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Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
10:39 pm
Because it is not that great. If you watch the Cards at all you would know it is their weakness. It is a dumb statement.
To Be Continued....
April 28th, 2009
10:40 pm
SoWeGa Fan…
So you think it was a good AB? You think swinging at pitches out of the strike zone with bases loaded, down a run, pitcher wild and walked a couple already and you’re swinging at balls out of the strike zone is a good AB?
You’re the damn idiot here.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
10:41 pm
Brett,
Thats what I mean…….If he is getting on base why not steal bases?
If we are not gonna use his speed………better trade him for some power, this is just dumb…….. take advantage of the weapon he is………if not………..trade him.
SoWeGA Fanatic
April 28th, 2009
10:42 pm
“Did anyone notice Gonzo was pitching off the center of the rubber instead of the right edge?”
Yeah, every announcer doing the game.
Sir Stealth
April 28th, 2009
10:42 pm
Jo-Jo really stepped up tonight. A superb performance. Moylan and Gonzalez both looked outstanding. The offense has been hard to watch, but we kept putting on the pressure and eventually something got through. Good win, hopefully tomorrow things will come more easily.
Oh, and the bloggers who love to hate still suck. I don’t care how bad the offense gets. Just because things aren’t going well doesn’t mean that whatever we’re not doing or whoever we’re not playing is the magical solution to all the team’s problems. Sometimes you just have to fight through the tough stretches and eek out wins in close games. Hopefully our pitching can carry us til Mac comes back and we can get on a roll.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
10:44 pm
Eric from MO,
Thats exactly what I mean………if he is getting on base how come we only have 3 stolen bases in april.
To Be Continued....
April 28th, 2009
10:44 pm
Diaz on the MLBnetwork interview said outright he wasn’t looking for a walk, he was going to swing away.
I’m a Diaz fan. I really do like the guy. But to decide you aren’t taking a walk in that situation when the guy can’t find the strike zone isn’t smart Baseball.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
10:47 pm
Doc you specifically said he is not trying to get on base…he is just trying to get extra base hits.
Frank from KS
April 28th, 2009
10:49 pm
Doc
What power bat do the Braves go after?
Any names come to your mind?
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2009
10:50 pm
Braves have scored two runs or fewer nine times this season. They’re now 2-7 in those games.
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
10:51 pm
Sir Stealth … watch yourself. Your last post sounded a bit optimistic. It wasn’t that long ago that people that spoke like you, were dragged out of their house, placed in the center of town, and stoned. (and I don’t mean “stoned” in the good way)
David O'Brien
April 28th, 2009
10:51 pm
And check out this stat from my game story:
It was Reyes’ finest game since his last win June 13 at Anaheim, when he gave up two runs and five hits in eight innings. He’s 0-8 with a 6.56 ERA since, and this was just the third Braves win in his 15 starts in that period.
In seven of those 15 games, the Braves failed to score while Diaz was in.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
10:52 pm
To Be Cont it may not been a smart at bat but it was a good at bat. He knocked in the tying and game winning run. Let me ask you this, if the bases were loaded in the bottom of the ninth in game 7 of the World Series and someone hits a potential ball 4 to knock in the tying and game winning run, would be like damn, that was a bad at bat? No you wouldnt. While it was a dumb at bat, it was a good at bat.
mr baseball
April 28th, 2009
10:55 pm
Casey Kotchman has 21 hits and 4 RBI. Jeff Francouer has 21 hits and 13 RBI. Every other Braves’ regular (except Schafer) has double the number of RBI as Kotchman, who is the only regular without a HR.
And who hits cleanup behind Chipper? As I opined earlier, the Braves don’t have a good option to hit 1st, 2nd or 4th. But when confronted with a series of marginal choices, you don’t pick the worst option.
Unless, of course, you’re Chance the Manager.
The Braves won tonight in spite of (not because of) their manager. That happens a lot. Unlike the ’90s, this team is no longer talented enough to overcome the manager’s miscues. Luckily, they did so tonight. Tomorrow, who knows?
spotts
April 28th, 2009
10:55 pm
I’m just spitballin here, but what about Matt Holliday?
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
10:57 pm
Eric from MO,
you are right …..my bad………I thought you were referring to the comment about the stolen bases……….anyway……….about the other comment I made………Im not backing up……..he is hacking more times than not, instead of using his speed……bunting, infield hits……..just putting the ball in play and then go for the steal.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
10:57 pm
Mr Baseball you fail to mention that Francouer hit higher in the order and has had more oppurtunities to drive runners in. RBI’s not a significant stat. Depends entirely too much on runners in front of you.
