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njbraves
May 25th, 2009
2:10 pm
Coach…you should really stop talking. All you do is make yourself seem dumber and dumber everyday. Hernandez isn’t ready for the bigs. If he was, why would the Braves leave him at AA? It makes no sense.
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
2:11 pm
Spoke too soon: CHIPPPER’S NOT IN LINEUP.
Day to day. He was in initial lineup today, but that was more hoping that anything. He got to ballpark, said it felt same, still sore. Running bases didn’t help.
ESCOBAR is day-to-day, still not in lineup
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
2:12 pm
Can anyone tell me how long are we going to be talking about ex-Brave prospects lost in the Tex trade? 10 years from now is this still going to be comeing up because it is old. What is done is done. I think the Braves have learned their lesson on giving up a ton of prospects for one guy, hence the Peavy no-trade.
Braves Paisan
May 25th, 2009
2:13 pm
Damn, if the Braves still had Teixiera, we would be unbeatable.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
2:14 pm
No Chipper In the Lineup should equal no problem…The braves have played like contenders despite him and Esco not being in the lineup…
I wonder if he is still available to pinch hit?
Joebrave
May 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
Really?? Chipper’s toes are not to be trifled with…
Jim Hertel
May 25th, 2009
2:15 pm
Last year at this time, I was beginning to get excited about the Braves chances, and everyone knows the debacle the season became. This year, I don’t know. The pitching is much improved, and we surely won’t have the rash of injuries that plagued the team last year. But, the hitting is about the same or maybe a tad worse this year.
The real void is a right-handed hitter who can drive in runs. There weren’t any of those available as FA last year, and I don’t see many good trade targets either. I think this must be a vanishing breed, and is surely the reason the Braves have stayed so long with JeffF. He is what he is, and I don’t think there will ever be much improvement over what we are seeing. GA doesn’t offer much either, except as a role player off the bench. I hear some people calling for Matt Diaz, but he’s had his chance and proven that he isn’t an everyday player. He does have value off the bench and in spot starts. Jordan will carry his weight with his defense alone, and I believe he will hit. Blanco? Please, no!
Our best hitters in the minors are all left-handed swingers (Freeman, Heyward, and Johnson), so there doesn’t seem to be any cure for our need on the farm. I had some faint hope for Owings, but that has since evaporated. It would be good to see Mark DeRosa back in a Braves uniform, but not at too high a price. I wouldn’t give up a good prospect, and I include Morton in that classification. Maybe he would be worth some prospects in the lower minors, but I think we are going to need Morton this year to replace Bennett, Carlisle, and/or possibly Moylan. You can never have too much pitching.
Bottomline. The 2009 Braves are probably a little better than a .500 club, but not much. It may not be worth it to go for it this year, but better times are coming.
TommyP
May 25th, 2009
2:16 pm
CC: Go around your MLB rosters and look at the 5th OF. Usually this is a guy that can simply field or pinch run. Those types would give you the same offense and good defense.
Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any great defensive-sucky offensive CF that we should get to match what we’re getting right now. ‘Cause you need to hit to start.
I mean there’s Bourn or Taveras but I’m not sure how great their defense is, honestly. They’re speedy, slap hitters that can steal bases.
I think you get my point, though.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
Oh Yea, I don’t think Chipper has put up big numbers at AT&T/Pac-Bell Park or whatever Corporate Name you want to slash on it…
Seriously if this nagging toe thing keeps him out of the lineup, We need the games at the AL parks to come up fast so he can Dh and get Prado in there…
The good thing about Prado is no one knows about him…Good Advantage for the braves when they play the Bankees and Red Faux…
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
Chipper needs to drink more milk! “Coach”, Gorky’s isn’t ready, pal!
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
PHWjort, I found it extremely peculiar that Spruill gave up all those runs his last time out while only giving up one XBH. That’s kinda wierd. Though he’s a groundball pitcher and I haven’t heard good things about Rome’s defense, so I suppose that’s a bit of an explanation.
