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jason
May 9th, 2009
2:13 pm
here we second verse, san=me as th first. What the heck in BC thinking. I want to know so maybe I can understand. Try this one: SS Infante, CF Schaefer, 3B Jones, RF Francouer, C McCann, LF GA, 1B Kotchman, 2B KJ. I already see a loss coming, and o for 5 for KJ.
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
2:14 pm
To me Jojo looks like a leftie specialist not a starter.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:14 pm
Serge, if you see no problem with playing Infante in LF, you must not have seen a couple of his adventures out there last year. It was not pretty.
The Braves have two LFs on this roster, Diaz and Anderson. So I don’t think they’re going to play one of their two utility players (and backup CF), Infante, in LF.
Frank
May 9th, 2009
2:15 pm
I think people need to lay off Schafer. He’s a center fielder with an OBP in the .380’s and slugging .400. That’s really just not that bad.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:16 pm
DOB, I happen to agree with BC said about JoJo. I feel the same way. If JoJo can ever get to where he doesn’t have to make every pitch perfect he will be okay. He will actually be an important piece to this and future Brave rotations.
Hommy Tanson
May 9th, 2009
2:16 pm
For the loooooooooooooove of christ get rid of Ho-Ho….
Doc Holiday
May 9th, 2009
2:18 pm
WTF……….I just cant stand that old man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I admit it………I hate COX
KJ hitting leadoff?
He is so stoopeet, he needs a fullllllllllllllllllllll season to understand things………….
1. a full season to understand JF need to be sent down
2. A full season to understand that AJ was not an option to bat cleanup
3. a full season to understand that James was not a good option
4. Full season to understand wickman was awful
5. and so on
Now he wants to bat KJ leadoff………….. het thinks a few days off will do the trick…………this is idiotic. AJC.com should try to find out Coxs IQ so we all know what is really going on.
Its like mathematics……………KJ hitting leadoff………….horrible…………….KJ hitting 5-7 very good results…………..what do you then?? bat KJ leadoff………right??????????????????
Im going to kill myself……….cant stand anymore of this………..
stynes
May 9th, 2009
2:19 pm
Good to hear BC’s comments re: Jo-Jo. Patience when you see progress is a good thing. Too few people in MLB have that.
Dan
May 9th, 2009
2:20 pm
“He looks so much better than he used to. He’s so close to being good. You certainly don’t want to give up on him. We’re going to stick with him and see if he can get through this.”
From now I’m calling him: “Baghdad Bobby”
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:20 pm
ChopChop-I already conceded that if we continue to not hit and play Little League defense we will go nowhere. Anders, however, still thinks the Mets can compete with the Phillies, despite having no pitching. That’s what the argument was about-NOT me telling him we’d win while the Mets’ suck. The Mets DO suck, but we ain’t so great either. Not now anyway.
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
2:22 pm
Glad to hear Bobby is resigned to losing on Wednesday already and trying to help the Phillies on their way to a sweep this weekend w/ the lineup today…
Once again Bobby, KELLY IS NOT A LEADOFF HITTER!!!
I’m starting to be certain that Bobby needs
a) a psych eval to make sure all his faculties are still in working order (im sure theyre not)
b) to see BMac’s eye doctor because at this point he must be also certifiably blind!
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:22 pm
Jesus, Will somebody FIRE BOBBY COOKS already, sheesh his act is getting really tiresome,insomuch that i may have to become a Nats fan,Dammit Booby you lod fart stop with this loyalty CRAP….If a guys is stinkin the place up, bench him,bat him last,or just send him out!!! for cryin out loud…..
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:23 pm
That shoukld read Booby Kooks.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:23 pm
There is no patience in Braves land. Win or be damned. That’s why we don’t have any young pitching in the rotation. No patience. Let’s go spend bookoos of money on veteran pithchers to finish no better than third place. Reyes is in the 5 spot by default. That was glavine’s spot after all. BC says ” we still have a chance at the post season where anything can happen. We can go home after one series again. ‘
Serge
May 9th, 2009
2:23 pm
It was not pretty.