Chop Chop
April 28th, 2009
10:58 pm
I have no problem with fans “hating” on this team. I just want those fans to balance that hate with some love with the team deserves it. Every damn game is only filled with negatives, there just isn’t a point in being a fan of the team.
Chop Chop
April 28th, 2009
10:58 pm
when, not “with”
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
10:59 pm
re: Reyes
I know it was only ST, but he seemed more like the “prospect Reyes”, this spring, than the guy that pitched like a “shmuck”, everytime he got called up.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
10:59 pm
Frank from KS,
not right now………in april? we are stuck we what we have………..is this what you wanted me to answer? there is your answer.
Chop Chop
April 28th, 2009
11:00 pm
(That post was terrible. Let’s correct it.)
I have no problem with fans “hating” on this team. I just want those fans to balance that hate with some love when the team deserves it. When every damn Braves game is seen as only being filled with negatives for the hometown team, there just isn’t a point in being a fan of the hometown team.
keylargo
April 28th, 2009
11:01 pm
Did anyone notice Gonzo was pitching off the center of the rubber instead of the right edge?”
Yeah, every announcer doing the game.
I’m not sure why you want to be a smart ass SW fan, but I was watching the Cardinals feed for the HD and they didn’t mention it. Why don’t you be a decent Braves fan instead of acting like your peers are the in game idiots? I’m not sure why he changed and if you are so enlighten, why don’t you let me know?
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
11:01 pm
BossLady..
I love Bobby Cox like McFann loves McCann. Young ladies in my dept love him. You have to wonder if their superior intelligence clouds their taste in men.
I hope you’re talking about McCann here and not Bobby?! I can’t tell….McCann has the teddy bear thing going for him, I get that. Not my cup of tea but I get it.
I guess Infante is the only really handsome man to look at during a game.
Chipper is the only one I see, redneck with money…just my type.
And I’m his age people, before anyone comes busting out with that “C” word again…
TNJeff
April 28th, 2009
11:01 pm
Poor fundamentals continue to plague these braves
Escobar’s 2nd straight game with a monumental base running blunder
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:01 pm
Chop Chop that is why im starting to avoid the blog during games. I looked back on the blog and instead of praising Jo Jo, all they did wash bash the offense. It gets old. Normally why by June I stop blogging.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
11:02 pm
DOB,
Is Cox thinking about benching KJ more often? Infante is making hard for cox to bench him…….he is a tough guy
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:03 pm
Key I was watching the Cards broadcasters too and I didnt hear them mention the Gonzo thing either.
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:03 pm
mr baseball …. he’ll never say, publicly anyway, but I’d love to know who Chipper would want batting behind him.
To Be Continued....
April 28th, 2009
11:03 pm
Eric,
The AB produced the winning runs. It turned out well. It was a good win. Any win is good. I think it would be hard to argue that the philosophy Diaz used in that AB will produce good results very often. It was a perfect storm. Bad pitch, bad swing, weak dribbler, Greene breaks late and can’t get the ball. Turned out well.
Let me use a similar fantasy scenario with you. Seventh game of the World Series, Braves down by one in the ninth. Diaz on first. He breaks for second because he thinks he can get the bag. The catcher throws to second, ball beats Diaz by 10 feet. It’s all over. But wait! The second baseman dropped the ball. Diaz was out by ten feet! Wasn’t even close but the guy drops it!
Good play by Diaz or fortunate that the second sacker dropped the throw? Next guy gets a hit and ties the game. The Braves go on and win. (told you it was a fantasy scenario)
Was it a great play by Diaz or fortunate that it didn’t cost the Braves the game?
He was fortunate. The Braves were fortunate. Doesn’t make it a good AB. It’s a fortunate result for an AB, not a good AB.
But I will leave you with this: Pilots say any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. If you want to apply that principle to Diaz AB, then it was a good AB.
mbatl
April 28th, 2009
11:03 pm
Doc, Schafer is NOT Juan Pierre or Willie Tavares. He has good power and there’s nothing wrong with him hitting the ball hard. Nothing wrong with the occasional bunt, but pining for “infield hits?” Really?
