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Shane

May 11th, 2009
11:29 am

Go put your Yankee gear on

Gil In Mechanicsville

May 11th, 2009
11:29 am

Rock on, I think we can all agree it takes a while to learn how to pitch. Hanson is going to be a good one but didn’t we see similar stats from other AAA pitchers? Smith, Reyes, Davies… all guys who were pretty darn good AAA pitchers but struggled a bit in the bigs.

Reyes has to be pretty talented to be allowed to accumulate as many major league losses as he has over the last couple of seasons. I think he is similar in his make up to Kyle Davies and Morton. There have been some pretty good pitchers who have worn out their welcome with their original ball clubs and prospered from the change in scenery. JoJo may be one of those. However, looked to me that his pitches were a bit flat and he became tentative. Thus the walks… Hey, like Lew said, it’s MAY…

jonatuga

May 11th, 2009
11:31 am

DOB,

Loved the 11:00.

Steve from OH

May 11th, 2009
11:31 am

Anders, good point about the Phils’ bullpen overload. Hamels looked real good on Friday, didn’t see the game on Saturday, and Myers was so-so, I thought, regardless of how we actually hit against him. That offense is still pretty scary, though.

Efrim, God love ya for trying to re-ignite baseball talk this morning, but I feel as though it may be a futile exercise. I usually like to post in the mornings before the kids come home from school and tell us how much the Braves suck, but if the trolls keep filling the blog with their filth in the mornings, I think I may have to join uga-brave and Bay Area Steve on late-night duty…

I agree that the rest of this month is a good opportunity to pile up some W’s. 11-9 would be very good, 13 wins would be excellent…

Sethual Healing

May 11th, 2009
11:31 am

Shane, Pedro would also say “Who eez Kalreeem Garl-cee-ya?” (Karim Garcia)… anyone remember that? No? oh…

PWHjort

May 11th, 2009
11:31 am

Sethual Healing,
Great post. Just remember to mention their horse sh!t starting rotation apart from Santana next time. :)

Lew

May 11th, 2009
11:33 am

Anders-I had the Phillies feed on XM on Saturday and their announcers sounded very much like Bobby Cox. Blanton “only” got hit hard two times when he gave up those two home runs. We held their heavy hitters pretty much in check on Saturday and Sunday. Their pitchers were not all that, either, though Myers was better than he usually is against the Braves. We had him on the ropes in the first and only scored once. Should have been a lot more, but the offense is not where it should be yet.

Braves should have scored way more runs than they did. There were lots of runners on and we did not hit well with RISP. Other than that, the Phillies’ pitching was about what you might expect-poor. They out bludgeoned us on Friday and couldn’t hit Vazquez or Kawakami.

W. T. Sherman

May 11th, 2009
11:34 am

Sethual Healing….”Mets underacheiving and the bullpen sucking”??? The Mets are first aren’t they? As for the bullpen, Other than Green the other guys in the pen have been very good.

bravofan

May 11th, 2009
11:36 am

did Chipper break a nail?

Lew

May 11th, 2009
11:36 am

Anders-The Phillies pitching was poor except for Hamels. He was dealing like the Hamels of last season.

Shane

May 11th, 2009
11:37 am

Mets are in First aren’t they?

LOL but we all know thats not where they will finish !!!!

bravofan

May 11th, 2009
11:38 am

yes mets are in first the Braves will only be 1.5 games back if they win tonight

JEB

May 11th, 2009
11:38 am

**DOB**

Just a side note you can pass on to BMac.
My son was a catcher from little leagues, into High School, and college.
He wore contacts but at times he would get an eye irratated and would have to wear his sports glasses under his mask (he wore the hockey style mostly). He was prone to sweat alot and his glasses would fog up.
We found that if he treated them with RainX, he did not have any problems. He would just treat them every other inning with RainX and never worried about them fogging up.
Just a little handy helper to pass along.

W. T. Sherman

May 11th, 2009
11:39 am

2006 LEW? How many years back are we allowed to go here? Anyway we’ll see if Beltran’s at bats in the up coming series amuses you some more.

bravofan2

May 11th, 2009
11:42 am

Big game tonight as both team’s aces take the mound. A win will continue the braves win streak and help get them closer to first in the division. GO BRAVES!!!!!

moose knuckle

May 11th, 2009
11:42 am

I don’t think Bmac needs rainx….he needs SHAMWOW!

