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So How Long
May 4th, 2009
9:19 pm
For all of you, “it’s early, we’ll right the ship” people out there, what do you expect to do this week? Sweep the Mets? Guess that one is out. Go to Florida and whip up on the Fish? Ah yes, then go to Philly and take 2 of 3 from the Phils.
It’s not just who is in the lineup and what they might be capable of doing, it’s about real life and real life performance! Braves ain’t gonna win waiting until next week to get it going. They’ve been waiting for next week for three, going on four years now!
Is it Bobby? If it is, retire the guy. Is it the players? If it is, move some of them out!
One thing is for sure. This combo ain’t working. This combo hasn’t won in the past, ain’t winning now and won’t win in the future! Make changes or as Chipper would say, be prepared to be “the laughing stock of the East again!”
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
9:19 pm
Tomahawkin, what’s to announce? How bad the offense is, or how Schafer needs to set on fire with a blow torch? Oh, I know, how Bobby picks his nose better than he picks the lineup that he sends out there each game.
smoltz, maddux, glavine
May 4th, 2009
9:20 pm
too much pressure in the pitching staff, they have to be sooo perfect all the time.there is no suport in defense or ofense.
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
9:20 pm
Ugh. Yall are giving me a headache. Bye.
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
9:20 pm
Switch the darn lineup up. It doesnt hurt anything. We aren’t scoring any runs. Our best hitter is riding the pine, and we do nothing to try score runs but send the same horrible 1 and 2 hitters up. CHANGE IT UP!!!!
JD
May 4th, 2009
9:20 pm
Is reactionary a word?
monty
May 4th, 2009
9:21 pm
After watching Frenchy’s last AB yesterday and his last two tonight. It looks like he has gotten impatient, and has expanded his strike zone like last year. Hope I’m wrong but it looks like his new approach experiment is officially over.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:21 pm
As Joe Simpson Said I agree Jordan’s wrist is hurt more than we are led to believe…
Sit him for a Couple of games and Let B. Jones Play center, especially if GA is coming back 2morrow…
leif garret anderson
May 4th, 2009
9:21 pm
Tomahawkin:
Thanks I’ll keep that in mind but only have 1 remote. It sucks enough having to listen to keith hernandez color the game. His best tv work will always be from Seinfeld. He truly sucks!
smoltz, maddux, glavine
May 4th, 2009
9:22 pm
whats wrong with infante and prado playing. just because they are not white.
only a couple, see other teams and those guys can run, hit the ball hard and they don’t sit because of glasses, thumb etc..
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:22 pm
We have like 4 HR at home this year.
JP
May 4th, 2009
9:22 pm
this is so depressing…
Jake W.
May 4th, 2009
9:23 pm
KJ is really struggling but if you’re gonna put him in the lineup put him torwards the bottom of the order. I know Bobby is trying to get him back to being good KJ becuase God knows we need him but the fact of the matter is Infante is hot. Why not ride out his hot streak till it ends. I also think Frenchy should be batting cleanup over kotchman. You have to have the threat of power in your cleanup spot and Kotchman just doesn’t represent that. And if Schafer’s wrist is hurting him, why not DL him and call up Blanco. It may do Schafer a world of good to rest the wrist and then work on his problems at the plate. Thats all I can suggest for this team other than hope McCann and Anderson come back swinging like Hammerin Hank.
smoltz, maddux, glavine
May 4th, 2009
9:23 pm
guys, brewers-pirates good game. 3-3
JD
May 4th, 2009
9:23 pm
Oh, I know, how Bobby picks his nose better than he picks the lineup that he sends out there each game.
Actually, Bobby picks his nose better than anyone in the game. You could say that he’s better at picking his nose than Albert Pujols is at hitting.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:24 pm
TnBrian,
What’s there to Announce…?
I have heard that the mets Commentators have been calling their players out for their slack-off type of play…Maybe Chip and Joe need to do the Same, because we are losing games we should’ve have won early in the year which ain’t gonnna cut it in September
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
9:24 pm
If Schafer is hurt than play Infante. Is it that hard?
JD
May 4th, 2009
9:24 pm
Sit him for a Couple of games and Let B. Jones Play center, especially if GA is coming back 2morrow…
If Schafer sits, then who’s going to strike out for us?
N Nine
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
anyone taking advantage of “free game for birthday?”
It’s not June, but it feels like it
Ray K.