In his last 8 games coming into tonight, had a .500 OBP (and a .318 BA and a .455 SLG %), and I’m guessing he didn’t hurt that with 2 hits and a walk tonight.
Frank from KS
April 28th, 2009
11:04 pm
They just mentioned on Baseball Tonight that Holliday is having problems in Oakland. Holliday’s hitting .242 with 0 HR’s so far in 2009.
Maybe the Bravos trade for him and get him back in the NL where he might feel more comfortable.
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
11:04 pm
keylargo -
Chip and Joe mentioned it when he first came out, that he was more centered on the mound, and then when he started throwing strikes to Pujols they noted that he moved back over and was coming off the 3B side again and he kept at it until he mowed ‘em all down. But they didn’t say why he changed, if they knew, they just noticed it and commented on it.
RIPSkip
April 28th, 2009
11:04 pm
I have felt good about Jo Jo all year. I know he’s had it rough, but he’s young. I am TTLY EXCITED about Hanson, Reyes, Morton, Jurjjens, and Hudson as a rotation. Not to mention Vazquez and Lowe. We are really deep in starting pitchers right now.
TNJeff
April 28th, 2009
11:04 pm
why not switch kotchman to third & chipper 4th since Kotch basically has NO power. Bat Frenchy 5th
Run Heap Run
April 28th, 2009
11:05 pm
What happened with Hamels ankle? Was he pitching when it happened? I just saw the headline.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:05 pm
TO Be that is a completely different scenario. That is an error. Diaz just hit it where the Cards werent playing.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
11:05 pm
On the bright side…………we have faced recently a tough marlin SP, and the best 2 staffs in the NL (bucs and cards……..ERA ) Now we are gonna face the muts that only have 3 good pitchers on their staff, the marlins that are having lots of pitching trouble recently and the phillies which are last in pitching in the league
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:07 pm
It’s not like the A’s are in contention anyway. This lineup needs a bat like nothing else.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:08 pm
A right handed bat to boot
TNJeff
April 28th, 2009
11:08 pm
Run Heap Run
Hamels turned his ankle fielding a slow roller in front of the mound. tried to pitch & ankle still bothering him so he left the game in disgust.
Doc Holiday
April 28th, 2009
11:09 pm
mbatl,
more in my favor……….the fastest guy on the team has a .500 OBP last 8 games and gets on base 3 times tonight………but he DOES NOT HAVE A SINGLE STEALING ATTEMPT all season long????????????? what the $·!&%·$%·$//&(%
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:10 pm
keylargo … I didn’t notice anything different about where Gonzo was standing on the rubber. I’m really not that observant when it comes to subtle things as that. If he threw the ball from the 3rd base bag, then maybe I would have noticed. I also watched the Cardinal feed. Their announcers never mentioned it, either.
TnBrian
April 28th, 2009
11:11 pm
WOW, where to start off tonight? Well, I’ll start out by saying that I laughed hard at the comments leading up to the Diaz hit and after were like night and day.
Jo-Jo looked as good as ever and really looks like a new pitcher! Man, he basically dominated a team with the best record in baseball, people. Imagine if he keeps that up and the “problems” the Braves will have on what to do with Glavine and possibly Hanson? So many good things can come out of that. Very impressive and has got me excited!
Even though the offense was shut down for most of the game, Diaz hit could easily turn things around for the confidence in such a mental game. Moylan and Gonzo were sharp, especially Gonzo. Reaching the mid-90’s means he’s really back.
To Be Continued......
April 28th, 2009
11:13 pm
DOB’s last couple of entries say it all.
Braves scoring 2 or fewer runs in 45% of their games. Hard to find a pony when viewing that stat. Cy Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux would have trouble winning with that kind of run support.
Can’t help it. I’m a glass half empty kinda guy. Or at least half empty 45% of the time.
As for giving credit, I have never been sold on Jo Jo. He pitched a whale of a game tonight, can’t deny that fact.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:13 pm
Saw this on Yahoo
One major league scout from a top-tier organization is so high on Atlanta Braves outfielder Jason Heyward that he said he would be willing to give the Braves anyone on his team’s 25-man roster to get him. “The best young hitter I’ve seen in years,” the scout said. “He’ll be leading the league in home runs for 10 years once he gets here.”
To Be Continued......
April 28th, 2009
11:15 pm
Eric,
Its the same thing. Diaz swung at a bad pitch, actually a few bad pitches. Those are bad decisions that turned out well.
