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Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
10:36 pm
Efrim
That does sound good. I’m lucky to have 3 minor league teams pretty close; Rome, Chatanooga, and Gwinnett. Mississippi comes to Chatanooga in June. I might just have to head up there for a game. It would be good to see Gorkys play so I can confidently tell everyone that Jordan Schafer is better than him.
Lew
May 24th, 2009
10:36 pm
Re: Pitching-What really concerns me about the pitching is that Moylan leads the staff in appearances with 23 out of the 43 games-more than half the games and on pace to appear in over 80 games-WAY too much (especially this early) for a pitcher right at a year from his Tommy Johnson surgery.
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
10:39 pm
Don’t know why Bobby decided to play him in this DGANG…maybe ’cause Chipper and Escobar were out. McFann
I was wondering about that, too. Too bad we don’t have DOB here to torture the answers out of.
Braves Paisan
May 24th, 2009
10:39 pm
Funny thing about the Montgomery Biscuits — the city ran a “name the team” contest in connection with the opening of the new park and the name “Biscuits” WON, lol! I would love to see a list of the also-rans!
Also, my Biscuits cap is an all-powerful talisman which I bring along to Braves games, but which I only don in the 9th inning when the Braves are behind and absolutely must have a win. If you are ever in Montgomery and catch a game there, treat yourself to one.
Braveheart
May 24th, 2009
10:39 pm
N8, fine the big bat will come in and add an extra .3 runs a game so that these scrubs get 2.7 run support. Great, at least we’ll score an extra .3 runs a game when we lose on average 6.8 to 2.7.
N8
May 24th, 2009
10:40 pm
Braveheart, by the looks of my run support post at 10:27, your 10:27 post jumped the gun a bit, huh?
Just keep telling yourself that our pitching is the issue.
Normally, I’d say that I apologize for my last post being all bold. But in hindsight, I should be “yelling”, so I won’t.
BT
May 24th, 2009
10:41 pm
Reading the blog after the fact is so funny. Twenty straight bloggers say Bobby Cox is an idiot for bringing in Bennett. Many bloggers say Jordan is going to screw up unmercifully. People repeat BC is a dummy. All of a sudden “our team” is winning. I call BS! We are going to play well sometimes, BC is still a darn good manager and our team is coming around. Can we win it? Who knows, but that’s why they play the damn game, enjoy it!!
N8
May 24th, 2009
10:43 pm
“N8, fine the big bat will come in and add an extra .3 runs a game so that these scrubs get 2.7 run support. Great, at least we’ll score an extra .3 runs a game when we lose on average 6.8 to 2.7. Braveheart
OK. Right back at you then. You get your pitcher in here. Unless that guys name is Roy Halladay or Tim Lincecum, dropping the 4th or 5th starter’s ERA by an extra 1.5 run per game (assuming we’d add a pitcher that gives us the league average ERA), we’ll STILL lose those games, 4.5 to 2.2.
How about we meet in the middle and say it would be nice to add (whether via trade or in house callup) a reliable 5th starter (or 4th starter and move KK to the 5th spot), AND add a bat?
Sound good?
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from a luxury hotel in San Fran
May 24th, 2009
10:43 pm
Every time Frenchy makes a play, an angel gets its wings.
Be glad when I get my damn wings. Gonna fly the hell on up outta here. Go Angels!
David O'Brien
May 24th, 2009
10:46 pm
Mitchell: Yeah, it was in the 50s and foggy today. Very refreshing to get off the plane and step out into that. Been walking around all afternoon, getting a workout in walking up all the hills. Spent about an hour in Rasputin Records, which is a short walk from the hotel. Didn’t get over to the Haight….
DCBrave, so TnBrian should have a game story, notebook and series scout box filed by now then, right? I’d like to take a look at those. Since he was covering the game for me, right?
