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AustinBrave
May 22nd, 2009
2:08 pm
If you look at MLBTraderumors.com people think they may trade Adrian Gonzales. The only comedy here is the Braves front office thinks we have enough power.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:09 pm
Austin Brave –
What power do we have? Georgia Power?
Renegator
May 22nd, 2009
2:09 pm
Doc Holiday:
I’ll take the Braves getting shut out for the second consecutive game and say it will be 7 – 0 Jays.
Chuck
May 22nd, 2009
2:11 pm
All you people that are dogging Anderson’s lack of range need to remember that he’s coming back from some pulled muscles. I’ve got a quad barking right now and the dang thing is taking forever and tweaks easy. I can bat, throw, and field in one place, but when in comes to running I don’t go more than 75%. Could be why Anderson’s range has been so limited, and why it looks like he’s not hustling down the line to beat out grounders. And that sick look on his face sometimes may be the “dang, I don’t feel worth crap, and I’m in front of new fans” instead of “I don’t like it here”. Just a possibility…
cabravesfan
May 22nd, 2009
2:12 pm
AustinBrave-
Are you willing to give up half of our AAA team for Gonzalez? Starting with Tommy Hanson? Because that is what it would take
Willy Wally
May 22nd, 2009
2:12 pm
I’m just glad that Bob Schieffer lived long enough to see his great grandson play centerfield for the Braves
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
2:12 pm
Chop Chop,
You are wright! All is wright!!! In Wright we trust!
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
2:13 pm
MLBTR says that some other GM thinks the padres should trade adrian gonzalez. thats not a rumor. there are alot of GMs who think san diego should trade gonzalez….to them!
AustinBrave
May 22nd, 2009
2:13 pm
I never said we had power. WE NEED POWER. We have the pitching but no help after that.
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
2:13 pm
Efrim,
My thoughts exactly.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm
Halladay’s line
Halladay 9 IP 3 H 1 R 1 BB, 7 SO
Chop Chop
May 22nd, 2009
2:16 pm
I agree, Willy Wally.
Also, why is Garret old? He needs to work on that.
Paul
May 22nd, 2009
2:17 pm
Goldenglove002 about your post about peave all I got to say is that your a moron!!
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:17 pm
AUSTIN -
The only comedy here is the Braves front office thinks we have enough power
THis is what I based my “Georgia Power” statement on.
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
2:17 pm
WW,
I thought our CF was Billie Joe Shaver’s son?
Chop Chop
May 22nd, 2009
2:18 pm
Also, why is Chipper older than Garret? That’s a problem.
Goldenglove002
May 22nd, 2009
2:20 pm
Why thank you Cattivo. Not really sure whats so funny about sharing a serious (and in my opinion knowledgeable) idea based off of rumors that have been floating around. Maybe you think that the Braves shouldn’t be involved with Peavy, I don’t think they need him. But most analysts have seemed to be in agreement that the Braves are the best stocked to make a trade where the Padres would get what they are looking for. if you give Peavy to a third team who wants him using the braves prospects, I’m sure some team would be willing to move a bat out.
And I’m also looking at ways to keep Peavy out of the East. I’d put money on the fact that the Mets and Phillies need Peavy more than almost any team in baseball.
TRobb
May 22nd, 2009
2:23 pm
Our young pitchers all seem to be overrated. Medlen was throwing 88 last night until he completely lost the strike zone. Makes me wonder if Hanson’s all that or just another in a 15 year history of profound pitching disappointments.
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
2:23 pm
DAP,
The statement that Quentin is off limits is more true than false, but if they’re getting a young pitcher of similar value under similar contract terms, they’d have to at least explore the possibility. I think it is highly unlikely that they’ll move Quentin. I’m more trying to teach people to not over value your own players (cabravesfan in particular).
Random
May 22nd, 2009
2:24 pm
MFin04 (Teacher, I Have to Go!) (1:50 pm): “Kotchman is one of the worst first baseman in production in the NL.”
You’re exaggerating a bit. He’s at least middle of the pack — 9th in hits, 10th in total bases.
I agree that the OF is more in need of fixing.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
2:26 pm
Does anyone know how the pay works when a a minor leaguer comes up? Do they get a prorated amount of the league minimum for the time they are with the big club and then go back to their regular minor league contract pay when they go back down?
cabravesfan
May 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm
PWHjort-
I don’t I am overvaluing JJ.
