Dogs-You and Gil say hello to each other for me. I’ll be there in spirit-just don’t really want to physically be back in the town of my birth. Had enough of that.
I believe Glavine lost like 17 games in 1987, and he turned out pretty fair. After sleeping on it, I think I would give JoJo another shot, but on a very, very short leash. Come to think of it, I would have my long guy on the edge of his seat with his jacket off and glove on from inning one.
It is nothing short of INSANE that Jo Jo Reyes is getting starts!! The man has lost 9 straight games and has not won a start in his last 17 starts now?!?! What freakin more do you need to know?? Until washed up stiff Glavine can maybe come back, just end this little stupid game you’re playing holding back Hanson. He is guaranteed to take his lumps but he will be far more productive then Reyes will ever dream to be. This is senial to continue to guarantee your team a loss before the game starts. Yeh, Jo Jo Reyes = Bum. Why don’t the Braves see that? I could see if Tommy Hanson was non-existent….However he is very alive!
What I dont get is how can it be possible for this team to have zero power if cox loves to wait for the 3 run HR……..he like pitching defense and HR……….and we ha no defense and 0 power…… kind of strange.
Frankie Knuckles: The people who make the decisions certainly aren’t selling Medlen short. I don’t know who you’re referring to, but nobody around the team or covering the team sells him short, pardon the pun (he’s actually quite short, about 5-7 or 5-8, but doesn’t matter — dude can flat-out pitch).
Anders-Don’t kid yourself. The Braves will go nowhere if they don’t kick it up a couple notches, but the Mets’ pitching is bad after Santana. Very bad. Pelfrey and Maine are, at best, inconsistent. After that you have nothing-and don’t try to tell us you have minor league options. Your only hope is that the Phillies pitching (after Hamels if he’s really back to normal) is just as bad if not worse. Mets don’t have the Phillies’ offense, though, so it’ll be harder for you to compensate.
Flange1- If Frenchy is having trouble covering that postage stamp in Philly, wait until he see’s what’s waiting for him in Flushing. lot’s and lot’s of green.
Schafer will be worth all the strikeouts when you see the ground he has to cover. The outfield is enormous.
It seems to go back to the same logic all these great pitchers with losing records when they started out all played on bad teams. Once Braves mgt wakes up and understands this, ATL will be able to go foward. not just pitching, but the entire team. Simply put. the Braves need to rebuild now. Not tomorrow, but now.
Flange1-…Agree that the Braves has to stop those miscute error…But that ball that Coste hit to yunel was a soft line witha lot spins in, he hit that ball at the end of the bat, as soon that ball hit the ground has another spin & eat up yunel…
Jason….well I don’t agree with the Houston philosophy and I will tell you why. A starting pitcher must be conditioned to going 9 innings. That has to be the mentality. Certainly that isn’t going to happen on any regular basis with all the specialty pitchers and especially in the NL. The bullpen, while very important as we saw last year, is more for shorter pitch count guys and the mental approach is different.
A real good future starter like a Hanson needs to be out there ramping up from the get go to throw well over 100 pitches on each and every start. Maybe that will get you 9 innings or 6-7 who knows. Constantly throwing a couple of innings out of the pen is not the way to develop a great starter. Not saying that Houston didn’t get that from some pitchers though.
Jason – Agreed. I realize that they should work him into the rotation slowly and put him in the best position to have success. I certainly think that Jo – Jo “has the stuff” to be a successful major league pitcher…they just need to rethink their plan for him.
vabravesfan – Medlin is definitely a quality pitcher but unlike Hanson, he doesn’t have dominating stuff. He may very well turn out to be the more reliable prospect, but until the Braves fall completely out of the race (which could be sooner rather than later) he will not be in the starting rotation.
From what I have seen of this team so far, I believe that they are headed for a fourth place finish. They don’t do the little things well that winning ball clubs do (play great defense, run the base paths well, clutch late inning hits, nor comeback victories). There is just SOMETHING missing from this group of players that is hard to explain…hope I’m wrong.
P-Town-Just got a call from my Retinal surgeon. No laser this time, but another intravitriol injection. yet another needle in the eye. Number ten on that procedure. Life is so much fun.
Jo-Jo Reyes is keeping the fifth slot warm until Glavine is ready to go.
The Braves don’t want to start the clock on Hanson or any of their other young pitchers for that matter. All in all, Frank Wren is hedging his bets and I don’t blame him one bit.
Lew- You and others are the same one’s that told me the Braves had a lock down starting rotation. So what makes you think you’re qualified to assess the Mets ST? Vasquez is what I said he was. a .500 innings eater. Big deal. Kawakami was a shot in the dark that looks like a huge mistake. They have no 5th starter in sight. This was supposed to be the strength of the Braves. What happened there?
Maine has won 15 games, Perez has won 15 games. Pelfrey is coming into his own and Livan has been what was expected. If 3 of the 4 collapse then the Mets are sunk. If 3 of the 4 pitch to their potential the Mets have more than enough offense and certainly the bullpen to win.
BTW- Niese looked very solid last night. He had a lot of Glavine mannerisms in how he carried himself on the mound. Not comparing him as a pitcher, just in body langauge for what it’s worth – which isn’t much.
DOB, has anyone told Brian McCann to try Rain-X on the inside of his Oakley’s to stop the freakin’ fogging? I’ve used it on motorcycle helmets for years of winter riding–the stuff is like magic.
Actually Anders-The Braves’ failures to this point are NOT as a result of poor pitching-especially the starters. They are performing better than the Mets’ or Phillies’ staffs to this point of the season-by a quite wide margin. As for the pen-their first 29 innings pitched resulted in 28 earned runs-an almost 9.00 ERA. In the intervening games (18) they have pitched just shy of 52 innings and given up 12 earned runs-a 2.00 ERA.
Our losses have resulted from some of the poorest defense I’ve seen in years and a total lack of timely hitting-much less a lack of power. Pitching has kept us in games, hitting has failed us.
Doc Holiday ..dido with lew Assessment, Wait until Met/Phillis gone to The West Coast(La/SanF)
i thinl this Race on the East going to be Close to the end..
Anders-No fifth starter in sight? Dude, they have at least three-Morton, Medlen and Hanson. You have heard of Hanson, haven’t you? He’s the number four prosect in all of the Majors and is worlds ahead of anyone the Mets have to run in there.
If Kelly is “struggling” (Hes hit .398 in May) What do you call what Anderson has been doing David? — Sarge
What do I call what Anderson’s been doing? Uh, mostly I call it sitting on the bench while on the DL. He’s played FOUR GAMES since returning from a 15-day DL stint, Sarge. Four games.
You’re missing the point entirely, too — it’s not as if Cox has benched KJ just to bench him. He’s benched him because he had a hotter hitter (Infante) in the leadoff spot, a guy who also has played solid enough defense at 2B.
Do you propose that the Braves bench G. Anderson after finally getting him off the DL? After we’ve heard Cox go on and on about how much he’s going to mean to the lineup, etc? Are you dealing with the reality of the situation, or just what you wish it was, Sarge? Who you putting in LF, by the way?
Anderson should be benched based on the four games he’s played since returning from the DL, including a three-RBI game in Florida and a hard-hit double last night? Hey, I’m not impressed with what he’s done so far, either, but let’s be realistic. You make decisions based on the personnel you have, not just decisions made in a vacuum. They signed Anderson to a free-agent deal, a veteran who was not going to have to win a job or prove he belonged in the lineup. Again, reality. So once he got healthy, he was going to play.
And unless and until he stinks it up for a lot longer than four days, he’s going to play. Especially when the LF options are, what, Diaz and B. Jones?
Again, getting back to the point: Kelly has been pushed aside temporarily by a hotter hitter and a guy who’s been doing quite well in the leadoff spot. Is that wrong?
