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TnBrian
May 12th, 2009
10:51 pm
Sherman, two nights in a row now that I’ve been DISGUSTED with…one, those announcers rooting the Mutts on and nit picking at the Braves on freakin ESPN. Two, Reyes laughing and mocking at our pitcher that was shakin up by either the noise or the ump. Is that class and how in the world does he still have a career? I mean, I’d think a pitcher would break his hand every time he steps in the box. I wouldn’t brag about the Mets, I really wouldn’t.
mbatl
May 12th, 2009
10:51 pm
you guys are really funny (though I hope you’re all okay after a May loss).
Last I heard, another game tomorrow, and about 130 to follow that. Later, whiners.
braveshater
May 12th, 2009
10:52 pm
And these scary ass interviewers dont even have the testicles to ask Bobby some tough questions. This whole organization blows ass.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
10:52 pm
Bobby has got to go, he is old and senile. Absolutely too old to manage. He has lost it. And where the hell are JS and Frank Wren during all this? They’ve got to at some point say Bobby you need to retire…or let someone else manage this team…because that game against the Mets was completely mismanaged!!!!
Herschel Talker
May 12th, 2009
10:52 pm
macdwolfpack – you’re dead on. But DOB is a complete homer, would never admit Cox ever does anything wrong, so you’re wasting your breath. DOB will defend him as long as he is the beat writer. I guess he’s talking his book. Cox is a clown. Bennett is a clown. And don’t forget Cox setting Gonzalez for failure by warming him up yesterday. The Braves will never get into the playoffs again under Cox. Give me Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine, and I’ll get you into the playoffs. Cox is the most overrated manager/coach is sports history.
W.T. Sherman
May 12th, 2009
10:53 pm
njbrave….I never asked you to care. I asked you to stop your crying becaue your sobbing is fogging up the blog. Go get yourself some kleenex and wipe your nose and a-s-s in no specific order.
BravesDave
May 12th, 2009
10:54 pm
To me, the problem with this team over the past few seasons is clear. There have been too many players on the Braves that just do not belong in the major leagues.
In 2006, the Braves had guys like Langerhans, Pete Orr, Todd Pratt, Soctt Thorman, Kyle Davies, and Jorge Sosa. These were guys that were either terrible or guys that Cox stuck with for far too long. In 2007, the Braves had Scott Thorman, Chris Woodward, Pete Orr, Craig Wilson, Langerhans, Corky Miller, Kyle Davies, JoJo Reyes, Kyle Davies, Lance Cormier, and Mark Redman at various points throughout the season. In 2008, the Braves rolled with Blanco and his .300 slugging percentage, an awful Jeff Francoeur, Brent Lillibridge, Corky Miller, JoJo Reyes, Blaine Boyer, and Royce Ring.
Granted, there were injuries involved in some of these decisions, but in each season, the Braves and Bobby Cox stuck with players that did not belong in the majors.
Here we are in 2009 and the same pattern is taking shape again. Jordan Schafer, who admittedly made two nice throws tonight, cannot hit major league pitching. Maybe in a year or two, it will happen for him. Right now, he is utterly overmatched.
Also, it is time call it quits with Jeff Francoeur. He is awful, period. He is terrible in RF. His OBP is abysmal. He has no baseball sense. He constantly takes the wrong approach given the game situation. He has no extra base power. He is simply a singles-hitting guy that can’t get on base and has no speed. There is not much use for a guy like the in an RBI-position (RF). Nonetheless, he will most likely play in 162 games this season.
JoJo Reyes and Jeff Bennett do not belong in the majors. Yet, Cox will continue to put them on the mound to guarantee losses for this team. JoJo Reyes hasn’t won in a lifetime. This is getting to Anthony Young-like proportions. Enough is enough. Jeff Bennett is throwing batting practice right now. Enough is enough. There are pitchers in this organization that are dominating AAA hitters as we speak. What are the Braves waiting for??? Another post season filled with golf?
