Braves go for (gulp) a sweep

Turns back on infinity ERA

  Cincinnati – Hopefully Sunday morning’s come down well for you all. Coming to you once more from the Great American Small Park on the banks of the Ohio River, where it’s another gorgeous day, 80s and sunny with low humidity, as the Braves to go for a sereez … series swepe … er, series sweep.
  Pardon me, just had a hard time writing that, difficulty getting my brain around that one when recalling how bad things seemed for this Braves team just a few days ago.
  Then again, it wasn’t long ago when some were calling for Peter Moylan to be sent to Triple-A and others were saying strikeout-plagued Jordan Schafer had been rushed to the majors.
  Look at ‘em now: Moylan, after posting an ERA of infinity in his first two appearances (three hits, five earned runs, no outs), has allowed one hit and one run with nine strikeouts in six innings over his past seven appearances, including a current streak of four perfect appearances.
  

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 And Schafer … whew. Pope of Polk County has shown us all something with his ability to quickly make an adjustment or two in his swing. After getting off to a torrid start, including a homer in his first major league at-bat, the kid went through a brutal 1-for-21 skid with 13 strikeouts and only one walk over six games.

  But in the six games since then, he’s 6-for-16 with three doubles, eight walks and only two strikeouts. Schafer’s had just one hit during the Braves’ three-game winning streak, but he’s walked twice in each of those wins, and hasn’t struck out once.
  ”If he keeps showing the consistency he’s showing now, you’re going to see him move up the order,” Chipper Jones predicted this morning.

  Schafer’s batting seventh today for the second day in a row, after hitting eighth in 13 of the first 15 games.  The eighth spot’s been occupied by catcher David Ross during this weekend series in Cincy, and he’ll probably stay in that spot in the lineup while catcher Brian McCann is on the DL.

 ♣ The winning streak: It’s only three games, but it’s been a salve of sorts for the Braves after the 1-7 skid that preceded it.
  The Braves scored 12 runs during their seven losses in that stretch. They scored 14 runs in the first two games of this series in the Cincy bandbox, while the previously surging home team scored five.
  Can Kenshin Kawakami keep the Reds in the park today as they go for a sweep and winning record on the nine-game trip?
  We’ll see. But I tell you one thing, he better keep the ball down or it could get ugly. Wind’s blowing out to left, the smallest part of the park.
  • Speaking of the winning streak, here’s an unusual stat: The Braves have hit just .220 in the three wins. They have almost as many walks (19) as hits (22), and their pitchers have a 1.33 ERA, compared to 4.90 during the 1-7 skid.
  And then there’s the stat concerning the Braves’ two-out hitting, particularly with runners in scoring position.
  The Braves rank third in the majors with a .304 average with two outs, and rank second in the majors with a .329 average with runners in scoring position.

 ♣ Those numbers above are impressive, but this is absurd: The Braves lead the majors by a huge margin with a .403 average (31-for-77) with runners in scoring position and two outs, 90 points ahead of Milwaukee, the only other NL team above .289.
  ”Let’s start the game with two outs,” hitting coach Terry Pendleton said after being informed of those statistics. “I didn’t know [the Braves were doing that well in those situations]. We should tell [the opposing team], ‘Hey, we’re going to spot you two outs, let’s get it going.’”
  Boston (.369) is the only other major league team hitting as high as .330 with RISP and two outs. The Red Sox’ .485 OBP and .643 slugging percentages in those situations are the only ones even remotely close to the Braves’ .531 OBP and .727 slugging percentage with RISP and two outs.
  Yes, .531 OBP and .727 slugging with runners in scoring position and two outs. Atlanta has 12 extra-base hits (six homers) in those 77 at-bats, and 20 walks.

Chipper, Frenchy like two-out hits

Chipper, Frenchy like two-out hits

  ”Just got to live dangerously for awhile,” Jeff Francoeur said here in Cincy this weekend, about the two-out hitting. “But we don’t need to make a habit out of this all year.”
   Before today’s series and road-trip finale, 26 of the Braves’ 31 runs on this trip have been scored with two outs. All of their runs in four games from Monday to Friday were scored with two outs, the first team to do that in four games since Seattle in 2004.

  Six of their first eight runs Saturday came with two outs, including Chipper Jones’ three-run homer and Yunel Escobar’s two-run homer.
  With RISP and two outs, Francoeur is 7-for-11 with three extra-base hits and eight RBI; Escobar is 6-for-12 with four RBI; Chipper is 3-for-4 with a homer and five RBI; Martin Prado is 2-for-3 with a homer and four RBI; Matt Diaz is 3-for-9 with a homer and four RBI; and Kelly Johnson is 2-for-5 with five RBI.
  In all situations with runners in scoring position, three Braves rank among NL leaders: Escobar has hit .500 (9-for-18) with two homers and eight RBI; Chipper is 5-for-10 with seven RBI; and Francoeur is 8-for-18 (.444) with 10 RBI.
  Martin Prado doesn’t have enough at-bats to quality, but he’s 3-for-6 with a homer and five RBI with RISP.

 ♣ Today’s game: It almost seems a shame that Jo-Jo Reyes can’t face Reds starter Micah Owings in today’s game, because one of them would have a pretty good chance to end a long winless streak.
   Owings is on a Reyes-ian skid, with an 0-9 record and 8.54 ERA in his past 14 games, including 10 starts.
   His last win? That happened to be his last start against the Braves, on May 25, 2008, in Atlanta. The righty allowed two earned runs in six innings that day, and has recorded only one quality start since then.
  Owings went 4-0 with a 2.42 ERA and four quality starts in his first four games in 2008. Since then, he’s 2-11 with a 6.93 ERA in 20 games (16 starts), with 97 hits (14 homers), 41 walks and 69 strikeouts in 88-1/3 innings.

Etc.
  Among NL relievers, Rafael Soriano is tied for the sixth-lowest batting average allowed (.125), and Jeff Bennett (.400) has the third-highest…. Kelly Johnson is 6-for-9 with two homers against Joel Pineiro, the Cardinals’ scheduled starter for Monday’s series opener in Atlanta.

 OK, we’ll close with one of my favorite tunes from a terrific band, Son Volt. And here’s a video to go with it.

“METHAMPHETAMINE” by Son Volt (Jay Farrar)

I took the night shift, another nickel on a dime

Trying to play it straight, make it different this time
Still waiting to meet the next ex-wife

It’s either watching these gauges for Monsanto
Or a barback job for the casino
The army won’t want me after what this body’s been through

Won’t you take me back, North Carolina?