So was Andersons 2 Error game. You gotta take your losses when you can get em.
Im curious what Derek Lowe thought about Anderson when he had that catchable play go past his head. The look on Lowes face said a thousand words.
Jim
May 9th, 2009
2:23 pm
Dave,
The left field defense by those two left fielders has not been pretty this year either.
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
2:23 pm
Stynes-
Bobby has all the patience in the world…he’s 68 and he’s not going anywhere no matter how awful the Braves do….he’s going to die in his uniform in the dugout.
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:24 pm
I have been one of the more ardent supporters of Bobby Cox here, But Now IT IS TIME FOR THE OL BOOGER PICKER TO GOOOOOOO!!!!!
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
2:24 pm
Jason-
As Jim Mora would say:
Playoffffssss….Don’t talk about playoffs!
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:28 pm
Not talking going to them. Talking about BC thinking that the Braves have a chance in HEdouble hockey sticks of going there.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:29 pm
Jason-One and out in the playoffs would beat hell out of the results of 06-08.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:31 pm
P-Town Brave, Sorry poor grammar. meant Not talking about them going to the playoffs…. Thinking faster than I can type. Sad, I type pretty freaking slow…
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:32 pm
Lew, that shows you just how senial ol’ BC actually is.
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:35 pm
What next from the senile old fool???Schafer batting Clean-up??
Picture this it’s May 13 JoBlo Reyes on the mound, bases loaded 0 out two in and a 3-0 count on David Wright, just about the time ol JoBlo winds up BOOBY YELLS GETEM KID, and JoBlo Balks in the third run!!!!
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:36 pm
Jason-And how does that tell us anything about senility? Because we came in out of the money for three straight year? Who exactly do you think could have come in here and won those three years, with the pitching staff totally torn apart? Who do you think could come in here now with the personnel we have and do any better than Bobby Cox? Do you know of any manager that would have us hitting more Home Runs or hitting with RISP? Someone who could make JoJo more effective? Seriously?
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:37 pm
JoeBrave, I can actually see that happening. That is so sad, but so funny all the same.
N Nine
May 9th, 2009
2:37 pm
how he “dominated” some guys like Utley for most of the night. Bobby Cox
WTF What is wrong with our manager? Quotes like that give me ulcer. Is it just killing time for Glavine and he wants to give JoJo confidence? This is unacceptable and becoming a joke. Age has really caught up to ol’ Bobby.
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:40 pm
If you guys think JoBlo is bad wait til you get a load of Old Washed up Glavine!!!! Talk about needing to RETIRE
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:40 pm
NNIne-And would an invective laden rant to the press about how bad JoJo sucks, has always sucked and likely will ALWAYS suck have done anyone any good? Well, maybe it would have made you and some of the other more irrational bloggers happy, but not much of anyone involved with the Braves.
Frank
May 9th, 2009
2:41 pm
Dominated Utley? By holding him to 1-3 with a homerun?
Bobby has officially gone senile. That or he is an even bigger pollyanna than I originally imagined.
propp
May 9th, 2009
2:41 pm
they need jojo to have a few good starts and good words about him to get better trade in return
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:42 pm
Lew, if you read the blog all morning you would see where I am coming from. Look, you are right, noone could have done much more with what BC had/has to work with. But this team should have been in a rebuilding mode at least 5 years ago. You know back when we were getting put out in the first round of the play offs. The starters were worn thin, no offensive production. That’s all I am saying. The thing with Bobby is he rides certain players no matter what. Stays with what has been proven doesn’t work. Is everything BC’s fault. No, but he is the one in charge of the team.
Confused
May 9th, 2009
2:43 pm
Is it possible that the pitching match-up for today’s game is not available on the AJC’s Braves page? I’ve looked on other days and also not found it. Shouldn’t that be one of the absolutely required items on a newspaper’s page for its hometown team? I guess I’m going to have to go to some other site to find out who’s pitching today.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:43 pm
Jeff Bennett has been remarkably hittable. We’re talking 23 hits in 13-2/3 innings. We’re talking an absurd .397 opp average and .448 OBP, including a .467 avg by right-handed batters, who are 14-for-30 with three walks and a .500 OBP against him.
