3:00 pm May 8, 2009, by David O'Brien
May 9th, 200912:02 am
I’m sure this has been posted on here, but Matt Harrison threw a complete game shutout for the Rangers tonight.
yeah, realistically, though, we could have a pretty decent winning record if the offense had been there.
I’m pretty sure a lot of these unforgettable pitching contests could have been turned into wins if, once again, the offense would have been there.
May 9th, 200912:04 am
Jo Jo and Kawakami are a combined 1-13 in their last 14 starts. What is going on with Bobby and Wren? The last game I watch Kawakami pitch against the Mets the announcers were stunned at how slow KKs curve was. He will never get anyone out at this level with a mediocre fastball and that Eddie Harris Vaseline curve ball he has. $8 million a year and we got this guy for another 95 plus starts. I want to throw up all over Frank Wrens pocket so every time he has to reach in to get money out he will feel the pain and disgust Liberty Media Group feels when they Pay this guy $308,000 every 1st and 15th of the month. Frank Wren and Isaiah Thomas are from the same school of GMs. It took a sexual harassment case to get Isaiah out of town. I hope we won’t need that much to get birdman to hit the road and go back to Birdland, Maryland.
May 9th, 200912:06 am
Hmmm…I thought this blog was color blind.
May 9th, 200912:07 am
Maybe the KK situation would not be so bad if this team would have hit a little more and our record was something like 16-11. That would help. And he would have not lost so many games.
Imposter’s IP addresses will be seeked out and blocked.
May 9th, 200912:08 am
It’s really sad that not even drinking can make CSI:Miami watchable…
May 9th, 200912:11 am
I always liked CSI Miami because of Emily Proctor!
Where is the OLD Braveheart…I used to love reading HIS posts.
Did anyone Really believe we were going to win tonight with Jo Jo on the mound? I know that I knew we weren’t. Thats why I didn’t watch. Keeps the blood pressure down when I knew it was a gimme game to the philthies. Tomorrow should be much better.
uga-brave-I know right where Banner Elk is. I am from that neck of the woods. I was in a place called West Jefferson, know where that is? Its a great place up there to visit. Not so much to live. Glad to be in Atlanta now.
DOB if you ever get up that way (which I doubt-its a little hole in the wall place) they have an Excellent BBQ place called Smokey Mountain BBQ and its the vinegar BBQ that you love!! Great place to eat. Haven’t been there in years but I would think its still there.
May 9th, 200912:12 am
I started watching it because of Adam Rodriguez but even he can’t save the show…
May 9th, 200912:14 am
Hanson will continue to push the Braves for a spot in the ML rotation with his performance. Medlin, though, has been just as hot and also deserves a shot. Morton is also reestablishing himself. There are 3 options if Jo Jo can’t improve and KK has to go to the DL.
May 9th, 200912:15 am
Ah yes…BBQ…ya’ll are making me hungry! Gotta have some brunswick stew with it!
I enjoy a little “Q and stew” every so often!
May 9th, 200912:16 am
CharlieAlphaBravo — I just went and watched the replay of Hamels’ dribbler. You’re right — the ball does change direction and it looks like it hits his left foot. You can see it most clearly from the angle of the camera on the 3rd base line in the upper deck. Good call. Jo-Jo should’ve thrown his arms up, started yelling and pointing at Hamels’ foot. At the very least, let it go foul.
May 9th, 200912:17 am
It’s really sad that not even drinking can make CSI:Miami watchable (CBF)
yup. total waste of an hour Only one I like is the original of the CSI group.
May 9th, 200912:24 am
it’s more of a waste of 40 minutes (Tivo is my hero) and it’s kinda actung as background right now but it is still 40 minutes I will not get back (and yes, the original is the only one worth watching)
You are not the real Braveheart who regularly blogs on here. Read my post carefully because this is the last time I respond to you.
If indeed you are who you say you are, you don’t need to use race as a crutch. The Civil War is over. I’m color blind in all respects. It’s juvenile to come to a computer blog and do all of this crazy talk.
So, “Braveheart”, take your bipolar self to the med cabinet and take your lithium.
This is the last correspondence from me to you.
