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Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
10:29 am
Random, fine post at midnight. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
DOB – Well what a coincidence. Not only does Random cherry pick and use quotes out of context.. But you also pushed the false information about the Griffey signing.
Btw, I’m still waiting on your backstage story about getting punked in the clubhouse by Tim Hudson. I really just want to know if you were sportin’ that leather jacket while this was transpiring.
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
10:31 am
John-And yet the Braves have won nine of their last fourteen with this terrible lineup. They are 2 1/2 games out of the division lead of the Phillies (who all think are a power house team who we’ve beaten 4 of 6 times so far) and 1 1/2 games behind the injured Mets after 40 games. We have a much improved pitching staff and only another 122 games to catch the rest of the division.
As for the weather-yeah that’s something to get bummed about (especially after the drought Georgia has experienced the past couple years) and is definitely the Braves’ fault. But look at the bright side-if you get sick of watching the Braves remain mediocre, you could always go fishing at Lake Lanier, which may actually have water in it again.
O'brien
May 22nd, 2009
10:32 am
This might have been mentioned already, but does anyone know who is leading the league in Home Runs? Isn’t it Ilbanez from the Phillies?
And I see Jake Peavy vetoed another trade. This time to the White Sox.
DOB, The 4th inning was the turning point, but our offense still only had 4 hits, and has been shut out 5 times already this year. What’s Bobby been saying about our offense (or lack thereof)?
Freddy Garcia
May 22nd, 2009
10:32 am
Funny how Chipper gets hurt right before facing an ace again. I’m joking, but he was always blocking me from becoming a superstar.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
10:33 am
BG – here is a video but it only shows the bean from Medlen, which wasn’t as wild as the 3 or 4 pitches before it that went wide left of the plate and to the backstop.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=4673709&c_id=atl
Also includes Helton’s 2 out grand slam…
BG
May 22nd, 2009
10:34 am
Derek – I feel much better now. Thanks!!
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
10:36 am
Jeff321,
Dude, you need to get a grip. None of the quotes that Random took from you were out of context. In each one you were making comments ripping Chipper for something.
If you want to back away from those comments that are posted every 2 minutes during a game, fine, you have then gone from ZERO credibility to NEGATIVE credibility.
It is folks like you and MFin that have made this blog not a fun place to be during the games.
Do us all a favor and SHUT UP!
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
10:37 am
lets hope burnett is on for the yanks tonight. the new yankee stadium has become a joke with all the bombs going out in right field, and the phillies are bringing in that lineup featuring ibanez, utley and howard….hm….
could be a slug fest though, because myers is going for the phillies. either way, that could be interesting game. lets just hope burnett is lights out tonight.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2009
10:38 am
Capt Caveman is correct about the difference in baseball between majors and minors. Coincidentally, Bobby Cox was talking about it with a couple of us a few weeks ago, about how he’s said for years and years to anybody who’ll listen that there should be more uniformity among specs by all the baseball manufacturers who supply balls to the various leagues.
When the Braves send a pitcher down to pitch in a minor league game at spring training, they also send a box of major league balls for the pitcher to use. Can’t do that in “regulation” minor league games, however.
Caveman, only thing I’d question about your theory is that I haven’t heard pitchers say a ball was easier to grip in the minors. I took it to be the other way around in most or all cases. But I’ll see if anyone at the park has thoughts on that today. I will say Medlen and no one else mentioned that as a possibility last night, including Cox, who, as you know, is usually ready with a cause/excuse for any of his pitchers’ troubles. And Cox really likes this kid, too, so I do think he’d have had that explanation ready if he thought it might have been any factor at all.
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
10:39 am
Jeff321- That post by Random was totally accurate. You just don’t like much of anyone or anything, are extremely nasty when you talk about it and you do constantly personalize your caustic remarks. Misdirection and fault finding with DOB ain’t gonna change what is obvious to most of us here-you’re a misanthrope.
The Truth
May 22nd, 2009
10:42 am
Sounds like Chipper is out of the lineup all weekend. Going to be hard to win a division with your two best hitters missing 25-30 games a year(Chipper and McCann). The Mets and Phillies have elite talents that don’t miss baseball games(other than Utley that one year).