Invictus Mon
May 12th, 2009
10:54 pm
The braves defense has been awesome (minus Johnson and Anderson). Braves Starting pitching really couldn’t be much better. 0-17 Reyes admittedly has had some poor outings, but more than once he has been a victim of poor hitting and terrible bullpin pitching. There is no one out there who can say Reyes, Kawakami, or even Vasquez are as good as or equal to their records. They’re much better and they get screwed every time. I’m now worried about Frenchie out there, he’s the real deal. Whats so frustrating is that these braves and this braves team is good enough to be dominant minus a couple relievers. How does Atlanta expect to recruit quality free agents in the coming years if we keep proving we won’t win for them?
njbraves
May 12th, 2009
10:54 pm
It’s funny how last night everyone said Bobby did a great job, but tonight..he’s old and dumb. Some of you guys are just lost.
Irrational Braves Fan
May 12th, 2009
10:54 pm
TnJeff,
Hence the sarcasm.
bravos2249
May 12th, 2009
10:55 pm
I mean if Boyer got kicked off the team for his stuff…..whose to say bennett won’t. I’d rather have Jojo as a long guy out of the pen than Bennett.
Invictus Mon
May 12th, 2009
10:55 pm
I meant I”m not worried about Frenchie. sorry…
Robert
May 12th, 2009
10:55 pm
“When they lost their best arms, they lost their best chances to win, because Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine in their prime covered up a multitude of sins, the very same ones that plague this team today – poor fundamentals, poor situational hitting, bullpen blowups, questionable lineups, questionable in-game decisions, and an annoying sense of loyalty towards mediocre talent ”
A- frick- MEN my friend.
Dumbfound
May 12th, 2009
10:55 pm
Medlen is good enough to be up here ! Why isn’t he ? I just don’t understand ! We can show these baseball people something. We have pitching talents on the farm like Smoltz, and Avery ready now ! It must be a money thing ! The braves can’t afford the league minumal of $450,000 ?! Why is Bennett still here ?! By the way Bennett the whole met team was laughing at you and it was justified ! If Jo-Jo was not pitching I say hit someone with a 95+ fastball but, not for you Bennett !
Jake W.
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
And by the way I agree with Chipper. Everybody in the world can know the guy is gonna steal the base but you can’t just give it to them. Yeah we put him on base but we made up for it, threw him out and didn’t get the call. That’s a crucial call in a one run game. Just imagine if he had called him out and he has to tkae that long walk back to the dugout in front of all those “lovely” mets fans. The New York media kills him and we have our 4th win in a row.
kirkinga
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
For those insisting on blaming Bennett, which I understand, you really should look at Moylan. I totally get why Bobby left JJ in there. Gonzo and Soriano both needed some rest and with the way JJ was pitching, he was just as good an option as what was available in the pen.
Moylan should have been able to come in and get those last 4 outs of the game. He’s the next guy in line when there’s no Gonzo or Soriano available. There are going to be times when they both need rest and he’s got to be the guy.
On the Mets feed, they showed him laughing it up in the dugout the next inning and I don’t like that one bit.Maybe he needs to be sent down until he’s ready. If he had done his job, we never get to Bennett.
braves70
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
There have been at least two things consistent about the Braves since that 1995 WS: Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones. My question is which one is the bigger loser? Between Bobby’s silly excuses and Chipper’s pathetic whining, I have long grown tired of both.
njbraves
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
Sherman…was that an attempt at humor? Were you trying to insult me? I’m pretty sure you’re too dumb to accomplish either, but keep trying.
Mitchell
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
Sorry Braves bloggers if that was a little strong.
Give me a break just this once.
I’m outta here. Braves Straight Up is on. I freaking love that show more than any person my age should. I wish it was on all the time. Yaay!
Screw it. We got robbed but of course ESPN and the New York papers won’t tell you that.
Peace out.
Robert
May 12th, 2009
10:57 pm
“Bobby has got to go, he is old and senile. Absolutely too old to manage. He has lost it”
Cox has not lost anything. He is managing the SAME as he has forever. He never HAD anything to lose
Invictus Mon
May 12th, 2009
10:57 pm
The braves defense has been awesome (minus Johnson and Anderson). Braves Starting pitching really couldn’t be much better. 0-17 Reyes admittedly has had some poor outings, but more than once he has been a victim of poor hitting and terrible bullpin pitching. There is no one out there who can say Reyes, Kawakami, or even Vasquez are as poor as or equal to their records. They’re much better and they get screwed every time. I’m not worried about Frenchie out there, he’s the real deal. Whats so frustrating is that these braves and this braves team is good enough to be dominant minus a couple relievers. How does Atlanta expect to recruit quality free agents in the coming years if we keep proving we won’t win for them?
