12:53 pm May 10, 2009, by David O'Brien
May 11th, 20091:20 pm
Sorry put your name in “name” instead of in text but you get the point
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 11th, 20091:21 pm
Thanks for the connection from PS to CF. That’s pretty bold stuff coming from a die hard like you. I know one thing is for sure. I have been to Atlanta the greater parts of 8 summers going to Turner Field and I can say whole heartedly they didn’t miss a beat. Any Braves who has had a blip of success is classly remembered. The Braves HOF is awesome and the Hank Aaron ball standing what seems a mile high when you’re under it is 2nd to none.
From what I have heard on SNY, Loud Mouths, etc. Your park is a work in progress in regards to glorifying past teams and players. I like the Doc Gooden signing of the wall thing. I think more players should follow in his shoes. I don’t know why the Mets said they were going to erase Doc’s signing of ROY/CY/WS 85′/’86. I know you Met fans were infuriated so they kept it. I say build that wall up with former Mets ink. I think that’s very cool. But nothing can compare to the Aaron ball at Turner Field IMO.
@Gummy Bears: Do you do this on purpose, or have you really not noticed that the writers of this blog are David O’Brien and Carroll Rogers, not “Carol Roberts”?
May 11th, 20091:22 pm
Chuck – we will be in section 124, behind 3rd base dugout. I will see if we can get up to the OF area to have a drink or 10…
The good thing about this field is that you feel close to the action where-ever you are. 1st time we went we sat in the RF cut-off which is right on top of the field
Looking forward to us lighting up JOHAN like a pinball machine and keeping Beltran quiet
I don’t think Strasburg gets close to $40 mil. What’s the alltime record, something like $12 mil? (I’m not sure, but I think so). I think the Nats will go to about $20 mil, and if Strasburg doesn’t take that, they’ll let him go and pick up a 2nd 1st rounder next year. And I honestly don’t think that Strasburg can afford to turn down that much money. He’d have to go pitch in an independent league (or in Japan, Boras has suggested). Big risk of injury in doing that.
May 11th, 20091:24 pm
Chuck James – You’ll LOVE the 300 sections. Even though you’re out in left, the seats are high enough to give you a clear view of everything and low enough to make you feel close to the action. One of the great things about Citi Field is how they made the majority of the seats closer to the field. Hope you enjoy it.
As for Fred, I make mistakes often. But when I do, I admit them and move on. DOB has become infamous here for his arrogance and unwillingness to admit error in any circumstance, especially for the while Griffey debacle. The way he tried to spin that–as Griffey being upset he was talked about on a blog–was shameful. It tells you something that Tim Hudson himself wanted to take a swing at DOB for his amateurish interference in the whole situation. But hey, DOB is just a blogger, right? He’s not a journalist. In any case, go in peace, brother…
Macon Braves (RIP)
Dang, I started scrolling through the blog and suddenly felt like I was trying to cross a bridge in some fairy tale land….freakin TROLLS everywhere!!! We gotta get with the NY Daily News or NY Times and get them to start a Mutts blog, then maybe we wouldn’t have all these Trolls here….actually, I bet they’d still be here since it is in their nature to go somewhere they really aren’t welcome and stir crap up.
Is there a riddle or something us Braves fans are supposed to solve before we can expect the Trolls to GO THE HELL AWAY!! I’m not too good at riddles so I hope someone on here is.
May 11th, 20091:26 pm
mbatl – if the Nats pay him say $25M, does that keep him for a certain time or does that just cover a signing on bonus and then they also have to pay him on top of that ??
Metropolitan Man1, If you’re around today, email me at email@example.com. I keep losing your email address. Sorry.
I can’t do break free tonight, but we might be able to get a small group together at a sports bar one of the next couple nights, if you’re up for it. Also, the Mets last play in ATL in the middle of Sept. Let’s double down. If the race isn’t decided by the end of that series, we’ll hook up at the end of the season to settle up somehow. Just shoot me an email.
May 11th, 20091:29 pm
dogsbrekky, I’m pretty sure that would be something like a 5 or 6 year contract. Probably with some kind of guarantees that he makes the 25-man roster within a couple of years… but I’m not 100% sure.
May 11th, 20091:30 pm
Reality – your comments on the Griffey thing are not correct mate. DOBI One Knobi had information that JR was a definite signing with the Braves (I had the same info from a FO source). When he did not sign, Dobi just reported what he was told BY BRAVES sources… he also admitted that he was wrong earlier……….. plus he regularly goes OUT OF HIS way to post this blog (best in world sports if you ask me and I follow plenty of them) when he does not have to…. His reporting and commitment are above and beyond what anyone could wish for and I for one totally respect his opinions (even if I do not necessarily agree always)…….