RANDOM STUPIDITY
May 22nd, 2009
10:42 am
hipper will not hit the D.L. He will not lead the Braves in batting average or walks.
Tommy Hanson will stay in AAA all season due to Kris Medlen pitching lights out the rest of the year.
The Braves will win the Division, running way with it after getting A-rod in a trade with the Yankees for Casey Kotchman and a bunch of minor leaguers nobody has ever heard of before.
Jeff Francoeur won’t play the whole season in RF, he ends up in LF after switching with Garret Anderson. He will finally turn to Terry Pendleton for advice, and hits .350 with 30 HR’s and 110 RBI.
Javier Vazquez won’t be traded for the big bat the Braves don’t need after the A-rod trade.
Garret Anderson will lead the Braves in HR’s and RBI and get his contract renewed for 2010. He wins the gold glove in RF after showing off his rifle arm.
Jordan Schafer will lead the Bravos in walks while not striking even once after the All-star break.
The Braves will tell Tim Hudson to take a hike, not pick up his option and wish him good riddance. Tommy Turncoat will ride in like the Lone Ranger and save our Braves entire season while Bobby Cox announces his impending retirement on September 1st.
Kenshin Kawakami will finally ask his interpreter to catch relegating Brian McCann to the bench with pom poms in hand.
Derel Lowe will announce his intentions to compete in the iron man in October, quit the team and start training immediately.
Jair Jurrjens ends up winning the Cy Young award afterword and Frank Wren ends up in a psyc ward screaming : Derek Lowe is our Ace! Derek Lowe is our ace! Derk Lowe is our ace!
Terry Pendleton will do cartwheels on the field after he becomes Bobby’s replacement as manager starting in 2010. After Bobby announces his intentions to retire, the Braves go undefeated all the way through game seven of the World Series, winning it all and sending Cox out as a two time WS manager.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
10:43 am
DAP
I’m waiting for Burnett to go on the Disabled List with elbow and shoulder problems.
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
10:43 am
flange1, Lew – Do you two lie much? Random omitted my second statement in the same post about Diory.
He wanted it to seem negative by clipping the part about not judging about his minor league errors.
I will expect a full apology from both of you. Unless of course you don’t care about credibility for bloggers who do this crap for free.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 22nd, 2009
10:45 am
And the difference in size between the baseballs used in Japan and here in the big leagues doesn’t have an impact on Japanese pitchers who make the jump to ML baseball?
HMMMMMMM. Me thinks the blog is catching up.
Random
May 22nd, 2009
10:45 am
getnathan (9:10 am): “DAP — If we re-signed SMoltz instead of Derek Lowe, then Braves would be closer to the Nationals in the standings than the Phillies.”
It never was a question of either Smoltz or Lowe.
Wren’s stated goal was to get 2 proven ML starters other than Glavine or Smoltz.
He was true to his word — he got Vazquez and Lowe (the latter after Peavy and Burnett proved unobtainable). (Kawakami does not meet Wren’s stated criterion a a proven ML starter.)
After Smoltz left is when he signed Kawakami, to fill that hole.
You can see exactly where we are with Kawakami instead of Smoltz.
john
May 22nd, 2009
10:47 am
i usually refrain from posting, but what i just looked at Adam Dunn’s numbers. I’d say his defense is on par with Garret Anderson, and Adam Dunn would have provided some leadership/enthusiasm rather than Anderson. I know hindsight is 20/20, but if we had not signed KK and Anderson, there is your money for Dunn. This team would be much better off. Not much we can do now though…
CB
May 22nd, 2009
10:48 am
Random maybe just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiitle bit looooooooooooonger.
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
10:49 am
Jeff321,
Apologize? to you?
You have got to be kidding!
We have put up with your garbage for 3 months +, you should be apologizing to the entire blog for wasting our time.
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2009
10:50 am
John, regarding your 10:21 a.m. post: So who do you want to blame for the bad weather? The manager? The hitting coach? Ownership? God?
Say what you will, but the Braves are 20-20 and 2-1/2 games out of first place. They have a better record than exactly half the teams in the league and about half the teams in baseball. They are right in the middle of 30 team, record-wise, and as I said, 2-1/2 out of first in a division that’s not nearly as tough as we expected it to be.