Shaun
May 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm
Rob Neyer writes, “Really, Atlanta Braves? You’re really going to keep running baseball’s worst outfield out there, night after night? You really believe that Jordan Schafer is ready for the majors, and you really believe that Jeff Francoeur is going to come around any day? Really?”
I can sort of understand Schaefer as he’s second on the team in walks; has a respectable .342 OBP; and is a spry, young man who seems to play solid defense. He may be the Braves’ best option in center.
Francouer however has 589 major league games under his belt and is at .267/.310/.429 for his career. What’s worse, Schaefer is less than 1/5th of the way towards Francoeur’s career walk total in just under two months in the majors. Francoeur should be in the minors until he runs out of options or until he actually shows he can avoid outs on a consistent basis in Triple-A.
18 Wheels of Love
May 22nd, 2009
2:28 pm
Levity for the Weekend Series with apologies to The Drive-By Truckers
Bobby Needs a Drink (to the tune of ‘Daddy Needs a Drink’)
Bobby needs a drink to deal with all the losses
To deal with all the hurting to keep from getting tossed
Bobby needs a drink to calm down the bosses
To execute his game plan on moving runners up
Bobby needs a drink to keep players playin’
To compensate for KJ who’s got nothing going on
Bobby needs a drink so Roger fix one quick
Pour it nice and strong with your blue alternative road jersey on
Bobby needs a drink to make sense of the bullpen
To hear through the fans screaming and the no smoking sign turned on
There ain’t nothing in triple A like the roster I wrote out today
Put that blue alternative road jacket on and enjoy a little ball
Renegator
May 22nd, 2009
2:30 pm
Shaun:
Is that park adjusted?
Just bustin on you man – welcome back!
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm
Love it 18 Wheels.
Shaun
May 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm
Kelly Johnson will be fine. He’s a .270/.353/.434 career hitter. They have to keep running him out there everyday and it will pay off.
McFann :Ô:
May 22nd, 2009
2:31 pm
getnathan–
That one run Halladay’s gonna give up…is that a BMac RBI double or a solo homer?
braves70
May 22nd, 2009
2:32 pm
Is our fearless leader, Chipper, still planning on taking a Halladay form tonight’s game?
Also ironic that Cito Gaston was a member of the first Braves team managed by Bobby Cox in 1978. Cito has 2 world championships. Bobby has 1.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:32 pm
It’s not about who wants Peavy, because it’s obvious that teams want him, it’s about who HE wants, because he’s vetoed two trades already
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:34 pm
McFAnn, It’s probably an RBI groundout in the first inning
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
2:34 pm
Hey Shaun,
Glad to see you back!!
All OK with you?
The blog has suffered without you!
Shaun
May 22nd, 2009
2:35 pm
Just got away when the format changed. Guess I got scared off by change. But I’ve seen a psychologist and all is well….only kidding.
Random
May 22nd, 2009
2:39 pm
MFin04 (Teacher, I Have to Go!) (1:52 pm): “What’s your deal? Smoltz is a a Christian and a role model to a lot of young kids and it sends a bad message when he is spreading Christianity yet gets a divorce from his wife, which his religion does not condone. Nothing wrong with that statement, get over yourself.”
I am over myself — just finding it hard to get anything over to you.
My “deal” was a desire to avoid the following:
MFin04 (Teacher, I Really Have to Go!) (1:34 pm): “Shouldn’t have gotten divorce. Not very Christian-like.”
Number one, we’re not here to talk about players’ personal lives.
Number two, who are you to say what’s “Christianlike” and what’s not?
Number three, who are you to say that getting divorced is “sending a bad message”?
Number three, who are you to say what Smoltz’ religion does or does not condone?
Bottom-line, who are you to judge here what Smoltz does in his private life?
This is not the venue to get into these kinds of discussions.
So, yeah, there’s plenty wrong with “that statement”.
Take it elsewhere, if you please.
(Thanks, oldschool.)
yeaahh
May 22nd, 2009
2:42 pm
Freddy, good point on your 10:32 post.