Kelly is 5-for-13 with a double, no RBI and two walks in May. Is that a huge turnaround or something? Infante is 9-for-28 (.321) with a homer and five RBI in May. So what? Is May 1 significant or something, a date from which things must be evaluated?
Kelly is 9-for-52 (.173) with one extra-base hit and two RBI since April 16. Do you and OldBravesBag really thinking he’s being treated unfairly? And if Cox was playing him every day, there’d be five times as many (at least) here saying Cox was screwing up by not playing Infante, or Prado.
In the leadoff spot, Infante has hit .383 (18-for-47) with three doubles, a homer, seven RBI and a .434 OBP and .835 OPS.
KJ in the leadoff spot: 14-for-68 (.206) with two doubles, one triple, three homers, nine RBI and a .289 OBP and .686 OPS.
So KJ being 5-for-13 with a double and no RBI in May is supposed to be the main reason you’d move him back to the lineup and Infante back to the bench?
Jason…..just saw another one of your posts and agree. You can’t keep holding back starters pitch counts. Assuming they have the spring training to ramp up they have to be unbridled. Many pitchers now can’t get past a certain point without folding.
I have to say that throwing a 100 pitches is nothing and so many think that is some great benchmark. I mean the dude throws once every 5 days. You are being paid millions to throw 100 pitches plus and work 1-2 days a week.
I don’t mean to downplay it or simplify the position but really is it too much to ask the starter to give us over 100 pitches consistently. I don’t think so. Sabathia went 9 innings last night.
vabraves fan, not arguing, but how many innings did they throw? Rock on, the BP thing to me is more confidence builder than Pitch counts. Putting hin the right situation to succeed. Go from BP to the 5 slot. Once there he can work on increased pitch counts and eat innings. Also working in the 5 slot he will be afforded extra days rest if need be.
So KJ being 5-for-13 with a double and no RBI in May is supposed to be the main reason you’d move him back to the lineup and Infante back to the bench?
No but its justification to play the “hot hand”.
The reason you move him back to the lineup is because he is the better hitter. Career numbers ..271 .354 .438 .791 vs Omars .263 .307 .392 .699
Playing the inferior player never works. But its something Bobby loves to do. I still remember how he would play Keith Lockhart over Marcus Giles.
and regarding Anderson. Hes terrible. Has been terrible since Spring training.
Anderson this season .175 .233 .275 .508 he makes the “Strugling” Kelly look like an MVP. Theres no reason why you cant move Omar to LF, Kelly to 2B and Anderson to the bench. Anderson is our worst player by a large margin. Any “Benefits” you get by benching Kelly you loose by starting anderson
ChipChopper: There’s also Cat Crap, a spectacularly named and quite-effective product used on bike goggles and ski goggles. I forwarded the link someone sent me this morning to a motorcycle mag story on Cat Crap.
Now that we all have seen a full months worth of this years version of our beloved Braves, where do you guys realistically see this team finishing (as currently constituted)?
Anyone who thinks Infante, a career .260’s hitter and a low career OBP guy is suddenly a legit .333 hitter or a .400 OBP guy is living in the land of Oz.
Coach….don’t blame Wren one bit? Assuming the idea is to win ball games the day they are played, I blame him.
So you are going to pay the stiff Glavine another million to trot out there in place of Jo Jo just because you don’t want to start the clock on Hanson? OK, so why not bring up Medlin, Morton, et al instead of Glavine. Save a million and get a better pitcher to boot in the 5th slot and get him some experience.
I have said for about 6 months I respect what Glavine has done in his HOF career but Wren should tell him it is over and time to move on to Cooperstown.
The reason you move him back to the lineup is because he is the better hitter. Career numbers ..271 .354 .438 .791 vs Omars .263 .307 .392 .699 — Serge
Oh, OK. So you apply that reasoning to 2B, but not to Garrett Anderson, right?
DOB about the team hotels…I have a media guide from 2 years ago and so far, all the hotels you’ve told people the team stays in when asked is the same as whats listed in the 07 media guide. Do teams often switch up hotels or do they pretty much stay in the same ones year after year?
What’s your take on players being approached at their hotel? I have always heard that they didn’t like to be approached at the hotels. Not by autograph seekers anyway lol.
Rock on, thank you. I think teams are paying to much money for these kids and by far are pampering them to much.Heck make them earn some of their money first. The CG is a lost art. If you could get a CG 50% of the time from your ace, how mush wear and tear could you save on your BP?
Braves73, to answer your question. Barring injury… 3 to 4 place around .500 again. The sad part is they will put off rebuilding another year for a chance at a one and done play off series.
Dave…. I just thought after watching baseball for 40 some years that the starter is the main guy, and gets the benefit of working out of slumps (Kelly did get a little under 3 mil to play this year)…not being replaced a few weeks into the season for a guy that doesn’t hit for any power…with a team lacking in power. If Kelly wasn’t a starter like all the rest then I will understand that, and if the Braves don’t need power…I will understand it even more….. I mean…you yourself quoted Bobby when he said all Schafer needed to do was catch the ball…he doesn’t even have to hit. So what gives??? LOL….Kelly doesn’t even get an AB in the game last night….a blowout!!! I’m sensing some kind of double standard here for one of the players and I just wanted your insight into it.
DOB, the problem is with Kelly, though, is he shouldn’t be hitting in the leadoff spot. The numbers back that up, but apparently Bobby can’t read those numbers. Kelly is much effective lower in the order, which was proven the last two times he’s played, he’s hit 6th and gotten two hits. They are wasting Kelly’s talents by having him sit on the bench. So if they’re not going to play him on an everday basis, then they trade him and see what they can get for him. But there is no reason to sit him, regardless of how hot Infante is. If Bobby has a man crush on Infante, then let him play CF for a couple of days and give Schafer some time off.
Anders-Should we perhaps get into an analysis of Pelfrey, Maine and Livan over the past little while? Are you sure you really want to?
In his past 18 starts dating back to last June, Maine has pitched 96.2 innings and given up 55 ER-a greater than 5 ERA.
In 17 starts since late last July, Pelfrey has pitched 106 innings and given up 53 Earned runs for around a 4.5 ERA.
Livan has posted ERA’s of 4.93 in 07, 6.05 in 08 and 5.53 so far this season.
Living up to potential? Where? How? I sure don’t see it. You talk about us having fifth spot problems (our number 5 starter has pitched all of 3 games so far).. How about your number 2, 3, 4 and 5 starters? Tim Redding? We recoil in fear.
All this flap about Kelly Johnson again…BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. He is neither as bad or as good as everyone is discussing and more to the point Kelly Johnson does not make or break the Braves fortunes. He is good enough to hit first and bad enough to be benched…what does that tell us??? Anyway, who cares?
I am of opinion that I see both sides the KJ argument. I see Infante playing because he is hot. With KJ in the lead off I see why he is not playing. However, If KJ was plugged in the 6 hole, I can see where KJ will take off as he did late last summer. Somtimes KJ takes to many pitches leading off. He will let a pitch he can drive go for the sake of working the pitcher for Yunie and Chipper. I also think he tends to take that stuff to the field, therefore affecting his defense to a degree.
Whats your take on all the errors? Am I overreacting by saying I haven’t seen the Braves defense this bad in awhile? Has any of the players or managers said anything about it, other than we need to cut down on them, or overcome them (though I guess that’s about all they could say)? Where do we rank in the majors with our defensive efficiency?
It’s all about Rain-X…You’re right…DOB drop a suggestion since you have the access dude, the stuff is like it came directly from a wizard. No fogging up at all, I used to use it when I played paintball in all types of weather.
Thanks for the reality check on KJ, DOB. Maybe people will open their eyes after you said it. A lot of people on here act like KJ is their son or something, I don’t get it.