Would you take me back, Arkansas?
Blissful day is still there to remember
Methamphetamine was the final straw

I had a killer job in a backup band
Playing guitar in Branson
Two shows a night brought the money to chase down sin.
Now it’s another weekend lonely at home
Late night TV evangelist drawn
I’m healthy now I really don’t know if I’ll ever be free

Won’t you take me back, North Carolina?
Would you take me back, Arkansas?

Blissful day is still there to remember

Methamphetamine was the final straw

Would you take me back, North Carolina?
Would you take me back, Arkansas?

Blissful day is still there to remember

Methamphetamine was the final straw

924 comments Add your comment

C's

April 26th, 2009
1:02 pm

I hate when people try to be first. ;)

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
1:04 pm

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
1:05 pm

Doc Holiday

April 26th, 2009
1:06 pm

MFin04,

I would do this, not because I hate KJ or because of something personal……but because its a win win situation.

1. KJ hits better down the order.

2. He has shown he can overcome pressure…..he has gone into a horrible slump and he has come out of it or at least times look better for him.

3. You could use this overaggressive yunels approach in your favor. And you could use a teammate (schafer) to get the best out of yunels situation.

Since Cox loves shuffling the lineup, I think he will sooner or later put up this lineup we are talking about and he will like what he sees.

Plus……..protecting out cleanup hitter or 5th hitter with KJ would be great for the team.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
1:09 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

TJ

In the plus direction. But that’s all I’m gonna say. :P

Run Heap Run

Yeah, I know. ;)

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
1:12 pm

Just added a Schafer poll question to the blog

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
1:14 pm

Moving KJ out of the lead off spot has nothing to do with my man love for Schafer. (He’s clearly not ready yet.)

That said, KJ is 3/27 on this road trip.

Really, you don’t need a prototypical lead off hitter at this point.. Just anyone from the lineup that can get on base better than KJ.

ncscoots

April 26th, 2009
1:15 pm

Yes, by all means, put the fastest guy in the lineup just ahead of your best hitter, so that every time the guy is on and uses his speed, he takes the bat right out of said best hitter’s hands. Brilliant.

Somebody call Dayn Perry and tell him he better hurry home, because the village is auditioning new idiots.

Bubdylan

April 26th, 2009
1:15 pm

DOB, what a good song. One of the prettiest choruses, especially, I’ve heard in a long time.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:15 pm

KJ had a pretty good AB but the Reds’ first baseman made a good play on a line drive. I was dozing when Escobar made his out.

Chipper’s worked a 3-2 count. Owings appears to be wild so far.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:16 pm

Chipper singles.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
1:16 pm

It would be nice if Kotch went deep today.

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
1:17 pm

Kotch doesn’t get cheated up there does he? :D

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:18 pm

Kotchman gets jammed. Hits a sharp grounder to the first baseman.

Kawakami in to pitch the bottom of the ninth.

Hope he has figured out the strike zone for this start. Granted, it has been a little flexible in recent past games.

Doc Holiday

April 26th, 2009
1:18 pm

I like it when people use word that dont even know their meaning…………. I just let this intelligent denizens think they are cooler the more they insult other denizens………Thats how you treat a dumb child, right?

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
1:20 pm

Good song, DOB.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:20 pm

Joe just mentioned that the Braves need to play better defense behind KK. I heartily agree.

Nubber back to the mound by Tavaraz. One quick out. KK provided his own defense on that one.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:22 pm

KJ makes a routine play on a grounder from Nix. 2 outs.

KK is making his pitches and getting ahead early in the count. Reds are swinging early.

Votto just got hit on the ankle. Did not look deliberate. Although maybe this was “pay-back” for Yunel getting hit on the hand yesterday.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
1:22 pm

I think Votto should have charged the mound there, then Kenshin could’ve gone all Bruce Lee on him.

JasonInFL (Formerly ME)

April 26th, 2009
1:24 pm

I voted for Logan to bat leadoff. I think he is ready for the chance. Put KJ in a spot to drive in runs. It adds another element to the offense, and at times this year; it may have been the only element. How I would like to see the line-up

Logan
Yunel
Chipper
Mac (Obviously needs to be healthy)
Frenchy
KJ
Kotch
Diaz

Rodney Derrick

April 26th, 2009
1:24 pm

Way to go KK. Not just Lowe knowing baseball. In Japan they must know that you do not let your guys get hit!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:24 pm

Phillips hits the weakest possible nubber, right out in front of the plate. Ross throws him out.

Good, quick inning for KK.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:26 pm

Frenchy pops out to shallow center field on the first pitch from a guy who has shown no command of the strike zone.

Brandon Jones gets his first AB with the big club.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:27 pm

Jones draws a walk. Way to get it started.

Schafer at the plate.

DirtyYuni

April 26th, 2009
1:28 pm

In honor of the poll question, I really do think we oughtta give Schafer a whirl in the leadoff spot. The offense could use a spark (with yesterday being the exception rather than the rule, I think), Kelly’s not hitting well at the top of the order, Schafer’s proven he can make adjustments (at least so far), etc.

Plus, if you move Kelly down in the order, I think this offense becomes so much more potent and you can let Schafer use some of his speed to swipe a couple bags. And please get Krotch out of the cleanup spot. I’d like to see something like this:

1. Schafer
2. Yunel
3. Chip
4. Frenchy
5. Krotch
6. Kelly
7. Diaz/BJ
8. Ross

Hitting Frenchy cleanup scares me a little, too, but he seems to be consistently employing whatever he worked on in the offseason…so, might as well see if he can do it in the 4 hole as well.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:28 pm

Logan nearly Frenchy’s the first pitch. Hits it out of play though.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:31 pm

What I was trying to post on the other blog but never could get it to go thru is that here lately, whatever the title or theme of the blog entry is usually the exact opposite happens. I wanted Dave to title this one No Way In HECK Braves sweep today but instead he went the other way, ergo, Braves won’t win today. :(

Of course I would love to be wrong so Go Braves!

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:32 pm

Talking about DOB again..at bat songs. I asked you this a few blogs back. :)

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:32 pm

Err Joe and Boog were talking about I mean…

elliwg6

April 26th, 2009
1:32 pm

DOB just got a shoutout from Joe and Boog for his musical tastes

Bill

April 26th, 2009
1:32 pm

DOB- Just checked in and your new poll on Schefer was already voted on. How did that happen? I just click on and have not voted.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:33 pm

Logan strikes out swinging on a high, inside pitch.

Ross at the plate.

