The Braves, and for that matter way too many major league ballplayers, don’t pay any attention to the base coaches, and certainly not a 3rd Base Coach that isn’t loud enough or aggressive enough to get them to pay attention. For that guy Scnetker (or however he spells it) to just stand there and point to the bag when the kid’s obviously not looking at him is asinine – particularly with the base-running blunders that the Braves have been pulling. I think Bobby needs to do to Yunel what he did to Andruw all those years ago and pull him right now. Prado and Infante and leave ‘em there for a few games at least.
By the way, were you looking Kelly? That’s the way you play second base.
And Matt Diaz is swinging the bat about as sorry as anybody the Braves have ever had.
And, and the worst thing that could have happened this season was for Francoeur to have hit that home run his first AB. Once again he thinks he’s a power hitter…and he ain’t.
Bobby Cox has ONE true base stealer, and he won’t let him budge off first. Come one man. This is bullsh!t. We’ve got to stop waiting to string 3 or 4 hits together.
I like the point Chip makes. Send the runner with the batter down 0-2. If he gets thrown out you get Ross to lead off the following inning, if Ross strikes out he was going to strike out anyway, if he singles you’ve got a chance to score, and if the runner’s safe they’re not going to walk Ross when they’ve got him 0-2. And even if they do, you clear the pitcher.
Well im watching the braves play the cardinals in the 4th ining and i have picked up on a few things. A) omar infante is a way better second baseman than kelly johnson (who is a outfielder by trade) B) casey kotchman really needs to be cut or moved to bench because he CEARLY can’t hit in siuationals. Last night he popped up bases loaded and today he has already stranded 4 runners while hitting into 2 double plays from the 5th spot in the order. JESUS CHRIST bobby cox move kelly back to left, start infante at second, call up lillibridge, and platoon anderson at first with anybody except Kotchman please!!!! its so simple
I certainly am glad I cannot see this on TV or at the ballpark as it is painful enough simply checking it out on-line from time to time. The last few years have been uber painful but this one is shaping up to be other-worldly bad. Going to be a lonnngggg year.
A single by Ross there does nothing. I’d rather give Ross a chance to knock in the run. And if stealing causes the pitcher to walk Ross, great! Then we have 2 men on with a RISP.
So we have a first basemen who can’t hit in the clutch. At least we’re not paying him multi millions like the previous first baseman who couldn’t hit in the clutch.
I usually defend Bobby to the end, because I love him as a manager. But what in the hell is he doing? What is the harm in letting schafer try to snag one. He is taking away so much of his talent. It frustrates me when we can’t score but it pisses me off even more when we do nothing at all to change our offense. 3 SB in what 19 games? Horrendous
This is what I don’t like of Bobby Cox’s style. He never makes an attempt of a straight steal even with his best baserunner who was 5 for 5 in stolen bases. I know that Molina has one of the best if not the best arm for a catcher, but come on risk it. This team is struggling to make runs. The Braves as a team have 3 stolen bases, that’s what Pujols has. For god sake Schafer hasn’t even attempted a steal.
For the love of god if Jo Jo can pitch like this and you fairies can’t get him some runs then every damn one of you needs to wake up in the minor leagues tomorrow.
Oh sorry. Had a flashback to watching Braves games with my granddaddy.
What happened on the Brenden Ryan at bat? Gameday says that Jojo struck him out looking and that he grounded out on the next pitch. Im guessing this is an error.
Glavine did light throwing in the outfield for the third consecutive day without discomfort in his surgically repaired pitching shoulder. Told me he has some discomfort doing things like brushing his teeth and other particular motions that affect the spot in the front of his shoulder that hurt when he took that swing in the minor league game just over two weeks ago, but so far no problems throwing.
He plans long-tossing sessions from about 100 feet Thursday and Saturday, and if that goes well he’ll test the shoulder with a side session on the bullpen mound Monday. “Then we’ll go from there,” he said, adding that he’s “encouraged” by the lack of discomfort when he throws, so far.
Again, 1 example isn’t compelling evidence. Jim Leyritz had an extremely clutch hit. But just how does that suggest it is a repeatable skill? (PWH)
I have mixed feelings about that. In general the larger the sample size the closer that most player’s clutch stats approximate their normal ones and that leads me to believe that it is not a repeatable skill. It is likely to regress to the norm the more often it arises.
However there are some guys who have done better over their entire career in clutch situations. Leyritz is one of them at least to an extent. He hit about 10 points higher in most clutch situations as defined by BaseballRef. There are others and of course many who did worse.
However every rule has some exceptions that prove the rule by their small size. So is it one or the other?
