay healthy” in my prediction but nobody remembers that part.
May 26th, 200912:48 am
Chop Chop, about the likelihood that we’d find a buyer for his testicle. I cannot, of course, even begin to think about quantifying that with statistical numbers…
May 26th, 200912:49 am
Um, Tim Hudson has already said that he want’s to stay with the Braves. His option is a moot point. -Coach
Tex wanted to stay here the rest of his career.
May 26th, 200912:51 am
It’s a team option on Hudson, Coach. His option isn’t a moot point. If he doesn’t pitch well upon his return, he’s gone. End of story. Print it. Take it to the bank.
May 26th, 200912:52 am
Vazquez ain’t getting traded. Good Lord.
May 26th, 200912:53 am
Nah, Coach, you not only told me that the Braves were so playoff good, that I should take it to the bank, but by the time I took it to the bank for you, the banks were going under, and begging for bailouts. So your infamous take it to the bank declaration was so wrong in so many ways…..
May 26th, 200912:55 am
I guess you should have gone to uga-brave for your financial advice, Braveheart. He has all the answers.
Francouer is a BUM.
May 26th, 200912:56 am
Coach, you’re like a glaze-eyed gambler in Vegas. Your Cruz-clamor was that big hit the house pays to keep you shoving your dough back in…
May 26th, 200912:57 am
So your infamous take it to the bank declaration was so wrong in so many ways (BH)
yeah doesn’t mean quite the same thing lately do it?
Really? This is news to us here on the blog, seeing as we’ve never seen anything like this before. Chop Chop, were you aware that Francoeur is a BUM?
May 26th, 20091:00 am
Um, Steve. The issue with Greg Norton isn’t trivial. The man isn’t doing his F-N job. He has one single responsibility, to pinch hit. He’s a waste of a roster spot.
Losing Omar Infante only magnifies the problem. We have lost our valuable utility man. Diory Hernandez can’t cover the same ground. I want Brian Barton on this team and it has nothing to do with his bat. The resident rocket scientist can play all three outfield spots, spot start in CF for Schafer, come in as a late inning defensive replacement, pinch hit, pinch run, lead off, steal a base or two, bat in front of the pitcher, carry the water cooler etc. etc. etc.
His team value is ten times that of Greg Norton and Barton certainly can’t hit any worse than .115. It’s a freaking no brainer. Wren needs to get off his ass and do his DAMN JOB.
Coach are you serious you believe everything you hear. How many times does a player stay for less money????? Few and far between, like Tim would say naw i think I might leave after this year. You dont know much about politics and sports agents do you. I would hate to see you negotiate with Furcal and his agent. These are the list of free agent starting pitchers for 2010.
*Beckett has a club option for 2010 12 Million (no player voidable option).
*Webb has a club option for 2010 8.5 million (no player voidable option).
*C.Lee has a club option for 2010 8 million (no player voidable option)
All three pitchers above barring a major injury will have their option picked up if only for trade purposes. After those pitchers the field looks strong after Huddy LOL.
Brandon Backe HOU
Miguel Batista SEA
Josh Beckett * BOS
Erik Bedard SEA
Daniel Cabrera WAS
Bartolo Colon CWS
Jose Contreras CWS
Doug Davis ARZ
Justin Duchscherer OAK
Adam Eaton BAL
Kelvim Escobar LAA
Jon Garland * ARZ
Tom Glavine ATL
Mike Hampton HOU
Rich Harden CHC
Tim Hudson * ATL
Randy Johnson SF
John Lackey LAA
Cliff Lee * CLE
Braden Looper * MIL
Jason Marquis CHC
Kevin Millwood * TEX
Brett Myers PHI
Vicente Padilla * TEX
Carl Pavano CLE
Brad Penny BOS
Odalis Perez WAS
Andy Pettitte NYY
Joel Pineiro STL
Sidney Ponson KC
Jason Schmidt LAD
John Smoltz BOS
Jarrod Washburn SEA
Brandon Webb * ARZ
Todd Wellemeyer STL
May 26th, 20091:01 am
Chop Chop, we’ve all got all the answers, but do any of us have any questions?
May 26th, 20091:02 am
Gotta keep working at it. nolie
Perseverance. Got it.
May 26th, 20091:03 am
“we’ve all got all the answers, but do any of us have any questions?” -Braveheart
Is Francoeur really a BUM?
May 26th, 20091:05 am
Bubdylan, I want to win. You got a problem with that?
Yup! we’re smart enough to sound even stupider than they can,no doubt in my mind
Along with Johnny Carson, I did not know that.
Why would anyone give Hudson more than 12 million for next year when’s he’s coming off injury?
May 26th, 20091:06 am
Coach, can we just skip to you cussing me out? I’m tired.
May 26th, 20091:10 am
Whoa! Put the kids to bed, it’s fight night on the blog… Steve from OH
Wait! Isn’t every night fight night?
From all MLBs Official Female Baseballs
We hate Frenchy and love Jordan Schafer. We all have a crush on Mr. McCann and his nice soft hands.When frenchy hits we never get to see and feel brians hands. When Jordan hits we meet his hot sweaty palms at leat three times an AB.
“Is Francoeur really a BUM?”
[Glances over, wide-eyed and innocent, at Professor Coach, hanging on the momentous words sure to emanate from his lips...]