Lefties are “only” hitting .321 (9-for-28) with a .387 OBP against him.
With runners on base, he’s allowed a .417 avg (15-for-36).
In his first 15 pitches of an appearance, opp are batting .444 (16-for-36) against him.
Just terrible.
N Nine
May 9th, 2009
2:44 pm
LEW I understand all that, but we need to get REAL.We have struggled for 3-4 years now, We need a tough guy like sweet Lou. The clubhouse culture needs a tuneup…
mbatl
May 9th, 2009
2:45 pm
More on my Manny/Boras conspiracy theory:
(the first part being that Manny delayed signing so long knowing that he’d be tested in ST, and hoping that the longer he waited, the less likely he’d test positive.)
Now comes word from Rosenthal that because so much of Manny’s salary is deferred, he’ll only lost about $2.7 mil, instead of the $7-8 mil previously reported.
It’s just so clear that Boras negotiated this contract with full knowledge that Manny had been juicing, which is bad-faith negotiation. I think there’s much more to come on this.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:45 pm
DOB, love the use of the word “ONLY” in that post. “only” hitting .321
Supes
May 9th, 2009
2:45 pm
There is no “patience” with the young starting pitchers? WTF? How many more chances does Jo-Jo needs to get? It’s not like he’s the next coming of Zack Greinke!
Bobby Cox with his “he’s so close comment” :THUD: Are you kidding us? “Close to what?” Being someone who is mentally fragile (can’t overcome errors and or walks, or not getting calls)
Jo-Jo is the next “Horacio Ramizer”, expect Ho-Ram won 10 games (at least one season). A journey man left hander, who is ONLY starting right now b/c he’s 1. Left Handed, 2. Tommy G isn’t activated yet…3 Braves didn’t want to start Medlin’s or Hanson’s clock…and 4. Charlie Morton’s unability to come through during Spring Training and outpitch him then.
Oh, and the NEW blog format ate 2 of my POSTS already. So much for “wordpress” being so much better. Shame too…I called out Doc Holiday pretty good!
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:45 pm
Confused, if you’d stop complaining and just ask, we’ll put it here for you. Probably someone just forgot to post it. It’s in the paper:
— Pitching matchup: RH Javier Vazquez (2-3, 4.19 ERA) vs. RH Joe Blanton (1-2, 6.84 ERA).
Vazquez is 0-2 with a 6.75 ERA in his past two starts, after going 2-1 with a 2.63 ERA in his first four starts. He’s 2-0 with a 2.00 ERA in three road starts…. Blanton got his first win Monday at St. Louis with four hits and one run allowed in six innings, the first time in five starts that he gave up fewer than eight hits or three runs and didn’t surrender a homer.
— What to watch for: Vazquez is 10-4 with a 4.09 ERA in 20 starts against the Phillies, but 0-3 with a 7.14 ERA in the past four, all in Philadelphia. He gave up seven homers in 24 innings in those. Raul Ibanez is 6-for-16 with three homers against him…. Blanton got scorched in two starts against the Braves, posting a 13.50 ERA and .400 opponents’ average while allowing 12 hits and nine runs in just six combined innings. His teams, however, won both games (he got no decisions). Brian McCann is 3-for-3 with a homer against him.
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
2:46 pm
You know I’d rather see Schafer hit lead off. Even if he K’s he’d see more than 1 pitch like KJ tends to.
Also I’ve heard many times Joe Simpson say the Braves want KJ to be aggressive…WTF Why do you want your lead off hitter to be aggressive?
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:46 pm
One has to wonder how Booby decides which pinch hitter to use, Lemme see,if I pick the right nostrile and it’s green then Norton gets the ab,if it’s yellow then Diaz
Left nostril,and it’s green then Prado, and if it’s yellow then Ross gets the call!!! Some Genius there huh???