Kelly has been pushed aside temporarily by a hotter hitter and a guy who’s been doing quite well in the leadoff spot. Is that wrong?
No its not wrong, its what most managers would do. If Bobby didn’t do it people would be on here bashing Bobby. Bobby has the teams best interest in mind first and then individual players. We don’t have anyone else on the team who has been better in the leadoff spot up until this point. Put your career stats away and just watch the damn games and you’ll see that. If the manager doesn’t use the best available players on any given day out of the 25 he has to work with then he is doing the team and the fans a disservice. Francona is using Nick Green over Lugo at SS most days for cripes sake! Hmmm is it because Greenie has better career numbers than Lugo? I’m not gonna bother to look but let me run out on this limb here and say probably not! He’s using him because he’s the hot hand right now. Logic is a beautiful thing.
Lew- Pelfrey is 4-0. How many other teams have one of those? Maine tried to pitch through an injury late last year and you know it. Livan is well, Livan.
Listen, I have never claimed that the Mets had a top notch staff. I’ve said all along that they have enough to win the division. They have basically the same staff that came within a game of the Phils last year. they clearly fixed the bullpen (remember the days when all you did was rub my face in the Mets bullpen? Hmm.. wonder where that strategy went?). If 2 through 5 pitch effectively I believe that will be enough.
Your Braves on the other hand need an ealry ’70’s Baltimore Orioles type rotation to make up for ther anemic offense and lachluster middle relief.
As for a 5th starter in sight I meant in the short run. I doubt very much the Braves will push Hanson much this year. You have heard of Schafer -right?
Braves have realistic options at #5 in Glavine, Hanson, Medlen and Morton. Whether they want to “rush along” Hanson and Medlen is to be seen. I believe Glavine will be back within the next month or so. Also we have Tim Hudson waiting to come back and make about 10 starts. There is atleast ALOT of things developing for us back there. The Mets have ZERO developing anywhere after Santana, maybe Pelfrey?
Yep DOB, based on career numbers, we have certainly got to go get Barry Bonds for left field. He’ll help tremendously out their.
And Anders, just to be honest, I understand the optimism you have with your Mets, but based on past performances i’m taking a kind of i’ll believe it when I see it approach with the Mets. It’s easy to win in May and they’ve done it before. It’s like me believing that Jojo Reyes was going to shutdown the Phillies last night and ignoring his history.
Unfortunately, the MLB season, is not a short run. Also games in September count massively (See 07-08 New York Metropolitans), when we should have Glavine or Hudson in the bullpen as a luxury down the stretch. And the Braves middle-relief WAS lackluckster, the stats have filp-flopped drastically there and will improve even greater when Campillo comes back healthy…
Campillo, forgot about him. I could see him coming back to man the 5 spot. What to do with JoJo? I would put him the BP rather than send him down. I think O’Flaherty should go down. Give Reyes a little bit of confidence. I understan the rave on Hanson. It seems like every team in baseball has a power arm in the rotation except ATL.
g Nick Green over Lugo at SS most days for cripes sake! Hmmm is it because Greenie has better career numbers than Lugo? I’m not gonna bother to look but let me run out on this limb here and say probably not! He’s using him because he’s the hot hand right now. Logic is a beautiful thing.
Lugo has played after coming off the DL, and once Lowrie comes back, Lugo will be benched as well. Try again
Chuck- The Mets have their guys in the MLB already. Plus Niese, who pitched last night. Keep in mind that Parnell who they’ve been using as a 7th inning guy is actually a starter. Last resort is they can take a contract off someone’s hands before the deadline. that’s why Minaya sat tight at the end of this off season – it’s going to be a buyers market this July.
Anders-Pelfrey may be 4-0, but with a 5.46 ERA. How long do you seriously see him with that kind of record giving up that many runs?
Livan has a winning record but has an ERA of 5.53. The same concerns attach.
Maine has a 5.20 ERA and has pitched through the injury already. How long is that excuse good for?
Ollie Perez, though they finally took him out of the rotation, has an ERA of 9.97. Dude!!!!! Almost ten freaking runs per game and he was your BIG FA signing for the rotation. And you’re spouting of about JoJO with his 5 something and Kawakami’s (experiencing adjustment problems) 6 something ERA? Need you refer to scriptural comments concerning motes and visual organs?
Your suggestion for Reyes for BP. Do you mean have him throw Batting Practice like he has been the past year or bullpen to solidify they have given up on him as a starter?
Chuck you are funny. No, I actually see the talent there. I also seen him pitch to good games this yaer. H e could have had 2 wins if not for the defense, and ineffecient hitting. Sorry, but everyone can’t be coming out of the minors throwing no- hitters.
Sure thing Anders, Because as we all know the most important thing on a Braves blog is the Mets. Only the biggest bed wetting loser in the world would spend most of his time on another teams blog. Me thiks he isnt welcome on his own teams blog so he comes here instead.
I have heard alot of people say that one inning kills JoJo. Except for last night. who can look up how much run support reyes has gorren this year. Not runs per game, but how runs were scored while he was in the game. I cede to you last year he sucked. He was a rookie and overmatched. This year he has pitched good. How many runs were scored for so far? Look at the awful defense. Some plays that cost runs are not always called errors. Reyes is a decent pitcher witha good arm. He’s is still young and has alot of room to grow.
Anders…keep telling yourself you have enough pitching. Good luck with that. You and I both know that Maine, Perez, and Livan are not very good. I think Pelfrey has good stuff, but he needs to learn to get his pitch count down. I’m not sold on the Braves, but they clearly have better pitching than the Mets and Phils. That pitching will keep them in the mix all summer long.
I said earlier JoJo tries to be to fine with his pitches. Trying to be perfect. It’s not ATL offense is going to score more than 2 runs. What happens when you try to hard is your Breaking ball flattens and your fast ball tails over the heart of the plate and not on the corneres or below the knees.
jason, I saw Chuck at the Home Depot with Joe “Homer” Simpson a week ago. I think he’s a fork lift operator and works 2nd shift.
Anders, beat it! The Mutts won’t win jack sh!! with those arrogant attitudes. You left for now, but when you get back, be sure to answer this question for me… Don’t you think the Mets lose, collapse because the arrogance they get over the season when they go on little winning streaks? I think it catches up with them and they hang their heads when things don’t go perfectly their way. They’ll never win anything major with that bunch they have there.
Yeah, Chuck James is in the hospital, suffering from the same neck condition as Clooney & Caruso, except that Chuck’s was caused by tilting it sideways to watch all those homers
I must ask…what is the true purpose of going on another teams blog to talk? I have never done it nor do I see any reason to, except maybe to get directions to any fine establishments while in town…
Yet day after day after day we continue to be subjected to Phillies, Mets, Cubs, and so on’s fans…
I’m just waiting for the Nats to get good so their 18 fans can come on here and talk about their Mayor smoking crack in D.C.
Let it go people, and go back to your own board, if you even have one!
Anders-
I’ll make an exception for you simply because you’ve been around here long enough that I don’t see you as a simple passer-by. Good luck to your Mets…I don’t think I would raise my hopes too far just yet though.
The only thing anyone can put on Glenn Hubbard is base running. Cause isn’t your 1st base coach in charge on base running skills. Like stealing, and leads, getting a good jump. BUT ultimately if Bobby doesn’t give the fast guys a green light they probably don’t want to steal. Because if they get caught it’s something they decided to do on their own and not the teams choice.
I agree that I think after a little winning streak, the Mets think their all that AND a bag of chips…..then they lose 3, 4, or so and they whine…and come back down to earth.
Kinda like the Celtics after winning the NBA championship LAST season. As much as I liked watching them win it all last season, it seems to me that they think their all that now after winning 1 champtionship in the last 100 years (not literally 100 years since their last championship….just figuretively speaking). I’ll be glad to see the Magic takem them out of the playoffs.