Flat Billed Caps
May 9th, 200912:33 am
Anyone else notice that the two guys on the Braves with no curve in the cap bill (straight out of the box) suck the most, Messrs. Reyes and Schafer.
May 9th, 200912:37 am
Someone had said something about Kawakami going to relief…but, geesh..thats an awfully expensive relief pitcher…
May 9th, 200912:38 am
Guys, any suggestions as to which prison I should visit next in search of football recruits?
May 9th, 200912:39 am
BTW, any updates on Tim Hudson’s rehab progress?
I have never heard of an 8M middle reliever.
May 9th, 200912:40 am
Hudson is already throwing side sessions……..he is feeling good.
May 9th, 200912:41 am
it’s more of a waste of 40 minutes (CBF)
yeah that’s true. I never watch much of anything that isn’t recorded. In fact most of the time I wait until the season is over and watch them all together. Finished Damages last weekend-didn’t think it was quite as good as the first season, On the last 4-5 episodes of Chuck right now. I hope it gets renewed. Next up is the last season of Boston Legal. I’ll miss it.
May 9th, 200912:42 am
I wonder, then, what the alternative is if Kawakami continues to falter? They couldn’t just release him cuz they would still owe him the money, right?
IMO, I think the Braves should have worried more about a legitimate outfield bat. But, what do I know..Im just a denizen…
May 9th, 200912:47 am
the only things I watch unrecorded these days are Braves and 49ers games…and all signs point to Chuck (one of my favs) being renewed
May 9th, 200912:49 am
I just wonder how much the Braves folks knew about Kawakami prior to signing him? Did they do the proper homework on him?
Were there issues of shoulder fatigue in the past? Feels kind of like we got ourselves lemon, here.
Even the Giants look better than the Braves as Im watching the LA SF game
May 9th, 200912:50 am
A lemon, pardon the typo
Dr. Van Nostren
Necromancer, in hindsight, I’m sure the Braves privately regret the Kawakami signing. Looking at it now, it’s clear we would’ve been better off using that $8-9/year (don’t have the exact figure in front of me) on a legit LF bat. But you have to recall the situation at the time. We had not yet signed Derek Lowe so there were gaps in the starting rotation. Furthermore, I don’t think they had anyway of knowing that Hanson, Medlen and Reyes would be so successful in spring training (not to mention Morton’s fantastic start this season at Gwinnett). If they had passed on Kawakami and then missed out on Lowe, they would’ve really been in a bind filling out the rotation. They would’ve likely been forced to open the season with at least two of the youngsters in the starting rotation with no fallback plan in case they failed.
I think the Giants actually give a damn!
May 9th, 200912:53 am
Hmm…so, if Lowe had been landed first by the Bravos, then we probably never would have fooled with Kawakami, then, I guess…
But now, we have at least 2 weak links in the rotation, Jo Jo and the aforementioned Kawakami. I’m just glad the decision making process isnt on me.
May 9th, 200912:55 am
Well going to go see Star Trek in the morning.
And good luck tomorrow!!!
I’ve said this once and I’ll say it again about Tim Hudson. He has a very unique situation in his contract. There is a club option for 2010 at 12M however Tim has the ability to void the club option. This creates a funky situation. If the Braves are out of it say 10+ games by the end of July why would they want to start Tim that early. They would be better off if they rehabbed him until late August and only had him start 6-7 games. That way the sample size on his health would be limited and the Braves would be the only true team to be completely briefed on his health. This would eliminate the idiot Yankees and spend happy red sox from offering a kawakami style blind bid @ 3yr/30M. At just 6-7 starts to evaluate that is much riskier versus 13-15 starts.
May 9th, 200912:57 am
As I said before…….KK is not a bad 4th starter………he is just that……….4th…………He is not supposed to win 20 games……… he is supposed to go something like 12-10 ( in a championship team), which he still can do………I think he is not the problem, If he was the problem, vazquez, JJJ and Lowe woulds be something like 10-3 added up, and they are far from it.