Tomahawkin
May 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm
John…
“What’s not to be happy about?– No leadoff hitter– no outfield power–no bullpen- only three starters when a full rotation is five– dull play- lackluster play-dispirited play- obtuse management- bad owner- and often, bad weather. Enjoy!!”
Yea the attendance at the games reflects the product on the field…I’m calling for 20-23K at the game tonight…Barring that the weather clears…
Plain And Simple Our AWFense lives and dies with Chipper being the MVP Caliber Player he was in 1999. If we continue to have Chipper miss 2 games a week we will not even be in the hunt for the Wildcard let alone the division…
So whats the use on spending 22 million last offseason if this AWFense can’t worth a Damn…?
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:43 pm
I think Braves still have chance to win series this weekend with Lowe and Jurrjens going (and Jurrjens pitched 8 shutout innings against them a year ago)
Hillbilly
May 22nd, 2009
2:44 pm
18 Wheels,
I love it. I wrote one a while back about Bob Wickman. I’ve been saving it for you, because I thought you’d appreciate it.
To the tune of “Bob” by the Drive-By Truckers:
Bob goes to Denny’s every Sunday.
Every Sunday that the diner ain’t open.
Bob never bothered having dinner with a trainer, ‘cause
Bob never bothered eatin’ healthy.
He likes to eat a pie or two every now and again.
He always had more malts than he ever had wins.
Bob ain’t light in the loafers.
He might kneel, but he never bends over.
Bob takes care of his Mama.
She’s the only one he lets share his tacos.
He don’t drive anymore so she takes him to the store
And keeps his pantry filled just like he wants it.
He likes to eat a pie or two every now and again.
He always had more malts than he ever had wins.
Bob ain’t light in the loafers.
He might kneel, but he never bends over
Bob still has a big dinner on the road,
Two pizzas dined-in, two more on the go.
He used to see his shoes, now he don’t anymore.
Ain’t none of it healthy. It’s the steaks and the pork.
He figures all any of it’s any good for is keeping
His gut gorged, till there ain’t no fries’n’front of Bob anymore.
Bob wipes out a Lasagna.
It’s a mess but he feels like he oughta.
How big-a mess today, Ask Bob. He’ll say
It’s a big’un and it’s gonna be a lotta.
He likes to eat a pie or two every now and again.
He always had more malts than he ever had wins.
Bob ain’t light in the loafers.
He might kneel, but he never bends over.
AustinBrave
May 22nd, 2009
2:46 pm
What does people think of Hank Blalock from Texas. It looks like they are looking to trade him.
LT- A Blogger
May 22nd, 2009
2:47 pm
With payroll limitations, I don’t see how the Braves could move on Peavy even if they still wanted to. Also, I don’t think Peavy would significantly impact this team.
Not that we wouldn’t have an awesome rotation if we had him- we would. Possibly the best in the entire league. I think we need some bats- which seem to be few and far between in regards to availability.
McFann :Ô:
May 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm
getnathan–
RBI ground-out? Dang, that’s crummy. I want a EXTRA BASE HIT that BI an R!
18 Wheels–
Your song made me think of this FoxTrot.
(Let the record show that it has nothing to do with the fact that the guy plays second base. I just change it to right field, and it’s perfect.)
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm
i think the braves leadoff hitter problem will eventually take care of itself with jordan schafer being the solution. im starting to believe that even with heyward coming up in a couple of years the braves need a good outfielder on a long term contract. if they dont get one through trade this season, they need to seriously consider signing holliday, nady, or bay this offseason.
Paulding Paul
May 22nd, 2009
2:48 pm
It’s like high school on here today.”You’re so not popular”, “we don’t like you”…”oh Hi, we do like you!”. Wasted space, wasted time, b***hy people.
Goldenglove002
May 22nd, 2009
2:49 pm
Good news for attendance. School just got out in Cobb County and I could name plenty of people who are planning to go to their first game of the year tonight. The bad news: They might not be back if the Blue Jays kill us tonight, and Roy Halladay is pitching for the Jays
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
2:50 pm
Hillbilly,
I love it.
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
2:50 pm
hank blalock has displayed alot of power this year, but in a hitters park and he cant play the outfield.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
2:51 pm
Hillbilly I read yours once using Bob’s name and then again replacing “Bob” with “Corky” and “wins” with “hits”.