Considering that ATLs offense has no OOMPH, couldn’t they just the fences in at Turner Field so some of those warning track shots could become doubles? Just a thought. LOL!!!
Campillo, forgot about him. I could see him coming back to man the 5 spot. What to do with JoJo? I would put him the BP rather than send him down. I think O’Flaherty should go down. Give Reyes a little bit of confidence. I understan the rave on Hanson. It seems like every team in baseball has a power arm in the rotation except ATL.
I figured Zinkhan had offed himself somewhere, especially since his passport was found. UGA people, what was the story on that? Was the wife having an affair with that guy or ???
bravefaninok, must have been thinking about Bennent, oh, never mind Bennent is a righty.
Tn Brian, could a Falcon tryout be in the future for James? LOL!!!
My only problem was that his chief goal was to teach Kelly how to be a good defensive 2b…and he failed miserably there…
Other than that, I have no real problem w/ him there other than your 1b coach is usually a guy who is your baserunning coach and a guy that stole some bases in the majors…
Hubbard stole 35 bases in 12 years while being caught 35 times…that doesn’t exactly exude an ability to read pitchers.
In all reality though, the problems w/ the “other” coaches lie in Cadahia who does a terrible job in positioning the defense and brings little to the table, other than his gut and an extra lunch; Terry Pendleton, who as far as I can tell collects his paycheck and has done far less than Larry Jones Sr., Howie McCann, and Rudy Jaramillo, as far as helping out this team in that dept., and Brian Snitker, who is a nice guy, but is even a worse 3b coach than Bobby Dews, which is hard to accomplish in not knowing angles, situations, and who is running v who is throwing the ball, and who is coming up next.
Thanks! I was beginning to worry I had the crappiest luck ever becasue there was a link to every game but the Braves game on the other link you sent me
We need a heavy dose of The Mac Attack today! I think the nerd…I mean, four eyes…no, the bearded icon Jr. will hit a hr today and scoot that butt to third for a stand up triple on a nice 4-5 day.
Kelly is leading off and Frenchy is hitting 7th…but it’s the same all around…I think he hit 7th last night. Honestly I think he and Schafer should be spilt up but that’s just me.
We need a heavy dose of The Mac Attack today! I think the nerd…I mean, four eyes…no, the bearded icon Jr. will hit a hr today and scoot that butt to third for a stand up triple on a nice 4-5 day.
I actually thought I had posted that lineup two hours ago before heading to clubhouse. But when I just got back upstairs, I realized that I wasn’t logged into our WordPress system and it was just sitting there, unposted. Sorry about that, folks.
Oh, and Braves have no plans to give up on Reyes or drop him from rotation, Bobby Cox said again this morning. He said liked the way he threw for the most part last night, how he “dominated” some guys like Utley for most of the night. Which is why it so frustrates him that Jo-Jo still makes some bad pitches or can’t limit the damage after an error sometimes, how he’ll walk the next guy, etc.
But they still like his stuff and believe he can be a good major league pitcher. So for now, at least, expect him to stay in rotation.
The next 2 games in Philly should allow both KJ and Omar to be in the lineup. The park is small, CF is not vast, and Schafer needs a breather. Play Omar in CF and KJ at 2B the next two days and worry about who should start when we get to Citi Field.
Cox on Jo-Jo: “He looks so much better than he used to. He’s so close to being good. You certainly don’t want to give up on him. We’re going to stick with him and see if he can get through this.”
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Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:05 am
Dogs-You and Gil say hello to each other for me. I’ll be there in spirit-just don’t really want to physically be back in the town of my birth. Had enough of that.
SoWeGa Fanatic
May 9th, 2009
11:07 am
I believe Glavine lost like 17 games in 1987, and he turned out pretty fair. After sleeping on it, I think I would give JoJo another shot, but on a very, very short leash. Come to think of it, I would have my long guy on the edge of his seat with his jacket off and glove on from inning one.
bravefaninok
May 9th, 2009
11:07 am
Anders
May 9th, 2009
10:05 am
For what it’s worth I vote that Bobby gives Reyes at LEAST one more start. he-he.
Anders does at least have a sense of humor………….lmfao
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
11:08 am
It is nothing short of INSANE that Jo Jo Reyes is getting starts!! The man has lost 9 straight games and has not won a start in his last 17 starts now?!?! What freakin more do you need to know?? Until washed up stiff Glavine can maybe come back, just end this little stupid game you’re playing holding back Hanson. He is guaranteed to take his lumps but he will be far more productive then Reyes will ever dream to be. This is senial to continue to guarantee your team a loss before the game starts. Yeh, Jo Jo Reyes = Bum. Why don’t the Braves see that? I could see if Tommy Hanson was non-existent….However he is very alive!
Doc Holiday
May 9th, 2009
11:08 am
What I dont get is how can it be possible for this team to have zero power if cox loves to wait for the 3 run HR……..he like pitching defense and HR……….and we ha no defense and 0 power…… kind of strange.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
11:08 am
Frankie Knuckles: The people who make the decisions certainly aren’t selling Medlen short. I don’t know who you’re referring to, but nobody around the team or covering the team sells him short, pardon the pun (he’s actually quite short, about 5-7 or 5-8, but doesn’t matter — dude can flat-out pitch).
J.L
May 9th, 2009
11:09 am
Braves73, I too, do not understand why someone from Gwinnett is not promoted, either Medlin, Hanson, Redmon not to mention Morton.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:09 am
Anders-Don’t kid yourself. The Braves will go nowhere if they don’t kick it up a couple notches, but the Mets’ pitching is bad after Santana. Very bad. Pelfrey and Maine are, at best, inconsistent. After that you have nothing-and don’t try to tell us you have minor league options. Your only hope is that the Phillies pitching (after Hamels if he’s really back to normal) is just as bad if not worse. Mets don’t have the Phillies’ offense, though, so it’ll be harder for you to compensate.
Anders
May 9th, 2009
11:09 am
Flange1- If Frenchy is having trouble covering that postage stamp in Philly, wait until he see’s what’s waiting for him in Flushing. lot’s and lot’s of green.
Schafer will be worth all the strikeouts when you see the ground he has to cover. The outfield is enormous.
jason
May 9th, 2009
11:11 am
It seems to go back to the same logic all these great pitchers with losing records when they started out all played on bad teams. Once Braves mgt wakes up and understands this, ATL will be able to go foward. not just pitching, but the entire team. Simply put. the Braves need to rebuild now. Not tomorrow, but now.
TBraveFan
May 9th, 2009
11:12 am
P-Town Brave:
“The Braves can not truly go into a rebuild mode until we completely scrap the coaching staff as well.”
You’re kidding right? What fault can you possibly find with Glenn Hubbard or Eddie Perez – even Brian Snitker? Most importantly Glenn Hubbard….
JerseyGil
May 9th, 2009
11:15 am
Flange1-…Agree that the Braves has to stop those miscute error…But that ball that Coste hit to yunel was a soft line witha lot spins in, he hit that ball at the end of the bat, as soon that ball hit the ground has another spin & eat up yunel…
Rock On....(the denizen formerly known as Dadgum)
May 9th, 2009
11:15 am
Jason….well I don’t agree with the Houston philosophy and I will tell you why. A starting pitcher must be conditioned to going 9 innings. That has to be the mentality. Certainly that isn’t going to happen on any regular basis with all the specialty pitchers and especially in the NL. The bullpen, while very important as we saw last year, is more for shorter pitch count guys and the mental approach is different.
A real good future starter like a Hanson needs to be out there ramping up from the get go to throw well over 100 pitches on each and every start. Maybe that will get you 9 innings or 6-7 who knows. Constantly throwing a couple of innings out of the pen is not the way to develop a great starter. Not saying that Houston didn’t get that from some pitchers though.