DirtyDawg
May 24th, 2009
10:47 pm
If Moylan doesn’t start getting the job done we won’t have to find out if his arm will hold up or not. Two straight appearances where Bobby has had to come get him after he walked people or hit people or otherwise put runners on in critical situations…two straight times when Bobby simply took the ball from him without his customary pat on the shoulder – his way of saying ‘you done good, kid’.
Threadkiller
May 24th, 2009
10:47 pm
A very nice day for Dunn..
Dunn launched two home runs, including a go-ahead grand slam in the seventh inning, for a career-high six RBIs and the Washington Nationals rallied for an 8-5 victory over the Orioles on Sunday.
“[Dunn] showed today the difference that he makes in our lineup and how much we needed him over here,” Nationals manager Manny Acta said.
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
10:49 pm
Oops…DOB is here!
[runs away]
Braves Paisan
May 24th, 2009
10:53 pm
The pitching all depends on KK after his last start, right? If he pitches anywhere near as well as he did against the Jays on Friday we could throw Shirley Franklin out there as the 5th starter and still make the playoffs.
cabravesfan
May 24th, 2009
10:55 pm
DOB-
Welcome to sunn…err…warm..er…California
Nice to have you in my part of the world for a little while.
New Nickname for Kenshin Kawakai
May 24th, 2009
10:57 pm
Kamikaze
cabravesfan
May 24th, 2009
11:01 pm
RHR-
Thanks for the visual on KK…that’s one more that I will never be able to look at the same anymore!
nolie
May 24th, 2009
11:02 pm
At best, Heyward might be a September callup next year. (EFRIM)
it will be interesting to see if teams continue to do that with their “sure thing” prospects as much as they used to. With the poor economy and the rising costs of arb for young stars, we might see them wait a month into the players first season to prolong the amount of control time. Perhaps not so much about the Super 2 classification. Any thoughts?
Tomahawkin
May 24th, 2009
11:03 pm
Did Anyone on here see the article on “What to do with Tim Hudson” when he comes back on Mlbtraderumors.com?
I’d like the Idea of Huddy coming in relief to build his arm strenght back up…
Lets See, Husdon has a 12 MM option or a 1MM buy out Next year. Both Gonzo and Soriano are both free agent after the year is done…
Gonna be a lot moves between now and the trade deadline as well as heading into the offseason…
If both Gonzo and Soriano depart via Free agency, I wonder who would be next in line for being the closer…
But all this is way too early to think about, but Huddy Coming back in Late August is gonna give us a lot of options heading into the offseason
Jerry Holcombe
May 24th, 2009
11:05 pm
N8: this pitching staff might not make us forget about the “Big 3″ of yesteryears. But it is certainly the best pitching staff the ML team in Atlanta has seen in years.
This has got to be a joke, right? Including the big three, we have seen pitchers at the back end of the rotation such as Avery, Liebrandt, Neagle, Millwood, Mercker, Byrd, Burkett, and Moss. Even in the year 2003, the staff of Maddux, Ortiz, Ramirez, Hampton, and Reynolds was better than this years staff. That staff was 74-39. The only way this year’s staff could get close to 2003 would be if Glavine got activated and pitched well and if Hanson were to be promoted, which ain’t gonna happen because too much money is invested in Kawakami.
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:06 pm
nolie, I think it’s a strategy that has pros and cons. I mean, you gain an extra year of club control and save cash, but you’re not building too much goodwill with the player. Will that lead to a higher cost in free agency? Looking a long way into the future, sure, but so is delaying FA by a year. I gotta think making Schafer the opening day starter and sticking with him through his troubles should build some goodwill between the player and the organization…I hope…
Generally, I’d approach it on a case-by-case basis, and not make it an organizational MO to call up top prospects in May or June regardless of situation.
Braveheart
May 24th, 2009
11:08 pm
AS LONG AS KENSHIN KAWAKAMI CONTINUES TO DO WHAT HE’S DONE IN MAY, OUR PITCHING WILL BE FINE (N8)
Yeah, I remember that from 2007 as well. As long as Buddy Carlyle continues to do what he’s done in June and July, our pitching will be fine. They were 7-2 in his starts from June 5th until July 21st in 2007, and he had an ERA of 3.60 in 55 innings.