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
This team is worse than last years’ pathetic incarnation. It’s as if ownership does just enough in the offseason to keep us mildly interested until July, but the outcome is inevitable year after year. My friend in NY, a die hard Mets fan, is even feeling sorry for me. His last text was simply “wow”
smoltz, maddux, glavine
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
both teams can actually hit the ball
Chop It Up All-star
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
Oh yeah, why is Kelly Johnson leading off again? Omar Infante was doing an excellent job, and as far as I’m concerned he’s earned the right to play.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
Would we not have an advanced scouting report on Putz because of Soriano? I mean IDK how other pitchers can help but I mean…..
Horner's Corner
May 4th, 2009
9:25 pm
Roman Gal-
Please, not anther post about how all we have to do is wait for the next great farm hand to arrive and turn this ship around. I ain’t hold’in my breath.
McFann Ô Ô
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
Mark in PA–
Oh yeah! The other turtle was napping, had to wake her up.
Wish the Mets still had Heilman…
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
Leif Garrett Anderson…
I believe It was the Kolb in 05 that made me throw 6 remotes at the TV…I got so bad that year I started throwing shoe’s at the Tube…
Offense Come On, Watch us make the Mets Blow-pen all look like Mariano Rivera, “Bank On It!”
DirtyYuni
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
I leave with the Braves 3-0, Javy cruising.
I return and Beltran’s homered twice, Wright’s gone deep, and our offense has gone silent.
The only part of that I’m surprised about is that Wright went deep.
Ugh.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
GO CHIPPER!
Smyrna Jim
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
Thanks, Chipmeister!
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
JD there are plenty of guys that can step-up and fill that role of striking out, don’t worry!
Tom O'Hawke
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
I am so done with this crappy team, I cant believe I almost ordered some tickets online today. Color me gone.GTSteve
Bubdylan — Hey man, we need your help here. What color is gone?
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
9:26 pm
Wow, Chipper just crushed that one
Necromancer
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Holy S%^&! Chipper tees off!!!
Jake W.
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
That looked like an Angry home run swing for Chipper. I would be Angry to at the way our offense is performing.
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Man, what a fat 0-2 pitch by Putz. Maybe won’t matter much, bat that was a huge mistake. And good to see.
P-Town Brave(Time to Find a New Staff)
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Wait, where did this Schafer being hurt stuff come from…? Is that legit?
Oh, and only w/ Bobby as the manager in Atlanta will two players like Prado and Infante sit over LESSER players…
Then again Bobby plans out every game before the season so its already written what the gameplan will be for August 24th and so on…
Congrats Bobby for once again doing nothing and getting to keep your job, even in this awful economy!
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Nice Hoss! Like It Matters, Now that the game is Over, Reminds me of A. Jones as far as Meaningless homers
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Only thing is NO ONE WAS ON BASE!!!!!
Chop It Up All-star
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
Way to go, Chip. Nice “solo” home run.
Horner's Corner
May 4th, 2009
9:27 pm
By the way, does anyone out there in the Braves Blogger world gives two sh*ts about how Glavine is progressing. Even if he does come back, he’s going to mediocre at best. Personally, I see little difference between Glavine and Jo-Jo at this point, other than the fact that Jo-Jo has an upside in that he may get better. I would rather see Jo-Jo (or Hanson or Morton or Redmond) pitch every 5th day.
N8
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
Hmmm. Whaddya know. Vazquez is unhittable for half a game and them implodes.
Shocker. Check the history folks. That’s the enigma known as Javier Vazquez. All the talent and “stuff” in the world, and just can’t harness it for an entire game on a regular basis.
In the AL with a team that can score runs, he’s a fine “innings eating” pitcher. Hell, on an NL team that scores runs, he would be. But if he has more than 11-12 wins for this team at the end of the year, I’ll be SHOCKED.
leif garret anderson
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
Believe it or not keith hernandez on tv is worse than the braves offense.
Barn Door Bobby
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
If Bobby would have taken the hint that Vazquez was done after giving up two shots in one inning, INSTEAD of leaving Javy in there to get burned again, then Chippers homer MIGHT have meant something.
As of now all it means is you’re still down by two instead of tied.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
That was the first homer Putz has given up for the Mets…fitting it was to Mets OWNER Chipper Jones.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
Love how Chipper doesn’t sit and admire his homers. That Mutt fans, is a classy and professional player.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:28 pm
P-Town Brave
Schaffer’s Wrist has been bothering him for over a week now I believe and obviously it decellerates you bat speed when you getting jammed 75 percent of your AB’s
JD
May 4th, 2009
9:29 pm
…and our offense has gone silent.