Joe Fan

May 11th, 2009
11:44 am

When are the Braves going to seriously look at finding a replacement for Chipper? I can’t believe how short sighted the Braves were in signing a player who has been hobbled by injuries for the last 3 years and who will almost absuredly get worse as he ages. A foot here, a hamstring there, a thumb earlier this season and now an elbow. The odds are against Chipper ever again playing more than 100-120 games in a season plus his power numbers seem to be evaporating. If he truly wants to help the Braves, he will request they trade him to the AL where he can DH and the Braves can hoepfully acquire 1 or 2 top shelf prospects.

Sethual Healing

May 11th, 2009
11:45 am

Sherman, I was referring to a more collective year-in-year-out suck for the Mets, and no… their bullpen isn’t very good.

Sethual Healing

May 11th, 2009
11:45 am

Thanks, PWHjort

bravofan2

May 11th, 2009
11:47 am

Chipper’s offensive stats have been on the rise the past few year. yes he is getting injured more, but offensively he is in his prime.

beekay

May 11th, 2009
11:47 am

Say what you want about KK but the dude battles. He is a bit wild and inconsistent but seems to do pretty well getting out of trouble. If he can get his control improved he might be a solid 4 guy for us

Anders

May 11th, 2009
11:49 am

Sherman, I was referring to a more collective year-in-year-out suck for the Mets, and no… their bullpen isn’t very good. (Sethual Healing)

You’re lost. Their bullpen has been one of the best in the league this year. Last I saw they were second in bullpen ERA. (That was last week so please don’t hold to that rating but you get the idea).

Shane

May 11th, 2009
11:53 am

Anders … You can go put on your Yankee gear too.

Tell me what month do you expect the Mets to implode? We have an office pool going and I feel like I can win with a Mets fans perspective.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
11:55 am

KK will get better when he realises he can throw something over the plate and use the fastball to set up that shuto…. his starts in mlb have been a lot worse than otherwise because I suspect his arm has been hurting and the bite on that curve (until this weekend) has not been there…

Shea II tonight……. be a great match up as we do well against JOHAN.

Lew

May 11th, 2009
11:55 am

WTF Sherman-I was throwing y’all a bone. 06 was the last time the Mets even won something.

RHR

May 11th, 2009
11:56 am

who will almost absuredly get worse as he ages.

Yeah he’s done. The nursing home is surely next.

2004 ATL 137 472 69 117 20 1 30 96 84 96 2 0 .248 .362 .485 .847

2005 ATL 109 358 66 106 30 0 21 72 72 56 5 1 .296 .412 .556 .968

2006 ATL 110 411 87 133 28 3 26 86 61 73 6 1 .324 .409 .596 1.005

2007 ATL 134 513 108 173 42 4 29 102 82 75 5 1 .337 .425 .604 1.029

2008 ATL 128 439 82 160 24 1 22 75 90 61 4 0 .364 .470 .574 1.044

Anders

May 11th, 2009
11:57 am

Anders … You can go put on your Yankee gear too. (Shane)

What exactly does this mean?

monty

May 11th, 2009
11:59 am

On Chipper’s elbow,

As a former pitcher(teens) and an avid golfer for 20+ years and having hit thousands of range balls trying to whittle my handicap down, a few years ago I experienced a pain in my right elbow(throwing arm) unlike any I have ever felt.I have sprained an ankle a couple of times and that initial pain that first split second is similar to what I felt in my elbow, except the pain in my elbow was worse in that 1st initial instant upon hyper-extending it, now the pain didn’t linger as would a sprain, but for about the first 2-3 seconds it felt as if my arm was going to fall off at the elbow! I have experienced that pain on about 3 occassions over the past 5 years all playing golf swinging my driver, trying to get full extension. If Chipper’s pain feels anything like that then I can comiserate with him trying to hit a baseball knowing that if he fully extends he is in danger of triggering that pain.

trey

May 11th, 2009
11:59 am

I am actually surprised that Kenshin got a win. He is no good as a starting pitcher, so if he can keep this up, maybe he will actually be something, if not we could always use the arm in the bullpen. So, good job for Kawakami.

