Something weird is happening. Looking at the radar, it looks like the rain is sort of splitting away around turner field. The baseball gods don’t want DOB have to sit through another miserable rain delay.
To get a series win vs the team with the 2nd best record in baseball will be huge, a win tonight gives us a winning homestand. This will be everso important with that frightening June Freight Train right around the corner.
I wonder if the rain starting up had anything to do with BC removing Lowe. Either he wants to stall or he’s concerned that it will affect Lowe’s pitching.
why take lowe out? he was only at 97 pitches….you think bobby wanted him out of the rain to possibly avoid slipping and injuring himself. thats the only thing i could think of. DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Baseball is a funny game. And batting average sucks. Schafer was 29-for-135 coming into tonight, for a .215 batting average. But his 25 walks brings his OBP up to a respectable .335 mark…league average and perfectly fine for a rookie center fielder playing good defense and hitting eighth. Replace ten of Schafer’s walks with singles. He’d be 39-for-135 with 15 walks…for the exact same OBP of .335. But because his batting average would then be .289, most people here then would like him and say he was doing good even though he’d really being doing exactly the same. (BOO)
Hate to break it to you kiddo, but not all OBPs are the same. If you would take your sabermetric analysis a bit further, you’d examine linear weights and know that a walk is worth .30 runs, and a single is worth .46 runs. Thus, hitting ten singles instead of drawing ten walks is worth 1.6 more runs to your team. Doesn’t sound like much, BUT, you’re also only talking about the difference between 10 singles and 10 walks over a sample size of about 160 plate appearances.
An everyday major leaguer should get about 90% of the plate appearances for his lineup slot, so he should get about 640 plate appearances. Then you’re talking about the difference between 40 singles or 40 walks. Those 40 walks would be worth 12 runs. Those 40 singles would be worth 18.4 runs. A difference of 6.4 runs is fairly significant in performance measurement and player valuation. Indeed it’s about a $3.1 million dollar a year difference for the purposes of determining player salaries. So the difference between a guy who hits .269 with an OBP of .337 and a guy who hits .214 with an OBP of .337 is 6.4 runs and $3.1 million dollars a season.
Now take it the extreme. Take your .214 hitting guy with a .337 OBP and 25 walks in 160 plate appearances and compare him to a guy who hits .337 with a .337 OBP but who draws no walks in 160 plate appearances, and hits 25 singles instead of drawing 25 walks. Those 25 singles are worth 11.5 runs. Those 25 walks are only worth 7.5 runs. That’s a difference of 4 runs. Convert that to 640 plate appearances and the difference between the .337 hitter and the .215 hitter with the same OBP is a whopping 16 runs, and about a $7.74 million dollar difference in yearly salary on the free agent market. Still think OBP is the end all, be all and that batting average is not worth examining at all?
McCann looks to be having trouble with his glasses in the rain. He bunts a shooter along the line, which hits third base. No one was anywhere close with the shift on. Base hit.
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bravesphanatic004
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
that was a cluth homer and a HUGE run!!!!!
JD
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
I told you guys Kelly wasn’t as sucky as you made him out to be
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
The graphic indicated that Glavine threw 56 pitches in Gwinnett.
adbaston45
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
haha so true Boo @ 8:53 haha
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
way to go kelly, we need more of that from ya
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
8:57 pm
Yessss!!!! There We Go KJ….!!!!
Man Seeing Homeruns at the Ted Is A Rarity….
We Need Rain NOW!!!
AndyC
May 23rd, 2009
8:58 pm
Nice easy swing for KJ. That was a rocket shot!
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
8:58 pm
If Barton were to be called up, it’d be prime for rocket scientist jokes ~_~
bravesphanatic004
May 23rd, 2009
8:58 pm
wow! 27,000+ crowd with rain all around….i must say way to go atlanta fans!
Goldenglove002
May 23rd, 2009
8:59 pm
Something weird is happening. Looking at the radar, it looks like the rain is sort of splitting away around turner field. The baseball gods don’t want DOB have to sit through another miserable rain delay.
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:00 pm
Might just be able to get the game in.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:00 pm
End of the seventh. No rain yet. Braves lead 4-2.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:02 pm
Lowe comes out to pitch to the top of the order in the eighth.
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:03 pm
Rain is falling pretty hard, move it along Lowe
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:03 pm
Fein reports that it is now raining at Turner Field.
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:03 pm
To get a series win vs the team with the 2nd best record in baseball will be huge, a win tonight gives us a winning homestand. This will be everso important with that frightening June Freight Train right around the corner.