Bubdylan, depends on your definition of bum. When I was in fifth grade, we had these three bums that always stood outside our school begging for change. One day, we yelled out the window at them, “Get outta here, you bums.” Our teacher told us to stop calling them bums, they were homeless people. We said, “Oh please. They’re bums.”
May 26th, 20091:11 am
Tex wanted to stay here the rest of his career. Bubdylan
That cuts right to the core, man. Right.to.the.core.
May 26th, 20091:12 am
From all MLBs Official Female Baseballs
Obsiously you weren’t on the blog during the game cause all 3 were ridiculed. We try to keep it balanced…keep up.
Steve, that sounds very…sensual.
May 26th, 20091:13 am
Braveheart, for whatever reason, about a full 15 seconds after I finished reading that and staring blankly at it, I burst into laughter.
For whatever reason….
Why am I arguing with an idiot concerning Tim Hudson.
One more time for the amateur. if club exercises 2010 option, Hudson may void & forfeit buyout.
What does that mean in layman terms? It means Tim Hudson loses 12 million dollars. Nobody in baseball will give any pitcher coming off TJ surgery that kind of money no matter who he is.
I’m convinced the team will exercise his option, you are not. One of us is wrong.
May 26th, 20091:14 am
And I can even do it sober.
You know you love me!
bravos2249 thats my point if we showcase him for 2 months and he goes 7-2. There are a lot of desperate GMs that would give Tim a big contract. Even with that small a sample size. 30M/3yr isnt that big a contract for a ………..
4. Mets (2 for 1 take and get)
5. Phillies (2 for 1 take and get)
May 26th, 20091:15 am
Oh, no!! What have I done?! I tried to stop it, I swear!!!
…if any of my posts are to be deleted, please…
Hmm…not what I was going for, but it’s a response, so we’ll go with it. Or maybe not…
Roman Gal, sorry I cut your core. Sounds very… sensual.
I believe Hudson more than I will Tex, he was just waiting to go to New York. Even though in the up coming years ( or distant future) there isn’t going to be a Jeter, Damon, Pettite and he’ll be expected to actually produce by himself.
I’ve yet to see him be a stand alone player. Although not til recently for Chipper. Chipper, Albert, and A-Rod are about the only players that could hit .300+ with anyone behind them.
May 26th, 20091:16 am
that’s only 10 million a season. My point is what team would honestly give him that long a contact. And good luck hoping 1) he’s actually able to come back that soon and 2) he’ll go 7-2.
Sometimes the smiley just doesn’t do what you meant it to do…
May 26th, 20091:17 am
Tim Hudson doesn’t have Scott Boras for an agent.
Uh oh, I think Bub’s been hittin’ the hooch. Roman Gal, try not to take advantage of him…
I’m pretty sure Atlanta would rather pay Hudson 12 million then have him go to New York or Philly.
May 26th, 20091:19 am
Yeah and the Braves can also pay the buyout and resign him for less if they wanted to. Of course they’d have to actually inform Huddy for him to agree to that. I would think if you get the axe then are wanted back that doesn’t feel good.
May 26th, 20091:21 am
*awkward running away down the rainy lonely streets with arms flailing*
May 26th, 20091:22 am
bravos2249 Tim has the power to void the option!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you not remember thet Coach always makes a contradictory point to every argument that he makes. That way he has his own little “out” clause.
I find it hilarious that he is calling for the summary execution of Norton since he was the one that was so Pro-Norton to get him.
COACH for any relevant post you make that may actually bear merit you have 2-3 moronic posts that take away your credibility.. You flip-flop more than Randy Quaid’s character in Major League. Famous Line –”You’re Old Mother Hubbard and only VAUGHN”S in the cubbard!!”
Honestly, when I read that, I imagined some skeezy guy rocking back and forth. Then adding a “heh heh” at the end. Kinda like a horror film.
May 26th, 20091:23 am
bravos, they’ll either pick up the option or they won’t. And I’ll go ahead and make the “bold prediction” that they will, seeing as DOB has already informed us that they intend to.
May 26th, 20091:24 am
“Honestly, when I read that, I imagined some skeezy guy rocking back and forth. Then adding a “heh heh” at the end. Kinda like a horror film.” -Roman Gal
Crap. Is my webcam on??
May 26th, 20091:25 am
“Crap. Is my webcam on??”
Five reasons to go after Matt Holliday.
194 runs scored. ranked 10th place.
182 RBI. ranked 11th place.
.398 SLG. ranked 11th place.
33 HR’s. ranked 13th place.
586 total bases. ranked 13th place.
10 stolen bases. Dead frigging last. Although I don’t think Holliday will help in this department.
Nighty night ladies.
May 26th, 20091:26 am
Coach — No Paul Cohen is his agent but is still a stingy agent.
May 26th, 20091:28 am
Don’t worry, Bub. We’re gonna make you millions off that stuff.
(Does this make me your pimp?)
May 26th, 20091:29 am
One of ‘em…
May 26th, 20091:30 am
Don’t worry, Bub. We’re gonna make you millions off that stuff.
Aaaannndd…that’s my cue to leave. Wouldn’t want the Feds thinking I’m the assistant pimp. Although I have a ton of baby powder…
May 26th, 20091:31 am
Are female pimps even called “pimps”? Or would I be a pimpette?
Steve from OH, don’t go. I’m skeered.
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