Greg

May 11th, 2009
12:00 pm

DOB:

From the radar figures on the game yesterday, it looked like KK’s velocity was way up. Was that due to an inaccurate stadium gun? Or was he throwing harder?

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:03 pm

The funniest part about this whole debate is that I meant my post about Chipper in all seriousness. I wanted to know from the Atlanta fan’s perspective if they were beginning to get irritated with Chipper, or if his status in the Braves’ history makes him untouchable, and gives him the benefit of the doubt for as long as he continues to produce. Not an exact analogy, but sort of like Patrick Ewing of the NY Knicks. He was hurt a lot his last few years, but was so beloved by the fans that very few of them turned on him for being out of the lineup at times.

That’s all–and then, the blogger/journalist/diary-keeper/hot-cab-rider known as Dave O’Brien came out, guns a’blazin’, ready to slap down a Mets fan for everyone! He is a Big, Big Man, it seems. What he is not, however–and he just spent paragraphs professing this himself–is a journalist in any way. That much was obvious from the start.

So, I’ll leave my original question out there for anyone who wants to respond. If not, nice chatting with you.

And DOB–don’t tell anyone else–this is just between you and me–but Babe Ruth? Dude’s gonna be a Brave….

Shane

May 11th, 2009
12:04 pm

It means that most if not all Mets fans are closet Yankee fans. When the Mets annual choke comes and goes they sneak their Yankee stuff out of the closet and Wholla !!! Instant Yankees fan.

W. T. Sherman

May 11th, 2009
12:04 pm

LEW—It’s been even longer since the braves have won anything old pal.

Shane

May 11th, 2009
12:06 pm

Hey Reality. DOB gets paid for what he does. You dont. Im sure Dave would like to know where you work though so you can make sure he gets his fries before he leaves.

Sethual Healing

May 11th, 2009
12:06 pm

Sherman, Anders…

I had my facts mixed up and was thinking Oliver Perez was a reliever… (drops head in shame)

trey

May 11th, 2009
12:06 pm

When the Braves GM signed Kawakami, it was out of desperation, because he wanted us to be like the other teams and have a Japanese player, didn’t matter what kind of thrower he is.

TnBrian

May 11th, 2009
12:09 pm

Shane, yeah, you can almost smell a Mutt implosion coming. Kinda smells like a wet dog.

I’m not worried about Chipper because he’s a guy who tells the truth, no matter what. Him saying it’ll be no more than one missed game and I believe him. “He never lies. All he’s got in this world is his ba*** and his word, and he breaks them for no one!” “He tells the truth, even when he lies.”

sri

May 11th, 2009
12:09 pm

Reality,

DAP’s post at 10:40 am sums up how most Braves’ fans feel about Chipper (I think).

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/05/10/braves-go-for-series-win-in-philly/comment-page-9/#comment-87270

Fleming

May 11th, 2009
12:09 pm

Shane – Problem with being a closet Yankee fan is the Yankees aren’t winning anything either.

DAP

May 11th, 2009
12:11 pm

RHR

thank you for posting that. it really confuses me when folks come on the blog and talk about needing to find chipper’s replacement, or even about trading him to the AL, when the guy has shown no signs of slowing down at all, and has actually been improving over the years. his numbers are a little down so far this year, but i attribute that to not having anyone batting behind him for most of the season. now that mac and anderson are back, i think he will improve.

Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!

May 11th, 2009
12:11 pm

So what I miss over the weekend with the bravos….Oh Star Trek Rocked, always TOS guy but this movie still ruled….

Also is Carol Roberts or DOB starting the new blog today.

Fleming

May 11th, 2009
12:11 pm

Sethual Healing – I didn’t know Perez was even considered a pitcher anymore

DAP

May 11th, 2009
12:11 pm

treyHe (kawakami) is no good as a starting pitcher,

howya figure?