I guess I think that if it is a skill, that it is more along the lines of not choking rather than doing significantly better in the clutch. Baseball is designed to cause failure more often than success in many instances and that muddies the water some too.
Bill James did not believe in it for years, but says he now MIGHT believe a bit. Only the Baseball gods really know and they are so perverse that they’ll likely never tell us.
Im i the only guy that believes casey kotchman is a bum? Yea he carries a 307 average but what good does that in the 5th spot and for a guy with turtle speed
If that’s the Braves we drop that. Funny though…if they drop that fly ball…Esco was going to be hosed again…half way between second and first. I would have laughed.
face it you guys. the braves are one year away from being contenders with no offense. once g. anderson, glavine, and others that dont contribute leave, you use that money to try and get a bat in the middle of the lineup. without a bat to score runs, we will lose alot of one run games this year.
307 average but what good does that in the 5th spot (FUTURE)
well I guess it’s as good there as anywhere and many 5th slot hitters are slow of foot. Not really a job spec for the middle of the line-up. It would have made more sense to emphasize his lack of power I guess, but he does have 8 doubles already doesn’t he?
I certainly don’t think he’s a bum. If nothing else he probably saves a run every few games with his defense and picks on errant throws.
This team is awful at baserunning worst in majors, they are one of the worst hitting team in the majors so theres no suprise there a sub 500 team congrads on 4th place just a shame for these pitchers bet ya derek lowe wish he never signed with a bunch of scrubs thank goodness kelly aint playing and also why is the attendance so freakin bad haha pathetic look like the nationals games
What exactly is so baffling about Kyle Lohse. He virtually has one pitch, which is a pretty good 2 seam fastball, but that pretty much all hes got. His out pitch is a slider/curveball that is used by a more overhand release point. Cant be too hard to pick up, right?
Might be time to take JoJo out? I’m not watching so I don’t know how good he looks, but it’s getting into his dangerous time.
I think I’d take the great 5 innings and thank him profusely. But I will understand if he stays in.
Boy our offense can be a confidence booster for the opposing teams pitcher. Pitch around chipper and you’re good. At this point i’m not even asking for a great offensive game, with our pitching I think mediocre will do. This offense hasn’t even been that its been terrible.
So far the Braves are really been able to keep Pujols in check…pitching has been outstanding to this point. Can we get some run support?….pretty please?
1,878 comments Add your comment
Dan DC
April 28th, 2009
8:15 pm
STEAL!
KC
April 28th, 2009
8:15 pm
DAMNIT… send the runner!!!!!
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:15 pm
Bradford would have been the overall number one pick this year if he came out..and.teabag will be late first round pick at best
mudcat
April 28th, 2009
8:15 pm
Someone check Escobar and see if he’s brain dead or what?
mbatl
April 28th, 2009
8:15 pm
CorkylikesBeer @8:12… way out of line here. Maybe Corky should like Coca Cola for while.
DirtyYuni
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
Schafer…leadoff…now.
bravos2249
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
What exactly did Hudson do to DOB?
DirtyDawg
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
The Braves, and for that matter way too many major league ballplayers, don’t pay any attention to the base coaches, and certainly not a 3rd Base Coach that isn’t loud enough or aggressive enough to get them to pay attention. For that guy Scnetker (or however he spells it) to just stand there and point to the bag when the kid’s obviously not looking at him is asinine – particularly with the base-running blunders that the Braves have been pulling. I think Bobby needs to do to Yunel what he did to Andruw all those years ago and pull him right now. Prado and Infante and leave ‘em there for a few games at least.
By the way, were you looking Kelly? That’s the way you play second base.
And Matt Diaz is swinging the bat about as sorry as anybody the Braves have ever had.
And, and the worst thing that could have happened this season was for Francoeur to have hit that home run his first AB. Once again he thinks he’s a power hitter…and he ain’t.
PWHjort
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
Why the heck would you steal here? So they can walk Ross with a base open and get Jo Jo Reyes to ground out/strike out?
KC
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
Send the runner. If he swipes it, a single scores a run. If they walk him, you get the pitcher out of the way this inning, and run up his pitch count.
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:16 pm
sorry, I thought this was a 18 to party and 21 to drink crowd…sorry everyone! I apologize…Tim Hudson..now that wasn’t so hard was it..
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:17 pm
This dude is the best backup catcher since …. McCann.
18 Wheels of Love
April 28th, 2009
8:17 pm
Kahlil Greene looks exactly like Layne Staley of Alice in Chains.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:17 pm
Infante and Schafer could be a nice combo at 1/2 in the lineup…either way…with Chipper behind them.