Because they were shouting and singing before? It seems like all our runs recently have come not from good hitting/coaching, but from mistakes from the other team. Errors, wild pitches, bases loaded walk, etc.
smoltz, maddux, glavine
May 4th, 2009
9:29 pm
i don’t know why sign lowe, vazques and kk. keep the money, develope players and lets be bad for 2 or 3 years, no mediocre forever.
boston is good and finally wining with 4 or 6 gys from farm system, marlins same, phillys same. we are not the yankees to afford every single posotion
Chop It Up All-star
May 4th, 2009
9:29 pm
WANTED: A power hitting 1st baseman and outfielder. Report to Turner Field.
ZC Rider
May 4th, 2009
9:29 pm
Next time the Mets face the Phils. I’m going to have to jump into a NY chatroom. Imagine these Mets fans argue with a bunch of Philadelphia idiots
Necromancer
May 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
DAYUMM!!!!! Did anyone see the “honeys” that were in the background behind Francouer???
kirkinga
May 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
nolie, I guess my thing is that from Little League on through Middle and High School, my coaches always stressed being prepared to steal, or laying down a bunt if if the guy is playing way back. We were taught that such things were not only part of the game, but ways to make hustle plays.
So this disbelief in “stealing as a strategy”, is redefining the game in a way that looks lazy to me. Runners are allowed to steal for a reason, to not use every possible way to score and win is disgusting to me.
There are other means to score besides waiting for power.
Like I said, philosophical differences, you either believe in putting maximum pressure on the defense every chance yo get or you don’t. Aggressive ball vs. Wait for ball.
LuisG
May 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
Ok, right, was he pitched instead of being pitched around? Meaningless or not, at least he didn’t waste an at-bat there to have you guys saying “he struck out again” or “chased a low slider early in the count”, or “doesn’t have an extra-base hit at home this year”. There’s one!
Trey06
May 4th, 2009
9:30 pm
Another day another loss… We NEED Mac back!
KROD
May 4th, 2009
9:31 pm
get us here. this is a 8 inning game.
Mark Windsor
May 4th, 2009
9:31 pm
So Far Braves STINK I can see now we are too short on power They fall behind and cant catch up The only Brave that deserves a round applase is Jerrigens and I cant spell his name
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:32 pm
vazquez ain’t an ace….everyone on here that’s taken an liking to him has said that. He’s good for maybe 5, maybe 6. He’s a good number 3 or 4 pitcher. That’s what he was brought here to do. In the past we have had pitchers that have imploded worse than that and the game would be about 11-4 right now. Having at least another pitcher win 10 games this year is an improvement over last season.
Kim
May 4th, 2009
9:32 pm
I remember back when the Brave were a lock for the postseason and we were disappointed if the team didn’t make it to the World Series. I remember feeling sorry for those Royal/Pirate/Brewer fans whose season was over after April.
Well, we are becoming that team. The last 3 years have been pathetic and you can just feel this one slipping away.
Chop It Up All-star
May 4th, 2009
9:32 pm
Jeff F. tried to hit a homerun instead of just trying to get on base, hence the strikeout.
Moby Grape
May 4th, 2009
9:32 pm
As I said…I just don’t get it. (FRANK KS)
it’s the instant gratification generation. ADD rules supreme. “I want what I want and I want it RIGHT NOW!! And if I don’t get it, I’m gonna throw a tantrum, They are in for a rude awakening when they eventually t learn that the world doesn’t give a damn about what they want or whether or not they throw a tantrum.
KROD
May 4th, 2009
9:33 pm
if fla lose. you still 2.5 out.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
9:33 pm
kirk–that’s because middle school teams aren’t that good at playing defense. Big league clubs are gonna convert that stuff to outs like clockwork.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:34 pm
Bobby C. Get Your Head Out of Your A..s And Put B. Jones At leadoff…!
He can’t be no worse than what we have now…
JD
May 4th, 2009
9:34 pm
Casey Krotchman’s more like it.
I wonder how many other cleanup hitters have 0 homeruns…and 4 RBIs. For the love of Ted Williams…there are pitchers with better power numbers!
stynes
May 4th, 2009
9:34 pm
Not ripping on Schafer. I think the kid has the potential to be very special. But the Ks have killed us the past week or so. I mean, yes it’s too many Ks but they’re coming at the most inopportune times. Any talk of sending him down or is everyone hoping since he’s so good at making adjustments – at least that’s what I keep hearing – that he’ll be able to work it out here in the bigs?
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:34 pm
The Phillies have a few players that aren’t home grown. Why we didn’t try and get Ibanez IDK.