What has KK done in his past 4 starts? Do you really think that’s an accurate “showing” of what Medlen CAN do? If it is, do you think Bobby will continue to run him out there? We DID NOT have ANY options for pitching in 2007. This year we do. (N8)
No, I don’t think he’s that bad, but I’m not expecting much better than what we’ve seen out of JoJo and Morton either. And if there are better options, then why aren’t we using them?
However, as I stated before, KK has come around and as long as he keeps it up, our staff is set REGARDLESS of what the 5th spot in the rotation does (and certainly Glavine, Hanson, Medlen or Morton can give us SOME decent starts in the 5th spot, right? (N8)
Okay, let’s go back to 2007 to examine just how SET we are right now with our top 4 starters and how much it matters what the fifths do. They were 11-9 in Buddy’s starts that season as a fourth starter after June 1st. They were 6-4 in Kyle Davies starts as a fourth starter until June 1st that season. Combined they got a 17-13 record that season when their fourth starters started. The record of the Braves when the top 4 starters started that season was 74-52, a 59% winning %. They were 10-26 when the fifth starters started, a 27% winning %. This season they are 21-16 when their top 4 starters start for a 57% winning %. They are 2-4 when they don’t, a 33% winning %. History is repeating itself N8. Again, if there are better options down there in the minors or on the DL other than the usual suspects who keep giving us a 33% winning %, it’s about time to see them, or it’s time to trade for one, and stop repeating the same pattern
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:10 pm
But I agree that Heyward isn’t going to see the Ted anytime before September 2010.
nolie
May 24th, 2009
11:11 pm
Don’t be surprised if Heyward is called up at roster expansion in Sept. If Braves are in the thick of the race Sept. they could always use an extra bat. (Rock On)
If you mean this year, I’ll be very surprised.more likely AFL
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:13 pm
Yeah, I’d expect to see Heyward, Freeman, Locke, Johnson and Rohrbough in the AFL this autumn, nolie.
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:13 pm
nolie
I agree with your earlier post (it was around the 7th inning). Kelly is a horrible lead-off hitter, I can’t believe Booby put him there, either! His best position is on the BENCH!! Or on another Team!!
nolie
May 24th, 2009
11:15 pm
Braveheart, haha. I don’t think I’ve heard JFK called Jack, but then again who knows? I mean, there are so many flippin’ Kennedy’s it’s hard to keep up (Roman Gal)
Jack,Bobby & Ted. Jack is a very common nickname for John though perhaps not as much anymore. Ted or Ned for Edward a lot too
RHR
May 24th, 2009
11:16 pm
Heh. No problem cabraves. Still not as bad as …uh…. krotchy’s.
Gonna be one of the last times i use THAT nickname btw
cabravesfan
May 24th, 2009
11:19 pm
RHR-
probably a good call on that one
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:20 pm
Roman Gal, wouldn’t Kelly’s best position be next to Francoeur on that plane to Monrovia?
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:24 pm
Steve, you’re right! You know what, while we’re at it we should send Gimper Jones and fringe player Yunel Escobar with them! Brent Lillibridge will be perfect to take over for E-suck-bar!!
Bay Area Steve
May 24th, 2009
11:25 pm
Great names on the blog tonight.
Informative to read…and I don’t even have to skip an MFin09 post (or 279 MFin09 posts).
Lone exception: I had learned to trust a Braveheart post, but today, I think I read him trying to reason with Coach. Can one really believe a guy who thinks he can reason with Coach?
David O'Brien
May 24th, 2009
11:26 pm
Rock on: Can’t see them adding Heyward to the 40-man roster in order to bring him to majors in September. Can’t see that at all. He’ll probably get called to Double-A at some point in second half, possibly not long after All-Star break.
