Greetings from the ballpark where “76 Trombones” is playing right now for a parade of Little Leaguers around the stadium – gotta love a little Music Man to start your Sunday – and dogs are making their way into the upper deck for a little Bark in the Park.
Lots of activity going on, including in the lineup. Get to that in a second. It’d be nice not to have to endure what DOB did the last two days with some inopportune showers. I don’t think the stuff is supposed to roll in until the late afternoon, so maybe we’ll squeeze this one in.
OK, the lineup. Before anybody thought Jordan Schafer was going to stay in the leadoff spot, and Kelly Johnson would be back in there again today. No. With left-hander Wandy Rodriguez going for the Astros, Omar Infante is batting leadoff and Jordan Schafer is back in the eighth hole. And Kelly Johnson is out the lineup again.
I can just feel some blood pressures rising out there, but let me throw this stat out at you that was pointed out to me. Omar Infante is hitting .440 (11-for-25) in six games in the leadoff hole with a .500 on-base percentage. He has five hits in his last two games in the leadoff spot. Schafer reached base twice yesterday on hits, but struck out the other three at-bats, and got picked off. But I still say it was a good sign for him that Bobby put him up there to get a taste of it. There will be more of that to come.
The fact that Omar was back in there at second base could also raise some eyebrows. After sitting for a couple of games, the slumping Johnson was back in at second Saturday, only to sit Sunday. Maybe this is the start of another platoon at second base, something Kelly dealt with for stretches last season.
The irony there, of course, is that Kelly is hitting left-handers (.308) much better than right-handers (.174).
Here’s the lineup:
1. Omar Infante 2B
2. Yunel Escobar SS
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Jeff Francoeur RF
5. Martin Prado 1B
6. Matt Diaz LF
7. David Ross C
8. Jordan Schafer CF
9. Jo-Jo Reyes
Jo-Jo Reyes is still looking for his first win since June 13 vs. the Angels. He’s 0-8 with a 6.56 ERA in 16 games since then, 15 starts. But if he pitches like he did against the Cardinals, that win should come soon, perhaps in a couple of hours…..Of course the Braves have to score more than two runs to give him a shot, and they haven’t managed to do that if four of their last six games.
They do have some bats scheduled to come back this week, or that’s the idea. Garret Anderson is eligible to come off the disabled list Tuesday against the Mets and that’s his plan. He’s run the bases each of the last two days and had no problems with his quadriceps.
He elected not to go out on a minor league rehabilitation assignment – which Bobby left up to him – because he doesn’t think he’s been out long enough to warrant it.
Brian McCann is eligible to come off on Friday. He’s still waiting for his prescription Oakley’s to come in and when they do, he’ll head up to Gwinnett for a game or two to see how they feel.
BIG SERIES UPCOMING
Jair Jurrjens only went two innings yesterday which means the Braves could have brought him back to pitch on Tuesday vs. the Mets and Johan Santana. Kenshin Kawakami has had some shoulder fatigue and had his start pushed back to that day, so it would have made some sense. But Cox said he would keep his rotation in order and Kawakami was OK to go.
Jurrjens did make a point about the upcoming road trip that was pretty strong. After the Mets come in here for two games Monday and Tuesday, the Braves travel to play Florida, Philadelphia and to play the Mets at the new Citi Field.
“This road trip is going to be the whole season for us,” Jurrjens said. “(Starting in Florida) this is the team we’re going to be fighting the division for. I think when a team beats you the first series they have more confidence coming into the other series. We just need to win at least two of the series coming up against our division rivals.”
JJ was referring to the series sweep the Marlins dealt the Braves on April 14-16. The Marlins swept the Nationals after that, only to lose their next seven in a row. The Marlins have gone 6-9 since that series with the Braves.
More from Jurrjens: “Try to win series. We just need to come together as a team and do small things. We started doing things yesterday and got away from it. Try to move the runner. Pitching too. Get the big outs. Pick people up.”
CAMPILLO UPDATE
Jorge Campillo is eligible today to come off the disabled list today. His shoulder is feeling better, and he’s been playing long toss. He plans to throw a bullpen session Tuesday and throw another side session or two before heading out on a minor league rehabilitation assignment.
I asked him if he regretted playing for Mexico in the WBC which might have caused him these issues, and he pointed out that his mistake might have been not playing winter ball. This was the first time in his career he didn’t play winter ball. So he went from light throwing to fairly serious competition on one fell swoop. I asked him if he would choose not to play in the WBC if Mexico asked again. He said not necessarily. Just next time he would play winter ball.
OK, that’s it. More as we go!
1,163 comments Add your comment
Scotty
May 3rd, 2009
1:18 pm
I for one think the kj and infante platoon is great. It keeps both guys fresh and eager to get in the lineup. I just wish bobby would leave schafer in the leadoff spot. Good work CR. Go braves
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
1:25 pm
The only problem with a platoon is just what Carroll said and what DOB has brought up about how KJ hits lefties better
Trey06
May 3rd, 2009
1:26 pm
It will be nice to get Mac back. Even though he’s off to a slow start, his bat helps Chipper get better pitches to hit. And it’s pretty evident that we don’t have much power so every bit helps.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
1:27 pm
I think Schafer yesterday was “dipping his toe” into the lead-off spot. He hit lead-off quite alot in Spring Training. Now, let him process yesterday’s experience and get prepared for the next time, when he’ll probably go there to stay.
On KJ/Infante…KJ was the coldest Brave in this offensively challenged stretch. Omar is about the hottest Brave. Gotta get some offense from somewhere, right now.
When the injured reserve comes back and shows that they’re ready, then, go back to the original plan. For now, anyone who can hit the ball, play’em.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
1:29 pm
5th!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
1:30 pm
I wonder if there’s a stat for post-rain-delay performance. It seems that the Braves have only scored one or two runs after a rain delay this season.
I think they’ve only come back to win one game after a rain delay, and that was the bases loaded walk, 1-0, victory in Washington.
If they’re tied or trailing going into a rain delay, it seems that it is game over.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:31 pm
God I’d hate to be at the ballpark on Bark in the Park with the possibility of rain. The smell of wet dogs….EWW.
22oz
May 3rd, 2009
1:33 pm
Hey Carroll,
Wasn’t Furman Bisher’s article good?
Dan
May 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm
Another platoon not backed up by stats. Cox has a habit of doing this.
KELLY JOHNSON, 2009
vs. Left: .308/.419/.654, 1.073 OPS, 2 homeruns (26 at-bats)
vs. Right: .174/.255/.283, .538 OPS, 1 homerun (46 at-bats)
Johnson also hit .333 (in 150 at-bats) against left-handers in 2008 and had a higher OPS against them than right-handers that year too.
Sure, platoon him and make his starts against right-handers. That really makes just a whole lot of sense. Plus Infante’s OPS is nearly 200 points higher against right handers this year.
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers!
Ah…can’t wait for Friday. For the first time in my life, I want it to be time to play the Fillies! Hey, they prayed for BMac at Mass today!
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm
Mets got rained out and Braves catch a huge break. It’ll be Maine and Livan Hernandez now. NOT Johan Santana on Tuesday
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
1:35 pm
People, stop waiting for the offense to explode…it’ll show up when the hitters damn well want it to!
DAM
May 3rd, 2009
1:36 pm
braves came back to beat the nationals on opening night at turner field this year on KJ’s game-winning single.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
1:36 pm
Carroll, Braves own the Mets no matter who’s pitching
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:36 pm
Carroll
HECK YES!….TY very much.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
1:37 pm
So here is a weird, annoying thing here in Arkansas. I’ve got the directv mlb extra innings package. However, both St. Louis and Houston games are blacked out in my area. Curses!!!
There is a MLB Mix channel, however, and I can actually get the game on the Mix channel. It’s one eighth of the screen, but there it is.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
1:39 pm
Frenchy’s throw is WAY OFF LINE. Imagine my shock.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
1:40 pm
Good ABC baseball by the Astros to take a quick 1-0 lead against Jo Jo and the Braves.
Chopper2Chipper
May 3rd, 2009
1:40 pm
I wish more people went to the games. It’s really pretty sad to see so many empty seats. I live in MA and try to get to a few a year.
DidTheyCall
May 3rd, 2009
1:40 pm
Any chance we can get a platoon situation going with the manager’s spot?
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
1:41 pm
Hey….the Cubs are retiring #31….worn by both Fergie Jenkins and *Mad Dog* Greg Maddux.
WGN is having a special right now.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:42 pm
Just by giving up 1 run it shows how Jojo has improved
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
1:42 pm
Lead off double, bunt the runner to third and a sac fly scoring the runner from third. Sound fundamental baseball. From the Astros that is… 1-0 Houston.
Tony Almeida
May 3rd, 2009
1:43 pm
That’s the ball game. That’s all the runs the Astros needed to win this one. Let’s try it again tomorrow boys.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
1:44 pm
Thanks for the heads-up Frank.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:44 pm
Just to add in. Is anyone going to the July 17th game when the Braves retire Mad Dog’s number?
Jack Bauer
May 3rd, 2009
1:45 pm
Tony Almeida…I’m coming for you….
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:46 pm
The sad thing is whatever channel they show maddux’s retired number on for the braves it probably won’t be televised…sigh
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
1:46 pm
They just said that the Fillies have made four errors this year.
That’s way too many; they should only have three…
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
1:47 pm
That’s Esco’s best stroke right there…..going the other way.
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
1:47 pm
Bravos2249–
July 17th? Thanks! I was gonna be asking what day that was…there’s a possibility we’ll be going.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
1:47 pm
Anytime Steve.
:>)
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:49 pm
McFann
Yeah it was on the braves official site…it’s vs the Mets too.
bravefaninok
May 3rd, 2009
1:50 pm
So here is a weird, annoying thing here in Arkansas. I’ve got the directv mlb extra innings package. However, both St. Louis and Houston games are blacked out in my area. Curses!!!
There is a MLB Mix channel, however, and I can actually get the game on the Mix channel. It’s one eighth of the screen, but there it is.
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i’m in oklahoma,same blackout rules,cardinals(10hrs away)houston(7hrs away)&rangers(3hrs away)
I understand the rangers&maybee houston,but why am i blacked out of cardinals?
DidTheyCall
May 3rd, 2009
1:50 pm
Our season in a nutshell….the opposition gets a runner in scoring position and manufactures a run…..we get a runner in scoring position and strand him!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
1:50 pm
McFann
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20090405&content_id=4131310&vkey=pr_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl
Ayn Rand
May 3rd, 2009
1:52 pm
Does anyone realize for all the talk here about KJ’s struggles and Francoeur’s “big turn-around”; that Kelly Johnson has a higher OBP this year?
Bill in VA
May 3rd, 2009
1:53 pm
I like the lineup.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
1:56 pm
Ok got the wireless card going which should be better…they just announced a scoring change from last night. They changed the second error charged to Chipper Jones last night in the seventh inning a base hit for Berkman. It wasn’t the critical play by Chipper that led to a big inning. it was later in the game, and not a factor in the score. just FYI
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
1:56 pm
I’m moving way ahead of myself here, but if Reyes keeps pitching like he is through the summer, I’ll bet Vazquez is packaged in a trade for a bat and Hanson will take his place. I don’t know, because Vaz. has been a key to the rotation so far this year, but it’s something to think about…or not.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
1:57 pm
Book review of Carroll’s heartthrob Ron Darling’s new book, plus a review of Darryl Strawberry’s (otherwise know as the premature physical, not mental, embodiment of future Brave great Heyward) book– http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/03/books/review/Handy-t.html?ref=books
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
1:58 pm
For all the one comment that talked about Kelly Johnson having a higher OBP this year, does Ayn-e-one realize that he doesn’t?
Kelly’s current OBP is .317. His OBP last season was .349.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
1:58 pm
i’m in oklahoma,same blackout rules,cardinals(10hrs away)houston(7hrs away)&rangers(3hrs away)…I understand the rangers&maybee houston,but why am i blacked out of cardinals?
I don’t think all of mankind’s science and mathematics can figure out directv’s black out rules.
MariettaDerek
May 3rd, 2009
2:01 pm
This line-up is definitely NOT double pits to chesty.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
2:01 pm
Man, that Rodriguez is dropping us like flies!
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:01 pm
chop chop I believe he was talking about KJ’s OBP is higher than Frenchy’s
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
2:02 pm
MariettaDerek, please, KNOCK IT OFF! That “double pits” crap got old the first time you posted that sh**!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:03 pm
So Houston has given up 100 runs, which is one of the best numbers in the NL. Wandy Rodriquez looks good. The Braves hitters look like they agreed that “it’s a marathon, not a sprint” and are conserving their energy for September. I hope JoJo brings his A game and the defense plays sharply, because this looks like it might be a very low scoring game.
bravefaninok
May 3rd, 2009
2:04 pm
i use mlb.tv but the blackout rules are the same.just stupid
1063.99
May 3rd, 2009
2:05 pm
Suck it TnBrian! Who made you anything? What a punk.
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
2:07 pm
You’re right, vabravesfan. I allowed my own unholy crusade against Kelly Johnson to color my interpretation of that comment. It is true that KJ has a better OBP than Frenchy. I apologize to Ayn Rand.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
2:07 pm
Did any of you see that Nick Green was the star of ESPN’ Sports Center this morning with three hits for the Red Sox? Of course, with his baserunning skill, falling on his face between first and second, he showed he still had the heart of soul of an Atlanta Brave.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:08 pm
Good lord! What a bizarre bunt play.
Rodriquez bunts the ball off the plate. He stood there admiring the high hop as Ross catches it and throws to second. Ross just got Kepplinger at second. Infante, despite having to step over Kep, who slid in hard, throws out Rodriquez at first for the double play.
Note to self, always run them out!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:09 pm
abwright
We’ve only given up 97, we just can’t score. Same problem with them They have only given up 100, BUT they have only scored 85.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:09 pm
great play by David Ross
Rollins Tree
May 3rd, 2009
2:09 pm
Why are you guys watching the crap Braves today? Hawks are killing it!!!!
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
2:09 pm
Thanks, Bravos2249!
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:09 pm
It’s cool Chop Chop, it wasn’t the best worded argument.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:10 pm
Don Sutton just called Schafer the “back side of the line-up.” I hope that guy who was obsessing over Mike Hampton’s possible torn pants does not pick up on this comment.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:11 pm
Schafer walks to lead off the inning.
If Jo Jo bunts, I hope he runs it out!
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
2:11 pm
hm, walk by schafer to lead off an inning….ooh aahh.
almost bought the darling book the other day. shoulda
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:11 pm
McFann
Your welcome
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
2:12 pm
Regardless of what happens today, this is my favorite lineup this week.
That clearly hit Jo Jo. Boo is right.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:13 pm
Reyes gets hit on the right hand trying to pull the bunt back. Umpire calls it a strike. Booo! Hisss! Should be first and second with no one out.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
2:13 pm
106.., nobody made me sh**! I’m just saying that the catch phrase just ain’t cool or funny. Do what you want, but I can’t remember anybody bashing you for posting it 20 times a day.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:14 pm
I really wish other umpires could consult on plays at the plate…cause there’s no way the 2nd base ump didn’t see that hit Jojo.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:14 pm
Reyes runs to first on the 3-1 count. He thought the ball that hit him in the hand was a ball.
This has been a really bizarre inning for the pitchers at the plate.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:14 pm
Reyes strikes out.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:14 pm
not consult but over rule others
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
2:15 pm
TnBrian
I agree. It’s gotten old REAL QUICK!!
Interested Observer
May 3rd, 2009
2:15 pm
If I was Jo Jo, I would have turned to umpire and said “Give me a minute..My f’ing BAT hurts!”
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
Escobar singles between 3rd and ss. First and second with one out.
Chipper at the plate.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
Oops!
Infante singled, Escobar at the plate.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
that hurts now after infante single but hopefully Yunel and Chip will make it happen here
bravefaninok
May 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
I was Jo Jo, I would have turned to umpire and said “Give me a minute..My f’ing BAT hurts!”
hahahahahaa…nice!
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
Soo…the missed call costs us a run. Ugh.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
hope Jo Jo is ok
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
The GIDP machine, Yunel Escobar, grounds into a 6-4-3 DP to end the inning.
If Reyes had been given first on the HBP, Infante’s single would almost certainly scored Schafer. Instead, another threat snuffed out.
Ayn Rand
May 3rd, 2009
2:18 pm
Escobar is a double plays machine.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:18 pm
anybody know which one of JoJo’s hands got hit?
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
2:19 pm
Again, the failure to execute a bunt hurts the Braves.
Mike
May 3rd, 2009
2:19 pm
This team should be playing in single -A ball because they don’t know how to hit with guys on base!!! Seriously this team is so pathetic! I am getting so sick of watching this GARBAGE team!!!!!!!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:19 pm
Schafer makes a nice play on a fly ball by Bourn.
Interested Observer
May 3rd, 2009
2:20 pm
It was Jo Jo’s bottom hand on the bunt attempt, which would be the right.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:20 pm
Berkman grounds out to Escobar.
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:20 pm
Right hand, vabravesfan. Not to worry…
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
2:20 pm
jojos right got hit
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm
vabravesfan
his right hand
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm
Jo-Jo just looks outstanding. Throwing strikes, not trying to overpower guys.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm
Lee grounds to Escobar. 3 outs. Reyes looks sharp. Let’s get him some runs!
Chipper could hit a rally-killing lead-off homer and I wouldn’t complain.
Mike
May 3rd, 2009
2:22 pm
I would rather watch my own crap than this crap of a team!!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:23 pm
mike
no one is making you sit here for 3 hours and watch this
Tom Glavine and Tommy Hanson
May 3rd, 2009
2:23 pm
Please get lit up, please get lit up, please get lit up Jo-Jo….
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:23 pm
Thanks…JoJo seems like a different pitcher when pitching to contact
Mike
May 3rd, 2009
2:24 pm
Its just called a love for this team and frustration!
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
2:26 pm
nice, Mike. thanks for that imagery there.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
2:26 pm
Does Jo-Jo have a right to sue for lack of support?
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
Fail.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
Chipper grounds out to third.
Frenchy “fists” a hit over the SS.
Prado lines to left field. Frenchy waved. OUT at the plate!
Prado to second.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
Frenchy is just too damn slow.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
wow braves are making this run-scoring bit look really hard at the moment.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
ouch!!!!
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
WOW, that’s our luck, huh?
Tony Almeida
May 3rd, 2009
2:28 pm
FIRE SNITKER….dumba$$
Bill in VA
May 3rd, 2009
2:28 pm
Frank & TnBrian
Agree, it’s gotten too old!! Grow up, 106, etc.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:28 pm
Diaz gets hit by the pitch (on the side, not on the hand so that the ump can call it a foul ball) on an 0-2 count.
Ross at the plate. 1st and 2nd. 2 outs.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
2:28 pm
Snitker and Jeff blow another one.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
2:28 pm
Francouer has got to be able to score from 1st on a double. He looked like her wasn’t expecting to be waved around.
Andy K.
May 3rd, 2009
2:29 pm
Mark Kotsay is facing the G-Braves today…he’s rehabbing with Pawtucket.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:29 pm
Prado with an excellent slide!
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
2:29 pm
let’s gooo!!!
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
2:29 pm
Holy crap, the Braves got their one run for the day!
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:30 pm
I know the blog loves small ball, bunts, stolen bases, hit and runs, double steals, triple steals, hit and runs, stealing home, and of course intentionally getting hit in the head to get on base (as some suggested Diaz should’ve done the other night)…. and I respect all those opinions.
Sure would love to see a couple of 3-run homers though. This team could use ‘em.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:30 pm
Ross hits to center. Drops in front of Bourn.
Prado chugs around thrid. Ball goes through to the plate, Prado slides in JUST ahead of the tag. Tie game.
1st and 2nd. 2 outs. Schafer at the plate.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:30 pm
not anymore andy, he got 2 AB’s in and is done for the day. Quite the pitching battle down there though between buchholz and morton
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
2:30 pm
Prado the great, knows how to slide
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
2:31 pm
Key AB of this inning?
Diaz getting hit. He was down 0-2.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
2:31 pm
nice wide slide to the avoid the tag Prado.
a little tidbit: Rodriguez came into the game with a 1.69 ERA through his first five starts. It’s the lowest ERA through an Astros’ pitcher’s first five starts of the season since Roger Clemens was 1.03 through five in 2005.
TPM
May 3rd, 2009
2:31 pm
VABravesfasn- Casey Kotchman has no homeruns and just 4 runs batted in. If you think that is sufficient production out of the 1st base position then you know a lot more about basebal than me. He has also not won a gold glove in his career
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:32 pm
Snitker’s fault? It takes a perfect relay to get him…gotta send him.
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:32 pm
Snitker was right to send Jeff. Perfect play by the defense. Tough luck, good baseball.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:34 pm
mbatl, 2:30 pm Sure would love to see a couple of 3-run homers though. This team could use ‘em.
Didn’t the Braves get a 2 run homer in the win on Friday?
I agree that I would love to see more HRs. But, you cannot expect them every night.
Schafer strikes out to end the inning.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:35 pm
TPM, it is early. Check back at the end of the year for his stats. I said caliber, check all his stats and his career .997 fielding percentage.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:36 pm
Tejada pops to shallow center on a 2-0 count. 1 out.
Rolfe
May 3rd, 2009
2:36 pm
“Sure would love to see a couple of 3-run homers though. This team could use ‘em.”
If we would get Richie Sexson, he would hit a bunch of three-run homers.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
2:37 pm
Sure would love to see a couple of 3-run homers though
And how many of those have the Braves hit this season? Just because a team steals doesn’t mean it’s playing “small ball”. You can also steal with the intention of not giving up an out to move a runner which makes sense if you can’t execute a bunt!
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:37 pm
abwright, yeah, I know. Was being a little facetious. But… 9 HR in our last 18 games – half a HR a game is tough way to win in the major leagues.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:38 pm
Did Schafer just get hit in the chops?
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:38 pm
Schafer dives on a dying quail in right center. Misses it and Pence stretches it to a double.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm
Morton through 5. 2h 1er 9K 72 pitches but no help offensively. Sound familiar? Gwinnett down 1-0
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm
Ah, the replay says otherwise.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm
With all due respect to DOB
Aside from 1st basemen such as Bream, (Mark Grace is another that comes to mind) who wasn’t the proto-typical 1st basemen who could hit for average, power, drive in runs, etc…..1st base is usually a power position. (McGwire, Frank Thomas in his earlier days with the W. Sox, Big Cat, McGriff, Don Mattingly, Wil Clark….just to name a few)
The Braves need power (HR’s) out of first base, IMO to bring more offense to the club.
Jake
May 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm
Anybody else unimpressed with Schafer’s defense early on?
mini-me
May 3rd, 2009
2:39 pm
i love small ball.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm
Wow! JoJo strikes out Rodriquez on a pitch right on the outside corner at the bottom of the strike zone. (K-zone would probably call it a ball, but it was close). 2 outs.
JoJo intentionally walks Keppinger to get to the pitcher. 1st and 2nd. 2 outs.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm
Jake — Schafer gets to many balls our other outfielders could only dream about. Plus his arm is pretty good too.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm
Anybody else unimpressed with Schafer’s defense early on?
No.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
2:42 pm
LMAO Rodney Derrick, he was stealing 2nd when he fell. So yeah…he learned from the best.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:42 pm
I couldn’t help but notice this crazy stat. The Tampa Rays have now stolen 33 out of 39 bases. That’s a success rate of .846
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:42 pm
Wait a minute….Hampton willingly gave up a homer to Aumus just so Ausmus could hit one in his last game with Houston? In it or not that’s kinda shady.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:43 pm
JoJo strikes out Rodriquez swinging (last two strikes were way out of the zone). Middle of the fifth. Tie game.
indict the crook
May 3rd, 2009
2:44 pm
Mike Hampton is a fraud.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm
Hard rain just started here. We had the mostly sunny skies atlanta is experiencing right now up until about an hour ago, was just cloudy until now. And as I typed that it’s like someone turned that faucet off, the rain stopped as fast as it started. Weird.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm
If Glavine comes back and knocks Reyes out of the rotation, what a shame that’ll be. Young lefty that seems to have finally found himself in the bigs and he just has to be in this rotation.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm
mbatl abwright, yeah, I know. Was being a little facetious. But… 9 HR in our last 18 games – half a HR a game is tough way to win in the major leagues.
I dig. But, other than Diaz and KJ, the batting averages up and down the line-up are pretty good.
I actually can’t figure out, other than poor base-running, why the Braves are struggling so badly to score runs. I guess that HRs would neutralize the Braves bad base running and the good defense that other teams are playing against them.
It does seem that, when the ball is put into play, bad things happen.
BTW, JoJo works a walk this time.
Jo Jo Reyes is a big tub of goo
May 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm
And soon will go the way of Blaine Boyer.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
JoJo with a walk. I smell a rally here.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
Maybe Omar Infante can hold a bunting class for the team.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
Infante pushes a bunt towards first base past the pitch. Berkman cannot field in time. Infante on first. JoJo to second.
The GIDP Machine is up.
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
Scrolling down some stats, I just noticed that GIDP Escobar is hitting .368 with runners on, compared to .195 with nobody on base (entering today).
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
I must admit that Infante has been very impressive so far this year. It’s great to have both he and Prado on the bench, both pinch-hitting and spot starting. Really rounds out our club.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm
here it comes. 2 on none out. Please no DP escobar
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm
TnBrian
What difference does that make when the guy’s aren’t scoring any runs?
(Lol)
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm
Infante lays down the perfect bunt, I love it.
Omar Infante is a ballplayer
May 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm
Get rid of Kelly Johnson.
YES. YOU HEARD ME.
GET RID OF KJ DO IT NOW
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
Escobar bunts in front of the plate. Pitcher fields. Escobar almost beats it out (take that Rodriquez). 2nd and 3rd, 1 out.
Chipper at the plate and gets the intentional walk.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
I’d say the small ball is improving at the moment….
cricket
May 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
I never cared much for this commenting team but now I have lost all respect for these two weasels after listening to their steroids comments. Not even steroid company spokespersons could do a better job. Hooray for the mute button.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
Frenchy to the plate.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
I am glad they are walking Chipper, Francoeur is hotter
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm
Frenchy with bases loaded. Come on
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm
Frenchy gets to bat with with the bases choke full. Here we go !
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm
You know it’s not JUST the fact we have no real number 4 hitter…it’s the fact that Chipper hit like frickin .350 last year is why if teams don’t HAVE to pitch to him they won’t. If we still had Tex they’d still be walking Chipper.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm
Matt LaPorta gets his first big-league start today against Justin Verlander, who looks like he’s got his best stuff today. Welcome to the bigs, kid.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
2:50 pm
There goes Bobby again. Having Yunel bunt almost always means Chipper does not get to hit
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
hey we need help
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
That sacrifice bunt makes more sense now with Francouer hitting behind Chipper. Let’s see how it works out…
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
Rodriquez balks in a run on a 1-2 count!
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
C’mon Jeff, hit it hard somewhere buddy!
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
Nothing like a little balk action to bring ‘em in, eh.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
Omar needs to be the every day leadoff hitter. I know some will disagree and call him a bench player but they need to stick with him for the time being and see how he handles an every day role. The reason the beloved Josh Anderson isn’t here is because Schafer beat him out of the job. So why can’t Infante beat out KJ for his job? Because he’s definitely beat him out thus far. I like Kelly well enough and all but baseball is a business, not a personality contest, and the team is doing itself and it’s fans a disservice if they don’t put the best players that they have on the field. It just doesn’t make sense.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
Is it just me, or does Joe Simpson have a hardon for Omar Infante? Ever since the first game he played for the Braves in 2008 he’s been weirdly gushing over him in his bedroom voice.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
We should release Garret Anderson. How the hell can he refuse a rehab assignment. What an ass
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
2:52 pm
Good at bat Francoeur
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
2:52 pm
oh, I left out “get balked in” in my earlier post!
unbelievable. But I’ll take it.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
2:52 pm
Omar Infante is a ballplayer
Is that you, Joe? Can you tell your man to hit something besides singles?
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Excellent post, Run Heap Run.
wenga
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Another gift for the Braves.
They only seem to be able to score on balks, walks, or passed ball/wild pitches.
What a bunch of losers.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Rodney Derrick There goes Bobby again. Having Yunel bunt almost always means Chipper does not get to hit
It also means that Yunel cannot GIDP. He’s been really bad about that lately.
Frenchy hits a fly to center. Infante scores on the sac fly.
Wow! That balk probably cost the Astros 2 runs, since JoJo might not have been sent on that sac fly (not that deep).
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Finally some ABC by the Braves.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Difficult to make timely comments when watching on the computer. Always a couple of minutes late. Such is Braves watching from Durham.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:53 pm
Good job from the whole team in this inning. Sound, solid fundamental baseball.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:54 pm
Boo
I’d rather have Omar hitting singles than KJ walking back to the dugout.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
2:54 pm
Boo – Joe “knows” talent. He has an uncanny sixth sense for it.
stynes
May 3rd, 2009
2:56 pm
Carroll – do you make anything of Bowman’s report that GA declined the request to make a rehab start? Someone the other day – maybe Bowman – reported that some thought GA didn’t really want to be here. To me decling the rehab request – especially given that he missed most of ST and hasn’t played much this season – could certainly make it seem that way. Thoughts? Thanks!
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:56 pm
3-1 Braves, we just need for the pitching to hold up.
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
2:56 pm
Braves 2009 Mantra:
“Walks and balks, and leave it to Cox.”
Whether that’s a good or a bad thing remains to be seen.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
2:57 pm
Stynes, the story is front and center at the braves/mlb home page. Garrett Anderson did decline to go on a rehab assignment.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
2:57 pm
Heyward and Freeman back in the Myrtle Beach lineup. Erik Cordier fills out the triage trio on the hill.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
2:58 pm
From what I seen of Gregor Blanco in the WBC….HE should be the everyday lead-off hitter.
He can freckin’ fly.
ncscoots
May 3rd, 2009
2:58 pm
Boo – Joe “knows” talent. He has an uncanny sixth sense for it.
Too bad his other five senses don’t seem to help him too much in the cause.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
2:59 pm
It’s the 6th already…dang
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
2:59 pm
Run Heap Run, you’re making too much sense re: Omar.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:00 pm
No offense, but Infante is NOT going to hit .375 or put up no .400 OBP is 500 at-bats.
I’d keep him somewhere until he inevitably cools off, but his BABIP says his pace ain’t sustainable.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:00 pm
Frank, granted he looked good in WBC but he hasn’t looked good in Gwinnett batting .230
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm
We should release Garret Anderson. How the hell can he refuse a rehab assignment. What an ass
And how many times has Chipper gone down to rehab after one of his stints on the DL? It is not an uncommon thing to see from veterans.
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm
I think Jojo i so surprised by the run support that he has forgotten how to pitch.
stynes
May 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm
Thanks Coach – wasn’t trying to make it seem like I was “questioning” the accuracy of the report. I was just curious if anyone else read anything into it the way I did after hearing the report a couple of days ago that some felt he didn’t want to be playing for the Braves.
Given those events, if I’m FW or BC – and certainly I’m not and for a very good reason
– I’d sit down and have a real heart to heart with GA. But that’s just me. I was curious to hear what others thought.
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm
Hes leaving the ball up this inning. Braves always have to give it back.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:02 pm
Jo-Jo can’t sue now
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
3:03 pm
To start, I have always been a big Reyes fan (as I am with most Braves prospects). I find it comical that after one start, the blog was ready to deem him the next Blaine Boyer. Now, after 5 innings, some are already talking about him blocking Glavine and Hanson.
Talk about living in the moment.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:03 pm
Joe “knows” talent.
Want a laugh? Look up Joe Simpson’s career stats and laugh next time he talks about what a hitter needs to do to produce.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:04 pm
Omar did fine last year with only 300 ab….maybe not start him full time but every now and then…a little platoon wouldn’t hurt.
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
3:04 pm
The Braves should never have signed GA anyway…I don’t normally bash Bobby, and I think he is a GREAT manager, but he does get carried away with wanting that “veteran” presence. GA is washed up, has no fire, and you can completely tell he doesn’t want to be in the ATL. I know some will have gnashing of team at this suggestion, but I think he should be released. Yup, that’s right. Dump him. Eat the 2.5 million. About the worst 2.5 million this org has spent this side of Hampton.
JR
May 3rd, 2009
3:04 pm
Ah..There is that usual Jo-Jo Implosion
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
3:05 pm
Hey, at least Bobby Cox yanked the starting pitcher before we’re losing the game this time!
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:05 pm
well its over, Jeff Bennett coming in after Reyes breaks down immediatly after being given a lead.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:05 pm
O boy, speaking of the pitching.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:05 pm
ughh get him one more hitter bobby. He has dominated ivan today. No win for jojo again.
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
3:06 pm
Stat #1: The Braves are tied for 6th in the Majors, with 97 Runs Against on the season. That is a good thing.
Stat #2: The Braves are tied for 5th in the Majors for fewest Runs Scored, with 93. That is a bad thing.
That about sums it up, doesn’t it? Pitching’s great, offense isn’t.
Conclusion: this team needs to learn how to play small ball and execute on the fundamentals if they’re going to stay/be relevant because their pitching’ll keep them in games, but it can’t win it for them. Today’s a great example. You execute on the bunts and hit the sacrifice flies, and all of a sudden you’re up 3-1 with your fifth starter pitching extremely well…and as I say that, Reyes implodes. Ugh.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:06 pm
Well Jojo did have to run the bases, that could have something to do with his troubles this inning.
Mark
May 3rd, 2009
3:06 pm
Get him a 2 run lead and he pulls out the typical Jo-Jo choke job…Can we at some point come to the realization that this guy doesn’t have it and never will? He’s been nothing but an inconsistent choke artist from the start. Can we please give up on him?