Stephen
April 28th, 2009
8:19 pm
So you don’t have the pitcher leading off the next inning, PWH.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:19 pm
(Kids shouldn’t be allowed on here during/after games anyways…parents should know better!!!!)
Ian Curtis
April 28th, 2009
8:19 pm
Why doesn’t Bobby just send him?
CHICKSdigBOBBYball
April 28th, 2009
8:19 pm
braves put up more Os than a box of cheerios
KC
April 28th, 2009
8:20 pm
Bobby Cox has ONE true base stealer, and he won’t let him budge off first. Come one man. This is bullsh!t. We’ve got to stop waiting to string 3 or 4 hits together.
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:20 pm
Good call 18 Wheels.
PWHjort
April 28th, 2009
8:21 pm
I like the point Chip makes. Send the runner with the batter down 0-2. If he gets thrown out you get Ross to lead off the following inning, if Ross strikes out he was going to strike out anyway, if he singles you’ve got a chance to score, and if the runner’s safe they’re not going to walk Ross when they’ve got him 0-2. And even if they do, you clear the pitcher.
FUTURE BRAVES OWNER
April 28th, 2009
8:21 pm
Well im watching the braves play the cardinals in the 4th ining and i have picked up on a few things. A) omar infante is a way better second baseman than kelly johnson (who is a outfielder by trade) B) casey kotchman really needs to be cut or moved to bench because he CEARLY can’t hit in siuationals. Last night he popped up bases loaded and today he has already stranded 4 runners while hitting into 2 double plays from the 5th spot in the order. JESUS CHRIST bobby cox move kelly back to left, start infante at second, call up lillibridge, and platoon anderson at first with anybody except Kotchman please!!!! its so simple
spotts
April 28th, 2009
8:21 pm
a smoke signal…of course, of course! Guess it was Snitker’s fault.
McFann Ô
April 28th, 2009
8:21 pm
Run Heap Run @ 8:17 (last page)–
You got that right!
BTW, just got a big update on MB’s website–our boy is 0-2. [sigh]…
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
McCann 0-2 at A-ball….dont think the problem is fixed…get him more surgery people!!!!
SR
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
I certainly am glad I cannot see this on TV or at the ballpark as it is painful enough simply checking it out on-line from time to time. The last few years have been uber painful but this one is shaping up to be other-worldly bad. Going to be a lonnngggg year.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
KC – Bobby’s been like this….forever. Sadly, it’s not going to change at all.
Treehouse
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
JoJo continuing to look good. Offense, looks like the worst in the majors.
Dan DC
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
A single by Ross there does nothing. I’d rather give Ross a chance to knock in the run. And if stealing causes the pitcher to walk Ross, great! Then we have 2 men on with a RISP.
TNScott
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
KC, Bobby has one true base stealer and where is he batting? 7th!!! Need I say more?
spotts
April 28th, 2009
8:22 pm
We could have Jose Reyes leading off and at the end of the season he’d have like, 6 SBs.
mustrdgasnroses
April 28th, 2009
8:23 pm
FUTURE BRAVES OWNER
Lillibridge was traded in the Vazquez trade.
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:23 pm
LOL I had no idea someone hacked ESPN’s website yesterday and put sparkly unicorns all over it.
TNScott
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
Spot on, Spotts!!!
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
Can we trade Reyes after this start?
CHICKSdigBOBBYball
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
pizza should be here any minute chicks dig pizza
spotts
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
You’d think the future owner of the Braves would know that.
Unless of course, his screen name isn’t true. Come to think of it, I’ll bet that isn’t really Garret Anderson from a Blackberry.
Jake W.
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
Jojo is dealing, Run support….
Ian Curtis
April 28th, 2009
8:24 pm
This offense is ridiculous.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
We have to pinch hit Jo-Jo here….he struggles after 5 innings usually and we need the run badly. I say pinch hit.
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
screen on the green is fun…not for the kids though..18 to party and 21 to drink
Braves20
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
So we have a first basemen who can’t hit in the clutch. At least we’re not paying him multi millions like the previous first baseman who couldn’t hit in the clutch.
zmerk13
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
I usually defend Bobby to the end, because I love him as a manager. But what in the hell is he doing? What is the harm in letting schafer try to snag one. He is taking away so much of his talent. It frustrates me when we can’t score but it pisses me off even more when we do nothing at all to change our offense. 3 SB in what 19 games? Horrendous
Tomas
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
This is what I don’t like of Bobby Cox’s style. He never makes an attempt of a straight steal even with his best baserunner who was 5 for 5 in stolen bases. I know that Molina has one of the best if not the best arm for a catcher, but come on risk it. This team is struggling to make runs. The Braves as a team have 3 stolen bases, that’s what Pujols has. For god sake Schafer hasn’t even attempted a steal.