The question for me on Schafer is not should he hit lead-off, but when should he hit lead-off. When the Braves were scoring tons of runs early and before Logan had his first adjustment, he needed to hit low in the order. Now that the Braves are struggling to score runs (yesterday excepted) and Schafer has adjusted, it’s time to start talking about giving him a chancet.

Ross walks.

KK at the plate. KK strikes out.

Salamander

April 26th, 2009
1:33 pm

Schafer!

Lay off the in-on-your-hands fastball when you have 2 strikes. OK, thanks.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
1:33 pm

They’re talking smack about DOB. Not really, just that he’s a rock/music expert.

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
1:34 pm

Why are the Reds announcers saying that Jordan took HGH? I thought he was just suspended for being associated with it, not for taking it. Are they in the wrong by saying that he took it when he didnt?

Brandon

April 26th, 2009
1:35 pm

Cooks Pest Control commercials are highly annoying..

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:37 pm

Joe and Boog…much ado about “Steven Dust” versus “Seven Dust.”

KK just throws a nasty change, high and outside, that snuck under Bruce’s bat. 2-2.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
1:38 pm

Cookie, Cookie, here comes Cookie, Cook’s Pest Control

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
1:38 pm

DOB, would you please send a mass email out to all the announcers of the opposing teams that Jordan did not test positive for HGH. Tell them you cannot detect HGH in the first place. Also tell them that he was suspended because of involvement with people surrounded with HGH. This is like the 3rd time I have heard announcers saying he tested positive for HGH.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:39 pm

KK walks Bruce to start the inning.

Encarnacion taps a nubber right out in front of the plate. Ross pounces on it and throws Bruce out at second. Nice play, Ross.

E on first, 1 out.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
1:39 pm

Limp Bizkit should do a cover of that Cook’s Pest Control commercial.

brian

April 26th, 2009
1:39 pm

Jon – I believe you are correct and I would assume announcers could get called out for that mistake.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
1:40 pm

Wow that was a beautiful throw by David Ross!

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
1:40 pm

Braves lose offense with Mac out, but Ross’ defense is superb.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

Perhaps, Ross will win the job from McCann..just like McCann stole the job from Estrada

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

There’s no test for HGH so nobody knows if he took it or not, except Logan himself. I have a feeling though that that will follow him the rest of his career, much like Chipper’s hooter thing.

David Ross showing off that arm today huh?

Poorjeff

April 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

Brandon agree…just like the “Logan sh*t”, and the” double pits to chesty” crap…some people need to get a life.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

I’ll tell ya, Ross was a VERY good signing!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

Hit and run. KK throws a ball just out of the dirt. Hernandez swings and misses. Ross GUNS Encarnacion out at second. It looked a little like the “Willie Mays Hayes” play from “Major League” where Hayes slides about 2 feet short of the bag and gets tagged out. That is how far Encarnacion seemed to be on the slide.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
1:42 pm

DOB Boog and Joe just talked about you music collection again. They said you were an expert on everything Rock n Roll. So, I will try again and ask if you ever got a chance to see the band “RLA” in ATL. Like I said, they played frequently at Smith’s Old Bar and a couple of shows at the Roxy. They got great reviews from several ATL mags and radio stations. Just wondered what your thoughts were about them.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
1:42 pm

Ross is a stud!

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:42 pm

Blasphemy, CorkyBeer. Just for that, you can’t sit with us anymore. :)

Brandon

April 26th, 2009
1:42 pm

Poorjeff… double pits to chesty is probably the most annoying phrase ever!!

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
1:43 pm

Thanks Ross… you just saved Kawakami what coulda been a bad inning. Reds hitters chasing awful pitches helped too.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:43 pm

Hernandez hits a sharp grounder right at KJ. KJ makes the routine play and throws him out at first.

KK was wilder this inning than in the first. Threw alot more pitches. But, it was still a very routine, in command inning.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:44 pm

mcfann is still sleeping

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:44 pm

I thought Bobby doesn’t allow the players to listen to rap music…

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:45 pm

I would guess it is Jordan who listens to Paul Wall

Choppinmama

April 26th, 2009
1:45 pm

See David throw.
Throw, throw, throw.
Catch and tag. Catch and tag.
Out, out. Sit down!

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
1:46 pm

I say we just totally ignore Marrietta Derek’s DPTC crap completely. I have a feeling he’s getting a kick out of posting 200 times/blog because everyone keeps commenting on how much they hate it. Nothing but an attention seeker that annoys everyone to death just so they will give him some recognition, even if it’s from annoyed bloggers. Reminds me of a toddler who keeps acting up just to get attention. Rediculous!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:46 pm

KJ leads off for the second time in this game.

This time he hits a grounder to SS for the out.

The ever-excitable Yunel at the plate.

Cooper S

April 26th, 2009
1:46 pm

This V-Cast question segment has made it abundantly clear that Braves players have just awful taste in music.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
1:47 pm

I hate when out fielders dive for balls they don’t need to dive for.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
1:47 pm

Yunel smacks a solid line drive to left center. Taveraz makes a good play to record the out.

Chipper hits a long fly to the left fielder on the first pitch.

Inning over.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:47 pm

James Parr likes John Mayer

MariettaDerek

April 26th, 2009
1:48 pm

Wow, the Bravos didn’t look very double pits to chesty in that inning.

C's

April 26th, 2009
1:49 pm

The answer had GOT to be Logan. No doubt.

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
1:49 pm

Micah Owings been waiting to face the Braves for almost a year, he owns us.

Some may find Kotchi(no HR) hitting cleanup is bad look at Phillips, he’s under .200!

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
1:49 pm

My posts keep getting eaten by the blog monster!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
1:50 pm

This V-Cast “Know Your Music” segment is the silliest thing the Braves Broadcast has come up with in forever. I’m going with McCann on Paul Wall though..

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:50 pm

They should have a scouting report on the umpires

18 Wheels of Love

April 26th, 2009
1:51 pm

Methamphetamine…easily the best song off of The Search by Son Volt. Nice choice.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
1:52 pm

Gonzo..No surprise there.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:52 pm

Is gonzo going to be a free agent after this year?

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
1:52 pm

I say the blog just completely ignores Marrieta Derek’s DPTC crap. It reeks of someone trying their best just to get attention, even if what they are doing is completely annoying. Just like a two year old. When my kids did this sort of thing, if you would just ignore it and not give in to givingthem the attention they are seeking, they would eventually quit. I’m thinking Derek is just a 12 or 13 year old who badly needs attention, so we all need to just ignre his posts!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
1:53 pm

I prefer Windfall to Methamphetamie, but they’re both great. I’m a fan of pretty much every Son Volt song.