Tom O'Hawke
May 12th, 2009
10:57 pm
McFann
Maybe, you’ll see this tomorrow, maybe not. That’s the right attitude! We lost, the game sucks! That doesn’t mean we still can’t enjoy the game. It’s only one game out of 162. Yeah, I know, it was against the Mets. I hate losing to them a lot more than you do(more history). But, it’s a long year. I’m just saying, when you play a team that you really want to beat, enjoy the conflict, as it is progressing. It gives you a rush that you can’t get from too many other sources (legally). You’re very young. The next time this feeling comes over you (excited, nervous etc.), take a second to think about it. Then, try to enjoy it. Maybe, nolie or ncscoots can put it in words, better than I. I’m just trying to get you to enjoy the moment, even in defeat. (Help, guys!, this isn’t the easiest thing to explain. There are so many that just don’t get this.)
LuisG
May 12th, 2009
10:57 pm
Maybe Chipper didn’t homered against K-Rod like many of you wanted him to do (he kind of owes us a win against that K-Rod guy) but still got a hit on a pitcher’s pitch. Yes, that call gave the Mets some momentum, and, yes, Bobby should have removed Bennett against Beltran and bring Soriano. Isn’t he our other closer? Wasn’t he warming up when Gonzo was throwing? Sooo, why, Bobby???? WHY?! Even if he doesn’t take Bennett out before facing Beltran, he could’ve done it when he threw ball one!
braveshater
May 12th, 2009
10:58 pm
Frenchie’s the real deal. What team are u watching my friend.
Robert
May 12th, 2009
10:59 pm
“Give me Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine, and I’ll get you into the playoffs. Cox is the most overrated manager/coach is sports history.”
Indeed
braveshater
May 12th, 2009
11:00 pm
TomOhawke do u really think that was the last game Bobby Cox will blow this year? If he cant manage, it doesnt matter if we play 300 games a year. Whats so hard to understand here.
Braves Fan in N.Y.
May 12th, 2009
11:00 pm
I do believe Soriano was warming up so he must have been available. I was ready to throw something at the TV when I saw Bennett come in the 10th. Bobby, what are you thinking? The guy is a journeyman pitcher who can’t pitch in the clutch. I can only assume that Cox was hoping that Bennett could hold ‘em in the 10th and that the Braves would score in the 11th. Then, he could go with Soriano to save it. But you can’t assume you are going to score. You put your best available relievers out there and use the clowns if the game wears on.
Anderson is horrible–doesn’t hustle, can’t catch, seems disinterested. He shouldn’t have been out there late in the game either. Diaz is no Golden Glover but he’s way better than GA. Bobby blew this one–plain and simple.
By the way, I was watching the Mets broadcast and Keith Hernandez referred to Kotchman as a journeyman first baseman who wasn’t real good defensively. And he gets paid to be ignorant!
Noah
May 12th, 2009
11:00 pm
tough game tonight but then again who would have thought we would beat Santana the night before. And most teams don’t have sure thing stoppers after their top 2 or 3 guy in the bullpen so anything can happen in these extra inning games. Gotta love how McCann is hitting, didnt miss a beat. Going into the road trip most would have been very happy with a 5 win trip and thought that it would be tough to get 5, maybe tomorrow we will end it with 6 wins which would be excellent.
Question: Why does everyone want to bring up the whole farm system to replace everyone at the first sign of trouble, there is a reason they are prospects. You would think seeing Jordan have his struggles would remind us its not easy to just come up and perform at a high level.
cabravesfan
May 12th, 2009
11:00 pm
Tom-
that is why I like you
I know I tend to rant sometimes but I am an eternal optimist…my family always makes fun of me because I refuse to see the negative in most situations…it’s just a game, guys. I hate to lose as much as the next person, but it really is just a game!
Invictus Mon
May 12th, 2009
11:01 pm
Who was left to replace Bennett though? I mean I agree anyone would be better, but I was more inclined to let O’Flahery hit simply because he fanned 1 guy in 3 pitches. I’d have protected the 2 run lead and kept the dominant pitcher in there. There’s no way Bobby didn’t know Gonzales wasn’t going to pull his stuff AGAIN tonight.
richbrave
May 12th, 2009
11:01 pm
TOM:
Well I have many times. The ultimate winner keeps his head while all about them are losing theirs. I like the direction in which our team is headed. I say it’s leading up back to championship caliber baseball.
cabravesfan
May 12th, 2009
11:01 pm
braveshater-
do you have to work hard at being a d*ck or does it just come naturally?