Are they world-beaters? Hardly. But are they still in the division race? Undoubtedly. And they have a strong trio atop their starting rotation, which any serious baseball observer will tell you is about the most attractive component you can have if you don’t have an entirely balanced, powerful team. (And how many teams really have that kind of balance these days anyway?)
So let’s not exaggerate and act like you’re watching a team like the Nationals, Orioles or entirely underperforming Indians, all of whom are about 10 games or more under .500 and about 10 games out of first place in their divisions with three-quarters of the season remaining. The Braves have been lackluster (to say the least) at home, and they don’t have much power or speed.
But they are a .500 team squarely in the hunt in their division, and barring injury, they have three starters who give them a good chance to win three out of every five days.
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
10:52 am
Flange1 – I didn’t figure you’d want to admit being a liar.
Who knows, maybe your buddy Lew has enough courage to admit trusting Random’s post as fact?
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
10:55 am
getnathan
lets just hope he destroys the phillies tonight first.
TN Jeff
May 22nd, 2009
10:56 am
Amazed at Ron Gants comments after the game last night as he said that splitting a 4 game series is what you want going into the series. I would agree if that series was on the road. Shouldn’t we expect more from the home team than a split?
Also love it when the Braves don’t hit, the homer announcers rarely blame the anemic bats of the braves but rather give credit to whomever is pitching for the other team.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 22nd, 2009
10:58 am
That is some sick, twisted stuff at 10:42. I laughed till I cried.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
10:59 am
DAP –
I’m torn because I’m a true Yankee hater and wish they could lose all the rest of their games, but I have to root for them this weekend, and hope that we can at least take two of three to get closer to the Phillies.
TN Jeff
May 22nd, 2009
10:59 am
Also, shouldn’t we expect more than a split of a 4 game series at home when playing a cellar dweller team?
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
11:00 am
Jeff321,
Random is a class act. So is Lew. They have both built up credibility here with knowledgeable posts. You, not so much.
I am a liar? For agreeing with Random’s post that you like to constantly rip players?
Sorry guy, go back and read all of those posts again. The tone is all the same, Chipper suxs because of this Chipper suxs because of that Frenchy sux because of this.
You tell people they cherry pick, of the MANY posts that Random copied you choose one that intimates that Chipper has too many errors and Diory’s has more to being not negative?
Dude, you need help…
Or maybe more than a second grade education…..
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
11:00 am
Jeff321-You have no credibility and most of the posters here realize it. Personally, I care so little for your opinions, which are petty, infantile and laden with negativity, vitriol and invective that I couldn’t care less what you think about my own credibility or if I have any at all.
As for Random’s accuracy-Ask the man if I’ve been backwards when I felt the need to criticize what he’s posted. I’ve given him plenty of grief in the past when I thought it warranted (and maybe once or twice when it wasn’t)-not this time though.
You question MY courage? Seriously? This from a person who attacks people hewill probably never meet, never did him harm, never spoke an unkind word about him and who he knows will never come here to defend themselves against your personal attacks? Dude, Misanthrope is the kindest, gentlest word I could use to describe you. Clueless would also work.
richbrave
May 22nd, 2009
11:02 am
Wanted to throw this into the mix for those who didn’t catch it. Night before last, someone on local radio was talking about the MYRTLE BEACH PELICANS and how the ball-park was a notorious pitcher’s pavillion. Despite that, HEYWARD was really beginning to find his way in home games. If that tidbit can be reinforced by others, then you can view pitcher-hitter standards at MYRTLE based on a bias to pitchers. Just wanted the regulars to absorb that info. Needs verification from other sources however.
TN Jeff
May 22nd, 2009
11:03 am
Also, how about that Birthday present the team gave Booby on the field last night.
