12:53 pm May 10, 2009, by David O'Brien
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 10th, 20098:37 pm
May 10th, 2009
On the game side of things its good to know all things will be close to equal as possible (except for Chumper of course) for the upcoming series.
Dude, that’s like saying everything will be fair in the series except Santana is not pitching tomorrow because he is injured. That made zero sense, but coming from a Met fan, I am not surprised. Congrats on taking advantage of the 1-12 Pirates over their last 13. You must be proud!
May 10th, 20098:40 pm
He had one day off the first night in Philly. So probably not. But I’d think Bobby would most likely give Soriano a day off than Gonzo. But Moylan hasn’t gone in a while. It’ll probably depend on how long Lowe goes and whose hitting.
May 10th, 20098:41 pm
Yeah I mean I’m not trying to start something but we did just take 2 of 3 for the Philles…who don’t suck by the way. Yeah Hamels beat us but look at who we had going up against him. But either way we took the series.
May 10th, 20098:44 pm
D. Lowe may not be an ace in your book but he is in mine. Lowe is 106-75 with a 3.79 ERA in 233 starts since 2002, while Burnett is 69-55 with a 3.71 ERA and 164 starts in that period. (Just for comparison’s sake, Peavy is 86-62 in 199 starts since 2002, his rookie season, and Ben Sheets is 75-73 with a 3.60 ERA in 196 starts since ‘02, which was his second season in the majors.)
Lowe is tied with Johan Santana for third-most wins in the majors since 2002 , behind Roys Oswalt (115) and Halladay (113).
How can he not be considered an ACE with these stats.
May 10th, 20098:45 pm
What can you say about that metrosexual man
May 10th, 20098:46 pm
D. Lowe has averaged 15 wins and 208 innings in seven seasons as a starter since 2002. Looks like ACE to me.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
Well he didn’t pitch against the braves last week and that made it more even for the braves and they still lost to Maine and Livan. Didn’t the Pirates put the braves in their place already? Braves lost 2 out of 3 to the Bucs so right back atcha in making no sense.
May 10th, 20098:52 pm
1 game isn’t that meaningful over the course of the season. Our starting staff gives us a chance to win more frequently than any other staff in the NL (except maybe SF, but their offense is even worse than ours). Yes, I’d rather Lowe pitch on 3 days rest if we were in that situation. But the idea is to win enough so you don’t put yourself in that situation. And our staff puts us in a position to win enough so we don’t put ourselves in that situation. Which is much more important than having an “ace”.
May 10th, 20098:54 pm
Anybody here care to go to a sportsbar tomorrow night and watch the game? Tensions would be a lot lower if we didn’t continue to talk to each other from behind a screen and realize that what someone just said actually make sense. I promise I won’t get any Mets flavor on you.
May 10th, 20098:55 pm
I think what I just said makes sense and seeing as how you didnt comment on it. I shut your a** up with some real facts. Not that crap your blowing out your a**. Metrosexual Man thats to you.
May 10th, 20098:56 pm
PWHjort: 1 game isn’t that meaningful over the course of the season.
You do know I’m a Mets fan and can attest that this is not a true staement. As far as the Ace thing goes, you have proven it doens’t matter to you……most times.
May 10th, 20098:58 pm
MetMan, you say nobody has come up with a nickname for the Braves because we’re not a threat, but NOBODY talks about the Mutts until one of you trolls starts polluting this thing. That Met team and you fans of them have been singing the same ‘ole tune since the late 90’s when you get on a winning streak. The arrogance is disgusting and not justified… AT ALL! That team’s done nothing to impress me since I can remember. The late 90’s it was this guy or that guy that would put you over the top. Then it was Wagner, the emmergence of Wright/Reyes. Now, it’s K-Rod/Putz… give it up trolls, the filthy Mutts will never win anything major with those arrogant and silly a** attitudes!
Funny how you wont respond to me.
May 10th, 20099:00 pm
Schafer’s Wafers: Really. Now reach all the way around with your left arm and pat your back. Those stats means he is durable and can hang with the big dogs on most occasions. Lowe is not chopped liver. He would be a Met if Smoltz didn’t bolt and the braves guarenteeing a 4ht yyear. So enjoy him, I know he would have made the Mets better, but eventually he will have to carry the braves sometime during his contract and lest see how much love you have for Lowe then.