Treehouse
April 28th, 2009
8:25 pm
Call up Lillibridge?! HAHAHAHA.
David thens, Al
April 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
JoJO wants to stay in the rotation … needs some runs
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
For the love of god if Jo Jo can pitch like this and you fairies can’t get him some runs then every damn one of you needs to wake up in the minor leagues tomorrow.
Oh sorry. Had a flashback to watching Braves games with my granddaddy.
zephyr 8
April 28th, 2009
8:26 pm
What happened on the Brenden Ryan at bat? Gameday says that Jojo struck him out looking and that he grounded out on the next pitch. Im guessing this is an error.
Stephen
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
I hate that guy.
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
FMyLife.com is very funny..but anyone under 18…
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
Glavine did light throwing in the outfield for the third consecutive day without discomfort in his surgically repaired pitching shoulder. Told me he has some discomfort doing things like brushing his teeth and other particular motions that affect the spot in the front of his shoulder that hurt when he took that swing in the minor league game just over two weeks ago, but so far no problems throwing.
He plans long-tossing sessions from about 100 feet Thursday and Saturday, and if that goes well he’ll test the shoulder with a side session on the bullpen mound Monday. “Then we’ll go from there,” he said, adding that he’s “encouraged” by the lack of discomfort when he throws, so far.
nolie
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
Again, 1 example isn’t compelling evidence. Jim Leyritz had an extremely clutch hit. But just how does that suggest it is a repeatable skill? (PWH)
I have mixed feelings about that. In general the larger the sample size the closer that most player’s clutch stats approximate their normal ones and that leads me to believe that it is not a repeatable skill. It is likely to regress to the norm the more often it arises.
However there are some guys who have done better over their entire career in clutch situations. Leyritz is one of them at least to an extent. He hit about 10 points higher in most clutch situations as defined by BaseballRef. There are others and of course many who did worse.
However every rule has some exceptions that prove the rule by their small size. So is it one or the other?
I guess I think that if it is a skill, that it is more along the lines of not choking rather than doing significantly better in the clutch. Baseball is designed to cause failure more often than success in many instances and that muddies the water some too.
Bill James did not believe in it for years, but says he now MIGHT believe a bit. Only the Baseball gods really know and they are so perverse that they’ll likely never tell us.
FUTURE BRAVES OWNER
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
Im i the only guy that believes casey kotchman is a bum? Yea he carries a 307 average but what good does that in the 5th spot and for a guy with turtle speed
Jake W.
April 28th, 2009
8:27 pm
If thats JJ running its a hit
Mixxo
April 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
Ryan’s a ballplayer folks.
BT
April 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
I am beginning to think that the Cards SS maybe just a little better than KJ.
Heath (Cleveland)
April 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
JoJo has really bounced back nicely in this game…much like JJ last night. As was the case last night, very disappointed in our offense tonight.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:28 pm
This is how Jo-Jo’s starts usually go. He always dazzles for 5 innings. There will be a big inning in the 6th or 7th….BANK ON IT!
Mixxo
April 28th, 2009
8:29 pm
BT – He’s better than anyone in our infield…….PERIOD.
bravos2249
April 28th, 2009
8:29 pm
FUTURE BRAVES OWNER
Your the only one who thinks we can call up Lillibridge.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
8:29 pm
There’s the solution to our woes…Glavine coming back.
Stephen
April 28th, 2009
8:29 pm
Lol, spotts.
To Be Continued....
April 28th, 2009
8:30 pm
And the Braves offensive juggernaunt continues……
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:30 pm
So he can throw but not brush his teeth. Well that sounds promising.
Stephen
April 28th, 2009
8:30 pm
Oh hey, another weak pop up, love these bats!
Treehouse
April 28th, 2009
8:30 pm
we stink.
1995
April 28th, 2009
8:30 pm
BRAVES = BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cant take it anymore tonight so watching the Bulls – Celtics.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:31 pm
If that’s the Braves we drop that. Funny though…if they drop that fly ball…Esco was going to be hosed again…half way between second and first. I would have laughed.
MP31
April 28th, 2009
8:31 pm
face it you guys. the braves are one year away from being contenders with no offense. once g. anderson, glavine, and others that dont contribute leave, you use that money to try and get a bat in the middle of the lineup. without a bat to score runs, we will lose alot of one run games this year.