May 9th, 20091:00 am
Whew Doc, I hope then that Kawakami starts the turnaround then. I mean, the guy has good stuff. Just a little aggravating to see 8m perform like he has so far…
May 9th, 20091:07 am
KK and Lowe signed the same day
May 9th, 20091:09 am
1st start…………. 6 IP………..3 ER
3rd start………….. 5IP……….. 2 ER
5th Start………….. 5IP……… 2ER
My friend, Im sorry to tell you that after 5 starts, he looks as an upgrade to James………. dont even need to think for a split second.
I would take any day 5 and 6 IP and 2-3 ER out of my 4th starter…………Maybe he could have stayed further in the game if our powerful lineup was not to be shut down and our defense letting pitching down.
When he exits game 1 he was ahead………….when he exits game 3 the game was tied. Both games lost 3-4. Hey if your offense is not scoring theres nothing you can do.
May 9th, 20091:10 am
Go to this website it will show you all the moves The Wren and Stimpy Show made.
May 9th, 20091:11 am
Forgot to mention that in game 2 and 4, braves only scored 2 and 2 runs………..that means that the run support for him in his 4 loses is 10………. 2.5 run per game? Tough to win that way.
May 9th, 20091:14 am
If the baseball Gods loved the braves makes me wanna cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 9th, 20091:16 am
What do you want Smoltz for? He is not even playing. Hanson has not been in the majors……….he could be another james or kyle or horacio o schafer…………
May 9th, 20091:20 am
When he exits game 1 he was ahead………….when he exits game 3 the game was tied. Both games lost 3-4. Hey if your offense is not scoring theres nothing you can do.
THAT INFO WAS NOT ACCURATE
He lost games 3 and 5 with a score 3-4
When he exit game 3 it was tie and when he exit game 5 he was down by 2
May 9th, 20091:22 am
When does Bobby Cox give up on a guy? It’s been 11 months…9 losses. It was Homer run derby in May. I don’t get it.
KK was signed a couple days before Lowe.
We have 3 diffent pitchers among leader……….wins, k and ERA………..that sounds like the old good times…………hope the offense wakes up before is too late.
May 9th, 20091:23 am
go to the continental AND have the BIG BANG breakfast this morning.
the pancakes and the two eggs thing is off the charts.
it will wipe away all the i-95 traffic.
when we flew in to philly last week we stood around for at least 30 minutes waiting for our luggage to arrive.
in that time i noticed a guy who was somewhat reconizable.
it was BRUCE BENNEDICT. the ex braves catcher, he is now a sec basketball official. we chatted about him and tommy lasorda’s comment about him and pregnant women finishing thrid in a race.
great guy. we talked about the 82 team, the rainout when they were up.
talked about claudell, knucksie and the murph.
very grounded guy. looked like he could still play.
asked him about i-285 pascual perez, all he said was no comment.
he loved joe torre and bobby cox, same guy.
May 9th, 20091:24 am
Nationals and pirates have scored more runs than us………….IT DOESNT LOOK GOOD, MAYDAY MAYDAY GOOSE IS IN TROUBLE.
May 9th, 20091:25 am
That being said………youve got to wonder how can that be, since the braves are 5th in OBP.
Im sorry your right because smoltz would lose 9 games in a row too.
May 9th, 20091:27 am
We can analyze this team to death, but it all comes down to this:
1) Starting pitching has been above average…Great sign, but Kawa./Reyes are costing us games which hurts, especially when the offense happens to show up for that game.
2) Pen has been average to above average…Good sign but health ?’s still remain with the three big boys
3) Offense has a huge spark with Mac back, but still don’t get on enough…needs to improve
4) Defense has been shakey in ‘09 for some reason and needs to improve…has probably cost us a few games already, including tonight
5) Management is stubborn and grows man crushes on guys when showing them the door is neccessary…TP really stands out in my mind here since I don’t think it’s a coiencedence that our hitters are about as streaky as a group of hitters can be. Not chewing guys out when game after game they make the same bone-headed mistakes makes me think guys are too pampered, really stands out to me too.
Hopefully things kinda work themselves out for this team throughout the long season.
Phillies leading the league in fielding percentage…………you can ask the 2007 rockies how important it is to be the best defensive team in the league.