May 11th, 20091:31 pm
(so in other words, it would cover his salary for the period… it’s not just a signing bonus)
May 11th, 20091:32 pm
What I’m seeing DOWN ON THE FARM in the outfield department represents dark clouds aplenty on MATT DIAZ’s horizon. They even have names, JOHNSON and HERNANDEZ. The young man who I admire greatly better bring his “A” game the rest of this season if he wishes to continue on this club in 2010.
May 11th, 20091:33 pm
mbatl – thanks
Boys, have a great day, off to the missus’ parents place in Queens before we head out to SHEA II
May 11th, 20091:35 pm
I’m one who lives for now with my Braves and it is way too early to think about 2010. But, it is interesting to imagine what our rotation will look like a year from now. the rotation is almost a lock for me, Lowe/Hudson/JJ/Hanson/Kawakami…not sure about Vazquez. Not because he’s bad or doesn’t still have any upside, but I can’t see Wren trading Kawakami, I just can’t, or not re-signing Hudson. I don’t think Kawakami to the pen makes sense for two reasons: one, why would someone think he can adjust better to MLB out of the pen than in the rotation? Smoltz even said the adjustment out of the pen is a lot harder than out of the rotation. Two, an almost $8M long relief or set-up guy? Why would the Braves go across the world to sign a guy that ends up in their pen?
May 11th, 20091:37 pm
I don’t have any problem with the Mets front office at all- anybody who signs Oliver Perez to a 3yr-36 million contract is on my Christmas list. Hey Anders or Reality wish you had that one back? As for DOB nobody needs to defend him on the Braves blog, he does a pretty good job himself. He is loved here. Well at least we like him a lot.
plus he regularly goes OUT OF HIS way to post this blog (best in world sports if you ask me and I follow plenty of them) when he does not have to…. His reporting and commitment are above and beyond what anyone could wish for and I for one totally respect his opinions (even if I do not necessarily agree always)…….
I second that….
May 11th, 20091:38 pm
My favorite quote from you Reality, “admit them and move on”. Do so please.
Braves fans, how’s this for good? The Gwinnett starters are have 30 starts combined, pitched 157 2/3 innings, with 170! K, 51 BB, 47 ER, while allowing 129 H. That computes to an ERA of 2.68, and a WHIP of 1.14. They’re 11-11. That offense in Gwinnett needs some help.
May 11th, 20091:39 pm
The Nats did not sign their #1 guy last year…they will pony-up for strasburg big time
MFin04 (The Hopeless Romantic)
What the heck happened to the blog today? Looks like a nightmare with no intelligent dialogue? Fairyland with Trolls…I agree.
Steve from OH
Dogsb, I agree. DOB does way, way more than he should here and doesn’t get the props he deserves very often. He’s also much more judicious with his banning power than I would be.
May 11th, 20091:41 pm
The career-extension was signed for a couple reasons IMO. 1.) After what happened with Smoltz, if they disrecpected Chipper and didn’t follow through with their word to him that they would get a deal done, then all hell would break lose. Righfully so too. I mean you are talking here like he is missing 70% of seasons. He wont the Silver Slugger and batted .364 with almost a .500 OBP all year. He is still great. My sarcasm about Prado and Infante is contradicting to an extent. They are very solid players. So when Chipper misses games, you don’t get the power but you get 2 guys giving it %100 with results.
So I guess the way we all view it is: If you can get 120 games from Chipper and worst case scenario is Prado and Infante play the other 40 and hit .300 with 5-10 HR’s and some doubles and their solid D, you are missing TOO much of a beat there. But it’s games like tonight where it gets frustrating and his bat is critcal for more sure-fire success.
The 3-year extension was also signed because he is something along the lines of NY’s Patrick Ewing to us Atlanta fans. Only Chipper has a ring. Patrick is still shining Jordan’s Nikes. Yes, the injuries, nagging minor one’s at that suck. But he is my favorite all-time player and I will continue to support him. I may talk my smack about him when I find out “Chipper has a sore elbow”, “Chipper has a bruised hand”, “Chipper has bunions”, “Chipper pulled an oblique”, “Chipper has a minor hamstring pull”. It is all angering but at the same time, he always seems to get himself back in there just enough and be the HOF’er he is, hence the extension…
May 11th, 20091:43 pm
Just to be clear, Kawa. to the pen eventually could happen, but Cox will give him a ton of time to adjust in the rotation first. Somewhere doen the line, Bobby and the Braves will be confident enough to leave him in the rotation.
PEOPLE, ignore the Mutt trolls! They’re insecure about their team, and obvioulsly some are about themselves. Of course they’ll choke and we and the rest of the baseball world will have a front row to watch it all over again…
dogsbrekky – it amounts to this. Yes, Griffey told people privately he wanted to sign with the Braves. He had also told Seattle he would give them final consideration–basicaly, meaning he wouldn’t sign with anyone else without giving Seattle a chance to match the offer.