Braves73
May 9th, 2009
11:16 am
Jason – Agreed. I realize that they should work him into the rotation slowly and put him in the best position to have success. I certainly think that Jo – Jo “has the stuff” to be a successful major league pitcher…they just need to rethink their plan for him.
vabravesfan – Medlin is definitely a quality pitcher but unlike Hanson, he doesn’t have dominating stuff. He may very well turn out to be the more reliable prospect, but until the Braves fall completely out of the race (which could be sooner rather than later) he will not be in the starting rotation.
From what I have seen of this team so far, I believe that they are headed for a fourth place finish. They don’t do the little things well that winning ball clubs do (play great defense, run the base paths well, clutch late inning hits, nor comeback victories). There is just SOMETHING missing from this group of players that is hard to explain…hope I’m wrong.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:17 am
P-Town-Just got a call from my Retinal surgeon. No laser this time, but another intravitriol injection. yet another needle in the eye. Number ten on that procedure. Life is so much fun.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 9th, 2009
11:17 am
Jo-Jo Reyes is keeping the fifth slot warm until Glavine is ready to go.
The Braves don’t want to start the clock on Hanson or any of their other young pitchers for that matter. All in all, Frank Wren is hedging his bets and I don’t blame him one bit.
Anders
May 9th, 2009
11:18 am
Lew- You and others are the same one’s that told me the Braves had a lock down starting rotation. So what makes you think you’re qualified to assess the Mets ST? Vasquez is what I said he was. a .500 innings eater. Big deal. Kawakami was a shot in the dark that looks like a huge mistake. They have no 5th starter in sight. This was supposed to be the strength of the Braves. What happened there?
Maine has won 15 games, Perez has won 15 games. Pelfrey is coming into his own and Livan has been what was expected. If 3 of the 4 collapse then the Mets are sunk. If 3 of the 4 pitch to their potential the Mets have more than enough offense and certainly the bullpen to win.
BTW- Niese looked very solid last night. He had a lot of Glavine mannerisms in how he carried himself on the mound. Not comparing him as a pitcher, just in body langauge for what it’s worth – which isn’t much.
vabravesfan
May 9th, 2009
11:19 am
morton had 105 pitches last night. Hanson has been 90+ pitches in all of his starts. Pretty much the same it would be when they get to the majors
Doc Holiday
May 9th, 2009
11:21 am
Lew,
Your points on phillies and mets are 100% truth.
ChipChopper
May 9th, 2009
11:23 am
DOB, has anyone told Brian McCann to try Rain-X on the inside of his Oakley’s to stop the freakin’ fogging? I’ve used it on motorcycle helmets for years of winter riding–the stuff is like magic.
vabravesfan
May 9th, 2009
11:24 am
o and don’t know if anybody mentioned it but matt harrison pitched a shutout 4 hitter last night.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:25 am
Actually Anders-The Braves’ failures to this point are NOT as a result of poor pitching-especially the starters. They are performing better than the Mets’ or Phillies’ staffs to this point of the season-by a quite wide margin. As for the pen-their first 29 innings pitched resulted in 28 earned runs-an almost 9.00 ERA. In the intervening games (18) they have pitched just shy of 52 innings and given up 12 earned runs-a 2.00 ERA.
Our losses have resulted from some of the poorest defense I’ve seen in years and a total lack of timely hitting-much less a lack of power. Pitching has kept us in games, hitting has failed us.
JerseyGil
May 9th, 2009
11:25 am
Doc Holiday ..dido with lew Assessment, Wait until Met/Phillis gone to The West Coast(La/SanF)
i thinl this Race on the East going to be Close to the end..
Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:26 am
Anders-No fifth starter in sight? Dude, they have at least three-Morton, Medlen and Hanson. You have heard of Hanson, haven’t you? He’s the number four prosect in all of the Majors and is worlds ahead of anyone the Mets have to run in there.
JerseyGil
May 9th, 2009
11:27 am
See ya Guys at the Ball Game…It Hot today…Almost 80’s right now…and muggy,First time wear short this season..GO BRAVOS
David O'Brie
May 9th, 2009
11:28 am
If Kelly is “struggling” (Hes hit .398 in May) What do you call what Anderson has been doing David? — Sarge
What do I call what Anderson’s been doing? Uh, mostly I call it sitting on the bench while on the DL. He’s played FOUR GAMES since returning from a 15-day DL stint, Sarge. Four games.
You’re missing the point entirely, too — it’s not as if Cox has benched KJ just to bench him. He’s benched him because he had a hotter hitter (Infante) in the leadoff spot, a guy who also has played solid enough defense at 2B.
Do you propose that the Braves bench G. Anderson after finally getting him off the DL? After we’ve heard Cox go on and on about how much he’s going to mean to the lineup, etc? Are you dealing with the reality of the situation, or just what you wish it was, Sarge? Who you putting in LF, by the way?
Anderson should be benched based on the four games he’s played since returning from the DL, including a three-RBI game in Florida and a hard-hit double last night? Hey, I’m not impressed with what he’s done so far, either, but let’s be realistic. You make decisions based on the personnel you have, not just decisions made in a vacuum. They signed Anderson to a free-agent deal, a veteran who was not going to have to win a job or prove he belonged in the lineup. Again, reality. So once he got healthy, he was going to play.
And unless and until he stinks it up for a lot longer than four days, he’s going to play. Especially when the LF options are, what, Diaz and B. Jones?
Again, getting back to the point: Kelly has been pushed aside temporarily by a hotter hitter and a guy who’s been doing quite well in the leadoff spot. Is that wrong?
Kelly is 5-for-13 with a double, no RBI and two walks in May. Is that a huge turnaround or something? Infante is 9-for-28 (.321) with a homer and five RBI in May. So what? Is May 1 significant or something, a date from which things must be evaluated?
Kelly is 9-for-52 (.173) with one extra-base hit and two RBI since April 16. Do you and OldBravesBag really thinking he’s being treated unfairly? And if Cox was playing him every day, there’d be five times as many (at least) here saying Cox was screwing up by not playing Infante, or Prado.
In the leadoff spot, Infante has hit .383 (18-for-47) with three doubles, a homer, seven RBI and a .434 OBP and .835 OPS.
KJ in the leadoff spot: 14-for-68 (.206) with two doubles, one triple, three homers, nine RBI and a .289 OBP and .686 OPS.
So KJ being 5-for-13 with a double and no RBI in May is supposed to be the main reason you’d move him back to the lineup and Infante back to the bench?
Rock On....(the denizen formerly known as Dadgum)
May 9th, 2009
11:29 am
Jason…..just saw another one of your posts and agree. You can’t keep holding back starters pitch counts. Assuming they have the spring training to ramp up they have to be unbridled. Many pitchers now can’t get past a certain point without folding.
I have to say that throwing a 100 pitches is nothing and so many think that is some great benchmark. I mean the dude throws once every 5 days. You are being paid millions to throw 100 pitches plus and work 1-2 days a week.
I don’t mean to downplay it or simplify the position but really is it too much to ask the starter to give us over 100 pitches consistently. I don’t think so. Sabathia went 9 innings last night.
RHR
May 9th, 2009
11:32 am
Thanks DOB @ 7:21 – that ish is dumb and not funny.
jason
May 9th, 2009
11:34 am
vabraves fan, not arguing, but how many innings did they throw? Rock on, the BP thing to me is more confidence builder than Pitch counts. Putting hin the right situation to succeed. Go from BP to the 5 slot. Once there he can work on increased pitch counts and eat innings. Also working in the 5 slot he will be afforded extra days rest if need be.
Serge
May 9th, 2009
11:36 am
So KJ being 5-for-13 with a double and no RBI in May is supposed to be the main reason you’d move him back to the lineup and Infante back to the bench?
