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Alternate Universe
May 21st, 2009
5:52 pm
Was that an alternate universe statement?
Lineup:
1. Rafael Furcal SS
2. Mark Derosa 2B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Mark Teixeria 1B
5. Jason Bay RF
6. Jarrod Saltalamacchia C
7. Andruw Jones CF
8. Ken Griffey Jr LF
9. Jake Peavy P
what could have been?
For that to “Lineup:
1. Rafael Furcal SS
2. Mark Derosa 2B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Mark Teixeria 1B
5. Jason Bay RF
6. Jarrod Saltalamacchia C
7. Andruw Jones CF
8. Ken Griffey Jr LF
9. Jake Peavy P
what could have been?
“What could have been,” assumes all those moves could have been made! They could not have.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
5:53 pm
Thanks DOB for talking alot so far today! J/k Braves FAN 2478
Seriously, is this in code?
Mixxo
May 21st, 2009
5:54 pm
Dave – I know chief, I was jus’ messin’
nolie
May 21st, 2009
5:54 pm
[em]Peavy[/em] (WW)
replace the brackets with < etc. I can’t show both or it will disappear
TnBrian
May 21st, 2009
5:54 pm
Medlen will be nervous in the service for an inning or two but he’s obviously talented enough to get through it. You’ll be alright Medey… we won’t bash you too much if you struggle tonight. You are making your MLB debut after all. Hey, he could be reading this, or preparing for the biggest night of his life.
Nick C.
May 21st, 2009
5:55 pm
cphizzle, I get what you’re saying about Dye being a little old to trade for, but I think for our situation, that is almost an IDEAL situation. I don’t know what Dye’s contract status is, but he immediately upgrades our OF power, which is something we are in dire need of. Plus, he’s a right handed bat, something else we could use in the middle of our lineup. It’d be awfully nice to be able to throw Esco, Kotch, Chipper, Dye, and McCann out of the top 5 of our lineup spots every night. I think it’d be even better if we swapped Kelly with GA, had McCann hit cleanup, then threw Dye in the 5 spot, but the guy’s not even being talked about as a possible trade option for us at this time, so I’m not going to waste too much time thinking about where he’d hit in our lineup already!
Anyway, Dye’s age only helps us if his asking price is REDUCED because of it. We don’t necessarily NEED a long term option in the OF, we need a guy whose reasonably priced, that has 2 to 3 years left on their current contract. That should bridge the gap to the days when Heyward, Schafer, and Gorkys in the OF. If those guys reach their maximum potential in the majors, it’ll give us one hell of a combination of pop and speed out there, which is perfect for today’s style of play (post (somewhat) steroid era). We don’t need someone like a Matt Holliday, who doesn’t seem to be the same hitter he was in Colorado, taking up a big chunk of our payroll for several years, when we’ve got talented young guys coming up in the near future. We just need a bridge.
Alternate Universe
May 21st, 2009
5:56 pm
To the Question about the 40 man roster…..didn’t the Braves have a couple of vacant spots on the 40 man? Don’t think they have to do anything other than add Medlin.
sportsmandh
May 21st, 2009
5:56 pm
DOB
don’t let the peanut gallery get to you, you’re doing a fine job
Nate from NCState
May 21st, 2009
5:56 pm
Yeah I know.. thought it was interesting though.
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
5:58 pm
ABravesFan
They may have put Omar on the 60-day DL..I think with that move you can add someone.
nolie
May 21st, 2009
5:58 pm
Wasn’t even trying, just copied and pasted….is that all you have to do to put a link up? (Macon)
yep. just copy the link and paste it here
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
5:59 pm
IN WHAT UNIVERSE WOULD ANYONE WANT SALTY INSTEAD OF BMAC!
COMMON SENSE PEOPLE.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
5:59 pm
Infante’s gonna have surgery tomorrow morning. Probably out at least two months.
KC
May 21st, 2009
6:00 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan, to answer question, no, i missed whatever the conversation was the other day about lineup postings. Nevertheless, dude… I was simply asking a question. Wasn’t pissing and moaning about anything.
Why do you feel the need to piss and moan about other people’s posts?
Doug
May 21st, 2009
6:01 pm
Geez – you make Infante sound like a geezer! He’s 28 or 29 and just about the only exciting player in the infield. He hits, fields and doesn’t make bonehead baserunning mistakes like the guys on the left side. I think we are really going to miss his meat-and-potatoes play.