Frank
May 9th, 2009
2:47 pm
Nah, can’t be. People here in the 2007 offseason were saying Bennett was a future ace.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:48 pm
little tightly wound eh, Supes.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:49 pm
We’ve thrown down a Tug’s BBQ beef sandwich platter and consumed 5-6 cups of coffee. Fully rejuvenated and ready to roll. Let’s do this.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:50 pm
bravos 2249, I think KJ does need to be more aggresive. I also think KJ
needs to hitting 6th or 7th.
Jim
May 9th, 2009
2:51 pm
Someone on a previous page was ranting about JoJo and Morton, and said Morton had his chance and we saw what he could do. Morton was in the rotation for 2 and 1/2 months, at the end of which he was slowed by an injury. He showed flashes during that period, but did not come up and immediately dominate (unlike Chuck James did in his first year.) He has had far too little opportunity at the ML level to indicate the pitcher he may be. JoJo has had more opportunity and has been inconsistent, but last night’s start was his only terrible start of the year. He had pitched quite well in his two previous starts. From 1988-1990 Glavine was mediocre at best. He began to dominate in 1991. Smoltz was inconsistent during the first part of 1991 before his sessions with the sports psychologist. Avery took two years to put it all together. The clock is ticking on JoJo, but there is still a bit more time for patience before a more acurate verdict can be reached.
Hanson has not pitched more than 6 innings in any of his starts at AAA this year. He may be better than JoJo or KK, but he needs to be brought along at his own pace, not rushed into a situation in which he is not quite ready to excel.
JoeBrave
May 9th, 2009
2:52 pm
One has to wonder, if Liberty Media envisions a remake of the Bad News Bears?? or in this case the Bad news Braves!!!!
Frank
May 9th, 2009
2:52 pm
The 2007 patient KJ was the best version there was. This “aggressive” version leaves a lot to be desired.
He has one of the better eyes on the team. Let him take pitches and walk!
Confused
May 9th, 2009
2:52 pm
Thanks, DOB. My point is more that *you* shouldn’t have to post that on top of everything else. It should just be on the site every day. OK, enough complaining. I appreciate the response.
jason
May 9th, 2009
2:53 pm
Amen Jim, I completely agree…
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:54 pm
jason-I have read the blog all morning and posted a good bit of that time. Sorry I didn’t hang on your every word, but I seem to remember having some good conversations with some others.
As for rebuilding the past five years. Dude, do you have any comprehension of how a club is run and put together? Do you understand the finance problems involved in running a ML club these days? Do you understand that with corporate ownership we couldn’t boost payroll to get extra parts that might have been better. Do you realize that even with a youth movement that you need to have a mix of veterans, too?
First of all, it is the GM’s job-NOT the manager’s-to put a club together and to obtain the players for the manager to manage. That has been John Schuerholz and Frank Wren and NOT Bobby Cox. Second of all, the Braves had players under contract like Hampton and others injured that were not contributing. In MLB you still have to pay players when you dump them or if they’re on the DL. We also had players under contract who were nearing the end of their stay with the Braves (Smoltz, Andruw and others) making a lot of money that we were contractually responsible for. How can you rebuild when you are paying veterans?
How many rookie or young players have the Braves played the past five years? The last year we won the Division we had 18 rookies play that year, I seem to remember. How is that NOT rebuilding?
Things have not gone as well as fans may have liked the past couple seasons, but to sit there and actually think we’re not in rebuilding mode and haven’t been in aid mode for some time now is naive.
dogsbrekky in Filthy Filly
May 9th, 2009
2:58 pm
Okay, trying this from a new phone. Nicer here in Filly than I imagined and this is a nice ball park
Even think we can hit a few bombs today… Go Javier
Dobi and Gil etc, if you are free after the game, we are heading to Rittenhouse Sq for a few billion drinks
Lew
May 9th, 2009
2:59 pm
NNIne-And what exactly is “getting real”? We need a guy like Pinella who can’t get one of the most talent laden teams in all of MLB past the first round of the playoffs? Who couldn’t take the talent that the Rays had in that overstocked Farm System and even turn in a .500 season?