Homer
May 12th, 2009
11:02 pm
The Braves are Rollin huh DOB? Shut up please.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:03 pm
If by some miracle we win tomorrow…we are 1.5 back in the NL East. Funnier things have happened. Maybe Jo-Jo will have a brilliant performance tomorrow. We can only hope and pray.
Chop Chop
May 12th, 2009
11:03 pm
cabravesfan,
I doubt it comes naturally. There’s probably some sort of medical device involved.
Steve from OH
May 12th, 2009
11:03 pm
You tell ‘em, nolie!
Jurrjens was at 90 pitches, gotta leave him in to start the eigth. Don’t agree with leaving Bennett in, but I’m sure Bobby had a reason. Oh, well. Whatever. Glad to see another great start by JJ, the kid is really coming into his own. As for the rest of you whiners [looks at Robert, particularly]…well, I’m sorry that y’all are so miserable that you’ve gotta take what is (I’m sure) one of your favorite things to do and turn it into a big whiny mopefest. I love baseball, win or lose, and I’m gonna go to bed looking forward to tomorrow’s game. Later, ya big buncha crybabies!
oldschool
May 12th, 2009
11:04 pm
Can anyone tell me who pitched for gwinnette tonite and how did they do?
Invictus Mon
May 12th, 2009
11:04 pm
Anyone see McCann having problems catching the ball from JJ for a couple innings there? A couple dropped from the mitt and the passed ball that he really didn’t make much of an effort to block. You think he’s really over his sight problems?
JD
May 12th, 2009
11:04 pm
The ump blew the call, yes, but my goodness…you people are acting like he called Beltran safe, stole $20 from Chipper, and then punched every blogger on here’s mother. It was a close call. I disagree with it, but people make mistakes.
Oh, Braves batters also left 18 runners on base. So it’s not like the Braves were perfect.
varoadrunner
May 12th, 2009
11:05 pm
COME ON BRAVES – DUMP BENNETT – This is becoming depressing whenever he enters the game
PWHjort
May 12th, 2009
11:05 pm
Pitch counts are in parenthesis.
May 5:
Down 2-1, Bobby uses Soriano in the 8th (14) and Gonzalez in the 9th (9). Gonzalez gives up 2 runs and the Braves eventually lose 4-3 after K-Rod gives up 2 runs in the bottom of the 9th.
May 6:
Up 8-6, Bobby uses Soriano in the 8th (15) and Gonzalez in the 9th (15). Braves win 8-6.
May 7:
Up 4-2, Bobby uses Soriano in the 8th (29) and Gonzalez in the 9th (13). Braves win 4-2.
May 8:
Off day for both Gonzalez and Soriano as we were down by multiple runs most of the game.
May 9:
Up 6-2, Bobby uses Gonzalez in the 9th (16). Braves win 6-2.
May 10:
Up 4-2, Bobby uses Gonzalez in the 8th (17) and Soriano in the 9th (12). Braves win 4-2.
May 11:
Up 8-3 with 2 runners on, Bobby calls for Gonzalez to warm up, though he isn’t used.
May 12:
Up 3-2, Bobby uses Gonzalez in the 9th (17). Blows the save, Bennett takes the loss in the 10th.
There’s 2 things you should take from this.
First, the back end of the bullpen is very effective in general. They’ve played a very large part in our recent success. And there is much reason to be encouraged by the bullpen.
Secondly, Bobby Cox is using the back end of this bullpen ENTIRELY TOO MUCH. He’s just completely mismanaged it. I know it’s good and he feels comfortable with it at the end of close games, but they’re relief aces for a reason, you moron. You can’t use them every time you want to. Because, when you REALLY NEED THEM, in the super-high leverage situations, they’ll be unavailable or ineffective. That’s what we saw tonight. Gonzalez has now pitched on 6 of the last 8 days and warmed up on a 7th. Soriano has pitched 5 of the last 8 days. This is just absolutely absurd. There’s a reason Tony LaRussa started using Eckersley exclusively in the 9th when his team is ahead by 3 or less. That’s the time that the opposition needs to score the most. And that’s presumably the time they’re trying the hardest to score. Save your relief aces for then. It’s simple.