Nate from NCState
May 21st, 2009
6:01 pm
Guys settle down… it was a lineup of people that used or could have been on the Braves.. except chipper… holy tomato…
i’m starting to feel like DOB must feel..
FaninFaytown
May 21st, 2009
6:01 pm
i appreciate the lineup early like a lot do. but honestly getting mad over not having it 3 hours before a game? come on now. what exactly does it change for any of us here.
ABravesFan
May 21st, 2009
6:02 pm
Thanks.
Just counted the number of players listed on the official Braves site, even including Medlen and Hudson (on the 60 day DL), the Braves only have 39 players on the 40 men roster.
pryguy
May 21st, 2009
6:02 pm
DOB
Any rumors floating around in regards to trades? Dye, Sizemore, DeRosa?? All speculation of course, just wondering what you may have heard through the grapevine.
I. Suppose
May 21st, 2009
6:03 pm
Boy, isn’t everybody glad we didn’t pay to get Raul Ibanez?
Who needs his 15 HR and 40 RBI?
Certainly not the Braves! We’ve got Matt Diaz, Jeff Fraudcoeur, and Garret Oldmanderson holding down the corner outfield slots.
That Frank Wren really knows what he is doing.
Mixxo
May 21st, 2009
6:05 pm
WOW! Ozzie G. seemed pretty calm after that 20-1 shellacking by the Twinkies.
Nick C.
May 21st, 2009
6:05 pm
I don’t get that “what could have been” lineup either! First of all, we gave DeRo EVERY chance to succeed at the ML level, but, for one reason or another, he never panned out with us. While a change of scenery really did help him, I like Kelly’s youth and talent (when NOT hitting leadoff) all the more. I can promise you that if DeRo was in the everyday lineup this year, there would be MANY a Braves fan complaining about it every day! Teixeira wanted $180M contract, and the Yankees were WILLING to go as high as it took to get him. That’s a bad situation for any team, including the Braves (when they’re NOT owned by Ted Turner), to be in. I don’t even know where the Jason Bay thing came from. I guess the RUMORS that he’s who we were INTERESTED in last year, before we became sellers at the deadline rather than buyers? Salty was a great prospect, and looking back, we would have been better off NOT making the trade for Tex, as he brought us no postseason appearances, and it’s looking more and more likely every day that nearly EVERY one of the players we gave away for him will be solid ML contributors, and some of them even all-stars. But, even if we kept him, he would either have a 1B next to his name, or he’d have been dealt for another every day first baseman, at some point, because he’s as blocked a prospect as we’ve ever had, with the start McCann’s had to his career. Mac’s the best catcher in ALL of baseball, so I’m 100% positive he’d be starting ahead of Salty in our lineup. Andruw hit barely .220, and got $36M to play 2 years in Dodgers, who eventually decided they’d rather pay him that money to play somewhere ELSE. I’ll take Schafer, the promising youngster, any day of the week. Sure, Andruw’s swing has apparently been solid so far in Texas, but we don’t have Texas’s hitting coach anyway, so whose to say the results would have been the same here? Griffey’s been worse this year than GA has been, besides the fact that I think he’s played every day so far. And he’s never been a Brave either. Why not just list Manny Ramirez in LF???
Nick C.
May 21st, 2009
6:09 pm
Has Sizemore ever really been listed as possibly being available this season? IMO, if we could trade Schafer and some smaller pieces for Sizemore, or really anybody besides Hanson or Heyward, he’s EXACTLY what we need in our lineup.
Wouldn’t it have been nice if we’d have kept Jo Jo in the minors all year, and he’d have racked up some solid numbers down there like some of our other prospects are this season? That way, teams would have been more likely to believe he still had a lot of talent, but just didn’t realize it last year, his first in Atlanta, and could have perhaps been happy to see him come their way in a trade package! Now, I’m sure all GM’s know he’s had ample opportunity to play for Bobby, and still has gone nearly an entire calendar year without registering a W, and that he’s likely a Quad A minor leaguer. What a SHAME!!!
kirkinga
May 21st, 2009
6:09 pm
Steve from OH, you are still holding on to this? Really? Wow!
Well lookie, you said TP was an “awful hitter”. I said he was not and cited his career .270 BA and his seasons with the Braves that included an MVP.