Doc, I’ve come to realize pirates will be better, this is not the same Pirates, they have some young pitchers.
May 9th, 20091:29 am
5th in OBP is not enough?
May 9th, 20091:30 am
Agree w/you Doc. KK has been what he is: a 4th starter. He had one AWFUL start, but aside from that, he’s given his team a chance to win his other four starts. Sure, he needs to show better command and be more economical with his pitches, but he’s been a solid fourth starter other than that one horrible outing @ Cincy. Of course, he had to get a cortisone shot in his shoulder the day after that start.
May 9th, 20091:31 am
Pitching pirates? I can understand…………..but more runs? what a joke.
May 9th, 20091:32 am
TnBrian, getting on base hasn’t been the problem with the offense. The problem has been coming up with clutch hits w/men on base. We can get people on base, but far too often we can’t advance them and/or drive them in.
We need to do these small things to win:
WORK THE COUNT AND GET TO THE EFFING BULLPEN
May 9th, 20091:34 am
We are still in it……….no need to say……….long season, but phillies and mets look like they are ready to heat up………they are playing a little better, specially the phillies……….if they start getting away…….it will be hard to catch them……..not because they are awfully good, but because we are not a team capable of closing a 7 game gap in 15 days.
May 9th, 20091:36 am
Braveheart……….I have asked this many times and everybody seem to ignore the question……..so here it goes again………. does anybody knows if Shawn is alive? I mean, I have not read a post from him in months.
Oh BTW, I’m N Nine, just being different today. Feeling Mchappy with Mcturtle back.
We don’t stand out over any lineup, especially with Mac n Chip out at times. Not a shocker Doc.
May 9th, 20091:38 am
Suddenly the division is taking a shape we might get to see when the final out gets here……….
phillies, mets, fish, braves, nats………….no surprise there.
May 9th, 20091:42 am
That is true BH………
This looks like a softball team………….absolutely no power…………… Norton has not hit the ball out of the IF I think……………the guy has been totally absent this year.
Opposing pitching are not afraid of the braves………they know they wont take it out………..not even to the warning track.
May 9th, 20091:44 am
After reading countless posts and thinking all sorts of different scenarios, why not do this:
Send Parr back to AAA, move JoJo to the pen as a lefty specialist (check his numbers v LHH, they’re outstanding), and bring up Medlen if they’re so worried about starting Hanson’s clock…would still rather see Hanson, but I will never discount what Kris Medlen has done so far…
At this point, someone else deserves a shot to get the ball come Wed. as I feel they’ve given JoJo every opportunity and while he’s had some good pitching performances, he follows those up by falling on his face in the next 3-4 starts after that.
Hope tomorrow goes better, but the game tonight proved why we’re where we are and why the Phillies are where they are!
Expectations may fall short.. We(most) penciled in 20-25HR from Frenchy, KJ, Kotchman,Mac, Chip. We may get lucky if 2 reach this mark. All this with no speed. Hazardous combo.
May 9th, 20091:45 am
Tied for 3rd fewest amount of HR ……….that is our of this world………..I mean, this is not that weak a team on paper……….. KJ, Chipper, JF, Mc, GA, CK, yunel…….all capable of at least 15 and some of them 20 -30 HR…………they all are on pace to hit 10 – 15 with some luck.
Braveheart, I think we’re better off if Francoeur sacrifices a little power to shorten his swing and reach base more consistently. I’d rather see him hit .285 with 20 HR and 100 RBI than .255 with 28-30 HR and fewer RBI. I think his power will come as he gets used to his new stance and approach at the plate. If you’re expecting 30 HR, you’ll be disappointed, but I really think he’ll end up with around 20 HR by season’s end.
May 9th, 20091:46 am
Thats because Terry Pendleton’s theory was to turn him into a punch and judy singles, hit for average player…
I keep saying that I would rather Jeff hit .260 and have 30 HR than .290 w/ 12-15.
Also, I heard the guys talking on BT about how the D-Backs fired their manager and hitting coach partly because the talent they brought up through the system in 07 was supposed to produce largely, BUT they have all seemed to regress over time…
Sound familiar (ie Kelly, Yunel, Jeff, among others)
May 9th, 20091:47 am
Any way we can twist and turn JoJo and find a positive at different angle? I’m looking. I was bashing KK but now he’s suddenly a star.