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:07 pm
o and did i mention that this all happened against the Astros
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
3:07 pm
Boo – You’re a young feller huh? There’s an age-old saying…“The best coaches are not always the best players”. Look it up.
Jo Jo Reyes is a big tub of goo
May 3rd, 2009
3:07 pm
Ran out of gas – must have not eaten enough twinkies for breakfast.
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:08 pm
Prediction: Jeff Bennett allows all three inherited runners to score, then quickly escapes the inning to save his own era
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
3:08 pm
Anderson had the choice not to go on a rehab assignment and he chose not to. It wouldn’t have been hard for him to get up to Gwinnett – that, if anything, is the surprising part to me. Otherwise, I don’t know that it’s such a huge deal for him. He didn’t refuse, he was given a choice and chose no.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:08 pm
Gamecast didn’t have that as a deep fly
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:09 pm
Mark
You are an idiot.
Jonathan
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:09 pm
vabravesfan re: your 3:00
OUCH!!
Lol
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
3:09 pm
Good pitching by Bennett.
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
3:09 pm
Leave it to Jeff Bennett to let the inherited runner score. If they gave out an award for that, he’d win it going away. Call it the “Deceptively Low ERA” award.
Mark
May 3rd, 2009
3:09 pm
Boo, Infante is the current flavor-of-the-week. Stick around, he’ll eventually put up two 0-4 games in a row and everyone here will hate him. Such is the case with the bandfwagon fans here, their opinions on any hitter not named Chipper literally change after each at-bat.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:10 pm
Vabraves fan
Diaz had to make a sliding catch so he couldn’t throw him out.
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
3:10 pm
Not funny the way that Bennett uses to lower his ERA
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
3:10 pm
“Gamecast didn’t have that as a deep fly”
No, but sort of a sliding catch by Diaz. Throw was okay (cut off, as it should’ve been). No real hope of getting the runner.
StingerSplash
May 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm
Will the real Jo-Jo Reyes please stand up?
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm
O okay now it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm
Bennett did his job. 4-3 Astros.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm
Jo Jo pitched well. Everyone has a bad inning from time to time. A bunt hit, Francoeur should have caught Berkman’s ball in my opinion. Nobody jumped on Vazquez when he gave up 4 in a inning earlier this week.
JayDubu
May 3rd, 2009
3:11 pm
the radio anouncers just said that Cox brings Bennett in because he has a good sinker to produce a ground ball, and Bennet gives up a sac fly. Has he ever come in with runners on, and held them scoreless?
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:12 pm
well this is frustrating
Chipper is a stiff
May 3rd, 2009
3:12 pm
He’s done! Washed up! Got no game left! No power anymore!
GET RID OF HIM NOW!
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:12 pm
Umm…JoJo has kept us in this ballgame. That’s all you can really ask from a 5th starter. He didn’t really pitch all that badly today, either.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:13 pm
And it’s really hard to get all over a guy for limiting a bases-loaded inning to one run when brought in. Jeez…Bennett did his job.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:13 pm
better get him in
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:14 pm
Mark
Almost any team in the majors would take what Jo-Jo’s done this year. He pitched 5 and 2/3 and gave us a chance to win the game. That’s all you can ask of a 5th starter.
StingerSplash
May 3rd, 2009
3:14 pm
I’m beginning to get the impression that, aside from Chipper, McCann, maybe Frenchy and Lowe, JJ, Gonzo and Vazquez, this is a team of spare parts.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:14 pm
that a boy matty loving the new found speed
Jo Jo Reyes was lights out
May 3rd, 2009
3:14 pm
4 earned runs in 5.1 innings. Now that’s what I call pitching well.
Keep that up and he may lose 20 games.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:15 pm
Don’t look now, but Charlie Morton has been brilliant today for Gwinnett…7IP, 2H, 1ER, 2BB, 10K.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:15 pm
steve from OH
sorry for copying your post… lol. Guess reasonable minds think alike.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:16 pm
Paint a picture of the guy at third … he should still be there at the end of the inning.
NYCBrave
May 3rd, 2009
3:16 pm
What a frustrating start for Jo Jo. He is now in line for the loss.
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
3:16 pm
PUT THE BALL IN PLAY SCHAFER!
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:16 pm
Steve, I have been watching that online. Too bad he is still losing the game
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:17 pm
Steve
Just like Jojo was/is whatever you folks what to call it, as long as he can do that down the road in the ATL it’s all good.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:19 pm
This team is SO blowing that leadoff Diaz triple.
Jo Jo Reyes is invaluable
May 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm
What wouldn’t you pay for a 5+ ERA?
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm
JOJO is solid until the 6th!!!!! Lose a chuck James, gain a chuck James.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm
Wayne
With all due respect….I’m one that NEVER has been a fan of Mr. Reyes.
I’ve thought the same about him as I did Mr. Boyer….in that the Braves need to ship his *** out.
The Braves finally woke up about Boyer…..can they finally get smart about JoJo?
Time will tell.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm
come on norton pick the guys up
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
3:20 pm
Homerun in Philly ruined Schafer. Big time! I knew it.
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
Like I was saying about fundamentals…
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
Why is it when we get a guy on 3rd with 0 outs that we can’t even make contact to get a run with an out.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
We’re all over the ABC baseball. How sad.
LuisG
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
Is it over? Runner stranded at third?
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
Thumbs up to Jo-Jo. No HR, no really hard hit balls. Some tough luck (though the runs were all legit). He needs to learn to stay in the game better, but I’ll take him at the back end of the rotation.
How far up the Phillies and Mets rotations do you have to to find anyone who’s been better? (Answer, each team has ONE starter with an era better than Reyes’).
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:21 pm
Norton with a HIT!
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Norton bailed Ross and Schafer’s FAIL out.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
HUGE
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Great time to bust that slump, Norty!
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Thank you, Mr. Norton.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Clutch hit!!
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
For good teams, a leadoff triple has to score 75% of the time!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Woo-hoo, Greg Norton. Way to pick up the team. Drives the runner in from third with 2 outs.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
….and my man Norton comes through, like an old vet does.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Norton bails them out with that single to tie it. And it was his second hit in 16 at-bats this season.
DirtyYuni
May 3rd, 2009
3:22 pm
Hahaha. I like “Norty.”
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
3:23 pm
If I were Cecil Cooper, I’d punch Wright right square in the jaw.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:23 pm
F’n Amstel Lite commercial
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
3:23 pm
Does there have to be 2 out before the Braves feel comfortable scoring?
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:23 pm
OMG , Norton does his job. 4-4 and all tied up. Battle of the bullpens now.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:23 pm
mbatl
That’s what we really have to look at. Yes Jojo still gave up 4 but nothing really hard hit and no homers. And he pitched the same as last time. He just kept getting singles hit off him and Bobby wanted to pull him so he would not lose confidence over it.
Jo Jo Reyes is living large
May 3rd, 2009
3:24 pm
As big as his appetite! Now he’ll have to put more notches in his belt.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:24 pm
I complain and then Norton comes through in the clutch.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:25 pm
Gwinnett – bases loaded 1 out and they ground into double play. Morton pulled. Still losing 1-0
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:25 pm
Seriously, I want NOTHING to do with Amsterdam and their beer because of that ONE (get a new one!) obnoxious television commercial.
Happy Mothers Day
May 3rd, 2009
3:25 pm
to the women of Atlanta from Chipper Jones. He’d like to make mothers out of most of you.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
3:25 pm
Anyone else having trouble with MLB’s compucast?
Jo Jo Reyes smells like...
May 3rd, 2009
3:26 pm
…Amsterdam.
P-TnJeff04 (MFinBrian321-Brave)
May 3rd, 2009
3:27 pm
P-Town Brave(TN Jeff can SUCK IT!) (2:13 am): “<—— My thoughts exactly!”
I see you’ve been reduced to citing yourself.
Sure sell nobody else is gonna.
Mark
May 3rd, 2009
3:27 pm
Got a bunch of you still drinking the ‘Jo-Jo’ has a ton of potential kool-aid. I’ve had it with inconsistency on this team. The last thing the braves need is another guy who could come out and dazzle on month or be absolute garbage another. (See Kelly Johnson, Yunel Escobar, Charlie Morton, etc.) Trade these guys while they still have some value, bring up the talent (see Hanson), and go get some guys who can consistently produce. 7-12 one week and 4-39 the next 2 isn’t winning ballgames for this team as we have seen for the past 3 years. The braves spent 14 years on top because they were a model of consistency and for the past 3 they have been anything but that.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
3:28 pm
Lookin’ forward to a good golf finish after the Braves w.
Garret Anderson's spokesperson
May 3rd, 2009
3:28 pm
Garret had the choice of watchinng today’s game but he decided that the Hawks/Heat game would be more entertaining. It was a choice!
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
3:29 pm
Proud to see the Hawks not being the latest Atlanta team to choke in the 1st round.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:30 pm
Boo
A harlious commercial that’s going right now……..is the Burger King one where the girl comes along and gives this guy sitting on the park bench her phone # and then gets in her car and as if to say..”Call me”…..and then he opens up the piece of paper and the last part of her number has been messed up and is unreadable.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:32 pm
Gwinnett – bases loaded 1 out and they ground into double play. Morton pulled. Still losing 1-0
Sounds an awful lot like what happens at Turner Field. Perhaps they should trade a pitcher and starting position player and replace the position player with one who can hit. 1B or LF come to mind.
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:32 pm
lead off walks kill us
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:32 pm
I’m glad Bobby Cox made the right decision and put Schafer back at the bottom of the order where he belongs:)
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:33 pm
Moylan walks the lead off man. Runner bunted over to second by Masui. One out. Man on second.
Justice David Souter
May 3rd, 2009
3:33 pm
I applaud Garret Anderson. He is a staunch defender of a left-fielder’s RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
Garret Anderson is a true American.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:34 pm
the leadoff spot is tooo big for schafer he cant handle it
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
3:34 pm
The MLB computer option is much better this year, but there are always times when picture and sound stalls. However, it is hard to say whether this is fault of MLB or quality of broadband. Game always finishes at least a couple of minutes later than real time.
Boo
May 3rd, 2009
3:34 pm
Frank: when I first started reading your comment, I thought you were going to mention that cringe-inducing “square butts” Burger King commercial.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:35 pm
Base hit up the middle. Lead off walk comes in to score. 5-4 Astros.
Efrim
May 3rd, 2009
3:35 pm
Just trade Johnson and get it over with. A platoon at second? I understand he wants to get Infante’s hot bat in there, but give him a spot start in left field. Doesn’t make any sense to me. Kelly Johnson is not on this team next year. That I am certain of. Hell, he may not be on this team by July 31st. Wouldn’t suprise me at all. Why not sit Yunel once and a while?
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
3:35 pm
I like Moylan but this is classic GIVE IT UP BOY action.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 3rd, 2009
3:35 pm
Good grief………….
zephyr 8
May 3rd, 2009
3:35 pm
ABC again from Houston.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:36 pm
everytime we come back, we give it back up. Come on boys
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:36 pm
Boo
Oh god no….(Lmao)
JR
May 3rd, 2009
3:36 pm
Nothing like good walks
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
3:37 pm
Seriously, this team sucks.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:37 pm
Stolen base on a pitch out. Ross dropped the ball on the transfer.
Now they’re intentionally walking Berkman.
This team is looking more and more like a team from the 80s every day.
Get rid of Kelly Johnson
May 3rd, 2009
3:37 pm
We should have kept Nick Green!
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:37 pm
someone tell me why a guy hitting .174 gets an intentionall walk
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:38 pm
Bourn steals third. Takes it without a throw. Pitiful.
Brad Penney is a fat tub of goo
May 3rd, 2009
3:38 pm
Glad we didn’t get that loser.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:38 pm
Efrim- you should see if you can get a job with the Braves u would be a great coach
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:38 pm
Sac fly gets the runner in.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
3:38 pm
See how easy ABC baseball is…LEARN
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
3:39 pm
“someone tell me why a guy hitting .174 gets an intentionall walk”
To set up a possible double play.
Dumbfound
May 3rd, 2009
3:39 pm
Mother F@#!kers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All the BRAVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sage Advice
May 3rd, 2009
3:39 pm
Yo Braves, when you take the lead and/or tie the game, how ’bout not blowing it the very next inning???
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:39 pm
Um…we are a team like Houston but we don’t steal apparently
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:40 pm
That is what speed can do for a team. Must be nice
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:40 pm
abwright- maybe he should have thrown it… into center field
Carroll Rogers job is a soul-numbing task
May 3rd, 2009
3:40 pm
Chronicalling the exploits of losers and goo-boys.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
3:41 pm
Rodney Derrick
Today, when there’s any kind of break (between innings, change pitcher etc.), it stays on break. I have to cancel it and then log in all over again. I keep missing parts of innings. If the inning is short enough, it could be back to break again. Fortunately, I have satellite radio, so I’m not missing the action. To sum it up, MLB compucast SUCKS (thanks for teaching me that, McFann)
1995
May 3rd, 2009
3:41 pm
You guys can post all you want but until Bobby is gone its going to be this year after year. Not fair to the fans or organization that one man (very old washed up man) is holding the Braves back from moving forward.
i cant take it anymore
May 3rd, 2009
3:41 pm
nice inning. Time to go cut grass
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
3:42 pm
See, stealing bases is not necessarily “small ball”. Put pressure on the defense and good things will happen.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:42 pm
against Carlos Lee, a flyball hitter with Moylan not pitching too well
Vern
May 3rd, 2009
3:42 pm
Maybe Tim Lincecum’s dad can take Jo Jo Reyes to his back yard and teach him how to pitch.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:42 pm
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot, 3:40 pm, “abwright- maybe he should have thrown it… into center field”
No. Moylan should have held the runner on second, so that he didn’t get such a lead that he could take third without a throw.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:42 pm
More sound fundamental baseball from the Astros. 6-4 Houston.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:43 pm
Chopper up the middle. Moylan neither catches the ball nor lets it go. 1st and 2nd, 2 out.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:43 pm
Is there any reason why there is NOBODY warming up in our BP?
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:44 pm
abwright- well should call the Braves and give them ur input I’m sure they will care what you think.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
3:44 pm
Is there any reason why there is NOBODY warming up in our BP?
Cox already conceded the game.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
3:44 pm
Morton takes that loss for Gwinnett
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:45 pm
SSSSSHHHH , Steve in Ohio doesn’t understand speed, stolen bases, bunts. sac flies.
ABC baseball is beyond his understanding.
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
3:45 pm
“No. Moylan should have held the runner on second, so that he didn’t get such a lead that he could take third without a throw.”
Didn’t we have a pitchout on? A runner going to 3rd is almost dead to rights on that play… if the catcher doesn’t drop the ball.
Send Peter Moylan back to the outback
May 3rd, 2009
3:45 pm
Dude is giving up an earned run per inning!
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:45 pm
can we call up Medlen and Morton for our pen. We need Strikeout guys besides Soriano and Gonzalez
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:45 pm
Moylan strikes out Pence to end the inning.
Escobar, Jones, Francoeur up in the bottom of the seventh.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm
braves pitch out and still can’t throw the runner out stealing second – is there any fundamental that this team does well?
This team has a will to lose and lose they will
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm
More sound fundamental baseball from the Astros. 6-4 Houston.
There’s a big difference in “gifts” and “fundamental baseball”. Moylan was in a generous, gift giving mood today.
NotForMe
May 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm
I’m so glad that we ran into the Astros when our resident geniuses assured us that they were having more trouble than the Braves scoring runs. Might have been embarrassing otherwise.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm
And logic is beyond yours, Coach. But it’s ok. We’ll see how the Astros’ ABC baseball strategy pays off this season…
Pretty doggone easy to steal when Moylan is daydreaming on the mound…
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:47 pm
mbatl The pitch out was on Bourn’s steal of second. After the intentional walk to Berkman, Bourn stole third uncontested, I think on the first pitch after the IBB.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
Half of this room in here everyday bashing the braves and how they play…. Any team is not gonna win everyday all the time… But I understand this is a blog. And people can say what they wanna. Some people are not true fans…. A true fan is with their team all the time win and lose,
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
This once again reminds of last year … get the pitching, can’t get the runs … get some runs, can’t get the pitching
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
Yunel starts the seventh with a hit to right field.
Chipper at the plate.
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
abwright, your’re right… my bad…
Hey, on Moylan, the guy has been very good since his first two outings. He still doesn’t have his command back completely. Plus, sometimes pitchers give up runs. Sorry to make excuses, but I think he’ll be okay. Just need a 3-run homer and all will be fine!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
Chipper follows with a line drive to right field.
1st and 2nd, no one out. Frenchy at the plate.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:51 pm
Ya know, with all the injuries to Chipper (early), Anderson, and with McCann’s vision problem…..makes me think of Lou Brown from Major League 2 right before he had the heart attack in the lockeroom.
“It’s either a leg thing, or a spiratural thing,………”
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
3:51 pm
Hey Steve, they’re winning. Get a damn clue.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:52 pm
Frenchy flies out to center. No movement on the part of the statues at 1st and 2nd.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
3:52 pm
Tom O’Hawke– I have not had the problem you describe since the first few days of the season. I know how difficult it is to contact them on phone or email, but give it a try fairly early in the daytime, like tomorrow morning. Also, your broadband connection might well be weak. That has been a problem for me in the past, when DSL modem had issues, or signals from Verizon had problems
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
3:52 pm
I think Jo Jo pitched in tough luck today
Braves fanatic
May 3rd, 2009
3:52 pm
“A true fan is with their team all the time win and lose,”
And “true fans” are wackos with no lives
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:53 pm
They’re 10-14, dude.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
Prado strikes out swinging. The statues at first and second continue to acquire pigeon droppings.
Diaz (of the .223 average) at the plate.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
Yeah and most of yall have no lives either……….
Bobby Cox's Brain
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
Maybe I should have used Kotchman instead of Prado there….
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
Of course, right after I wrote that about improved quality on computer transmission, it stalled for a couple of minutes.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
MATTY!
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
3:54 pm
And “true fans” are wackos with no lives
Wouldn’t that make them dead?
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
3:55 pm
Good for Matt Diaz. Glad to see him having a good day.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:55 pm
Diaz hits a line drive to left. Berkman slips in the outfield. Escobar scores. Chipper to third.
Kotchman to pinch hit for Ross. I guess Sammons will come on in the eighth.
We need a balk or something!
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
3:56 pm
Braves fanatic
I’d like to add to your post…if I may.
With all the gripping, b&^%hing that goes on….it could be worse. How’d ya all like it if we were Pirates fans? They’ve been worthless since 92. SO I think we have it better than some fans…albeit not good, but better than some.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
3:56 pm
That 1 out to 2 out hitting with RISP has to do with guys trying to do too much with less than two outs…like hitting a HR. That’s what I think and oh yeah, we need Mac’s butt in that lineup ASAP!!
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the clubhouse
May 3rd, 2009
3:56 pm
I have a great life, thanks.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
3:57 pm
Are you two having trouble with MLB Video using Nexdef? I have it turned off and haven’t really had any problems at all today.
That said, last year Nexdef was much better.. So, even though the quality isn’t as good with only 4 bars.. Its usually reliable.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:57 pm
Yeah me also!
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:57 pm
Full count to Kotchman. “Logan” Schafer on deck.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:58 pm
lets see what schafer can do
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:58 pm
What, Ross can’t hit right-handers? Phooey.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
3:58 pm
Be patient Schafe!
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
Meanwhile, Kotchman’s avg against righties is lower than his overall avg.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
he is 0-2 today
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
By the way did anyone see Miguel Olivio steal home last night…lol
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
I will be convinced that TP is not doing his job if Schafer K’s here. Boog just said that they’ll likely bust him in, so we’ll see.
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
The Krotch works the count back from 1-2 to draw a walk. Diaz to second.
Schafer needs to be patient here. He’s gotten bitten by the strike out bug lately and Geary has not been that close to the strike zone.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
maybe schafer is in a slump. needs to break out of it
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
Schafer overswings on a 91 mph fastball out of the zone.
Fouls back the next pitch.
0-2 on Schafer.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
Meanwhile, Ross’ avg against righties is .296 compared to .200 against lefties.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
I’m fully convinced now.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
and a strike out! go schafer
Rob from SC
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
he can’t touch that pitch
abwright
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
Schafer strikes out swinging. Time for the rookie to make another adjustment.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:00 pm
classic braves choke
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
No excuses “Logan.” You looked TERRIBLE!!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
honestly the only way I think he’d be able to hit that is to back off the plate some.
Frankie Knuckles
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
show us you belong Schafer
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
And with that strike out maybe they need to move him back to the leadoff spot!
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
Why did Schafer look so shocked after that swing. Time to adjust buddy, they have you figured out
ncbravesgirl
May 3rd, 2009
4:01 pm
Logan looks lost right now.
Matt
May 3rd, 2009
4:02 pm
WHEN is it going to be time to send Schafer down??????????? He is obviously not ready to play at the big league level, at least offensively.
Couch Tater
May 3rd, 2009
4:03 pm
How’d ya all like it if we were Pirates fans?
We’d be talkin’ abaht dem Stillers. (in the voice of Myron Cope)
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:03 pm
2 K’s in that inning by a pitcher who normally gets 1 every 2 innings.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:04 pm
The walk to Kotchman in order to pitch to the rookie (Schafer) blew Bobby’s strategy all to hell.
Cox got his ass handed to him in that bit of managerial skulldudgery.
Matt
May 3rd, 2009
4:04 pm
Schafer is doing nothing but hurt us with all these strikeouts!!!!!!!!! **He hasn’t even driven in a run since the third game in Philly!!!!!** I’m afraid the Braves have jumped the gun yet again.
Glad Schafer is out of the leadoff spot
May 3rd, 2009
4:04 pm
And just think Matt alot of people on this blog was crying for him to be in the leadoff spot!
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
4:05 pm
Matt–you could not be more wrong…
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:05 pm
Lead off double, Watch the Astros bunt the runner to third.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:06 pm
The Braves are inconsistent in their evaluations … Hanson excels in spring and they send him down for more seasoning. Schafer excels in spring and they trade away his only competition.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:07 pm
Sac runner to third, just as I said they would.
Matt
May 3rd, 2009
4:08 pm
This team is downright pathetic.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
4:08 pm
Off to watch the Dodgers…
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:08 pm
OK braves time to give them some insurance runs back
this team REALLY sucks
this team has a will to lose and lose they will
the mindset is long gone of “how will we win the game”
replaced by “how will we lose the game” which amounts to poor management, pathetic hitting, poor baserunning, slowest right fielder with no arm in right field, idiot center fielder chasing balls to the wall and thus turning doubles into triples, left fielder with ball in the lights issues sun, rain, or evening time games, no speed, no small ball, no adjustments or game plan when at the plate
Ugh!
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
4:09 pm
Braves are going to lose another series…to another awful team…time to accept the fact that we are not very good??
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:10 pm
Hey Steve, you like the ABC baseball clinic the Astros are putting over on our Braves today ?
I thought you would.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:10 pm
If we lose 2 out of 3 to one of the worst teams in the NL…might be time to take a break from this team for awhile. This really is pathetic. No other way to put it.
Frankie Knuckles
May 3rd, 2009
4:11 pm
This team is good. This team is good. This team is good.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:11 pm
stepped away from the TV but apparently the braves have done as expected and given the astros some more runs back
SO predictably pathetic
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
4:11 pm
Frank
If you haven’t been waffling on the blog about Reyes, then obviously I wasn’t talking about you. Others on here change their minds from inning to inning on a player.
Those are the folks I was complaining about.
For my money, I think we should hang onto Reyes to give him a decent shot to show he has matured.
Boyer was definitely NOT given that sort of a shot this year at all. Can’t determine with 2 of 3 bad outings on a pitcher. (yeah, yeah, I remember last year. But I also remember the first half of last year when Boyer was a gamer.)
Braves fanatic
May 3rd, 2009
4:12 pm
“And “true fans” are wackos with no lives”
“Wouldn’t that make them dead?”
Yes – we are zombies. I want to eat your intestines.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
4:12 pm
Oh, Coach, I like it today. I’ve played enough ball to respect it. Just don’t like it over 162 games without other hitting ability.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:12 pm
Why not get creative and not just throw strikes in middle for that last run. Bobby never thinks outside the box. I bet you anything Kotchi was walked because of Schafer. We’re out managed again. OFF WITH COX’S HEAD.
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
4:12 pm
When’s the MLB Draft…anyone know?
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm
braves working hard to make sure they don’t lose by 1 run these days
bring up some guys with heart
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm
TnBrian – I’ve been a big fan what seems like forever, but I think you’re right man. This is piss-poor play all around. It’s really heartbreaking.
What Omar Infante is thinking
May 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm
That gringo gabacho hillbilly of a manager should play me every day, man.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:14 pm
brilliant bring in KJ for a righty
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:14 pm
Instant poll: Will the Braves win a game this year when behind by 2 or more runs with 2 innings left?
FaninFaytown
May 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
… did we just burn our 2nd catcher?
Efrim
May 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
Schafer is getting on base at a high rate. He has actually done well so far. If you tracked him in the minors, you knew he was going to strikeout a lot, not that it matters, since a strikeout is an out.
It’s the same people who complain about Schafer with the strikeouts who complained about Johnson when he K’d 117 times in 2007…..of course, he walked 76 times that year and had an on base of around .370, which is really good, and that is all that really matters.
Coach, do you think the Astros are a better team than the Braves, or do you just think they are more fundamentally sound? Or do you just like having a track star at the top of your batting order like Michael Bourn….who sucks.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
Matt, Jeff321, TnBrian, TnJeff (and any other whiners). Please just go. I have heard enough of your bitchin and moanin. We all know the team is struggling, so either shut up, or go. Rarely do any of you have anything reasonably relevant to discuss.
I am just glad that Al Gore didn’t invent the internet 10 years earlier, as you folks would have went crazy in the 80’s!
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
Jason–June
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
Wayne
Oh I know you weren’t talking about me.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:16 pm
Wayne
I’m with you.
HEY CARROLL!!!
May 3rd, 2009
4:16 pm
Astros have 4 sacrifice flies and three sacrifice bunts.
Carroll – what is the record for most sacrifices by a team in a 9 inning game?
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:16 pm
Cox has had a great career, but his teams keep getting worse
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:17 pm
yea I don’t know who is going to catch the next half inning
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
4:17 pm
More clarification on Garret Anderson, considering I just got some information from David O’Brien from over the weekend that helped me understand what’s going on. The Braves wanted him to go on an assignment, given how few at-bats he’s seen this season. He elected not to go, which doesn’t make them too happy. So that’s the deal. I’m not sure what it says about him in the bigger picture, I just know that they’d rather him get in the car, drive 30 minutes, and go see some live pitching. He doesn’t think he needs to, so we won’t. if he comes back Tuesday and rakes I’m sure all will be forgotten. If he struggles, maybe not so much.
Wayne is a hoople
May 3rd, 2009
4:18 pm
Wayne – why don’t you take a hike among your purple mountains.
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
4:18 pm
I hope he’ll be alright, but if not, that’s a hell of a way for Doug Brocail to end his time as a ballplayer. Dude has had Tommy John, an appendectomy, and an angioplasty during his career.
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
4:18 pm
Steve from OH, thanks…
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
4:19 pm
Um Sammons is going to catch…Kelly is hitting in the 9th spot…Sammons came in in Kotchman’s ph spot
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
4:19 pm
Seems to me that Mr. Anderson is being a prima-donna.
That right there should be grounds for a release.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
what happened?
FaninFaytown
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
who is hurt (gameday says so), and who is going to catch, diaz?
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
Russ Ortiz- more walks than strikeouts…same Russ to me!
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
We have a chance. Russ Ortiz pitching.
Jeff talked to Garret
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
Jeff explained what an insult it was for a major league player to have to go down to the lowly minor leagues. So Garret said, yeah man, i’m with you Jeff, they’re gonna have to drag me kickin and screamin.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
4:20 pm
They’re going to check on sacrifice flies and bunts. Not the simplest thing to see what kind of records Elias has on the combined sacs, but if it is one, the Braves PR staff will check. Cool, HEY YOU?!
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:21 pm
vabravesfan
their 60 yr old pitcher blew his knee out.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:21 pm
gamecast says KJ hit for Sammons. Not saying its right just saying
FaninFaytown
May 3rd, 2009
4:21 pm
ok sorry, gameday showed johnson hit for sammons in the pitchers spot but they have fixed it now
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:21 pm
Watne, I’m probably one of the more optimistic bloggers here, if you actually READ what I write.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:22 pm
You’re right Wayne … let’s concentrate on the positives with this team
Ummm …
I don’t care how much everyone complains – I like the Home red uniforms
cheld
May 3rd, 2009
4:23 pm
“Jeff explained what an insult it was for a major league player to have to go down to the lowly minor leagues”
There’s a big difference between being sent down for performance and being sent down on a rehab assignment.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
4:23 pm
Flags are starched! Lets get somebody on and LIFT one!
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:23 pm
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:10 pm
If we lose 2 out of 3 to one of the worst teams in the NL…might be time to take a break from this team for awhile. This really is pathetic. No other way to put it.
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You’re right. Calling a .500 team “pathetic” is optimistic.
Frankie Knuckles
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
C’mon blonde tips
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
Hey Efrim, who is winning?
Who has two stolen bases, four bunts and three sac flies?
WHO????????
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
there is a BB to start a rally
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
Good job by Omar, letting Russ be Russ. Make him throw strikes, Yunel!
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
Wayne In Utah, I don’t care if you wake up tomorrow dude. Gnaw on that for a while.
HEY CARROLL!
May 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
You are way cool. Thanks.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:25 pm
Russ Ortiz doesn’t look a day older since he left us!!! and he issues a walk, yep that is Russ alright
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
4:25 pm
Astros’ four sacrifice flies is one off the record for sacrifice flies in a game, which is five. The record for sacrifice bunts in a game is eight. Not sure about the combination of the two.
Steve from OH
May 3rd, 2009
4:25 pm
Certainly not the Astros, who are 10-14, whom you would be complaining about were you a fan of their team…
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:26 pm
Jeff321,
How stupid can one person be. Hoping someone dies b/c of a blog post. Go give your dad a reach-around and take a nap.
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
4:26 pm
Those last two pitches to Omar, if thrown by a Braves pitcher, would have had every person in the park, including a profanity-spewing Bobby, angry about how the ump was squeezing us.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:27 pm
I think Coach (2010 or bust) is very unhappy today
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:27 pm
Yunel swinging like Andruw, collapsing on the ground
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:28 pm
come on jeff make something happen
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
4:28 pm
Ut oh :>O
The Royals just took the lead over the Twins and guess who comes in to pitch…..
Horacio Rameriez(sp).
Lol
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
4:28 pm
Ortiz can’t throw strikes. Too bad Esco had to hack at the first 2 pitches he saw. (and I don’t mean to cross over to the dark side, Steve in OH – I’m not hatin’, I’m just sayin’);
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
4:29 pm
Here’s your spot Jeff. Crank one baby!
Andy
May 3rd, 2009
4:29 pm
sure would love to see chipper drive in a run from time to time
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
4:29 pm
jonatuga, why are you trying to lay down “dad” jokes? Is Wayne from Utah your daddy?
Larry Wayne
May 3rd, 2009
4:30 pm
Jeff321,
Really, how old are you? This is a blog. Someone thinks you’re being a bit irrational and you wish their death? My God, grow up.
WoeIsMe
May 3rd, 2009
4:31 pm
I hate this team. How in the hell did I ever get stuck being a Braves fan? Isn’t there a pill or a shot you can take to get over it? Where in the devil is all that medical research when you really need it?
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:31 pm
Josh Anderson
46 AB 6 SB .326 Avg .367 OBP 6 RBI SO 7
Frankie Knuckles
May 3rd, 2009
4:31 pm
Jonatuga, so you hope he is an incestual homosexual? Whats worse bro?
Andy
May 3rd, 2009
4:31 pm
jonatuga – that’s a classic line – one of the best all-time dismissive lines i’ve ever heard. well said
cheld
May 3rd, 2009
4:32 pm
“sure would love to see chipper drive in a run from time to time”
That’s sort of hard to do when everyone is trying to pitch around you.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
4:32 pm
jonatuga
Thanks for having my back. Actually, I despise some of these crybabies. I really shouldn’t let them get to me, but I do sometimes. Sometimes I stick the knife in, to get a reaction, so others will see them for what they really are, a bunch of whining “loosers”.
I loved your comeback to TnBrian, one of the biggest whiners on the blog, who actually thinks he is positive. Brian, YOU should go read some of your rant.
And Jeff, well sorry to disappoint, but I will probably wake up in the morning, and again see you for the whiner you are.
But thanks for the positive thoughts…..azzhole!
And, while you are leaving (you are leaving, I hope), don’t let the screen door hit you in the backside on the way out!
And, have a nice day!
National Institutes of Health
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
“Isn’t there a pill or a shot you can take to get over it? Where in the devil is all that medical research when you really need it?”
This is a genetic disorder. We are working on a vaccine. But it is still in animal testing.
Blog Ref
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
I am just glad that Al Gore didn’t invent the internet 10 years earlier
Yet another Fox News talking point inserted into the conversation on a baseball blog that is supposedly politics-free!
Al Gore never said that. For a change, how about you people do some research and stop believing everything Fox News and billionaire-funded pundits tell you?
Now back to baseball…without wingnut propaganda.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
Larry Wayne, maybe I think Wayne from Utah is a bit irrational all the time. If you don’t like my posts, maybe you should wait until I address ya.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
Swung at 2 ball fours.