May 10th, 20099:01 pm
Yes it is. 1 game is less than 1% of your total. Win more games with your “non-ace” starters earlier in the season and that 1 game isn’t meaningful because you’re not in an elimination situation. The strength of the staff as a whole is important. The strength of individual members is far less important.
TnBrian: Where did I make those statements?
May 10th, 20099:03 pm
Man the Mets win a few in a row and they come out ofthe woodwork dont they?
Dont worry they will have on their Yankee gear by September. The Mets are the laughingstock of baseball. Always have been.
May 10th, 20099:05 pm
I haven’t been a fan of Cox’s in-game decision making in quite some time, but I will tip my hat to the ol’ coot for today’s use of Gonzo in the 8th and Soriano to close. Brilliant! And I mean that sincerely.
I just hope he tells those guys that’s what he intends to do sometimes, only because Gonzo seems to lack a little focus when it’s not a save situation.
May 10th, 20099:06 pm
PWHjort: Yes it is. 1 game is less than 1% of your total. Win more games with your “non-ace” starters earlier in the season and that 1 game isn’t meaningful because you’re not in an elimination situation. The strength of the staff as a whole is important. The strength of individual members is far less important.
Yes there is truth in what you wrote but that did not apply to the Mets. It wasn’t starting pitching that did them in last year, it was the bullpen. The pen blew leads and the starters wins declined. Now if the ace goes 9 innings and wins, then no need.
May 10th, 20099:08 pm
MetroMan, “MetMan”, “MetFan”…what’s the difference? I’m tellin ya’ll, your hearts will be breaking again down the stretch. It’s cool to pull for your team, but you guys and that team it seems, set yourselves up for a let down.
Shane: And you will break out the Milwalkee and Boston gear soon. Good night braves fans, enjoy the Mets-braves series. See you guys tomorrow , after the game that is.
May 10th, 20099:10 pm
Are you serious saying that it just makes him durable. Well I guess that makes Johan durable he is not an ACE considering they have the same amount of wins in that period of time. You metrosexual man are an IDIOT!!! You can leave now. Dont let the door hit your a** on the way out.
May 10th, 20099:12 pm
We’re splitting hairs here. I’m just saying the “ace” label is more of a talking point than a real concern. Which I’m pretty sure you can probably agree with. I’m not concerned about the Braves lack of an ace. I’m concerned about the offense, but I think our starting staff is a strength, despite not having a traditional ace.
Rock On....(the denizen formerly known as Dadgum)
May 10th, 20099:13 pm
Wow, over the final two pages of this latest blog there is absolutely nothing of substance. Trolling Mets fans and Atlanta fans taking the bait. Guess it will be that way until the Mets series is over. Anders you are the exception to the typical Mets fan. You get a pass.
May 10th, 20099:22 pm
This must be your second march to the sea…
Games are won by the players on the field not your keyboard.
What a surprise. Mr. Glass is hurt again. This guy is like a hospital, he cant stay healthy. I guess his elbow is sore from counting all that money from his new extension. Waste of valuable resources.
May 10th, 20099:31 pm
I told you that we are the best team ever……….We are the team to beat……….we wont choke this year, I bet you Manuels job that we will win the world series, if not, we will built yet another stadium next year, and so on until we are world champions.
May 10th, 20099:33 pm
KJ will be batting north of 250 by the end of this road trip.
May 10th, 20099:34 pm
Yeah, at least Anders has brain cells in his “roof”.
DOB: When did we sign Tony Armas Jr.? And what’s up with AAA INF Derrick Arnold? He’s still on Restricted List.
May 10th, 20099:35 pm
What a masachist …..
Take up pingpong,thum wrestling,join a think tank,you are going to hurt yourself.
Is that supposed to be good news?………..he better be.