The scenario I mentioned is the same thing. A bad decision that turned out well.
No difference.
Frank from KS
April 28th, 2009
11:16 pm
spotts
I think if I remember right……they said Holliday hit 36 last season for the Rocks.
SO that might be the exact remedy the Braves need….but I know one thing…..they need another legimate power bat in the line-up because Chipper and McCann can’t do it all especially when they miss games and they obviously(sp) need some power right now since Frenchy (while his hitting HAS come around a bit better) hasn’t provided in the HR department as of yet.
mbatl
April 28th, 2009
11:17 pm
Doc, well, first off, Schafer was a decent but not great base-stealer in the minors – about 64%, which is not good enough to make running worthwhile according to “the sabremetricians” (sorry, I hate that term, but their research is generally pretty sound). So it’s not like we’re holding Lou Brock back.
I thought he should’ve run tonight in the 4th. And I look forward to seeing him run more when he’s higher in the lineup. But then again, Lohse is tough to run against, and Molina is probably the best throwing catcher in baseball. The odds might’ve been better that Ross hits a gapper that scores him from 1st.
I’m pretty sure the Braves haven’t groomed and protected him so he can bat 7th/8th and never steal a base for his whole career. I like that the Braves are being patient with him, but do understand the frustration of not using our speed (what little we have).
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:18 pm
spotts …. I think it’s way too early for Billy Beane to start selling off. Keep in mind, they’re ahead of the team that should win the division. If or when he considers the A’s out of it, do you really want to give up a bunch of prospects for Holliday? I believe he’s a free agent next year. It could be even worse than the “Tex” trade.
TnBrian
April 28th, 2009
11:18 pm
spotts, you gotta link for that? I believe you, just would be interested in reading it.
Schafer's Wafers
April 28th, 2009
11:19 pm
People this is a game of failures. You are out 7 out of 10 times. We dont need to be so darn negative all the time. (Especially during the game). People will make mistakes its just how you bounce back from those mistakes. Yuni has made two baserunning mistakes the last two days but he is still going out there and playing decent defense.
keylargo
April 28th, 2009
11:20 pm
Tom O’Hawke, EricfromMO, RunHeapRun
Thanks for the info on Gonzo. It’s a lot easier to be helpful than not .
RC
April 28th, 2009
11:20 pm
In that same Yahoo article about Heyward:
“Let me put it this way,” another major league executive said of the 6-4, 220-pound left-handed hitter. “He’s a cross between Dave Parker, Darryl Strawberry and Fred McGriff. How’s that put it? He’s got a chance to be a real superstar.”
Gil In Mechanicsville
April 28th, 2009
11:20 pm
Braves have scored two runs or fewer nine times this season. They’re now 2-7 in those games.… Yes Dave but they are a hard 2-7….
Kentavo
April 28th, 2009
11:21 pm
I don’t know who it would be – but please, this team needs a legit cleanup hitter.
Still, I’m thrilled by the win tonight. Couple of tough games with these Cards.
brent a.
April 28th, 2009
11:23 pm
Very exciting night to be at Turner Field. The last three years, I’ve mostly left there grumbling and complaining, but tonight was refreshingly different.
The Braves and Cardinals both approached this game similarly in that each team’s pitchers decided to pitch safely around the other team’s #3 hitter.
For the Braves, it was a reminder that without another big bat in the line-up, even Chipper’s presence can be worked around effectively.
Also, for both teams this was huge – if you’re gonna pitch around a guy and semi-intentionally walk him, then you’ve gotta get out the men batting ahead of him.
Jo-Jo’s only mistake was hitting the #2 hitter in the top of the first, because that, combined with the Pujols walk, is what made that single a run-scoring single. Get that #2 hitter out, and the inning is over after four batters.
And in the 8th, Infante drew a walk, and that made big difference as the Cards again pitched around Chipper, putting the go ahead run on, out of fear that he’d put the Braves in the lead if he got the chance to swing.
And what about Gonzo in the ninth? Amazing!
We have the makings of a very effective bullpen to back up a good starting rotation that has the potential to improve (with Hanson) if any one guy proves to be a weak link.
Our offense is going to struggle. I really can’t see much way around it, with the reasonable expectation that Chipper and Mac are going to miss some time, and we lack power and speed throughout the bulk of the rest of the line-up.
So, I think the most I can ask of this team is to just “hang around” the next couple of months, and then beg LM and the FO to get a deal done to bring in some offense for the last 2+ months.