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:14 pm

Shane – That’s a great line about the fries. I get it–you’re trying to imply that I work at a fast-food restaurant and don’t earn a lot of money. And then from that, we’re supposed to conclude that my opinion wouldn’t be important if that were the case. I follow you. You are one crafty comedian, sir, and I look forward to more of your zappers and zingers in the future.

With that said, do you care to respond to any baseball-related issues I brought up?

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
12:15 pm

Since there are Met fans here I would like to take the opportunity to ask you all a question: What is the best food to eat at the new park? I am going to the stadium for the first time tonight. Anything else I should check out there? Thanks. Also what is the quickest way to Citi Field from Penn Station? Thanks again. Anybody who knows, I appreciate it in advance.

D-rock

May 11th, 2009
12:15 pm

Reality,

If Dob isn’t a journalist, how come when he makes up the game stories, the final score always matches up?

sri

May 11th, 2009
12:16 pm

An interesting piece of info (highlights Braves offense is a work in progress.. but things are looking better)

“Santana has used his changeup and slider to keep hitters confused over his 4-1 start. Opponents are hitting more than 100 points worse and slugging more than 200 points worse against Santana’s off-speed pitches than league average and they are failing to make contact.
Entering Sunday, the Braves, who face Santana and the Mets on Monday, were hitting .203 and slugging .254 against off-speed pitches, both below the league average.”

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/notebook?page=bbtn

Fleming

May 11th, 2009
12:18 pm

D-rock – I wonder sometimes if getting something right disqualifies someone from being a journalist

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:18 pm

sri – thanks for the link. I saw that post and thought it made a lot of sense too. It’s actually a pretty reasonable way of looking at things. I guess a limited amount of a superstar is better than an everyday player who won’t ever reach that status.

That’s all I was looking for, DOB. No reason for you to be an a**hole about it. Well, except you being you, I guess.

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:21 pm

Chuck James –

Shake Shack is tremendous, but the lines are stil very long while they get the service kinks worked out. Nathan’s hot dogs and hamburgers are all over the place, and are well worth it. From Penn Station I’m not sure–I always take the #7 from Grand Central. As for sights, check out the rotunda–it’s beautiful, and a great way to enter the atmosphere of a ballgame. It probably won’t mean much to you as a fan of the opposition, but the fanwalk made of bricks inscribed with messages from Mets fans is also impressive to see. Have a great time–it’s a beautiful ballpark. What level are your seats on?

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:21 pm

OK Shane- You got me. I’m a huge Yankee fan. That’s what brings me to this blog. Good work Columbo.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
12:22 pm

Gil in Mechancsville

Yes we have seen other pitchers with ATL have great and I mean GREAT AAA stats. Davies, Reyes etc. But nobody had this over powering hard stuff that Hanson has. Also he is something like 6′6 throwing 96+ MPH heat down at you with hard movement then big slow 12-6 curves on the corners. I think if Glavine doesn’t get right and JoJo continues his brilliance he will be called up by June 1 for a shot in the arm for the staff. Because 1-4 is solid. Problem is, (which is a great problem to have) if health actually is on our teams side this year. They will have:
Lowe
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Kawakami
Hudson
Glavine
Campillo
Hanson

All very capable of being very productive, if not very, very good. Great problem to have and I am sure looking forward to it. I am loving the health of Soriano and Gonzalez for the ‘pen too. Soriano knows people can’t hit him now. He’s up there lookin at batters like, “Are you seriously even trying to stand there and challenge me? Ok…VOOM!” His old Chinese man goatee is radical too.

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:23 pm

D-Rock – go back and read DOB’s post–he said he’s NOT a journalist, he’s a blogger. I’m not the one saying he’s not a proper journalist. He insisted upon it.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
12:23 pm

Anybody happen to be at the Jane’s Addiction show last night? I read tha article…What happened to Perry? Was he all funked up spinnin out the gate or was it just some small awkward thing?

DAP

May 11th, 2009
12:23 pm

reality<iI get it–you’re trying to imply that I work at a fast-food restaurant and don’t earn a lot of money.

no, i dont think thats it…shame on me for speaking for shane, but i think he is implying that fast food is the only job you can get, there fore you probably arent very smart. possibly even stupid.