May 10th, 20099:37 pm
Well is there one thing we can agree on? If we say perhaps…this is just a scenario that the Mets didn’t have Johan and they had Lowe then he would be labeled an ACE because the other pitchers on their staff aren’t as experienced. Being an ace is about experience too. I mean for crying out loud Pedro was your ace before you got Santana…which by the way was the best trade in the past like couple of years. But on the OUR staff compared to our other starters Lowe is an Ace. He may not be that compared to Santana or other pitchers, but up against Vazquez, KK, Jair, and etc., he is.
May 10th, 20099:39 pm
I think you scared him away, Shane.
May 10th, 20099:49 pm
its so funny how all of the philly fans have vanished and now the mets fans have taken over. no worries…
they will be long gone after tomorrow night.
May 10th, 20099:51 pm
I know McCann has a problem with the glasses fogging, but a while ago my dad bought me stuff from a jewlery show that you put on your glasses to prevent fogging and from water to adhere… Has this stuff been tried already or has no one thought of it?
May 10th, 20099:57 pm
DOB — The Van Zandt/Earle article is on-line today at the NY Times site Arts: Music: “Freeing a Mentor from his Mythology.”
May 10th, 20099:58 pm
I prefer keeping my adversaries at a distance. Something about familiarity breeding contempt.
May 10th, 200910:01 pm
Here’s the Earle/Van Zandt article Aridondack Dave is speaking of:
May 10th, 200910:06 pm
Adirondack, wish I’d known about that article earlier, I’d have bought a NY Times here in Philly. Might go down and see if hotel gift shop’s still open.
Thanks for the heads-up.
May 10th, 200910:13 pm
Braveheart, thanks for link. Didn’t see that before I posted response to AdirDave.
Andy K.: Why do you keep asking about Derrick Arnold? I don’t know and, frankly, don’t much care. He’s not a prospect.
I asked about him a week ago after one of your repeated queries about it, and the team official I asked didn’t even know, that’s how far off the radar that guy is. Come on, man, you’re just asking about anybody in the organization, whether you’ve ever heard of them or they have any relevancy to the major league club whatsoever.
And the Braves don’t announce minor league signings, so I’m not sure when they signed Armas, Jr. the guy was 9-12 with a 5.03 ERA with the Nats in 2006, 4-5 with a 6.03 ERA with the Pirates in 2007, and gave up seven runs and two homers in 8-1/3 innings last season with the Mets.
Steve from OH
May 10th, 200910:17 pm
Andy K., what’s your hangup with Derrick Arnold? Dude’s no more of a prospect than I am…
Ah, I see DOB already got to it…
May 10th, 200910:18 pm
Andy K., I just looked up D. Arnold’s numbers: He’s 24 and has a .224 average, .304 OBP and .580 OPS with 11 homers, 82 RBI, 266 K and 68 walks in 1,104 at-bats over five minor league seasons.
I can’t believe I just spent 4 minutes doing that.
Going to watch the rest of the Celtics game now.
May 10th, 200910:25 pm
Sorry DOB, was just wondering if he violated the drug policy or something, because it’s strange he’s been out for so long and whatnot. As for Armas, that was in more of a joking matter, he’s more or less fallen off the face of the earth after having some potential years ago. Remember that Opening Day start against the Bravos a few years back? Final score was like 11-2 or something, and Armas picked up the W.
May 10th, 200910:28 pm
Wish I could give you back those 4 minutes, too.
May 10th, 200910:39 pm
Oh what a surprise, the low class Mets fans have arrived. I never would’ve predicted this.
May 10th, 200910:40 pm
Wow…lot’s of Mets fans on here this evening. And here I thought this was such a lovely day…
Anyhoo, Chop Chop, I think it was you who posted a link to that SNL Mother’s Day song. That was hilarious. Thanks for posting it!
May 10th, 200910:53 pm
Holy crap that was a CLUTCH shot by Glenn Davis!!
May 10th, 200910:54 pm
Wow, what a finish! Big Baby Davis hits a long shot just before the buzzer to life the C’s past the Magic just down the road from Dark Star. Love it.
May 10th, 200910:59 pm
Oh, and I found the last copy of NY Times at 7-11 across street. About to read that story on Earle/Van Zandt. Thanks again for the heads-up, fellas.
Someone be sure to poke Cox tomorrow and remind him that Matty Diaz is something like 8-15 lifetime against Santana while Garrett Anderson is 6-25.