C's

April 26th, 2009
1:53 pm

Wow, it’s Gonzo! I’m surprised. I thought that was an easy one.

Poorjeff

April 26th, 2009
1:54 pm

1:48=a@@h*%# has returned.

vabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
1:54 pm

gonzo and soriano are free agents after the year I believe

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
1:55 pm

Ha. DPTC. Is that an abbreviation people are using now?

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
1:55 pm

Can someone please tell me why players when their up to bat…..sometimes can’t hold on to the bat?

Hanley Rameriz was up to the plate just a few minutes ago for Florida…and during one of his swings, he loses the bat as he swung and it went into the stands.

TJ

April 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

Gotcha McFann…LOL. I’m still trying to figure out how to do the smiley things on this new setup. I know it’s been with us a while, but I don’t post here that often and I’m just as apt to screw it up as to get it right…. :)

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

Nscoots wrote:

Yes, by all means, put the fastest guy in the lineup just ahead of your best hitter, so that every time the guy is on and uses his speed, he takes the bat right out of said best hitter’s hands. Brilliant.

Right.

That’s why Jose Reyes and Jimmy Rollins are all wrong for where they hit and the Phillies won the WS last season with their fastest player batting lead off and stealing 47 bases.

Brilliant!

Poorjeff

April 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

Thanks, UGAMAN

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

DOB..do you think we will sign both gonzo and soriano

TJ

April 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

oh, well ignore that last part of my post. I guess I just figured it out… :D

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
1:57 pm

Man, Kawakami is looking really good today. Has the Red’s hitters totally off balance and is keeping his pitch count down. I love it when pitchers pound the strike one. Makes for a quick game when they are hitting their spots. I remember Maddux games would be over in just over two hours, because he just pounded the strike zone with pinpoint accuracy. Kawakami is reminding me of Mad Dog today.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
1:57 pm

That was a great throw by Ross to nab that runner! (Sorry–delayed, I know.)

CorkylikesBeer

Actually, McCann’s not sleeping. I saw him talking to Ross after that inning. Maybe Mac was getting some tips on throwing guys out.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
1:59 pm

TJ

Yeah, those smilies do take a little getting used to. :?

But yeah, you got it. :D

ncscoots

April 26th, 2009
1:59 pm

Coach, try to keep up. The post was in reference to some addled-brain wanting to hit Schafer at 2 ahead of Chipper. Please don’t make me start lumping you in with these other dolts.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:01 pm

Nscoots , shut your damn pie hole.

MariettaDerek

April 26th, 2009
2:01 pm

Brandon single. DP to C!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:02 pm

Kotch grounds out.

Frenchy had a pretty good at bat. Hits a fly almost to the warning track in straight-away center field.

BJones to the plate. 2nd ML AB for the season. Hits a solid line drive single to LF. Hey, he’s batting a 1.000. Put him in the clean-up spot.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:02 pm

I wonder if we ever will see Blanco called up

TJ

April 26th, 2009
2:02 pm

Thanks McFann. Hey, what can I say? I’m easily amused… ;)

Justafan

April 26th, 2009
2:03 pm

Congrat to the Falcons for great picks in draft. Coach Smith was at Gwennett Braves game the other night.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:03 pm

Hey, is the crack team of Bubdylan and McFann working on how to do the “sarcastic color” thing from the previous blog? I bet you can get some “Stimulus” money for that.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

I wonder if the Braves are the slowest team in baseball

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

walk and a single for B. Jones so far in his season debut….

Francoeur gave that last ball a ride to the CF warning track. The power’s coming around for him.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

enter your comments here.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

Yeah, Chop Chop, I did it all for the Cookie, the Cookie, So you can take that cookie, And stick it up your, yeah!! Stick it up your, yeah!! Stick it up your, yeah!! Cook’s Pest Control

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

MCFann..you are a showoff ;)

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:04 pm

Our Braves are back, making a mediocre pitcher look like the ace of a staff.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

All it took was for me to write about how Schafer hadn’t struck out lately … two strikeouts in his first two at-bats.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

Logan strikes out swinging. Now that was Double Pits to Chesty.

Cookie, cookie, cookie…

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

Johnny Bench.

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

We always make this guy look like CY Young. Dang it

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

Maybe we can sell high on Bennett and get a power hitter

Corky’s having a fine season

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
2:06 pm

Oliver Perez sucks!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:06 pm

N Nine. Bennett has zero trade value.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:06 pm

Owens looks like a potential cy young winner

Bubdylan

April 26th, 2009
2:06 pm

Laughing out loud at “turns back on infinity ERA”

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:06 pm

All it took was for me to write about how Schafer hadn’t struck out lately … two strikeouts in his first two at-bats.

Stop doing that. Seriously. :lol: I think you should start writing about how wonderful other teams are. Starting with the Cardinals.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:07 pm

Corky, yes, our Braves are the slowest team in baseball.

In fact, they just may be the slowest team in the entire history of our Braves dating all the way back to 1966.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
2:07 pm

Oliver Perez sucks!

We know!

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:07 pm

Nine..Corky Miller was on Baseball Tonight..last night…

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
2:07 pm

Indeed, Braveheart.

Indeed.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:07 pm

Why do you put a scrolling advertisment on the batter’s eye?

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:08 pm

Next blog entry title: Cards coming to town, Braves have no chance.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:08 pm

Game has come to a stop so that one of the advertising signs in RF can be turned off. Now that’s money well spent.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
2:08 pm

Saban at Dega

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
2:10 pm

Bravesheart

Are you saying *Cookie* as in reference to Steve Harvey’s term?

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:10 pm

PWHjort- That was just a stab at corkylikesbeer(like the name!)

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

Nice pitch by Kawakami. Looking sharp.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

DOB: Let’s hope the Braves don’t mess up with all those numbers w/2 outs and RISP w/2 outs because of this blog, huh?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

KK strikes out Nix on a long at bat. Throws him an inside fast ball that backs up over the plate.

Votto doubles on the first pitch.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

Frenchy? Frenchy? Has anyone seen Frenchy? :lol: That was funny how he wasn’t even in the camera shot for a while..

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

BOOG…I have new respect for him due to his music selection..he has great taste…

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

Literally as I hit submit comment on that last sentence, Joey Votto hits a screamer down 1B line for first Reds hit.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

Wild pitch moves Votto over to third. One out.

KK needs to “Lowe”r the boom on these guys with some SOs.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

Corky would have had that ball smothered….