Coach, gimme a freakin’ break. Hernandez isn’t ready and you know it. Just because someone doesn’t agree with your BS line of reasoning doesn’t mean they’re stupid. And I think O’Brien understands the club’s position a little better than you, wouldn’t you say? And Josh Anderson? Don’t make me laugh! Schafer has a higher OBP than him and twice as many XBH (though in more plate appearances). He also has a higher ISO. Did I mention that Anderson has a .664 OPS? Do you really think that adding another Francoeur is going to help us? Surely you jest!
You really are the biggest blowhard on this blog.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
2:18 pm
Harrison gave up two runs in the first to the Yanks.
The Tex trade was a success! All you haters need to shut up!
(If he doesn’t give up any runs in the second, the trade will be the worst trade ever made.)
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
2:19 pm
Schafer came straight from AA to the majors. And your solution for giving Schafer some seasoning at AAA is bringing Gorkys straight from AA to the majors? What’s that old adage we use around here all the time? Oh yeah, “doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.” We’re not going to improve our CF production by bringing Gorkys up.
TommyP
May 25th, 2009
2:21 pm
PWHjort: I agree with your last post. (actually, you’ve made several good ones today)
MGL
May 25th, 2009
2:22 pm
Speaking of Harrison vs Yankees, he just had a 4 hit, 2 run 1st inn.
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
2:23 pm
Man If We can get one of Our Other Regulars to carry the Team While Chipper is out, Like A. Jones did in 2005 in his Career Year…This Team can make a Push…
I think The Kotchmeister Goes Yard Today With the Short Dimensions from the Right field line to Right Center (To Hit anything Out of the Park left of Right Center is only Restricted to Barroid Bonds Only, They Need to name it the Barroid Alley, Nook ETC, because I have seen few people other than him tho it one in the area OF Ctr/Rt,Ctr where the angle gets drastic)…
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:24 pm
Oh, and I’m pretty sure that Dave has seen Hernandez play.
Supes
May 25th, 2009
2:24 pm
Only Coach is the one who thinks Gorky’s is ready for the Major Leagues. Apparently Coach knows more than the Braves coaches at AA, management and scouting.
Sometimes, you have to take a look at the big picture. I’m confident in the Braves Organization to know when Gorky’s IS ready, they’ll let Wren/Bobby know about it, and I’m sure they are keeping a close eye on the situation in general.
However, once again…Coach knows best!:look:
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
2:24 pm
2008 Braves: 12-15 in April, 17-12 May, 11-16 June, 10-15 July, 9-20 August, 13-12 September.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
2:25 pm
It has been a long nightmare with Francoeur, but it finally feels like it is ending.
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
PWHjort,
Shafer isn’t Gorkys. Gorkys may fare no better than Shafer, but just becauses Shafer isn’t cutting it offensively doesn’t mean that Gorkys could not. And sorry about disagreeing with your last statement that “We’re not going to improve our CF production by bringing Gorkys up.” If you said, it’s unlikely we improve or odds are that production won’t improve, I could accept that. Stating matter of factly that production from the CF spot would not improve by bringing Gorkys is silly to say the least. After all, the guy wouldn’t have to hit much more than his weight to beat what Shafer has done offensively now would he?
CCjacket
May 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
Tommy,
I do get your point. I think we you & I place a different value on defense; to me, your CFer has to be able to go get the ball. Even more so when you have statues in LF and RF. Schafer can do this. Not every 5th OFer on a roster can.
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
2:26 pm
Steve from OH, Spruill has given up 11 singles today. 2 ER. 4 K’s. 0 BB’s.
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
2:28 pm
“It has been a long nightmare with Francoeur, but it finally feels like it is ending.”
Do you know something that we all don’t? Or is this just your guess?
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
2:28 pm
Supes,
Coaches at the AA level, Braves scouts and management haven’t been too impressive with their call that Shafer IS ready have they?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:29 pm
I noticed that Efrim. Is Spruill that unlucky, or are the Rome Braves that bad? His BABIP is .322, and you know that is going up after this game…
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
2:30 pm
PWH to be fair with me I said move Gorkys to AAA to see how he does, and if succeeds then in Sep call him up.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:32 pm
Man, I’m about to burst a bunion with all this Schafer talk today. Josh Anderson? Still? Really?