On the 5th and 9th there was NO REASON to use Soriano or Gonzalez. When you’re down, you don’t use your relief ace unless he needs to get regular work. When you’re up 6-2, you don’t use your relief ace unless he needs regular work. And there was no reason for Bobby to even get Gonzalez warm on the 11th. With 2 outs and a 5 run lead, I don’t care if the sacks are juiced, you get your 4th or 5th best pitcher on the relief staff warm, not your relief ace.
I’ve been on this blog talking about how I don’t approve of Bobby’s overuse of the back end of our bullpen for a few days now fearing a situation like this would happen. And it did. And we REALLY needed a relief ace. Unfortunately, one was unavailable and one was ineffective because he’d been overused for a week straight.
We need to call up Medlen just to give our relief pitchers a rest.
PWHjort
May 12th, 2009
11:06 pm
“Can anyone tell me who pitched for gwinnette tonite and how did they do?” – Oldschool
Why don’t you just go to their website and look it up yourself? You’d save time and a step.
cvbraves
May 12th, 2009
11:06 pm
DOB: I really like the job you do on the blog, your insight and the articles. Not blogging much now…watching the games…and then coming to the blog after the game to read through all the comments…really hilarious to read the comments, folks changing their comments one pitch to the next, one bat to the next.
Apparently a lot of “losers” on the blog…they don’t like Kelly. Chipper’s too old and gets hurt too much, Anderson is no good, they no longer like Jordan, they don’t like Jeff, many complain about Casey, some even dislike Mac and Yunel, they complain about the bullpen, and they hate Bobby Cox.
But let Bobby or any of the players turn a good play, and suddenly they are on the bandwagon. Most negative group of folks I’ve ever seen…but maybe that’s true of all blogs.
The Braves have a “great” manager in Bobby…and a very good team this year. They are on a 5-2 road trip, they’re within two and a half games of first (and with a win tomorrow, one and a half)…and it is only early May.
Anyway, I truly appreciate all your effort and the information you provide (and the job Carroll does when filling in). Hang in there and keep up the terrific work you do.
Jake W.
May 12th, 2009
11:07 pm
I don’t know why people are counting Jojo out tomorrow, I mean these are the Mets. They found a way to lose with Johan on the mound twice this season by giving up unearned runs. If there is one team out there that can finally lose to Jojo, I would have to say the Mets have the best chance of doing it. These are the Amazin’s afterall.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:08 pm
What is the purpose of AAA? Is it to prepare guys to win in the majors? If so why not bring Medlen or someone else up to pitch? Jo-Jo could be in the pen…or maybe Medlen could. Either way Bennett has no place on this team. Needs to be sent down tonight.
Turtsnap
May 12th, 2009
11:09 pm
I hope I read in the morning:
“Jeff Bennett sent down, Kris Medlen called up”
Noah
May 12th, 2009
11:09 pm
If McCann is having eye problems still I can’t wait to see him hit once he can see.
a643dp
May 12th, 2009
11:09 pm
All you cox supporters 14 ball in 22 pitches. What can you say about that. If Bennet came in and gave up a solo so be it but to watch a pitchers fall apart batter by batter. Infield hit , SB, Ball 4, Ball 4, Ball 4, GAME OVER. Ill wait for you Cox supports to pick your nose and then respond.
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:10 pm
For the sake of accuracy, let me correct the quote I hurriedly gave you earlier from Chipper. had to write my game story, here it is from the story:
“Let’s just say the baseball gods owe us one,” Jones said. “The game came down to one play, and the umpire got it wrong. Why he got it wrong, I don’t know.”
Catcher Brian McCann made a perfect throw to third baseman Jones, and replays appeared to show Beltran’s hand hit Jones glove before Beltran touched the base.
One out later, Gonzalez hit Fernando Tatis with a pitch before Luis Castillo drove in the tying run with a sacrifice fly to left field. In Jones’ view, that should have been the third out, not a tying sac fly, if the call was made at third.
“I never had a guy slide into my glove and be safe,” Jones said, with a tone of disgust. “That’s the whole game…. We played a perfect game, and got it taken away from us.”
oldschool
May 12th, 2009
11:10 pm
My laptop is down and I can’t find anything on my blackberry
cabravesfan
May 12th, 2009
11:11 pm
Chop Chop-
you’d be suprised…
uga-brave
May 12th, 2009
11:12 pm
bravedave what’s up, it has been a while.