TNScott
April 28th, 2009
8:32 pm
Here’s comes Esco. That man who’s made more wrong turns this week than Psscual Perez.
nolie
April 28th, 2009
8:32 pm
307 average but what good does that in the 5th spot (FUTURE)
well I guess it’s as good there as anywhere and many 5th slot hitters are slow of foot. Not really a job spec for the middle of the line-up. It would have made more sense to emphasize his lack of power I guess, but he does have 8 doubles already doesn’t he?
I certainly don’t think he’s a bum. If nothing else he probably saves a run every few games with his defense and picks on errant throws.
PWHjort
April 28th, 2009
8:32 pm
MFin04, I would’ve assigned Escobar another stupidity point while laughing.
WOW
April 28th, 2009
8:32 pm
This team is awful at baserunning worst in majors, they are one of the worst hitting team in the majors so theres no suprise there a sub 500 team congrads on 4th place just a shame for these pitchers bet ya derek lowe wish he never signed with a bunch of scrubs thank goodness kelly aint playing and also why is the attendance so freakin bad haha pathetic look like the nationals games
Future Braves GM
April 28th, 2009
8:33 pm
Let’s call up Elvis Andrus ASAP
zephyr 8
April 28th, 2009
8:33 pm
What exactly is so baffling about Kyle Lohse. He virtually has one pitch, which is a pretty good 2 seam fastball, but that pretty much all hes got. His out pitch is a slider/curveball that is used by a more overhand release point. Cant be too hard to pick up, right?
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:33 pm
Esco seriously would have been out if that dropped…what is he thinking!!!???
Future Braves GM
April 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
Why haven’t we called up Salty to back up McCann?
Bobby's Belly
April 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
Tommy Glavine, the dragon (breath) slayer!
MP31
April 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
need a bat or this will be a long season
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
They just played, during a between-innings stadium promo, a song that would be one of my top 10 at-bat songs: The Clash’s London Calling. Great into.
The Clash’s “This Is Radio Clash” and “Straight To Hell” should also be on my list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-t52zc8Ex4
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:34 pm
Trade Jo-Jo for a MLB Power Bat!!!
LT-A blogger
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Hard to believe there is a weaker lineup in the entire league- really hard to believe.
McFann Ô
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
The MB game froze again…
Boring on both sides tonight. Wonder what our other minor league teams are up to…?
Treehouse
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Very quick 1-2-3 inning by JoJo. 13 in a row retired. RUNS GUYS! RUNS!
Shane
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Boy you can tell Chip Caray has a hard on for the Cards
nolie
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Might be time to take JoJo out? I’m not watching so I don’t know how good he looks, but it’s getting into his dangerous time.
I think I’d take the great 5 innings and thank him profusely. But I will understand if he stays in.
zephyr 8
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
wow another quick inning for jojo.
WOW
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
JOJO looks awesome just like jurrjens has and this offense doesn’t support their pitchers its a *$#@ shame
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
At least we’ve made Pujols look human thus far. And Cy Reyes out there with his bad self making liars out of all of us.
McFann Ô
April 28th, 2009
8:35 pm
Future Braves GM–
What?
Jake W.
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
Boy our offense can be a confidence booster for the opposing teams pitcher. Pitch around chipper and you’re good. At this point i’m not even asking for a great offensive game, with our pitching I think mediocre will do. This offense hasn’t even been that its been terrible.
Heath (Cleveland)
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
So far the Braves are really been able to keep Pujols in check…pitching has been outstanding to this point. Can we get some run support?….pretty please?
CorkylikesBeer
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
We should propose reyes and krotchman for pujols in a trade
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
I hate Subway…and I hate their commercials….(I am hungry though…$5 isnt too bad…maybe I’ll get one!)
TNScott
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
Are we really going to waste another strong starting performance?!!!
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
In answer to the question about when Hanson would be called up to replace Jo-Jo: If Reyes pitches like he has tonight, not anytime soon.
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
We never got your at bat songs, DOB. Unless the ones you gave on the blog the other night were for serious..
Daybed Wagmoe
April 28th, 2009
8:36 pm
Don’t look now…but JoJo has thrown fewer pitches through 6 IP (83 pitches) than Lohse has through 5 IP (85 pitches).
Not bad after throwing, what, 50 pitches through the first 2 innings.
Mixxo
April 28th, 2009
8:37 pm
Shane – Chip has been a BIG Cards fan since birth. A HUGE Cards fan.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
8:37 pm
Jo-Jo at 83 pitches. I’d be amazed if he went one more and got out of it. Good job so far though! One run…and it was pretty lucky at that.