Curt

April 26th, 2009
2:12 pm

STOP DOING THAT DOB!!!!!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:13 pm

A soooofffft liner over KK. Runner holds at third. 2 outs. I don’t think a ball can be hit softer and still be called a line drive.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:14 pm

See DOB? SEE!!? STOP IT.

Instead of: KK looks great today! Nasty pitch.

Try: KK looks like crap. What a hack.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:14 pm

Home run from Bruce the Moose. Reds…2-0.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:14 pm

I’m available to crush all your dreams and hopes with a mere sentence or two. Call me at 555-…

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:15 pm

We were zipping right along

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
2:15 pm

“Once again the home run ball bites KK.”

-Boog

Greg

April 26th, 2009
2:15 pm

I like Kawakami, but he is very homer prone. Bad park for him to pitch in.

Kawakami

April 26th, 2009
2:16 pm

My soul is in the LF stands. Don’t lose it please.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
2:16 pm

DOB…how about a “Micah Owings looking sharp” or something like that for the denizens?

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:16 pm

There goes the neighborhood. 2-0 Reds.

Bubdylan

April 26th, 2009
2:17 pm

DOB, quick, say “Bubdylan can’t get a date.” Help a brother out.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:17 pm

When is your next off day, DOB?

Carroll! Carroll! Carroll!

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:17 pm

DOB-

DO you hire out? ‘Cause I’ve got a few people who’s hopes and dreams I wouldn’t mind see get crushed…

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:17 pm

That HR just snuck over the LF fence just inside the foul pole. Had the wind not been blowing out, it would have been the third out of the inning. Wasn’t a terrible pitch by KK, something high and outside, out of the strike zone.

C's

April 26th, 2009
2:17 pm

Bruce only gets 1/2 a HR for that. The wind gets the other half. :D

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
2:18 pm

We better re-do this blog. Take it all right now!

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:18 pm

Chipper’s gonna get another HR today. I just feel it..and my feelings don’t suck, like DOB’s do. :lol:

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
2:18 pm

abwright–he missed his spot badly, though.

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:19 pm

Second half rotation: Put Hanson #4 and drop KK to #5

Shane

April 26th, 2009
2:19 pm

Falcons are getting alot of defensive guys in the draft

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:19 pm

Encarnacion flies out to right center.

KK really only made one bad pitch in that inning on the double to Votto.

He looked pissed after the HR and took a few pitches to get back into the groove.

Hope the Bravos can remember that Micah Owings is not the best pitcher in the NL.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:21 pm

Steve from OH, 2:18 pm “abwright–he missed his spot badly, though.

On the HR? That may be so, but he missed out of the strike zone and should have gotten an out.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:22 pm

So when do we start BRIAN MCCANN EYE WATCH 2009 part 2? He’s going to the doc tomorrow…over/under on the number of posts asking for an update before the game- 20?

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
2:22 pm

Can KK bunt?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:22 pm

Ross walks to lead off the inning. KK to bunt.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:22 pm

Joe Simpson plays along with Boog’s bullsh!t too much.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:23 pm

lol @ joe’s song choices for boog.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:23 pm

Love that Boog put Prodigy on his list- that would be a great at bat song

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:24 pm

Two strikes on KK on a couple of sucky bunt attempts.

Wish I knew what was happening in the game, but Joe and Boog are obscuring the game with a stupid graphic.

KK strikes out on another sucky bunt attempt.

Yay, small ball.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:24 pm

Maybe Kelly will get a hit…

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
2:25 pm

Phils just scored.

It’s now 5-1 Phils over the Fish….top 7

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:25 pm

Best at bat song…..”Welcome to the Jungle”

MGL

April 26th, 2009
2:25 pm

So kk Kan’t bunt

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

Or not, seriously, what is he like 3 for his last 30 something?

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

KJ needs a day off badly

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

OH SNAP DOB GETTING SOME TV ACTION.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

KJ skies one to right.

Joe and Boog just indicated that DOB to make a guest appearance on the game soon.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

Next bests song…..”Sweet Caroline”

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

HA. Got your selections ready, DOB?

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:26 pm

Guest appearance by DOB? Or are they just showing DOB’s intro song list?

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:28 pm

That’s it Esco…drive up the pitch count until you get one you like.. then unload on it.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:29 pm

After winning eleven out of their first twelve games, the Florida Marlins are about lose their sixth game in a row. What a strange game baseball truly is.

AJ

April 26th, 2009
2:29 pm

DOB – Please, please, please… do your magic!!! Write that my mother-in-law is coming for a 2 week visit tomorrow!

Steve McP

April 26th, 2009
2:29 pm

If they are balking at paying royalties to play the songs, I can’t see them anteing up union rates to have DOB appear.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:29 pm

or just whiff. either way, get his pitch count up!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:29 pm

I’m actually trying to tune Joe and Boog out and watch the game. I just caught “…AJC’s Dave O’Brien”…”guest appearance.”

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:30 pm

Leave KJ right where he is, Francoeur was fine last season as was AJ in 07.

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
2:31 pm

Marlins are 9-0 against the Nats and Braves. 2-7 against everyone else.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
2:32 pm

Coach

it’s now 8-1 Phils…top 7.

Ya know, the R. Sox played horribly to start and they’ve turned things around.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:32 pm

Hernandez base hit.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
2:32 pm

TJ

You’re welcome!

CorkylikesBeer

What? ;)

cabravesfan over/under on the number of posts asking for an update before the game- 20?

…by me. I mean, we gotta guess how many times other bloggers will ask for an update. :P

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:33 pm

McFann-

So you are telling me I should take the over on that?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:33 pm

KK flattens Janish who was trying to bunt. 1st and 2nd, no one out.

Fast ball rides up and hits him in the shoulder. Ricochets and hits Ross.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
2:34 pm

This guy won’t hit a 3run HR, seriously.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:35 pm

Owings “singles” Ball hits the runner and spoils the double play.

Umpires conferring. Hernandez called out. 1st and Second, one out.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:35 pm

Fortunate break for the Braves there. Barely hit him.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:36 pm

Run Heap Run: The Braves are 1-4 in the games I’ve not covered this season. In other words, 1-4 in the games that Carroll has covered.

So there.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:37 pm

fortunate break? if it doesn’t hit him it’s a double play

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:37 pm

Almost pick off Janish at second. Good throw and tag.

TJ

April 26th, 2009
2:37 pm

cabravesfan: I’ll say over. LOL

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:38 pm

Blaine Boyer made his Cardinals debut last night. He gave up 2 hits, 1 unearned run, struck out a batter, allowed no homers or walks. His ERA is now down to a microscopic 23.14.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:38 pm

Whoever said GnR Welcome to the jungle…you got the band right but I think Sweet Child would make a better intro song. That opening riff is a thing of beauty.