Head Cases galore
CB
May 22nd, 2009
11:03 am
Jeff no person on the blog knows you on a personal level,I assume, we as a group are telling you that you only use the blog to attack those who are not able or would even want to defend themselves. I would suggest to you sir to just take a time to look at your motivation for these attacks and just take a grip on your own life. I’m sure this would help you if you try hard. and good luck.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 22nd, 2009
11:03 am
20 wins and 20 losses. This team is a direct reflection of the job done by our GM in the off season. He went after pitching and not much else. Frank Wren , you had better get busy on the phone.
crap-wheelie
May 22nd, 2009
11:04 am
Man, I hope Medlen gets another chance. That was brutal. It made me think of Mark Wohlers. Mark was such a great pitcher and then he just lost it. Hope Medlen recovers. For what it’s worth, I thought he really looked sharp in the first two innings. Good luck, kid. I mean that.
richbrave
May 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
BRAVES RADIO catagorized the MYRTLE BEACH PELICANS home-field as a pitchers pavillion. Despite that fact, HEYWARD was really heating up in home games. If that can be verified from other sources, then the regulars here can begin viewing stats relating to pitchers-hitters in MYRTLE with that bias in mind. Just wanted the regulars to have that info if correct.
Canadaian braves fan
May 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
DOB wheres tonights lineup? Just kidding. We have the best pitching in the division, a alck of speed and power and are 500, 2.5 games out. Relax all, Wren did a great job with the pitching, so have faith he will address the power soon
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:07 am
20-20 record,
Yes Braves are in it, but are Braves going to be much more than a .500 team with the current roster, and the inconsistencies from the lineup?
The 14 straight division winning teams rarely split home series with bottom feeding teams like Colorado and Arizona.
richbrave
May 22nd, 2009
11:08 am
Oh, damm. Two posts. I thought I had lost the original.
Willy Wally
May 22nd, 2009
11:09 am
I like what Jair has done this season, and hopefully he can continue it, but I am a bit concerned about the decline in K9 rates, decrease in GB rates, and increase in FB rates this season. The results have been great in terms of ERA, but I’m not sure how much longer it will continue if he doesn’t start King more batter and inducing more groundballs.
Right now, he’s got an insanely high 84.8% Left on Base (LOB) rate. That’s great and all, and as much as we all want to believe it’s a skill to leave that many men on base, it likely is largely luck.
In this decade, the only Braves starters to have a LOB rate higher than 80% are Chuck James in 2006 & 2007, Jorge Sosa in 2005, Horam in 2004, Jaret Wright in 2003. With the benefit of the passage of time, I think it’s safe to say we all now know those guys weren’t anywhere near as good as the results made them look in those seasons.
As starters, Smoltz never had an LOB rate overe 80%, Glavine only had one season with an LOB rate over 80% (1998), Maddux had only one season with an LOB rate over 80% (1995), Millwood never had an LOB rate over 80%, Tim Hudson has never had an LOB rate over 80%, Mike Hampton never had an LOB rate over 80%.
Enjoy it while it lasts, but Jair likley ain’t gonna strand runners out there like this for the rest of the season, especially if he doesn’t start King more batters and/or inducing more grounders.
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
11:10 am
richbrave,
Thanks! I too have heard the Myrtle Beach park is HUGE and is a total pitcher’s park.
I think the wind always blows into home as well..
richbrave
May 22nd, 2009
11:13 am
Did everyone enjoy the glaring difference between AAA and the ML’s last night? MEDLEN losing it after two IP, and HERNANDEZ going 0-1 at the plate. It’s a process gang. Patience is required. Remember ROME wasn’t built in a day – well maybe ROME, GA. but not the ITALIAN one.
moose knuckle
May 22nd, 2009
11:13 am
Lew:
You might have used too many big words
flange1
May 22nd, 2009
11:16 am
Jeff321,
Final post to you.
You are a strange and perturbed person. Does “visions of grandeur” mean anything to you? Is that what the Doctor talks to you about twice a week?
And then you tell Lew you hope he loses his other eye?
this is the same guy that accused Moby Grape of “vicious personal attacks”? And that you only talk baseball?
As N8 would say
YIKES!
Dude, you have got problems…
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
11:16 am
Jeff321-Well, I would guess I’m lucky that you’re not my eye surgeon. Do you even realize that post does nothing more than reinforce the opinion many of us have of you? You’re a mean spirited little sh!t.
Willy Wally
May 22nd, 2009
11:16 am
I blame Governor Sonny Perdue for the rain. Good ole Sonny held his prayer vigils, and three years later God finally got tired enough of watching Sonny’s rain dance, and said ye want rain, it is rain ye shall have, and now it’s been raining for about 40 days in a row
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
11:19 am
Flange1, actually I’m tired of the personal attacks so have decided to join the fray.