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:24 pm
I guess that makes them 8-3 when they score 3 runs or more. (I’m so smart!)
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:24 pm
here’s the link
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AnlR9WnOqFgiT6GD84wPGbgRvLYF?slug=ge-fullcount042809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
The first part’s about Wieters and Price, then they talk about Heyward and a little about Freeman.
I know it’s way early for any team to be considering a trade. I’m just saying I wouldn’t mind seeing Holliday in the lineup. Not sure of the possibility of that, seeing that the fans are leary after the Teixeira fiasco. And I’m pretty sure Holliday is represented by Boras.
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:31 pm
spotts, I wanted to add that “Boras thing”, also. I wasn’t sure, though. Hey, maybe we can do it from within. In ‘96, Andruw started off in A-ball. Then AA, AAA and finally hit 2 HR’s against the Yanks in the first game of the World Series.
RC
April 28th, 2009
11:33 pm
Holliday is represented by Boras. But if the A’s are out of the race, you can bet that Billy Beane will be looking to get something for Holliday. Considering how often the Braves and As have matched up on trades in the past, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Holliday could end up being a 3-month rental player for the Braves, especially if he continues to struggle in Oakland (he’s yet to hit a HR this year). Oakland is a notorious pitchers park, so I’m betting a more neutral field with a return to the NL would help bump up Holliday’s numbers quite a bit. And it should also be mentioned that he was 28-30 on stolen base attempts last year….just in case Bobby decides it’s ok for SOMEONE to have a green light to run.
TnBrian
April 28th, 2009
11:34 pm
spotts, thanks for the link. Who were you suggesting in a trade for Holliday? Not Heyward, right? It wouldn’t happen anyways, but IF the Braves thought they could resign Holliday after the season, I’d definitely consider Freeman/Rohrbough. We do desperately need a big bat. Ok, gonna read that.
brent a.
April 28th, 2009
11:35 pm
Let me cast a vote for not trading Heyward – ever!
The guy is an absolute stud with a beautiful swing. Seeing him for the first time reminded me of seeing a 19-year old Lebron James for the first time.
Just an absolute physical specimen and stand-out.
RC
April 28th, 2009
11:38 pm
TnBrain,
I don’t think there is any way (at least I hope not) that the Braves brass would consider trading Freeman for Holliday. IF the Braves think they can resign him, then why wouldn’t they wait until he’s a free agent after this season and not lose a prospect for him? Freeman is very good defensively, and actually has a power bat. If this organization can just hold off on any major trades of prospects for a couple of years, the future in Atlanta is VERY bright. Like, Jeff Francouer might be a fourth outfielder bright.
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:39 pm
TNBrian …. spotts has a very funny sarcastic sense of humor. He’s gonna get you for your 11:34 post.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:43 pm
Oh I have no idea who we’d trade for Holliday. I could go the route of the average blogger during the offseason and suggest something like “Glavine and Ganderson straight up.”
But I have no idea how to gauge what BB would want. I’d say Holliday is comparable to Teixeira. And the Angels traded Kotchman and a minor league reliever for half a year.
And then the A’s traded Huston Street for Holliday (who’s the west coast version of Blaine Boyer). So I’d say if Jojo or Morton are still looking good by midsummer, we could probably trade one of them with a lower level not elite minor leaguer. We gave up what…Charles Thomas and Juan Cruz for Huddy? Seems like then (and probably now) Beane will just want to get something in return.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:43 pm
Frank from KS and everyone else, have you noticed now that Holiday is away from Coors field he has yet hit a homerun this season?
TnBrian
April 28th, 2009
11:45 pm
RC, yeah, that’s true, but it still wouldn’t surprise me if Wren attempts to see what it’ll take for a 3-4 month rental this summer.I don’t think Holliday will have teams going through a bidding war over him this offseason anyways. He and Boras will get the money they want from someone. Probably Mets/Yanks war that’ll go on.
Tom O’Hawke, the “desperately need a big bat” part?
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:46 pm
Tom – haha…what’d he say that I’ll “get”?
Didn’t see that Rohrbough/Freeman comment, though. I wouldn’t give them up for what could be a rental. We’ll be reminded tomorrow night of what that can do with Wainwright. Plus, I’m real excited about Rohrbough someday…although I still have no idea how to pronounce his name.