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
2:32 pm
After hitting .203/.295/.391(80 plate appearances) in April, Kelly Johnson is hitting .306/.358/.468(67 plate appearances) in May.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:33 pm
Coaches at the AA level, Braves scouts and management haven’t been too impressive with their call that Shafer IS ready have they?
Yeah, we all know how much all those guys in the Braves organization suck. Really, we should fire them all!!
Random
May 25th, 2009
2:33 pm
Coach (Butts ‘r Bust) (1:38 pm): “Don’t go making assumptions about thing you know nothing about Sir.”
Pot, kettle, anyone?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:34 pm
CY Jones, kinda like how Hernandez hit .264/.348/.387 at Myrtle Beach last season? Hey, I think the kid is a great prospect, but he still is very raw. Very raw. He can hit for average, but hasn’t shown anything more than a very average (or slightly below) BB% and if he gets into the bigs, he’s not going to walk enough to keep a respectable OBP, like Schafer’s. He also doesn’t hit for any power. Kid needs more development, period. As for the stolen bases, sure, he’s stolen nine this season, but he’s been caught six times. That’s not good, is it Coach?
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:35 pm
Someone posted an ESPN Insider article on Vasquez earlier (sorry, can’t remember who). Anyone care to elaborate on what was said?
Efrim
May 25th, 2009
2:35 pm
Steve from OH, I don’t know, to be honest. I do know that they aren’t a great “prospect” team though……. from an offensive standpoint.
Supes
May 25th, 2009
2:36 pm
“Coaches at the AA level, Braves scouts and management haven’t been too impressive with their call that Shafer IS ready have they?”
Ahh, I beg to differ. This was Bobby’s and Wren’s decision based on what they saw in Spring Training and the Fact that Josh Anderson was out of minor league options!
They are 2 completely different things. Oh, and I bet the first 10 games you didn’t think that they made the wrong decision when Jordan was hitting OK (at that time).
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
2:36 pm
Tomahawkin
I agree, and with kelly on a hot streak it’s hard to not want him lower in the lineup and Prado leading off, just so Kelly can drive in more runs. But it’s also a plus to have him hitting first.
richbrave
May 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
“CY”:
Where’s that KOOL-AID you been drinkin’. I GOT to get some of that.
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
Roman Gal
I don’t have the Insider, but the free part basically said a change of scenery has done him good and that his chageup is as good as Santana’s and Hamel’s.
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
2:38 pm
Oh btw Tommy….just so YOU know…I didn’t get your point. If I did..I wouldn’t be asking.
Frankie Knuckles
May 25th, 2009
2:39 pm
Mark,
A long nighmare? Cmon man, thats being a little histrionic.
AndyC,
Just finished watching Breaking Bad. Did you think Walt was justified in letting that happen? He’s got a family to protect. If he hadn’t of moved Jesse that probably wouldn’t have happened. That was cold blooded, but maybe necessary. Whats your take?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:39 pm
Yeah, we all know how much all those guys in the Braves organization suck. Really, we should fire them all!!
Yeah, and replace them with Coach so he can change personnel every two weeks! But we’ll keep the players on their toes, we will!
Coach as a GM=Dave Littlefield. Yeah, I said it.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
2:39 pm
What are potential right handed outfielders the Braves could/would swing a deal for?
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:39 pm
bravos2249
so Kelly can drive in more runs
We’ve already established that Kelly is a selfish hitter who walks and hits ground-rule doubles to keep the team from scoring as many as possible. Try to keep up.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
Frankie,
He did the right thing. She deserved it.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
But we’ll keep the players on their toes, we will! Steve from OH
Oh, no! Think of the bunions!
bravos2249
May 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
Roman Gal
LOL. I missed the game yesterday, watching the re-run of it now before today’s game.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
2:41 pm
Career Minor League Stats:
Jordan Schafer: .270/.339/.447 – 178 ISOP, 69 Batter’s Eye
Gorkys Hernandez: .295/.354/.405 – 110 ISOP, 59 Batter’s Eye
Schafer had 2 and 2/3 full seasons plus a rookie league shortened season.