Apparently viscous defenders of Cox, Frenchy and Chipper want to get personal. So, I am definitely your man for that. Stay tuned!
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
moose knuckle-You may be right. When trading caustic jibes and bon mots with sub ground level intellects like Jeff 321, monosyllabic words are ordinarily to be favored. Oops. There I go again.
cvbraves
May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
DOB: Great post at 10:50 a.m. Tell it like it is…and even had a little positive or upbeat ring to it.
monty
May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
I agree with BG,
Hey that ryhmes, Medlen did not get pounded. Call him wild, or not sharp or whatever you want in regards to his control because that was the biggest issue last night. The Rockies weren’t kocking down the fence like whoever Jo-Jo pitched against last did. If it wasn’t for his balk in the first inning the Rockies don’t score,and the announcers said that Kochman was not holding the runner and forgot to tell Medlen. Later he made Helton look silly on a changeup which is almost impossible to do to him. Contol issues not pounding. Call it ugly or whatever, just not pounded.
Couch Tater
May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
DOB – I can’t buy that the ball was the reason for Medlen’s meltdown, but it is totally bizarre to me that the Minor leagues wouldn’t have the same specs on the baseball. The time and money spent to prepare a pitcher for the Majors and they don’t even use the same ball? That seems almost as dumb as when the NBA changed the basketball specs with no prior warning.
Rob (from SC)
May 22nd, 2009
11:22 am
Everyone please remember that after Halladay got called up, he did so poorly that they sent him done to A ball to re-do his mechanics. Have patients with our young pitchers
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
11:23 am
Well, I would guess I’m lucky that you’re not my eye surgeon. Do you even realize that post does nothing more than reinforce the opinion many of us have of you? You’re a mean spirited little sh!t.
Lew – I hope you realize that was my utmost intention.
Lew
May 22nd, 2009
11:24 am
Jeff 321-No that comes as a complete surprise to us.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
So in keeping with the spirit of fantasy world trades, who would you give up to acquire Roy Halladay, a bonafide staff ace.
TommyP
May 22nd, 2009
11:29 am
Rob (from SC): We have “patients” at 3B.
Sorry if this has been debated on here but the verbal attacks back and forth left me no reason to continue reading.
This is the point that a lot of GMs evaluate things. Memorial Day. Anyone feel that Wren is seriously looking for a power bat? Or will he wait ’til 7/31?
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May 22nd, 2009
11:29 am
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monty
May 22nd, 2009
11:30 am
I disagree with whoever said the Braves don’t give their good AAA players time enough to get better. I think in many cases BC has bent over backwards giving players every opportunity to perform. Consider Jo-Jo how many starts without a win dating back to last season? 14-16? And bloggers huff and puff wanting him to be sent back down or traded. What about Kyle Davies? Dude was given every opportunity. Same with HoRAm. Most teams would have already sent Schafer back down, consider Maybin for the MArlins. What about KJ and his prolonged slumps, most teams wouldn’t be so patient.
TnBrian
May 22nd, 2009
11:31 am
I QUICKLY scanned through last nights posts and didn’t pick up on anybody mentioning O’Flaherty’s fastball on that guy’s back. Gotta give him some credit on standing up for his team.
Hey, we beat Santana, why not Halladay? Kawakami pitching might be a legit reason why, but he’s had an extra day of rest, so maybe he keeps us in the game for 6-7 innings.
On Chipper, one thing for sure is that he frustrates everyone of us with nagging injuries, and I’m sure himself. But, one thing you can never say about CJ is that the guy doesn’t plays hard. He’s always hustling and putting his body on the line, regardless of the score. That’s why we love him…plus he’s a pretty good player.
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
11:33 am
indians want major league ready pitching for derosa. but, how much do you give up for a utility player with half a year on his contract, to a team that isnt even trying to win this year?
i think it would be a stretch to give them any high rated prospect like medlen or morton. maybe guys like parr, campillo, reyes, bennett, carlyle….but it seems like the indians will be asking to much.
no rumors out there about brad hawpe, sadly. but austin kearns is still out there, and really wouldnt be a bad fit for the braves. hes not the answer…isnt going to put us over the top, but he’s better than our current right field option.