Chop It Up All-star
May 4th, 2009
9:34 pm
Great hit Brandon!! All those bagging on Vasquez obviously don’t much about baseball. Yeah, he’s given up some runs his last couple of outs, but he’s given the Braves more quality starts than poor starts. Besides it has to be a lot of pressure on all Braves pitchers knowing they have to pitch a near shut out every night.
N8
May 4th, 2009
9:35 pm
Here’s the thing on Schafer guys. It is what it is. He’s a rookie. He’s young. He’s overmatched right now. Period. No two ways about it.
But so were Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Gant, Justice, even Chipper and Andruw struggled.
Only problem he has, is the supporting cast. They were all ALLOWED to struggle because the rest of the team was excellent. He isn’t afforded that luxury. But he needs to be up here learning, since he’s a big part of the future.
Those of us that have stated we’re looking at 2010 as the new “beginning” (I’ve been screaming – well… typing it), since winter, are OK with Schafer.
However, wasting money on D-Lowe, Kawakami, and G. Anderson, along with trading for Vazquez is the true “bummer” about this team. Not how a 22 year old rookie is adjusting (of failing to do so).
The misconception that this team would contend, and ownership trying to sell that bag of bones to the fan base is truly sad.
Some of us see the big picture, or the light at the end of the tunnel if you will.
But make no mistake, this team isn’t winning NOTHING this year. I’m not buyin’ it.
KROD
May 4th, 2009
9:35 pm
milwaukee, pirates and royals developed players and have 70 mill payroll or less.
Necromancer
May 4th, 2009
9:36 pm
Yeah, I love these Braves, but we can’t win it all like we did back in the 90’s with this pathetic offense. Also, it seems like when we fall behind, the players just hang their heads and concede defeat.
Past 3 years have been like this. These are sad times in Atlanta Braves baseball.
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
9:36 pm
Tom O Hawk
I don’t know what color gone is, I am just glad one of them left! Now, only 99 more to go!
One thing is for certain, when the Braves get untracked, it’s gonna be real nice on the blog, as many will leave as they will have nothing to complain about.
1995
May 4th, 2009
9:36 pm
F BOBBY COX!!! F WREN!!! F LIBERTY MEDIA!!!!
OVER IT!!! PEACE OUT LOSERS!!!! CALL ME WHEN WE HAVE A NEW MANAGER.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:36 pm
What business do the Nats have picking Stephen Strasburg when the whole world knows the ain’t got a shot in hell of signing him?
BabyGoatEater
May 4th, 2009
9:36 pm
Well, I was wrong about those numbers I’ve been asking for. Thanks for the link bravos2249. It seems if Shafer had been hitting lead-off all year, we would’ve had similar or lesser stats from what we have been getting with (shocking!) double the strikeouts. Here they are:
G/AB/R/H/2B/HR/RBI/BB/SO/BA/OBP/SLG /OPS
Braves Leadoff: 30/98/15/29/6/3/13/11/15/.296/.373/.469/.842
Shafer:24/77/11/20/6/2/3/18/30/.260/.400/.416/.816
P-Town Brave(Time to Find a New Staff)
May 4th, 2009
9:37 pm
Tomahawkin-
I can see now why he can’t hit that pitch then…and all the bitchin Chipper is doing is uncalled for…I mean really, we don’t have ANYONE else to play CF…and if you guys say Blanco, you should just hit yourself over the head w/ a mallet!
Other than that, I say again, we suck and nothing is going to change until we clean out the coaching staff….
Nothing has changed with Bobby running the show and nothing is going to…Eventually we’ll be the Nats or Royals from a few years ago…everyone is already laughing at us!
N Nine
May 4th, 2009
9:37 pm
N8 I know Vazquez is your whippin boy, but come on. He is NOT the problem. The offense is terrible and Vazquez is far better than some other pitchers.
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
9:37 pm
In his past nine games against the Braves, Wright has hit .529 with five doubles, seven homers, 13 RBI and seven walks.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:37 pm
Bravos2249…I’m Still Pissed that F. Wren didn’t go harder after Ibanez That’s why I gave him a D in my posts on this blog during S. Training in my Assessment of the offseason…
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:38 pm
I’m not bashing Schafer but how come more people jumped on Blanco last year and his inabilities than Schafer’s this year. I mean at least Blanco could bunt. Blanco right now I believe isn’t proving in Triple A he’s any better though.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
9:38 pm
Kim, oh please! You can feel the season slipping away in early May? Wow, are you a psychic?