I said that I used his BA because in those days sabermetrics weren’t widely accepted. You then expanded the conversation to include OBS, and OPS, which means more than what kind of “hitter he was, at least to me.
Now I appreciate that you’ve found yet another obscure white paper you feel tends to support your ideas, but I don’t accept the authority of the people you select. I don’t want to hear from economists when I’m talking baseball., just like I don’t bring an architect into court as my lawyer!
As fort empirical evidence, well I asked you for some and you still haven’t provided it. Since you are still holding on this pointless topic, I’d appreciate you providing the empirical information requested of you. I assume you are intellectually honest, seeing as you’re all empirically based and stuff.
And as far as sabermetrics are concerned. I wait until it has been established that evaluating and putting together a team using sabermetrics produces more wins and championships than more conventional methods.
Now are you going to provide the numbers I asked for or are you going to keep b.s.’ing bud?
Wins and champuonships, that’s why we play the game. That is the empirical holygrail in sports. Everything else is speculation.
cvbraves
May 21st, 2009
6:09 pm
Goldenglove002
May 21st, 2009
5:23 pm
I remember someone telling me that he was a third player involved in the trade (I knew it was Gorkys and JJ). So if not where’d Diory come from?
…believe Diory was signed by the Braves in 2002 as an unsigned free agent.
Nate from NCState
May 21st, 2009
6:10 pm
Nick C.. i really can’t believe you just typed an essay on what took me about 4 mins to come up with.. really.. that’s how much thought i put into it. i thought it was cool to fill out a lineup of people who used to be or could have been on the braves. i like the players we have now, really. it was a criticism.
and Jason Bay was about to be traded to the Braves before the Pirates GM nixed it at the last min.. i would have liked that deal
cvbraves
May 21st, 2009
6:10 pm
Make that
..…believe Diory was signed by the Braves in 2002 as an undrafted free agent.
Nate from NCState
May 21st, 2009
6:13 pm
it wasn’t a criticism…
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
6:15 pm
I. Suppose
He plays in a bandbox…while all have not come @ home. I’m sure his numbers at home are better.
Louisville brave
May 21st, 2009
6:16 pm
dang Im happy KJ’s not batting leadoff…i had the worst feeling bobby was going to put him up there again…losing omar is devastating-as we are already paper thin on offense- but as DOB said-is part of the game…hopefully we can sustain the loss but its going to take KJ hitting in the .280’s(and in the middle/lower part of the frigging order dingus!!!) to do it…i had a dream last night that a 40 something otis nixon came back to hit lead-off…i think i woke up before i got to see how he fared
Nate from NCState
May 21st, 2009
6:17 pm
Let’s get this game going I’m ready to see the kid pitch
Carpe Diem
May 21st, 2009
6:17 pm
Apparently Peavy would rather play for Ozzie than Cox! The man has spoken and its time to accept it Cox lovers. —JEFFY321
hi Jeffypoo. These are the kind of spiteful, childish comments that are the cause of you having a total lack of cred on this board.Ignorant little pissant.
varoadrunner
May 21st, 2009
6:18 pm
{em}italic{em}
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 21st, 2009
6:18 pm
Here is wishing Kris Medlen a successful debut tonight.
varoadrunner
May 21st, 2009
6:18 pm
oh well, clearly I did not understand
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:19 pm
Uh, I was simply trying to offer an answer to your question from a few weeks ago. They say that teams payed money for batting average before Moneyball came out, and as little as a year after the book came out, even with the “inertia” of previously signed contracts, teams had adapted and players began to get paid for OBP. No need to be thick. I’m not trying to prove a point one way or the other. I’m presenting well-researched information, with plenty of “meat” to support it. Just because you can’t wrap your brain around them ain’t my fault. As for the numbers–they’re there. Go to a library who subscribes to JSTOR and look up the article I cited for you. I can’t make it any more clear than that. It’s literally right there. You are blinded by your opinions. I mean, how can you ignore those kinds of numbers? I used to think the way you did, believe me, and I just couldn’t ignore that much empirical proof.
As for the World Championships thing–there have been only four World Series’ played since 2004, or about the time when the saber stats started to come into wide use (or thereabouts). The Red Sox (who ARE sabermetrically inclined) have won two of the 4 world series’ since then. But still, it’s too small of a sample size to draw conclusions from. So you’ll have to wait. Or, better yet, if you refuse to believe what I’ve shown you, you can do your own regression of BA vs. win% and OBP vs. win% in excel and see the results for yourself.