No but its justification to play the “hot hand”.
The reason you move him back to the lineup is because he is the better hitter. Career numbers ..271 .354 .438 .791 vs Omars .263 .307 .392 .699
Playing the inferior player never works. But its something Bobby loves to do. I still remember how he would play Keith Lockhart over Marcus Giles.
and regarding Anderson. Hes terrible. Has been terrible since Spring training.
Anderson this season .175 .233 .275 .508 he makes the “Strugling” Kelly look like an MVP. Theres no reason why you cant move Omar to LF, Kelly to 2B and Anderson to the bench. Anderson is our worst player by a large margin. Any “Benefits” you get by benching Kelly you loose by starting anderson
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
11:37 am
ChipChopper: There’s also Cat Crap, a spectacularly named and quite-effective product used on bike goggles and ski goggles. I forwarded the link someone sent me this morning to a motorcycle mag story on Cat Crap.
Braves73
May 9th, 2009
11:37 am
Now that we all have seen a full months worth of this years version of our beloved Braves, where do you guys realistically see this team finishing (as currently constituted)?
Frank
May 9th, 2009
11:39 am
Anyone who thinks Infante, a career .260’s hitter and a low career OBP guy is suddenly a legit .333 hitter or a .400 OBP guy is living in the land of Oz.
Rock On....(the denizen formerly known as Dadgum)
May 9th, 2009
11:39 am
Coach….don’t blame Wren one bit? Assuming the idea is to win ball games the day they are played, I blame him.
So you are going to pay the stiff Glavine another million to trot out there in place of Jo Jo just because you don’t want to start the clock on Hanson? OK, so why not bring up Medlin, Morton, et al instead of Glavine. Save a million and get a better pitcher to boot in the 5th slot and get him some experience.
I have said for about 6 months I respect what Glavine has done in his HOF career but Wren should tell him it is over and time to move on to Cooperstown.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
11:40 am
The reason you move him back to the lineup is because he is the better hitter. Career numbers ..271 .354 .438 .791 vs Omars .263 .307 .392 .699 — Serge
Oh, OK. So you apply that reasoning to 2B, but not to Garrett Anderson, right?
I think I’ve got it now, Serge.
RHR
May 9th, 2009
11:41 am
DOB about the team hotels…I have a media guide from 2 years ago and so far, all the hotels you’ve told people the team stays in when asked is the same as whats listed in the 07 media guide. Do teams often switch up hotels or do they pretty much stay in the same ones year after year?
What’s your take on players being approached at their hotel? I have always heard that they didn’t like to be approached at the hotels. Not by autograph seekers anyway lol.
Frank
May 9th, 2009
11:41 am
No but its justification to play the “hot hand”.
Unless it is Francoeur, who’ll play everyday regardless.
Frenchy watch: .303 OBP
Ripped again.
May 9th, 2009
11:41 am
Braves are going be lucky to finish in front of the Nats this year !
jason
May 9th, 2009
11:42 am
Rock on, thank you. I think teams are paying to much money for these kids and by far are pampering them to much.Heck make them earn some of their money first. The CG is a lost art. If you could get a CG 50% of the time from your ace, how mush wear and tear could you save on your BP?
Braves73, to answer your question. Barring injury… 3 to 4 place around .500 again. The sad part is they will put off rebuilding another year for a chance at a one and done play off series.
Serge
May 9th, 2009
11:43 am
Oh, OK. So you apply that reasoning to 2B, but not to Garrett Anderson, right?
I think I’ve got it now, Serge.
well
1.Kelly was the better player the past two seasons
2.One player is 27, the other player is 37 and has numerous injuries, issues and arhtritic conditions.
Who do you think will be the better player. Did you think Raul Mondesi would be better than Jeff Franceour in 05 too?
OldBravesBag
May 9th, 2009
11:45 am
Dave…. I just thought after watching baseball for 40 some years that the starter is the main guy, and gets the benefit of working out of slumps (Kelly did get a little under 3 mil to play this year)…not being replaced a few weeks into the season for a guy that doesn’t hit for any power…with a team lacking in power. If Kelly wasn’t a starter like all the rest then I will understand that, and if the Braves don’t need power…I will understand it even more….. I mean…you yourself quoted Bobby when he said all Schafer needed to do was catch the ball…he doesn’t even have to hit. So what gives??? LOL….Kelly doesn’t even get an AB in the game last night….a blowout!!! I’m sensing some kind of double standard here for one of the players and I just wanted your insight into it.
tvsportscaster
May 9th, 2009
11:47 am
DOB, the problem is with Kelly, though, is he shouldn’t be hitting in the leadoff spot. The numbers back that up, but apparently Bobby can’t read those numbers. Kelly is much effective lower in the order, which was proven the last two times he’s played, he’s hit 6th and gotten two hits. They are wasting Kelly’s talents by having him sit on the bench. So if they’re not going to play him on an everday basis, then they trade him and see what they can get for him. But there is no reason to sit him, regardless of how hot Infante is. If Bobby has a man crush on Infante, then let him play CF for a couple of days and give Schafer some time off.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
11:52 am
Anders-Should we perhaps get into an analysis of Pelfrey, Maine and Livan over the past little while? Are you sure you really want to?
In his past 18 starts dating back to last June, Maine has pitched 96.2 innings and given up 55 ER-a greater than 5 ERA.
In 17 starts since late last July, Pelfrey has pitched 106 innings and given up 53 Earned runs for around a 4.5 ERA.
Livan has posted ERA’s of 4.93 in 07, 6.05 in 08 and 5.53 so far this season.
Living up to potential? Where? How? I sure don’t see it. You talk about us having fifth spot problems (our number 5 starter has pitched all of 3 games so far).. How about your number 2, 3, 4 and 5 starters? Tim Redding? We recoil in fear.
Braves73
May 9th, 2009
11:52 am
All this flap about Kelly Johnson again…BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. He is neither as bad or as good as everyone is discussing and more to the point Kelly Johnson does not make or break the Braves fortunes. He is good enough to hit first and bad enough to be benched…what does that tell us??? Anyway, who cares?
jason
May 9th, 2009
11:53 am
I am of opinion that I see both sides the KJ argument. I see Infante playing because he is hot. With KJ in the lead off I see why he is not playing. However, If KJ was plugged in the 6 hole, I can see where KJ will take off as he did late last summer. Somtimes KJ takes to many pitches leading off. He will let a pitch he can drive go for the sake of working the pitcher for Yunie and Chipper. I also think he tends to take that stuff to the field, therefore affecting his defense to a degree.
Mike
May 9th, 2009
11:54 am
DOB….
Whats your take on all the errors? Am I overreacting by saying I haven’t seen the Braves defense this bad in awhile? Has any of the players or managers said anything about it, other than we need to cut down on them, or overcome them (though I guess that’s about all they could say)? Where do we rank in the majors with our defensive efficiency?
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
11:57 am
ChipChopper
It’s all about Rain-X…You’re right…DOB drop a suggestion since you have the access dude, the stuff is like it came directly from a wizard. No fogging up at all, I used to use it when I played paintball in all types of weather.
RHR
May 9th, 2009
11:58 am
Thanks for the reality check on KJ, DOB. Maybe people will open their eyes after you said it. A lot of people on here act like KJ is their son or something, I don’t get it.
Kelly has been pushed aside temporarily by a hotter hitter and a guy who’s been doing quite well in the leadoff spot. Is that wrong?