DirtyYuni
May 4th, 2009
9:38 pm
For those of you who would like a welcomed distraction from the pain of losing to the Mutts, check this out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/sports/baseball/03lions.html?_r=2&ref=sports
Crazy picture of the stadium, and nice to know Dice-K is responsible for the warm butts of many a Japanese baseball fan.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
9:38 pm
We didnt waste money on D-Lowe. Schafer is a rookie playing what his 25th game?? Get off him. David Wright is struggling and he has won gold gloves, silver sluggers. Point is people struggle he will get it right. He is too talented and to many good vets on our team for him not to get it right.
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
9:38 pm
Sheff getting booed by the mere 19,000-plus fans as loudly as Hampton got booed the other night.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:39 pm
I think Braves fans are only Booing Sheff cause he’s a Met not cause they hate the guy.
JJ
May 4th, 2009
9:40 pm
they will be good team in 4 or 5 years. chipper, vazques, kk. they need a smaller short stop. wait for freeman, heyward, schafer, hanson, follow frency, maccan. and then go eng get 3 or 4 great players with a bunch of utility players.
don’t waste the money NOW..
Stephen
May 4th, 2009
9:40 pm
Why are they booing Sheff? I liked the guy.
Couch Tater
May 4th, 2009
9:40 pm
Just curious, the Braves are paying Brian 3.5 million this year and they can’t get him a pair of glasses overnight?
N8
May 4th, 2009
9:40 pm
Please don’t lump me in with “those bagging on Vazquez”.
I’m not stating NOTHING but fact, and am simply excepting him for what he is, what he has been in the past, and more than likely will continue to be.
A guy that eats innings (when he pitches good enough to last that long), and a guy that his teams usually win about half of his starts.
Along the way, he’ll remind you of Greg Maddux, the other times he reminds you of Albie Lopez.
Not knocking him, or saying he sucks. Just confused why so many think he’s better than he is, has been or will be. Why? Just because Bobby his his manager? Puleeez.
If we get 200 IP, 12 wins and a 4.50 ERA out of Vazquez we’re lucky. Period. Anything more is bonus.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
9:41 pm
19000 Fans And I bet 8000 were Mets Fans, Since This city Is so full of them….
Thanks Braves fans by Protesting the Play of this team for the last 3 years and not supporting these clowns by not showing up… (Real-Talk)
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
9:41 pm
Sheffield getting boo’d doesn’t surprise me. I have disliked him since he layed down on the Brewers early in his career.
1995
Don’t let the screen door hit you on your way out!
That’s 2 down, 98 to go!
Marty Funkhouser
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
DOB, how much longer do you think it’ll be before we see Medlen up here helping out the pen?
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
N8
That’s the type of numbers he put up last year so it’s not like your saying anything people don’t already know.
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
This team from an offensive perspective is depressing. I get extremely sad watching these guys try to hit and play baseball. It’s pathetic. The Lineup won’t get changed up. Prado and Infante apparently can’t get any playing time, and the team continues to lose. Depressing.
Mitchell
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
I’m seriously considering becoming an ex-Brave fan.
This is embarrassing. The Mets do not deserve to be the beneficiaries of this kind of crap. They’re even worse than we are and we’re giving it to them.
Nothing I love more than a meaningless Chipper Jones solo homerun to lead off an inning.
Maybe Joe Simpson should review Gary Sheffield’s playoff statistics in the two post-season series he appeared in.
Two hits if I’m not mistaken. Maybe three.
Tom O'Hawke
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
DOB — so what are you saying now, Turner Wright?
JJ
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
start bennet for kk
DirtyYuni
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
Couchtater…I was wondering the same EXACT thing.
I feel like Lenscrafters could get me a pair of glasses quicker than McCann’s gotten his.
Moderate Maniac
May 4th, 2009
9:42 pm
N8,
I made the same point earlier today on the blog. Shafer would probably be in a better situation if he were with the Red Sox or a team where everyone contributes offensively. As it is, he has lots of pressure on him to produce virtually every time at bat because the group of “vets” in the lineup aren’t producing.
I’m on the bandwagon with the Shafer injury question though. Is his wrist so bad he can’t swing the bat? If it is, then how can you continue to let him hit in situations where you are behind and the tying or go ahead runs in scoring position?
N Nine
May 4th, 2009
9:43 pm
I think Braves fans are only Booing Sheff cause he’s a Met not cause they hate the guy.
Not his fault he got dumped by his team. He needed a job to get ONE hr, so can’t fault him there.
Now him shooting it up with Bonds and doning nothing in the playoffs for us, that’s a different story.
McFann Ô Ô
May 4th, 2009
9:43 pm
Nice pickoff!