JD
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
“That’s sort of hard to do when everyone is trying to pitch around you.”
And no one gets on base in front of you
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
4:33 pm
That was clutch hitting.
(You know, clutch for your throat while you choke away an AB.)
Andy
May 3rd, 2009
4:34 pm
oof
Almost everyone else
May 3rd, 2009
4:34 pm
That’s OK Wayne, we agree with you, man, and appreciate you saying it.
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:34 pm
Jeff321,
No, just figured you had to be 14 or 15 and living at home to say something that incredibly idiotic.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:34 pm
For Wayne
Good try Frenchy – swing looked nice
We’ll get three in the 9th
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
4:35 pm
It’s Sunday folks…can’t we all get along?
JerksInc
May 3rd, 2009
4:35 pm
think Coach (2010 or bust) is very unhappy today N NINE
he’s always unhappy, and a total a$$hole.COACH & PTOWN & MF04.Shudder.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:35 pm
Three more outs and then ya’ll can start the bitching.
Strictly Confidential
May 3rd, 2009
4:35 pm
Wayne = Waynie Mae Hofstetter, a 63 year old spinster from Provo.
JD
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
We’ll get three in the 9th TNJeff
Three what? Outs? Have you seen this team?
Mike
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
How about we trade the Braves lineup for the Braves Triple-A lineup and maybe they will do better!! We need to also fire TP because he is teaching this lineup how to leave runners on base and strikeout! No discipline at all!
FrenchyFries
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
you know Jeff would have gotten a hit had runners not been on base.
Jeff F.
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
I’m going to swing no matter where the pitch is located. I hope it’s right down the middle. Plate discipline is for losers.
choozer
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
Blog Ref, with that Fox comment you just did what you said shouldn’t be done here. If you’re going to advocate a standard of no politics, then live by it.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
Me unhappy? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Try again.
Truly fed up fan
May 3rd, 2009
4:36 pm
“Three more outs and then ya’ll can start the bitching.”
and bitch we will!
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
4:37 pm
I can’t take it anymore, I with you! Going to treat myself with some ice cream and enjoy the rest of my weekend. This game and this blog will make me feel like Coach….
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:37 pm
Frenchy of 2008 returns. Hey, Hawkins ball moves. Right out of strike zone, so Jeff has to swing.
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:37 pm
JD
Power of Positive thinking – Wayne’s on to something
I fell another Division Title!!!!
Frankie Knuckles
May 3rd, 2009
4:38 pm
As of late, it seems like every team has their coming out parties with the Braves.
Its only bad luck, its only bad luck, its only bad luck.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
4:38 pm
Rodney Derrick
I thanked you before, but the post never showed up. That’s another of the peculiarities my computer is going through today. I believe you were right about a weak signal. Every once in a while, I have trouble with Verizon.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:38 pm
Wayne, you’re not putting that crap over on me! Of course I and just about anybody else is going to be negative when time and time again the same dang thing holds this team back from a win. Especially against the lowly Stros. I’ve been bashed for being a retard on being overly optimistic.
JD
May 3rd, 2009
4:38 pm
Three more outs and then ya’ll can start the bitching. Coach
Looks like you’ve already got a head start on the douchebagging.
Larry Wayne
May 3rd, 2009
4:38 pm
Jeff321,
You really must be a child. Wait until I address you huh? That inferiority complex must be hell. Go watch Spongebob while snacking on your Oreos and let the grown-ups follow baseball.
You were given eyes but you cannot see
May 3rd, 2009
4:39 pm
that this year is going to be EXACTLY the same as last year, except with different players. As long as Bobby Cox is managing the Braves, they will ALWAYS FAIL in EVERY WAY. A Bobby Cox-managed team does not have what it takes to be competent.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
4:39 pm
Wayne in Utah, do you realize how much delight it brings me to know I make ya mad?
Seriously, I’m tired of you and your self righteous attitude. All you do is complain about complainers. (Which makes you a f’ing hypocrite.) So, why don’t you go spend some time with your kids. (In a good way, unlike your defender talking about ramming my daddy and giving him a customary reach around.)
TNJeff
May 3rd, 2009
4:39 pm
Oops – meant “feel”
No falling on this team
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
May 3rd, 2009
4:40 pm
Well, I don’t think I am a cry baby, but I will say one thing; this team has no mojo…or “it” or whatever else you want to call it…We have NO chance if we don’t get a bat. But, even if we do…if the offense has a good day, the pitching doesn’t, if the pitching does, either the offense of defense doesn’t…just isn’t there in my opinion. Luckily, as others have pointed out, every other team in the division has issues as well. Maybe we will get it straightened out, but I am not holding my breath…
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
4:42 pm
good job gonzo to keep it where it is. Keep something started prado
cheld
May 3rd, 2009
4:42 pm
“Al Gore Never Said That”
“During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.”
If you know the background, you can see how he didn’t technically claim to invent the internet, but it’s clear his words were chosen to imply that for political gain during the Democratic primaries in 1999-2000.
The exploitation of that comment was made via the RNC ads. Fox News, at the time, was still small potatoes in the Cable News industry.
I find it pretty hypocritical that you attack a poster for pushing a widely held stereotype about Gore by making a widely held stereotype about Fox News.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
4:42 pm
Almost everyone else
As you may have noticed, by appearance on the blog is much less frequent these days, as is that of many of the old guard. I think many are feeling the same way that I feel, that the blog is overrun by a bunch of “Negative Nellies” who are so into instant gratification that they live from game to game, inning to inning, at bat to at bat and even sometimes pitch to pitch.
They have no real appreciation for the beauty of the game. They have no understanding that a season has wild swings from horror to bliss. What they fail to realize is that most true fans have similar feelings that they do once in a while, but realize that it truly is a marathon, and not a sprint. They can only focus on the sprint.
Heck, even Coach, while being critical of our teams deficiencies, realizes that will a change or two, or maybe a bit of luck, things can turn, and the fortune of the team can swing back to the positive.
The folks I grow tired of are the ones that seem to only know how to say “the braves suck” in about 50 different ways.
Enough. Some will start calling me Braveheart or N8, if I don’t keep it short!!!
Andy
May 3rd, 2009
4:42 pm
“I hate this team. How in the hell did I ever get stuck being a Braves fan? ” – you know, if you grew up watching the braves during their 14 yr pennant run, it’s time to face the fact that you were spoiled. teams don’t win every year – that’s what made the Braves’ run so historic. teams don’t win sometimes and you still pull for them. that’s just the way it goes.
that being said, i think the braves can win this year – this is a much different line-up with McCann back in at clean-up. And who knows, maybe we get something out of Anderson in left .
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:44 pm
Chipper falling apart again? Hey I am 62 and I ice my heel after I run because of plantar fascitis in the past.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
4:44 pm
Joe said he just watched The Wrestler last night…me too! That’s weird. Good movie, I’d give it a b+
TooBusy?
May 3rd, 2009
4:45 pm
TINBRAIN
I still love ya sweeetiepie.Don’t let them dogs bite your shins.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
4:46 pm
Now, now kiddies….
Can’t we all just get along?
Lol
j/k
jonatuga
May 3rd, 2009
4:46 pm
Well said Wayne
Jerald Holcombe
May 3rd, 2009
4:46 pm
Okay, that did it for me. Francoeur with a 3-0 count and then he swings at a ball running in on him and then swings at the next two pitches in the dirt or almost in the dirt. I just don’t think that I can take another inning of these guys trying to imitate baseball players. And they are playing the Astros for crying out loud. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a ballclub perform so weakly and look like they don’t have a clue. I used to be a big Bobby Cox supporter, but right now, I can’t wait for him to retire. And if he doesn’t retire at years end, I honestly hope that his health goes downhill and he has to quit. And if that doesn’t work, then he should die. Harsh, but who gives a rat’s a$$!
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:47 pm
Yea, think positive. This team might be so awful that even Bobby Cox will get fed up and retire.
Almost everyone else
May 3rd, 2009
4:48 pm
No, TnBrian, I already agreed with Wayne!
Swings? What swings?
May 3rd, 2009
4:50 pm
Swings? The braves have been pretty consistent this season (after the first couple of games). Little in the way of offense, poor fundamentals, poor middle relief pitching, and not being able to win close games.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
4:50 pm
TnBrian
Ya seen Mr. Brooks with Kevin Costner and Demi Moore…errr..Kutcher?
Ya wanna talk about an erie film. Woah!!
TooBusy?
May 3rd, 2009
4:50 pm
COACH
Maybe they could even be so awful that you would become a fan of another team and take your obnoxious blowhardery elsewhere.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:52 pm
Braves sure love to swing at bad balls. Hey Matt, we need a base runner and that would have been a walk
Our last, best hope...
May 3rd, 2009
4:53 pm
Clint Sammons?
TheVastMajorityOfTheBoard
May 3rd, 2009
4:53 pm
Way to go Wayne. Tell them little jackazzes off. They think freedom of speech gives them the right to trample over everybody else.
Our last, best hope...
May 3rd, 2009
4:55 pm
Diaz and Sammons strike out looking. LOOKING.
Bobby’s plan was to get 6 consecutive walks to tie it up.
You were given eyes but you cannot see
May 3rd, 2009
4:56 pm
This team just does not want to win. If they did, they’d be making the adjustments that would allow them to.
The true vast majority
May 3rd, 2009
4:56 pm
Wayne is a wanker. Pizz off.
Blog Ref
May 3rd, 2009
4:57 pm
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country’s economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.
That is the entire quote. He said he “took the initiative in creating” which is not the same thing.Fact is, as silly as Gore comes across, he has been right about many things including pushing for funding of the projects that lead to the internet as we now know it.
That’s like one of the Braves walking, and then deciding to steal second and then claiming he “created” the run when someone else drove him in.
Again, wingnuts have to lie and exaggerate because you are out of the mainstream. Now quietly play with your teabags, or go to some other blog and plot your succession from our great country.
Coach (2010 or bust)
May 3rd, 2009
4:57 pm
Bark at the park turns into a dog day at the yard. WOOF!
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
4:57 pm
Diaz and Sammons see strikes and can not swing. Clint looks up at sky.
I am historically optimistic, but right now this team does not look very good.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
4:59 pm
Well now, wasn’t that a fun half hour!
Now we have some wishing for me and Bobby Cox to die. It looks like I am in good company.
As the game is now completed, it’s ironic that on a day when we score 5 runs, Moylan and Soriano give up 3 runs, and we lose by 2.
Coach
I gotta believe when McCann returns to his All-Star form (we can only hope) and Garret Anderson (hopefully) returns to his 2008 form, then it will cure many of our current ills. Darn hard to expect 6th and 7th hitters to become good 4th and 5th hitters.
As one of the blowhards earlier suggested, I will now resume normal family activities for the remainder of the day.
Mike Hancho
May 3rd, 2009
4:59 pm
Jo-Jo needs to go-go!
Mike Hancho
May 3rd, 2009
5:00 pm
We need to trade for Josh Anderson.
Mike Hancho
May 3rd, 2009
5:01 pm
Give them Diaz
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
5:04 pm
Frank, no haven’t seen it, but my girlfriend would like to. So, I’ll end up seeing it sooner or later. Wow, what about Wayne? Grief, like I’m “Mr. negative” here…
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
5:04 pm
Gotta agree with Boog. The NL East just isn’t that good, us included. Not whinin’, just stating the obvious. Sure, I was filled with promise after our first six games (ok, five out of the first six), but when it comes right down to it, we’re really not that good. No speed, no fire, no urgency, no fundamentals, etc.
Call it whining, bitching or whatever. I love my Braves and always will. We’ve had our opening day lineup in all of what…..3 games this year??? Maybe that has something to do with our woes. I don’t know. Sure, I’ll continue to watch to the end like I have for the past 35 years. If it gets somebody’s panties in a wad that I moan over losing, then so be it.
Lets go get ‘em tomorrow!!!
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
5:05 pm
Big news as I just heard Chip Caray say TBS will have Braves at Phillies next Sunday. On time TV baseball, like old times. Unless it rains like yesterday when Fox dropped during rain delay. But then Braves on the base paths seem to be frozen, so not sure what could be lost.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
I think many are feeling the same way that I feel, that the blog is overrun by a bunch of “Negative Nellies” who are so into instant gratification that they live from game to game, inning to inning, at bat to at bat and even sometimes pitch to pitch.
I agree with Wayne on this point. There are a few who must believe we don’t all see that the Braves are struggling so far this season and they feel it’s their job to tell us every blog, every day, all day.
This blog use to be more fun, even when the Braves were losing. Now there is much more misery and dreariness.
Every fan has a right to say what s/he would like about the team good, bad, ugly, hopeful, but you shouldn’t get mad when someone says that there’s no need in making things worse which is all Wayne really said. IMHO
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
5:06 pm
Blog Ref
Why don’t you go bleed your Barbra Streisand on another blog. An innocent, comical reference to something that has been joked about by ALL the networks, and you go off on your own political rant. You, my friend are going to get your just rewards.
And by the way, if your going to slam me, have the balls to do so in your normal screen name.
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
5:10 pm
Wayne I gotta believe when McCann returns to his All-Star form (we can only hope)…
I’m still holding out hope! Bring on the Fillies! (Gosh I hate saying that! But you know how it is…)
BTW–Pudge cann wear the real mask with his sunglasses…maybe it’s differ’nt with regular glasses, though…
alsim
May 3rd, 2009
5:10 pm
This season reminds me a lot of 2006-2008. Don’t give me that “it’s still early B.S.” World Series hopefuls do not lose to teams like the Nats, Astros and Pirates. Wait til the Braves play the Phils, Mets, Marlins, Yanks, BoSox, and the whole NL West.
IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE. Bobby Cox has been great for the team but his time has passed and it is time for him to retire. Additionally, the whole Schuerholz-Wren mafia need to find a nice condo in Boca as well.
Follow the lead of the Falcons and find some young energetic minds to take this team into the 21st Century.
.
The Truth Hurts
May 3rd, 2009
5:11 pm
Blog Ref, your resort to name-calling speaks volumes about you, as does your silly belief that people who watch Fox News are “out of the mainstream.” Huh? As opposed to watching CNN (where Gore made that quote), the DNC’s political ally for years? Ha. I’d say that was ironic, but…well, that’d be too easy.
I love people who criticize Fox and turn a blind eye to CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS…hmmm, hypocritical, yes?
It was a self-serving and misleading comment. Plain and simple.
Is this where I go tell you to build an ark as we all move inland to avoid the rising seas?
The Braves…if they’re still struggling after 50 games, wake me. You can’t tell anything about a baseball team before the 50th game, unless you’re really really good or really really bad. The Braves are neither. So give it another 30 games.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
5:12 pm
Mixxo & Jason
You guys aren’t the problem. I don’t mind some complaining. Frustration is OK. Heck, even get mad and say so.
What I grow tired of is the constant moaning by a select group (who some are in denial that they are whiners) who seem to be hell bent on constantly berating every single bad pitch or swing.
You guys are definitely not the issue.
Kirk
You hit the nail on the head.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:14 pm
I love seeing Infante at second and leading off. Keep slumping Kelly on the bench. Schafer’s strikeouts are getting old. The Braves whole approach to the plate sucks. They either swing at a first pitch and pop out or ground out or miss it, or they work the count in their favor and still manage to strike out.
Seriously, who is afraid of a team that has the catcher batting 4th? NO ONE! And our guy is out for weeks when he could have had his surgery and have been back by now.
I am so sick of seeing something like a lead off triple that doesnt score. Or pitching out only to have your catcher drop the ball. The Stros didnt have any problems moving guys over with a bunt and then sac flying them in. How are we so stupid and unable to get the simple jobs done.
Fire TP now!! Dude has done nothing. Is Bobby even seeing the mistakes or is he just sitting there ready to take up for his boys. He needs to chew their a$$es out. A team that is just happy to be in the big leagues has no business in Atlanta.
Proud of DLowe, JJJ, Frenchy, Vazquez, and anyone on the team that will work a count and then be able to move runners over or sac fly or bunt correctly. The rest of this $97 payroll sucks. How is the world can we be spending that much money and have a team full of dudes that cant play fundamental baseball. It is so frustrating and sad. I love the Braves and always will but this just ruins my day each time they lose. So man ive got about 77 more days to be ruined unless some change gets made. This team needs a big change/wakeup call.
Mixxo
May 3rd, 2009
5:15 pm
“Follow the lead of the Falcons and find some young energetic minds to take this team into the 21st Century.”
Something that’s been on my mind alsim. Hiring that hitting coach from the Rangers would be a good move too.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
5:16 pm
Today was a well played game by both sides, but the lack of offense was the key factor on this loss. Jo-jo pitched well, but the Astros made perfect execution today, and Braves bulpen couldn’t shut them down.
I hope Wren can trade for a bat, because even considering Mac, and Garret Anderson aren’t in the lineup, this offense is pathetic. I think they should trade for a 1B, because Kotchman isn’t enough. I like his glove, but the absence of power from a 1B is too depresing to the offense. It doesn’t have to be a 1B for the future(That will be Freddy Freeman), a 2 year rental would be great.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
5:16 pm
The Truth Hurts
Oh heck, now you’ve gone and done it. You’ll hear the wrath of the masses now! (damn, how the truth is hard to hear) Oh heck, now I shouldn’t have said that too.
Actually, your point on the 50 games probably has a LOT of merit. BUT, you know we can’t win if we can beat all these lowly teams ALL the time!!!
(now I will leave before the bullets start to fly)
Dumbfound
May 3rd, 2009
5:17 pm
Do Bobby Cox ever chew his players out ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! H-E-L-L to the No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
5:17 pm
AR Brave, now that was NOT whining! That was telling the 100% truth! TP needs to hit the road on his Harley and NEVER come back…I mean, NEVER!
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
5:19 pm
To whomeverleft the WGST link, for Skip Caray, yesterday … thank you.
Wayne
I wouldn’t worry too much about the death wishes. Back in my school days, I was captain of my debating team. Whenever we were losing, and couldn’t think of anything intelligent to say, our argument would be, “well, we hope you all die”. Nobody died and we all failed.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:20 pm
I could not agree more TnBrian.
Thanks TP for the days you played, but rev that hawg up and be gone.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
5:22 pm
Rodney
If you get SS/FSS then TBS will be Blacked Out.
Jo Jo Reyes is useless
May 3rd, 2009
5:27 pm
Anyone who says Jo Jo Reyes pitched well today is a blithering idiot.
HE GAVE UP 4 EARNED RUNS in 5 and 1/3 innings.
That is pretty crappy.
Blog Ref
May 3rd, 2009
5:29 pm
You guys are out of the mainstream. You ran a genuine war hero against a black guy who had been in the Senate for two years and YOU LOST!
For the record, I don’t care much for any of the corporate media, not just Fox. I picked Fox because they are the worst. Fox news sponsored your “teabagging” , none of of the others ones did.
Now they are a dog whistle for racists and traitors who want to succeed from this country! Now if you think these things make you mainstream, then by all means go right ahead.
You continue to miss my point which was that Gore comment wasn’t called for and there was no need to go there except one wingnut feeling the privilege to once again violate the creed of the blog. That we’re still going back and forth about it just proves my point.
You guys are no longer the mainstream. You are angry, pouting, frustrated little children who haven’t come to grips that your reign is over. You had youtr chance to run things and you failed. Now you want to breakup the country because you didn’t get your way.
I’m done.
Peace traitors!
Go Braves!!!!!!
The advocate
May 3rd, 2009
5:32 pm
Everyone should make themselves a nice sandwhich. And slather lots of tasty, nutritious ADVOCADO on the bread.
Bill O'Reilly
May 3rd, 2009
5:33 pm
Enter your comments here
Bill O'Reilly
May 3rd, 2009
5:34 pm
Blog Ref
Go check out my ratings, and then tell me we’re not mainstream!
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
5:36 pm
I left during the 7th and thought I could come here to find out why Chipper left the game, instead I get 2-3 pages of grown ass men acting like catty women on their period.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:40 pm
Hey, FW check these dudes out.
A Gonzalez- 3.125M salary this year. Would be awesome at 1B. Guy puts up power numbers while hitting for average, like a 1B should.
Konerko- makes 12M and would be a salary dump by the Sox if they tank possibly. Could be ideal rental for 2 years.
FW DO NOT RENT A GUY FOR ONE YEAR AND GET NOTHING IN RETURN ALA TEXIERA.
Blalock- makes 6.2M and has come back strong this year so far. Could hold up just long enough to get Freeman in the fold.
Just a few suggestions until Freddie gets called up. Whatever happens stick with Furman and keep what great prospects from the farm that we have now. Trade some of the guys on our current MLB squad that are just happy to be in the majors.
Jo Jo Reyes wouldn't know good pitching if it were in his cereal bowl and he swallowed it
May 3rd, 2009
5:41 pm
The Braves will keep running tubs out there because they don’t really expect to win his games since he is the fifth starter.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
5:42 pm
How many SB’s do we have as a team?(real question)
Because Crawford just swiped 6(SIX) today!!! wow
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
Run Heap Run, yeah, I know. As to Chipper, he came up looking just a little odd (don’t know how else to put it) as he was hitting third base. No major agony that could be seen.
My uninformed, irrational prediction: some kind of groin strain or pull.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
Run Heap Run
I left during the 7th and thought I could come here to find out why Chipper left the game, instead I get 2-3 pages of grown ass men acting like catty women on their period.
That’s the beauty of free speech. And Im sure not everyone here is an ass man. Im sure some like women for their eyes.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
The only players who I think would help the Braves, and their current teams might be willing to trade them are:
- Aubrey Huff(he would be a half year rental, and he is making 8 million this year)
- Prince Fielder( he is signed until the 2010 season and he will make 6.5 million this year and 10.5 million next year)
- Adam Laroche( he will make 7.5 million this year, and he has average 25 homers per year)
- Garret Atkins(he will make 7.5 million this year, and he is a right handed slugger)
The trade candidates for the Braves need to be, Casey Kotchman, Jo-jo Reyes, Charlie Morton, Gregor Blanco, and Brandon Jones.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
5:43 pm
AR Brave, no way Gonzalez get traded. Tex was for 1.5 years but traded him before it ran out. If we get Konerko would be close to same thing since he runs out after next year I think
Jo Jo Reyes, innings eater?
May 3rd, 2009
5:44 pm
He is an omnivore. He will eat innings or anything else he can get a hold of.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
5:45 pm
What you going to trade gregor blanco for seriously? a half a bag of balls? I like the kid, I really do but he hasn’t put up anything that will make any team desperate to get him
PMC
May 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
I tend to wonder, why we don’t try to steal more bases. This team doesn’t have reliable hitters anywhere. That’s one reason they are getting so many two out RBI’s… dumb luck mostly. the first two couldn’t do it.. then boom. This is the same issue as the last several years. Far too many left on base. This is a throw away year though anyway while they build up the farm system. This team is not quite good enough to get to or do anything in the playoffs.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
5:46 pm
I expect we will get the TBS game as we do not get the same Fox Sports South in Durham that Atlanta receives, nor do we get Peachtree. Of course, the big question will be whether Carroll Rogers can arrange to cover the Philadelphia series so she can be hanging in the pressbox when Chip and Ron Darling are around.
Jo Jo Reyes for president...
May 3rd, 2009
5:47 pm
…of the local weight watchers chapter.
njbraves
May 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
Let’s face it folks…this team just isn’t very good. Stopping blaming everything on Bobby, it’s the players fault. They all look like they’d rather be somewhere else. Only thing we’ve got going for us is, I think the whole division is mediocre.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
5:49 pm
AR Brave
I’m versatile. I’m an assman, and, I like nice eyes.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:50 pm
1B guys out there are slim pickins. Konerko I mentioned possibly for the salary dump and only if we didnt give up half the prospects we gave for tex. I agree no way for A Gonzo to leave.
Well we just gotta hope BMac comes back healthy and strong and Krotchman plays defense. We know he wont play power offense ever.
Seems like we play decent against decent competition and awful against the bad teams. Except the case with the marlins. Here’s to hoping we destroy the Mutts and get ready for a hellacious road trip.
Bobby Cox is a doddering old fool
May 3rd, 2009
5:50 pm
If the players are not playing then Bobby should light a fire under their butts or else get new players.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
5:50 pm
Hank Blalock is also a pretty good trade possibility.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
5:51 pm
Tom O’ Hawke, are you the guy on the dos equis commercials??? your last comment makes me think you could be.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
5:53 pm
I like nice eyes Tom O’hawke
Cabravesfan got sexy blue eyes. I’m sure you already knew that.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
Tomas, based on their past history, it is unlikely the Braves will make a trade right now. Besides, who’s to say that if we did make a trade now that whoever we got wouldn’t be infected with the same haplessness?
It’s amazing to me how players traded to good teams tend to do well, and players traded to struggling teams rarely make a positive enough difference.
So long as the remain just a few games out of the division lead and/or Wild Card, they are not going to feel any urgency until late June or July. Remember, they always operate under the assumption that you don’t really know what kind of team you’ve got until June.
Save those minutes
May 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
“Tom O’ Hawke, are you the guy on the dos equis commercials??? ”
No, he’s the teenager who is scolded by his mom for throwing old minutes away.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
5:55 pm
AR Brave …. I’ve neveer seen it, but I’m thinking it’s probably somebody else. Why, do we have a lot in common?
YAD.
May 3rd, 2009
5:55 pm
From the Los Angeles Times –
Garret Anderson played 2,013 games for the Angels, the most in franchise history. The Angels did not offer him a new contract — he wanted to remain an everyday player; they would not make that promise — and so he signed with the Atlanta Braves as a free agent.
Anderson, 36, sat out much of spring training because of a strained right calf and was limited to 20 at-bats during the exhibition season. He aggravated the injury during the third game of the regular season, did not start for another six days, then played six games before straining his left calf.
That injury put him on the disabled list, with 25 at-bats all he has to show for the season. He is batting .200, with no home runs or runs batted in.
He is eligible to be activated from the disabled list Tuesday. The Braves asked him to go on a brief minor league rehabilitation assignment; he said no. Under the collective bargaining agreement players must consent to a rehabilitation assignment, so Anderson is within his rights to say no. Still, the Braves cannot be thrilled that a player who struggled to find a job and has been slowed by injury three times since the start of spring training would not test his legs and take a few swings in the minors.
–Bill Shaikin
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
5:56 pm
If the Cubs where smart(which they aren’t), they’d trade Derek Lee. They have a young 1B who can really hit in Micah Hoffpauir(they won’t trade him either). Derek Lee is making 13 million this year, and is signed until the 2010 season.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
5:56 pm
N Nine … Yeah, but that’s according to her.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
5:57 pm
The only good thing about Fox News is the EYE CANDY…altho it’s not the same as it used to be with E.D. Hill, Juliet Huddy, and a few others who are no longer there.
Megyn Kelly is a definately babe tho and so is Alisyn Camerota and Gretchen Carlson from Fox & Friends.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
5:58 pm
AR Brave … I hope that commercial guy spells neveer better than I.
Don't bother reading anything Tomas says
May 3rd, 2009
5:58 pm
He thinks Jo Jo Reyes pitched well today. Nothing he says makes any sense.
LivininAL
May 3rd, 2009
5:59 pm
Braves need to send Anderson packin
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
6:00 pm
TOMAS, Why would Cubbies trade an allstar player? They haven’t won in a century and Lee is a key asset for the team. He’s coming around, he homered yesterday and today. I can’t see that happening.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
6:02 pm
kirkinga, obviously the trade won’t happen right now. but around the trade deadline. Like you said many teams will be unwilling to make a trade right now given that it’s too early, and everybody feels they can contend right now(except the Nationals, and Orioles). Trading for Adam Dunn would be a good move, but I’m sure the Nationals won’t trade one of the players in their team that attract fans to go to their ball games.
I really like Aubrey Huff.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
6:02 pm
Garret Anderson is going to be ok. He had the right to say “no” and he did. I’m willing to bet that he isn’t the first Brave to do so.
Point is we need his bat in the lineup. The guy has proven that he can hit and hit in the clutch.Let him get in there and get some ab’s and I bet we’ll see the real Garret Anderson slowly emerge.
Then again, you could argue that that KJ-Ryan Ludwig trade sure looks a lot better than it did this summer.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
6:05 pm
I wouldn’t mind Rochie back in a Braves uni.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
6:06 pm
Just seems like he is versatile with the ladies too. Based on your ass man and eyes comment.
D Lee is on the decline but can put up numbers better than krotchman surely. That salary is a lot to take on though. I think the Cubbies also have another stud 1B in the minors too. I would like the have a RH batter in that lineup for one or two years though.
IMO ganderson is a downer. How can anyone feed off someone that never smiles or acts like he wants to be in ATL? dude depresses me just watching him. No wonder kelly is slumping, and we are losing to sucky teams. Gander has us all depressed and down on ourselves.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
6:08 pm
Frank, be weary of Roche letting too many guys beat him to first base when he catches a routine grounder and then decides to walk/jog/pimp walk to the base. He gives up way to many baserunners that way.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 3rd, 2009
6:09 pm
What a surprise! Chipper got hurt again, guess that means tomorrow will ruin his 4 consecutive games played streak. He was really starting to close the gap on Cal Ripken Jr.
kirkinga
May 3rd, 2009
6:09 pm
Tomas, Adam Dunn? Ok, it’s time for some of you to accept that Adam Dunn is not going to be a Brave. I know it’s hard to give up your fantasies, but you just have to face reality. It’s hard, I had to give up on my fantasy that Will Ohman would be resigned, but we have to move on.
Adam Dunn does not help us. The Braves do lack power, but they lack clutch hitting even more. If Dunn were a Braves, he’d be walked which he is perfectly happy to do.
Right now, until I see how the lineup performs with McCann and Anderson in it, I would be more inclined to add another reliever.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
6:11 pm
N Nine, I know they won’t trade him. I’m just saying that Micah Hoffpauir is awesome, and if he got the opportunity to play everyday, he could hit 300 with 20 homers. Derek Lee is making 13 million, and they need a closer. If I were they’re GM, I’d trade Derek Lee for a closer like Jose Valverde for example. It’s like when the Braves traded Edgar Renteria, they had a younger shorstop who was ready to step in Yunel Escobar.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
6:14 pm
Good point AR Brave.
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
6:15 pm
kirkinga, I know it won’t happen, I was just saying he would be a good fit to this team. And it won’t happen because the Nationals need him to atract fans to the ballpark.
Supes
May 3rd, 2009
6:17 pm
Frank from KS, you sure know your FOX news anchors and reporters, at least all the ladies!
Coach, you are right on to call out the Braves for being schooled in fundamental ABC national league ball today by the LAST PLACE Houston Astros.
Wayne, it’s one thing to just vent without offering a solution or an alternative. I’m not a fan of just “negative vent blogging” myself. However, when the team is failing so far, one can vent and then propose a solution. Fair enough?
I’ve already said that this current team, lineup wise is flawed. Too many platoons, no consistant offense from anyone at this point. Teams aren’t allowing Chipper to beat then in close games, and B-Mac is not able to help being out right now.
I believe that good starting pitching will keep this Braves team around .500, the pen will have it’s moments but struggle, but not as much as last year. I also believe the 1 run thing will even out and it won’t be such a glaring issue in 09.
However, Braves offense will keep them from being anything more than average. Too many holes, too much inconsistancies and not enough firepower.
Solution is to have an established lead off guy, and eventually END this platoon obsession that Bobby Cox has in LF and around the horn, at 2B.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
6:18 pm
Umm
If you watched the post game show…Chipper ain’t hurt
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
6:19 pm
BTW, if anyone else is having difficulty reading the posts, because of the shaded section on the left half, I invented something I’ll share with you. Take an old pair of sunglasses and pop out the left lens. Works like a charm.
nolie… are you around?
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
6:21 pm
My timing is fantastic, ain’t it? First one on the new, unshaded page … sheesh!
Tomas
May 3rd, 2009
6:25 pm
I perfect analogy for this team was the San Francisco Giants of the NL East. I think Ken Rosenthal wrote that this week. This team needs a slugger.
Moderate Maniac
May 3rd, 2009
6:27 pm
I found a contest that has larger odds against winning than the Powerball Lottery!
It’s a Braves radio in-game contest that has run for a number of years. When Jim Powell announced it today, I just chuckled to myself.
It’s the Braves “Stolen Base Inning.” hehehehe
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
6:37 pm
Dropping 2 of 3 to the last place Stros, WTF! This Team Sucks and if this team ever gets its Shyt together all these games that we are blowing to the Jubroni teams are really gonna cost us in a close race in September…
We are Gonna Get Clowned if we play like this against the Mets
If this Punchless/Inconsistant offense continues look for GA to get released, and F.W. to Bring in Another LF via trade as a 1 year stop-gap (Holliday Maybe, but he will be another Tex, And That is putting it lightly because I don’t think he will hit, playing half of his games at our pitchers paradise…
I say we need Someone to protect Chipper because our lineup Sucks! Teams will continue 2 pitch around “Hoss” All season, And I don’t See B-Macc Playing no more than 125 games (Being optomistic)
Ross and Kotchman as our #4 hitters are gonna make teams laugh (especially in Interleague play) when they see our Anemic offense, Unless Changes are made in the Short Term…
Francoeur Has gotten it together in bases loaded situations…? Please! I’m Not hating on Frenchie in this post but You can’t make assumptions that he is a dangerous hitter with the bases loaded based on 2 AB’s in that situation this season…
Hell we haven’t even hit the 40 game mark this season…
And WTF Is Wrong with “Hoss” again…
Ronald Millsaps
May 3rd, 2009
6:42 pm
I’ve been saying for most of the past two years that the Braves are misusing Kelly Johnson. He deserves to bat 600 times per season and to do so where he’s most effective. Instead, he’s out of place offensively and defensively, and there’s really no excuse for such managerial execution.