Maybe you need to “Get Real” if you think he would do any better than Cox. Yeah, he might throw third base acrosss the infield, but actually win something significant? Not in recent history. Maybe we could get GI Joe Girardi to come in and ruin Hansen, Morton and Medlen like he did the Marlins’ kids. Would that be real enough for you?
Jim
May 9th, 2009
3:00 pm
Another factor working against the young starting pitching last year was the lack of a bullpen. Soriano and Moylan were injured, Gonzalez was just coming back from TJ surgery, Boyer and Ohman were overworked, and Bennett was Bennett and Acosta was Acosta. They were asked to carry more of the load than they were ready to and had numerous of their inherited runners come around to score.
KC
May 9th, 2009
3:03 pm
What is BC’s fascination with Anderson in the cleanup hole??? Yes, Anderson’s hit there a lot in his career, but he’s not a cleanup hitter anymore. He cannot provide Chipper with the kind of protection in the order that McCann can. I don’t get it. But then… It wouldn’t be the first time I’ve had a hard time understanding Bobby’s logic.
Supes
May 9th, 2009
3:03 pm
jason, not really. It just quite annoying to read comments like “we have to be more patient around here”, since Braves fans are some of the most patient fans around! We are tired of losing and mediocrity sir, nothing more. Also patience has to be justified! Figured I’d throw that in as a freebie for you.
Lew…right on. It’s ON frank wren…the current roster as constructed. If this team fails it’s going to be a combination of Wren, Cox (not using players correctly, as in KJ..LEADING OFF AGAIN!), and last but not least the players underperforming.
Oh, and since my post got lost earlier today, I figured I’d say it again…but maybe me calling out Kotchman on the blog about his lack of HR production worked!:) HRs in back to back games!
Doc Holiday…Calm yourself sir, b/c even I am starting to question your sanity. Don’t let the losing and Bobby get to you so much. At the end of the day, just a game huh?
jason
May 9th, 2009
3:03 pm
Lew, the hampton deal is what really set the Braves back. I see what you are saying. But again, young Braves pitchers were being passed over for veterans such as Hampton. The win at all costs cost ATL getiing these young pitchers playing time and expirence. The last time ATL won the division was with alot of young players. I think it was one of the best years in the stretch because of the youth. Where are those young players now? How have they developed? You are right though. it is more on the mgt dept than BC. They knew the restraints set by the corprate owner. Also, I think they have been in arebuilding mode for a few years, but also they have been playing for the post season. You can’t have it both ways or you will end playing .500 baseball. The position players will play, but the young pitching will suffer.
LKS
May 9th, 2009
3:04 pm
Bobby, please please retire the end of this year. I CANNOT believe he is once again batting KJ leadoff. This is soooo frustrating. I do think JO Jo has potential but I mean really how many more chances does he get?!?!? I would much rather see Morton out there.
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:04 pm
Lew – no comment on John Maine’s 7 innings of 3-hit, 1 run baseball today?
Lew
May 9th, 2009
3:07 pm
jason-Who has been passed over for Hampton? When you have to pay a guy and he can pitch then it’;s nothing but common sense to let him pitch-especially since by the time he was ready last year it was hopeless anyway.
But who did he block? Davies? Morton? Chuck James? JoJo? Parr? Campillo? Bennett? Carlyle? Hanson? Dude, we had so many pitching injuries the past several years, we pitched whoever had an arm attached to their bodies. Maybe some were rushed, but blocked? No Freaking way.
dogsbrekky in Filthy Filly
May 9th, 2009
3:07 pm
mbatl – I just finally got to read this whole page
Are you sure about the payment of Manny’s contract even if he isn’t playing…. if you are correct one Mr Frankie McCourt will almosy certainly take action…….. I know there were rumors he wanted to sue Andruw for turning up out if shape…
Is there anything in mlb player/owner relations that accounts for drug cheats ??