Shane

May 11th, 2009
12:23 pm

Reality

Im not implying im saying. Big difference. I would discuss baseball with you but you dont seem like someone who knows the game very well at all. Would be like a grad student talking economics with a HS sophomore. I have nothing to learn from you

How is your sports writing job at the Times or the Post working out. Oh thats right you arent a journalist and dont know what you are talking about. Can you get me some of those ketchup packets please?

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:25 pm

Thanks, DAP–that makes it even funnier. Wow, it’s amazing how he could pack all of that into one post. My sides hurt. I’m laughing so much. I mean–calling someone stupid without using that actual word? Unbelievable! Thanks for clarifying.

David O'Brien

May 11th, 2009
12:26 pm

Basically, DOB, if you say it’s sunny outside, it’s a good move for your readers to bring a raincoat. — Reality

Then how ’bout if I say this: Everyone can be assured that Reality will be back on this blog, piling up page views and posting plenty of comments, under his current screen name or another, today and tonight, tomorrow, Wednesday, and on and on long past this Braves-Mets series?

bravesphanatic004

May 11th, 2009
12:26 pm

for christ’s sake, how insecure are these mets trolls???? what are they doing here? do they not have a blog of their own? you would think they would….but i guess not. im sure they have tried it in the past but since no one mets fan thinks logically, it never worked. these dudes are so out of touch with reality (like “reality”). they come over here trolling after a mere 7 game win streak, not in september when it matters, but in may. they are the biggest joke in all of baseball and they dont even realize it. they have one nothing in the last 20 years. the last 2 years they have choked away huge leads and yet they act like they have been world champs every year during that time. how insanely delusional these pricks? its pathetic…. i almost feel sorry for them and their families. not really for them but the people that have to interact with these poor souls on a daily basis. now i understand why everyone in new york are such a$$holes….

DAP

May 11th, 2009
12:26 pm

reality haha, youre welcome.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:27 pm

Shane – Reality and Anders are actually very intelligent in comparison to the Metamucil fans I come across in NYC……… sad but true

jonatuga

May 11th, 2009
12:27 pm

Reality

May 11th, 2009
12:29 pm

DOB – deal. And maybe one day, you’l actually discuss baseball from an informed perspective.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:29 pm

Chuck James – Get to the park early. Go out past center field where many of the eateries are. Stake out a table, there aren’t nearly enough. Then try the many different types of food out there, but keep one person at the table at all times. Once you lose your spot – your screwed. If you like beer they have a great concession with beers from everywhere out there.

Penn sation to Woodside. Woodside to CitiPark.

I think the rotunda is over rated. There, I said it. It’s blasphemous to say as a Met fan but sorry I’d prefer more Met stuff. Jackie Robinson has his place, but not with the Mets and certainly not as the center piece of their new park. Perhaps we could hace squeezed a statue of Tom Seaver out of that $750 million? Not nearly enough Met stuff. Hopefully they correct that.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:30 pm

bravesphanatic – The people in the city (MANHATTAN that is) are incredibly nice folks……. those that attend Yankee stadium (not the chardonnay set) are generally NOT and the ‘mucils fans are just passionate about winning……

PWHjort

May 11th, 2009
12:31 pm

Reality,
To answer your question, it’s something you accept and get used to. As long as you don’t expect him to play more than 120 games you won’t be disappointed. After all, even with his limited playing time last season he was the 3rd most valuable player in baseball (according to VORP), so we deal with it. I can’t say it doesn’t frustrate me at times, but I’m still glad he’s on my team and I view the contract extension that he signed this past off-season as a very club- friendly contract. He’s worth way more than 14 million a year (somewhere around 36 million last year according to fangraphs).

MGL

May 11th, 2009
12:33 pm

Reality – I thought in the spirit of friendship I would give you my opinion on the Chipper question. So…my opinion is that it is none of your business what my opinion is on Chipper. Hope that helps your little survey.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:33 pm

Anders – yes I agree re the rotunda, there were many great Mets (and forerunner) players as well as the late great Jackie R.