Goldenglove002
May 22nd, 2009
2:52 pm
Hank Blalock does appear to be available, but I would give up very little for him. The reason he has been able to keep up the good power numbers very likely has a large part to seal with his home park.
If you’re thinking the Braves should pursue him, then you’d be wrong unless he can play OF (Which I’m not sure of). He’s a corner IF, both positions that we don’t need to change at.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm
Austin—
Blalock is a 3b/1b. no room for him here unfortunately
Il Cattivo
May 22nd, 2009
2:53 pm
Goldenglove002,
We have a good farm system and have enough players to offer the Padres – true. We did that and we all know how Towers handled that – like a moron. He is getting way less now than before. After that episode I dont think we are going to and deal with the Peavy thing again.
We dont need Peavy now and so we wont try to get him.
We need to worry about ourselves before we try to stop him from going to the Mets or Phillies. We are not the Yankees and Red Sox playing games to prevent star players from moving there. Besides what do you think the Mets and Phillies have to offer that will get them Peavy?
3-team blockbuster trades do not happen easily. You might point to the Manny-Bay thing but thats different. Boston wanted Manny gone and really overpaid for him to go away. They got Bay in the process. Pittsburgh and Dodgers got something they each wanted. So everyone’s happy. Who is going to overpay for the blockbusters you discussed. You think they really want Soriano gone in Chicago or Lee gone in Houston.
Where do you think we have the payroll to add a big salary?Under Wren’s mattress??
Crawford – Lee – Soriano.
If this was “a serious (and in my opinion knowledgeable) idea” I am quaking in my boots just thinking about your frivolous ones.
Hillbilly
May 22nd, 2009
2:58 pm
Run Heap, Run,…That works, too. Good eye!
Canadaian braves fan
May 22nd, 2009
3:02 pm
Stop with the Peavy BS. He is not coming to ATL, we DONT need him. We need a big bat
concerned braves fan
May 22nd, 2009
3:05 pm
I think MFin04 is 100% correct to call out Smoltz. Smoltz is the one who publicly makes his religiosity an issue so it is ok to comment on what he has said publicly. If he had kept his faith private like many other players, then I could see trying to silence someone from talking about it.
The Bible is clear about divorce, real clear. And Smoltz didn’t have a problem quoting the Bible when he was speaking out against gay people. Everyone was just dandy with him then. Now we find out that he is a hypocrite( no surprise for most gay haters who hide behind scripture), likely a adulterous one at that! It makes me sick. We can comment on what a player says publicly no one has a right to try and silence anyone from doing so. You might think you have so much credibility Random, but you need to get over yourself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That said MFin04 I sure wish you would shut the up! you talk to too much and are really really annoying. I apologies in advance if you are some sick, shut in person and this is your life, but otherwise, you’re an annoying blogger who must be a meth head.
JD
May 22nd, 2009
3:08 pm
Who’s workload would you guys rather have? Chop Chick or Furman Bisher?
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
3:14 pm
concerned braves fan
what a strange, slanderous post.
and out of line, just like MFin’s were.
people have the right to say what they want…but it doesnt mean they should. hopefully these posts will stop.
JD
May 22nd, 2009
3:15 pm
Do you guys really think we’ll be able to trade for an outfielder? It seems like there’s no room. I know everyone sucks right now, but hear me out:
-Francoeur’s sticking around at least until the end of the season because he has talent we all know is there…we just haven’t seen much of it lately.
-Schafer could strike out in slow-pitch, but he’s a rookie, has no experience above AA, and it’s way too early to judge him or get rid of him.
-I don’t see the Braves dumping GA or even making him a backup. Diaz is a good hitter and pretty cheap too. Unless he’s part of the deal.
When we traded for Tex, we had Scott Thorman at 1B. At least that was a no-brainer.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 22nd, 2009
3:16 pm
AustinBrave—If you insist on all your trade proposals (what is this, a fantasy baseball league?), how about bringing up someone that plays a position that the Braves NEED. You know, like an OUTFIELDER. There’s no “Utility” spot in the starting lineup in real baseball.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2009
3:16 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
3:16 pm
I will say this, people who are particularly outspoken about their faith usually have skeletons in the closet. It’s the ones who keep their mouth shut and lead by example that impress me. Ala Matt Diaz (not necessarily on-field though).