Carpe Diem
May 21st, 2009
6:19 pm
P-Town Brave – The logjam in the top of the order is because of Gimper Jones. He refuses to bat cleanup because he wants to maximize plate appearances. (I guess he cares more about himself than the team. —JEFFY321)
another example of idiocy hard at work
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:20 pm
I’ll second that post, Coach!
Louisville brave
May 21st, 2009
6:21 pm
has anyone heard the sidekick from “bubba the love sponge” do his deion sanders imitation? It’s friggin hilarious…sounds just like him
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:21 pm
And I find it extremely funny that friggin’ economists can grasp simple stuff like OBP and OPS (which really aren’t that complicated at all. I mean, is it the acronym? Seriously?) but people who have been obsessed with baseball for their entire lives can’t even do so. Unbelievable.
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:23 pm
voadrunner:
Use < and then use the reverse symbol.
Random
May 21st, 2009
6:23 pm
And here we see a little more cognitive dissonance from Jeff321:
4:56 pm: “Yeah, making sure Chipper is “comfortable” is way more important than putting more wins on the table! Isn’t Chipper a grown man? If he’s such a HOF type player then why can’t he switch to clean up?
5:14 pm: “Which can be partly blamed on Cox for his stubborn “KJ for lead off” fetish. The guy doesn’t like hitting lead off. Which is why his numbers are much better batting lower in the order.”
You just blow this siht out your butt without even reading it, don’t you? Let alone thinking about it for half a second before you discharge.
And as for your “Chipper cares more about himself than the team” bile, in addition to the several examples of Chipper’s putting the team before himself provided by Thrillhouse44 — renegotiating contracts, deferring money, voluntarily moving to LF (”jettisoned”, my axe — you’re an FN jackaxe, you know that?), which cost him several ASG appearances — Chipper also did already move to bat clean up so that Gary Sheffield could bat 3rd in 2002 and 2003. And his numbers suffered.
“He refuses to bat cleanup because he wants to maximize plate appearances.”
You’re the one and only Make-It-Up-Boy, aren’t you? You have no more idea whether Chipper “refuses” to bat 4th than you would as to why. You’re just a flat out fabricator, huh? You just make siht up whenever and wherever you want.
Idiot.
varoadrunner
May 21st, 2009
6:23 pm
Kirk – I’ll enter into the discussion. Except for a couiple of seasons, TP didn’t hit all that well, but was a “big hit” guy for the Braves and at a time when the Braves needed some leadership, he provided it. He was a valuable Brave.
But, my question to you…..How do you rate him as a hitting coach?
varoadrunner
May 21st, 2009
6:24 pm
itlaic
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
6:24 pm
sportsmandh: Don’t worry. Regardless of what my tone might be, that stuff is white noise, man. Trust me. Nothing more.
Oh, and Infante’s not on the 60-day DL. He’s on 15-day DL. They could put him on 60-day DL later if they decide there’s no way he’ll be back inside that time frame.
varoadrunner
May 21st, 2009
6:24 pm
wow, thanks Steve
now how about BOLD?
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:25 pm
use “strong” instead of “em”
MFin04 (Bennett, Buddy, and Cox Have to Go!)
May 21st, 2009
6:26 pm
“You can do your own regression of BA vs. win% and OBP vs. win% in excel and see the results for yourself.”
LOL, that cracked me up. I’ll get right on that. Be back in a few days.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
6:27 pm
Talked to Diory during batting practice. Kid seems calm. Said he’s excited, but not nervous, because he played with all these guys during spring training. He’s tight with Prado, that was easy to see. Prado immediately showing him the ropes, how this and that’s done.
Steve from OH
May 21st, 2009
6:28 pm
Well, apparently you’ll have to, because the current one isn’t yielding the desired results…
Shane
May 21st, 2009
6:28 pm
Steve. Keep fighting the good fight with sabermetrics. Its proven that they win and teams ignore them at their own peril
Every Cloud has a Silver Lining
May 21st, 2009
6:33 pm
Omar Infante hurt, NOT Chipper Jones or Brian McCann or Deker Lowe or Jair Jurrjens or Yunel Escobar or Javier Vasquez or Rafael Soriano or Mike Gonzalez or Casey Kotchman…….