Months ago when I started posting on here I asked how to pronounce it, and someone gave some snooty remark. Then DOB agreed and said that remark was funny. So one of my first blog memories is of being shot down. By the man.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:48 pm
Doc up til tonight Schafer has hit in the 8 spot. People who say run there obviously dont know baseball. For instance say you have 2 outs, Ive seen people on here suggest this, and he steals and gets thrown out. Well then the pitcher leads the inning off. Also with the pitcher hitting the opposing team can afford a pitch out to see if Schafer is running. With doing so he will be easily thrown out. As was said earlier Schafer also only made 64% of his stolen bases. Just because your fast mean you are good at stealing bases. You have to be able to get good leads and good jumps. Alot of it is instinct.
woodie
April 28th, 2009
11:48 pm
Enter your comments here
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:48 pm
*doesnt mean
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
11:50 pm
Lol, what is there to talk about so much tonight? We won…2-1…wasnt pretty but who cares…I’ll take ugly 2-1 wins all year long. Offense is really missing a healthy McCann. These guys can’t stay cold forever…KJ, Esco, Diaz, Frenchy…eventually a couple of them are going to get going again. Any word I McCann and more surgery? McCann does not seem like a guy that can stand contacts.
TnBrian
April 28th, 2009
11:51 pm
spotts, Rohrbough(rore-bo)
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:51 pm
“Tom O’Hawke, the “desperately need a big bat” part?”
Brian, it’s getting past my bed time. I’m not following that. Give me a little more, if you would.
K.Street
April 28th, 2009
11:51 pm
**DOB,**
I met Brian McCann tonight at the Myrtle Beach Pelicans, I have to say he seems to be a very nice guy. He had no problem talking to us after the game at all. It was seriously something I will never forget. I would just like to thank him again through the blog.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:52 pm
“You have to be able to get good leads and good jumps”
So how’s he ever going to get better if Bobby keeps him sitting on 1st base? He had 2 opportunities tonight….didn’t move at all.
But with speedy Escobar on base, Bobby finally decides to send a runner.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:54 pm
Dang…I’ve been saying Roar-bow (as in take a bow)
Tom O'Hawke
April 28th, 2009
11:54 pm
“Didn’t see that Rohrbough/Freeman comment, though.”
spotts … yeah, that’s what I was alluding to. It seemed to me to be “just a tad more” than what you had in mind, for a rental.
Eric from MO
April 28th, 2009
11:55 pm
TnBrian, “I’d definitely consider Freeman/Rohrbough”
You are insane. Freeman may be just as good as Heyward. Their numbers are almost identical. They both may be in the majors sometime next season at age 20. Also, Freeman is a 1B. Something we need. I guarentee back in the offseason the no-trade list included Hanson, Heyward, and Freeman.
Rodney Derrick
April 28th, 2009
11:57 pm
Andruw started that game in left for the second night in a row,and as someone noted, also playing first. I believe he played some right field in his first bit of time with the Braves. He always told Bobby he wanted to play short. Maybe he and Elvis Andrus can trade positions some. Plus he and Salty could trade, and he and Millwood could trade. Then Andruw could eventually claim to be the first player from Curacao to play all nine positions and hit X number of home runs as well as having 10 Gold Gloves as a center fielder.
spotts
April 28th, 2009
11:57 pm
Nah, I wouldn’t poke fun of that. Especially after we traded the world for Mark Teixeira….it doesn’t seem TOO out there.
Now the other day when someone suggested we trade for Ryan Braun. Now that’s a horse of a different color.
MFin04
April 28th, 2009
11:58 pm
How good are these kids? I’ve heard a lot about them…but who’s to say they wont be busts? Anyone you can compare them too? Just wondering…I havent really seen anything about 1 or 2 ST games of them playing…garbage time.
marietta dork
April 29th, 2009
12:01 am
Hey guys! I’m an idiot, and that’s TOTALLY pits to chestie! HUHUHUHUH!
Mike
April 29th, 2009
12:02 am
On the Holliday thing…the only way I say we trade for him, is if we have a contract extension in place with him and Boras, so that the moment he’s traded, we lock him up. I would not give up anything of real value just to have him walk at the end of the season. He is a free agent after the season is up.
Eric from MO
April 29th, 2009
12:03 am
Spotts up til tonight he batted 8th as I already stated. As for tonight, dont forget who is behind the plate. Damn people, Molina is the best gun slinger behind the plate. Cant really fault Bobby for not stealing against him.