The new stadium is laughably bereft of REAL METS history……. then again one should not expect much from your management

PI Braves

May 11th, 2009
12:34 pm

Reality, why don’t go back to the Mets’ blog and ask you fellow fans about what they feel about Chipper? Then ogle about how good Santana is… Or how D. Wright deserved the 2007 Golden Gloves…etc..

Or wait.. maybe you don’t have something like this in NY? so what I’m saying is.. Don’t come here feeling all and mighty just because the Mets is currently in the 1st place. You guys haven’t proven anything recently. Go eff yourself in your blogsite. Bring W.T Sherman with you!

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:37 pm

dogsbrekky – Why always the shot at Met’s mgt? You realize they own the 2nd most valued franchise in baseball – right? They must have some idea of what they’re doing.

PWHjort

May 11th, 2009
12:38 pm

Trey,
Signing Kawakami was just as much about tapping into the Japanese market as it was acquiring a pitcher. It wasn’t done out of desperation, it was very calculated. We’ve already started to see it pay off as the Braves have signed a Japanese amerature currently down on the farm who specifically cited Kawakami as a big reason he chose the Braves. Plus, let’s let Kawakaki adjust to MLB before we write him off. He’s struggling to locate his pitches because he isn’t adjusted. Wait until he’s adjusted to make an assessment on him.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:38 pm

Dobi One Knobi – can you ask Wren (if you come across him) his thoughts on bringing young Medlen up to mlb. I know most of us focus on Tommy Hanson and Morton, but my mate who goes to most G Braves games says the little Medlen dog is a real gun……. or have you heard anything regarding this ?? Would they try him in lieu of say Buddy or Bennett ?

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:39 pm

Anders – you should know the answer to your own question

RLPmetro

May 11th, 2009
12:40 pm

Reality…perhaps you should go back and read DOB’s posts. He never said he wasn’t a journalist. He said THIS IS A BLOG. Blogging is different than writing for the paper. To set the record straight…he does both! Do us all a favor and go find a Mets board to stir up.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:41 pm

Overall the new park is really nice. It’s not up there with the greats (Camden , Pac Bell etc) but it really has a nice feel to it. Definetly brings you closer to the game and they really cut out a lot of the crap they pumped over the sound systems. They’re working out the kinks but they got most of it right. The outfield seats are outstanding. Especially the Pepsi porch. No one’s hit one their yet – maybe big Mac?

Sethual Healing

May 11th, 2009
12:42 pm

Reality, for real…

as much as you’re on this blog, you should know that Dave O’Brien busts his @$$ to keep Braves fans informed. The man has been on here answering AJC.com denizen’s questions at 2 a.m. many times. I have a coworker who is a Cubs diehard but is amazed and jealous at how dedicated AJC beat reporters are. Not all fans have this. They write stories and maintain the blog – no easy feat. But the best thing that DOB and Carroll do is pay attention to us baseball geeks who waste hours of the work day grinding out arguments over On Base Percentages, etc. Several times this year in stories they’ve mentioned fan discontent about this or that, and their barometer for that discontent comes from reading our post..

Further, there have been times that large numbers of blog denizens have wanted to know something, and DOB/Carroll actually went and found it out for them! Dude, that’s cool. That is special.

My point is, these guys listen to us and even to you. They report what their readers WANT TO KNOW and they do it well, and they do it thoroughly. If they make mistakes they hold themselves accountable.

I challenge you to tell me how they could be better reporters.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:44 pm

dogsbrekky – I have no problem with Mets mgt. They spend as much as anyone not named the Yankees and they do care about their fans. We have one of the best networks and they spare no expense on production or on air talent. Mets mgt flub’s stuff sometimes but they can’t hide behind a corporate veil when they do so they get labeled more. Sorry, but I’m glad the Wilpons own the Mets.