I stand by my statement that Bobby’s the greatest manager of all time, but Charlie Manuel has him beaten offensively at the moment, and this fact is subject to change at any time.
Kelly, in my opinion, is our third-best offensive player (Chipper, McCann), but he absolutely isn’t a leadoff hitter. He’s an aggressive, top-half-of-the-ball-hitter who can hit for power and average and take advantage of the dimensions at Turner Field, as evidenced by his high total of doubles and triples, so yes, I get very frustrated to see him at leadoff over and over.
Furthermore, he’s out of place at second base and needs to be used where he best can help us defensively, too.
Bobby’s moving of Omar Infante to second and leadoff simultaneously intrigues me. I applaud it. Now we need to move Johnson to left and let him bat lower in the order—-or anywhere but at leadoff—-and yes, he needs to bat four times per night. Bobby didn’t give him a chance to bat four times per night consistently until late last season, and what happened? He had a 25-game hitting streak—and it very well might’ve been 26 and a game-winner if he had gotten to bat one night when the game ended with him on deck, and it might not have ended had the Braves not executed poorly late in the game.
Speaking of execution, I’d like to see Bobby try double steals. When Escobar and Chipper were on second and first, respectively, earlier, that time would’ve been good for it. Instead of trying to steal bases and put pressure on pitchers and defenses, runners usually stand there and in the process put pressure on the offense.
Dave O’Brien keeps talking about Jordan Schafer’s strikeout total, but his on-base percentage is good and outweighs said strikeout total. The good news here is that we have the luxury of going with Infante–a better leadoff hitter and second-baseman than Johnson, and moving Schafer elsewhere. Furthermore, Johnson’s a better run-producer than is Infante and plays a better left field, so move him there, please. (He’s also faster than Matt Diaz and Anderson and can cover more ground. Also, his not having the stress of being out of place at second should enhance his hitting, much like what happened to Ken Caminiti when he returned to where he was comfortable defensively.)
Also, let’s see stability in this lineup, not benching players all the time and flipping them in the order based on R-L match-ups. If it were my call, I’d go Infante-Escobar-Chipper-Francoeur-McCann-Prado (1B)-Schafer-Johnson. Casey Kotchman plays better defense than does Prado, so I could live with his being the starter there, but Prado might give us more extra-base hits.
Something needs to be done. This team has a great starting ERA and has gotten fine production out of its bullpen for the most part (I’ll feel better if Peter Moylan returns to form and am very thankful that Mike Gonzalez has). To get such a low ERA and to be below .500 is, to say the least, a contradiction.
Moving Infante to leadoff and second is a major step in the right direction on Bobby’s part. I hope now that Johnson will be given at least a week to re-prove what he can do when batting lower in the order. He absolutely tore the cover off the ball in 2007 when getting the chance to bat lower but only sporadically has gotten that chance since.
As I said, I think Bobby’s the greatest manager ever. Therefore, I’m surprised that he’s not formulating a better offense. We have too many players getting shuffled here and there and are seeing too many emphases on R-L assignments.
If we have each player where he’s best-suited to help the team, we’ll not only see higher averages and better numbers but will see a peaceful, stable effect on the lineup, where cohesion takes the place of conflict.
Braveheart
May 3rd, 2009
6:53 pm
Speaking of execution, I’d like to see Bobby try double steals. When Escobar and Chipper were on second and first, respectively, earlier, that time would’ve been good for it. (MILLSAPS)
Double steal with two guys who aren’t very fast? Escobar can’t steal second, but you want him to steal third, which is harder to steal, as the front end of a double steal? And you want a 37 year old who hasn’t really been stealing bases in over 10 years to be the dude at the back end of the double steal? Good grief.
jayveee
May 3rd, 2009
6:54 pm
It’s over. This team has AA offensive talent. No pop anywhere in the lineup. McCann’s future is up in the air. Francouer is batting clean-up. On a good team, he’d be hitting seventh or eighth. I’ve figured out that Kawakami is Japanese for “Batting Practice.” Frank Wren seems to have the reverse Midas touch. He ought to go. Unload the veterans and bring up the kids and let them grow into a franchise that can compete. In the meantime, I want my MLB.com subscription money back!
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
6:57 pm
Seeing Bobby Attempt A Double Steal in a situation Other than a 3-2 Count Ain’t Gonna Happen, ‘”Bank on It”
I have A better Chance of getting struck by lightning that Bobby doing that…
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
6:59 pm
Supes
You’ll get no argument with me. Everyone has the right to vent. It’s the excessive, constant babble that drives me nuts sometimes.
But, I think I am OK now…
Oh what a dose of a healthy Chipper, McCann and Anderson would do for this team!
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
7:02 pm
Not To Bash D.O.B. here but I think He Overrated Jo-Jo Reyes…Even though 2 starts isn’t really gonna measure a season, Jo-Jo has not changed much from last year. Granted he looked good in S. Training, but hell he was going against B-Squad lineups a majority of the time…
Also keep in mind that His offense hasn’t done him any favors…
If he is still pitching like he did in 2008 come the 1st of June, Send his Carcas down and Bring up Hanson…We Can’t wait half of the season to regain his Promise/dominance he showed in S. Training…
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
7:03 pm
I don’t agree with everything you typed, Ronald Millsaps, but your post should be a beacon for those who don’t know how to question things without insipidity.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
7:06 pm
Supes
Yeah, I definately know my Fox News Babes….Lol. :>P
brent a.
May 3rd, 2009
7:09 pm
Try to survive until the McCann returns. Then, please let’s trade for some additional offense.
The Braves have become boring, and predictable, and also, not very good.
CB
May 3rd, 2009
7:25 pm
I am in total agreement with Wayne about some of the negativity that comes across during the games that drive away some of fans who like to read. I hate it when the Braves are not playing well,but I and most of the bloggers are not experts. I just shake my head when I see some of the trades that are proposed like the other teams are all idiots and will listen to that! If you don’t know anything about the game read some of the posts from people like nolie, nc scoots. I’ve seen more wisdom from these guys in one post than a thousand of you experts.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
7:28 pm
Matt Harrison is pitching tonight on ESPN
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
7:33 pm
Hey
Anyone remember this, and how fans around MLB thought Chipper was talking smack about A-Rod?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08092007/sports/yankees/chipper_shocker_yankees_michael_morrissey.htm
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
7:36 pm
And for those who might care…….Phillips just said Andruw is in the line-up for the Rangers tonight against the W. Sox on ESPN.
MASTER J
May 3rd, 2009
7:40 pm
THE BRAVES NEED MORE OFFENSE THEY WILL NEVER BE MORE THAN A 500 TEAM UNTIL THEY GET STARTING CALIBER PLAYERS AT 2ND,1ST AND LEFT FIELD.KELLY IS GARBAGE AT 2ND,DIAZ HAS COST US 2 GAMES IN LEFT,AND KOTCHMAN HAS NO POWER AT ALL.ITS GOING TO BE A LONG SUMMER.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
7:40 pm
Some comments from Chipper about Schafer’s struggle today with men in scoring position. And it wasn’t like he was calling him out unprompted. I asked him whether pitchers were preying on his inexperience:
“Guys up here, they’re not stupid,” Jones said. “They watch and they know how to scout hitters and they have found his hole. And his hole is just above the hands, middle up, and he’s having a hard time catching up to it. Until he shortens up and puts the ball in play more consistently, he’s going to continue to struggle. We’ve been trying to tell him that. When he puts the ball in play, he’s got a really good average. It’s just the strikeout, and the timing of the strikeouts. They’re times when he absolutely has to put the ball in play and let his God-given talent, help him. His swing is a little long right now. Hopefully we can shorten it up during the course of the summer and help him to succeed more often.”
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
7:41 pm
And also I’ve read at least 2 people on here mouth off about Chipper being hurt. If either of you bothered to want to know what happened, they said in the post game they’d tell us why he came out. I don’t usually watch the post game shows, but I wanted to find out. And he’s not hurt, he just got taken out for a double switch, Kelly came into the game after he hit and Soriano came into pitch. If he were hurt there would have been an article about it by now. sheesh.
Carroll Rogers
May 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
DOB is picking it back up for the Mets tomorrow…..By the way, the Braves went 8-1 against the Mets last year at Turner Field, as you may well know….
I gotta hit the road before another big wave of nastiness rolls through here. But so happy we had no interruptions during the game….It was a 3 hour and 18 minute game without any weather issues. Good grief!
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
7:44 pm
Jayveee McCann’s future is up in the air.
Please don’t say things like that…
MariettaDerek
May 3rd, 2009
7:47 pm
That game was definitely NOT double pits to chesty.
flange1
May 3rd, 2009
7:52 pm
Evening All,
Some random thoughts (well my thoughts, not Randoms’s and kind of off the wall!)
- JoJo piched well. The arm i there, the head is getting there. If he keeps this up, he ill be a real pitcher.
- REALY surprised by GA rejecting the suggestion to rehab at Gwinnett. Can think of n logical reason NOT to rehab. He better hit coming off the DL or DFA is in his future.
Coach, GREAT news that the Rays have successfully stolen 298575 or 298576 bases!!! STEALS ARE GREAT! What place are the Rays in? LAST???? I guess speed is it right?
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
Derek
PLEASE….no more!!!!!!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
7:55 pm
The plane that was to have flown the Mets from Philadelphia to Atlanta following the postponement was scheduled to take off at 3:30 p.m. ET. But it was damaged as it was being towed to where it could be loaded. A part of the towing truck snapped off and pierced the fuselage. The flight was postponed until about 5 p.m
I hope no one got hurt, but other than that a tired Mets club is fine with me. They probably won’t be that tired but anytime you get delayed, it’s not fun.
Rodney Derrick
May 3rd, 2009
7:55 pm
Carroll, thanks for the perspective on Chipper and Schafer
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
7:57 pm
McFann, saw a baby turtle on my run this afternoon. He was about the size of a silver dollar. Very cute.
Tom O'Hawke
May 3rd, 2009
8:00 pm
I gotta hit the road before another big wave of nastiness rolls through here. But so happy we had no interruptions during the game….It was a 3 hour and 18 minute game without any weather issues. Good grief! — Carroll
I swear, when I read Carroll’s first sentence, I thought she was talking about the blog. Ha,ha, it made sense!
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
8:01 pm
Anyone remember this, and how fans around MLB thought Chipper was talking smack about A-Rod?
Chipper probably already knew, wouldn’t you think? He’s known the guy since he was in high school so I’d be shocked if he hadn’t heard rumors about him using in 2007.
Thanks for the work today, Carroll. No offense but I’m glad to hear DOB will be back for the Mets series since his won loss record is better than yours LOL.
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
8:02 pm
Run Heap Run–
Aw! How cute! I love baby turtles!
My brother and Daddy found an adult turtle yesterday…but it was gone by the time my sister, Mommy, and I got home.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:02 pm
You now even though ESPN sucks sometimes I kinda rather get the game from ESPN tomorrow. I guess just so I can hear all the bad stuff and either agree or disagree..lol. But we are playing the Mets.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:04 pm
Run Heap Run
Yeah I was googling something and came upon that and I just remember the media backlash and then 2 yrs later guess what….
Ronald Millsaps
May 3rd, 2009
8:07 pm
“braveheart”–I stand by my comment. Neither Escobar nor Chipper is fast, but both have reasonable speed, and you miss the point: It’s about time to put pressure on defenses instead of leaving runners out there, putting no pressure on defenses, and putting more pressure on hitters.
To supplement an earlier point, if you have players where they’re supposed to be in the lineup, their at-bats can have residual good effects on the rest of the lineup. Having so much as one guy out of place does just the opposite. There will be residual effects either way, with the only question being, “What kind?”
Look at the Phillies: They have a lot of productive outs, and a fly-ball to right by Shane Victorino is as much a part of that offensive chemistry than a three-run blast by Ryan Howard.
Also, go with the hot hand. If a player is swinging a red-hot bat, don’t bench him, and don’t ask him to bunt.
Keep Infante at leadoff and Francoeur at cleanup, and move Johnson to “eight.” Trust me; this approach is our best bet. After Francoeur’s best game of the year Friday night–his first game at cleanup, he immediately is moved to “five” on Saturday. We cannot continue to predicate everything on R-L matchups and expect to win.
Braveheart
May 3rd, 2009
8:08 pm
Not To Bash D.O.B. here but I think He Overrated Jo-Jo Reyes (TOMAHAWKIN)
DOB can defend himself, but I can’t remember a time since about mid-August 2007 where DOB has ever ranked JoJo as anything other than what he is.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:10 pm
Dear God…..anyone want to see a former Brave tune into ESPN
Rangers vs. White Sox
Betemit, Corky, Lillibridge, Harrison, Andruw, and Andrus are all playing….all they are missing is some SALT.
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
8:18 pm
Bravos2249 I kinda rather get the game from ESPN tomorrow.
Yeah…having the National media talk about how great the other team is isn’t quite as bad as when our own announcer gushes over our opponent ([cough cough]…Chip…[cough cough]…)
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
8:19 pm
bravos2249
I’m hoping the Rangers win that AL West. Someone OTHER than the damn Angels.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
8:22 pm
OMG….Andruw’s hitting in the 4th spot.
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
8:23 pm
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it yet, but Morton had 10 strikeouts while allowing one run in seven innings today … and lost. The scoring-challenged (to say the least) G-Braves lost 1-0 at Pawtucket.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:24 pm
Ian Kinsler is one heck on a hitter…too bad we don’t have a 2nd baseman that good.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
8:27 pm
bravos2249
Oh..don’t forget Kevin Millwood..(Lol)
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
8:28 pm
Bravos2249, I was thinking same thing watching this game. Expat Braves Day in Arlington.
By the way, Salty had a homer and three RBI on opening day. Since that game, he’s hit .263 with one homer, five RBI, three walks and 20 strikeouts in 57 at-bats, with a .300 OBP and .386 slugging percentage.
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
8:31 pm
Braveheart, I’m not quite sure what’s gotten into Tomahawkin’ lately. Couple days ago, he accused me of overhyping these Braves as a “pennant-winning contender,” I think is how he put it. When, in fact, I picked the Mets to win the division and the Phillies to beat out the Braves for the wild card.
As for Jo-Jo, Tomahawkin’, please remind me where and when I overrated him. I’m curious. Before his winless streak began last summer, I’m sure I said it was too early to judge him, that he had plenty of talent, etc. But when did I “overrate” him?
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
8:31 pm
.333 from Andruw so far….not bad……altho he grounded out in his first AB.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:34 pm
SO I’m guessing the glasses BMac is getting look like betemit’s
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
8:35 pm
Kotsay played for Pawtucket today, went 0-for-2 against Charlie. (Kots is on rehab assignment, coming back from January back surgery)
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
8:38 pm
Huh…how has Betemit worn glasses?
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
8:38 pm
Thanks for the update on Kotsay, Chief! I’ve been meaning to check on his stats…
Braveheart
May 3rd, 2009
8:39 pm
Why would you want Omar hitting leadoff everyday? Is it the .306 OBP for his career? The sub .700 OPS for his career? The .338 OBP last season while benefitting from limited exposure?
You guys understand that hitting leadoff means you get the most plate appearances on the team right? About 140 more plate appearances than the guy batting 8th?
But you want KJ hitting 8th, getting 140 less plate appearances than Omar, even though KJ has a career .792 OPS and Omar has a .698 career OPS?
Omar Infante, leading off for his career: .249 AVG, .287 OBP, .383 SLG, .671 OPS with 44 runs scored in 417 PAs
Kelly Johnson, leading off for his career: .263 AVG, .354 OBP, .440 SLG, .794 OPS with 82 runs scored in 577 PAs
Omar Infante, hitting 8th for his career: .286, .318, .442, .760 in 393 PAs
Kelly Johnson, hitting 8th for his career: .326, .398, .421, .821 in 110 PAs
Looks like someone really sucks leading off when exposed there for too long, and that he really benefits from being hidden batting 8th, and that someone is not KJ, but Omar
RippleShot
May 3rd, 2009
8:44 pm
I’m so disappointed. The Astros left town and not one player tore his pants exposing a tiny bit of his butt cheek, which surely would have made the crowd laugh at him.
Braveheart
May 3rd, 2009
8:46 pm
I don’t have a problem though with going with the hot hand with Omar right now at leadoff, but Omar starting everyday and leading off everyday is not something that keeps a team in contention all summer
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:51 pm
Braveheart
Let me add something. No matter what I think, I don’t believe Omar will start.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
8:53 pm
Braveheart
Well I had 2 post to you about “1st batter in the Game” stats. But I guess they are gone. Anyway, Kelly and Omar’s stats for their career are about the same when leading off IN JUST the 1st inning.
DownOnTheFarm
May 3rd, 2009
8:54 pm
ARG! We left too many runners on today. We HAVE to get Richie Sexson on this team!
CB
May 3rd, 2009
8:55 pm
Ripple shot meet Marietta derek. You are a marriage made in heaven.
N Nine
May 3rd, 2009
8:57 pm
Did I miss something? Is Richie Sexson the Ryan Freel joke now?
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
8:59 pm
Tom O’Hawke @ the top of the page–
Lew
May 3rd, 2009
9:00 pm
McFann-”How has Betemit worn glasses?” Sorry, but you walked into this one. They hook over the ears and redst on the bridge of the nose.
CarolinaAnn
May 3rd, 2009
9:07 pm
Disappointing game today.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
9:07 pm
Hi Lew, and wherever Wayne is…hi!
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
9:20 pm
I’m just glad the Division games are starting ( at least at more of a pace). Whether we win one or not we’ll move up and down the standings, hopefully not too far down.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
9:23 pm
Dear heavens we have Vazquez, KK, and Reyes going in the Philly series….lets pray for limited wind. Lot of fly balls to be expected.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
9:25 pm
TnBrian
Mr. Brooks is a pretty good flick.
Bobby (the movie about Bobby Kennedy and the events leading up to his assassination) is also very good. Demi’s in it too.
Lew
May 3rd, 2009
9:25 pm
TnBrian-Only a little.
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
9:38 pm
I agree with Steve Phillips. Andruw maybe looks like he’s figured it out.
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
9:43 pm
D.O.B.
Your S. Training Observations on Jo-Jo Are obviously More Acute, given that you’ve been around Jo-Jo, Coaches, Staff, etc. Since the start…Maybe I’m jumping the gun early but we need him to Produce Now Especially in this division. I’m Not bashing him because literally he gets no run support, but It seems like this has happened in everyone of his starts dating back to Mid-2008….He starts off well, but by the 5-6 innings The opposing hitters make adjustments to him. He then gets rattled and loses it. The Offense always has to play the catchup game while the blow-pen rubs salt in the wound (Like what happened in his start at PNC)…Right Now I do not see Jo-Jo as a different Pitcher during the 2nd/3rd time opposing teams hitters face him…I just don’t see him making counter-adjustments. Maybe his arm strengh isn’t at 100 percent as it would be if this were July, but it always seems like he loses it by the 6th inning…
As well I do remember you picking both the Phils and Braves to square off in a one game playoff for the WC, but as horrible this team has played over the last 2 wees they will be lucky to finish at .500 becuase the scheduld gets harder as we progress into June…
Words can’t even sum up how bad the offense has been even though they are showing some signs of breaking out of it, but until they start executing the little things on offense this offense will continue to struggle. Hitting is contageous and this team (Not one or 2 players but the overall offense) fail time and time again at the little things. So until they get those worked out The Whole Bobby-Ball Offensive mentality (The kind of offense we saw in the first 5 games) needs to be killed, and bring back the ABC style offense which has been missing for years…
There Goes My Vent after Getting Dropped like a bad Habit to the Stros…
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
9:43 pm
Does anyone else think Schafer or maybe Kotchman should be tried in the 2 spot?
Frank from KS
May 3rd, 2009
9:47 pm
bravos2249
Almost everyone on the blog has been clamoring for Schafer to be put into the lead-off position. Kotchman, maybe…but I see him as being down in the order-type.
Why the #2 spot for Schafer?
McFann Ô
May 3rd, 2009
9:47 pm
Lew–
Haha! Yeah, guess I had that one comin’!
Must notta been wearing mine when I typed that.
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
9:47 pm
Oh Yeah And After We See KamaKaze fare Against the Phillies…We will see if we got our version of Hideki I-Rob-U or if Kamakaze Is The Truth…
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
9:51 pm
“Does anyone else think Schafer or maybe Kotchman should be tried in the 2 spot?”
bravos2249, I think the lineup discussion is a lot of fun (really – gives us all a chance to express our knowledge or opinions on how the game should be played, and to show off our ability to chase down statistics) – but the fact is, nobody is hitting consistently and (especially) nobody is hitting for power. Until that changes, it’s really a “deck chairs on the Titanic” type of thing.
Tomahawkin
May 3rd, 2009
9:51 pm
Braves2249…
I thought About Kotchman as #2 for a second but I’t can’t happen because
He’s a good contact hitter w/o a lot of power and he’s Slow As Shyt! With Bobby C’s Lack of desire to call steals or the hit and run Kotch will be more prone to hit into Double plays
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
9:51 pm
bravos2249, here’s the thing though. Everybody gets on escobar for not being a good 2 hole hitter because hits into lot of double plays. You think Kotchman is going to find some speed from somewhere to prevent that from happening to him as well? I agree that his approach is much like a 2 hitter but his speed prevents hiim from being there I think.
PWHjort
May 3rd, 2009
9:52 pm
I think Kotchman could be a good #2 hitter.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
9:53 pm
well glad we all agree on that
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
9:53 pm
nevermind PWHjort wants to dispute that
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
9:59 pm
But I will add this: Escobar is last in the league in pitches seen per plate appearance (in other words least patient), and 4th to last in the league in GB/FB ratio (meaning he hits the ball on the ground a lot).
I’m not sure that’s a good combination for a #2 hitter, so some kinda change would be fine by me.
Jeff "Goo" Bennett
May 3rd, 2009
9:59 pm
My ERA is looking fine. Looks like a big raise next year. Too bad about the chumps that pitch ahead of me. What’s a few inherited runners scoring among friends.
I am striving to be the next Blaine Boyer or Homerun Manny Acosta.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
10:00 pm
Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it yet, but Morton had 10 strikeouts while allowing one run in seven innings today … and lost. The scoring-challenged (to say the least) G-Braves lost 1-0 at Pawtucket.
Hey, just like the big boys!
It’s good to see Andruw making a real go of his comeback. Letting Andruw get away is to me what trading Josh Anderson is to others here lol.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
10:02 pm
Frank
Aside from Schafer’s obvious hole in his swing putting a rookie in front of Chipper certainly wouldn’t hurt him. I’ve seen Rasmus ahead of Pujols and Elvis Andrus hitting 2nd (I think he came up last year but he’s only 20). Basically I think him hitting 2nd will 1) not put pressure on him as lead off would and 2) give him pitches to hit.
cabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:04 pm
Greetings all…just rolled in from my 4 hour drive home from Vegas that took 7 hours, cracked open my first beer of the evening and thought I’d check to see what I missed. (Not much, apparently)
For the record, Tom O’Hawke and N Nine, I never said I had “sexy” blue eyes, just that they were blue (they are, I promise
)
DAP
May 3rd, 2009
10:04 pm
how about andruw jones? hes batting cleanup tonight, playing left field, and has a season line of .342/.510/.737 …. are you kidding me? how badly do we need that kid of hitting out of LF?
PWHjort
May 3rd, 2009
10:05 pm
Escobar needs to bat towards the bottom of the order or leadoff so we can minimize the crucial double plays in front of our run producers.
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
10:05 pm
Jon Miller said, “Terrible throw by Corky Miller.”
Also, Elvis Andrus has looked good this game.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:06 pm
mbatl, where you get the leaders on gb/fb ratio?
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
10:09 pm
What do you peoples think about signing andruw next year as a stop gag for Heyward? Andruw would like to be back in the ATL and you know he would bring in fans so that money could pay for his salary, assuming it is low reasonalby low. If he can produce for a full year like he has done in April then I say give the dude a shot again.
You people hear the new hed pe song renegade? Give it a chance, its about the toughness the Braves should be having going into their next few games with the NL east. Chorus- See me, Im still standing, I might be bleeding, but Im still breathing…
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
10:09 pm
Hey someone remind me who the broadcasters on PTV games are?
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:11 pm
PTV is Chip and Joe right?
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
10:11 pm
PWHjort saw you on the online mlbtr live chat. I submit a ton of questions but guess they didnt compare to yours.
brewdawg
May 3rd, 2009
10:12 pm
This is not a good lineup, Mac or no Mac. It won’t happen, but I say let’s bring up Freeman and Hewyard (Trade Kotchman). I know, it’s not the most well thought out idea, but this lineup isn’t getting it done.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
10:13 pm
I can’t keep it straight, vabraves lol I know Chip and Joe and Joe and Boog but I can’t keep up with who is on what channel.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:14 pm
brewdawg not going to happen and a little premature. We already have one young rookie going through growing pains. You really want possibly 3 of them going through the same thing?
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
10:14 pm
One more thing, can someone close to the Braves, DOB or Rogers, please tell Chipper to tell yunel to TAKE SOME PITCHES AT THE PLATE. Does he have any idea how much a hitter’s count could make him even better??? Man that’s frustrating.
Great job of Chipper kind of calling out schafer after swinging with such a long swing. Way to go hitting coach, I bet TP was like dang Why didn’t I think to tell the kid that?
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:15 pm
Joe and Boog do the majority of the games on Sports South. I think PTV only has like 20 games.
Pete
May 3rd, 2009
10:15 pm
AR Brave: “What do you peoples think about signing andruw next year as a stop gag for Heyward? Andruw would like to be back in the ATL and you know he would bring in fans so that money could pay for his salary, assuming it is low reasonalby low.”
I think right now Id LOVE whatever it is youre smoking!
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
10:18 pm
Thanks vabraves, it is Chip and Joe on PTV, I finally found it online.
Richie Sexson
May 3rd, 2009
10:18 pm
I should be on this team.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:19 pm
I’m sure DOB will get right on telling Chipper to tell Yunel to take pitches. haha I bet it will be the first thing out of DOB’s mouth when he rolls into clubhouse tomorrow just for you.
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
10:19 pm
Pete
You say this because he will expect a high salary or because we don’t want/need him back. Help me out with your witty comment.
Random
May 3rd, 2009
10:20 pm
TnBrian (3:59 pm): “I will be convinced that TP is not doing his job if Schafer K’s here. Boog just said that they’ll likely bust him in, so we’ll see.”
TnBrian (4:00 pm): “I’m fully convinced now.”
Chipper Jones: “Guys up here, they’re not stupid. They watch and they know how to scout hitters and they have found his hole. And his hole is just above the hands, middle up, and he’s having a hard time catching up to it. Until he shortens up and puts the ball in play more consistently, he’s going to continue to struggle. We’ve been trying to tell him that. When he puts the ball in play, he’s got a really good average. It’s just the strikeout, and the timing of the strikeouts. There’re times when he absolutely has to put the ball in play and let his God-given talent, help him. His swing is a little long right now. Hopefully we can shorten it up during the course of the summer and help him to succeed more often.”
Still convinced?
AR Brave
May 3rd, 2009
10:23 pm
VA braves and run heap run
surely you understand frustrated sarcasm.
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
10:23 pm
vabravesfan, I’ve tried twice to post a specific link to the GB/FB stats, but am having my posts “eaten.” First time that’s happened to me… anyway, it’s from baseballreference.com. They’ve got a ton of new stats, but you have to poke around a bit to find them.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
10:26 pm
But it was still funny to imagine DOB rolling up in the clubhouse saying “Yo Hoss, why don’t you tell your boy Yunel how to swing a bat?” Because….yeah…..LOL.
Pete
May 3rd, 2009
10:26 pm
AR Brave:
“Pete
You say this because he will expect a high salary or because we don’t want/need him back.”
We dont want/need him back.
brewdawg
May 3rd, 2009
10:28 pm
Vabravesfan,
I’m well aware it’s not going to happen, but I’d rather watch some growing pains over what’s happening right now. I’m just frustrated with this current lineup.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:31 pm
mbatl, that is what I was looking at to see individual stats but can’t find league leaders for that stat
PWHjort
May 3rd, 2009
10:33 pm
Patrick from NPBTracker:
Nikkan Sports has a piece saying that Kawakami’s shoulder is okay. He played catch with a trainer and said he’s still a little concerned, but feeling okay. It does not appear that a doctor has looked at it, based on this article.
http://www.nikkansports.com/baseball/mlb/news/f-bb-tp2-20090502-489741.html
mbatl
May 3rd, 2009
10:38 pm
vabravesfan, from the br home page, go to “Bat” under the NL Stats link. From there, notice the “Batting” menu heading, and go to Batting Ratios. In all cases, it lists team stats first, and then if you scroll down, you’ll find individual stats and can sort them by category. That’s about as much as I can give you… good luck.
frank wren
May 3rd, 2009
10:44 pm
As I watch the espn game I find myself wishing we would have given # 25 a shot for the league min
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
10:45 pm
mbatl appreciate it. What I don’t understand is that when Yunel is going well he hits line drives everywhere but seems like even last year that all the groundballs over-ride all that.
Chino Cadahia
May 3rd, 2009
10:48 pm
Chino Fact Time: I’d beat up the Doobie Brothers if I had the chance.
braves70
May 3rd, 2009
10:56 pm
As I watch the ESPN game, I count a total of 10 players on both teams combined that were once property of the Braves. And what do we have to show for it? Nada, or next to Nada.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:00 pm
braves70
10?
Betemit
Lilibridge
Corky
Dye
Harrison
who am i missing? i only have 8.
Jones
Andrus
Salty
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:01 pm
I counted 11 braves70. We got Javy, Logan, Kotchman to show for it. You win some trades and you lose some. I personally think that Wren has made some awesome trades and decisions so far.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:01 pm
Oh
Millwood and Ramirez
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:01 pm
harrison
wise
max ramirez(wickman trade)
McCannCan
May 3rd, 2009
11:02 pm
NC- I think you’re right. Diory is clearly a better 2b prospect that TJones.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:02 pm
okay that makes 12 then
braves70
May 3rd, 2009
11:02 pm
You are correct vabravesfan, I forgot Max Ramirez in my list.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:03 pm
that makes 12 then
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:03 pm
eating my posts then posting them later real sweet
Chop Chop
May 3rd, 2009
11:07 pm
Beware of a plot twist in Breaking Bad.
That’s all I’m saying.
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm
I just wanted to check to see what was going on on the Mets board…on the official site. And some weird guy who apparently stalks the team, finds the times their plane lands and departs all the time.
Anyway according to him they got to ATL like either 2 hours ago or half an hour ago. Either way, d@mn that’s a long delay. Hopefully we can take advantage of this little issue.
Il Cattivo
May 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm
Octavio Dotel was also a member of the Braves (though he spent most of the time on the DL). This is probably going to start a debate on whether we gave up too early on Kyle Davies. Oh well…
Jeff321
May 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm
Octavio Dotel also pitched for the Braves.
vabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
and they keep coming
Supes
May 3rd, 2009
11:10 pm
Is the state in baseball catching that bad…that the waste of oxygen and roster spot Corky Miller have a job with the White Sox?
Like many have said…you can have an “ex” Braves Team from the players in the game tonight for both teams on ESPN sunday night baseball
Matt Harrison SP /Kevin Millwood SP
Corky Miller C/ Salty C
Wilson Betemit 1B
Brent Lillbridge SS/2B/CF
Elvis Andrus SS
Andruw Jones LF/CF
Jermayne Dye RF
What do the Braves have to show for it…Casey Kotchman:LMAO: Gotta love that:)
Hey…gotta beat the Mets tomorrow and tuesday. No Johan. Our inept offense has to step up. Beat the Mets!
Supes
May 3rd, 2009
11:11 pm
Yes…Dotel as Closer, former Brave as well:)
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:17 pm
The only 3 that could be considered a mistake are Andrus, Dye and maybe Harrison. Wren really did pick up JS after the TEX trade when we got Jair though, and with the pitchers we have in the bigs/ DL now and in the minors there really was no place for ALL of the Minor League pitchers. IMO if Harrison finally clicks he’d be like Jair so it’s not that big of a deal, in terms of giving him up. Now could he have brought in better/ talent that would’ve stayed longer, probably, but maybes don’t make a baseball team. With Andrus being young there was no sense in really trading him, but his hitting wasn’t to hot. But btw him and Yunel one of them could’ve moved to 3rd or 2nd later on down the road.
cabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:26 pm
Is CSI:Miami the most ridiculus show on TV, or is it just me?
DownOnTheFarm
May 3rd, 2009
11:30 pm
Braves 2011:
CF – Shafer
LF – Heyward
RF – Frenchy
C – McCann
3B – Chipper
1B – R Sexson
SS- Escobar
2B – TJones
PWHjort
May 3rd, 2009
11:32 pm
We’re still doing the Sexson thing? I thought that died out with double pits to chesty.
Run Heap Run
May 3rd, 2009
11:32 pm
I got a kick out of GQ’s 2009 All Wacko Team – http://i39.tinypic.com/2ai20jo.jpg
(Click for full size)
frank wren
May 3rd, 2009
11:39 pm
Sexson sucks and I’m not signing him.
cabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:39 pm
PWHjort-
Unfortunately I dont think we have seen the end of either…
Seriously, what made some people think that Richie Sexson was a viable option?
frank wren
May 3rd, 2009
11:41 pm
I’m thinkin about signing the big cat or the crime dog to a one year deal
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
11:44 pm
Breaking Bad … what a superb show. Great episode tonight.
cabravesfan: I haven’t watched CSI:Miami in many years, but it was certainly absurd back when I did watch on a semi-regular basis.