CB
May 22nd, 2009
11:34 am
OK on to other things as Rob said not every pitcher comes up and pitches a brilliant game their first game. I truely feel this was a case of losing his composure- it was an aberation. The young man will have success once he calms down.
TommyP
May 22nd, 2009
11:35 am
Monty: Well said.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:35 am
Bobby DOES give more than enough chances for players to improve bad performances. Look at what he’s doing for KJ, and Bennett. Most managers would have benched and/or released them by now.
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
11:36 am
I’ll bback around game time for an amplified version of negativity tonight!
That said, of course I can’t abandon my positive posting either.
RHR
May 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
but it is totally bizarre to me that the Minor leagues wouldn’t have the same specs on the baseball. The time and money spent to prepare a pitcher for the Majors and they don’t even use the same ball?
THIS. Especially in AA and AAA ball. What is the reason for that? Having a different ball in high school and college I get, but MiLB not using the same balls as MLB makes no sense at all.
TommyP
May 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
DAP: Please tell me you’re joking about Kearns. DOB made a very nice comparison of the career paths of both Francoeur and Kearns.
Robert
May 22nd, 2009
11:42 am
“Cox said they’ll talk again Friday, have to “get to the bottom of this.””
Oh yeah – Donk’s on the trail, lookin for clues. Yippee. Maybe someday he’ll figure out why his diaper is yellow on one side and brown on the other
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:44 am
TnBrian –
Santana’s on the Mets, and you know they have dumb luck against us (except for 2006), and we beat him in his first start against us when he was with the Twins.
We’re not familiar with Halladay, and Braves should try to get him in the offseason
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
11:46 am
tommyp
i am not joking about kearns. he will be a free agent after this year, plays the outfield, has power potential, and is OPSing .761. thats 120 points higher than jeff. thats 100 pints higher than schafer. its 180 points higher than anderson. he has a terrible batting average right now, but sadly, it looks like hed be an upgrade.
but when i think about it…youre right. wren needs to do a big deal if hes going to do one. he doent need to do something that might upgrade us a little bit. if its worth doing, he needs to get a big bat. hawpe, holliday, dye, cameron, ect.
Random
May 22nd, 2009
11:47 am
Jeff321 (10:29 am): “Not only does Random cherry pick and use quotes out of context.. “
There is no proper context for the malicious slurs you sling about like packs of peanuts at a Macy’s parade.
Not even divorce court or MLB arbitration hearings.
Here’s the full comment you were whining about. The second paragraph which I earlier omitted had nothing to do with your bashing of Chipper. (Or did you think that by deferring judgment on Diory you were free to pile on Chipper?)
“Looks to me like Diory already has 9 errors this year.. Which is 3 more than Gimper Jones.
“That said, I’m willing to judge him on what he does in the majors as opposed to his minor league stats.”
Satisfied?
Are these comments “out of context”?
(6:46 pm) “Ha, you assume I could give a F about credibility on a blog.. The only person that needs to be worried about credibility is the guy/gal getting paid to blog, dude.”
(7:47 pm) “Shane, I trust FSNRM more than the hacks on this website. (Except for of course the people paid to blog here.)”
Or these?
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:47 am
DAP -
That’s what I’ve been saying. If the Braves are going to do a deal, it needs to be “splashy” (as much I hate that we would have to do such a deal) but it’s going to have reinvigorate the team and the fan base.
AustinBrave
May 22nd, 2009
11:50 am
If I remember correctly Tom Glavine’s major league start did not fair well. Does anybody have that stat?
TommyP
May 22nd, 2009
11:51 am
What a great interview:
http://www.brewerfan.net/ViewArticle.do?articleId=292
Former pitcher/left fielder/pinch hitter Brooks Kieschnick.
DAP: Kearns seems like he’s on the downside. We need someone to balance out the lineup. This lineup is starting to feel like the ‘85 Cards…..WITHOUT THE SPEED.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
11:54 am
AustinBrave -
I don’t remember the exact line, but I know it was against the Houston Astros in 1987, gave up 5 runs in 2 plus innings
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 22nd, 2009
12:00 pm
Lets see…
20-20 record.