May 9th, 20091:48 am
again, the only problem with bringing Medlen up is that he has been a reliever for most of his career- I am not sure he would be capable of pitching more then 5 innings at a time right now…I would rather have him pitch a (mostly) full season in AAA and call him up in September then risk an arm issue because he isn’t “streched out” as they say- we can always call up Charlie Morton if need be (and weither you like him or not, Glavine might be the best option- we won’t know until he tries)
It is getting better with Omar playing but Yunel and Frenchy swing at the first pitch is killing us. Jordan cant hit a fastball and after the pitcher that gives us 5 hitters to work the count. Average pitches per at bat is 3.76. Frenchy and Yunel cost the team around a combined 8 pitches a game they dont take vs the average. That could mean the difference between a starter going back out in the 6th or the 7th meaning that the weakest part of a MLB team (the bullpen) is not exposed. This team is not playong team ball. We need hitters that can hit with 2 strikes period no excusses. The fact that they don not take pitches is flat out selfish. Why do you think the Micah Owings of the world love to face us. Also we keep their BP fresh so when they do need to use them they look dominant. Bottom line until we start working counts and getting to the BP we will continue to struggle offensively.
May 9th, 20091:49 am
Doc it’s still kinda early…lol
It sure doesn’t feel like we’re only 3 games out of first.
May 9th, 20091:50 am
Looking only at HR, I’d project the following: Chipper around 20- maybe low 20s, KJ 15-18 HR, Kotchman 12-14 HR, McCann low 20s, GAnderson 12-15 HR. Plain and simple, this team is going to need to do a much better job of hitting w/men on base. We’ve got plenty of guys who should post solid batting averages, we just need folks to step up w/clutch hits to knock more of those baserunners in.
He is not a star………..you know what we are saying……….he is giving the team a chance…………phillies would have won 4 of his 5 starts………it is that simple.
May 9th, 20091:51 am
May 9th, 20091:52 am
They guy that used to post a lot about stats and studies………percentages and stuff like that.
misprint 6 hitters
May 9th, 20091:54 am
Sure………… Im surprised………….every time I look at the standings and find the braves holding on close while playing so poorly……..it is amazing……….If you asked me, Id say it feels as if the braves were like 7-10 games behind.
May 9th, 20091:55 am
francoer’s obp % is just about 50 points less then anyone
on the team.
his .ops is around .730.
if he was a middle infielder it would stink. he is frickin right fielder.
no way do you continue to pay someone that continues to disapoint.
for all of you defenders, did you ever notice that he might be the BIGGEST PROBLEM.
in a equation he has been a constant.
the dude gets 650 plus plate appearrances.
blah, blah, he is how do you say, not acheiving.
corner outfielders should
May 9th, 20092:00 am
If you look closer in the standings………you will find that things are starting to shape up……….Angels 7-3 in last 10………….. pirates 1-9…………..Redsox are in 1st………..milwaukee playing much better………. seattle getting back to earth. SD is back to hell. Phillies and muts back on top.
The only surprise out there are the royals……….they just keep winning.
May 9th, 20092:02 am
after going 13-0 at home, the Dodgers have lost 2 in a row to the Nats and Giants…but of course there is no cause for concern over losing their best player, none at all (just ask their fans)
May 9th, 20092:03 am
Doc- you forgot to mention Farve to unretire LOL
May 9th, 20092:04 am
You might be right, but I think they are walking the secure path…….which is letting him hit for average, make contact, get on base and get his confidence back…………when they achieve that, fully………they can go back to plan A, which is HR and RBI. Problem is that Turner Field is not a lab where you come to make your experiments because you need to see results………now.
May 9th, 20092:06 am
sometimes I really do love the ESPN News guys- one of them just called Alex Rodriguez the “ringless, three ring circus”
A couple other stats on Francoeur that are worth mentioning: He’s batting .409 with a HR, 10 RBI, 1.186 OPS and 2BB/3K in 22 AB with runners on and 2 outs this season. I’d say that’s pretty good clutch hitting.