I prefer to watch this rather than the actual show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948
David O'Brien
May 3rd, 2009
11:46 pm
Cubs today had a ceremony to retire No. 31, worn by both Ferguson Jenkins and our boy Mad Dog.
Greg and Fergie were both there for the presentation on the field before the game. Very cool.
?????
May 3rd, 2009
11:47 pm
What happened to katie temple on SS?
bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:49 pm
Katie now works for CSS. She sometimes appears on Sports Nite. I think tomorrow she’s doing an interview with Schafer.
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
11:49 pm
Random, yes, I’m still fully convinced that TP isn’t the best teacher. How? Simple, look at guys like Francoeur and Andruw that have done so much better under the guidence of the Tex. h.c. Mac and Chipper are the two best, most disciplined hitters on the team, and they’ve come out public saying their dads pick up mistakes or the flaws in their swings.
cabravesfan, yeah, I think CSI Miami sucks too!
oldschool
May 3rd, 2009
11:52 pm
Dob do you get the feeling that Chipper is very pissed about not getting a right handed power hitter
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
11:52 pm
Will it ever stop raining? Good Lord, I think it’s supposed to rain most of the week again.
cabravesfan
May 3rd, 2009
11:55 pm
DOB-
not sure what made me laugh harder, the sunglasses, the screaming song intro, or David Caruso’s horrid overacting…thanks for sharing!
And I am now forced to question my own sanity because I actually watch that show on a regular basis, fully aware that it is awful
TnBrian
May 3rd, 2009
11:58 pm
Now DOB, did you like The Wrestler for its storyline, or Marisa Tomei’s naked strip dances? She’s definitely in shape. Liked the movie but the ending was a bummer…kinda. Wonder if he just died right there in the ring or what.
Wayne in Utah
May 3rd, 2009
11:59 pm
I am not much on TV shows, but I have always been a 24 fan. I love the guy Law & Order, Criminal Intent. Reminds me of Columbo, for the older folks on the blog.
But, what I really get into is Diners, Drive-ins and Dives!
Styx
May 4th, 2009
12:00 am
Just give me those long nights, impossible odds
Keeping my eye on the key hole
Give me those long nights, impossible odds
‘Cause I wanna be a blue-collar, I wanna be a
blue-collar man
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
12:02 am
cabravesfan: nothing wrong with a guilty pleasure. most of us have them (whether we’ll admit them here or not).
I used to watch the freakin’ O.C. Granted, I watched it with my then-wife, but nevertheless I watched it. And really enjoyed watching it. And it was far from high-quality television drama.
The show outlasted our marriage by about a year.
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
12:05 am
TnBrian: The Wrestler was a terrific movie with a performance-of-a-lifetime by Mickey Rourke. As for Marissa Tomei … she sure didn’t detract from the movie, did she? Wow. Gorgeous, and I thought she was great in that role, too.
Mark Texiera is hitting .182
May 4th, 2009
12:06 am
Which means he would be hitting .162 if TP was coaching him.
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
12:06 am
Never watched the OC- I knew way too many girls that were like that in real life, didn’t need to see it on TV (plus, always thought it gave a faulty image of us SoCal kids- we are not all like that
)
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
12:08 am
DOB re: your 11:46 p.m.
That was pretty cool.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
12:11 am
I remember watching a documentary on Jake”the snake”Roberts about, I’d say, 8 or 10 years ago and The Wrestler kinda reminds me of that. He was a strung out wrestler doing wrestling shows in old gym’s and had a daughter that he never really knew. Just thought it compared to the movie a little.
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
12:13 am
TnBrian
Wasn’t Elizabeth Berkley of Saved By The Bell/Showgirls fame on CSI Miami?
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
12:14 am
And yeah, Marisa Tomei has a heck of a body. My girlfriend didn’t like the nude scenes but really liked the movie otherwise. After my movie, she made me sit through an hour and a half of Bride Wars.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
12:17 am
Frank, yes. She was on a few episodes and I think she was dating Haracio or something. You know, Heracio was on the first Rambo.
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
12:18 am
Frank from KS-
Yes Elizabeth Berkley was on CSI Miami…thinking that doesn’t help the credibility of the show (or my sanity) much
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
12:19 am
She played Haracio’s crazy, druggy ex-girlfriend and mother of his kid
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
12:22 am
CaBravesFan…I know Many Broads that get off seeing O.C. Drama played out in real life at College Parties
I usually shy away from it and Laugh my A..s off at the dudes who want to do something so stupid as “Fighting over a Woman” is…I will never go out like that…
The O.C. was Good Shyt in the First 2 seasons, then It got Way Too Commercial…
When Pop-Tart Garbage Stars such as Chris Brown gets roles on a Show that usually means a show is headed for the toilet…
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
12:26 am
Tomahawkin, sadly, it was in high school…and it was more along the selfish, spoiled, self-centered rich girls then the party parts of it
Daybed Wagmoe
May 4th, 2009
12:26 am
DOB — just watched “Tell No One,” a movie you suggested months back on the blog here. Great stuff, suspenseful and great twists and everything. Thanks for the rec.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
12:30 am
TnBrian, the ending of the “Wrestler” is meant for the viewer to interpret. I think he dies in the ring which makes the movie even more appropriate considering how many professional wrestlers that have died so young.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
12:35 am
Is there a team in MLB that the 25 stooges can beat?
PWHjort
May 4th, 2009
12:45 am
Braves are currently still last in baserunning and have dropped to 29th in defensive efficiency. We really love giving teams free outs.
bravos2249
May 4th, 2009
12:46 am
if you add coaches it’s more than 25
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
12:48 am
Braves need to release GA tonight………..he aint going to produce here…………he doesnt want to.
young and dumb
May 4th, 2009
12:49 am
“Braves need to release GA tonight………..he aint going to produce here…………he doesnt want to.”
Actually, it seems as though GA would rather produce here than in Gwinett
DownOnTheFarm
May 4th, 2009
12:51 am
yes. release GA and sign Richie Sexson!
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
12:51 am
Thank god we can still say……..”but its early”……………cant we???
Well………..its not that early anymore. Its starting to look like its not going to be easy to fix this years woes.
Run heap run
May 4th, 2009
12:54 am
Whether ram dies in the end or not isnt really the point. He takes a leap, both figuratively and literally and he doesnt really care if it kills him. He looks up, pam is gone, his daughter is done, hes surrounded by fans cheering his name doing what he loves most one more time. Even if it kills him.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
12:56 am
just watched “Tell No One,” a movie you suggested months back on the blog here. Great stuff, suspenseful and great twists and everything. Thanks for the rec (DAYBED)
That was from a book written by Harlan Coben. If you are a reader , he has written a lot of books, most all of them pretty good. He has a series (I love series) about a sports agent turned detective that ain’t bad.
Also for anybody interested there is a site called ABEBOOKS.Com. It is a meeting place for thousands of small book stores all over the world. They have an incredible collection of both paperbacks and hardbacks and used school texts too. I buy quite regularly over the last 5 years and have only had one bad transaction out of literally hundreds. Can often pick up a used hardback in very good condition for $10 or less including shipping. That’s as cheap as many new paperbacks and HBs hold up way better while reading and when stored. Check it out if you are a reader.
PWHjort
May 4th, 2009
1:01 am
Maybe this is a dumb question or I’m dense, but I’m correct in my assumption that the Richie Sexson thing is a joke, right?
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
1:02 am
CABravessFan…”and it was more along the selfish, spoiled, self-centered rich girls”
I can’t speak for what it’s like being in Georgia since I just moved back down here after a 12 year Hiatus;, but the same goes for most areas of the conservative South…
Chicks are just straight up Scandalous, “She So Scandolous”
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
1:04 am
The Richie Sexson thing is serious…There Was Also Word of Mouth of going after Mike Hessman and Craig Wilson (Sarcasm)…
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
1:04 am
cabravesfan re: your 12:18 a.m.
Have you met vabravesfan? ;>) (Lol)
Anyways….yeah, I agree that Liz isn’t much of an actress but I did like Showgirls. Gina Gershon was (and is) the better actress and could rock my world ANYDAY. :>)
Run heap run
May 4th, 2009
1:05 am
Harlan coben is good and i read tell no one long ago. Didnt know there was a movie.
I will def chk that wwbsite, always looking for textbook deals.
Ronald Millsaps
May 4th, 2009
1:07 am
“braveheart”–Omar Infante might not be a true leadoff hitter, but he’s the closest thing we have to one, and I’m more interested in his numbers now than in the past. In other words, I think he’s better now than he has been in the past, and when I say “now”, I’m referring to this era, so I’m including last season.
As for Kelly Johnson, as I said and as has been proven numerous times, he’s absolutely out of place at leadoff, and you’re critiquing my <—– argument all while favoring something that is flat-out disproven?
Thanks for sticking to the topic of baseball, though.
DOB’s right in his earlier assessment of what everyone probably has but wrong in saying there’s nothing wrong with them.
“chop chop”–By the way, thank you.
P.S. Folks, we don’t need to acquire anyone else via trade/free agency. We have the players and just need to use them the right way. Again, put Kelly Johnson in left, and keep him there, and for the millionth time, keep him out of leadoff!!!! Keep Infante there, and let Jordan Schafer try to hit for power. He could be a fine leadoff hitter now, but his swing certainly is too long to call him an ideal guy for the job. As a regular hitter, he could supply some fine numbers, including some surprising power.
P.P.S. I wouldn’t worry too much about who we gave up in the Mark Teixeira trade, as the Braves knew Elvis Andrus and Jarrod Saltalamacchia likely would be backing up Yunel Escobar and Brian McCann, respectively, and not get much playing time anyway.
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
1:08 am
Doc
While I too agree we have some major issues to deal with on the Braves, to say after 24 games, or around 15% of the season, that it is not early, is not really being honest.
It is still early.
That doesn’t mean we will get any better. But, there is always hope. You can’t discount the fact that if we can get McCann back in a reasonable amount of time, and if Garret Anderson is something close to what he was last year, our lineup could get well in quick order.
Everybody seems to forget the 5-1 start we had. Obviously, the 6-12 record since that time is a sobering wake-up call.
It just seems to me that our rotation and our bullpen are going to be anywhere from OK to good, or very good. Our defense has looked bad so far, but that could turn around, as some of our better defenders have gotten off to a bad start.
The trick is the batting order. Again, while it is easy to rail on Garret Anderson for not going to Gwinnett (I did the same last night), it is just as likely that he will come around and be the 290-15-80 type player we were expecting.
Whaddya think?
nolie
May 4th, 2009
1:09 am
assumption that the Richie Sexson thing is a joke, right? (PW)
either intentionally or unintentionally, it’s a joke
Ronald Millsaps
May 4th, 2009
1:10 am
By the way, the “experts” who say the NL East isn’t that strong need to realize that the records are misleading, as having four quality teams and one underrated team mean that the division’s collective record is going to be hurt by intra-division competition.
April wasn’t the best month for these teams, but there’s a long season ahead, and this division will prove to be the best, I strongly predict. Also, I think you can stick a small asterisk by a lot of what we see in April, as the weather, particularly the wind, has a misleading effect on statistics.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
1:13 am
Doc, you got that right. Nobody want’s to take me seriously when I say this is the slowest Braves team in the 44 year history of their existence in Atlanta. The defense ain’t so hot either.
Good baseball teams are built around pitching, defense and solid fundamental baseball. We have the pitching, which is great. But the rest of the equation isn’t there. This team is in need of some serious re-tooling and it has to start with the coaching staff. Our organization is also in question. This team can’t run, can’t bunt, can’t hit and run, can’t play defense and it is a direct reflection of just how the fundamentals of baseball are not being taught in our minor league system.
Mitchell
May 4th, 2009
1:14 am
I know I should have put this together by now but, it’s official: the Braves are worse than the Hawks.
We simply cannot play the Mets the way we played the last two games. They don’t deserve it. Maybe they’ll help us break out of it cause we always beat them. I have no reason to say that and it almost pains me to after watching or not watching the Braves lose that series.
That was abysmal. They are worse than the Hawks. I’m not going to watch if they play the lowly Mets the way they’ve been playing basically since the second week of the season.
cabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
1:15 am
Frank in KS-
can’t imagine why you would like Showgirls
(there’s something else I truly wish I had never seen)
nolie
May 4th, 2009
1:15 am
Harlan coben is good and i read tell no one long ago. Didnt know there was a movie. (RHR)
It’s a French movie available either in French with English subs, or English dub whichever appeals most. I’m sure you’ll like it.
PWHjort
May 4th, 2009
1:18 am
Ronald, I disagree. Even when we’re clicking on all cylinders our offense is league average at best. We need to acquire a bat. But feel free to continue drinking the kool-aid.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
1:23 am
Nuttin’ wromg with Kool-Ade.Grape Kool-Ade with vodka is great. It’s like a really potent wine. Sangria is better though. Why doesn’t anybody say keep drinking the Sangria? Damned Rev Jones ruint it 4 all of us.
Necromancer
May 4th, 2009
1:24 am
Speaking of Elizabeth Berkely in Showgirls, my favorite part was the swimming pool scene.
Peter Griffin
May 4th, 2009
1:28 am
I thought Showgirls sucked. Gina Gershon’s cool though.
Necromancer
May 4th, 2009
1:29 am
Yeah, the plot was totally crap…but Berkely and Gershon were totally cool.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
1:30 am
Wayne, when the month of May started, twenty-two of the thirty games we play this month are against teams with losing records. If our Braves cannot finish this thirty game stretch with at least a .500 record, stick a fork in them, they’re done because June is a monster schedule.
Goldie Wilson
May 4th, 2009
1:36 am
Watching “Good Luck Chuck” on Showtime right now. Movie isn’t very good, but Jessica Alba looks phenomenal in it.
NCpete
May 4th, 2009
1:39 am
I think adding Richie Sexson to this team would be a fabulous idea.
Ashley4Lowe
May 4th, 2009
1:40 am
I can’t sleep. Keep thinking about the game. Man, was that disappointing.
Cole W. Slaw
May 4th, 2009
1:41 am
Yeah, Richie Sexson is exactly what this team needs: another guy who can’t hit his weight.
Ashley4Lowe
May 4th, 2009
1:44 am
Wow. James Parr is dreamy.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
1:47 am
Anybody catch the Red Sox / Rays game? Carl Crawford tied a major league record with six steals in one game. The Rays have now swiped an unbelievable 40 out of 46 bags (.870 success rate).
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
1:51 am
Coach
You’ll get no disagreement from me. I agree the team is in trouble. I don’t think the situation is quite as bleak as you would state, but your not far off from being correct. We are slow. What has changed from last year though??? On speed, Schafer is no worse than Blanco, and Kotchman is no worse than Tex (well, maybe not enough to matter), and the myriad of LF’ers last year were probably faster than Diaz has been. So, we are a bit slower.
I still think when we get a few bats back in the lineup, our offense will see some improvement. Will it be enough, I don’t think so, but heck I am an optimist, so I gotta believe there is a chance we can have a shot at getting better.
The defense is puzzling. We are the same as we were last year on the infielder and at catcher. Frenchy is a wash. Schafer has made a few miscues, and we know Diaz is below average in left. To be honest, Blanco and Infante were both unremarkable in the outfield last year.
I think Schafer will get better, and end up being a much better CF’er than anybody we have had since Andruw. Sometimes a team gets in a funk, and it takes a while for them to get out of it. I am hopeful this is what’s happened to the defense, since we really haven’t changed much.
As for the coaching of fundamentals, I think you are onto something. Bobby has never been a great tactician, but he has been a good manager and GM in his career. I wonder who or what has changed that has made our organization substandard on the teaching of fundamentals.
I think it is getting close to my bedtime. I will check back in a few minutes in case you are still online.
BTW, hope you didn’t get too much grief out of the floods earlier this spring. I hadn’t thought to ask earlier, got a lot on my plate these days.
Take care.
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
1:54 am
Ashley
Don’t you have school tomorrow??? Or, do you just hang at the mall all day?
jed
May 4th, 2009
1:56 am
i noticed carroll said she didnt think it was a big deal for a veteran to turn down a minor league rehab. it might not be a big deal if it were a different player, but anderson has spent most all of his time in atlanta not playing. and when he does play, he looks like he couldnt possibly care less. so turning down the rehab does matter, as it seems another example of a guy who’s just phoning it in for the money. i’d bring him back and watch him for the next two weeks. if he keeps dogging it out there, i’d cut him and consider moving KJ to LF. but i bet he’s “re-injured” within 10 days of coming back. **dave or caroll,** yall are around the guy. am i off-base here?
Tennbravefan
May 4th, 2009
1:58 am
ok I’m this desperate for offense…lets sign Frank Thomas to play 1st, Sosa to play RF, put Bonds in LF (he says he’s not retired), and finally Lofton to play CF…he would easily be the fastest on this team. I’m not kidding at all.
Storm Davis
May 4th, 2009
2:01 am
Did you guys catch any of those bad storms that passed through the area Sunday?
Mr. Jalapeno Popper
May 4th, 2009
2:03 am
Can’t get enough of that Brandon Hicks!
DawgFan
May 4th, 2009
2:06 am
Yeah. Tree blew down. Power out. Dog scared.
GregNC
May 4th, 2009
2:08 am
Brandon Hicks huh? How’s he doing?
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
2:12 am
After reading the last Pay-Rod News Release, He is more and More reminding me of Jose Canseco…It seems like the 2 have lived the lives during 2 different Generations (Same Era however)…
It seems like the Debut of J. Canseco was the Beginning of the steroid era and the latest A-Fraud saga might be the ending of it… (R.I.P Steroid era 1985-2010)…
BTW I long for the Slugfests we had daily 10 years ago…Fans come out to see slugfests and 2-1 pitching duels lull fans to sleep, unless it’s a Santana against Linecum type of match-up…
Mr. Jalapeno Popper
May 4th, 2009
2:14 am
Hicks hitting .222 at AA. But 1 HR, 9 RBI, and 5 SBs. He’s gonna be a star.
N8
May 4th, 2009
2:14 am
“Speaking of Elizabeth Berkely in Showgirls, my favorite part was the swimming pool scene.”
Mine was when the show came to an slow but painful end. Some of the absolute WORST acting in the world in that show. The B-rate actors/actresses on Cinemax at 2:00 am, think that was horrible acting.
The rest of the cast of Saved by the Bell was embarrassed for Elizabeth when that came out. That about says it all.
Marty Funkhouser
May 4th, 2009
2:17 am
Yeah, even Screech was embarrassed for Elizabeth Berkley when Showgirls was released.
Marty Funkhouser
May 4th, 2009
2:18 am
Brandon Hicks has struck out 28 times in 72 AB this year. That’s still his problem.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
2:20 am
Wayne, thanks for asking. I’m high and dry. Chipper can no longer be considered an above average defender. He has lost a step and considering his current hand problems we will see more than the normal amount of errors at 3B.
Schafer’s a keeper, He just has to get past his rookie year. Prado is probably the best defender at 2B among KJ, Infante and himself. I myself am surprised at the lack of defense from the team and nobody could have anticipated Brian McCann’s eye problems.
For whatever reason, Bobby Cox has abandoned the running game. It’s especially shocking when considering how proficient the Braves were at running the bases back in the nineties. Something has to change and quick, otherwise, when the dog days of July and August hit….this team is gonna be looking up from the third or fourth spot in the division.
By the way, we are scoring 4.06 runs per game. I won’t go into how long it’s been in comparison to the last time our offense was this bad, you really don’t want to know.
NCpete
May 4th, 2009
2:27 am
.222 for Hicks? Um. That’s not good.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
2:34 am
—Coach—
Enlighten Me on when was the last time the offense has been this bad…! From 2001 to 2005 Bobby C’s lineups always got off to slow starts…Furkey was our leadoff hitter and the offense started to gel once he started heating up about June or so…We have no speed so that kills those thoughts to an extent
Since Furkey left left we 1) Have No one who is capable of stealing bases on a consistant basis 2) Our Fundamentals have gone to the toilet since Game 5 of the 2004 NLDS…3) Ever since 2000 (Other than the stretch where “Hoss” was hurt in 2005 when A. Jones Carried the team, and that was a shock within of itself) We have Lacked A cleanup Hitter than can carry the offense on his back weeks at a time. Tex was brought in 2 do that but we all found out that he isn’t one that can be relied on to be the savior of the offense…
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
2:43 am
Oh yea I believe It was around 10 years ago to this date thatJohn Smoltz Almost threw threw a No-hitter against the Reds at Turner Field…
I believe he gave the 1 hit early in the game, but it was Vintage John Smoltz before he underwent surgery…
nolie
May 4th, 2009
3:33 am
Hicks hitting .222 at AA. But 1 HR, 9 RBI, and 5 SBs. He’s gonna be a star (Jalapeno)
yeah that career 230 BA is really impressive. what a joke that is. He’s more likely to never even get to the bigs than he is to be a star.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
3:37 am
Brandon Hicks has struck out 28 times in 72 AB this year. That’s still his problem. (MARTY)
he problem is that even when he doesn’t K he still can’t get a hit. Guy sux as a hitter so far.Just another guy with nothing but some power that a buncha dopes are going gaga over. He’ll have to make one hell of an improvement to ever amount to anything.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
3:41 am
. Chipper can no longer be considered an above average defender. (Coach)
For crying out loud Coach, get something right at least once. Chipper has never been considered an above average defender by anybody but delusional Braves homers. His first go-round at third many considered him one of the 3-4 worst 3rd sackers in baseball. He has done better this time, but he still ain’t no great shakes. The guy is my favorite player but let’s try to keep it realistic anyway.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
3:54 am
Tomahawkin, the years were 1988-89. The Braves averaged 3.46 and 3.62 runs per game respectively. This 2009 team isn’t even close to being as anemic at scoring but they are definitely the slowest team I have even seen.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
3:56 am
Nolie, tell that to Don Sutton who thinks Chipper deserved the Gold Glove at 3B back in 2007.
Coach (2010 or Bust)
May 4th, 2009
4:21 am
And Nolie, since you opened your mouth and stuck your foot in it, here you go:
Chipper Jones finished right behind Scott Rolen in the gold glove voting back in 1998. So yea, there was a time when Chipper was an above average defender at 3B.
Random
May 4th, 2009
5:22 am
TnBrian (11:49 pm): — You keep changing your story son.
Kenneth Simpson
May 4th, 2009
7:26 am
After watching Elvis Andrus run and field and Harrison pitch in the game last night I realize even more how that trade stinks. The best player in the deal from what I am hearning is still in the minors and they have 3 playing in the majors. How can the braves management sleep at night seeing this and realizing how bad they got stuck. Other teams play their young players but not the braves. On the subject of Anderson the braves needs to ship him to where he came from and bring up Heyward to play left field. I also noticed last night that Andruw was playing left field for Texas and Josh Anderson was playing left field for Detroit. The braves had Anderson and gave him away and could have got Andruw for nothing. I hate to say it but he is better than anyone they got out there right now. I also noticed that Lillabrige was playing with the White Sox. I wish these young players the best for getting out of the braves organization and get the opportunity to play somewhere else since the braves management including Cox don’t have sense enough to play them. I was a big braves fan and attended games and watched them all the time on TV (when they use to be on tv) but with the Tex trade and some of the other bum moves I no longer have any interest in them. Maybe, just maybe they will learn after the farm is depleted which is close I’m sure.
10-80
May 4th, 2009
7:46 am
Anyone know if Braves still do the COllege ID buy 1 get one ticket deal? If so is it for any section? Thanks!
Charlie
May 4th, 2009
7:57 am
The Braves are back to their “lose 2 out of three” routine from last year. It’s early May, and already bad decisions are haunting the Braves. Schafer is not major league ready. His defense is mediore at best. And he’s striking out time after time, with guys in scoring position. Bring back Blanco. For all of Jeff F.’s improvement over last year, he was “2008 Jeff” with the game on the line, his last 2 at bats, swinging away a balls in the dirt, men in scoring position. Big strikeouts We have a team of chokers at the dish. Three days into May, and it’s clear this collection of clowns is done for the season. No way this group even contends for a wildcard. Plain and simple. And Garret Anderson appears to be an over the hill prima donna, a total waste of money. Lousy outfielder, always hurt, but too cool to do a rehab, a few miles away. Not much for class on his end. That kind of a team player should be dumped. Obviously he won’t retire on his own. I think he has a 1 year contract. He’ll be gone next year. What a waste as a signing. No pop in the Braves lineup, and their answer is a over the hill guy who isn’t healthy, and has no power. Great decision, Bobby!
flange1
May 4th, 2009
8:42 am
Morning All,
A few thoughts:
What is the deal with Chipper venting to the media about teammates? He tossed Yunel under the bus, now it’s Schafer. Why is this a good thing to do in 2009 when it is NOT something that Chipper has done for most of his career?
What is the story with GA? I can’t believe that he rejected the idea of a rehab assignment in GWINNETT. It is not like he was “smoking hot” when he went on the DL. Further, I am not sure that he was EVER in game shape coming out of spring training. Hope all the folks that say he can “hop out of bed” and hit are correct. Seems to me he is boxing himself into a corner. If he comes back cold, there will be lots of ‘DUMP GA” posts and comments, and I am not sure that I would disagree.
Kudos to Bobby for changing his lineup. Folks here have been asking for changes, Bobby is listening! I like Frenchy in the 4 spot against lefties, need someone to step up against righties.
Diaz looked better yesterday. Diaz has got to step up especially if GA doesn’t.
I thought Reyes looked good yesterday. He struggled a bit in his last inning, but I thought he did well.
Hope the team plays with some fire with the Mets in town..
JayDubu
May 4th, 2009
8:45 am
JED 1:56am
That’s why you’re on this blog, and not on the Braves staff!
MiltonDawg
May 4th, 2009
9:12 am
Once again bullpen looks horrible, and now clutch hitting!! Every game looks more and more pathetic.
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
9:15 am
Is it too early to tell now on Jo-Jo???? I am getting tired of this Jeckyll and Hyde pitching act. Against one of the hottest teams he goes 7 innings and gives up 1 run, against one of the worst teams he gives up 4 in 5.2 innings. What is going on here? I think its time to bring up Morton if he feels he is healthy enough.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
9:19 am
It is still early.
it is still early, but that6s not even the point to me. i dont care if it was august…here is what is important to me: we are 2.5 games out out first place in the east. thats it. 2.5 games. that means we are a good week away from being 2.5 games UP in first place.
the team has been disappointing, but has hardly played themselves out of it. we get get a fresh start going right here, and do well in this division.
our next ten games are all against division rivals, and we need to play well against them. we could really put the mets in a hole in these nest ten games, and id love to see mccann and anderson come back teeing off on the phillies starters.
PWHjortEven when we’re clicking on all cylinders our offense is league average at best.
how would you know? when is the last time our offense was clicking on all cylinders? i think have heap back will make a HUGE difference, seeing how many of the game weve lost have been extremely close, and we have had situation where one big hit would have won it for sure.
also, looking sexson’s splits last year…he doesnt look to bad. dude hit .325 with a .992 OPS last year against lefties…that aint bad.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
9:26 am
What’s with the blog this morning, when I refresh it won’t show anything after 8:45, but if I go out and come back in it will show the rest of the posts?
Efrim
May 4th, 2009
9:29 am
Braves NL rankings:
Hitting:
7th in batting average(.255)
6th in on base percentage(.342)
11th in slugging percentage(.404)
12th in home runs (19)
Pitching:
6th in ERA (4.04)
5th in Starter’s ERA (3.71)
11th in Reliever’s ERA (4.73)
11th in Opp. Batting average (.260)
3rd in Opp. OPS (.712)
10th in Opp. on base percentage (.337)
3rd in Opp. slugging percentage (.375)
2nd in strikeouts (192)
4th in walks (86)
It’s power. Little bit better bullpen work would help too, which has happened as of late. But it’s mainly power right now. Hitting for extra bases. The Braves lack speed too, but getting on base and hitting for extra bases is still the most efficient way to score runs, and they just haven’t been hitting for power. Adding McCann back into the lineup should help. Hopefully that will be enough.
Efrim
May 4th, 2009
9:31 am
4th in walks is really 12th. Cubs lead the league with 104 base on balls.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
9:33 am
efrim yes. i was thinking that yesterday. we had plenty of guys on, plenty of opportunities to score a bunch of runs together, put up a big inning…but we were getting our runs with sac flys, balks, maybe a single here and there….we need a big extra base hit to kill the other teams spirits and make a big dent in the score board, and just couldnt do it.
we need to get this team’s power stroke going…
rich brave
May 4th, 2009
9:34 am
Nice to see SCHAFER on schedule. I said when in a prescient mood early in the season that blog regulars should relax in regard to a lead-off role for JORDAN. Said that BOBBY would work him in gradually as that’s his style. He only leans on a thin reed when he has no other choice. And that’s one of the reasons he’ll be in the HOF soon. So the work in progress that is SHAFER continues onward and upward. Now about those strikeouts….
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
9:36 am
I really like Infante in the lead off spot, he has been great in that role. Just wonder if Bobby keeps him in there awhile or he tries to go back to Kelly, and if he does go back to Kelly, how long he will let Kelly stink it up before replacing him with Infante again. Kelly might be riding the pine a while though.
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
9:42 am
What is the deal with Chipper venting to the media about teammates? He tossed Yunel under the bus, now it’s Schafer. Why is this a good thing to do in 2009 when it is NOT something that Chipper has done for most of his career?
He wasn’t venting, he was answering a question. Carroll clearly said that he made those comments because she asked him about Schafer’s recent struggles. Chipper always says what he thinks. Would you rather him not answer the questions? Or to give prepared answers?
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
9:44 am
Wayne in Utah,
I think the “its still early” phrase would apply for teams like………phillies, redsox, yankees, cubs, angels……….teams that have shown heart and that winning is their way of life……..that they know how to win. The braves dont fall in that category. That phrase could still be said if this was 2006 and we were coming from a playoff appearance. The truth is that this is 2009, no playoff appearance last 3 seasons and no signs that we are jogging the other way around.
Weak baseball all the way around but SP. No ABC baseball…….none at all. This is not about a cleanup hitter. This is about the lack of stolen bases, the lack of Hit & run, the lack of solid defense. We have absolutely no clutch. WEAK MINDED team. You can almost sense that they know that they are going to lose once the game starts.
Winning is never easy, ever………just blow out (2, 3 all season??) Other wins have been full of tension, because we are not dominating any phase of the game but SP…….. and we and the player know that we are not hitting the HR to tie, go ahead or give insurance late in the game. They and we know that the errors will come……..and they can show up late with the game on the line. This team doesnt know how to manufacture a run.
Of course they can steal a base or they can hit a HR…………but this and other things are so rare………..you can bet it wont happen…….. chances are youll win your bet.
When a team is so predictable, the chances of winning are bad. And I mean predictable about negative stuff………..
1. Schafer on 1st none or 1 out………….you can bet he wont steal………..easy money if you bet.
2.Braves wont hit a HR in the game………..easy money there (you could lose but chances are you will collect your money).
3.Braves will make a fielding error………easy money…………and you can bet double or nothing for them to make 2………..good chances to collect that money also.
4. Bases running mistakes.
5. Inability to advance runners……….. I have forgot how a sac fly looks like.
6. etc etc etc.
Truth is, right now, we are no better than the nats, rockies, pirates, astros, muts, reds, padres or whichever team you want to mention. The feeling always is, hopefully some good happens and we win………… This team has become like one of those persons that are waiting for a miracle to fix their lives.
God said…………help yourself that I would also help you……………..
Braves………..Stop believing that god will do all the work for you.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
9:46 am
Coach (2010 or Bust),
I was also directing to you on my last post.
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
9:48 am
really like Infante in the lead off spot, he has been great in that role. Just wonder if Bobby keeps him in there awhile or he tries to go back to Kelly, and if he does go back to Kelly, how long he will let Kelly stink it up before replacing him with Infante again. Kelly might be riding the pine a while though.
I’m going to be disappointed if he doesn’t stick with the hot bat (Infante) during this week of divisional play. If you don’t put your best option on the field when you’re playing your division then you just don’t care if you win or not. This isn’t the time to coddle players feelings and egos, go with the hot bat and worry about that foolishness later.
bvillebaron
May 4th, 2009
9:49 am
This is typical Bobby Cox. He should know that Kelly Johnson is a streaky hitter and also that he hits left handers better than right handers. I never saw anyone get out of a slump by sitting on the bench or worse yet, platooning. However, Infante is clearly one of Bobby’s boys and you know Bobby’s boys get every opportunity. Johnson is no gold glover at second, but Infante is a lousy fielder. Not giving Schafer, who possesses the best speed on the team, another opportunity to bat leadoff after going 2 for 5 and with an on base percentage of over .400 is mindless. Time for Bobby to wake up or go.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
9:50 am
Looks like Cole Hamels could be starting Friday’s game. Oh well…I still want it to be Friday.
Bret Myers will start on Sunday if my calculating is correct! Hope it is…
njbraves
May 4th, 2009
9:53 am
I am convunced that some of the least knowledgable, dumbest people on Earth, comment on this blog. Some of the comments on the last few pages are laughable. I’m frustrated as hell too, but they’re only 2 1/2 games out of first. Can they at least play 60 games before everyone has a heart attack?
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
9:54 am
You think Infante is “one of Bobby’s boys”? Huh.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
9:57 am
Macon Braves–
I don’t know…it does that a lot.
Eric from MO
May 4th, 2009
9:58 am
Kenneth Simpson, um Lillibridge blows. He sucked for the Braves last year and he is sucking for the White Sox this year. As for you being sure the Braves minor league system beng depleted, they have the 1st or 2nd best farm in the leagues.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
10:00 am
OK, BMac career numbers against Hamels aren’t too bad, but I was kinda hoping for a righty for his first game back.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
10:00 am
Forgot my “apostrophe s” after BMac, dangit.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
10:01 am
“Johnson is no gold glover at second, but Infante is a lousy fielder.” – Bvillebaron
Infante is the best fielder on this team.