Jim
May 9th, 2009
3:08 pm
Given the players in today’s starting lineup, what order should they bat? Who would you bat leadoff? Schafer?
The only possible candidate other than KJ is Yunel. That did not work out too well last year either.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
3:09 pm
Met’s Fan-I’d have had to actually cared enough to, have been paying attention. In case you hadn’t noticed, NO ONE on this blog has commented on it until YOU, a Met’s fan came to tell us. Do you get the feeling we really care much more about our team and their problems and don’t really give a damn about the Mets?
Chop Chop
May 9th, 2009
3:11 pm
Maine pitched six innings of 1 run, 3 hit ball, MetsFan. Nevertheless, the guy is pitching better. That’s a good sign for the Mets.
Chop Chop
May 9th, 2009
3:13 pm
Jo-Jo has to go. I don’t give a damn how “close” Bobby thinks the kid is. We’ve got Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens and Kawakami under contract for next season. Maybe I’m an imbecile (insert agreement here), but something tells me that Tommy Hanson will also be in that 2010 rotation. Jo-Jo will not. Jo-Jo will likely be a trade piece in a deadline deal (if we’re in the hunt) or in the offseason. I’d rather not have the guy screw up any trade value he might have now by being a bum in the rotation for a few more starts.
Where do I think Jo-Jo wouldn’t be a bum? Well, I happen to agree with the “Jo-Jo as lefty reliever” folks. Left-handed hitters are hitting .209 with a .649 OPS against him during his career. Righties are roasting him at a .928 OPS clip. Seems pretty cut and dried to me, though I can understand the reluctance by guys who scouted and vetted the kid to relegate him to a lefty relief role. Nevertheless, such reluctance is also stubbornness. Jo-Jo has made 36 starts in the bigs. His ERA is just under 6. If he can best help this team as a lefty reliever, then that’s where he ought to be.
dogsbrekky in Filthy Filly
May 9th, 2009
3:14 pm
Maine is a bonehead with reasonably good stuff, still would not want him in a high pressure situation
he looked okay in that game against us when he got angry and just let fly with good fastballs, but from the many games I have seen him in, he just has no fight at all, no mongrel in his dog (as it were) like most of his p-soft team-mates……….. Sheff is the only dude there with kahunas
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:14 pm
Actually, Lew, I do….since you guys spend about a third of your time talking about how much the Mets suck, while the whole time these past two weeks the majority of Met starters have been going deep into games and giving quality starts, while the Braves have been sinking towards the cellar.
You seem to think if you shout the myth that the Mets have “no starters” loud enough and long enough, it’ll be true. But, the actual truth is the Mets’ rotation is shaping up to be pretty solid–not spectacular, certainly not awful, but most likely good enough to support a winning ballclub. And far from the disaster that Braves fans would like everyone to believe.
But, the truth never got in the way of an Atlanta Braves fan. Release Hampton!
mbatl
May 9th, 2009
3:14 pm
dogsbrekky, well, I think I mis-stated a little… Manny still loses 50 games worth of pay, but the loss is spread out over several years. So the Dodgers don’t save $7 mil this year, only $2.7 – but they do save in the out years during the deferred payments.
Still, I think Boras knew that this might (or was likely to) happen and that’s why he held out (despite better offers earlier) and structured the deal the way he did. I’m not so obsessed with Manny’s testing positive, but I think the issue of an agent having knowledge of his client’s PED use might come into play here. (If I’m the Dodgers, I’m p*ssed, and looking for revenge).
Jake W.
May 9th, 2009
3:15 pm
MetsFan, its the Pirates, their offense is lousy.
dogsbrekky in Filthy Filly
May 9th, 2009
3:16 pm
chop chop – agree with everything you just wrote, JoJo is a reliever option, but you and I are neither GM nor Manager of one ATL Bravos
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:17 pm
Chop Chop – thanks for the correction, you’re right. And thanks also for being objective enough in your comment to admit something positive about the Mets. (Lew is much too blinded by his homer glasses to ever do that). And in return, I can admit that when you guys finally do call up Hanson, he’s going to be scary good.