Noah
May 12th, 2009
11:12 pm
Bennett had pretty good numbers last year – 72 games, 3.72 ERA, 3 saves.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:13 pm
DOB please bring us some sanity. I’m depressed!!!
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:14 pm
Of course, it should be pointed out that the replays also appeared to show Gibson got the call wrong an inning earlier on Reyes, when he tried to stretch the double to a triple and was called out. If Gibson calls him safe there, the Mets have the tying run at third with one out in the eighth.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:15 pm
G-Braves lost 4-3 in 11 (1-1 going into the 11th)
benchwarmer
May 12th, 2009
11:16 pm
I think we can let Frenchy go now. He just is not good enough for the Braves needs. Pathetic!
stew
May 12th, 2009
11:16 pm
What happened to the new “Frenchie”? This game was lost because Garret did not come up with the ball in the eighth. We need more in left field. Before you know it he’ll come up with another injury. I love all the great moves we made this year. Our greatest deal was to get Tex for one year and give up Salty, Elvis, and Neftali Perez (probably the top pitching prospect in all of baseball). How long can we go with “le francais” who still seems to swing at any pitch no matter where it’s pitched. It must be very hard to make contact. Are he and Schafer trying to miss. They’re both lost at the plate. Isn’t Andruw able to field? He won 10 gold gloves in CF for the Braves. Isn’t he still better than Marlon Byrd or Josh Hamilton in CF? When did he become such a liability in CF? I understand if you say he can’t hit (although he leads the Rangers in OBP and slugging).
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:17 pm
Reyes was out at third on that play since the ball got there way before he did. Chipper didn’t necessarily get the tag down in time, but they never do, and never have to.
Mixxo
May 12th, 2009
11:17 pm
I’m bummed too MFin04…..big time.
Just glad we have a day game tomorrow to get right back at it, and not stew too long over this one.
oldschool
May 12th, 2009
11:18 pm
Thanks mfin04 do you know who started?
bravos2249
May 12th, 2009
11:19 pm
DOB
I’m not going to get on Gibson but I noticed that too but more times then none the ump will call the runner out because the ball beats him. But with Sheff’s groundball that Casey snatched that would have been a double play if Reyes was on 3rd anyway.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:19 pm
Mixxo I’m MORE bummed
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:19 pm
Anyone see McCann having problems catching the ball from JJ for a couple innings there? A couple dropped from the mitt and the passed ball that he really didn’t make much of an effort to block. You think he’s really over his sight problems? — Invictus Mon
He’s not “over” his sight problems. He didn’t wear the glasses while catching tonight or the last five innings last night, because they were fogging in the cool temps here. Read the Braves notebook I wrote and that’s posted on our website, instead of the blog only. Sometimes news only goes in the notebook or game story, don’t have a chance to put it all in both places while trying to keep up with scoring game, writing notebook, and having a game story written by the last pitch.
Mac’s got a second pair of glasses coming this week, and he’s trying anti-fogging products. He’ll be less reluctant to try stuff like Rain-X glass treatment (made for windshields, but many folks swear by it as an anti-fogging agent for glasses, goggles, etc) after he has a second pair; right now he was a little fearful of messing up his one pair of glasses, because he’s got to have them to hit. So he went without them while catching, rather than have them fog up tonight.
Serge
May 12th, 2009
11:20 pm
If Anderson makes that play in LF in the 8th the Braves win this game. How long till hes cut.
kirkinga
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
well, I’m sorry that y’all are so miserable that you’ve gotta take what is (I’m sure) one of your favorite things to do and turn it into a big whiny mopefest. I love baseball, win or lose, and I’m gonna go to bed looking forward to tomorrow’s game.
Well said Steve from OH. It’s has if some folks had all this negative stuff building up and it couldn’t get out because the Braves were winning some games. Now after a hard loss, the sky is falling and the season is over…again.
The Braves are still in striking distance and unlike the past 3 years, they seem to sink so far and then rebound rather than keep sinking. That’s a good sign. The Braves have still not played their best ball and so there are reasons to be optimistic.
PWHjort
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
Oldschool,
In that case, I’m willing to look it up for you.