Chop Chop
May 24th, 2009
11:27 pm
P.U.-nel Es-blow-bar
richbrave
May 24th, 2009
11:30 pm
MOYLAN = Too much, too soon.
Choppinmama
May 24th, 2009
11:30 pm
En Francais, John is Jacques……. English with a Southern accent pronounced “Jack”……. maybe an explanation.
Can anyone come up with a Richard that was such a Dick in ancient history that it stuck as a nickname??
David O'Brien
May 24th, 2009
11:30 pm
Dwight Howard just got totally screwed by the official on that call. LeBron’s already getting calls that Michael didn’t get until he was 6, 7 years into his career.
LeBron’s unbelievably good. Doesn’t need to get ref’s help on a play like that. Clean block by Howard. Absolutely clean.
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:30 pm
Roman Gal, we can easily stow Esco away on a ship to Malaysia because we’ve got leadoff hitter extraordinaire Diory Hernandez aboard now! World Champs babay!
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:31 pm
Chop Chop
[dies laughing]
David O'Brien
May 24th, 2009
11:32 pm
cabravesfan: you shoulda come up the coast for the series. then again, it’s mid-week and people do have to work.
Bravos will be down your way before too long.
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:34 pm
The best position for Kelly, Francoeur, Anderson, and Schafer would be on the plane sitting next to Richie Valens, Buddy Holly, and the Big Bopper.
That’s not cool, man…
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:34 pm
Where’s Gregor Blanco?! He’s needs to get his phanny up here and take Sch….
(Can’t joke about Schafer…it’s immoral!)
David O'Brien
May 24th, 2009
11:34 pm
Choppinmama, is Richard Nixon ancient enough? No? Oh, well….
Bay Area Steve
May 24th, 2009
11:35 pm
Who’s knockin’ my boy Esco?
Between that 11:27, and that Kennedy post, I may have to revoke my Chop Chop for Blog HOF position. At least bubd is back.
Tell me I’m missin’ something Chop; you don’t want to trade him for Peavy, do ya?
winterville
May 24th, 2009
11:36 pm
DOB
Yea and that fouled out Howard. That was a joke call and even live speed it wasn’t close to being a foul. The refs in the NBA are so bogus. At least they tend to suck for both sides. The superstars get waay too many calls though.
bravos2249
May 24th, 2009
11:36 pm
I could see a trade with Oakland or Tampa Bay. Tampa needs relief pitching, and Oakland because they aren’t going to get as much for Holliday as they thought….Not saying we’ll get Holliday, but they are the most likely team to trade anyone.
Bay Area Steve
May 24th, 2009
11:36 pm
Sorry Chop, just found the sarcasm…I’m not bright.
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:37 pm
Or would you rather have them make like the historical Valens and throw them to a mob of angry Goths?
cabravesfan
May 24th, 2009
11:38 pm
DOB-
if the series was a weekend, I would have been there- I love San Francisco and have family in the area. That being said, I seriously considered driving up for tomorrow’s game anyways, if it had only been at night…
Capt Caveman
May 24th, 2009
11:40 pm
How long are we going to have to rehash the Tex trade with Texas?? Everyday there are posts about what we “LOST” in that deal, and I say SO WHAT?? The Braves have almost
2 decades of trades that were heavily weighted in our favor as far as results. I guess it’s easier to harp on the negative and just forget about all of the positive. Sorry to say it, but jsut b/c Fred McGriff may have set the Braves (and the press box) on fire when he arrived doesn’t mean that every big bat we trade for will have the same big impact.
If baseball were played like a computer game then what would be the fun? I have seen and played on teams that were counted out before a game or series even started and ended up winning and playing superbly in their effort.
I don’t even read the trade scenarios that keep getting posted on here, especially when the poster forgets that real teams don’t make trades the same way your fantasy league does. I mean, really, didn’t this flawed and supposedly undermanned team just sweep the team with the best record in the American League. Well not anymore thanks to us.