Doc Holiday
May 21st, 2009
6:33 pm
Return of Tim Hudson Scheduled for August
By Howard Megdal [May 20 at 8:01pm CST]
Tim Hudson, recovering from Tommy John surgery, believe he can rejoin the Atlanta Braves sometime in August, according to Mark Bowman of MLB.com.
“I feel really good about where I’m at right now,” Hudson said. “I haven’t thrown breaking balls, splits or changeups or anything like that. But how I feel right now, it’s hard to think that it’s going to take me three months to get ready to pitch in a game.”
Hudson could encounter a logjam when he returns, between starters Derek Lowe, Javier Vazquez and Jair Jurrjens, not to mention prospects Tommy Hanson, Kris Medlen and the old standby Tom Glavine.
But the real question is this: just how well would Hudson have to pitch in the season’s final month for the Braves to pick up his $12MM option? Hard to imagine anything short of a Greinke would lead the Braves to do so. They have, as an alternative, a $1MM buyout.
LKS
May 21st, 2009
6:34 pm
I know I’m in the minority but I really hate seeing Esco bat leadoff. For some reason, even Joe mentioned it the other night, he feels batting leadoff means he has to hit at the first couple of pitches. I just think he would do sooo much better later in the lineup. He is our best hitter right now. Why bat him when nobody else is on or in scoring position to drive in the runs? I just don’t get it. Yeah he hits into double plays but Frenchie is right on his heels for the lead on the team for that. I would much rather take Esco’s production in Frenchie’s spot with the double plays than what Frenchie is doing thats for sure.
Doc Holiday
May 21st, 2009
6:34 pm
Why arent we going after DeRosa?
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
6:34 pm
Did they seriously give Medlen Boyer’s tainted number…oh geesh.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
6:35 pm
While doing scoutbox and looking at Roy Halladay’s day-by-days, came across one of the more remarkable streaks I’ve seen in some time: Halladay has earned a decision in 26 consecutive starts, going 20-6 with a 2.57 ERA and five complete games in that stretch since June 30, 2008, and pitching at least seven innings in 21 of those 26 games.
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
6:36 pm
Oh, and he’s 10-3 with a 2.52 ERA in 13 road starts during that period.
Every Cloud has a Silver Lining
May 21st, 2009
6:36 pm
OBP matters.
Batter Average Does Not.
A .225 hitter with a .400 OBP and a .500 slugging percentage is helping your team WAY MORE than someone hitting .310 with a .315 OBP and a .350 slugging percentage.
CorkylikesBeer
May 21st, 2009
6:36 pm
Tony Dungy is the man!
MFin04 (Bennett, Buddy, and Cox Have to Go!)
May 21st, 2009
6:37 pm
Is Bowman saying they won’t have Hudson back next year? You’d think the Braves would want him back?
That Teixeira Trade Again....
May 21st, 2009
6:38 pm
Matt Harrison’s last two starts: TWO COMPLETE GAMES (all 9 innings)
Braves’ “great” Starting Rotation: ZERO COMPLETE GAMES ALL SEASON THUS FAR
AustinBrave
May 21st, 2009
6:41 pm
Just seen on ESPN Utley and Ibenza homered again. Utley 11 homers -Ibenza 15 homers, Howard 10 homers. If they had pitching they would have left us in the dust. We need a big trade. Maybe Hanson for Adrian Gonzales.
kirkinga
May 21st, 2009
6:42 pm
Steve from OH, first, I’d like to co-sign Lew’s 3:43 pm comment. I think it was perfectly stated and you’ve just keep reinforcing that point.
Now, as for this idea that: And I find it extremely funny that friggin’ economists can grasp simple stuff like OBP and OPS (which really aren’t that complicated at all. I mean, is it the acronym? Seriously?) but people who have been obsessed with baseball for their entire lives can’t even do so. Unbelievable
Well some of us find it really friggin funny that yoy would cite economists, you know, the follks who didn’t see the economic meltdown coming which is supposedly their area of expertise, but want to be taken seriously on baseball matters? Friggin funny indeed!
Still waiting on some requested empirical information. I don’t call that “thick”, I call that asking for information from someone who holds himself out to be a repository of such information. Why won’t you provide the information, it’s really simple what I asked for no?
varoadrunner, the comment made was that he was an “awful hitter”. It wasn’t about his coaching. We all know that TP is a whipping boy here and I don’t go along with it. So I asked Steve from OH, for some additional information which he so far has not been willing to provide.