Tony Armas Jr. pitched 5 shutout innings allowing 3 hits, no walks, and struck out 5. Boone Logan allowed a run in 2 innings, Francisley (sp?) Bueno pitched 2 scoreless innings, Mario Gomez pitched a scoreless inning, and Luis Valdez allowed 3 runs in 2/3 of an inning in extras for the blown save and loss.
Dumbfound
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
If only Jeff Franceour resemble his self back in 2005 ! We would be up there with the Dodgers and Red Sox. When you don’t add on in a game it will punish you ! Cox is giving away too many games and you just can’t do that ! It is just too many ! He thinks we have enough time and games to give them away ?! Suppose we come up short by two games at the end of the season ?! 1.The 8-2 melt at Phi 4/7. 2.The 3-0 lost at Mets 5/12.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
Armas started…5 innings 0 runs….Pitching gave up 4 runs all unearned….3 unearned in the 11th…pitcher/closer made the error. Sounds like a heartbreaker like our game tonight…maybe worse…since they scored 2 in the top and then let 3 unearned in the bottom of the 11th.
bravos2249
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
You know i can understand not bringing in Soriano in the 10th but I don’t understand not bringing in perhaps maybe Parr after Bennett let 2 on base.
pjkiel
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
It seemed to be just a downhill slide starting with the decision to put JJ back in for the 8th when it appeared obvious in the 7th he was running out of gas….combine a tired pitcher with a worn out left fielder who won’t hustle and dive for a sure out and Gonzo’s mind and the save are blown. Add a bad call at third and they get an extra out. Then to top it all off Frenchy is his usual clutch out with men on base and Bennett needs to follow Blaine Boyer out of Atlanta for good. I think Matty catches the fly and Gonzo gets his composure back and the third out. But Bobby will continue to trot GA and Bennett out…they must have pictures or something.
BravesDave
May 12th, 2009
11:21 pm
Hey uga, it has been a while. Having a 1-year old really decreases blog time.
I can’t believe we are still discussing the awfulness of Jeff Francoeur.
Jake W.
May 12th, 2009
11:22 pm
Burnett leaves the Jays for richer pastures with the Yankees. Doesn’t look good so far from the winning stand point, but at least the man can say he’s getting payed.
richbrave
May 12th, 2009
11:22 pm
DAVID O’BRIEN:
I was listening to the game on XM with the NY feed, and both METS announcers said REYES was out by 10 feet. Did you say the ump got that call wrong and he was actually safe?
No More Bobby
May 12th, 2009
11:23 pm
Good thing this nasty loss happened AFTER the season ticket special they were pushing hard all through the game. It got to the point where they sounded a bit desperate. Tell me we signed a big bat to play left field and Im all overr a ticket package. But I will pass on a signed bat and 755 Club. I want a winning team not carnival prizes.
LKS
May 12th, 2009
11:23 pm
Did anyone interview Bennett after the game and find out why a MLB pitcher can’t seem to throw strikes? Just curious as to what he would have to say about it.
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:23 pm
The Braves are Rollin huh DOB? Shut up please. — Homer
Uh, no, Homer. Because if I shut up, there’s no blog. Genius.
MFin04 (Bennett and Cox Have to Go!)
May 12th, 2009
11:24 pm
The Reyes play was close…but the ball beat him there…the problem was with the tag by Chipper…he didn’t clearly tag Reyes…but he was out because the ball was there…a couple steps ahead of him diving in.
bravos2249
May 12th, 2009
11:25 pm
richbrave
it was more on the throw got to Chipper early and he tagged him on the back while sliding so his hand could have got in there but since the throw was already there the umps call them out 99% of the time.
cabravesfan
May 12th, 2009
11:25 pm
richbrave-
don’t mean to answer for DOB but on TV it kinda looked like Chipper put down a bit of a lazy take and Reyes’ arms sort of went around the glove…my first impression was that Chipper missed the tag, but like DOB said, the ball got there so far ahead of the runner I think the ump had already decided he was out…
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:25 pm
Richbrave, we all thought he was out by several feet (not 10, but maybe 5), but replays showed that he actually might have gotten his hand around the tag and touched the bag first. In fact, I thought replays DID show he was safe. But like those announcers, my initial reaction was that he was out by a lot, which is why I typed, What was Reyes thinking? as soon as the play happened.
cabravesfan
May 12th, 2009
11:25 pm
sorry, that should have said “lazy tag”
GT08
May 12th, 2009
11:25 pm
richbrave,
reyes was out by at least 10 feet. I think DOB is talking about the David Wright steal attempt earlier in the game….maybe he just got mixed up.