No its not wrong, its what most managers would do. If Bobby didn’t do it people would be on here bashing Bobby. Bobby has the teams best interest in mind first and then individual players. We don’t have anyone else on the team who has been better in the leadoff spot up until this point. Put your career stats away and just watch the damn games and you’ll see that. If the manager doesn’t use the best available players on any given day out of the 25 he has to work with then he is doing the team and the fans a disservice. Francona is using Nick Green over Lugo at SS most days for cripes sake! Hmmm is it because Greenie has better career numbers than Lugo? I’m not gonna bother to look but let me run out on this limb here and say probably not! He’s using him because he’s the hot hand right now. Logic is a beautiful thing.
Anders
May 9th, 2009
12:03 pm
Lew- Pelfrey is 4-0. How many other teams have one of those? Maine tried to pitch through an injury late last year and you know it. Livan is well, Livan.
Listen, I have never claimed that the Mets had a top notch staff. I’ve said all along that they have enough to win the division. They have basically the same staff that came within a game of the Phils last year. they clearly fixed the bullpen (remember the days when all you did was rub my face in the Mets bullpen? Hmm.. wonder where that strategy went?). If 2 through 5 pitch effectively I believe that will be enough.
Your Braves on the other hand need an ealry ’70’s Baltimore Orioles type rotation to make up for ther anemic offense and lachluster middle relief.
As for a 5th starter in sight I meant in the short run. I doubt very much the Braves will push Hanson much this year. You have heard of Schafer -right?
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
12:06 pm
Anders
Braves have realistic options at #5 in Glavine, Hanson, Medlen and Morton. Whether they want to “rush along” Hanson and Medlen is to be seen. I believe Glavine will be back within the next month or so. Also we have Tim Hudson waiting to come back and make about 10 starts. There is atleast ALOT of things developing for us back there. The Mets have ZERO developing anywhere after Santana, maybe Pelfrey?
Jake W.
May 9th, 2009
12:08 pm
Yep DOB, based on career numbers, we have certainly got to go get Barry Bonds for left field. He’ll help tremendously out their.
And Anders, just to be honest, I understand the optimism you have with your Mets, but based on past performances i’m taking a kind of i’ll believe it when I see it approach with the Mets. It’s easy to win in May and they’ve done it before. It’s like me believing that Jojo Reyes was going to shutdown the Phillies last night and ignoring his history.
OldBravesBag
May 9th, 2009
12:10 pm
Uh…Lugo is just coming off the DL….and has played the last three games……
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
12:10 pm
Anders
Unfortunately, the MLB season, is not a short run. Also games in September count massively (See 07-08 New York Metropolitans), when we should have Glavine or Hudson in the bullpen as a luxury down the stretch. And the Braves middle-relief WAS lackluckster, the stats have filp-flopped drastically there and will improve even greater when Campillo comes back healthy…
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:13 pm
Campillo, forgot about him. I could see him coming back to man the 5 spot. What to do with JoJo? I would put him the BP rather than send him down. I think O’Flaherty should go down. Give Reyes a little bit of confidence. I understan the rave on Hanson. It seems like every team in baseball has a power arm in the rotation except ATL.
Serge
May 9th, 2009
12:15 pm
g Nick Green over Lugo at SS most days for cripes sake! Hmmm is it because Greenie has better career numbers than Lugo? I’m not gonna bother to look but let me run out on this limb here and say probably not! He’s using him because he’s the hot hand right now. Logic is a beautiful thing.
Lugo has played after coming off the DL, and once Lowrie comes back, Lugo will be benched as well. Try again
Hommy Tanson
May 9th, 2009
12:15 pm
Why doesnt Bobby give me some loooooveee??
Anders
May 9th, 2009
12:18 pm
Chuck- The Mets have their guys in the MLB already. Plus Niese, who pitched last night. Keep in mind that Parnell who they’ve been using as a 7th inning guy is actually a starter. Last resort is they can take a contract off someone’s hands before the deadline. that’s why Minaya sat tight at the end of this off season – it’s going to be a buyers market this July.
Lew
May 9th, 2009
12:21 pm
Anders-Pelfrey may be 4-0, but with a 5.46 ERA. How long do you seriously see him with that kind of record giving up that many runs?
Livan has a winning record but has an ERA of 5.53. The same concerns attach.
Maine has a 5.20 ERA and has pitched through the injury already. How long is that excuse good for?
Ollie Perez, though they finally took him out of the rotation, has an ERA of 9.97. Dude!!!!! Almost ten freaking runs per game and he was your BIG FA signing for the rotation. And you’re spouting of about JoJO with his 5 something and Kawakami’s (experiencing adjustment problems) 6 something ERA? Need you refer to scriptural comments concerning motes and visual organs?
Anders
May 9th, 2009
12:22 pm
Well. game starts in a little while. Got some stuff to do. I’ll try and get back on here either later or tomorrow. Beat them Phils for me – will ya?
No Fun for Anyone
May 9th, 2009
12:28 pm
NO MORE SMOKING, ALCOHOL, RED MEAT FOR ANYONE!
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
12:29 pm
jason
Your suggestion for Reyes for BP. Do you mean have him throw Batting Practice like he has been the past year or bullpen to solidify they have given up on him as a starter?
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:31 pm
Chuck you are funny. No, I actually see the talent there. I also seen him pitch to good games this yaer. H e could have had 2 wins if not for the defense, and ineffecient hitting. Sorry, but everyone can’t be coming out of the minors throwing no- hitters.
Shane
May 9th, 2009
12:42 pm
Sure thing Anders, Because as we all know the most important thing on a Braves blog is the Mets. Only the biggest bed wetting loser in the world would spend most of his time on another teams blog. Me thiks he isnt welcome on his own teams blog so he comes here instead.
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:42 pm
I have heard alot of people say that one inning kills JoJo. Except for last night. who can look up how much run support reyes has gorren this year. Not runs per game, but how runs were scored while he was in the game. I cede to you last year he sucked. He was a rookie and overmatched. This year he has pitched good. How many runs were scored for so far? Look at the awful defense. Some plays that cost runs are not always called errors. Reyes is a decent pitcher witha good arm. He’s is still young and has alot of room to grow.
njbraves
May 9th, 2009
12:43 pm
Anders…keep telling yourself you have enough pitching. Good luck with that. You and I both know that Maine, Perez, and Livan are not very good. I think Pelfrey has good stuff, but he needs to learn to get his pitch count down. I’m not sold on the Braves, but they clearly have better pitching than the Mets and Phils. That pitching will keep them in the mix all summer long.
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:46 pm
I said earlier JoJo tries to be to fine with his pitches. Trying to be perfect. It’s not ATL offense is going to score more than 2 runs. What happens when you try to hard is your Breaking ball flattens and your fast ball tails over the heart of the plate and not on the corneres or below the knees.
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:47 pm
Chuck James, where is Chuck James these days, by the way ?
TnBrian
May 9th, 2009
12:59 pm
jason, I saw Chuck at the Home Depot with Joe “Homer” Simpson a week ago. I think he’s a fork lift operator and works 2nd shift.
Anders, beat it! The Mutts won’t win jack sh!! with those arrogant attitudes. You left for now, but when you get back, be sure to answer this question for me… Don’t you think the Mets lose, collapse because the arrogance they get over the season when they go on little winning streaks? I think it catches up with them and they hang their heads when things don’t go perfectly their way. They’ll never win anything major with that bunch they have there.
Mitchie-san
May 9th, 2009
1:07 pm
Chuck James is probably at the hospital.
Braveheart
May 9th, 2009
1:09 pm
Yeah, Chuck James is in the hospital, suffering from the same neck condition as Clooney & Caruso, except that Chuck’s was caused by tilting it sideways to watch all those homers
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
1:11 pm
I must ask…what is the true purpose of going on another teams blog to talk? I have never done it nor do I see any reason to, except maybe to get directions to any fine establishments while in town…
Yet day after day after day we continue to be subjected to Phillies, Mets, Cubs, and so on’s fans…
I’m just waiting for the Nats to get good so their 18 fans can come on here and talk about their Mayor smoking crack in D.C.