DirtyDawg
May 4th, 2009
10:02 am
Hey bvillebaron. Please don’t ’skin-it’ like that. It’s embarrassing. Bobby’s Boy, as you say, is a ball-player…a hellovalot better defensive second-baseman than KJ – it ain’t even close…is delivering in the lead-off spot better than any of the others have (or can). As for Schafer, please, he may be fast but it doesn’t translate into effectiveness at lead-off. What happened the other day while leading-off, as has been pointed out, he struck out three times (the worst thing a lead-off hitter can do) and was picked off one of the times he got on base. He’s not a contact hitter. I mean the fact that he chokes up on the bat doesn’t seem to matter to him – swings way too hard to hope to made good contact consistently and way too many holes in his swing – hell, I know a sixty-year-old that could strike him out.
Eric from MO
May 4th, 2009
10:03 am
Cant Infante play CF too. I know you probably dont want him as an everyday CF but it would be a way to get Infante in another game every week.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
10:08 am
njbraves,
The only reason we are 2.5 GB is because the leader of the pack is playing horrible baseball. And that is not the real problem, but the fact we are playing losing baseball (11-13, in case you didnt know) and you dont need to be a baseball genius to know that at as we speak, the is no light at the end of the tunnel. Things could change……..of course…….we could become champions……….but the way we are playing…………there is no chance we play .500 baseball………….you should agree with that. This team is weak………mentally, executing baseball fundamentals, hitting HR, fielding and bridging the game from the starter to the setupman. Not to mention that setup man have looked shake more often than not.
Some Blogs Crack Wise
May 4th, 2009
10:09 am
Macon Braves (RIP) (9:26 am): “What’s with the blog this morning, when I refresh it won’t show anything after 8:45, but if I go out and come back in it will show the rest of the posts?”
You must be going out only as far as the kitchen.
If you go out to the carport and come back in, it’ll show the final 2009 MLB standings.
And if you go out to the mailbox and come back in, it’ll show next year’s Kentucky Derby winner.
DWW
May 4th, 2009
10:13 am
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DWW
May 4th, 2009
10:16 am
I’ve seen a few comments on here lately about Sexon. Has he been mentioned in trade rumors?
DirtyDawg
May 4th, 2009
10:16 am
jed’s right, GAnderson is doggin’ it. If Bobby ‘requested’ that he take a re-hab and he says he didn’t need it, it’s just one more nail in the SOB’s coffin around here. He looks as if ‘he couldn’t care less’ because he couldn’t. I never saw a ball-player that appears that lazy…that shouts out that ‘I don’t give a damn what you think, I’m getting paid and I don’t give a rip about this team or this city’. And I wouldn’t bother with trying to play him, other than the remote possibility that he may show some flash and convince somebody that he may yet be able to play – just, please, not here. Admitting that this was a mistake is not the worst thing that the Braves could do, hanging on to him because you’ve got money tied up would be. Cut him loose and, as was suggested, move KJ to left to platoon, or perhaps play everyday (since Diaz isnt’ getting it done enough).
Lew
May 4th, 2009
10:18 am
It’s probably a good thing that some of these Denizens don’t write the horoscopes in the paper every day-the world would self destruct by Wednesday.
Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!
May 4th, 2009
10:19 am
Man Im glad I saw wolverine this weekend, and didnt go to Turner Field like I almost did.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
10:21 am
Doc H. Infante is the best fielder on this team.
Yeah? Like the time he made 3 errors in one inning against the Mariners?
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
10:21 am
With the exception of the oft-injured Garrett Anderson, the healthy again Matt Diaz and the unproven Jordan Shafer, when McCann gets back, the Braves will have roughly the same pool of offensive players to fill the everyday lineup as they had last season.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
10:24 am
When KJ is hot, he can carry a team. When he’s cold, he can’t buy a hit. Over his career, he’s been cold more often than he’s been hot.
DWW
May 4th, 2009
10:25 am
If Infante continues his success leading off and playing 2nd I think it would be a good idea to move kelly back to left field.
rich brave
May 4th, 2009
10:26 am
KJ will get in when the starter is a lefty and the record indicates KELLY hits him well. Otherwise, look for the hot bat to lead-off. Best way to stop a slump is a little success. So BC puts JOHNSON in only where there’s the best possible position to succeed.
Knowitall
May 4th, 2009
10:26 am
DWW,
You would have to actually be on a team in order to be involved in a trade rumor.
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
10:27 am
DWW, um No. He has not been linked to us. He isn’t even playing for anybody. We have Kotchman. Is he a big bat? No. Is he a pretty good 6-8 hole hitter? Yea
monty
May 4th, 2009
10:28 am
FRenchy has been our most stable and reliable hitter with men on this year, but it was painful to watch him regress yesterday to swinging at balls low and away in the dirt or shoe top down and in. I suppose one could say that he felt like he had to make something happen in that situation. I hope he just got caught up in the moment. The Schafer kid could use a day off every now and then. He definitely has a hole in his swing right now.Chipper is definitely not CHipper right now. He’s an easy out,suppose it’s related to his hand still hurting. Ross has come back down to earth, I at first thought he was a hitting machine, but he’s looking more like a back-up now than a starter. Until Infante starts cooling off I think you have to let him play ahead of Kelly.Yunel is a douple play hitting robot. Jo-Jo looked great for 5 innings, kinda like, “Chuck James was lights out until the 6th!” Saw Andruw bat last night for the Rangers pulled a weak line drive to left drove in a run, but the replay of his swing showed he was still doing that thing with his butt moving backwards when he swung, kind of an all arms swing. But(no pun intended) he produced.
rich brave
May 4th, 2009
10:29 am
I think DWW’s is a good suggestion. GARRETT’s still out, and MATTY’s discombobulated again trying to hit on a regular rather than a situational basis. I’d like to see KELLY play a little LF and bat in the 7-8 hole.
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
10:31 am
.982 Infante at 2B. .979 Johnson at 2B
Braves20
May 4th, 2009
10:31 am
Granted only 15% of the season was been played but this is obvious, the Braves are a team with little power, no speed (Crawford stole more bases for the Rays yesterday than the Braves team to date), so-so defense, probably better than average rotation and pen. It pretty much adds up to 84-88 which is the pace they are on right now. The next week will probably tell us a lot.
coach joe
May 4th, 2009
10:31 am
Same oh Same oh!! No spark, same tired excuses… Time to dump Anderson, sit Kelly for good, bring up Hanson and some of the other kids- (heyward etc).. shake thngs up.. This is really getting old-fast..
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
10:32 am
In the baseball Encyclopedia, Yunel Escobar’s picture is beside the definition of “ Million dollar ability, ten cent head.”
monty
May 4th, 2009
10:32 am
Wonder what would happen if GA told the Whitesox coach he didn’t want to rehab? or Lou Peniella? or the Phillies coach?
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
10:34 am
monty I think once you get to the status that Anderson has in the league then you get to make your own decisions.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
10:35 am
Casey Kotchman’s offensive numbers (decent average, throw in some extra base hits) are what you would like to get from a speed demon, waterbug, outfielder with little power but who can steal bases.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
10:38 am
The decision to name Jordan Shafer the everyday centerfielder will pay dividends for the Braves in the future. It will hurt the team this year, however.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
10:39 am
doc holliday,i>No ABC baseball…….none at all. This is not about a cleanup hitter. This is about the lack of stolen bases, the lack of Hit & run, the lack of solid defense. We have absolutely no clutch
i disagree with this. we had several plays yesterday that count as ABC baseball, bunting runners over sac flys, ect. while its not exactly because we dont have cleanup hitters, i would argue that it IS because we arent getting enough extra base hits. 1 double in the right spot yesterday, and we would have won that game….
I have forgot how a sac fly looks like.
then you werent watching yesterday. there were 5 of them.
but getting that runner in from 3rd with less than two outs is important. that used to be automatic for the braves. i remember growing up, knowing without a doubt that the braves would get that runner home with a sac fly. i always thought that was the easiest run to get in the world. “all they have to do is hit it in the air, and weve got a run!” i would think. its not so easy anymore.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
10:41 am
Mc,
If We are in the 9th inning of the 7th game in a playoff or WS game……….and a ball is hit to the IF, with the game on the line, I would like it to be hit to Infante or chipper. Those are the only 2 that are close to automatic.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
10:43 am
DAP–I wouldn’t consider a sac fly as “small ball.” Just solid baseball…
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
10:43 am
Or a lucky coincidence, depending on the batter’s goals…
DAP
May 4th, 2009
10:46 am
doc hollidayInfante is the best fielder on this team.
pfff……ok.
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
10:48 am
Kotchman is a 15-20 HR type of player with a .280 average. Granted he is not a big bat but the braves make up for not having a big bat by having a lot of okay bats that won’t get a ton of homeruns but will get 12-18. Just need to realize that we can’t wait for the homeruns anymore and play small ball. Remember that ball usually travels further the hotter it gets
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
10:49 am
DAP,
You are right………I was not watching……..all weekend for that matter………thankfully. But remember………”One swallow doesnt make a summer.”
Lew
May 4th, 2009
10:50 am
Yeah-Calling up Hanson is definitely what a team with no real pitching problems needs to score more runs.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
10:50 am
steve from OH
then i dont think i understand what small ball is. ive always thought that anything that allows you to score or move runners over without a hit would be small ball. a sac fly is just like a sac bunt, but with a runner scoring attached. your just moving the runner 90 feet.
either way, its baseball basics, right? getting that runner in from third should be the easiest thing to do in baseball. a grounder to the right side, a squeeze bunt a sac fly, a base hit…there are so many ways to get him in. that run is a must.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
10:54 am
DAP,
I know you are a smart guy, but if you dont think that our braves are one of the worse teams (if not the worse) at doing the fundamentals……..you are just not watching. The only player that I have seen bunt the ball with all the coolness in the world is Lowe………and I think infante. The rest just look like they are in panic. This team is constantly in panic. Losing is in the air……..They just lost the feeling of winning………..dont know how to.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
10:57 am
doc hollidayYou are right………I was not watching
then why would you make a statement like this: No ABC baseball…….none at all.
while there were several mistakes yesterday as far as fundamentals go, i thought yesterday was one of the best in a long time for the braves, when it came to the basics.
you also said
This is not about a cleanup hitter.
which is true but what absolutely DID do us in yesterday was the lack of extra base hits with runners on. sounds like a cleanup hitter would help out with a situation like that, right?
it makes sense now since you didnt watch the games, but now im confused as to why you decided to comment so matter-of-factly about games you didnt watch…?
PWHjort
May 4th, 2009
11:00 am
DAP, it isn’t something I have to see. The whole is not more than the sum of its’ parts in baseball. And we don’t have the pieces. We’re above average at 2B (when KJ is hitting), SS (when Escobar is hitting), 3B (when Chipper’s on the field), C (when McCann’s on the field), and CF, but we’re so far below league average at the corner OF and 1B positions, the easiest positions to find good hitters for by the way, that we’re a league average offense at best. We’ve got an amazing pitching staff, so we’ll be able to stay in games. But we won’t have the offense to win them.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
11:05 am
doc hollidayI know you are a smart guy, but if you dont think that our braves are one of the worse teams (if not the worse) at doing the fundamentals……..you are just not watching
i appreciate that, and its funny you would say that after admitting you werent watching yesterday… i was only speaking about the game yesterday, not in general. like ive said, it was one of the better fundamental games the braves have played in a while.
C's
May 4th, 2009
11:05 am
Did someone just say “Same oh, same oh”? You mean “Same ol’, same ol”.
Jack G.
May 4th, 2009
11:06 am
As long as Bobby is around with his 3 run homer mindset and TP coaching batting, the Braves will not have much of an offense.
In case you havent noticed, the Braves offense went south when TP came on board.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:08 am
I guess it’s just one’s own personal definition. I consider “small ball” to be bunting, stealing, and hitting-and-running. I agree that getting a runner in from third is basic…and we haven’t been terribly good at it. But I consider trading an out for a run to be much different than trading an out for second base…
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
11:10 am
Doc H.–
Eh…I’d want it hit to Kotchman…or Chipper.
PWHjort
May 4th, 2009
11:12 am
Trading an out for a run is much less frustrating to watch than trading an out for second base.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:15 am
So in few words……..we have a second baseman that has a weak glove and that half of the season he “carries” the team and the other half he doesnt even know who he is.
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
11:16 am
bvillebaron What are you thinking man? You would rather Bobby keep the streaky Kelly Johnson in the lead off spot to work out of his slump when it could be costing this team wins over someone like Infante who is at least getting on base? Foolish!
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
11:16 am
Spent much of the morning picking up the largest of the many branches that fell in my front yard during the brief but violent storm that hit my little corner of the metroplex last night. Huge limbs down across the street, so I’m fortunate in that regard.
Anyway … anybody here in the Braves 400 Club? If so, I’ll see you at the luncheon at noon in the 755 Club (I know, 400 Club meeting at the 755 Club; it gets confusing). I agreed to do this thing, not knowing there would be Q&A, etc. So if you’re there, please make the questions relatively easy, OK? I’ve only had a few cups of coffee and already done manual labor today. Thanks.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:18 am
Steve from OH,
Small ball is doing the little things to win a ball game. Bunting the runner over, Hitting behind the runner when he is on second, hit a sac fly when on 3rd less than 2 down, putting the ball in play when runners are on(not striking out). Thats small ball.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:18 am
DAP,
It not like “we dont need a cleanup hitter”………..it is like “We are not this bad because we dont have a cleanup hitter”…………we are this bad because we dont have a cleanup hitter and many more things………I just mentioned a fuew of them.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:21 am
McFann,
I think Infante plays smoother than Kotchman.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:21 am
Get them on, Get them over, Get them in. Best small ball definition.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:22 am
Mc,
Im not taking anything away from kotchman………he is almost automatic too……..I just expressed my preferences.
monty
May 4th, 2009
11:23 am
It could be a while before we know if McCann is going to be able to play up to his former level with glasses. Say he starts Friday’s game and he goes 0-12 or 1-10 over the weekend and it runs on into next week. Some will say he is just rusty and he’ll have to get his timing back others will say no it’s the glasses. I hope he comes back and goes to hitting right away, but if he doesn’t then what? If McCann can’t perform as in the past then the pressure will be on Wren to find a bat somewhere.
Some Blogs Have Tender Moments
May 4th, 2009
11:24 am
Coach: “C’mon, kid, let’s go drown some worms.”
Jeff321: “Oh boy! Can we first impale them on some wicked sharp barbs, and watch ‘em . . . wiggle?!?”
Coach: “Sure, kid. Sure.”
Jeff321: “Heeheehee!!! Look at ‘em squirm!”
Lew
May 4th, 2009
11:24 am
Maybe things need to be viewed in a somewhat different light.
Now I would imagine that after the way the past three seasons have gone for the Braves, that just making the playoffs would be considered-at the very least- a step in the right direction by most of us here on the Ole Blog, despite the fact most will b!tch if we do anything short of winning the series, but then again, many here would get p!$$ed if their toddler didn’t run before crawling.
Granted the offense has been non-existent recently and has been our Achilles’ Heel, just as pitching has been the weak spot of our two main competitors for the Division, the Mets and Phillies. With the Marlins, it’s inexperience, poor defense and a weak pen (and their vaunted young pitching staff has fallen back to earth). Yet here we are 24 games into the season and we’re only 2 1/2 games behind the division lead DESPITE our pitiful offense.
Now here’s where we need to look at things differently. Of all the four teams who are going to be in the hunt for the NL East, who is most likely to overcome their inadequacies? Can the Mets pull off a miracle and find three or four better starters? Can they get their middle relief squared away? Can them improve their defense? Doubtful in the extreme.
Can the Phillies overcome their God Awful pitching? Maybe by scoring 10 runs each and every night, but as for acquiring a pitching staff? Doubtful. Can they overcome a poor performance by Hamels? It remains to be seen.
Can the Marlins gain the needed experience? Not this year. Can they come up with a better bullpen during the season? Doubtful-they have no money and no one will make a significant trade for a couple of months yet. Can they significantly improve their defense? Again, doubtful. And we’ve seen that they have come back to earth and are just as vulnerable as anyone else.
Can the Braves fill in with pitching should they need to? Absolutely. We have Morton and Hanson waiting for an opening on the starting staff. We have Medlen and Acosta waiting for the openings in the pen. Can we improve our offense without making a huge deal? Absolutely. The return of McCann will automatically add more punch and though Garrett Anderson is scheduled for beheading in the on Deck circle later this week by rabid fans, he will add offense to an otherwise lackluster performance. Do we have the trade pieces to add a bat? Absolutely yet again.
The end result of this is that the Braves have the wherewithall to improve their deficienies and to take care of any other replacements we might need to make. Our competition? Not so much.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:24 am
What about hitting? Does hitting qualify as small ball? Hitting gets them on, gets them over, and gets them in…hitting for power does this more efficiently and more often. Bunting costs you outs. Stolen bases typically cost you net runs. Not saying getting them on, over, and in is bad, but there are better ways to do it and that is how you construct your team.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
11:24 am
jack g. In case you havent noticed, the Braves offense went south when TP came on board.
hm…no i havent noticed that. maybe i was distracted by the fact that in the 7 full years TP has been the hitting coach, the braves have scored an average of 800 runs per season, and have ranked in the top ten run scoring team in the majors 4 times.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:26 am
Schafer’s Wafers,
get them on is all we have…………33% of the equation wont do.
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
11:28 am
Steve from OH, you cant always sit around and wait for the 3 run homer to happen, cause it wont happen more often than not. making productive outs is what this team needs to do.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:29 am
DAP, statistics and facts are no good here. Why do you keep using them?
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:33 am
Steve from OH,
Its not like you are going to score all your runs as a product of ABC……….thing is no team should or could be this predictable and win. You have to keep the other team off balance………guessing.
It is so comfortable for other team to know braves are not going to run………they dont have to think about the runner on 1st or on 2nd………… If you are playing against the redsox………they make you think about the runner at 3rd………if you dont………..they come home………. (this is not happening all they long, but it puts pressure).
You have to make the other team think about the bunt single possibility. The slash single………the texas leaguer…………
Teams are not afraid about facing the braves………they practically enjoy visiting turner field.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:35 am
I didnt say we had all the pieces I was just explaining small ball… Steve from OH didnt think a sac fly was small ball. Steve we understand everyone loves the big fly but it does not happen every time. You have to be able to make productive outs bc lets face it you are going to make outs.
Random
May 4th, 2009
11:35 am
Schafer’s Wafers (11:18 am): “Steve from OH,
“Small ball is doing the little things to win a ball game. Bunting the runner over, Hitting behind the runner when he is on second, hit a sac fly when on 3rd less than 2 down, putting the ball in play when runners are on(not striking out). Thats small ball.”
Imo, your definition of “small ball” is too vague and over-broad, and not all your examples are actually “small ball”.
In a nutshell, “small ball” is the exchange of an out for a base. Sac bunts (but not bunting for a hit), sac flies, groundouts to the right side with a runner on second — all “small ball”.
Hitting, ie, “putting the ball in play (not striking out)”, with or without baserunners, is just good baseball, not “small ball”. Stealing bases is not “small ball”, ’cause there is no exchange of an out for the base. Hit-and-run is not “small ball”.
I’m sure some and many will disagree with this definition.
Okay with me — have at it.
Woogidy
May 4th, 2009
11:36 am
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nation_dumbfounded_as_to_why?utm_source=a-section
anyone see this? funny
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:38 am
There is no such thing as waiting for the three-run homer. Jebus Chris, people, I don’t know who coined that phrase but it has got to be both the biggest fallacy and the biggest misrepresentation of good team strategy.
How ’bout “waiting” for a 2-run single? Does that sound less damaging (well, to your position, not mine)? “Waiting” for a one-out double? Why would we do those things when we can send Yunel Escobar off stealing 50 times for an approximately 50% success rate or bunt in the second inning?
But wait, here’s the rub–after you bunt (and give the other team one of your precious outs “no take it–I insist. Let me make it as easy as possible for you!”)–you’re still waiting on that one-run single, or, if you’re clever and can use logic–a 2-run homer. Now what is the difference, minus giving up an out?
Let’s do a hypothetical, shall we? I’ll assume “waiting on a three-run homer”= runners on 1st and 2nd, no out. I don’t bunt. My expected runs are now 1.47. You bunt. Your expected runs are now 1.41. Why would you bunt, knowing this, especially early in the game?
blueridge
May 4th, 2009
11:38 am
1. Schaffer- CF
2. Kotchman- 1B
3. Chipper- 3B
4. Infante- LF
5. BMac- C
6. Frenchy- RF
7. KJ- 2B
8. Esco- ss
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:41 am
Mets, Phillies and Braves (in that order) are the most difficult teams to strikeout.
Mets and Braves (2nd and 3rd), teams with most walks.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:41 am
Random
In a nutshell, “small ball” is the exchange of an out for a base. Sac bunts (but not bunting for a hit), sac flies, groundouts to the right side with a runner on second — all “small ball”.
So take my post and delete the last sentence and I explained small according to your definition. I would say a hit and run would be considered small ball. You dont have to make an out for it to be considered small ball.
bakerman
May 4th, 2009
11:41 am
Blueridge, Kotchman is way too slow to bat 2nd.
LT- A Blogger
May 4th, 2009
11:41 am
Woogidy- thanks that was good stuff.
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
11:42 am
haha blueridge you have to be kidding me with that lineup. Kotchman is just as slow and will hit into more DP’s. Infante has no power but you want him to hit cleanup.
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
11:42 am
Steve, Sancho Panza is looking for you. Wants to sign on in your quest, LOL.
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:43 am
Blueridge: Infante in the clean up sopt are you kidding me?
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:43 am
Schafer’s wafers, I guess I’m just making a distinction between fundamental ball and foolishly giving up outs.
Now, if we’re talking probability of scoring one run, then that is a different story–sometimes small ball is applicable, late in games. And you’ll never hear a complaint out of me when it happens. But building a team around bunts, steals, and giving up outs for bases versus good solid hitting–well, you’re going to lose a TON of games that way, plain and simple.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:45 am
scoots, by the way this blog looks right now, there isn’t a Sancho Panza to be found. I’m fighting windmills all alone…
vabravesfan
May 4th, 2009
11:47 am
1. Schafer
2. Infante LF
3. CJ
4. Mac
5. Frenchy
6. KJ
7. Escobar
8. Kotchman
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:47 am
Braves have progressed so much in giving up the walk…………they are tied for 3rd for fewest and are ranked 2 in K/BB ratio behind the DBacks, way ahead of 3rd place Cards.
Fewes HR allowed in the majors……………… 2nd in G/F in the NL and 3rd in the majors.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:47 am
Steve,
where did you get the 1.47/1.41. Did you make that up. Giving up an out to move the runner into scoring position is not a “foolish” out. Its a “great” out. Why do teammates get high fived when they come back to the dugout after executing a good sacrifice because its “Smart” baseball.
bakerman
May 4th, 2009
11:48 am
Not only is Infante hitting a lot better than Johnson, he can go to his right and is a hellava lot better turning the DP. Kelly nees to go back to LF. Why can’t Bobby see this. Everyone else does.
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
11:48 am
blueridge-r u serious? kotch definitely shouldnt bat #2 he has no speed and infante is hitting but not clean up numbers. a lineup with them swapped i could understand better. GO BRAVOS!!!!!
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:49 am
Blueridge is not Blueridge, but Bobby Cox.
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:49 am
Steve,
Im not saying build our team around that philosophy. I am simply stating that you have to do that to be a good team. Every team is gonna hit homeruns. You just cant wait for the homerun to come. A homerun is a mistake. Hitting the ball in the gap is not.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:50 am
Right here, dude:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/expected_runs_matrix2005.premium.php
RemoW
May 4th, 2009
11:50 am
Have to admit. I am getting less impressed with Anderson everyday. He talks and acts like a man who is just here to pick up a check. His defensive play to this point has been a joke. Then he refuses a quick jaunt down the rode. Come on!
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:50 am
Doc Holiday what does that mean? Bring on ole Hanson
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
11:51 am
Doc Holiday- what is that supposed to mean?
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
11:51 am
Well that matrix is from 2005. This is 2009. And baseball has been played the way I am explaining since it was invented.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:52 am
Like I said, that is different from the probability of scoring one run. But if you play for one run, you’re never going to maximize your run scoring potential and will always score less runs than you should be. Now, if we need one run in the ninth, then there are situtions in which we should bunt. But never, ever early in games.
Knowitall
May 4th, 2009
11:52 am
this is a test
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:52 am
RemoW,
I back you up………the guy is a joke………..he doesnt wanna play in atlanta……..I think he signed here because there were not many options out there.
Knowitall
May 4th, 2009
11:53 am
this is also a test
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
11:53 am
And here’s a beauty that I’m sure escaped most of our small-ball aficianados: Bobby bunts Escobar with first and second, no outs…not because he was trying to scratch out a run, but because he was playing for a big inning. Chipper gets walked (think Bobby didn’t know that would happen?) to load the bases, one out, Francoeur up. The expectation at that point is a crooked number.
So, naturally, the screams went out that Bobby was insane for the bunt, because Chipper walked. Small-ball folks just can’t catch a break, eh?
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:53 am
bravofan,
Only BC can come up with a lineup like that.
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:53 am
Let me set things straight I have no idea who bravofan2 is I have no relation to him.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
11:54 am
TESTING
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
11:54 am
anderson is past his prime. the braves had an opportunity to get a quality outfielder or even better KEEP Josh Anderson and have a player for now AND the future not just the first month of baseball.
Knowitall
May 4th, 2009
11:55 am
McFann
You don’t know this, but you taught me how to bold and italicize. Thanks.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:56 am
Here is the same table over the years 1977-1992. Same trend:
“TABLE 1 – Expected Run Table (1977-1992)
AL 0 1 2 NL 0 1 2
—————————————————————–
— .498 .266 .099 — .455 .239 .090
x– .877 .522 .224 x– .820 .490 .210
-x- 1.147 .693 .330 -x- 1.054 .650 .314
xx- 1.504 .922 .446 xx- 1.402 .863 .407
–x 1.373 .967 .385 –x 1.285 .907 .358
x-x 1.758 1.187 .507 x-x 1.650 1.123 .466
-xx 2.009 1.410 .592 -xx 1.864 1.320 .566
xxx 2.345 1.568 .775 xxx 2.188 1.487 .715
Where, for example, “xx-” means runners on first and second, third base empty.”
And the teams that have been playing it that way have been scoring less runs than they should.
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:56 am
TEster
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
11:57 am
TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knowitall
May 4th, 2009
11:57 am
Oh boy. I hope I didn’t start something.
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:58 am
bravofan2 get off the blog you screwed things up everybody tell him what he did!!
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
11:58 am
scoots, the table shows that you and Bobby are correct…
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
11:58 am
what is up with all this TEST stuff. this is a blog not a TEST site.
Random
May 4th, 2009
11:58 am
DAP (11:24 am): “jack g. ‘In case you havent noticed, the Braves offense went south when TP came on board.’
“hm…no i havent noticed that. maybe i was distracted by the fact that in the 7 full years TP has been the hitting coach, the braves have scored an average of 800 runs per season, and have ranked in the top ten run scoring team in the majors 4 times.”
Steve from OH (11:29 am): “DAP, statistics and facts are no good here. Why do you keep using them?”
Sarcasm duly noted, but in this case DAP’s stats aren’t worth much more than something Jeff321, MFin04, TnBrian, TNJeff, P-Town Brave, et alii might come up with. (Or Coach.)
Bein’ in the top ten of 16 teams ain’t necessarily much to brag about. Top 8 of 16? So-so. When you got only 16 teams, top 5 is the minimum for unreserved praiseworthiness, ie, the top third. Imo.
And it don’t mean nothin’ in the context of this discussion to say how many runs the Braves averaged in the 7 years since TP arrived, if you don’t compare that with how many runs the Braves averaged in the 7 years prior to his arrival. Or with the league’s average run scoring over the same TP period. (Preferably both.)
I’m not saying that DAP is wrong — just that he hasn’t yet presented persuasive (or even valid) statistical evidence for his position.
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
11:59 am
Is everbody elses computer messed up after bravofan2 did this ridicuolus post?
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
12:00 pm
Steve,
You dont understand. I am not saying do this every single time. But for heaven sakes this team has trouble scoring runs. Why not bunt them over and a single scores 2. Instead of waiting for the 3 run jack. Where we will most likely get K, fly out to LF, and Groundout to 2nd. Bunting makes your chances of getting that runner in from 3rd that much more. Im not saying do this every time.
Barry Bonds
May 4th, 2009
12:00 pm
I don’t like unannounced tests.
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
12:00 pm
bravofan- stop with ur nonsense its a joke take it lightly and move on buddy
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
12:00 pm
scoots, the table shows that you and Bobby are correct…
Well, of course, it does, LOL.
(Kind of a trick answer, though, since I knew the values in the Expected Runs table before I made that post)
Mark Mcgwire, Jose Canseco, Sammy Sosa, and all my fellow roiders
May 4th, 2009
12:02 pm
We hate unnanucoued tests as well!
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
12:02 pm
Steve from OH,
I think the operative phrase here is, “If you play for one run, that’s all you’ll get.”
A Rod
May 4th, 2009
12:02 pm
test are so over rated here in america. back where i come from we shot each other up all the time. if you arent cheating you arent trying
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
12:03 pm
I hate tests in school
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
12:04 pm
cabravesfan & Necromancer re: your 1:15 a.m. & 1:24 a.m., respectively
Yeah, I have a liking for films such as Showgirls, Bound (another Gina Gershon flick), Wild Things. :>)P
Necromancer…..my favorite scene was the second to last scene where Cristal is in the hospital and Nomi(sp) is there to visit and *the Kiss* . :>)
bravofan
May 4th, 2009
12:04 pm
Later talk to yall later
bravofan2
May 4th, 2009
12:04 pm
Roiders arent allowed on this blog. the braves dont agree with roid obviously looking at power numbers. Hammerin Hank did it the real way!
DAP
May 4th, 2009
12:05 pm
randomBein’ in the top ten of 16 teams ain’t necessarily much to brag about.
there are 30 teams in the majors, not 16. does that help?
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
12:06 pm
Braves NL rank in runs scored, 2001-2008. Happy Random:
13, 10, 1, 5, 4, 2, 3, 6.
Don’t think TP is the problem here…
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 4th, 2009
12:07 pm
I don’t know how to use italics or bold but this comment last night by bravos 2249 sums up the majority of Mets fans: bravos2249
May 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm
I just wanted to check to see what was going on on the Mets board…on the official site. And some weird guy who apparently stalks the team, finds the times their plane lands and departs all the time.
Now understand I am only talking about a a sample size of about 500, one’s I have actually met in person. At games at Shea I used to see them and I can’t explain what it is, but there’s just something about a good amount of them, it’s just the aura they give off I think. I am not talking all Met fans here or intending to be mean, but I’m serious I’d say it’s about a solid %25 of them. But it’s been so strange that my entire life, especially when going to St. John’s I’ve seen hundreds but almost a quarter of the Mets fans I have encountered just have something missing mentally. It’s not like overwhelmingly blatant, it’s just when you get to talking to them they have this aura and personality that is just, I don’t know the word. That comment was a typical example of many Met fan encounters I have had. I can’t explain it.
Sorry about the ramble, anyway, Vazquez must avoid HR’s tonight, hopefully that 450 foot wallout out in the Left center field gap can hold some of Delgado and Beltran’s balls in the park.
DOB
I remember you said after Lowe’s start at Turner Field, his day game start (start 2?) when he did terrible, he basically blamed it on the sun. If I can recall right, he said the glares of sun are right in your eyes and are vicious in between some peeks at the top corner of the 3B side of the top of the stadium. I remember someone, you or Carroll the team said they were going to talk to the maintence crew dude to fix that problem, also it’s a problem seeing balls thrown at the 1rst baseman. I don’t get it though, Lowe is the only righty I can ever remember in 12 years at TF that has complained about that, but if that is going to be a big problem with him and his ability to pitch I hope that problem has been fixed. Any word about that man? Thanks.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
12:08 pm
2009 rank…………12th……………..just saying
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
12:09 pm
Schafer’s Wafers,
I didn’t say it here first, but “waiting for the three-run jack” is not what people who argue against making one-run strategies a focus of your offense (including me) are talking about.
You treat every out as precious, because you have only three in an inning and 27 in a game. You just don’t give them away unless you have a really good reason (say it’s late in the game, you need one run to win, and you have someone who’s unlikely to hit the ball out of the park at the plate — or the pitchers’ up with runners on base earlier in the game).
Not sacrificing means you’re more likely to score several runs in an inning. And the numbers show it.
That may be the way you like to see the game played, but it’s not the best way to put together a productive offense.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
12:10 pm
You dont understand. I am not saying do this every single time. But for heaven sakes this team has trouble scoring runs. Why not bunt them over and a single scores 2. Instead of waiting for the 3 run jack. Where we will most likely get K, fly out to LF, and Groundout to 2nd. Bunting makes your chances of getting that runner in from 3rd that much more. Im not saying do this every time.
Then when do you suggest we use it? When is it valuable to NOT maximize our run scoring? Like I said, late in games when we need one and only one run, go for it. Like I said before, if you build an offensive team around good solid hitting fundamentals (BA/OBP/SLG) then those are not the types of results you’ll typically see. Selective memory, my friend.