May 10th, 200911:04 pm
You know what would do my heart good? Seeing Kobe and the Lake Show beating the C’s in the Finals. Since they are two of my least favorite teams in pro sports, I’m sure I could find a way not to watch a minute of that series.
May 10th, 200911:10 pm
Do you think that if you poke Bobby he giggles like the Pillsburry Dougboy?
May 10th, 200911:11 pm
DOB-The solution to Mac’s glasses is LOC Glass Cleaner. I know foggy glass & it works!
May 10th, 200911:16 pm
That was a funny comment by me. I said it would do my heart good to “see” that series, yet I wouldn’t watch a minute of it. If I ate some shrooms, I bet I could see it without watching it.
Have you heard how the organization plans to handle the potential departures of Soriano and Gonzalez next season? As you know, they’re both eligible for free agency. Does the organization plan to try to re-sign both of them, 1 of them, or let both of them walk? Or have they not even thought about it and plan on crossing that bridge when they get there?
May 10th, 200911:18 pm
It’s a long season, PWH. With their propensity for injury, the decision might be made for Wren.
We always handle the big name pitchers. Chipper especially… I remember him jacking Randy Johnson for 2 HR during his prime. Pedro Martinez…. Santana got it last year when he came to Atlanta. We’ll take tomorrow’s game.
May 10th, 200911:22 pm
I remember Randy Johnson throwing a perfect game at Turner Field. He was lucky, though. (The D-Backs must have made at least three or four HR-saving catches.) The fact is that we hammered the guy, but that’s baseball. It’s such a crazy game.
May 10th, 200911:25 pm
I remember that game…4 game sweep if I do say so myself…Huddy pitched that game. I believe Santana brushed Huddy off the plate in that one. In fact I believe that was the series when the Mets hit like 5 Braves…lots of posters where po’d. lol
May 10th, 200911:37 pm
Have you heard how the organization plans to handle the potential departures of Soriano and Gonzalez next season? – PWHjort
No, I have not. Nor do I expect to for some time. It’s mid-May and the Braves are trying to get above .500 and stay in a division race. I dare say they’re not thinking about what might happens five or six months from now. That’s folly, since you don’t know if they’ll stay healthy, if guys coming up will have breakout seasons, etc. Really, it’s just not an issue to address right now.
May 10th, 200911:38 pm
I keep going back and forth as to what will be a better series . . . CLE -ORL or CLE – BOS
With or without Garnett, I think it’s Cleveland-Boston.
We are seeing something very important play out in this post-season, in that Boston’s role players, with championship experience in tow, are able to dig down and accomplish things in big games that they never could before they were champions.
Rondo and Davis, for example, both are good players, Rondo was a top player coming out of high school, and Davis led his team to a final four.
But, last year, they often left a lot to be desired with their play. During the first round, Rivers was still trying to figure out whether to finish with Rondo, or Cassell, the veteran.
Now, a year later, a championship under their belts and playing without their best players, almost every single player on the court for the Celtics is a threat.
This is why it is so hard to de-throne a champion. Once a player/team has won a title, they have a whole knew aura of confidence and understanding about them.
Orlando has a lot of talent, and has played Cleveland well this season. But, for pure drama and excitement, we deserve a Celtics-Cavs re-match in 2009.
May 10th, 200911:40 pm
By the way, PWH, do you know what’s up with Derrick Arnold?
May 10th, 200911:42 pm
Papelbon just put two runners on with none out in the ninth, Red Sox clinging to a one-run lead. Then he blows away the next three guys, struck ‘em all out. Another case where an out is not just an out. Strikeouts killed ‘em. A mere groundout would have driven in the tying run from third.
May 10th, 200911:43 pm
Ha. No, I don’t know what’s up with Derrick Arnold. I heard a rumor that him and Richie Sexson have been hanging out, drinking some beers, etc..
By the way, heck of a performance by Papelbon after allowing the first 2 runners to reach in a 1-run game. He strikes out the side to nail down the save.
May 10th, 200911:46 pm
I don’t know if anybody else saw this, but in his thrilling postgame analysis, Brian Jordan noted how Kawakami “minimized his walks” (stutters not included in that quote)
Brian Jordan is like the Corky Miller of broadcasting.