Gorkys has had 2 full seasons and a rookie league shortened season (plus this one).
AA stats:
Gorkys Hernandez: .339/.393/.417 – 78 ISOP, 54 Batter’s Eye
Jordan Schafer: .269/.378/.471 – 202 ISOP, 109 Batter’s Eye
Neither one of them is ready for the big leagues, but based on their minor league track records, Schafer is much more ready than Gorkys. Gorkys displays very, very little secondary offense (other than sb). He doesn’t hit for power, he doesn’t really draw that many walks, and most of his stats are batting-average driven. Part of the reason his average is so high is he legs out infield singles all the time. One of the biggest differences between minor league baseball and MLB is the defenses in MLB are far superior to those in MiLB. You can’t tell me that if Gorkys were called up today you’d expect him to fare better against MLB pitching than Schafer currently is. Take away a few singles and a few doubles from Gorkys just due to the better defenses, and he’s already looking like a replacement level player. And we haven’t even accounted for the fact that the pitchers are way, WAY better. Schafer is struggling right now because he can’t hit MLB pitching like he could hit MiLB pitching. But he’s providing secondary skills with his bat and in the field which make him not a total black hole of a roster spot. While Gorkys would provide a similar level of defense, he’s not really capable of providing the secondary offensive skills that Schafer possesses, and he ain’t going to jump into MLB from AA and hit .339 (which is what he has to do to be an above-average offensive player), or even .285, so calling up Gorkys is NOT the solution.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:44 pm
True, Roman Gal. Toes are not to be trifled with, after all…
Good stuff, PWH.
pryguy
May 25th, 2009
2:44 pm
Not that I think they should deal for outfielder, I think Frenchy needs to be given a chance here to get it right.
Joe Fan
May 25th, 2009
2:44 pm
Don’t expect the Braves to make any major moves unless the Mets or Phils take the plunge. The Braves have more than enough pitching to stay competitive. Good pitching dominates good offense and the Braves have enough to win the division.
Lawton
May 25th, 2009
2:45 pm
Lineup is up:
Kelly
Prado
Diaz
McCann
Frenchy
Kotch
Diory
Jordan
Javy
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
2:46 pm
Supes,
Yeah, I thought they made a mistake. Know why? Because they put all their eggs in the Shafer basket, that’s why. Wren and Cox said by trading Josh Anderson, “Shafer is our guy. We’re going to sink or swim with him.”
Wren didn’t address the outfield production problem in the offseason. He knew he didn’t. Perhaps he hoped to catch lightning in a bottle with Shafer. If Shafer with all his potential shows up and rakes, Wren is a genius! He addressed his outfield production problem in house! Garret Anderson was an addition that would make the transition complete. A guy who has respectable numbers but also a guy who had not played full time in the outfield in two years!
So GA is actually playing below expectations and so is Shafer. Like last year the production from the Braves outfield is at the bottom of the major leagues!
So with stats like that Bobby can afford to play a guy in the outfield for his defense only!
Geez! Gonna be a long season!
Mark
May 25th, 2009
2:47 pm
Or is this just your guess?
Guess based on various stuff. I think the Braves have had it themselves and Francoeur’s latest singles splurge ain’t gonna save him.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
Roman Gal, it was all about his changeup. They’ve noted that he’s only given up three hits off his changeup (0.97 BAA) and that none of them were hard-hit. They say the velocity separation and arm action are outstanding, and that when he throws it after a fastball hitters swing and miss 50% of the time. It was only three short paragraphs, so you’re not missing much…
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
bravos2249–
Aw, mann…it was a great game!
Mark
May 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
Lineup is up:
Uh….where is Chipper?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
2:48 pm
Bravos2249, I think It might Be B-Macc That takes Over While Chipper rides the Pine. Everyone on here knows that he has been Clownin since he got the Specs…And Man D-Ross Was the Most Underrated Acquistion of the Offseason after suffering through a summer of watch Dorky Miller….!