The American League East is considered the best division in baseball and the National League is handling them pretty good. I’m not a big stat guy but I’m sure someone on here has the record for the interleague games.
Someone?? Anyone?? Bueller?? Bueller??
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:40 pm
nolie
Ted or Ned for Edward a lot too
Hmm…I’ll have to remember that when I’m daydreaming about Edward Cullen.
Choppinmama
May 24th, 2009
11:41 pm
Gosh, Jerry H, gettting a little hostile in the late hours, are we? It’s only baseball dude, unless you put down some late $$$ on Toronto tonight. Still no reason to wish harm to some young players who have their whole careers ahead of them.
Or are you a graduate of the same school as the 5th graders who made the movie “6 Ways To Kill Piper”, a 6th grader?? (shooting, poisoning, throwing off cliff, suicide by hanging – no plane crash, though)
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:42 pm
I know of a guy (true story) that is a urologist with the name….Richard Tapper. I sh!t you not.
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:43 pm
How long are we going to have to rehash the Tex trade with Texas??
Oh, Salty!! I miss you so!! Come save us from our misery!!
Bay Area Steve
May 24th, 2009
11:44 pm
How good has O’Flaherty been?
I woulda bet somebody else’s hard earned cash that Logan woulda got this chance. Waivers? We got this dude for nothing.
He’s the bullpen MVP. Ok, no he’s not; first, no such thing; second, wilymo’s boy has been awful good.
nolie
May 24th, 2009
11:45 pm
I gotta think making Schafer the opening day starter and sticking with him through his troubles should build some goodwill between the player and the organization…I hope…(STEVE OH)
maybe, but(Damn Braveheart) I think for the most part when FA time comes around that “good will” makes next to no difference. Follow the money. Damn few Chippers in the world. Just not believing it. and if they delayed career starts become more regular throughout BB how POed can your player get? Nah, sorry I’m not buying it . Clubs moan more about the costs inherent in arb than they do about FA. plus you get the advantage that for the most part the players last season is likely to be much more valuable than his rookie one with added experience.
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:45 pm
Steve,
An angry mob of Goths? How about an angry mob of Twilight Fan-girls?
richbrave
May 24th, 2009
11:45 pm
richbrave
curtis jones:
I catagorize MATT DIAZ as one-third of a hitter. When he had to be used as an everyday player, his batting and fielding both suffered as did the team. BOBBY likes to use him in special situations and as a starter against left-handers because he literally rakes them. But that’s what he is, and COX uses him admirably. What we need is an all round hitter. GARRETT ANDERSON and JEFF FRANCOUER are rounding into shape, but too slowly, and are jeopardizing the season in the process.
There may be too many new parts to this team for its ultimate success this year. Chemistry requires time. And the resulting well-oiled machine may not be truely seen until the 2010 season.
A new and prolific bat is called for either as a lead-off man or in the power hole. OF is the least productive offensive component, and logically dictates the area where improvement should come.
Bay Area Steve
May 24th, 2009
11:47 pm
I can’t quite tell whether Capt Caveman has played minor league ball before. Sometimes, it seems like he might have…’tis subtle.
Steve from OH
May 24th, 2009
11:47 pm
nolie–hence the “I hope.”
Roman Gal–well, either way, they’re screwed…
Roman Gal
May 24th, 2009
11:47 pm
One of my friends old teachers husband’s name was Richard Head. Another one’s name was John Ben Gay. Hah!
Gil In Mechanicsville
May 24th, 2009
11:47 pm
who is curtis jones????
Jerry Holcombe
May 24th, 2009
11:47 pm
Choppinmama, You are a democrat, aren’t you? Generally, it’s difficult to find a liberal with a sense of humor.
Choppinmama
May 24th, 2009
11:48 pm
DOB: not ancient enough, but we can thank him for the alliterative adjective “Tricky”, though.