Tom O'Hawke
April 29th, 2009
12:04 am
spotts … I missed that Braun trade proposal (away for 3 days). Did the blogger offer more than Glavine and Garret?
Tom O'Hawke
April 29th, 2009
12:06 am
Hey, Mr. K.Street
How’d you get to meet BMac? If I don’t ask you, McFann will be hot at me tomorrow.
Eric from MO
April 29th, 2009
12:08 am
Mfin when other teams GM’s and executives are saying they would give anyone on their 25 man roster for them, I have a feeling they are going to be studs. While I never bash the Tex trade because the Braves were trying to win, it is going to look pretty lopsided. However, I dont know if I include Salty because we had no place for him. It was a mistake, but everyone makes mistakes. I think the Braves have learned from their mistakes. That is why Wren refused to trade certain guys.
spotts
April 29th, 2009
12:09 am
Eric – I’m almost positive Schafer’s batted 7th before tonight.
Tom – I really don’t remember the details. But the Brewer’s trading Braun is like the Braves trading McCann (it’s actually LESS likely, as Braun plays everyday and is a lot cheaper for the moment).
MFin04
April 29th, 2009
12:12 am
Schafer has been in the 7th spot a lot with Ross behind him lately. Who are the young guys comparable to?
Tom O'Hawke
April 29th, 2009
12:14 am
spotts …Yes, Schafer has batted 7th before tonight.
spotts(2)… I’m thinking you may be right on Braun. To get him, we’ll hafta offer more than Glavine & G. Anderson, huh?
cabravesfan
April 29th, 2009
12:15 am
spotts-
Not that it makes much of a differnce but the Brewers signed Braun to an 8 year/$45 million deal before last season…
TnBrian
April 29th, 2009
12:19 am
Eric, in a scenario like the one Mike posted above, in that Wren and Boras/Holliday agree on an extension the moment he becomes a Brave. In that case, yes, I’d trade Freeman and Rohrbough for a guy like Holliday. You’re insane if you wouldn’t. He’s a proven All-Star and decent with the glove. But there is no way I’d trade one of those guys, much less both for 3 months of M.H. I guess I needed to clear that up.
Eric from MO
April 29th, 2009
12:20 am
Damn Mfin it has already been stated. Dave Parker, Darryl Strawberry and Fred McGriff all rolled into one.
KC
April 29th, 2009
12:22 am
MBATL, Shafer may have a 63% minor league steal%, but they’ve done a lit of work with him in that area, and it’s been fruitful. His recent success ratio in that area has been far more impressive. Especially over the winter and through this spring.
Eric from MO
April 29th, 2009
12:22 am
TnBrian why would Holliday, who will probably be the big bat in the offseason, sign an extension to play for a .500 Braves team. He has no ties what so ever to them. Hudson did it but it was completely different. One, he grew up a Braves fan. Two it was close to his home. 3 The Braves were good. 4. Boras was not his agent
KC
April 29th, 2009
12:24 am
Bobby won’t let Schafer lead off. It would be too hard to justify not letting him steal.
I don’t get it. If you’re going to chain a runner to 1B, might I suggest Yunel Escobar?
brent a.
April 29th, 2009
12:26 am
Heyward is game changer who plays a position where we sorely lack game-changers.
Freeman, while certainly less athletic looking than Heyward, appears to be a likely upgrade over what we currently have at 1B, (and also simultaneously in the clean-up spot.)
If only 1 of the 2 (Freeman or Heyward) pans out, then we are still almost definitely better off keeping them both, rather than to trade one of them for a rental.
I really do not think that either of these guys should be traded.
Again, Heyward is a specimen who kills the ball.
This morning, I was sitting in the dentist chair and saw Darryl Strawberry on some morning show. Immediately I thought, “that is who Heyward reminds me of!” And sure enough, 12 hours later, I’m reading that scouts are comparing him to Straw (the McGriff comparisons were too easy, especially with Heyward being a Brave).
I think you will all be sad if you don’t see Jason Heyward as an Atlanta Brave.
Freeman, should also be great.
This team, this year, is okay, not great. The thought of Heyward and Freeman, to go along with McCann, Escobar and Schafer, gets me much more excited about the future, than the thought of adding a power bat to this team, and not having these guys for an entire career.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
April 29th, 2009
12:27 am
No puedo correr las bases ya