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:03 pm
Nice play Schafer.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:03 pm
Scutaro hits a fly to the warning track in straight-away center and Schafer makes a good running catch.
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
9:04 pm
Do Not Pull Him!!!!
Bobby C!! Don’t Do It!!!
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:04 pm
well then why did he start the inning?
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:04 pm
Cox is out to remove Lowe from the game. Lowe is doing some fast talking. Cox calls on the bullpen anyway.
Jeff321
May 23rd, 2009
9:04 pm
Lowe doesn’t look very happy to be getting yanked.
cabravesfan
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
Is it jus tme or did D Lowe not look overly thrilled at coming out of the game?
bravos2249
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
I kinda don’t mind him coming out, that last ball was hit hard.
AndyC
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
It didn’t look like Lowe wanted to come out of the game.
Louisville brave
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
cox called for the righty…thinks it gonna be moylan
Bobby Cox
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
“Sorry Lowe, you’re doing real great and all but you’ve almost hit the arbitrary pitch number of 100 so I gotta yank ya for our blow—er, bullpen.”
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:05 pm
I wonder if the rain starting up had anything to do with BC removing Lowe. Either he wants to stall or he’s concerned that it will affect Lowe’s pitching.
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm
Petey Moylan…I like him…but he scares the hell out of me coming in close games.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm
Moylan in to pitch the remainder of the eighth.
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm
More great work by Lowe. Here is to Jurrjens keeping it going tomorrow.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm
I have no trust in Moylan. Scares the hell out of me.
braves70
May 23rd, 2009
9:06 pm
Can’t undestand this. Thought we wanted to get the inning over in a hurry before the rain. Cox extends the inning by making a change?
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
9:07 pm
I have A Bad Feeling About Moylan Being In…Please Pour Down Rain!!!
So we can save the bullpen’s arms
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:07 pm
Where is Soriano
Boo
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
Moylan in throwing balls.
AndyC
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
Joe keeps saying that the Braves need to play fast. They need to play slow. I’ll take a rain shortened win.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
If Soriano is up, why not put him in. Moylan can’t throw strikes. Bad managing by BC.
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
If he walks this guy, go ahead and get Soriano please.
Gil In Mechanicsville
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
Can the Braves employ a NO WALKS defense?
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
MOYLAN COME ON!!!! WTF!!!
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
OK HOOK PLEASE.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
Moylan walks the first batter he faces.
Soriano is up in the bullpen.
Louisville brave
May 23rd, 2009
9:08 pm
moylan…wtf!!!
kirkinga
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Geez..here we go.
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
seriously, Moylan?
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Moylan needs his glasses and a diet
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Bobby Cox is giving this game away
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Because yes, 1 strike out of 7 pitches is going to get it done.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Moylan is missing inside. 5 balls miss, all in the same location. Make an adjustment, dude!
braves70
May 23rd, 2009
9:09 pm
Take Moylan out! He cannot throw strikes.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:10 pm
Why pull Lowe for Moylan. I would understand if it was Soriano.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:11 pm
Forget a bat, we need another reliever.
Jerry
May 23rd, 2009
9:11 pm
Rob you in a hurry to panic?
Boo
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
If the Braves lose, I wanna hear a good excuse from Cox for seemingly pulling Lowe for no real reason.
bravesphanatic004
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
why take lowe out? he was only at 97 pitches….you think bobby wanted him out of the rain to possibly avoid slipping and injuring himself. thats the only thing i could think of. DP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Double Play suffices ~_~
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Hell Yeah!!!! Nice DP!!!!
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
See? I knew Moylan could do it.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Was Peter Moylan this fat 2 years ago
Louisville brave
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
great move putting moylan in bobby!!
Jeff321
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Moylan makes it through unscathed..
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Just how Moylan had it planned all along
AndyC
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Pitcher’s best friend!
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Double Play! Ends the inning. Going to the bottom of the eighth.
That crafty Aussie put the runner on just so that he could get two outs with one pitch.
Gil In Mechanicsville
May 23rd, 2009
9:12 pm
Okay Rob… take slow deep breaths….
PWHjort
May 23rd, 2009
9:13 pm
How many pitches had Lowe thrown? (I’d look it up myself but I can’t find it on my phone)
bravesphanatic004
May 23rd, 2009
9:13 pm
Rob we might need another arm in the pen but we desperately need power.
PI Braves
May 23rd, 2009
9:13 pm
Lucky you mate! your pitches were awful
Jerry
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
Ole’ Bobby was right again!
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
Well, another quick insurance run and then a quick top of the 9th would be nice here
braves70
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
I think Joe said Lowe was at 97 pitches.