If you want to bash TP, go right ahead, you don’t need to jump into this conversation to do it.I will note however that your evaluation of TP is pretty close to what I said about him. Strange huh?
cabravesfan
May 21st, 2009
6:44 pm
That Teixeira Trade Again….
If you are going to judge a pitcher by the number of complete games he throws…just don’t. It’s not a very useful stat. Johan Santana has yet to throw a complete game this year and only threw 3 all of last season. Does that mean he’s sub-par?
JerseyGil
May 21st, 2009
6:44 pm
DOB…So He’s Due…to have a bad Outing
Yo-Momma..
May 21st, 2009
6:45 pm
“The Chicago Sun-Times is reporting that Peavy has officially vetoed a trade to the White Sox.”
So much for “he hates Cox.”
BravesFan4Life
May 21st, 2009
6:46 pm
Nice to see that Esco is batting leadoff, and Kotch is #2.. Also nice to see KJ down in the order where he will perform better..
I hated to see Infante go down like that.. What would the Rockies do if we broke Helton’s hand?
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
6:47 pm
That Teixeira Trade Again
Um…Look up stuff before you comment cause the dude gave up 5 runs ( 3 homers) in 5 innings.
cabravesfan
May 21st, 2009
6:47 pm
Matt Harrison is also 4-3 with a 4.71 ERA and a .291 Avg against…but hey, he’s got 2 complete games!
Shane
May 21st, 2009
6:47 pm
AustinBrave If our guys got to play on that Little League field they would have more homers.
As long as they play in that park they are always going to have guys with 40 hr and winning the MVP.
StingerSplash
May 21st, 2009
6:47 pm
Put Erk in the Hall of Fame!
Oops. Sorry. Wrong blog to comment on.
I knew Jurrjens’ numbers were good, but day-yum!
Since no one is threatening to run away and hide with the division (like the Dodgers are doing in the West — AMF San Fran, San Diego, Colorado and ‘Zona), and no one likely will, since every team has just enough flaws to prevent that, the Braves can stay right in there until:
Hudson gets healthy.
And they trade for a bat down the stretch. Because they’ll need one. Shoot, they need one now.
But the bullpen — aside from O’Flaherty, Mr. Scowl Soriano and Gonzo — kinda needs some help, too. Hope Moylan can get straightened out soon. If he doesn’t … ugh.
Tom O'Hawke
May 21st, 2009
6:49 pm
Braves’ fans, I’ve been thinking
(honest, I have)
We’re a bit thin defensively. We could really use a back-up for CF. It wouldn’t hurt if he had a decent arm, so he could back-up RF, also. He, preferably, should bat right handed. Ideally with some pop. The Braves can’t afford much, so his salary has to be low. He should be someone that isn’t being used every day, so we wouldn’t have to give up too much to get him. He should be playing with a team that could use some pitching (all we have). Who am I talking about? Pass the envelope, please ….and the winner is … ANDRUW JONES!!!!!
….and the band starts playing, “Happy Days Are Here Again”.
Doc Holiday
May 21st, 2009
6:49 pm
That Teixeira Trade Again….
We needed TEX……..we were in the race, but you are right…………….2 complete games………….OUCH!!!!!!!
McFann :Ô:
May 21st, 2009
6:49 pm
Just stopped by for a second…
MFin04–
I am in love with the RBI double (the more RBI, the better!), but yeah, I’d take both.
TennesseePaul
May 21st, 2009
6:49 pm
“For now, it’ll be up to KJ or perhaps Escobar to handle the leadoff role. I’m guessing Kelly’s going to be the primary guy there for the time being, unless he just falls on his face”
From where I’m sitting, KJ has already fallen flat on his face in that role. Keep him lower in the order. I’d rather see Yunel in the lead off spot… even Kotchman. Anything but Kelly.
That Teixeira Trade Again....
May 21st, 2009
6:50 pm
Um…Look up stuff before you commen
See; May 8, May 14.
Complete games do matter. If nothing else, it shows Bobby Cox is one of those sissy managers who yanks pitchers when they’re going good just cause they hit the arbitrary number of 100.
Shane
May 21st, 2009
6:51 pm
Matt Harrison isnt all that good. thats why they let him go. Salty really isnt either.
The jewel in that trade was Elvis Andrus. I would like to have him back.
MFin04 (Bennett, Buddy, and Cox Have to Go!)