Jerry Holcombe
May 24th, 2009
11:52 pm
There’s listing in Alpharetta for a chiropractor names A. Aachen Bach.
nolie
May 24th, 2009
11:57 pm
Can anyone come up with a Richard that was such a Dick in ancient history that it stuck as a nickname?? (Choppinmama)
several of the English Royal Richards were dicks in the figurative sense. Richard III was a notorious scoundrel and a Shakespearean villain.
Braveheart
May 24th, 2009
11:57 pm
BAS, sorry to disappoint you, what can I say? I’m a sucker for an argument with the Dakotas (N8 & Coach). When Dakota Fanning gets old enough, I’m gonna give her a piece of my mind as well because she’s been annoying me for years as much as our Dakotas have been …….
Gil In Mechanicsville
May 24th, 2009
11:57 pm
Funny thing on how many people have given up on Jeff Francouer, folks should remeber that in the bad old days, right after the earth cooled and I was a young guy, kids like Frenchy did not even make it to the bigs until they were about 27 and they had played thousands of games in the minors to make all those mistakes and learn from them.
So many people seem to expect a 19 year old kid to perform like a seasoned veteran and for a seasoned veteran to play for league minimum. if baseball were so easy, we would not always be searching for “The One”….
Braveheart
May 25th, 2009
12:00 am
several of the English Royal Richards were dicks in the figurative sense. Richard III was a notorious scoundrel and a Shakespearean villain. (Nolie)
Nolie, ye ole ba$tard, it must have been rough when you were growing up under such oppressive English regimes
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:01 am
Speaking of Diory Hernandez, it was almost a relief to get that first throwing error out of the way today. I just kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting for it. I can’t believe he didn’t get one yesterday with all those chances.
N8
May 25th, 2009
12:01 am
So Braveheart, what EXACTLY (and whom) are you suggesting they go get?
Don’t tippy-toe around it. Who (in your best guess) is available, and who would it take to go get them?
If you even remotely suggest giving up Hanson or Heyward, you need not answer, because there isn’t but a handful of people out there worth taking the gamble of trading those two away.
I’d do Halladay and Lincecum (with 5 year extensions on their contract at around 10-15 million per year) even up for Hanson. If not one of those two, we’re better off keeping him and taking our chances.
Same goes for Heyward. Pujols, maybe Josh Hamilton straight up. But other than that? Not worth the long-term possiblity of being burned by it. Unless of course those guys want to sign on longterm at a discount. Then I’m interested. Perhaps Arod, with the yankees picking up about 18-23 million of his salary every year left on the deal?
For the record, I’m coming around a bit to the possibility that KK might be alright in the 4th or 5th spot in the rotation.
But from your take, is it safe to assume that you think it’s 8 million wasted dollars per year over the next three seasons, and he should have not been signed?
Considering that Smoltz is almost ready to start it up (and even if he only lasts a couple of months – Hudson is near as well), I think investing 5 million in Smoltz might have been “less risk” than giving 24 million to KK (who I think will eventually end up on another team, or in our bullpen – maybe not this year – but eventually).
But I’m not about to open the Smoltz nonsense. But I have this funny feeling that after he dominates for Boston over the summer, Braves fans are gonna get all fired up about it again.
Having Smoltz in the “quasi” 5th starter spot, would have been perfect for him, and a shot in the arm for the team. Especially, since it’s take Glavine almost as long to get back into the fold.
But no matter how much we agree or disagree about who or what amount of pitching this team needs or doesn’t need. Not much you can do to convince me that this team doesn’t need a RH bat in the middle of the order.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
12:01 am
Nolie, ye ole ba$tard, it must have been rough when you were growing up under such oppressive English regimes
Ha!
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
12:02 am
Went to see my Army Dad graduate from a college in Ft. Leavenworth years ago. One of the graduates was Col. Frankenstein. Can you just imagine? poor guy in boot camp.