Chop Chop
May 12th, 2009
11:26 pm
richbrave,
It looked like Reyes might have gotten his hand in there before the tag, but the throw beat him by so much to the base that the ump wasn’t going to call him safe. Umps feel free to assume on such plays.
RHR
May 12th, 2009
11:26 pm
I’m with Nolie.
Let’s be clear on a few things, shall we?
1. Whatever DOB writes about that day, 98% of the time, the exact opposite happens in that night’s game. ie – “Mets not dead! Santana is the best pitcher of all time!” and the Mets get clowned later that night and Santana gives up 8 hits. “Braves on a roll! Jair is way better than Pelfrey!” ……
2. Never ever ever ever get on the blog or anywhere in public talking smack about how great your starter is and how crappy the other teams starter is. I mean, y’all were here Monday morning and afternoon when all the Mets fans were running wild with their Santana is a god! and DLowe is old and overpaid! comments, right? Karma is a big fan of baseball. Never forget that…
Chop Chop
May 12th, 2009
11:26 pm
That’s what happens when I don’t refresh for a few minutes. Oh, well.
Steve from OH
May 12th, 2009
11:27 pm
Thanks, Kirk.
DOB–good one at 11:23.
oh
May 12th, 2009
11:27 pm
I would have felt better, if you can feel better about a loss, if he just threw that last pitch down the middle to Beltran. Who knows if he would have swung? If he did and drove in the run so what, he would have at least threw a darn strike and let him beat us not beat ourselves.
oldschool
May 12th, 2009
11:27 pm
Thanks for rthe stats guys!Not having my laptop sucks as bad as having uh-oh reyes on the mound!
richbrave
May 12th, 2009
11:28 pm
Thanks for the clarification DAVE and et.al. DAMN TBS anyway. I could have seen it for myself if…..
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:29 pm
LKS, I couldn’t stay in the clubhouse long enough to talk to Bennett, simply because I had to have my write-thru filed by 11:10 p.m. and wasn’t going to get any extra time. They didn’t even let us in the clubhouse until 10:40 or so.
We’re a streamlined operation these days, bro. Deadlines are tight. Bennett wasn’t out by the time I’d talked to Cox, JJ and Chipper, and I wasn’t about to miss deadline so that I could get a quote from Bennett.
JD
May 12th, 2009
11:29 pm
Mac’s got a second pair of glasses coming this week, and he’s trying anti-fogging products.
Hopefully we’re using a different optometrist this time.
David O'Brien
May 12th, 2009
11:30 pm
Oh: Agreed.
richbrave
May 12th, 2009
11:30 pm
RHR:
Point #2 well taken.
RHR
May 12th, 2009
11:30 pm
Oh and cabravesfan, you were right. Chipper did say “ugliest person I’ve ever seen” and he was talking about Moylan..but not in a mean way…really.
Rob from SC
May 12th, 2009
11:30 pm
Until we have the right people in the pen, our journeymen will continue to suck
Chop Chop
May 12th, 2009
11:31 pm
kirk,
The Braves were one game out of first on May 24th last year. They were 27-22. After that, they went 45-68. We’re certainly not likely to see a repeat of such a collapse in 2009, but some fans need an awful lot of convincing that this year’s team will be good. A game like this one doesn’t help.
(Oh, and some fans just like to be morons and post stupid stuff because they find it fun to stoke the fires of those who can’t stand the negativity.)
uga-brave
May 12th, 2009
11:31 pm
not gonna win a lot of games scoring three runs.
it should of never got to this point. the braves were not able to get to pelphrey early and did not take advantage of some late opportunities.
three straight games the braves have failed to score more then two runs before the seventh inning, they won two of them. consider them fortunate.
oldschool
May 12th, 2009
11:31 pm
DOB can you ask bobby to switch things up a bit and let schafer pitch and jo-jo play center!
RHR
May 12th, 2009
11:32 pm
Bennett wasn’t out by the time I’d talked to Cox, JJ and Chipper
Can’t say I blame him for hiding out lol.