May 21st, 2009
6:51 pm
Bobby has tried a bunch of complete games and seems to get burned leaving the starters in too long. Happened with JJ I think and Hudson a few times I remember.
Shane
May 21st, 2009
6:51 pm
Complete games dont matter. See: Santana,Johan
David O'Brien
May 21st, 2009
6:52 pm
Apparently, Medlen fever hasn’t taken hold of Atlanta just yet. Because it’s either a late-arriving or very sparse crowd.
AJC SUCKS
May 21st, 2009
6:52 pm
alot of bitching on this blog
Couch Tater
May 21st, 2009
6:53 pm
“Are we the team of the 90’s? Well, even a huckster like me wouldn’t go that far.” – Stan Kasten, April 2, 1990 Sports Illustrated.
Here’s a link to the article. Oh, and note Avery’s ERA at Richmond.
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1137056/1/index.htm
AndyC
May 21st, 2009
6:53 pm
Nate from NCState, you would really rather have Saltalamacchia rather than BMac? Really?
Shane
May 21st, 2009
6:53 pm
Salty is hitting .260 with 3hr OBP .306 ( Thats terrible). He is David Ross minus the defense
PWHjort
May 21st, 2009
6:53 pm
N8,
One thing to consider is the fact that our defense has been god awful behind Vazquez but much better behind Lowe. .731 defensive efficiency behind Lowe and .676 behind Vazquez. And Lowe has a 37/20 K/BB ratio while Vazquez has a 73/14 K/BB ratio. Maybe Lowe’s results have been a LITTLE better (not really, Vazquez has the better ERA 3.39 to 3.58), but Vazquez has pitched better.
Mort
May 21st, 2009
6:54 pm
alot of bitching on this blog
Says “AJC SUCKS”.
Jen in GA
May 21st, 2009
6:55 pm
i dont go to the games cause i spend $150 on directv to get ALL of the games… why would I wanna spend gas money hotel money food money and whatever else it takes to get to Atl. from where I live at!!
bravos2249
May 21st, 2009
6:55 pm
That Teixeira Trade Again….
Apparently you can’t read. I didn’t say they don’t matter. I said look up your stuff. In Harrison’s last game he only pitched 5 innings, gave up 5 runs ( 3 homers).
PWHjort
May 21st, 2009
6:55 pm
No reason to put Infante on the 60-day DL really. If he goes on it, that frees up a 40-man roster spot, but then you just have to designate someone when he returns. Plus we still have a free spot or 2 (anyone?).
kirkinga
May 21st, 2009
6:56 pm
Put Erk in the Hall of Fame!
AMEN!
AJC SUCKS
May 21st, 2009
6:56 pm
yeah just call it like i see it… Alot of people on this blog just bitch alot..
Heath (Cleveland)
May 21st, 2009
6:56 pm
This just in….fish tacos and nice weather with women in bikinis strikes again…Peavy decides to stay on a last place team instead.
Mort
May 21st, 2009
6:57 pm
Elvis Andrus is hitting .268/.305/.411 in 2009 in a hitter’s park.
I think Matt Harrison is, to date this season, doing better. Again, especially considering the ballpark.
That Teixeira Trade Again....
May 21st, 2009
6:58 pm
Apparently you can’t read. I didn’t say they don’t matter. I said look up your stuff. In Harrison’s last game he only pitched 5 innings, gave up 5 runs ( 3 homers).
He made another start since I last looked. I get it. Get over it.
Goldenglove002
May 21st, 2009
6:58 pm
Can’t wait to get this game started and see Medlen pitch. I’m skipping studying for my final tommorow to see him.
I also hope we get up to a big lead early, maybe give Hernandez a shot later in the game. He desrves some credit, he got called up. He actually could have a major effect on some of Wrens trading. If he’s good, then it opens the trade options right back up in the MI.
Jeff321
May 21st, 2009
6:58 pm
Ahhh, now I have to retract my statement about Peavy wanting to play for Ozzie instead of Bobby!
bravefaninok
May 21st, 2009
6:59 pm
ESPN is reporting Jake Peavy has declined the trade to CWS
JerseyGil
May 21st, 2009
7:00 pm
Pat Vendetti…Swithpitcher…Did Anyone heard about him….Low ClassA Pitcher that he swith lefty/Righty at the Monment.
AJC SUCKS
May 21st, 2009
7:00 pm
Thanks for the Breaking News bravefaninok