Jerry: uh….ok….sense of humor…..nope, still don’t see it, no matter how I voted. Guess you joke about Roberto Clemente and Thurman Munson all the time. Hilarious.
Braveheart
May 25th, 2009
12:04 am
Choppinmama, You are a democrat, aren’t you? Generally, it’s difficult to find a liberal with a sense of humor. (JERRY HOLCOMBE)
Yeah, that Brit Hume is a friggin’ laugh riot
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:04 am
nolie
They probably wouldn’t have been that way if they’d had vibrating beds. Heck, if everyone had vibrating beds, we could finally have world peace…assuming the Braves trade or release Francoeur and Bobby retires.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
12:06 am
DOB, no I haven’t gotten to all that. Wasn’t part of the deal as far as I knew. Just trying to give you a breather and did a darn good job of it if I say so myself. Even wrote one of your favorite words, “seriously” and “dude” a few times.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:08 am
N8
I would trade Heyward straight up for Braun or Longoria. Ok, everyone go get their torches and pitchforks…I’ll be hiding behind that rock over…Hey, Look at that!! [runs away again]
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
12:08 am
Roman Gal: I thought the same thing about Diory yesterday. Put a new guy in the game, the ball goes to him more than their fair share, kinda like a heat-seeking missile that finds the new guy where ever he is on the field. I’d be happy if #2 waits ’til late in the season though.
N8
May 25th, 2009
12:11 am
“When Dakota Fanning gets old enough, I’m gonna give her a piece of my mind as well because she’s been annoying me for years as much as our Dakotas have been …” Braveheart
Better to annoy somebody, than have them ignore you, I guess, huh?
I must also note, that all along, I wasn’t sold (nor demanding) that this team contend this year. Those of you willing to concede the future talent to “make a run”, with what you seem to think is a flawed team, are the ones fooling yourself and setting your sights too high.
So, while Braveheart hopes that Wren doesn’t repeat the same mistake of assuming we have enough pitching. I hope he doesn’t repeat JS’s mistakes of assuming that this team is only a player or two away from winning the WS, and gives up 5 prospects for a year and a half of another choke artist like Tex.
I’ve stated that a RH power bat in this batting order might be the difference between making or not making the playoffs. I stand by that. This division is weak, and it is one of the few that we CAN remotely think about taking. I don’t think we’ll win the WC if we don’t win the division.
And even IF we get to the playoffs, this team is much too flawed, and lacks the speed and “small ball” ability to do what it takes to win in October. Don’t give me the 3 good pitchers at the top of the rotation either. In the 90’s we had the three BEST “top three” pitchers for almost a decade, and didn’t do squat in WS titles.
The ONLY way I give my blessings to Wren trading possible stars of the future away, is if it CLEARLY makes us the WS favorite. Which is not going to happen.
Which is why my vote is on trading a mid-level prospect for a consistent yet unspectacular RH batter. Somebody “like” Xavier Nady. Yeah, I realize he’s hurt. NOT NECCESARILY him. Somebody LIKE him.
Ride it out. See what happens. Use Medlen, Glavine Hanson and KK in the 4th and 5th spots. And give em hell in 2010.
Wide Right
May 25th, 2009
12:12 am
anybody know how tyler flowers is doing this year? just curious.
TnBrian
May 25th, 2009
12:15 am
Roman Gal, why would you do that? How does anybody know Heyward won’t be the next Hank Aaron or Andy Marte? I feel if a team is willing to give you Braun or Longoria straight up for Heyward then they believe JH can be better.
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
12:16 am
Sorry Bay Area Steve, I only speak from my perspective and experience, if that bothers you I don’t know what I could do to fix it.
I just feel like there is a lack of talk on here from a players perspective. Everybody seems to have a quick fix solution on here but nobody ever takes into account that players are humans and not machines. What happened yesterday is not guaranteed to happen tomorrow.