Please do not ever use the term “waiting for a three-run jack” ever again. Not only is it a terrible misnomer and shows a lack of knowledge on your part (not saying that you are not knowledgable)…it is just a stock, easy-to-use way to bash Bobby Cox, when there really is not substance behind it.
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
12:11 pm
That said, Schafer’s Wafers, this team really is incredibly slow. When Carl Crawford steals more bases in one game than your entire club has all season, *THAT’S* a slow team.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
12:12 pm
2009 rank…………12th……………..just saying
Minus Brian McCann, about a week’s worth of healthy Chipper, a slumping KJ, and with a rookie CF. Just saying….
DAP
May 4th, 2009
12:13 pm
and just to be clear, random, i DID specify in my original post that the braves have been top 10 in THE MAJORS 4 out of 7 years TP has been here.
Random
May 4th, 2009
12:16 pm
Schafer’s Wafers (11:21 am): “Get them on, Get them over, Get them in. Best small ball definition.”
Nope — one of the worst. Over-broad still — it would include anything from 8 straight walks to eight straight singles to eight straight double to eight straight triples and any combination thereof (with a homerun or three thrown in here and there) — anything in fact except making an out or hitting eight straight home runs (since nobody ever “gets on”).
It’s not a definition of anything except baseball in general. Certainly not specifically “small ball” baseball.
Schafer’s Wafers (11:41 am): “I would say a hit and run would be considered small ball. [I wouldn't.] You dont have to make an out for it to be considered small ball.” [I think you do -- ie, you've got to be willing to. Sometimes the other team refuses your gifted out, and you make out like a bandit.]
Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!
May 4th, 2009
12:19 pm
Star Trek out FRIDAY WHOOO HOOOO…
DOB why not say bye to the braves and HELLOOOOOO to Uhura *wink* Well at least till we get back to .500
Kim
May 4th, 2009
12:22 pm
Was at the game Friday night and suffered through most of the over 2 hour rain delay. We finally left when most of the ushers said they were probably going to call the game. About 10 minutes after we walked through a monsoon to get to our car, they started the game back.
Anyway, it was a great game up until the rain delay. Lowe was AWESOME, and I have found my newest crush! That dude was dealing Friday night. It doesn’t hurt that he’s not bad to look at either.
Random
May 4th, 2009
12:23 pm
DAP (12:13 pm): “and just to be clear, i DID specify in my original post that the braves have been top 10 in THE MAJORS 4 out of 7 years TP has been here.”
Oops — my bad. (Calm down, buddy.)
For no good reason at all I thought you were referring to NL rankings.
Sorry, dude.
PS: But what about that “average of 800 runs per season” red herring?
Swi
May 4th, 2009
12:24 pm
Does anybody know if Santana is pitching in the series ? I saw the probables had Maine tonight and Hernandez tomorrow. I would be shocked if that was the case after the Mets had the rainout.. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks !
Reality
May 4th, 2009
12:24 pm
Lew – How do the Mets need to find “three or four starters”? Santana is golden, Pelfrey has been extremely solid his last two starts, and Maine is settling in as well. Perez is a disaster, and Hernandez is hit or miss. The Mets have Redding, Niese, and Gee ready to come up and be a fifth starter (and all are at least as serviceable as your fifth starter, or even your Great Signing from Japan). So, basically, the Mets need one starter, and perhaps one middle reliever.
The Mets clearly have the resources to take care of this, while Atlanta will need to hold a bake sale to add to its team. As for the Braves, you claim the team’s collective lethargy on offense will be fixed by McCann (who has unsolved eye problems at the moment) and Anderson, who is just a step above zombie offensively at the moment.
Can you take off your homer glasses for a moment and at least be objective?
Reality
May 4th, 2009
12:25 pm
Swi – Maine tonight, Hernnadez tomorrow, Santana against the Phils on Wednesday.
Frank Robinson
May 4th, 2009
12:26 pm
Yeah, Hank did it the old fashioned way, with greenies. Baseball has always been about cheating from spitballs, to stealing signs, to corked bats, and performance enhancing drugs.
Do not believe the hype, baseball is a sleazy adult game and always will be.
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
12:27 pm
Reality,
Redding, Niese, and Gee ready to be fifth starters? Nice try. Thanks for playing.
Reality
May 4th, 2009
12:29 pm
Piedmomt – That’s nice and snarky at all, but can you explain your objections? Any particular support? Just because you don’t know them doesn’t make them bad.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
12:29 pm
Even if you did add Redding, Niese or Gee to the rotation, you’ve still got 1-2 spots as, um…iffy at best. You replace Ollie with Niese, say, and your rotation is Santana (awesome), Pelfrey (?) Maine (?) Hernandez (well, you know how good he is…) and Niese, who doesn’t look to fare that well…
So a true #1, two #5s and 2 question marks…
Willy Wally
May 4th, 2009
12:30 pm
The offense is bad, but not nearly as bad as it looks. The Braves currently have a .752 OPS. They are only on pace to score 661 runs.
Here are the runs scored. adjusted sometimes to 162 games, for Braves teams in the past with similar OPS numbers:
1948 – .756 OPS – 777 runs per 162
2008 – .753 OPS – 753 runs per 162
1955 – .752 OPS – 782 runs per 162
1964 – .748 OPS – 803 runs per 162
1966 – .748 OPS – 777 runs per 162
1956 – .745 OPS – 741 runs per 162
1950 – .744 OPS – 811 runs per 162
1959 – .742 OPS – 747 runs per 162
1960 – .742 OPS – 761 runs per 162
1983 – .742 OPS – 746 runs per 162
Those 10 teams averaged 770 runs per 162 games with a similar OPS.
Although the offense looks real bad thus far from a run scoring standpoint, just judging by historical numbers for statistically similar teams, the offense ain’t as bad as it has looked, and it’s reasonable to believe they will score alot more than they are scoring now. The pace should jump from 660 to somewhere around 770 runs if they maintain the OPS.
northbeach Scott
May 4th, 2009
12:30 pm
These are the days when I reflect positively on not renewing my Braves season tickets. Bad baseball is just unwatchable. Braves lose both to the Mets, even without Santana pitching.
Look for the Braves to be sellers in June. Would like to see them cut ties with Garret immediately and let the kids play. Tell Tommy G, good bye, too. We need to start focusing on 2010 and 2011 and what that will mean in 2009 regarding playing time for kids vs old goats.
Swi
May 4th, 2009
12:32 pm
Thanks Reality… I guess they figured to give him the extra rest against the Braves lineup and have him ready for the Phils. This is a big break for Atlanta…
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
12:37 pm
Random,
Why do you have to make an out for it to be small ball. Small ball is all about moving runners into scoring position and scoring those runners. I dont quite follow your logic.
Random
May 4th, 2009
12:37 pm
<strong.Steve from OH (12:06 pm): “Braves NL rank in runs scored, 2001-2008. Happy Random 8)”
Happy Random
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
12:38 pm
Reality,
Niese isn’t exactly mowing ‘em down in AAA (6.55 ERA, 1.68 WHIP). Redding’s career ERA is near 5, and he’s been hurt pretty much since the Mets signed him. I’ll admit I don’t know Gee; maybe he’s ready for the bigs, but he’s been in fewer conversations about the Mets’ staff than Redding — again, who’s hardly Cy Young.
I’ll agree that Johan is money. Aside from that, however, there are a lot more ?? on the Mets’ staff than the Braves’. (And still, our offense is downright scary, and not in a good way.)
Lew
May 4th, 2009
12:40 pm
Reality-Dude, you either need to change your name or take a dose of your own medicine. They only need TWO pitchers instead of three? Redding and Who? Yeah, right. The Mets are 10th of 16 NL teams in ERA and their vaunted end of rotation guys have been less than sterling. Pelfrey is inconsistent at best and Maine may or may not make it through the season as an effective or even healthy pitcher.
As for the resources to get whomever they need? Dude (I assume), we’ve been hearing that line for years now and yet they do nothing more than sign Hernadez, Redding and Oliver Perez (for an outrageous amount of money) and pass on Derek Lowe. Their owner lost a fortune (maybe a couple of fortunes) in the Great Ponzi Scheme. Where is all this money we keep hearing about? I also have yet to hear what Prized Prospects the Mets have for trade bait.
You need a dose of Reality-not me. If Kawakami does not perform or JoJo doesn’t become as consistent as we’d like, we actually HAVE options. The Mets? Only in your dreams.
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
12:43 pm
Hey Kim, I agree he is cute but his hair breaks my heart. LOL Nevertheless, I’m a fan after reading Carroll’s story on him last week. The man is a workhorse.
Scott
May 4th, 2009
12:44 pm
KJ is a bottom of the order hitter who hits LH much better than RH. BC knows this but still wants to bat him leadoff and sit him against LH more than against RH. The platoon should be in CF with Jordan and Omar and they should be leading off with KJ in there everyday batting 7th or 8th.
Sethual Healing
May 4th, 2009
12:45 pm
Is anyone else getting to the point that watching games is just painful? It’s like every game is a replay of the game before it.
Over the years I’ve put a lot of faith in Bobby’s decision making. The man is nothing if not consistent. This is a good thing if you’re winning… do the same thing to replicate previous results. But if you’re not winning you HAVE to change something. Sometimes you’ve got to shuffle things just to let a little fresh air in.
I wish I could talk to Bobby and say “ok, why exactly is it that you won’t throw a steal sign? What do you have to lose exactly, the game? We’re ALREADY DOING THAT.”
Lew
May 4th, 2009
12:45 pm
Reality-One more thing. The Braves (with JoJO and Kawakami) are 6th in the league in team ERA. This includes the pitiful bullpen performance at season’s start. The past 13 games, the pen has pitched about 36 innings and even with the runs given up yesterday, have an ERA of barely 2.00 during that stretch. During those 13 games, Braves starters have given up three runs or less in nine of those games and two or less in eight. In other words, we took care of our problems (due to three relievers coming off of surgery and working their way back to normal). The Mets haven’t and if the past is any indication, won’t fix the problems this time around, either.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
12:46 pm
The ‘mucils have 2 starters , Johan and Pelf, and 1 old man and 2 sheilas….. Their bullpen looks shaky even with Putz and KROD and their clutch hitting has been very poor this year…. their hitting should improve but their picthing. doubt it
Fillies – have the worst starting rotation for a defending WS champ I can recall, and even with Moyer holding his own and Hamels (if he is fit) coming good they still need that awesome offense to hold up every night
US Braves – we have a very anaemic offense from a “power” perspective. No teams are too scared of us if they pitch around Chipper…. this is going to be a huge problem unless Mc and GA can get to 100% health very quickly…… Our BP still worries and I still assume Moylan is not near 100% (appears 25lbs overweight and his pitches do not seem to have that bite at this time)…. Bennett just seems to throw batting practice moves each time I see him… Soriano and Gonzo look very good..
I pray we continue to play Infante, he looks great at 2nd base and has made a few plays I doubt KJ could… Schafer needs to work on that inside pitch and then I think we are fine… the rest will come around
Marlins – are scary good at best but bloody inconsistent… take away Cantu or drop him back to his normal numbers and I doubt they can maintain this pace…
Washington – have some good hitting but that is it
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 4th, 2009
12:48 pm
Tommy Hanson would be the Mets #2 starter for the last 135+ games. %100. We let him chill in AAA.
Lew
May 4th, 2009
12:53 pm
The Braves have lost six of their 13 losses by two runs or less, so yes, if McCann and/or Anderson had been available and produced at anywhere near past levels, our offense would have improved enough to take care of half of our losses to this point-in all likelihood.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 4th, 2009
12:56 pm
I si t just me or does it make you elated when you see Oliver Perez to horrifically every single start. It’s just getting worse and worse and there is %2.95 guaranteed money and years of his service for massive money. I love it.
Yeah, Reality, Maine is durable too isn’t he, as well as consistent. Mike Pelfrey is a #4 at best at this stage of his inconsistent career as well. He looks nervous and has looked as if the pressure is getting to him knowing he is the #2 basically. Watching him fall off the mound on that pitch in front of 50,000 fans was timeless. Admit it, Lew is right, the bats are ALWAYS there and to be had when you need them, pitching not so much. Anderson will come through if he can stay healthy, I think his identical #’s the last 16 years prove that. He starts off slow and when it gets hot so does he. I’ll take him over Murphy who falls head over heels, falls constantly, needs Reyes to cut his throws off to the plate when a runner is trying to score and drops easy fly balls. Your rotation is as bad as the Phillies. Atlanta would be 5 games up in 1rst now if McCann didn’t have this freak injury and Anderson atleast played 10 games. Atlanta has the most potential to succeed in the division.
Lew
May 4th, 2009
12:56 pm
To take that last thought a bit further, had McCann and Anderson been available and even contributed enough to win HALF of those six 2 run or less losses, the Braves’ record right now would be 14-10 and we would probably be leading the division. So YES, those two will make a significant difference when they return.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
12:58 pm
Lew – exactly, which is why I hope we do not RUSH them back and magnify whatever problem/s they may have…. soft tissue injuries of the ilk GA has seem to hang around if they are not allowed to heal properly the first time… his quad injury may have been the result of us playing him on a wonky calf…..
but it would still be nice if us fans could get some confidence that we could score a runner from 2nd or 3rd with no outs… or have the risk of someone going yard consistenly in a pressure situation…
Random
May 4th, 2009
12:59 pm
Schafer’s Wafers (12:37 pm): “Why do you have to make an out for it to be small ball. Small ball is all about moving runners into scoring position and scoring those runners. I dont quite follow your logic.”
‘Cause that’s my definition of “small ball”.
Look at it this way — you can “mov[e] runners into scoring position and scor[e] those runners” with a series of solid singles. You wouldn’t call that “small ball”, would you?
So yours is obviously not a valid definition (or description) of “small ball”. It’s over-broad.
As I initially said, not all would agree with my definition. I think it is a useful one in that it highlights and separates the usually non-productive, wasteful aspects of a non-hitting strategy (trading outs for bases) from the more productive ones (”safe” stealing, “safe” hit-and-runs, bunt singles).
Wikipedia: “The use of small-ball to win games has undergone criticism the last few decades as so called “sabermetrics” has developed. One such criticism is that when used earlier in games, the probability of scoring multiple runs is significantly decreased if an out is traded for a base. For instance, the average number of runs scored in major league games in 1999-2002 when there were no outs and a runner on first was .953 runs. The average number of runs scored when there was one out and a runner on second was .725 runs.”
J williams
May 4th, 2009
1:00 pm
What’s the status on Glavine? We’re 1 month into the season, and he has yet to pitch. He’s going to need a couple of rehab starts, if/when he’s healthy, so it’s going to be June (same as Smoltz) before/if he joins the big club.
The Braves should just make him a coach, and give the roster spot to someone else.
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
May 4th, 2009
1:02 pm
We’re on the same page both literally and figuratively Lew.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
1:05 pm
random
oh, im calm!!!! : -)
anyways, the point is, the braves have had several VERY potent offensive team since TP has been the hitting coach, so the assertion that it has spiraled downward since he has arrived is silly.
the hitting talent may have spiraled downward, but thats a different thing.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
1:06 pm
realityHow do the Mets need to find “three or four starters”?The Mets have Redding, Niese, and Gee ready to come up and be a fifth starter
ladies and gentlemen…exibit A…
ok, just to break this down a little bit… pelfry has been extremely solid his last two?
11IP, 11 H, 0 5 ER, 7 BB, 1 K
thats an ok ERA, but a bad whip and only one K? you arent out of the woods with him… and maine had a good outing his last time but its following 2 TERRIBLE ones. you admit that perez and hernandez are shaky… thats not a great rotation.
also, i wouldnt be so sure you guys have plenty of money to solve the problem. i think the mets are stretched pretty thin…why else would they settle for tatis, hernandez, ect this year? i dont KNOW that the mets are cash stropped, but to me, the evidence suggests it.
Lew
May 4th, 2009
1:06 pm
dogs-Yeah, I hope they get healed, too. The pitching will keep us in most games in the meantime and Chipper’s performance will rise, too, when he has someone hitting behind him that makes the oposing pitchers think twice about walking him.
The pitching (starting) has looked great overall , the pen much improved as time creeps onward so far this season and with Hanson, Medlen and Morton still at Gwinnett, we’re covered. The other teams couldn’t put their hands on more pitching the quality of what we have waiting in the wings without a major deal.
The Mets’ fans claim all this money, yet they haven’t spent it (except for Johan and KRod) in four years-not nearly enough, so I’m doubting it’s there-especially with the price of seats at the new park being so expensive and their owner taking a Madoff bath. I also don’t see that any of the teams (with the exception of maybe Florida) have anyone worth trading for parts, whereas the Braves are loaded in that department.
BamaBrave
May 4th, 2009
1:09 pm
That 1:03 post may be the dumbest one to ever appear on this blog.
And THAT’s saying something…
Congrats.
J williams
May 4th, 2009
1:10 pm
The Braves really need to take both these games from the Mets. It will get them back to .500, & lock the Mets into the 4th hole for a while longer.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
1:10 pm
Lew – excellent points, a look at all the stats show us very high on our best 3 starters wrp to SLG% against (all in the top 25 in MLB) and high up in all important pitching stats… hitting – we only have Chipper and JF in the top 100 in slugging % and very few top 25 in any hitting category..
I hope Moylan is not butchered early in the year and kind of wish we would lighten his workload or even put him down for a month to get that nasty nasty stuff fully back… give the little maddog Medlen a go for a bit
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
1:10 pm
Doc H.–
Yeah, I know. I’m expressing my preferences, too. Kotchman’s a pretty dang good fielder.
Monty–
I agree–could be a while. I hope he comes back and crushes an RBI double in his first AB, but I don’t wanna get my hopes up too high. Just hope he doesn’t go 0 fer this weekend…
Tommy Cheeseballs
May 4th, 2009
1:11 pm
DOB or anyone else,
This might have been answered already but has Maddux said if he is going into the HOF as a Brave or Cub yet? I would assume(and hope)that it would be as a Brave.
Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!
May 4th, 2009
1:12 pm
What do you all think Mr. Spock would say about the 2009 Atlanta Braves season so far?
zmerk13
May 4th, 2009
1:12 pm
EX-BRAVES FAN SINCE THERE NO BROTHERS,
Brandon Jones isn’t a “brother”? JJ and Escobar would exactly be called “klansman” either. You sir are an idiot.
Anthony
May 4th, 2009
1:14 pm
Anybody watch the White sox/Rangers game last night. Betemit had on oakley glasses that, i’m assuming, are similar to the ones that McCann is going to wear. Thought it was interesting.
zmerk13
May 4th, 2009
1:14 pm
I meant to say “would not” on my last post.
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
1:15 pm
dogsbrekky (1:10)
I’d be happy to see Moylan shut down for awhile too, even if it means he’s DL’d and sent to Gwinnett on an extended rehab assignment.
It’s fantastic that he was able to return from TJ so quickly. But he’s not sharp. And he’s made his point — he’s healthy enough to pitch again. I’m not sure the best place for him to shake off the cobwebs and regain form is in Atlanta during the regular season, however.
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
1:16 pm
Moylan isn’t going to be full-bore any time this season, let alone in a month, so sending him down would be a waste. He’s barely 12 months into recovery, so he should be back to full speed around around, oh, November. He just isn’t going to be as good in 2009 as he was prior to the surgery, and folks in their right mind shouldn’t have an expectation that he will.
Reality
May 4th, 2009
1:17 pm
Piedmont – what I’m saying is, even they can’t be worse than Perez, so even with their flaws they’ll be an improvement until a mid-sason trade or other fix occurs (if it does).
Lew – If, if, if….you can’t depend on ifs. The Braves aren’t the only team with injuries/underperformers. So why is it you use that as an excuse for the Braves, but don’t allow the same adjustments for other teams. Delgado has been hurt, Maine is coming off surgery, pelfrey had tendonitis. So if you expect Atlanta to improve in those areas, expect from the Mets (and others) as well. You can’t pick and choose.
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
1:17 pm
The more I watched this team…the more I see that we miss a big bat or two in the middle of the lineup. Not necessarily a power bat, but someone who can consistenly drive in runs, hits doubles and the occasional homerun.
Conclusion: this whole team hinges upon a healthy McCann and an adequate Garret Anderson. The Braves are 11-13 while missing 2 of their top 3 players/run producers. That might be a little bit of a stretch…but the Braves lineup was supposed to be…Chipper, McCann, Anderson…in some combo for the 3,4,5 hitters.
I know it has been painful so far, but if the bullpen can continue to improve, the starting pitching stays relatively constant like it has been, and we add both a healthy Anderson and McCann the rest of the way, we should be fine.
Random
May 4th, 2009
1:19 pm
Steve from OH (12:06 pm): “Braves NL rank in runs scored, 2001-2008. Happy:
13, 10, 1, 5, 4, 2, 3, 6.
Don’t think TP is the problem here…”
I dunno — maybe them runs didn’t come about by no actchal hittin’. Maybe they come from small balls.
Yep, I bet them’s all them “small runs”. ‘Cause TP ain’t no good a’tall. Never was. He stole that MVP from Berry.
IDIOT
May 4th, 2009
1:19 pm
EX-BRAVES FAN SINCE THERE NO BROTHERS,
Listen here Shooter. If the Redneck Hicks didnt bring you over here you wouldnt be here. Be thankful
Reality
May 4th, 2009
1:20 pm
Also, Lew – how is Atlanta “loaded” for trades? You wiped your system clean in the Teixera debacle (see a few pages back for all the players you lost from that trade, and the resultant salary dump), so other than Hanson and maybe two others, where is all this talent? And you can eliminate Hanson, because no way you’re trading him.
Tomahawk210
May 4th, 2009
1:21 pm
You would think after Hampton stole all that money from the Braves they would have Anderson on a short leash. Cut your losses Braves. Play Infante in LF and KJ at 2B. Oh who cares anyway, the Braves don’t why should we?
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
1:23 pm
You know there are some idiots on the blog today when you start remembering the “good times” when Anders is around.
C's
May 4th, 2009
1:24 pm
I love it! Moylan has two bad games to start the season and everyone wants him gone. Then he goes 8.1 IP giving up 2 ER and getting 11 K’s, and he’s fine. Now a bad outing yesterday and they want him gone again.
lol
Reality
May 4th, 2009
1:25 pm
So Macon, I’m guessing an “idiot” is anyone who doesn’t agree with you, right?
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
1:26 pm
small-ball is an informal and colloquial term for an offensive strategy in which the batting team emphasizes placing runners on base and then advancing them into position to score a run in a deliberate, methodical way. This strategy places a high value on individual runs and attempts to score them without requiring extra base hits, or sometimes without base hits at all, instead using bases on balls, stolen bases, sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly balls, the hit-and-run play, and aggressive baserunning.
That is what small-ball is, waiting for the 3 run jack is called a big inning.
I got that from Wikipedia. best thing i could find.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
1:28 pm
Anthony–
I didn’t see any of the game, but I saw a photo of Betemit wearing ‘em. Yeah, it’s int’resting (don’t mean that in the “bad” sense). McCann’s s’posed to get his today. And I think his rehab starts tomorrow or Wednesday.
Reality
May 4th, 2009
1:28 pm
Chuck James – didn’t you try going out and getting one of those “always available bats” two seasons ago? His name was Mark Teixera. There was even a song about him. And how did that work out for you?
chris from md
May 4th, 2009
1:30 pm
I have three thoughts and would love some feedback:
1) Reyes has actually had three good starts if you look at the first five innings. I have noticed that the Brave starters in the minors very rarely go more than six innings. Is it at all possible that people like Reyes (and other former Braves– James, H.Ramirez) simply don’t know how to or have the arm strength/stamina to successfuly pitch more than six? Are we training our pitchers to be five-six inning starters? I could be wrong but if you look at the AAA box scores each day, no one is going beyong six. This has been a trend, I believe.
2) Omar Infante may be the second coming of Placido Polanco. Polanco was a utility for a number of years and then blossomed as a starter. Wasn’t Infante a pretty decent prospect with the Tigers about five years back? I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him do well as a regular. I’m not saying that the Braves will take that route. But if they did, I don’t think he’d disappoint.
3) With the success of Infante, the bat of Prado, and the exceptional start of D. Hernandez in AAA (hitting around .400) might the Braves pull the trigger on a Kelly Johnson trade? I am sensing that they have less patience this year with some of their players. For example, as badly as Boyer was, he only appeared in three games and bombed in two of them, and they cut bait. Not saying they weren’t justified in letting him go, just saying that I was a little surprised and I think that Cox is truly wanting more than ever to win now. Therefore, a Kelly Johnson trade seems very possible.
Thoughts?
Chris from MD
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
1:32 pm
C’s – no-one wants Moylan GONE, we want the Braves to protect his arm by letting him go slowly and if he is at MLB level he is going to get used a lot for that 7-8th inning… why risk a career for an extra month or 2 to get him stronger is all we are saying… the results are not what we are focussing on, rather how his pitches look..
Schafer's Wafers
May 4th, 2009
1:32 pm
Reality,
Shut it dude. Mark Teixeira may not have gotten us to the playoffs. But I remember that neither did the Mets. Oh how ironic. Shut your face you Troll.
C's
May 4th, 2009
1:35 pm
Fair enough. But it’s weird how nobody wanted to “protect his arm” over the last couple weeks when he was pitching good. And now after a bad outing, they want to “protect his arm”.
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
1:36 pm
Omar Infante may be the second coming of Placido Polanco.
Wait. I thought Marteen was the second coming of Placido Polanco, LOL.
buzzmeat
May 4th, 2009
1:38 pm
I wish BMac would come back tonight… this strech is very important to bouncing back… oh well David ross must bat good until fiday(I hope friday)
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
1:40 pm
Lew,
Problem is they arent here.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
1:41 pm
C’s – no a few of us on here have been saying since ST they should take him (Moys) very slowly and wanted him to start the year in AAA or even have more rehab time…. very few injuries like his recover in less than 15-16 months as far as being back to MLB calibre status
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
1:43 pm
buzzmeat I wish BMac would come back tonight
You and me both.
Ross has been good, but to be brutally honest, I’m beyond ready for him to go back to being the backup.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
1:46 pm
In the sport of baseball, small-ball is an informal and colloquial term for an offensive strategy in which the batting team emphasizes placing runners on base and then advancing them into position to score a run in a deliberate, methodical way. This strategy places a high value on individual runs and attempts to score them without requiring extra base hits, or sometimes without base hits at all, instead using bases on balls, stolen bases, sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly balls, the hit-and-run play, and aggressive baserunning. A commonly used term for a run produced playing small-ball is a “manufactured run.”
The use of small-ball to win games has undergone criticism the last few decades as so called “sabermetrics” has developed.
So If you are a Saber guy you buy it. If you don’t buy Saber, you probably don’t buy it.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
1:47 pm
realityYou wiped your system clean in the Teixera debacle (see a few pages back for all the players you lost from that trade, and the resultant salary dump)
the braves system is ranked as one of the best in the majors, so im not sure how “wiped” we are. good prospects have (not all tradeable) include heyward, freeman, schafer(yes, im counting him), hanson, hernandez, Rohrbough, locke, medlin, teheran, b. jones, hicks, t. jones, diamond, Spruill, marek, valdez, morton, venters, ect.
look up some of these guys and youll see why they might be valuable trade pieces. most of them are pitchers too, which, lucky us, is very coveted in MLB.
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
1:47 pm
Reality—Actually I was refering to the dummy that was screaming all the racist crap and the idiot that responded to him with more racist crap. Wasn’t even refering to anyone’s baseball talk, so your welcome to pull your foot out of your mouth now.
Ben
May 4th, 2009
1:49 pm
Play Kelly in left field where he began. No way you can tell me Matt Diaz is a better option then Kelly Johnson. Kelly isn’t a leadoff hitter.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
1:49 pm
Clarification:
Saber guys buy the fact the small ball doesn’t work. That was the point.
Previous definition came from the net, not my oversized brain.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
1:50 pm
Reality, if you think our system is “wiped clean,” you are sorely mistake. Perhaps you should look in the mirror and ask yourself if the Mets have the pieces they need to pull off a big mid-season trade (i.e. will they trade Fernando Martinez?).
Have you looked at anyone’s organizational rankings?
Patron Saint of the Lost Art
May 4th, 2009
1:52 pm
chris in md… you’re (1) brings an interesting point that I even heard Leo Mazzone share. Pitchers 10, 15 years ago would have been throwing complete games in the minors, so going nine in the majors was no issue.
Pitchers keep getting injured and are unable to go deep in games. Are pitchers throwing faster than they used to? No. Are breaking balls breaking more than they used to? No.
Pitchers are being babied into believing that six innings and 100 pitches is the limit and everything passed that is gravy. On the radio, Leo consistently laments this trend and hates the idea of a “pitch count.”
Keep an eye on the young pitchers in the Rangers system. Nolan Ryan has taken over and is drastically changing the way his team approaches prospect pitchers by allowing them more innings and pitches. And I think he may know a thing or two about pitching…
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
1:53 pm
I’m with Steve from OH on the sac bunting/small ball thing. Only play that way late when 1 run is needed.
But, for the record, the Braves are actually 3rd in the NL in sacrifices attempted. So don’t blame Bobby for not trying. They’re only successful 62% of the time, though, so 38% of the time they give up an out for nothing.
And on stolen bases, I’d like to see Schafer in a position to run a little, but overall the Braves have been caught 3 times in 7 attempts, so attempting to steal gives up an out AND a baserunner 43% of the time.
I’m all for guys trying to have an intelligent approach to hitting based on circumstances, but I really don’t want the Braves to do a lot of bunting or stealing because they do not have the personnel to do it successfully.
Random
May 4th, 2009
2:01 pm
Original Jon (1:26 pm): ” ’small-ball is an informal and colloquial term for an offensive strategy in which the batting team emphasizes placing runners on base and then advancing them into position to score a run in a deliberate, methodical way. This strategy places a high value on individual runs and attempts to score them without requiring extra base hits, or sometimes without base hits at all, instead using bases on balls, stolen bases, sacrifice bunt or sacrifice fly balls, the hit-and-run play, and aggressive baserunning.’
“That is what small-ball is, waiting for the 3 run jack is called a big inning.
“I got that from Wikipedia. best thing i could find.”
Yeah, but when Wikipedia says “big inning”, it does not mean “waiting for the 3 run jack” (that was your editorializing). Wi-kiped means the following by “big inning”:
“Small ball is a contrast to a style sometimes called the ‘big inning’, where batters focus more on drawing walks or getting extra-base hits and home runs. This may produce many innings with little but strikeouts and flyouts, but occasionally innings with several runs.”
Wiki-ped also equates “small ball” to “. . . an out is traded for a base.”.
Chop Chop
May 4th, 2009
2:07 pm
Steve from OH,
If our organizational ranking doesn’t lead to multiple playoff appearances in the next five to six years, then I will hold you personally responsible.
Random
May 4th, 2009
2:09 pm
Good info, mbatl (1:53 pm) — thanks!
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
2:10 pm
Chop Chop–don’t let Efrim and Lew off the hook so easily, my man.
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
2:11 pm
Patron Saint of the Lost Art
In reply to your post from one of the last blog(s) from my post about the Bret Saberhagen trade to the Mets……I guess I’d forgotten that JS had left to be GM in Atlanta before Bret was traded to the Mets.
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
2:11 pm
I love this. Ollie magically comes down with a bum knee. In the New York Times, Ben Shpigel writes:
“Just as he was about to address his murky future, Perez was intercepted by Jay Horwitz, the team’s vice president for media relations, who spoke with him in the trainer’s room for about 10 minutes… When he came out, Perez said that his knee had been bothering him all season. Asked which knee, he paused and looked down. The right one, he said.”
Maybe the VP “gilloolied” Ollie during that 10-minute meeting!
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
2:14 pm
Steve, Chop’s comment only goes to show how far you have risen in the blog pantheon. Only the righteous among posters are valued enough to get head-hunted, LOL. You’re nobody here until you get blamed for SOMEthing.
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
2:15 pm
Random, you telling me a three run jack is not a homerun? That is kind of contradictory dont you think? I mean, here you say that the big inning is “drawing walks or getting extra-base hits and home runs” but then telling me that I edited it to mean that a 3 run jack is the big inning. I mean, a base hit, a walk and homer would be a 3 run jack, am i right? But according to you and not according to you that would and wouldnt be the definition of a ‘Big Inning’
Kim
May 4th, 2009
2:16 pm
RHR – Yes, his hair isn’t the best, but when he walked out onto the field Friday night, I was mesmerized . . .
He’s so tall and lean. Quite a physical specimen to say the least. And, yes, I found him infinitely more interesting after Carroll’s article. Very impressive work ethic.
KC
May 4th, 2009
2:16 pm
Well, we’d sure as hell better win tonight. Cuz tomorrow, the scheduled matchup is Santana vs. Kawakami (Uh… advantage Mets).
Mike S
May 4th, 2009
2:18 pm
Why not start Infante in LF, when you want to get both he and Kelly in the lineup at the same time (especially with GA out, and if you’re facing a RHP)? You could lead off with Omar and drop Kelly to 5, 6, or 7. (Not permanently of course, but while Omar is on this hot streak)
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
2:20 pm
KC, supposedly the Mets have shuffled the rotation due to yesterday’s rainout, and we’ll see Maine and Hernandez. That’s what I’ve read (and I think DOB or Carroll have reported too, though I’m not sure).
KC
May 4th, 2009
2:20 pm
By the way, I was happy to see Schafer in the leadoff spot the other day. BUT… until he figures out how to repair that hole in his swing (the up and in fastball), he’s just too easy an out for any pitcher than can locate high and tight.
I want him in the leadoff spot, but not until he figures out how to make an adjustment there. And you can’t argue with the results of leading off with Infante so far.