Canadaian braves fan
May 22nd, 2009
3:17 pm
why cant we make a trade, we have tons of pitching
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
3:19 pm
If Smoltz and/or his wife weren’t happy with each other.. No sense in faking it. Btw, I don’t appreciate reading church talk on a baseball blog!
beekay
May 22nd, 2009
3:20 pm
Some pent up anger in here today….CBF, take a deep breath dude. I don’t recall smoltz making fun of gays on a regular basis. Do you have the links to his quotes? …..The more this team plays, the more apparent to me that this team will be a + or – 5 games around .500. I can see a late season fire sale that could include Soriano, KJ, JV, GA (if he improves his worth). Let Schafer continue to get through his struggles and lets get Medlin, Hanson and Huddy in 2nd half games as much as possible.
JD
May 22nd, 2009
3:24 pm
Did concerned braves fan really just say “religiosity”? I hope that gets made fun of the rest of the day….like “woose.”
And I’ll throw in my nickel here until someone tells me to shut up…outside of infidelity, the Bible says that divorce is wrong. Bible also says that we’re all broken and gonna screw up at some point, which is why grace is grace.
shut up, JD!
shutting up now
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
3:24 pm
one last thing…a common misconception is that people of faith dont have problems and dont deal with everything that everyone else does.
remember, you have to stand for something in the first place to be a hypocrite.
smoltz is outspoken about everything. why would his faith be any different? and, he still has to live his life, and there will be pit falls. it happens.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
3:25 pm
JD – I’m pretty sure Chop Chick and maybe even Mr. Bisher do other things at the paper besides write on their blogs. DOB will get you for that lol.
As far as Smoltzy’s divorce goes, not one of us knows the circumstances surrounding his divorce, maybe his wife left him…we don’t know. And regardless of what happened it’s none of our business if it falls in line with his religious beliefs or not. That’s for John to worry about, not any of you. Chipper’s private life and subsequent divorce were front and center of this paper for several days when it happened (IMO that was in very poor taste but oh well) so we knew all the details about that but the details of the Smoltz’s divorce weren’t made public here or anywhere else as far as I know and for you, “concerned fan” to suggest that he was having an adulterous affair is just….tacky.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
3:26 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
EXCELLENT timing.
Doc Holiday
May 22nd, 2009
3:29 pm
I also think we are gonna score 1 run………..maybe on a KJ HR……….how about that?
Random
May 22nd, 2009
3:46 pm
concerned braves fan (3:05 pm): “I think MFin04 is 100% correct to call out Smoltz. Smoltz is the one who publicly makes his religiosity an issue so it is ok to comment on what he has said publicly. If he had kept his faith private like many other players, then I could see trying to silence someone from talking about it.
“The Bible is clear about divorce, real clear.”
Oh come on now — the Bible is not clear about anything. YOU may be clear as to what YOU think it means, but there are thousands of other people, thinking just as clearly that it means a thousand other different things.
And this is not the venue for theological discussions — we’re not here to discuss the ten thousand possible interpretations of the Bible. We’re here to talk about baseball (etc). Please tell me how what Smoltz may or may not believe, and how faithfully he may or may not adhere to his beliefs, affects baseball.
As KC might say, this is not a blog for All Things Great and Smoltz, from his baseball to his “religiosity”, from his socks to his breakfast cereal. It’s a blog for all things Baseball, which does not including judging players’ by their various denominations.
“Get over myself” — yeah, sure, right after I get over all the mouthbreathers who want to turn the blog into a pulpit.
“You might think you have so much credibility” — I’ve got no idea where this is coming from. One’s credibility is judged by others, not by one’s self.
(Unless you mean that I credulously believe everything that I myself say, which IS true (mostly), but kinda meaningless. Don’t we all?)
bravesgrl4life
May 22nd, 2009
4:05 pm
1st off, where is the new bloggage, DOB. The article on the Braves page on ajc is still yesterday’s.
2nd, why the heck is Smoltzie’s personal life any of our darn business??? He’s not a Brave anymore, and his personal life is his own. Doesn’t affect us, so why the devil should we be discussing it?
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Catrice Herkstroeter
July 23rd, 2012
4:01 am
I am so glad it was helpful, Jenny. I’m learning as fast as I can and will continue to pass on lessons as we go. Happy Pinning!