Lawton
May 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
Mark:
DOB mentioned that Chipper was in the preliminary lineup earlier today, but that the decision was made to not play him based on how he felt when he arrived at the ballpark.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
Wren didn’t address the outfield production problem in the offseason. He knew he didn’t
Oh, I agree. But keep in mind that he was also trying to fix the pitching staff. And that he tried to trade for Jason Bay at the deadline last year, so I think he’s been doing more than you think to try to fix the OF, until the Sawx swooped in and made a great bid. By all accounts they’re looking for a bat right now, so it’s not like he is (or has been) sitting on his hands…
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
2:50 pm
Steve from OH,
Rome’s defense is TERRRRRRRRRRIBLE. And I can’t stress this enough. The fact that the pitchers are doing so well is a testament to how good of a pitching prospect class we have at Low-A. It may be the best in the country. And their offense is pretty terrible too. There’s maybe 2 (Luis Sumoza and Braeden Schlehuber) and a half (Stephen Shults) prospects among the position players, but I’m counting 8 legitimate prospects among the pitchers (Craig Kimbrel, Randall Delgado, Brett DeVall, J.J. Hoover, Zeke Spruill, Paul Clemens, David Francis, and Jacob Thompson).
Daybed Wagmoe
May 25th, 2009
2:51 pm
Some on here are saying that the Braves would be much better if they still had Teixeira, and perhaps they would. I think some are attributing this theory to his home run totals: he has 13 right now, as opposed to the 5 that he had at this time last year.
It may be worth pointing out, though, that all of his HR have come in 2 different parks: Yankee Stadium and Camden Yards (Baltimore). Both parks have deeper CFs than Turner Field — YS 408, CY 410 as compared to TF’s 401 — but TF has deeper LF and RF. According to baseball-reference.com, none of Tex’s HR have been hit out to CF; of the 10 hit at Yankee Stadium, 7 have been hit to LF or RF, with 5 hit to RF; the other three have been hit to LF-CF or RF-CF. In Baltimore, one was hit to LF-CF, one to RF, and one to CF-RF.
All this is to say that Tex is thriving now that his home stadium is smaller.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:51 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4204044
Milton Bradley is a real…uh, butthead.
“Let’s try to ruin Milton Bradley.”
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
2:52 pm
PWH,
There’s one thing you left out. Shafer has PROVEN he isn’t ready because he’s actually played in the big leagues. Gorkys might not hit .339 jumping to the big leagues, but he might hit .260 and that’s much better than what Shafer is doing.
But we actually do agree. I don’t think the immediate solution in center is in house. However, I am convinced that no solution is coming from outside anytime soon.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:53 pm
PWH, I’m in complete agreement with you about the Rome staff. A lot of guys to be excited about. A lot.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
2:53 pm
Dang…shoulda gone with jerkish nutbag. I’ll have to remember that next time. Speaking of which…
Bay Area Steve, I can’t wait to see your sign!
Frank from KS
May 25th, 2009
2:54 pm
Whoever it was who posted the Yahoo Sports story about the Cleveland News Station’s nightly newscast reacting to LeBron’s shot on air….they were talking about it this morning on ESPN’s First Take (formerly Cold Pizza). Jay Crawford is a Cleveland sports nut and is from Cleveland, originally.
WEWS are the call letters of the news station in Cleveland. They have a video of it posted on their website…if anyone wants to check it out. Pretty cool.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
2:55 pm
BAS, when you hold your sign up, will you wear a leather jacket, slightly unzipped so that your cross necklace will entangle in you chest hair? Or will the wig and Ray-Bans have to do?
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
2:56 pm
Yeah, but Schafer has a .331 OBP and a .310 SLG %, 2 metrics much more important than BA. And I HIGHLY doubt Gorkys would top those numbers. I think if you called him up tomorrow and let him play CF for 6 weeks his line would be something like .220/.260/.250. And this is just a guesstimation, though it is very unlikely that Gorkys would improve our CF situation. Even if he hits .260, he doesn’t really display enough secondary skills to top Schafer’s offensive production, not by much at least.
LKS
May 25th, 2009
2:56 pm
Thanks to ALL the veterans today as well as our active military…including my boyfriend who unfortunately is heading to Afghanistan in July. You are all in my thoughts! THANK YOU!!!
Go Braves! Lets pull out a win today!!!!