N Nine
May 9th, 2009
3:18 pm
Lew you’re one tough puppy. I’m backing off. You must enjoy watching Cox pick his nose.
Lou was just an example, and was trying to say we need a tougher manager. We’re in last in all of baseball for runs scored in 7,8,9th combined. We lose close games, and Cox is still calm and unresponsive. I can not defend the guy, getting REAL, is for making changes since this isn’t working, I’m done talking about this at the moment-LEW you can chew me out all you want for being “irrational blogger” , I’ll accept it.
Braveheart
May 9th, 2009
3:21 pm
MBATL, shouldn’t Boras know or at least ask his client if he can pass a drug screen and try to time things accordingly? Is it much different than a criminal defense lawyer holding off on accepting a plea deal until he absolutely has to because he knows his client will fail a drug screen as soon as he is put on probation? Or accepting a plea, but putting off the sentencing long enough that the drugs will be out of his system by the time his client is drug screened?
oldschool
May 9th, 2009
3:21 pm
Score today braves 8-6.chipper,kj and anderson with homers
LKS
May 9th, 2009
3:21 pm
Jim
Personally, I would have sat Schaf today give him a day off. Its obvious he needs it. Then Infante would bat leadoff and leave KJ to bat 6 or 7. But I don’t get paid the big bucks to make those types of decisions.
jason
May 9th, 2009
3:21 pm
N Nine couldn’t agree more
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
3:22 pm
MetsFan
Thanks for your comments. I like opposing fans like you. We can jar back and forth and such. With it being sat. did you get blacked out of the Mets game?
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
3:22 pm
How ’bout tomorrow’s matchup on TBS, Kawakami vs. Myers:
Kawakami is 0-2 with a 9.31 ERA in two road starts, and 0-2 with a 10.13 ERA in two day games (he has a 3.94 ERA in three night games). He hasn’t faced the Phillies….
Myers is 0-3 with an 8.59 ERA and .403 opponents’ average and six homers allowed in his past three starts against the Braves, including an opening-day loss when he gave up four runs and three homers in six innings.
Brian McCann is 11-for-30 with two homers against Myers, Chipper Jones is 12-for-33 with three homers against him, and Jordan Schafer is 2-for-2 with a homer.
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:22 pm
Jake W. – Maine also shut down the Braves last time he faced them. And the start before that, 6 innings against the Marlins, allowing 1 hit. Same excuse?
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:25 pm
bravos…same to you. Nothing wrong with a little bit of debate as long as it’s civil. On this board, sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn’t. And, no blackout here today. I guess the game started early enough that FOX thinks it’ll be over by time the game of the week starts.
jason
May 9th, 2009
3:25 pm
MetsFan, no excuse. Our Offense sucks. How many walks did Maine have? How many runs did the Braves score? Even if Maine did suck, as sorry as ATL’s offense is , we would have just made him look like Mr. Cy Young. ATl has done a good job of that so far this year.
Jim
May 9th, 2009
3:26 pm
I too would sit Schafer today, play Infante in CF, and bat him leadoff. But given that Infante is NOT in the starting lineup, who else is there to lead off?
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
3:26 pm
dogsbrekky: what were you expecting? Philly’s a good town, and the ballpark is beautiful; it’s just the small dimensions that mess it up a bit. The view of downtown Philly in the distance is outstanding.
oldschool
May 9th, 2009
3:27 pm
I think phillie lineup will rip us a new one tomorrow and kk will find out what he has got to do to be successfull in the nl east
Jake W.
May 9th, 2009
3:30 pm
MetsFan I consider myself an unbiased fan. Having said that, I’m sure you realize our offense stinks right? You visit the blog, its nothing new now. Were actually worse offensively right now than the Pirates. Not to mention we were missing one of our best hitters and one of the best hitters in the game in McCann and some guy named Garrett Anderson. He effectively pitched around Chipper which didn’t leave much.
Florida’s got a good lineup, so i’ll give you credit for that. It did help Maine that he didn’t have to face their best hitter in Hanley Ramirez. Nevertheless Maine has done better. We’ll see if it continues.