For me? Fortune Faded by the Chili Peppers or Money for Nothing or Jimi Hendrix Watchtower or Judas Priest you’ve got another thing coming….it would take me forever to choose.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:38 pm

Dribbler to short. Yunel’s throw late. Bases loaded. 1 out.

Crap, on the replay it looked like it got him.

CorkylikesBeer

April 26th, 2009
2:38 pm

escobar has an arm

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:39 pm

You’re right, cabravesfan. After watching replay, clear they would’ve had the DP if it didn’t interrupt path of the ball. My bad.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:39 pm

What’s up with the umps? Pay attention. He was out!

Plato

April 26th, 2009
2:40 pm

Hey Joe and Boog….how about more than one replay of such an important play? All the mindless, pointless babbling you both do during the course of a game…can we analyze some of the action instead? PLEASE.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:40 pm

DOB: Oh well….nevermind then. Uh..your hair looks nice today. :)

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:40 pm

Taveras beat the throw to first with speed.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:41 pm

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
2:41 pm

great play from Jeff there…great throw

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:41 pm

OMG! What an incredible play and throw by Frenchy!!!!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:42 pm

What a play.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:42 pm

Haha, what an arm.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:42 pm

Wow!

Nix nails a breaking ball almost down in the dirt. Frenchy makes a good play on the ball for the out. Throws it in and holds the runner at third.

Votto at the plate. Nowhere to put him.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
2:42 pm

Nice throw by Frenchy.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:43 pm

The bazooka in RF is all about respect.

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:43 pm

Well, there goes this game, later guys.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:43 pm

Man, Votto is a beast!

MariettaDerek

April 26th, 2009
2:43 pm

well that wasn’t double pits to chesty at all!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:43 pm

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
2:44 pm

Votto should point to his wounds, turn to Yunel over at shortstop and say, “I feel ya, Yunel. I feel ya.”

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:44 pm

Votto strikes again. Clears the bases with a double. Frenchy couldn’t cut it off and had to chase it all the way to the wall.

Bad pitch by KK. He is deserving his fate this inning.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
2:44 pm

Man, that hit runner really screwed us, didn’t it?

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:44 pm

Let it be noted that I called this at 1:31 pm.

TJ

April 26th, 2009
2:44 pm

This blog is ahead of the radio broadcast I’m listening to, so I’m guessing something bad happened….

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

KK is looking more and more like a fifth starter. I’m in total agreement with bringing up Hanson to obe the fourth starter and moving KK to the 5 spot and then putting JoJo in the bp.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

As I was saying, LOL. 5-0 Reds.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

KK wants desperately to be a GIVE IT UP BOY. But, you need to pitch out of the bullpen for that “honor.”

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

If that was a double play we would have saved 4 runs(so far)

Stephen

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

Get him out, Kawakami doesn’t over power anyone and doesn’t fool Major league hitters.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

Phillips hits a long single over Frenchy’s head. Votto scores.

Looks like the Braves are getting payback for yesterday.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

That one was smoked.

Loooooonnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg single. 6-0.

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

Bases are clear now Bobby here is your Q.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:45 pm

I think kk just tires too easily, This doesn’t look good for later in the year:(

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:46 pm

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
2:46 pm

So, how long does Cox allow this to go on? Till were down by 10?

TJ

April 26th, 2009
2:46 pm

oh. Bases clearing hit. Yeah, I’d say that was bad. :(

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
2:46 pm

Like I said, I think maybe that $7.3M coulda been better spent on some offense instead of an average #4 starter. I really think it was no more than a P.R. move by the Braves.

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:47 pm

Second half rotation: Put Hanson #4 and drop KK to #5 I’d take JoJo at the moment, REALLY.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:47 pm

Back to 9-9 season record and 4-5 on the road trip. I love my .500 baseball team.

Rodney Derrick

April 26th, 2009
2:48 pm

A friend of mine suggested several weeks ago that perhaps Frenchy had lost arm strength. I think he was wrong. Boo! As I write Votto messed up game; I think I will go to the gym instead of waiting this one out. Hit runner stopping double play and this and now Phillips. Does not look like Braves’ day. Bye y’all for now!

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:48 pm

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
2:48 pm

Goodbye.

Jay Bruce.

Outta here.

8-0.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:48 pm

TnBrian, I agree. I think Kawakami will be better than his current stats suggest, but it was a pretty unnecessary acquisition and I think it was more of a PR move than a win-now move.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:48 pm

Solid HR by Bruce. Nothing cheap about that one. 8-0 Reds.

Rob from SC

April 26th, 2009
2:49 pm

I think Tommy Hanson has found his rotation spot

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
2:49 pm

Im sorry you knew he had another in him…….now here is your Q Bobby

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
2:49 pm

Back to 9-9 season record and 4-5 on the road trip. I love my .500 baseball team.

Then go find a new f’ing baseball team and go grace their blog with your sunny personality.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
2:50 pm

OK. Maybe bring Morton up for the 5 spot and put KK in Gwinnett. They won’t do this because they would take a major PR hit in Japan, and with the Asian community in Atl, but obviously, KK doesn’t have the stuff to win consistently over here.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:50 pm

In other news….Phillies up 8-1 in 8th, Nats up 8-1 in 5th.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
2:50 pm

Okay, I’ll take back what I said yesterday about them being a good enough team to go on a nice long winning streak.

I’ll admit when I’m wrong. (Lol)

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
2:50 pm

Another one by Bruce?!! At ‘least’ let him finish the inging.

Where’s the 2-out magic today? 8 runs have scored after 2 outs, and we’re trailing by… 8

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:51 pm

KK out, Buddy in the pitch.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
2:51 pm

I will remind of this from the original blog:

Can Kenshin Kawakami keep the Reds in the park today as they go for a sweep and winning record on the nine-game trip?

We’ll see. But I tell you one thing, he better keep the ball down or it could get ugly.

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
2:51 pm

Steve from OH,Watch out! Coach might chew you out again!

kirkinga

April 26th, 2009
2:53 pm

I think Kawakami right now is similar to Chuck James. He seems ok until the 5th inning or so. I think we should give him some time though because you can see he has descent enough stuff. I think he needs to learn the hitters more and then he’ll be more effective.

Reds are hitting everything today and it’s walk the dog time because we’re not hitting..again.