KC
May 4th, 2009
2:22 pm
mbatl, been real busy over here, and haven’t paid any attention today. If that’s true, that’s GREAT news. Though… if Kawakami doesn’t pitch much better, it might not matter who they have on the mound.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
2:22 pm
KC – The ‘mucils moron manager says he is putting JOHAN on 2 extra days rest so he can face the Fils on Wednesday………. no wonder the mutts win didly squat……
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
2:23 pm
KC, gonna be hard to win a game we dont play and tomorrows game is Vazquez vs Maine
Sandlot
May 4th, 2009
2:23 pm
Yeah, according to Joe during yesterday’s game, the Mets shuffled their rotation due to the rainout. The probable matchup for tomorrow’s game is now listed on braves.com as Livan Hernandez vs. Kawakami.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
2:24 pm
Geez, scoots, that must make Bobby Cox Zeus, lol.
Random
May 4th, 2009
2:24 pm
Factoid (1:46 pm): ” ‘The use of small-ball to win games has undergone criticism the last few decades as so called “sabermetrics” has developed.’
“So If you are a Saber guy you buy it. If you don’t buy Saber, you probably don’t buy it”
All right, “Voidoid”, how ’bout some fuller disclosure.
Lemme re-present the excerpt above, with the REST of the paragraph it’s from:
“The use of small-ball to win games has undergone criticism the last few decades as so called “sabermetrics” has developed. One such criticism is that when used earlier in games, the probability of scoring multiple runs is significantly decreased if an out is traded for a base. For instance, the average number of runs scored in major league games in 1999-2002 when there were no outs and a runner on first was .953 runs. The average number of runs scored when there was one out and a runner on second was .725 runs.”
It ain’t a beauty contest, or a popularity poll, or competing ideologies. It’s empirical, dammit.
DWW
May 4th, 2009
2:26 pm
Mike S
Because Infante seems to be the better 2nd baseman.
Bobby's Cox
May 4th, 2009
2:28 pm
Scoots,
Marteen is the second coming of Placidio Polanco, Infante is the 3rd coming, or, even as he’s older and teaches Marteen, he is in fact the 2nd coming of Prado. Try to keep up.
Chop Chop
May 4th, 2009
2:28 pm
Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa…
Santana was 0-2 against us last year. I’ve been told that we own him. How could it be a good thing for us not to face this nothing pitcher that we own?
(By the way, check out the sponsor on Johan Santana’s Baseball Reference page. I’m surprised that a Braves fan didn’t do that.)
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
2:31 pm
Original Jon–Actually, tonight’s game is Vazquez vs Maine and tomorrow is KK vs Hernandez according to the “Series Preview” on the main sports page.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
2:32 pm
Random,
If you buy Sabermetrics, you buy the numbers. If you don’t buy Sabermetrics, you don’t buy the numbers, no matter what the numbers say. It was stated simply. If you don’t buy Sabermetrics it would not matter if the numbers said that a team was ten times more likely to score a run by not playing small ball. It’s not my job to make your case for you. And if I choose not to make your case, then YOU MUST BE VOID of any ideas.
Patron Saint of the Lost Art
May 4th, 2009
2:37 pm
Frank…eh, no problem, it happens.
MatthewH
May 4th, 2009
2:37 pm
I don’t know if anybody saw it on WGN, but the Cubs retired #31 for both Maddux and Ferguson Jenkins. It was great to see Maddux out there. I hope he goes into the Hall as a Brave, but however he goes, I plan to be there.
Steve from OH
May 4th, 2009
2:37 pm
Factoid–for the record, when I started reading this blog a few years ago, I didn’t buy sabermetrics either. I don’t think it’s a matter of whether you believe sabermetrics or not–the numbers are right there. There is no other interpretation…those are the numbers. Period.
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
2:38 pm
Yes, Mets did shift rotation. It’s Main vs. Vazquez tonight, Livan H. vs. Kawakami tomorrow.
DAP
May 4th, 2009
2:38 pm
chop chop
Santana was 0-2 against us last year. I’ve been told that we own him. How could it be a good thing for us not to face this nothing pitcher that we own?
if by “owning” him your informant means barely eeking out 2 or 3 runs and getting a gem from tim hudson, then yes, we own him. you can only own a guy like that so much, though.
Random
May 4th, 2009
2:40 pm
Original Jon (2:15 pm): “you telling me a three run jack is not a homerun?”
No, I’m telling you that “big inning” (at least per Wikipedia) is not “waiting for the 3 run jack”, as characterized by you.
By Wikipedia’s description, you can have a big inning with extrabase hits only, with no HRs necessary. That’s also per Steve from OH — I for one believe him.
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
2:40 pm
I’ll agree to the statements that Kelly is a better bat option than GA and Diaz at this point. As far as putting him back in LF, I’m not so sure. The last time Kelly played LF he had arm problems, and he’s gotten used to making the shortest positional throw in baseball, from 2nd to first. Not saying it can’t happen, but it would probably take a few weeks of long toss and taking flies in batting practice. I don’t see it happening.
I agree with Chris from MD. Kelly has got to be a trade piece. If anything because we do have Infante, Prado, and Diory as replacements, and the fact that we have way too many lefties and an already streaky lineup.
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
May 4th, 2009
2:41 pm
Livan vs. Kawakami? You won’t need A-Rod tipping off pitches to put up some decent offensive numbers in that matchup.
Original Jon
May 4th, 2009
2:41 pm
Hmmmm, I guess we do play a game tonight, my bad, lol. I thought we were off today for some strange reason, my apologies.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
2:43 pm
Lew, me and you have our blog fights on here, but I have to admit that your 11:24 post was probably the best analysis of the NL east I’ve read here and maybe anywhere else. You’re not being a “homer” but telling the truth. I don’t know how anybody can argue those points you made.
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
2:44 pm
Bobby’s, gotcha, LOL. I admit, I am not as sharp as I once was in determining the reincarnation effect on ballplayers!
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
2:44 pm
Chop Chop–
LOL on the sponsor for Santana’s BR page!
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
2:45 pm
DOB–Do you go to Wikipedia for your research? You know it’s such a relible source and all, since anyone can edit the information on it. I can’t believe Original Jon would argue with information found on Wikipedia!!
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
2:46 pm
MatthewH & the rest of the blog including DOB
I thought it was cool when Len Kasper (WGN Cubs broadcaster) mentioned that Maddux had just under 1000 walks for his career…and then said…”999″…and then said…”Right time for you to retire, Greg”
WOW.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
2:46 pm
Original Jon I thought we were off today for some strange reason
Well, seein’ as how they had fifty-million days off in April, I can’t say I blame you…
Run Heap Run
May 4th, 2009
2:46 pm
Stay classy, Philly fans.
http://www.the700level.com/2009/05/metsphillies-rivalry-already-turned-ugly.html
Jersey Gil
May 4th, 2009
2:47 pm
I’m Prefare to face Santana (Lefty) than Hernandez(RHP), The Braves Record are 5-10 again RHP and 6-3 again LHP. Also we are 4-4 in one run game.
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
2:51 pm
It’s funny how the blog hates on players because of debate.
I was reading over the bog yesterday, and saw a few people diss Prado, saying he’s slow by claiming he was “chugging around 3rd” on Ross’s single yesterday. Doesn’t seem to be the case to me.
Ross’s hit was hit pretty solid to CF. Speedy Bourn was charging the ball, got a perfect chest high 1 hopper, and delivered a bullet 1 hopper himself to his catcher. Not too many people in baseball beat that out, and you don’t unless u have some speed and slide the way Prado did.
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=4400437&c_id=atl
Mike S
May 4th, 2009
2:52 pm
problem with trading Kelly now is that his trade value isn’t very high. If you wanted to trade him, it should have been done in the offseason when he was coming off a torrid last month and a half of the season.
I wouldn’t trade him as his trade value likely wouldn’t net much now. He just needs to be dropped down in the order where he is more comfortable. (Then if you really want to trade him, do it when he’s hitting at a more respectable clip) I really think he can be a good player when he’s down a little further in the order. Let Omar leadoff for a bit while he’s hot, and then hopefully Schafer will be ready to take the job soon thereafter.
Frank from KS
May 4th, 2009
2:52 pm
If I were a Ranger pitcher, first game the Yanks face them after A-Roid comes back….I’d be letting him know that tipping pitches to the opposition was not the right thing to do.
I swear, A-Roid makes me sick.
Gummy Bears...Bouncing here and there and everywhere....THEY ARE THE GUMMY BEARS!!!!
May 4th, 2009
2:53 pm
New blog DOB peas
Gary
May 4th, 2009
2:53 pm
L. Hernandez v. Kawakami? Man there’ll be some nice curveballs that night.
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
2:53 pm
If anything because we do have Infante, Prado, and Diory as replacements
Spoken like a man who hasn’t seen Hernandez play much, I’d guess. And regardless of the players of whom Infante and Prado are reincarnate, I can only see “pretender”, not “contender”, if 500 ABs are next to their names. And I like both of those guys.
Random
May 4th, 2009
2:54 pm
Factoid (2:32 pm): “If you buy Sabermetrics, you buy the numbers. If you don’t buy Sabermetrics, you don’t buy the numbers, no matter what the numbers say. It was stated simply. If you don’t buy Sabermetrics it would not matter if the numbers said that a team was ten times more likely to score a run by not playing small ball. It’s not my job to make your case for you. And if I choose not to make your case, then YOU MUST BE VOID of any ideas.”
Bullsiht — it ain’t my case, and it’s already been made.
It ain’t a beauty contest, or a popularity poll, or competing ideologies. It’s empirical, dammit.
Do you want to have a vote on gravity? Or take a poll to decide what the speed of light should be? Why are you pandering to willful ignorance?
Sheesh.
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
2:57 pm
Facing Santana over Livan? LOL keeping things light and funny on here today.
I Failed Math
May 4th, 2009
2:57 pm
I see Sabermetrics frequently used in evaluating talent and performance based on statistical logic associated with the business of baseball. Sabermetrics DOES NOT enjoy the same respect by managers and coaches when it comes to in game strategic decision making. It isn’t Sabermetrics when a manager decides to pinch hit Billy Bob because Billy Bob is hitting .800 against the pitcher the opposition just brought in. That ain’t Sabermetrics, that’s plain old math! I also don’t think a manager calls the front office during a game and says, “ I’m thinking of hitting and running right now. What are the statistical probabilities that it will be successful if I do?”
Like him or not, Bobby Cox ain’t no Sabermetrics manager and neither is Tony LaRussa. I doubt there is a single Sabermetrics manager in baseball when it comes down to making in game decisions based on a Saber chart.
rich brave
May 4th, 2009
2:59 pm
LEW:
Nice trip to the playoffs with POLLYANNA. I’m not quite so upbeat, but have said an 86 win season is in the cards and is a lot better than 72. That puts us on the cusp of a division crown. At least a wild-card potential looking strictly at this division. Now will we improve? Probably. Will the others in our division? Probably. So in my mind its a wash and what you see is what you get. A dogfight between everybody in the division except the NATS. I think the key to our season is to turn the tables on the NATIONALS and go 12-6 against D.C. while splitting hairs with everyone else in the EAST.
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
2:59 pm
Friends
I have gone back and read about half the posts today on the discussion of what is or what isn’t small ball.
Does it really matter? I think most of you are saying the same things. Maybe we should just say that the Braves need to improve in their game fundamentals.
Personally, I am not a big fan of giving up an out. I would only do it with a pitcher at bat and less than 2 outs, or when a run or two (depending on how many runners are on base) wins the game for you. Otherwise, you are just giving up and out.
Doc Holliday
I have read some of your posts this morning, and my friend, you make some good points, but I still contend that it “is” still too early to call it. Too many times over the years have I seen teams come out of nowhere and make a run. Remember the Cubs last summer???
I also don’t think you give enough emphasis to not having Anderson or McCann for most of our games so far. We sure looked good in that first week of the season at 5-1.
Jersey Gil (long time, no talk)
I think I would prefer to NEVER face Santana, if possible! Though we might be 2-0 against him so far, the numbers will eventually catch up to you! Much rather face Livan!
What’s the weather today in ATL?
Doc and McFann
Doc, gotta listen to the lady. Kotchman is our best fielder, hands down. Infante is sure handed, but somewhat limited range and an average arm. A liability in the outfield (which you weren’t talking about).
Actually, I am OK with Escobar’s glove, though he can be erratic at times. I suspect one of our stats guys would tell you how much ground he covers.
KC
May 4th, 2009
3:00 pm
Jersey Gil, we may have done better vs. lefties than righties so far… but if every lefty we faced were like Santana, and every righty were like Hernandez, those numbers would be reversed. Decidedly so.
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
3:01 pm
This Braves team cannot be defined by stats. There are no stats for half of the things this team has done this year on the field, lol.
TnBrian
May 4th, 2009
3:02 pm
Random says, “You keep changing your story son!”
TP is to me, not a great teacher…period! I gave you my reasons why and Chipper’s qoutes on Schafer’s struggles at the plate still doesn’t convince me TP should be given a pass on his teaching skills. I realize Schafer is and will struggle early on in the bigs, but judging from Chipper/Mac/Frenchy/Andruw all getting help/advice that has obviously helped them outside of the Braves tells me TP is a joke.
N Nine
May 4th, 2009
3:03 pm
I’m sad we won’t see Santana, we needed to challenge our hitters against the best. At least we have KK pitching. Go Bravos.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
3:04 pm
Jake – The online mlb.tv guys commented that Prado took a peak while rounding 3rd which made it a bit closer and the fact that Bourn could beat a few thoroughbreds in a foot race
MariettaDerek
May 4th, 2009
3:05 pm
I can’t wait for the boys to get DP to C with it tonight.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
3:06 pm
TnBrian – last time I checked the Schafer-miester had better numbers than all other NL rookies (avg, walks, OBP etc etc)… and he seems to adjust okay so give the kid some time
N Nine
May 4th, 2009
3:08 pm
dogsbrekky- I can’t pull the trigger on your offer.Sorry
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
3:09 pm
The value of having Infante and Prado on the bench is hard to measure, but just imagine not having those guys for double switches, pinch hitting assignments and as a hot standby for Chipper!
Would you feel as good with Diory Hernandez in one of those roles, or heaven forbid, Kelly.
KJ is never going to please 3/4 of the bloggers with his defense. Never. If we could get his bat back to where it has been, I like him at second base. I don’t like him leading off. Prefer Escobar or eventually Schafer.
BUT, I think with Infante or Prado in a full-time role, you weaken yourself in other facets of the game, and possibly show their weak underbelly when overexposing them.
IMHO
Jersey Gil
May 4th, 2009
3:11 pm
I think the Braves Organization is in a slump….Braves 11-13, Gwinnett 10-14,Mississippi 10-12 and the Pelican 9-15.
Another Stat i was looking is “Team LOB” in 2008 the Bravos was First with 1,274 .Team RSP 2,208 second . I was tried to found the Stat of Situational with Frenchy last year coming with RSP and Schafer this year, i can’t found it, but Schafer going to the same situation that Frenchy was last year with RSP. It just bad lock..the player that is slumping came in that situation every time last year and this year.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
3:12 pm
N Nine – yes I see, I need all the help I can get
At least I fluked the trade getting the Tampa 3rd base of Wright which has been nice………. my team apart from him and my SP sucks eggs
flange1
May 4th, 2009
3:14 pm
TnBrian,
I don’t see you logic as to why TP is a BAD hitting coach.
Are you saying because AJ and Frenchy got help from Rudy J that makes TP a bad coach? HUH? Did you ever read DOB’s discussions of how AJ WOULD NOT LISTEN to TP?
Or because BMac and Chipper use their Dad’s for help, that makes TP a bad coach? Again huh?
Why don’t you try one more time and tell us why TP is a bad hitting coach. I am looking to learn!!
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
3:14 pm
Anyone interested and at home – an excellent Redford movie is on HBO Family now
“Downhill Racer” from 1969 or so, good flick
ncscoots
May 4th, 2009
3:14 pm
I also don’t think a manager calls the front office during a game and says, “ I’m thinking of hitting and running right now. What are the statistical probabilities that it will be successful if I do?”
No, but many managers have an instinctive ability for risk assessment in the midst of conflict, and sabermetrics, in many cases, simply quantifies that assessment. It’s not a religion (though some proponents treat it as dogma), nor a philosophy, nor the Holy Grail. It’s just an analysis tool. One shouldn’t consider a hammer as a threat to the Grand Old Game And The American Way Of Life.
Factoid
May 4th, 2009
3:17 pm
Random,
Statistics taken and accepted in a vacuum are worthless! The statistics you state are averages, even you can’t argue they aren’t. Averages include the very best teams at playing small ball and the very worst. Some teams undoubtedly will score more runs playing small ball because they are ABOVE the average and some teams would score even less than the number given as average.
It involves personnel, coaching, and dedication to a style of play. A team that can’t bunt, hit and run and move runners is going to fail and fall below the average. While a team who preaches these fundamentals will probably have numbers above the “average.”
Now as for your brilliant gravity argument, I haven’t seen a rock yet that if dropped from my hand will float. That’s an absolute! On the other hand, I’m sure there are teams who play smallball who will beat the crap out of those Sabermetric averages!
In fact, for Sabermetrics to work, there MUST be teams that are more successful than the “averages” that Sabermetrics states. If you don’t understand averages and how they work, there are numerous great resources online that will explain it to you.
Jersey Gil
May 4th, 2009
3:20 pm
KC..you have a point…but that is the STAT so far this year, This are the Lefty we face & won so fare(I don’t compare Santana in anyway with this Pitcher)…Paul Moholm,jamie Moyer,John Lannan,Zack Duke,Joe Beimel,Scott Olsen.
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
3:24 pm
nscoots and Wayne in UT,
Our bench would be weaker if we traded KJ, but not all that much weaker. Yes ncsoots, I have seen Diory play. His defense, especially in ST, has been terrible. But, in terms of pinch hitting ability, he’d be a good bat off the bench. He had a good bat last year, and has had excellent bat so far this year. Looks like he’s mastered AAA pitching.
dogsbrekky
May 4th, 2009
3:26 pm
Jake are you in Las Vegas?
My dog and I live there (LV) part of the year but have been stuck over east for the last 14 months.
I was wondering if the city had started to get busy again with conventions and the like… am looking at buying a house out at Red Rock when things pick up
Choppinmama
May 4th, 2009
3:27 pm
DOB: now that I’m not able to go to any of the 400 club lunches, you decide to put in an appearance. You know I’d have to ask something that would put your ol’ synapses into high gear! They’re a knowledgeable bunch, so you’d better have a couple of cups of java beforehand.
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
3:28 pm
I’ll admit, you can’t translate minor league success to big league success, as I’m assuming in Diory’s case. But we’d have Prado, Infante, Chipper, and Hubbard to teach him.
Wayne, yes you’d weaken one aspect of your game, the bench. However, would you rather have a weak bench, or a weak starting core? You phrase your argument like you’re sacrificing holing onto KJ only because it’ll weaken the bench if we unload him. I then would argue that is false because if you trade him, you’re obviously getting some major league talent in return that in fact strengthens another aspect of your team.
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
3:30 pm
KJ leading off, Kotchman cleaning up, B Jones in left field, Schafer hitting eighth.
Rock On....
May 4th, 2009
3:31 pm
Denizens, you play your best nine. KJ is NOT in any way one of the Braves best nine. The Braves are hurt by any type of platoon at 2nd base. I think Wayne indicated Prado & Infante are great off the bench for double switches etc. Not so, unless you want to go weak to start the game.
Anyway, it is doubtful KJ will see much action at 2nd base going forward. Cox is seeing the obvious now with Infante and Prado both better options there. Not going to give Cox much credit yet until a permanent move is made though. Look for a KJ trade in ythe not too distant future.
McFann Ô
May 4th, 2009
3:33 pm
Thanks, Wayne! Yeah, Escobar cann be pretty good, but he still makes me nervous…
DOB–
Any word on when BMac starts his rehab assignment in Gwinnett?. Thanks!
Choppinmama
May 4th, 2009
3:35 pm
I’m helping out with my 4-year old nephew, babysitting him at his home for a few days as he is restricted from going back to school for 3 weeks. He decided to launch himself off his bed to try and touch the baseball light on his ceiling fan, missed his landing, whacked his head on the dresser and cracked his skull from forehead through his eye socket and down into his lower face!!
So, I’ve missed the past 2 games, sounds like I helped my blood pressure stay in acceptable bounds after reading in the blogosphere about how we lost. Sheeeeesh!
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
3:35 pm
So this is the lineup?
KJ
Esco
Chipper
Casey
Frenchy
BJ/Ross
Ross/BJ
Schafer
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
3:36 pm
If Bobby’s gonna keep putting Kotchman in the 4th spot, we’ll have to start calling it something other than “cleanup”….any ideas guys?
Hehe, this might get interesting.
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
3:36 pm
“KJ leading off, Kotchman cleaning up, B Jones in left field, Schafer hitting eighth.” – Thanks, DOB.
Wrong again, for me. I had a feeling that during KJ’s down time he and Cox had decided no more KJ at leadoff. Anyway, I’m okay with it. Braves need his bat in the lineup, wherever it is in the order. (and of course if his bat is in the lineup, he needs to perform.)
Willy Wally
May 4th, 2009
3:36 pm
Denizens, you play your best nine. KJ is NOT in any way one of the Braves best nine. (ROCK ON)
Yeah, you’re right, it’s an insult to call KJ top 9 on this team ’cause he’s really one of the best three, and one of the best two when McCann is out.
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
3:37 pm
Wayne, if Chipper were to get hurt, then u simply move Prado to 3rd & start Infante. If Prado and Infante are both already starting, then you put Prado at 3rd, have infante where ever he’s playing, and spot start Diory at 2nd. I’m sure he’d be able to handle 2nd playing SS over the years in the minors, and 2nd this year. There’s still versatility.
And, again, I’d argue to go on mlb.com and see the videos. Search Prado and then Infante. There’s some good videos of Prado’s quick hands on HR’s, his ability to take pitches to RF, etc… Not so sure pitchers will be able to exploit him. His career totals are adding up. And when I say Prado, I mean Infante as well. They’re both solid hitters with good eyes and quick hands, that use the whole field. There’s also a good video of Prado throwing out a Marlin from 3rd while sitting on the ground. Good stuff.
MatthewH
May 4th, 2009
3:38 pm
OK, I have a 1 year old and his room is all baseball, but after reading Choppinmama, I will NOT be getting him a baseball ceiling fan. OUCH!
Serge
May 4th, 2009
3:38 pm
Well said Wally.
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
3:38 pm
KJ Leading off, Kotchman Clean-up, Schafer hitting 8th…EQUALS A loss
WTF is Bobby Thinking…?
I don’t know about most on here but I’d give B. Jones a shot at leading off. If it works good move if not he can’t be worse that what we’ve been doing…
Tomahawkin
May 4th, 2009
3:40 pm
Then again KJ Leading off against the mets might be a good thing. As I recall KJ has hit the mets well throughout the coarse of his career…
MFin04
May 4th, 2009
3:40 pm
Clean Up Hitter –
1) a hitter who clears the bases while batting
2) a hitter who clears the bases by striking out, popping out, or in any such way makes out to end the inning and thus clears the bases
Jake from NV
May 4th, 2009
3:41 pm
This lineup tonight will have a hard time scoring 2 runs. Yesterday’s lineup is about as good it’s gonna get without McCann, and they scored 5. It’s not that hard to see how much better the lineup does when having Infante or Prado in it, especially at the same time.
Tom O'Hawke
May 4th, 2009
3:42 pm
If Bobby’s gonna keep putting Kotchman in the 4th spot, we’ll have to start calling it something other than “cleanup”….any ideas guys?
How about, 2nd inning lead off man?
David O'Brien
May 4th, 2009
3:42 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
Macon Braves (RIP)
May 4th, 2009
3:42 pm
Maybe we should start calling Escobar the “clean up hitter”…..he sure cleans the bases up pretty well with all those double plays.
Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
3:43 pm
Wayne in Utah,
I never called it……. I agree with you, we can come out of nowhere, specially since we are only 2.5 out, but man have we been lucky (fish got cold, phillies slow start). We need to capitalize from this, and we all know braves arent. Not taking 2 out of 3 from houston………huge mistake. Not taking 2 out of 3 from pirates……….big mistake. Not being perfect or 1 lose as worst scenario against nats (2 1run loses?????)………. Those are things we should take advantage of……….I think the fish swept us………..thats just cant happen.
The team can come back…..sure………but not with the offense they are playing and the lack of spirit. All it takes is 1 or 2 great wins and maybe they turn it around, but if you ask me, that is far from happening, they look tired and the season is just starting……….I think they are already tired……..mentally.
Jersey Gil
May 4th, 2009
3:43 pm
Jake from NV ….Please has a little big of Faith….
mbatl
May 4th, 2009
3:43 pm
“I don’t know about most on here but I’d give B. Jones a shot at leading off.”
I suspect that most on here would not agree with that.
Willy Wally
May 4th, 2009
3:44 pm
I’d try Kotchman, Escobar, KJ, Chipper, Frenchy, Jones, Ross, Schafer until McCann and Garrett get back. Then I’d go Escobar, Garrett, Chipper, McCann, KJ, Frenchy, Kotchman, Schafer when and/or if we’re ever at full strength.
Salamander
May 4th, 2009
3:52 pm
Going into the most important stretch of games before the break
Record: 11-13
Runs scored/allowed: 98 (5th lowest in the NL) / 104 (tied for 5th best in the NL)
Overall Pitching: In the top third of the NL (starter stats pulled down by inconsistent bullpen).
Overall Hitting: In the bottom third of the NL. Braves are sporting the 5th lowest HR total in the NL (19), and are 3rd lowest in total bases in the NL (304).
Keys to the next 10 games (5 against the Mets, 2 vs. the Fish, 3 vs. Philadelphia)
(1) Starting pitching is as good or better than it has been.
(2) Braves find some spare power bats in their travel bags.
(3) Bullpen gets it together and CONSISTENTLY keeps the braves in close games.
If the Braves lineup hits like it has been for the past 10 games, then regardless of how good the pitching is, the braves go 4-6 over this critical stretch.
If the Braves hitters rediscover the miracle that is driving in runs (power, steals, timely hits, late inning runs, etc), then the Braves go 7-3.
If the hitting improves, but the bullpen springs leaks, then the Braves go 6-4.
If the hitting doesn’t improve, and the bullpen blows a few, then the Braves go 2-8.
Wayne in Utah
May 4th, 2009
3:54 pm
Jake & Rock On
I am not opposed to trading KJ if you can help the team. I would be comfortable with starting Prado at second base. But, make no mistake, if you count on an unknown like D Hernandez, as often as you use that second utility infielder (Chipper makes it hard to not have TWO good utility infielders on your team), you will be sorry.
I think that the big draw for KJ is his bat (yeah, yeah, I know, he currently sucks). Anywhere else on the field than second base, and he is an offensive downgrade from league average. Really, the only other place you can play him is left field, unless he learns another position.
For my money, if he picks it up with the bat, he is a definite positive on this club. I have faith he will do that.
But, if you can package him and get a righty bat who could hit 25-30 dingers in the middle of the lineup, then that is a trade I would make.
Then I would try to deal one of my other outfielders for a decent backup utility infielder.
Just don’t see those type trades happening this early in the year.
Choppinmama
May 4th, 2009
3:57 pm
McFann: I’m going to the HOF luncheon, reserved a ticket as soon as I heard about the Maddux induction and sure would like to go to the game that night too. I always run into the problem that it’s too far to go back to Woodstock after the lunch, then drive back to Turner F for the game, it’s too hot to hang around the field for 3 or 4 hours before they open the gates, plus if I leave to go anywhere, I’d lose the free parking spot in the green lot! I guess there’s always the Bullpen. But, I’ll let you know and we can meet at the Spahn statue if you go to the game. I have some Braves loot to pass along, not to mention a couple of darling photos of 4-Eyes from spring training. They’re not digital, or I’d have already sent them to you. Long live Doggie.
Hey, DOB: maybe I could come and hang in the press box, do some proofreading, ghost writing or go-fering to pass those idle hours? It IS air conditioned up there after all. DId I ever tell you I sat in your very seat to gain your perspective on one of my many tours of TF? At least you can still see the whites of the player’s eyes from that vantage point. Aren’t some of the other boxes in other parks in the upper hemisphere?
Choppinmama
May 4th, 2009
3:59 pm
um………make that upper “atmosphere.” See how good my proofreading skills is…….er, are?
Kentavo
May 4th, 2009
4:01 pm
Can we just find someone and pump ‘em full of roids so we’ll have a cleanup hitter?
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:02 pm
And Nolie, since you opened your mouth and stuck your foot in it, here you go:
Chipper Jones finished right behind Scott Rolen in the gold glove voting back in 1998. So yea, there was a time when Chipper was an above average defender at 3B. (Coach)
Gold Glove voting means next to nothing Coach. FCS guys have won it who played just a few games in a year at that position. Get real, It’s often a joke.
I know for sure what most of the national analysts thought of him cause I read it every year and disagreed with it. I thought he was average or just below most of the time, but not nearly as abysmally low as many of them said.
Post revisionist history all you want dude, but he was not ever considered an above average defender by scouts or analysts. As for Don, well he’s a Braves announcer; and there were at least 3-4 third basemen who were better that year including Wright, though he didn’t really deserve it either.
Gawd I love homers.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:13 pm
Wonder what would happen if GA told the Whitesox coach he didn’t want to rehab? or Lou Peniella? or the Phillies coach? (Monty)
the exact same thing. Union agreement says that a player can not be forced to do it so that would mean he can’t be cut for not doing it. The only option is to let it happen and if it works out poorly you could DFA him after you can prove that it’s because he isn’t performing. Even then if you did it too quickly you might get into a hassle with the union.
These guys are more like independent contractors with a strong union than they are like employees.
Lady
May 4th, 2009
4:16 pm
They needed a power hitter for left field and got another old DL roster space taker. They needed pitching so they are playing with Glavine and KK and now the rotation holds Reyes and Parr. I really with they would stop with the old and just move on. Glavine retire, Anderson release him and bring up Hanson for the 4th spot and let KK pitch when he thinks his arm is good.
I am really tired of depending on pitchers who are not major league ready because we are playing with the major league retired. Enough is enough. Glavine is done, let him go and move on to Hanson would ya. Anderson is a has been, and its time to either spend some money and sign a player who isnt 40 something or bring up a talent to learn in the field. I would rather bring up the talent.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:26 pm
Why do teammates get high fived when they come back to the dugout after executing a good sacrifice because its “Smart” baseball (SHAFWAF)
why do they always say “if they are trying to give you an out, take it” all the time,Wafer?
The figures Steve quoted are from actual games over the years…that’s what really happened at that percentage. He ain’t making anything up.
As a general strategy it will get you beat on a regular basis. As a tactic in specific situations like needing one run late in the game it can be useful, no doubt.
DirtyDawg
May 4th, 2009
4:29 pm
Bobby’s in between a rock and another rock…he can’t get KJ out of his slump unless he’s in the game…he can’t afford to have him at second for any period of time because he’s a liability…the team has absolutely no options at center field other than the kid who’s, frankly, not a very good hitter at this stage and, from my perspective not the best defensive center in baseball either. I say why not give KJ a try in CF? He’s got some speed and you won’t know about his reactions until you try him out. As for trading the guy, you’re not gonna’ get anything for him until his bat comes back…so, a rock and a rock.
By the way, the definition of ’small ball’ is what Houston did to us yesterday to win the game. What’d they say, everybody but two in their lineup had a sacrifice. Haven’t looked to see the LOB but my guess is they didn’t have much. We got ’schooled’ by the worst team in the NLCentral. The thing about this game is ‘execution’…advancing runners…getting ‘em in from third with less than two outs…not striking out with runners on…getting a fly ball when one’s called for…getting a bunt down. Frankly, we’ve been as poor at executing fundamentals as any team in baseball and that’ll kill ya’ everytime.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:41 pm
2009 rank…………12th……………..just saying (DOC)
just saying what Doc? That the Braves will end up 12th even if they stay healthy most of the rest of the way?
If you are responding to the list of seasonal finishes in runs scored this decade,are you implying that all of a sudden Terry has lost it this year?
I’m not getting the point that you were making. Sorry
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:50 pm
This might have been answered already but has Maddux said if he is going into the HOF as a Brave or Cub yet? I would assume(and hope)that it would be as a Brave. (Tommy Cheese)
It ain’t up to Maddux, so he can’t say. It’s up to the committee
nolie
May 4th, 2009
4:55 pm
Omar Infante may be the second coming of Placido Polanco. Polanco was a utility for a number of years and then blossomed as a starter. (CHRIS MD)
I’d say Prado is closer to that than Infante. Prado’s early stats are eerily similar to PP’s.
nolie
May 4th, 2009
5:00 pm
So If you are a Saber guy you buy it. If you don’t buy Saber, you probably don’t buy it (Factoid)
I dn’t think you hafta be a saber-guy to see what stats from actual games have shown. All you hafta be able to do is read a table. Like I said b4 as a tactic it is useful, as a strategy it is usually self-defeating.
Metropolitan Man1
May 4th, 2009
5:55 pm
Well its that time of the year again. Too bad both teams are scuffling. 1 month is in the books and the GMs for both teams have some explaining to do. 3rd place now hangs in the balance. Hope the braves is just what the Mets need to wake up.
Metropolitan Man1
May 4th, 2009
5:58 pm
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Doc Holiday
May 4th, 2009
6:34 pm
nolie,
Im not saying that TP has lost it, just saying that we are doing terribly in 2009. I dont think TP has anything to do with it…………. Im a PURE COX BASHER………..
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