So, while Griffey planned to sign with the Braves all along, he needed to wait a small amount of time and give Seattle the courtesy he’d promised them–or at least make it appear he was doing so. He knew he wanted to sign with Atlanta, but he didn’t want to insult Seattle, with whom he had a longstanding relationship.
Then here comes DOB, with his “Dude’s gonna be a Brave!” pronouncement, which he also goes on to say he got from inside sources on the team. In fact, DOB implied that Griffey always wanted to be a Brave, and was pretty much just stringing Seattle along at this point. So basically, by letting the cat out of the bag early, he made Griffey look like a fool. How could Griffey now go back to Seattle and say he was honestly considering their offer as well, when someone in Atlanta just plastered all over the internet that his decision was already made?
It was unprofessional on DOB’s part, and served one purpose only: to make himself look “cool” as opposed to what a professional should do–be patient, allow Griffey the professional courtesy to square away his relationship with the Mariners, and then announce the signing once it was all legit.
A professional would have acted quite differently. And once it all blew up, a professional would have admitted he made a huge mistake. Instead, DOB tried his hardest to push the theory that Griffey was some unreasonable prima donna whose feelings had been hurt. That’s what I take issue with, and that’s what makes me understand why the Braves clubhouse was so furious with him.
Here’s some evidence from the Triple-A notebook on MILB.com that supports my last post. “As a team, the G-Braves have hit .224 over the last 10 contests, totaling 28 runs. … Eight position players have hit .216 or worse in that period, and six have batted below the Mendoza line.”
May 11th, 20091:44 pm
Sounds like we may have a few trade pieces for young talent, preferably pitching talent, preferably left-handed pitching talent. Combined with this year’s #7, voila, a new bunch of baby BRAVES in three years or so.
Kinda sucks that dogsbrekky has tickets at Shea. I mean, the place has been demolished.
May 11th, 20091:45 pm
In regards to that young pitcher Strasburg. It has been said it should “only” take between 20-25 million to sign him. Don’t count Boras out for hiking that up some way somehow, though.
Yes are all very fortunate DOB and Carrol are THE best in regards to level-headed (when they get sleep) beat writing and blogging. Also, you forgot to mention that DOB gets players to come on here during ST and constantly encourages Chipper too. Even though he has appeared once I believe and I was luckily here, that is one more time to talk to your baseball hero on a random Tuesday in Jersey then any other professional sports blog. Cheers to the both of them.
May 11th, 20091:47 pm
DOB, you’re more patient than I would be (credit to you). I’d ban his a**, not because he’s obscene, but just because he’s unlikeable, and because I could. I’d send his IP to the tech guys and tell them to block him forever (make him go to some other basement to blog and then I’d ban him again!).
I saw real improvement in KAWAKAMI yesterday over his start in D.C. two weeks ago. The dude can pitch. Of course, I was using my eyes not yours.
May 11th, 20091:48 pm
Reality, You don’t know that Hudson wanted to take a swing at DOB. All we know is that they were in a verbal argument and others had to step in to help resolve the situation. And if Hudson were to swing at DOB, it would be a reflection on Hudson because adults aren’t expected to physically assault others when there is a disagreement. Also, your assertion that DOB is not a journalist is absurd because irregardless of your opinion of his wrting or personality, he is employed as a journalist by the AJC to cover the Braves. This blog is obvioulsy not his only work assignment. He was also previously employed as a journalist by a newspaper in Florida as the Marlins beat writer. So he must be doing something right, even though some people don’t care for him or agree with his opinions.
DOB does a great job. Im sure Reality has never made a mistake. Other than the team he forgot to put in my milkshake.
NEW BLOG. not finished yet. but it’s posted. we’ll finish at the ballpark. have at it now though.
May 11th, 20091:49 pm
Reality, what are you, the journalism police? Unless you are actually a journalist, I think it would be best to stop pretending like you actually know stuff about journalism and get off your high horse, bud. Wouldn’t go in to an attorney’s office and tell him how to do his job if you’re an engineer, wouldja?
Why don’t you go out, and find some friends, and maybe a nice girl or something and leave DOB to do his job, eh? Jesus people, it is quite easy to sit behind a blog moniker and call out someone who has a known identity…how would you like DOB to sit over your shoulder day and night while you do your job?
Does anyone know if tonights game will be blacked out on ESPN for dishNetwork in the Savannah area since PeachTree is showing the game as well?
May 11th, 20091:50 pm
He’s also much more judicious with his banning power than I would be.
Start banning people and where does it end, LOL? First, trolls, and next thing you know, you’ve moved on to just plain dolts, regardless of fan persuasion. Pretty soon, you’re left with, well, you, nolie, and a handful of other folks, pagination becomes a moot point because of the scarcity of posts, and there aren’t any posts from total numbletards to make the rest of us feel smug.