KC

April 26th, 2009
2:53 pm

I expected good things from Kawakami. As did the Braves, Leo Mazzone, and many others. And it’s still only April. Maybe he’ll settle in at some point. This is a pretty huge adjustment he’s got to make here, and he does seem to have the tools to succeed here… a 90mph fastball, a very good curve, a solid changeup, and a couple of other big league quality pitches.

It’s really his location that’s been the problem, which is surprising, given that control was what he was know for throughout his career. I still think there’s hope that he’ll turn it around to some degree. But I have to admit that I have serious doubts at this point.

I fear that he’s going to be worthless. WORSE than worthless, actually… if he’s single-handedly losing ballgames for the Braves. The Braves aren’t know for free agent busts, but this may be one of them. Very troubling.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:53 pm

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:54 pm

The assassin leads off with a hit.

KC

April 26th, 2009
2:55 pm

Could the Georgia state lemon laws apply here?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:55 pm

Encarnacion makes a great play in foul territory on a Kotchman fly ball. 1 out.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:55 pm

Kawakami, 7.06 ERA.

Steve, kiss my AZZ.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
2:56 pm

Kawakami looks like he is absolutely drained after a few innings just about every one of his starts here. His out pitch is apparantly that cutter, but he’s either not confident with it right now, or the thing is just cutting down the middle. He has not impressed at all.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:56 pm

Frenchy hits a DP ball. Chipper out at second, but F beats it out.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
2:57 pm

I told you this would happen. I knew Kawakami would go through an adjustment period concerning major league hitters and the strike zone. I knew it.

CJ

April 26th, 2009
2:57 pm

Just a few disappointing words on the braves. They have no power, they have no consistency. Their starting pitching has been decent, however Kawakami has not impressed me, Kelly Johnson is not a leadoff hitter, Jordan Schafer is a rookie who is and will learn. Garrett Anderson signing has been a bust. If the braves can somehow hang at .500 until we get healthy maybe there will be a chance. I do not see enough power coming out of our outfield positions, Francouer has turned it around which is good, but Schafer has a lot to learn, and once again Anderson has been a no show. There is plenty of talent in our farm system to trade for some help, including bullpen help. It is hard to watch this team.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
2:57 pm

And Braves answer with a 3 minute top of the 6th.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
2:58 pm

KC,

“I fear that he’s going to be worthless. WORSE than worthless, actually…”

What the hell is that, man? You’re Mr. Positive.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
2:58 pm

BJones lines out to end the inning.

Very punchless offense today.

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
2:59 pm

Jim and Don on the radio broadcast mentioned that the Reds likely picked up on something in KK’s delivery, as though KK was tipping his pitches. Bruce seemed to know what was coming when he hit his HRs.

If KK is tipping his pitches, it won’t be long before the rest of the league catches up, if he doesn’t make the adjustment. It could get really ugly, as if today wasn’t ugly enough…..

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
2:59 pm

Obsessing over what “number” someone is in the rotation is stupid. I don’t care what you call them. Call Javier Vazquez the number 5 and Kenshin Kawakami the number 1. Rotations get so jumbled up within 1 month into the season it doesn’t matter what “spot” in the rotation they occupy, they’re going to make all the starts the club wants them to. Calling this person number 4 and this person number 5 is nothing more than a nominal notion. It doesn’t affect their actual on-field performance or playing time.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:00 pm

I still think KK tires early from the bigger US baseball. I’m sure it tires out his shoulder as he throws more pitches.He’s got crazy stuff, but I think he needs to work on strengthening that shoulder.

I’m not that worried though. He seems like a guy that will go 6 innings every start and give up 2-4 runs. His K’s have been down the last 2 starts (4 K’s), so maybe that’s a little concerning.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
3:00 pm

Could have gave the money of KK and Garett Anderson to Adam Dunn !!!

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:00 pm

At least we only have one starter with a 6+ era…

BravesFAN885

April 26th, 2009
3:01 pm

even if garrett anderson and kenshin kawakami turn out to be busts, wren should still be recognized for getting Lowe, Vazquez, and Ross this offseason. o’flaherty could also be a big plus if he continues his good work.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:02 pm

Tapper back to Carlyle on the mound. 1 out.

I’ve noticed that the Braves seem to be offensively challenged, especially in the last game of a tough road trip and after a big offensive day. Today’s performance is not that surprising.

Fly out to center. 2 out.

At least the bullpen is going to have a bunch of stress free innings to get their ERA down.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
3:02 pm

Hey Coach

Just feel lucky your not a Pirates, Nationals, or (up til this year) a Royals fan and (up til the last few years) a Cub fan….or many other teams.

A .500 team as the Braves are right now is a bunch better than some teams in both leagues.

BravesFAN885

April 26th, 2009
3:02 pm

are you kidding PWHjort? the fifth and first spots in the location get the same playing time. THAT is retarded.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:02 pm

OK I know we got beat by the Nats…but we didn’t get pounded 8-1 like the Mets are getting right now….but we are getting pounded by the Reds, but KK is like our 4th starter, unlike Perez whose what, there 3rd?

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
3:03 pm

Could have gave the money of KK and Garett Anderson to Adam Dunn !!!

Back to math class for you buddy

KC

April 26th, 2009
3:03 pm

PWHjort, no disrespect man, but that’s completely ridiculous. The Braves signed spent 25 million on a PR move? Come on dude. He’s got a lot of big league quality pitches, and he’s always shown excellent control. Braves scouts believed he could be successful here, and after watching a good bit of video, Braves coaches/officials agreed.

He’s lacked command here to a puzzling degree, but there was no reason to expect that coming in.

The Braves signed him because they thought he could be a solid 3rd or 4th starter that would help them win. Period. Frank Wren and Co. weren’t sitting in a office somewhere, wringing their hands and saying “What must the bloggers think of us now?! We’d better sign Kawakami to a 25 million dollar contract quickly to save our image!”

Nothing is better for public opinion and ticket sales than winning. The Braves know that, and that’s why they signed Kawakami… because they believed he could help. I just pray the tide turns here and they are proved right.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:03 pm

Double by Owings (the pitcher) off the wall. Schafer pulled up and played it off the wall, rather than crashing into the wall and giving up a triple.

BTW, Bruce really killed the rally in the 5th with that HR.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:03 pm

About Leadoff:

I’d rather have Schafer up there now. The Braves need to start utilizing his speed. He might struggle initially, but he’s shown that he’s able to make adjustments pretty quickly. What’s the difference between KJ struggling up there (.203 now) or a kid who will eventually be the leadoff hitter? I don’t see any…

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

This is the slowest Braves baseball team in the 44 year history of professional baseball in Atlanta. Do I really need to say ANYTHING ELSE for the blog to put the rest of the puzzle together?