Shane

May 11th, 2009
12:45 pm

ditto Sethual ditto

James is Red

May 11th, 2009
12:45 pm

PWHjort – c’mon man. I respect your work here on the blog and you really add to the conversation, but I hope you’ll stop validating Anders and Reality’s existences on the blog with well thought out and earnest replies. These two guys really are scum bags. And it’s not because they are Mets fans. It’s not even because they are Mets fans that slink and slither in and out of a Braves blog because I’ll pretend to believe their explanation that they come here because its the best baseball blog on the planet (b/c that’s true). BUT … they are both the most disengenious posters I’ve ever seen. Ingratiating themselves to the blog as objective fans of baseball just long enough to then post their zingers, insult the team, elevate their own team, etc. Bubdylan articulated this much more eloquently a few weeks ago late night. Seriously – it is time to pretend these guys are not here.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:46 pm

dogsbrekky – What would you pay to take your 12:27 post back based on Reality’s 12:29? Looks like you have your own Donnis Brasco on your hands. You vouched for him and now you have to answer for that.

Shane

May 11th, 2009
12:47 pm

The only reason the Mets are valued so high is the market they are in. Not mgt decisions.

RHR

May 11th, 2009
12:48 pm

Reality –

his status in the Braves’ history makes him untouchable, and gives him the benefit of the doubt for as long as he continues to produce.

This is the popular viewpoint of intelligent Braves fans. And myself.

When the Braves GM signed Kawakami, it was out of desperation, because he wanted us to be like the other teams and have a Japanese player, didn’t matter what kind of thrower he is.

You should never be allowed to use the word “us” in public or on a public forum when referring to the Braves. Please keep that to yourself.

monty

May 11th, 2009
12:49 pm

Can’t let Wright and Beltran beat you. Don’t pitch to them with runners on,and a base open; let the old man Delgado beat you (if he can) or the other guys. My advice for Brave’s pitchers tonight.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:49 pm

Shane – Really? So why are the Islanders valued at the bottom of the NHL versus the Rangers and Devils? How about the Nets in the NBA? The Jets in the NFL? It’s not as simple as you would like it to be.

jason

May 11th, 2009
12:49 pm

DOB, could we get feeling on what BC and FW think about the young pitching at Gwinnet? The whole rotation looks impressive.

Anders

May 11th, 2009
12:51 pm

“Old Man Delgado” – Wow. You will be surprised for sure.

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:53 pm

Anders – “dogsbrekky – I have no problem with Mets mgt” – and that is why THEY WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING consistently……. and why you are used to the call of mediocrity……. with the talent they have had and the opportunity with the new stadium they could have really done something big…

but to answer for you – Here is why I think Minaya/Wilpons suck; the classless way they treated Willie Randolph, the joke with the patches they used to promote the new stadium, the signing of a sub-par gutless pitcher for $36M when they could have upped the ante for Lowe..

shall I go on and on ?

I will give them this, when they WIN they almost get a fair share of the NY media attention (almost) and they have at least kept many ticket prices near affordable levels unlike their empty stadium mates from the BRONX

.re. SNY – I agree, the station does an excellent, well balanced job of covering the mutts and baseball in general and I watch the station most days

The valuation of NYC baseball teams was based on expected figures, a bit like buying property in the city now. People think something is worth $850M but when they come to sell they will get bids at 55-60 cents on the buck..

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
12:56 pm

Anders – re vouching for someone, I am confused but unless it is my missus, family, dog or Air Force friends, then I DO NOT vouch for anyone…..

DAP

May 11th, 2009
12:59 pm

if you look at matsuzaka’s first year with the red sox, the ERAs are very close the first 6 games, and their K per 9 is pretty close as well. i think kawakami has actually proved to be pretty good, and a very gutsy pitcher. if life was fair he would be 4-2 right now.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
1:01 pm

Reality

Come on though man, seriously. Do you REALLY think any of us are content or loving that Chipper sits out relentlessly with “nagging injuries”? Do you think we are all enthralled that he is missing tonight’s game most likely and that he has played about 5 games actually HEALTHY this year? It’s just the way you phrased it, rubbing it in I guess.

I mean lets say Santana went down tonight during bullpen before the game with season-ending surgery. Next week all of you Met fans are on here and I ask: “Met fans, are you discouraged that Santana is out for the year or does it not really bother you that much? Does it bother you that he missed the game against the Braves and will miss the entire season leaving your team with zero opportunity for success now?”