Let’s not go there, shall we?!?
May 11th, 20091:51 pm
if your version of the Griffey situation was correct, then one might able to accept your conclusions. But you ARE FLAT OUT WRONG.
If you go back and read the news that was broadcast at the time another AJC reporter Terrance Moore, was the one whose sources (Griffey family friends?) passed on the information about Grifffey coming to Atlanta.
DOB is the beat reporter for the Braves, so he reported what AJC (not DOB) sources were telling him.
There is NO DOUBT that Griffey changed his mind after hearing from Harold Reynolds and Willie Mays.
The AJC did not in fact MAKE A MISTAKE. They reported the story that was true at the time. GRIFFEY CHANGED HIS MIND.
Does that make sense now?
And other than Tim Hudson, please show me ANY evidence that the Braves clubhouse was furious with DOB.
I think you have taken a few facts, inserted your opinions, and made unfair conclusions.
May 11th, 20091:52 pm
KAWAKAMI does tire after five. May be the different approach to hitting here vs. JAPAN, the size of the ball, I don’t know. He’s throwing too many pitches early, but our opponents have been utilizing that strategy ever since the walk-a-thon loss a month ago. He’s beginning to find the strike zone more ofter however. He’s gonna’ be tough the last half of this season.
ANd further REALITY,
if you don’t like DOB, then don’t come to his blog.
May 11th, 20091:53 pm
Reality what you take issue with on the Braves blog means not a twit sir not a twit. Please go away and see if mom has lunch ready.
May 11th, 20091:54 pm
My drinking days at ball games are over, man. I am 25 now but have grown up about 10 years in the past 4. I used to get so wreckless, winning or losing. It’s funny because I have the violent passion of a Yankee fan only I am a Brave fan. So when me and my like-minded fellow Braves fans from up North have gone down to Turner Field, lets just say we didn’t blend in with %98 of the fans.
I can’t tell you how many times me and 4-5 Brave friends have gone to Philly or NY double-tomahawking and chanting freaking hammered. That has been both fun, miserable and I don’t remember. The past 2+ years of success (or lack thereof) of the Braves has had me in very low key mode at the park these days. Man, the memories.
May 11th, 20091:55 pm
flange1 – Everything as I wrote it in that post is correct. Go ask DOB. That is, if he’ll honestly answer you.
May 11th, 20091:56 pm
Reality — I know what u are saying… THe AJC sucks…
May 11th, 20091:57 pm
But the space shuttle is about to blast off!!!!
May 11th, 20091:59 pm
In regards to the DOB bashing or whatever. The “problem” for lack of a better word is DOB is the best at what he does. His over-working and passion for doing his best to be there for us fans 12-20 hours a day and getting us inside info hour-in and hour-out has got him in a little trouble. This isn’t his 90th year blogging. I have been here since month 1 and like everything, he has learned on the job. Why don’t we focus on the 3,549 things he has done right instead of the 2-3 blips?
May 11th, 20092:02 pm
7654321 blast off
Reality, How could you possibly know what you said in your earlier post is entirely correct? Were you in the Braves clubhouse when the Griffey/Hudson thing went down? Are you related to one of the Braves? Frankly, none of us will ever know everything that happens in the Braves clubhouse because they prefer to keep things in-house. Even reporters are banned from the clubhouse at certain times before and after games for the sake of privacy. It’s extremely arrogant of you to claim something as fact that you have no direct knowledge about.
AJC SUCKS really
May 11th, 20092:03 pm
The history of HS pitchers at the top of the draft is at best mixed.
Beckett — great in the post-season, but only 2 noteworthy regular seasons so far.
Kazmir– been good, but not great
Avery — very good from ‘91 – ‘93 and came up huge in the playoffs and WS in ‘95, but all too brief a career.
Ankiel — a brief display of what the hype was all about followed by Steve Blass disease.
Brien Taylor — 0/1 in bar room fights
Matt White — got 10 million bonus to never pitch in majors
Harrington — refused to sign with 2 clubs and never was heard from again
The kid from Texas (whose name I’m blocking on right now) that allowed Chipper to be drafted by the Braves — never pitched more than a few years of middle relief
It looks like Matzek will be off the board by the time the Braves draft, but that might not be such a bad thing.
May 11th, 20092:04 pm
Sorry for the double post. I double clicked by mistake
May 11th, 20092:05 pm
New bloggage for all the Braves fans…….you Mutt Trolls are welcome to stay here though.
May 11th, 20092:07 pm
Fred….an arrogant Mutt Troll, NO, you can’t be serious!!!
May 11th, 20092:10 pm
sir, you are not correct. Reread the information at the time and you will see you are wrong.
May 11th, 20092:11 pm
W. T. Sherman – your moniker makes me think of a 1920’s bible salesman.
anyways, Go Bravos
October 9th, 20127:36 am
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