Supes
May 25th, 2009
2:56 pm
Here is the main issue, if Wren goes for a bat now (before the July trade deadline), he’ll have to overpay. If we wait it out until this off-season to make the moves, Braves will get not only more options but better offers (as in trade packages, etc).
I don’t think we are one player away from going to the playoffs, (unless that player is Albert Pujols
It’ll be completely acceptable to possibly trade Jeff (during the season) and take care of half the OF problem that way…and then when Anderson leaves town after the season, they can address the other corner position.
Gotta build for the future. No Matt Holiday’s or Jermayne Dye’s!
David O'Brien
May 25th, 2009
2:57 pm
Almost forgot (actually, did):
LINEUP
1. KJ
2. Prado, 3B
3. Diaz, LF
4. McCann
5. Francoeur
6. Kotchman
7. D. Hernandez, SS
8. Schafer
9. Vazquez
Random
May 25th, 2009
2:58 pm
Braves Paisan (2:13 pm): “Damn, if the Braves still had Teixiera, we would be unbeatable.”
You do realize that Tex does not play the outfield, right?
And that the Braves are spotty at best both offensively and defensively in the OF corners, right? In fact, that’s their main problem?
Tex didn’t make a difference for the Braves the last two seasons — imo he wouldn’t make a difference for the Braves this season either. He’s just not what they need right now.
And they cannot afford him — if they had signed Tex, we’d be looking at a rotation consisting of the 5 best of Jurrjens, Campillo, Medlen, Hanson, Parr, Morton, Glavine. No Lowe, no Vazquez, no Kawakami.
That would be a lost (ie, “rebuilding”) season. With what we’ve got (and may reasonably acquire this summer), it’s not lost yet. Imo.
Supes
May 25th, 2009
2:58 pm
DOB is going to try for a new blog entries record before he puts up the new one:)
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
2:59 pm
Enter your comments here
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
2:59 pm
Roman Gal Dang…shoulda gone with jerkish nutbag.
“Butthead” works, though.
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
3:00 pm
Thanks for the lineup, Chief!
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
3:02 pm
Francoeur’s hitting fifth? DOB, are you yanking our chains?
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
3:02 pm
Anyone Like The KotchMeister Hitting 3rd instead of sixth, since he’s on a Roll…? Matty-D has been Good lately too, But I like The Kotchmeister’s tendency to work the counts better….
McFann ;Ô;
May 25th, 2009
3:02 pm
LKS–
Good post! Let me add my thanks to all those who serve/served our country!
N8
May 25th, 2009
3:02 pm
Eric from MO, you ask how long we’ll be talking about giving up prospects for Tex? I don’t know. Ask the Tigers how long they talked about Doyle for Smoltz (and Doyle led them to the playoffs), ask Vikings fans about Herschel Walker?
If 2 or 3 of those prospects end up being 10-15 year vets in the majors, giving decent contributions along the way, I think it’s valid to continue to gripe about it.
You’re right though, what’s done is done and it can’t be changed. But just because something is “done” doesn’t mean it still can’t be talked about. Otherwise sports talk radio and blogs wouldn’t have a place on this earth if all you were “allowed” to talk about was the present or the future.
PWHjort
May 25th, 2009
3:03 pm
Supes,
You don’t spend 40 million dollars on pitching then say, “eh, we’ll wait til next year to get a bat”. At this point, I’m all for over-paying (not by too much) for a bat, provided it’s a young, fairly cheap one. Like a Brad Hawpe, for example.
Supes
May 25th, 2009
3:04 pm
Since KJ is on a hotstreak, why not put him in the 3 hole infront of B-Mac?
Darn, I’ll never understand Bobby’s lineup process. Sometimes I think he just draws names out of a hat!
Tomahawkin
May 25th, 2009
3:04 pm
Frenchie Hitting Fifth, Not Good…!
Thanks Roman Gal for Noticing that….
Ya Know, If Frenchie Ran More He could be a # 2 hitter since he puts the ball in play so much to the infield when he pulls off…Could be a hit and run candidate, but his is so hard to figure out…
Mark
May 25th, 2009
3:04 pm
Enough with Josh Anderson.