May 9th, 20092:08 am
Correct me if Im wrong but didn’t Medlen just throw 8 IP his last time out?
May 9th, 20092:12 am
not sure, I am just going by what I’ve heard and read, mainly during spring trraining. I was under the impression the Braves wanted Medlen to get used to pitching more innings on a regular basis because he had not been a starter…I do like him a lot and think at some point he will be a good addition to the big league club, but I don’t see any reason to rush him, especially with Charlie Morton pitching so well
for cryin out loud the trainig wheels are off. he is what he is.
excuses, new stances, telling furman bisher it will not happen again?
i actually half like him, but he needs to stay away from the microphone.
like my old man said, “talk is cheap”
May 9th, 20092:13 am
cabravesfan- We are seeing the aftermath of Mannyless LA Dodgers. Go Blue. Did you see Bill Plaske on espn? Dude was in tears… Dodgers are good but Manny their fuel.
Doc- We’ve gone 8-15 , lost 3 games in standings. No beast in the East this year.
May 9th, 20092:16 am
Plaschke is a moron…I stopped reading him years ago. Every once in a while he will write a truly brilliant column, but they have become few and very far between.
Dodgers are good, but they are also lucky they play in such a p*ss poor division
May 9th, 20092:18 am
one of the guys in my office was nearly in tears yesterday when the story about Manny broke (of course, it didn’t help that I cracked up every time I read a new story about him and his female fertility drugs )
May 9th, 20092:24 am
mensa member in the house, new braveheart you probably tested through the roof.
May 9th, 20092:25 am
Cabravesfan-Oh that’s how you spell his name Thanks!! I agree, lost respect for him and Tony quickly executed him first.
Braveheart- noticed our little closet friend, count came out today..hmmm
May 9th, 20092:48 am
it’s way past my bed time…Good night all!
No More Bobby
May 9th, 20092:50 am
Let me guess Bobby – we are only 3 games out right? Yep…. 3 GAMES OUT OF LAST PLACE!!!
The Nats are getting things together and we could easily end up last this year folks.
BOBBY BALL IS BORING AND PLAYED OUT!!!!!!!
May 9th, 20095:05 am
I think it’s time to try someone else in the 5th starter spot. Maybe Hanson?
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 9th, 20096:00 am
Braveheart is correct, the N.L. East is going to be a dogfight all season long.
The question is, can our Braves hang around long enough to be part of that fight?
We know the Phillies, Mets and Marlins are all in it. They are all within a half game of each other. Those Nationals were finished before the season even started. Our Braves?
Well, lets just say it’s a long slippery slope before September gets here.
May 9th, 20096:06 am
Wow, that loser was allowed to go on all night using my moniker, huh?
May 9th, 20096:46 am
while more homeruns would be good braves really need fewer strikeouts and more stolen bases.
TP needs to go….he has not been able to do anything with the batters….look at JS….leads the league in strikeouts.
CK belongs at first….true he has little power, but he has a great strikeout to walk ratio.
KJ belongs in left field with Diaz or Anderson off the bench….trade the other.
BC is too attached to yesterday and not focused on today and tomorrow.
Unfortunately, braves will be living the sins of the fathers for some time…bad trades by JS and bad player assessment by BC….remember the bad moves by BC and JS were when braves had a great pitching rotation which braves no longer has.
May 9th, 20096:51 am
Are u drunk the braves start big series by losin under the leadership Of Bobby(wifebeater)cox n TP and wren and that lousy CF who needs be sent to A ball now.and what worst we get see the braves on fox so all can see how dam bad we are again.philles sweep braves n will be in race with The Nats for last. Should be one great race to see.I just knew after Mets took both from the fightin phillies they were sayin hey guys we be all right we play The Atlanta braves Triple-A team under the watchfull eyes of a lousy GM and bobby(chokein)cox….and his oh we be fine we hurt excuse’s frency still can’t hit out of a emma bag the CF can’t field n catch like one should had caught in 5 inning….I think Local channel should not show us in atlanta to save the crap from us to see….and show other game instead!
May 9th, 20097:19 am
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