PWHjort
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
Bravesphanatic004 answered my question.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:14 pm
Not being mean, Moylan just looks out of shape. He does look a lot bigger.
RANDOM STUPIDITY
May 23rd, 2009
9:15 pm
OMG ! Here comes bobby! Lowe gets pulled. WTF???????
Peter Moylan walks the first batter! ARGHHHHHHHHH!
Double play !
Cox is a frigging genius!
I’m stupid.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:15 pm
McCann needs to stop trying to bunt
Braveheart
May 23rd, 2009
9:15 pm
Baseball is a funny game. And batting average sucks. Schafer was 29-for-135 coming into tonight, for a .215 batting average. But his 25 walks brings his OBP up to a respectable .335 mark…league average and perfectly fine for a rookie center fielder playing good defense and hitting eighth. Replace ten of Schafer’s walks with singles. He’d be 39-for-135 with 15 walks…for the exact same OBP of .335. But because his batting average would then be .289, most people here then would like him and say he was doing good even though he’d really being doing exactly the same. (BOO)
Hate to break it to you kiddo, but not all OBPs are the same. If you would take your sabermetric analysis a bit further, you’d examine linear weights and know that a walk is worth .30 runs, and a single is worth .46 runs. Thus, hitting ten singles instead of drawing ten walks is worth 1.6 more runs to your team. Doesn’t sound like much, BUT, you’re also only talking about the difference between 10 singles and 10 walks over a sample size of about 160 plate appearances.
An everyday major leaguer should get about 90% of the plate appearances for his lineup slot, so he should get about 640 plate appearances. Then you’re talking about the difference between 40 singles or 40 walks. Those 40 walks would be worth 12 runs. Those 40 singles would be worth 18.4 runs. A difference of 6.4 runs is fairly significant in performance measurement and player valuation. Indeed it’s about a $3.1 million dollar a year difference for the purposes of determining player salaries. So the difference between a guy who hits .269 with an OBP of .337 and a guy who hits .214 with an OBP of .337 is 6.4 runs and $3.1 million dollars a season.
Now take it the extreme. Take your .214 hitting guy with a .337 OBP and 25 walks in 160 plate appearances and compare him to a guy who hits .337 with a .337 OBP but who draws no walks in 160 plate appearances, and hits 25 singles instead of drawing 25 walks. Those 25 singles are worth 11.5 runs. Those 25 walks are only worth 7.5 runs. That’s a difference of 4 runs. Convert that to 640 plate appearances and the difference between the .337 hitter and the .215 hitter with the same OBP is a whopping 16 runs, and about a $7.74 million dollar difference in yearly salary on the free agent market. Still think OBP is the end all, be all and that batting average is not worth examining at all?
RHR
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
This just in from Joe Simpson: Rain is wet.
That’s good knowledge right there.
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
McCann that SPEEDSTER!
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
McCann is a STUD!
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
Wow. That was an ugly bunt
Tomahawkin
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
There We Go B-Macc!
David O'Brien
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
Mac, laying down the bunt to defy the shift. Nice work by the big man.
cabravesfan
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
Not really sure what that was from Mac but I’m sure he’ll take it
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:16 pm
McCann looks to be having trouble with his glasses in the rain. He bunts a shooter along the line, which hits third base. No one was anywhere close with the shift on. Base hit.
Louisville brave
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
BMAC!!!!
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
I think he has to be the fastest catcher in the major leagues!
PWHjort
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
Hah everyone freaks out when Moylan walks a batter then celebrates when he gets a dp. In-game posters are hormonal.
braves70
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
We got our stolen base leader on with a bunt. The mighty McCann.
abwright
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
McCann draws a throw at first base after his display of speed last night.
cricket
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
Way to go Mac..that folks was a cricket hit more than a baseball hit
jkerr
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
now steal that base
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
wonder if McCann goes for the team lead in steals
Jeff321
May 23rd, 2009
9:17 pm
Where are you McFann? What did you think about that “bunt” down the third base line?
RANDOM STUPIDITY
May 23rd, 2009
9:18 pm
Brian McCann can run, Brian McCann can bunt, Brian McCann should be our lead off hitter!
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:18 pm
hit and run here?
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 23rd, 2009
9:19 pm
Mutts losing 2-1 in the 8th. I love it.
Rob from SC
May 23rd, 2009
9:19 pm
that was hit hard. Prado has some sock
Shamus Thacker
May 23rd, 2009
9:19 pm
Some of our much-meligned are dishin crow tonight…
BravesFanChris24
May 23rd, 2009
9:20 pm
Atta Boy Jeff!