Let it go people, and go back to your own board, if you even have one!
Anders-
I’ll make an exception for you simply because you’ve been around here long enough that I don’t see you as a simple passer-by. Good luck to your Mets…I don’t think I would raise my hopes too far just yet though.
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
1:13 pm
The only thing anyone can put on Glenn Hubbard is base running. Cause isn’t your 1st base coach in charge on base running skills. Like stealing, and leads, getting a good jump. BUT ultimately if Bobby doesn’t give the fast guys a green light they probably don’t want to steal. Because if they get caught it’s something they decided to do on their own and not the teams choice.
Frank from KS
May 9th, 2009
1:16 pm
TnBrian
Good post at 12:59 p.m.
I agree that I think after a little winning streak, the Mets think their all that AND a bag of chips…..then they lose 3, 4, or so and they whine…and come back down to earth.
Kinda like the Celtics after winning the NBA championship LAST season. As much as I liked watching them win it all last season, it seems to me that they think their all that now after winning 1 champtionship in the last 100 years (not literally 100 years since their last championship….just figuretively speaking). I’ll be glad to see the Magic takem them out of the playoffs.
jason
May 9th, 2009
1:17 pm
Considering that ATLs offense has no OOMPH, couldn’t they just the fences in at Turner Field so some of those warning track shots could become doubles? Just a thought. LOL!!!
Braveheart
May 9th, 2009
1:19 pm
Third base coach gives the baserunning signals
richbrave
May 9th, 2009
1:19 pm
Hey ANDERS, go p*** up a rope. 15 winhs, we’re talking this year not history.
bravefaninok
May 9th, 2009
1:25 pm
jason
May 9th, 2009
12:13 pm
Campillo, forgot about him. I could see him coming back to man the 5 spot. What to do with JoJo? I would put him the BP rather than send him down. I think O’Flaherty should go down. Give Reyes a little bit of confidence. I understan the rave on Hanson. It seems like every team in baseball has a power arm in the rotation except ATL.
Send EOF Down….what is wrong with you?…
0 0 2.45 13 0 0 0 0 1 11.0 8 3 3 0 2 1 5 .211 0.82 1.36
EOF has been lights out.
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
1:25 pm
Braveheart
Giving the signals has nothing to do with teaching them how to get their leads and take off and how to read a pitcher.
bravefaninok
May 9th, 2009
1:26 pm
W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HB BB SO AVG WHIP GO/AO sequence ▲
SEASON 0 0 2.45 13 0 0 0 0 1 11.0 8 3 3 0 2 1 5 .211 0.82 1.36
RHR
May 9th, 2009
1:31 pm
I figured Zinkhan had offed himself somewhere, especially since his passport was found. UGA people, what was the story on that? Was the wife having an affair with that guy or ???
MFin04 (The Hopeless Romantic)
May 9th, 2009
1:33 pm
Any word of the lineup?
jason
May 9th, 2009
1:33 pm
bravefaninok, must have been thinking about Bennent, oh, never mind Bennent is a righty.
Tn Brian, could a Falcon tryout be in the future for James? LOL!!!
TBraveFan
May 9th, 2009
1:37 pm
I take exception to anyone who thinks Glenn Hubbard isn’t one of the best coaches/instructors the Braves have ever had….period
Chop Chop
May 9th, 2009
1:42 pm
I like when Lew and Anders argue. Both of our teams aren’t very good, so it’s kind of like two one-legged men squaring off in an ***-kicking contest.
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
1:43 pm
Tom O’Hawke, CA-
I sent you both an email about the game feed for today.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 9th, 2009
1:44 pm
Chuck James was solid until the 6th!!! That’s all I know about Chuck James.
No Fun for Anyone
May 9th, 2009
1:48 pm
I’d take Chuck James WAY before Jo-Jo Reyes.
P-Town Brave
May 9th, 2009
1:49 pm
TBraveFan-
My only problem was that his chief goal was to teach Kelly how to be a good defensive 2b…and he failed miserably there…
Other than that, I have no real problem w/ him there other than your 1b coach is usually a guy who is your baserunning coach and a guy that stole some bases in the majors…
Hubbard stole 35 bases in 12 years while being caught 35 times…that doesn’t exactly exude an ability to read pitchers.
In all reality though, the problems w/ the “other” coaches lie in Cadahia who does a terrible job in positioning the defense and brings little to the table, other than his gut and an extra lunch; Terry Pendleton, who as far as I can tell collects his paycheck and has done far less than Larry Jones Sr., Howie McCann, and Rudy Jaramillo, as far as helping out this team in that dept., and Brian Snitker, who is a nice guy, but is even a worse 3b coach than Bobby Dews, which is hard to accomplish in not knowing angles, situations, and who is running v who is throwing the ball, and who is coming up next.
cabravesfan
May 9th, 2009
1:51 pm
P-Town
Thanks! I was beginning to worry I had the crappiest luck ever becasue there was a link to every game but the Braves game on the other link you sent me
TnBrian
May 9th, 2009
1:52 pm
We need a heavy dose of The Mac Attack today! I think the nerd…I mean, four eyes…no, the bearded icon Jr. will hit a hr today and scoot that butt to third for a stand up triple on a nice 4-5 day.
jason
May 9th, 2009
1:54 pm
P-Town Brave, The only thing I can say on Hubbard is well the obiviously KJ is not a 2B. Now, i have done started the KJ arguement again.
vabravesfan
May 9th, 2009
1:57 pm
kotchman and anderson both hitting over .300 vs Blanton just an fyi
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:05 pm
KJ’s leading off today.
1. KJ
2. Escobar
3. Chipper
4. Anderson
5. McCann
6. Kotchman
7. Francoeur
8. Schafer
9. Vazquez
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
2:08 pm
Kelly is leading off and Frenchy is hitting 7th…but it’s the same all around…I think he hit 7th last night. Honestly I think he and Schafer should be spilt up but that’s just me.
bravefaninok
May 9th, 2009
2:09 pm
TnBrian
May 9th, 2009
1:52 pm
We need a heavy dose of The Mac Attack today! I think the nerd…I mean, four eyes…no, the bearded icon Jr. will hit a hr today and scoot that butt to third for a stand up triple on a nice 4-5 day.
Lol..i like the bearded icon jr……..GO BRAVOS
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
2:09 pm
SIX LEFTIES well really 5 and 1 SH?
AND Like how many hit Righties well?
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:10 pm
I actually thought I had posted that lineup two hours ago before heading to clubhouse. But when I just got back upstairs, I realized that I wasn’t logged into our WordPress system and it was just sitting there, unposted. Sorry about that, folks.
Oh, and Braves have no plans to give up on Reyes or drop him from rotation, Bobby Cox said again this morning. He said liked the way he threw for the most part last night, how he “dominated” some guys like Utley for most of the night. Which is why it so frustrates him that Jo-Jo still makes some bad pitches or can’t limit the damage after an error sometimes, how he’ll walk the next guy, etc.
But they still like his stuff and believe he can be a good major league pitcher. So for now, at least, expect him to stay in rotation.
Jim
May 9th, 2009
2:11 pm
The next 2 games in Philly should allow both KJ and Omar to be in the lineup. The park is small, CF is not vast, and Schafer needs a breather. Play Omar in CF and KJ at 2B the next two days and worry about who should start when we get to Citi Field.
David O'Brien
May 9th, 2009
2:12 pm
Cox on Jo-Jo: “He looks so much better than he used to. He’s so close to being good. You certainly don’t want to give up on him. We’re going to stick with him and see if he can get through this.”
bravos2249
May 9th, 2009
2:12 pm
Almost everyone’s homers are off Left handers but they hit righties better…man they are some mesed up hitters…lol