Adam Dunn 12 HR’s 33 RBI and batting .280 compared to Garret Anderson’s 0 HR’s 8 RBI and .240 BA
Kenshin Kawakami’s record of 2-5 with an ERA of 5.73 and Jo-Jo Reyes record of 0-2 with an ERA of 7.00. Meanwhile, Tommy Hanson and Charlie Morton would almost certainly be part of 29 other major league rotations.
My point is very simple, Frank Wren didn’t do such a hot job this past off season. He spent the money , just not where it needed to be used.
O yea, Josh Anderson is hitting .288 in part time duty with 8 stolen bases, the same number attributed to the entire Braves roster.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
12:02 pm
TommyP –
…lol and without Jack Clark
bravefaninok
May 22nd, 2009
12:04 pm
Early this season ,I had no respect for or confidence in Eric O.(was a will ohmann fan ).
But this guy EOF. has not only been lights out for us,after his perfectly place beanball(obviously intentional,yet not intended to kill or mame anyone).What a great pickup & teamate.
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
12:07 pm
coach you have a point. but here’s the deal looking forward…the braves are overloaded on pitching. they need to use it to get some offense from somewhere. the braves need to make some tuff decisions and say good bye to a few young pitchers we will be sad to see go, so that we can get some offense to win games on the ML level.
McFann :Ô:
May 22nd, 2009
12:10 pm
bravefaninok–
Loved it when he beaned that guy! Hoo-hoo! It’s about time!
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
12:10 pm
DAP –
Then who should the Braves give up to get this offense?
David Athens, Al
May 22nd, 2009
12:11 pm
test, good morning all
David Athens, Al
May 22nd, 2009
12:11 pm
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David..............................................(Athens, AL)
May 22nd, 2009
12:14 pm
opps … hit enter by mistake
David..(Athens, AL)
May 22nd, 2009
12:15 pm
Go Braves … talk to all tonight
J williams
May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm
TheThe Truth
Good point about Mac. There in is the reason that you would perfer not to have your catcher in the clean-up spot, because once every 5 days or so, he’ out of the lineup.
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
12:18 pm
getnathan i think the braves should be shopping medlen, parr, jojo, morton, bennett, carlyle, campillo, armas, redmond. put on the hook, and see who bites.
about half of these guys are journeymen, about half of who remains are surely back-end starters…but they are all on the verge of being able to contribute to a major league team.
the braves rotation is set for at least this year and next based on the guys we have under contract. with hanson in the fold, 2011 still looks pretty solid too, so i think its time to deal some of these higher level pitchers we have stocked up. hopefully, for a guy like hawpe who we will still have in a couple of years….
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 22nd, 2009
12:19 pm
DAP, trading which young pitchers?
You mean like we did with Adam Wainwright and Jason Marquis?
OK then, I’m gonna go shoot myself with a rubber band five hundred times.
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
12:19 pm
Hey, Random! I stopped back in to check on replies.
FYI – I commented about FSNRM saying KJ will play some center field. Shane acting like he doesn’t trust FSNRM. Then DOB chimed in with his day late and dollar short blurb about what I already relayed. You dig?
Btw, how do you feel about DOB posting the frivolous Griffey story or getting punked in the dugout by Hudson? Will the AJC hire someone specially to cover Hudson when he comes back? Because I think we know DOB’s worn out his welcome at that end of the clubhouse.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
12:22 pm
Marquis is at best a #3 starter. Wainwright is better than him. I’m not too disappointed about Marquis, but I am about Wainwright.
DAP – I agree with you. Parr, JoJo Reyes, and Morton would be viable options to trade IMO, but to get a Jermaine Dye or a Matt Holliday, I think you’re gonna throw in someone else (ahem Francoeur ahem)
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm
Obviously this, “Btw, how do you feel about DOB posting the frivolous Griffey story or getting punked in the dugout by Hudson? ”
Should be this, “Btw, how do you feel about DOB posting the frivlous Griffey story or getting punked in the clubhouse by Hudson?”