It’s just the way I talk, it’s not meant as some sort of put down. Well, unless I’m speaking about COACH, in which case it is. LOL
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:17 am
Wide Right,
Flowers is having a decent year. Kid’s already got 33 walks!!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=flower001tyl
Choppinmama
May 25th, 2009
12:17 am
DOB: No interesting travel stories to relate about this cross-country voyage? Any TSA agents using the naked x-ray machine on you this trip?
I’ll check back with you in the later a.m. Am taking my lousy sense of humor and the still-warm glow of the 3-game sweep to my boudoir. A bientot.
Steve from OH
May 25th, 2009
12:18 am
Wide Right: .256/.440/.444 with 5HR in AA.
richbrave
May 25th, 2009
12:23 am
DOWN ON THE FARM:
CHARLIE MORTON has his fourth solid start in a row. Encouraging sign. I’ve never known him to do that since he hit last year’s radar thanks to DOB’s visit to the ARIZONA FALL LEAGUE. Picked up his sixth win against two losses. 7.0 IP, allowed 4 H, 1 ER on a gopher ball, hit a batter, but had a DP behind him, 0 BB, 4 SO and lowered his ERA to 2.91. Faced 27 batters, seven ground-outs and 10 flys (wish it were the reverse), 105 pitches, 75 strikes (70%).
Manager DAVE BRUNDIDGE practicing to replace BOBBY COX by being ejected by HP ump in the first inning. Great relief work by PEREZ (1.17 ERA) who earned his fourth hold, and VALDEZ (1.69 ERA) who secured his ninth save.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:25 am
TnBrian, I think Heyward will be really good. I think the likelihood of him becoming the next Marte is slim. But, will he be as good as Braun already is? I don’t know. Jason Heyward will be good, but don’t kid yourself into thinking he’ll be the next Babe Ruth. I’m a pretty big prospect hugger, but some people’s expectations for this kid are so ENORMOUS! If that trade were to happen today, then I’d probably do it. A year or two from now? Probably not.
But, we all have our opinions. And honestly, I really like Heyward.
Mark
May 25th, 2009
12:25 am
The best position for Kelly, Francoeur, Anderson, and Schafer would be on the plane sitting next to Richie Valens, Buddy Holly, and the Big Bopper.
Good frickin’ Lord is this blog circling the toilet.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
12:25 am
I won’t be sold on this team until it clinches a playoff spot. After that, I won’t be sold on its ability to win in the postseason. If the team makes it to the World Series, I won’t be sold on its chances of winning. If it wins the World Series, I’ll be sold.
I don’t have high standards.
richbrave
May 25th, 2009
12:26 am
Mark:
Swisher material all the way.
Capt Caveman
May 25th, 2009
12:27 am
CHOP CHOP — thats great, you’ve become a “Cubs” fan.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
12:27 am
I find that Holly/Valens/Bopper post amusing. That’s about as morbid as you can get about baseball players. It’s all in fun. Some of you damn liberals can’t take a joke.
richbrave
May 25th, 2009
12:30 am
Chop Chop:
You said it all girl, “I don’t have high standards.”
David in NY
May 25th, 2009
12:32 am
DOB,
This is Lebrons 6th year. I can’t believe it’s been that long. I do agree that Dwight got screwed there.
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
12:32 am
richbrave,
You said it, girlfriend.
Roman Gal
May 25th, 2009
12:33 am
Oh, dang! Glee finally finished downloading. That was faster than expected.
nolie
May 25th, 2009
12:36 am
nolie–hence the “I hope.” (STEVE OH)
yeah I know, but….I was working on perfecting that technique that Braveheart was discussing the other night. I still have a ways to go
RHR
May 25th, 2009
12:51 am
WAit what? Chop chop is a girl?
Chop Chop
May 25th, 2009
12:55 am
Apparently so, RHR. I’m just playing along.
JD
May 25th, 2009
12:57 am
WAit what? Chop chop is a girl?
So’s Run Heap Run.