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:31 pm
Jason…if your offense sucks, why is it that before the season started, all of you were talking about this great lineup of “professional hitters” that you had? What changed? And yes, Anderson and McCann were out for a short time, but every team deals with injuries. I just want to know how your lineup went from a team that could “single, double, and triple a team to death” (actual quoute from someone on this board) to a team against whom a good pitching performance means nothing?
Daybed Wagmoe
May 9th, 2009
3:32 pm
DOB, given those stats that you posted at 3:22, I wouldn’t be surprised if the total number of runs scored in the game (by both sides) is 4 or below.
Jim
May 9th, 2009
3:32 pm
Maine and Pelfry are not as bad as Lew suggests nor quite as good as Anders hopes. The only relevance for the Braves is how well their starting pitching is and how much support the offense (and defense) can provide. The Braves have to win their games, not wait for the Mets (and Phils and Marlins) to lose theirs.
mbatl
May 9th, 2009
3:32 pm
Braveheart, you’re probably right. I definitely think a defense attorney has every right and obligation to use every trick in the book – not so sure that applies to agents in MLB. I’m no legal expert, just have a feeling there’s something here that won’t sit right with MLB teams and especially the Dodgers.
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:34 pm
Jim….THANK YOU. I think that’s the perfect way to put it. Maine and Pelfrey are both good pitchers. Not Cy Youngs, but Lew wants you to think they’re all…Jo-Jos.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
3:35 pm
Leonard Cohen played Philly last night, and I’m almost glad we had a night game, since tix for Cohen were $179. yes, $179. Never seen him live, so I’d have probably considered buying a ticket, but wow, that’s steep.
Then again, it’s about what you pay for any good seat to a current broadway play or whatever.
On a different note, Mike Watt (of the great old punk band Minutemen) is playing Philly tonight, for about one-tenth the price of the Cohen tix. Might try to get over to see that show.
jason
May 9th, 2009
3:35 pm
MetsFan, I am wondering the thing. I thought we would have been a good lineup top to bottom with doubles and such. The main power source being McCann with 25 to 30 bombs, but everyone in the line up cabable of hitting 10 or more. When you figure that one out let me know.
Just so you know I wasn’t bashing Maine. In my opionion he’s good mid rotation guy. Foloowed him as an oriole, and a bluejay.
cabravesfan
May 9th, 2009
3:37 pm
P-Town, you are my hero!
MetsFan
May 9th, 2009
3:39 pm
Currently 10-1, Mets over Pirates. Just sayin’…
dogsbrekky in Filthy Filly
May 9th, 2009
3:39 pm
Dobi – my response didnt come out
but I agree, I actually like Filly, just do not want to encourage the locals too much and sometimes I just want to get out of here without a brawl breaking out
We are going to TRIA after the game………..which is 18th street right on the park area at Rittenhouse Square if anyone can make it after the game…….. probably start at 8pm or so
Jake W.
May 9th, 2009
3:40 pm
“I just want to know how your lineup went from a team that could “single, double, and triple a team to death” (actual quoute from someone on this board) to a team against whom a good pitching performance means nothing?”
Becuase were not doing the basics, you know ABC baseball. Some are not hitting at all. Overall this lineup has greatly underachieved but don’t kid yourself. Not having Brian McCann or Garrett Anderson who were suppose to protect Chipper has hurt. Chipper was basically pitched around that whole homestand so it was like we were missing three players. That’s my honest assessment so you can take it or leave it. Don’t play down the injuries as some hurt more than others. If you guys lose Johan best believe you’re gonna mention that if you guys don’t win the division.
Mixxo
May 9th, 2009
3:41 pm
Lets Go!!
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
3:41 pm
Phillies wearing their hideous Little League uniforms today
Stephen
May 9th, 2009
3:41 pm
And Kelly pops out, great way to lead it off, whew.
Stephen
May 9th, 2009
3:42 pm
Rofl @ DOB 3:41