May 10th, 200911:47 pm
Wasn’t that the “Wonder Years” kid? Shoulda boned Winnie, man. What a loser.
May 10th, 200911:51 pm
That was Kevin Arnold.
On an unrelated note, do you think we should share this picture with McFann?
May 10th, 200911:57 pm
Met Man, why would we throw on Red Sox & Brewers stuff? That was just dumb.
Nice job by Papelbon tonight, but I wouldn’t be caught dead in Red Sox crap. Poor Smoltzie…
May 11th, 200912:07 am
That’s folly, since you don’t know if they’ll stay healthy, if guys coming up will have breakout seasons, etc. DOB
I bet the Braves were hoping for a better start from Craig Kimbrel at Myrtle Beach this year. The guy absolutely dominated every level last year. However, he went 10 innings at MB and allowed 15 runs, 13 earned. Granted, he’s been much better at Rome, but still…you gotta think the Braves brass were/are hoping he could make it to at least AA by seasons end. Still might. Who knows.
May 11th, 200912:11 am
I heard Smoltzie on XM radio saying he had “so many interviews coming up” that he “felt like a five year old on Christmas morning”. Hey, he said, and I’m just reporting what I hear. That’s what they pay me the big bucks for, folks.
Frank from KS
Yeah…Pap is quite the closer.
May 11th, 200912:12 am
And…I guess since I mentioned him, I might as well throw out some numbers:
Craig Kimbrel in Myrtle Beach: 10.2 IP, 10.97 ERA, 15/18 K/BB
In Rome: 3 IP, 3.00 ERA, 7/1 K/BB
May 11th, 200912:20 am
Craig Kimbrel looks like he doesn’t like High-A ball.
May 11th, 200912:23 am
Wouldn’t it be really great if Tommy Hanson made his major league debut against John Smoltz and the Red Sox? Hah!
Ya know…I don’t really like booing just for the sake of booing, but John Smoltz certainly hasn’t made it easy on himself for when he comes back to Atlanta. I probably won’t boo him, but I’ve been thinking about it…
May 11th, 200912:25 am
Roman..have you lost your mind….to even think about booing….Smoltzie
May 11th, 200912:27 am
Yip…You know it’s the DAY BEFORE a series against the MUTS, b/c you have the NY MUTS “TROLLS” show up on the blog. Give it a rest, and go away. We already have a “resident” Mets fan here…Anders. Now go find another BRAVES blog to mess with.
BTW…that 7 game ERA for your starters (outside of Johan) is NOT an adequate amount of time to make any presumptions about righting the ship. THE ENTIRE MONTH before that…That’s probably MORE LIKE IT.
FACE IT…Braves have have the deeper starting pitching staff, and are SET at the rotation for the future. METS will have to “Buy some hired mercs like CC Sabathia”, it’ll be the only way you’ll stay relevant in the future. It begins and ends with starting pitching!
FEAST ON THIS METS TROLLS – Braves projected 2010 rotation
Also have Medlin in the waiting as well as Charlie Morton (who can still be a decent 4 or 5 starter and is durable)
Meanwhile…METS HAVE Santana (and one questionable elbow) and mediocrity to follow.
Yip, better get out that checkbook Omar M!
May 11th, 200912:28 am
CorkylikesBeer, I know one thing for sure, he plays for the Red Sox now. AND he talked badly about the Braves. If any other player talked badly about the Braves, would you boo them?
May 11th, 200912:31 am
Smoltzie..will get a standing ovation at Turner Field by most of the fans. There is truth to what Smoltzie said about the Braves.
I’d boo Smoltz. He bolted then badmouthed the Braves.
I’ll forgive him. I booed Glavine too.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 11th, 200912:32 am
Gorkys Hernandez: Batting .339 with 12 RBI, 18 runs scored, an OBP of .403 and 7 stolen bases. He has committed one error in the field.
If the youngster keeps it up, he will be making an appearance down the road at Gwinnett.
May 11th, 200912:34 am
By most of the fans? Really? You sure about that?