.263/.314/.350, 0 homeruns
Francoeur: .662 OPS
J. Anderson: .664 OPS
Mark
May 25th, 2009
3:06 pm
Matt Holliday started off awful, but has 5 homeruns and an OPS of over .900 for the month of May. He’d be great for this team’s outfield.
N8
May 25th, 2009
3:06 pm
“Coach…you should really stop talking. All you do is make yourself seem dumber and dumber everyday. Hernandez isn’t ready for the bigs. If he was, why would the Braves leave him at AA? It makes no sense.” njbraves
I like it when people type stuff like this.
Uh… Both McCann and Francoeur started the 2005 season in AA, and made the jump to the majors later that year, WITHOUT going to AAA. Add to that BOTH of them had “worse” numbers than Gorkys does this year.
Perhaps you should stop talking?
MGL
May 25th, 2009
3:07 pm
Tomahawkin – Kotch is in a little slump, only 2 hits and 1 BB in last 5 games.
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
3:08 pm
PW,
I understand where you are coming from, but I don’t hold as much stock in numbers as you do. For example, when Brian McCann was called up from double A, there was nothing about his minor league stats that screamed that he was going to come to the bigs and become a 3 time all star in his first 3 full seasons.
I think it’s about comparing apples to apples. I don’t think the Braves are going to trade for a center fielder. I think the “not ready” Shafer isn’t a great option to finish the season with if the Braves want to make a run at the NL East. Gorkys may not be the answer, but it’s either Shafer or someone else in house in my opinion. Shafer is an apple. Gorkys is an apple. Outside help in the form of a trade is an orange. The Braves have an orchard and are not going into the grove business.
Just because I don’t think Shafer is the answer in center doesn’t mean I don’t think the kid has a future. I believe he is experiencing a great diservice this year. He should be in triple A working on his hitting for another season.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
3:09 pm
[praying to pagan bovine]
Please let the Giant’s offense be worse than ours!!
Eric from MO
May 25th, 2009
3:09 pm
I know N8 thats why I am considerng leaving this blog. I have been blogging here since 05 and am getting tired of everyones b!tching.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
3:09 pm
Brad Hawpe, you are the new Adrian Gonzalez.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
3:09 pm
N8, what did Francoeur do in AA, and how is he doing now?
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
3:13 pm
If a guy has shown that he can do little else than hit for average (and play defense) and have average-to-poor peripheral stats as one of the youngest players in the AA Southern league, daresay that more seasoning is in order. The kid’s game still needs a lot of polish, period.
MGL
May 25th, 2009
3:13 pm
I think Schafer will be OK, he seems to be getting better. He’s probably better off working with Chipper against MLB pitching than going down and hitting AAA hurlers. I just hope that he is only working with Chipper and not getting advice from too many people.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:14 pm
Kotchman should always be 2nd in lineup, but since a lefty is up, this makes sense and is plausible
"CY" Jones
May 25th, 2009
3:15 pm
Steve from OH,
I know you didn’t address me with the Francoeur in AA question, but as my last post stated, look at McCann in double A. His numbers didn’t foretell what he has turned into. He was the yawner when he was called up. He was like a throw-in in a trade. Frenchy was the Golden Boy. When he was called up shortly after McCann, everyone was talking about him like…… like….. Jordan Shafer!
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
3:15 pm
I wonder what it would take to get Rocco Baldelli from the Devil Rays. We could send them Scott Thorman, although we could probably hang onto him since he’s got options.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:15 pm
I’d actually like to see him against RHP or LHP in the 2 hole, but with it being a lefty going, it’s understandable.
BravesFanChris24
May 25th, 2009
3:16 pm
Oh, I forgot about him being in a slump, so that makes more sense as well.
Interested Observer
May 25th, 2009
3:17 pm
I have a hard time getting too excited about Gorkys only because I expect him to be traded at some point down the line. Think of all the excitement that was built up around Salty and Andrus only to now watch them with another team. This isn’t meant as a judgement on the Tex trade (you can say the same thing about Adam Wainwright), just a fact that in today’s game most of the time you connect with a rising prospect and they end up with another team.