I mean, I understand where you are trying to pour salt in the wound. That is the whole point of division rivals talking shyte to each other. But don’t ask something so obvious and stupid and expect any of us to be like: “Unfortunately, yes, Chipper gets injured bi-weekly now, but it doesn’t bother us. We like to see him on the bench and not in the lineup. Martin Prado and Omar Infante are just as talented and capable. They both are sure HOF’ers!” Is that what you wanted from us?

Cameron

May 11th, 2009
1:01 pm

Reality:

You have no clue what you are talking about. I think I have actually gotten dumber by reading your posts.

If you have a problem with DOB, or this blog, then don’t visit it. DOn’t read, post, are try to rage sarcastic debates. DOB and Carroll run a great blog. I continue to read this blog, and even comment sometimes, due to their work and of a very few of the bloggers. A lot of the people on here don’t think before the type, or really don’t know what they are talking about in the first place. You would fall into both of those categories. Please hold up your end of the deal you made with DOB.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
1:06 pm

Reality

Thanks for the ballpark info. I appreciate all MLB history, including Mets. So, I’ll definitely check into those things, plan on getting their early. Thanks again man.

MGL

May 11th, 2009
1:10 pm

The big difference in valuation between the Yankees and Mets is because the Yankees are New York’s team and the Mets are Queens’. In other-words, Yankees in drag.

W. T. Sherman

May 11th, 2009
1:10 pm

If the Mets have no pitching how do you explain those two games in Atlanta? A. Either it’s better than you thought it was or B. The braves are not as good as you thought they were. I guess we’ll see these next three games. I hope the regular braves line up plays so that we won’t have to read the exuses after the Mets give them a beat down in NYC.

Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!

May 11th, 2009
1:10 pm

Reality

I just got tickets in section 336. Not bad seats from what I see, right out in LF. Not quite upper-deck but not lower-deck, very reasonably priced (these days) for a pitching matchup like tonight’s IMO. I am very excited to see this park. This is where if you are a fan of the opposition comes in. I went to St. John’s so I have seen 100 games at Shea. I hated it there, but obviously loved to see my team instead of night class when they were in town. But Shea was at the point where if you didn’t live and breathe Mets baseball it was horrendous. It looks beautiful on SNYHD, so I can wait to get there. Thanks again.

Fred

May 11th, 2009
1:12 pm

Reality, You really have some nerve coming on this Braves blog to dish out childish personal insults towards DOB. But it’s a reflection on you, not DOB. And if DOB was as misinformed about Braves news as you suggest, why is this blog so popular? There are usually over 1,000 comments on each blog entry, even in the off-season. You brought up some mistakes DOB made about certain players potentially coming to the Braves. First of all, he never said Will Ohman was definitely signing with Atlanta, he just offered his opinion on the subject after talking directly with Ohman. Secondly, have you ever made a mistake on your job? Dude, we’re all human and make mistakes. However, mature and respectful adults just accept these things as mistakes and don’t get rude and nasty. Forgiveness is generally considered a positive quality. And by the way, in case you didn’t know this, Babe Ruth finished his career with the Braves.

W. T. Sherman

May 11th, 2009
1:13 pm

Chuck James—-Then why the h-ell do they give in a 3 year extension??

dogsbrekky

May 11th, 2009
1:15 pm

Georgia Bulldogs College Baseball – I met the 2nd SS from the GA college baseball team recently on a plane. I was wondering where I can find information to follow his progress.

Also, anyone who follows the MLB draft, are they seriously asking for $50M for this Strasburg kid and if he gets that amount what time frame does that cover etc ????

Anders

May 11th, 2009
1:17 pm

The Mets are valued where they are because they are in a huge market. The Nets play in NJ and throw out the hockey teams.Hockey comes in just ahead of bowling in popularity these days. The Jets which you mentioned are ranked 5th by Forbes magazine. Only the Cowboys Redskins Pats and er NEW YORK Giants are ranked ahead of them.

So YES THE METS are where they are because of their location not because of anything they have done.

beekay

May 11th, 2009
1:19 pm

The Nats are under an enormous amount of pressure here in DC to pay whatever it takes for Strasburg….attendance is way down in a ballpark not even 2 years old and the Lerners are being called out for being the cheapest owners in MLB. I predict he gets 40-45 mill from the Nats

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