DAP
May 22nd, 2009
12:25 pm
coach you really miss marquis? and its to bad we dont have wainwright, but hes pitched one full season as a starter so far in his career and it was average.
based on the guys we have locked up now, who some of the studs we have coming (hanson) id give up a wainwright or marquis for a division title and a chance at a championship.
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
12:26 pm
Outfielders I’d look at if I were FW (some of these are unrealistic and some would cost a butt-load. For instance, to get Quentin we’d probably have to give up Jurrjens or the like): Shin-Soo Choo, Carlos Quentin, Brad Hawpe, Ryan Spilborghs, Hunter Pence, Jack Cust, Matt Holliday, Chase Headley, Randy Winn, Ryan Ludwick (when/if healthy), Rick Ankiel(when/if healthy), Josh Willingham. Not an inclusive list, just throwing a few names out there. Let the chatter/criticism begin.
Canadaian braves fan
May 22nd, 2009
12:27 pm
Jeff321 if Griffey left because of DOBs report, SCREW HIM. DOB does a great job keeping us BRAVES fans informed
Phil from Alabama
May 22nd, 2009
12:32 pm
PWHjort, I saw you at the game last night! You know, you’re a good looking fella…..
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
12:34 pm
PWH-
Great list, but the ones I would want are Carlos Quentin, Ryan Ludwick, and Matt Holliday. I guess I’m looking for a RH hitter than we can insert in the #4 spot, and causes pitchers to think twice about pitching around Chipper Jones. Chipper (or whoever hits third when he’s hurt) will get pitches to hit. Teams are gonna have to pick their poison, then you got b-mac hitting 5th, Garret Anderson 6th (more suited for that spot at this point in his career) or Diaz. This hitter should make the whole lineup better, and in turn, make our entire team, THEN we can overtake the Phillies and the Mets, and I might dare say, be the FAVORITES to go to World Series in the NL.
PWHjort
May 22nd, 2009
12:35 pm
Uhhhh… No you didn’t. I wasn’t at the game last night. But thanks for the unfounded flattery.
Jeff321
May 22nd, 2009
12:39 pm
Canadaian braves fan – I didn’t want Griffey here either. But, it sure is fun needling DOB about that big blow up. (And of course the Tim Hudson episode which he’s too embarrassed to talk about.)
That said, DOB does a good job on this blog. Yet, he’s surely not the best at the AJC. Mainly my beef is how he likes to get rude with bloggers on occasion. I don’t think its very professional.
getnathan
May 22nd, 2009
12:40 pm
This hitter should make the whole lineup better, and in turn, make our entire team better, THEN we can overtake the Phillies and the Mets, and I might dare say, be the FAVORITES to go to World Series in the NL.
Let the chatter/criticism begin lol
David O'Brien
May 22nd, 2009
12:41 pm
Obviously this, “Btw, how do you feel about DOB posting the frivolous Griffey story or getting punked in the dugout by Hudson? ”
Should be this, “Btw, how do you feel about DOB posting the frivlous Griffey story or getting punked in the clubhouse by Hudson?” — Jeff321
Why is it obvious? Because you spelled frivolous correctly the first time, and we all should know you prefer to have misspelled words in your comments?
By the way, what you refer to as “getting punked” — in the real world, the adult world, we call that getting into a heated argument.
TnBrian
May 22nd, 2009
12:42 pm
I kinda like Quentin between Chipper and Mac…of course, a lot of hitters would look better there than GA. GA is not that bad, but you’d like to see more power out of your LF than what Diaz/GA bring you.
MFin04 (Bennett, Buddy, and Cox Have to Go!)
May 22nd, 2009
12:43 pm
How the heck do we fix this offense? It’s really bad. Soo many guys batting out of position in the order. Escobar isn’t a leadoff hitter and really shouldn’t be used there. Time to put Schafer there. If he sucks there, so what, Escobar ISN’T a lead off hitter.
Too many unknowns in the lineup.
1) Unknown/Schafer
Francouer
2) Kotchman/Unknown
3) Chipper
4) McCann/Does Not Exist Yet
5) McCann/Does Not Exist Yet
6) Escobar
7) KJ
Schafer's Wafers
May 22nd, 2009
12:43 pm
What I would give to watch DOB beat the ever loving crap out of Jeff321….