May 11th, 200912:36 am
Oh most definitely! I don’t know if you are from Atl or have even been to a Braves game. Smoltzie has been the most popular Brave by far. Chop Chop..would you dare boo…smoltzie
Javier Vasquez is almost certain to be traded sometime during this season or soon after the conclusion of the 2009 campaign. Atlanta is committed to Kawakami and with Hanson, Morton and Medlen waiting in the wings along with the return of Tim Hudson, something has to give.
May 11th, 200912:38 am
There is truth to what Smoltzie said about the Braves.
Except for what Smoltz said, yeah. He pretty much blamed the Braves for him leaving (he said “you leave when you’re given a choice” even though the Braves gave the aging pitcher coming off major arm surgery a fair contract offer). He implied that Braves management outside of Bobby Cox isn’t competent.
Trevor Hoffman, on the other hand, took out an ad in the paper to thank the fans for their love and support. Smoltz bolted.
May 11th, 200912:41 am
Smoltz is a traitor.
I never want to see his face again.
I cry whenever I think of him.
Boo hoo. Boo who? Boo Smoltz.
May 11th, 200912:42 am
Yes, I live in Atlanta. I go to many games. Braves fans are notoriously laid back, unless someone irks them. Heck, they booed Mike Hampton this year. They booed Gary Sheffield. You know what, now that I think about it, Smoltz might just get his phanny booed out of Atlanta. Good thing we aren’t known for throwing things at players…although I think I’d like to throw something at him.
Would it be too obvious if I brought a couple of tomatoes to those games? Then again, I throw like a girl…
Nate from NCState
May 11th, 200912:43 am
So who is stoked about the pitching match up tomorrow night? Should be a great one, maybe a high scoring affair, but who cares, at least we have a pitcher that we can have confidence in going against one of the best in the game. I mean I would take Santana over Lowe, but I don’t think you could ask much more from him then what he has shown.
Also, if Chipper is out the game who do you think gets the start? My money (we’ll say euros) is on Prado getting the start at 3rd and Kelly still leading off. Any takers?
May 11th, 200912:46 am
Man, you guys still asking those age old questions on why Mets fans come here? Sorry I had to read that. Anyway here is an article about your boy Lowe. Mets players hold him in high esteem so everone seems to be looking forward to this game and the series (except Chumper of course). You should change his official name to ” Ouch Jones”.
Also some more useless information, D. Wright the braves slayer almost attended Ga. Tech.
May 11th, 200912:55 am
They use Euros at NC State?
May 11th, 200912:57 am
MetroMan, what, Wright was the only player that had anything to say about Lowe, or the writer for that article didn’t know how to type Spanish? Lord knows that clubhouse is nothing more than entering the Dominicans.
Dr. Martin VanNostrand
May 11th, 20091:12 am
John Sterling’s greatest calls:
“What is it…an A Bomb from A-Rod!”
“A text message from Teixeira”
“Theee Yankeeeesss Winnnnn!”
May 11th, 20091:18 am
Cause for concern:
Chipper Jones has hit .205 during his last ten games. Playing hurt? Definitely. Needs to sit? For sure.
Am I surprised? Not in the least bit. He’s the most feared and respected bat in the line up. Hoss is also a walking eggshell. It is what it is.
May 11th, 20091:26 am
I booed Hampton because he annoyed me (but touche on that Atlanta fans jab). Honestly, I respect his decision to sign with the Astros, I’m just not appreciative of him. I didn’t boo Sheffield because I didn’t care enough to. I [still] boo Tom glavine but only in my head (I’d never boo my own players out loud). And my heart will break if Atlanta boos John Smoltz.
It is the Braves fault.
May 11th, 20091:49 am
He’s the most feared and respected bat in the line up.
That’s like saying you’re eating at the cleanest table in Waffle House.
May 11th, 20091:53 am
Economy is bad. Have you heard? I cashed out.
May 11th, 20096:22 am
Judas Smoltz deserves the Hampton treatment at Turner Field but will not receive it. Heck, Hampton never did anything but get hurt. Smoltz left for thirty pieces of silver and trashed the organization.
May 11th, 20096:26 am
Guess which one is missing starts and which one has missed none.
May 11th, 20097:19 am
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