Mike

April 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

All or nothing with the Braves offense. Micah always seems to do well against us. Isnt he the pitcher the tore us up last year and hit a homer…hes from GA right? And I am have some concerns about KK. Its early and he is still learning to pitch here, but I still have some concerns.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

They would have been a better team with Adam Dunn and Tommy Hanson !!!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:04 pm

Yunel throws out Taveras to end the inning.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:06 pm

But dumbfounded, Dunn is slower than Diaz and Anderson. God knows that if he can’t run fast, he’s garbage. Our only good player right now is Schafer, in case you’re keeping track.

If only we had nine Willy Taverases….a blogger can dream, can’t he?

CJ

April 26th, 2009
3:06 pm

Mike, Owings always does great against us? Are you watching the game? Boog just said about 3 innings ago that he is 0-9 in his last 11 starts with an 8.35 era, and he does good against us? Hitting maybe, pitching usually not.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:08 pm

Bobby’s, the only difference I see right now between the two is the potential detriment to Schafer’s development. In time dude, he’ll be there. Might not be too long, either. But not now, I think. Needs to show he can hit, walk and make adjustments more consistently.

I agree that he’s our best option, but we need to give him a bit more time before we put him there.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:08 pm

Schafer strikes out for the third time.

FaninFaytown

April 26th, 2009
3:08 pm

another freaking shafer k… geeeeeeez

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:08 pm

Mike, I think it was a couple of years ago he shut down the Braves and hit two homers in that same game. I remember there was considerable grumbling here about the embarrassment of an opposing pitcher hitting two homers, but he’s proved himself to be quite the threat. Jim and Don on the radio mentioned that the Reds were still mulling over the possibility of converting Owings to the outfield in Spring Training, but here he still is as a pitcher.

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

Coach(3:04), If I had time to copy n paste your posts from last year. Last year it was the worst pitching ever to mankind and now this year you’re going to rant and rant regarding speed.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

Look on the Bright side. KK will most likely face the Astros next. To me that’s the lineup with less power potential, even though they have Berkman, Lee, Tejada, and Pence.

I’d rather him face them than Pujols and Ludwick, or the Mets.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

In Kawakami’s defense this is the first bad outing he has had for us. The last two games that he has pitched the defense caused him a few runs. KJ the dropped DP ball that leads to a 3 run homer. Diaz lost in the lights after chipper takes a ball off the chest for an error. His 1st game he gave up 3. In his defense its still early. Bad ball game here but if he can get back that control he had in Japan and get to know the hitters you never know. It’s too early to right the guy off.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

How many Homeruns do our left field have to date ?! 1 !!!!!! Adam Dunn 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

Ross spoils the shutout with a HR to about the same spot as Bruce’s first HR. A little more authority than Bruce’s.

KC

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

When I look at the results so far, I’d have to say KK is garbage and we’d better hope that 25 million is all he winds up costing us (not the ‘09 season as well).

Again though, he’s got the stuff and the assortment of pitches. It’s just his command. Given the control he’s shown throughout his career, there has to be some hope that he will get it figured out and can be a decent 4th starter.

But as I said before, I’d be lying through my teeth if I said I wasn’t worried about him right now.

I’m REALLY hoping now the Glavine can make it back. Because if KK turns out to be a total flop, we may need Hanson to take over KK’s job.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
3:09 pm

Steve, you must be the dumbest son of a b!tch in your family.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:10 pm

Norton pinch-hitting for Carlyle. This is a good, low-pressure AB and a chancet to improve that BA.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:10 pm

Uhh…glad to see you caught the joke dude….

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:10 pm

Owings isn’t that great a pitcher, but you’d never know it by the way the Braves are swinging (and missing….right, Schafer?) today, Ross’ homer notwithstanding.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
3:10 pm

I won’t make excuses for Kawakami. I just can’t figure him out yet.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:11 pm

Ground-ball to second. 2 out.

KJ at the plate.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
3:11 pm

Those numbers over Micah’s last 11 starts are not against us! He always does good against us: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7936 (I remember that game at The Ted when he homered twice)

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
3:11 pm

Dumbfounded

They didn’t sign Dunn because he’s worthless defensively.

And one more thing…..I’m so sick of all the Hanson talk.

He can’t pitch every damn game, people altho from some of the fellow bloggers….they want him to.

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:11 pm

This offense sucks…and Kawakami is not worth what we are paying him…Jo-Jo, Buddy, and Chuckie James can give up homers too. Kj has got to get out of the leadoff spot…and David Ross should be hitting cleanup if he is the only player with power. Not sure what the hell Bobby is doing with this lineup…but we are making every pitcher we face look like a Cy Young candidate.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

KJ sends a liner out to LF for a hit.

With 2 outs, the Braves should be ready to start scoring some runs.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

KC, Kawakamia isn’t garbage. He’s a Japanese pitcher trying to make the adjustment to American baseball. I tried and tried to tell the blog that this would happen.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
3:12 pm

Awesome throw by Bruce. Not sure what the hell Yunel was thinking.

keylargo

April 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

Estupio Yunnel.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

Esco first pitch swinging, but gets gunned down at second when Yunel tried to stretch the single to a double.

That leaves Chipper standing in the on deck circle, instead of having a chancet of adding a few more runs to the tally.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

In a properly managed rotation, one that doesn’t have an 80% probability of someone going down with a major injury the next year, you let all 5 of your guys pitch during their turn. You don’t skip the 5th spot and they all the amount of playing time the management wants them to. Our 4 and 1/2 man rotations over the past few years have netted us the incredibly durable John Smoltz, Tim Hudson, Mike Hampton, Tom Glavine, etc….

$#!T!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 26th, 2009
3:13 pm

Escobar just ran us out of a potential rally. Way to friggin go.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

We keep running into outs in front of Chipper. That sucks. Give him some RBI chances and see if we can get closer when we’re beeing pounded by the other teams!

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

cabravesfan

Exactly. ;)

OK, this was great–Ross comes up to the plate and I yell, “Hit a homerun!”

First pitch. Outta here!

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:14 pm

DUMBfounded

Last time I checked Diaz has 2 home runs, and for a player that has never hit righties career wise well that’s not that bad. For Dunn to only have 3 more than little ole Diaz is not saying much.

KC

April 26th, 2009
3:15 pm

Chop Chop, contrary to what some people think here, I’m not blind to reality. I just choose to focus on the positive, especially where baseball is concerned. I mean, Braves baseball is (ideally) a pleasant distraction from the daily grind. I’m not the GM, I’m just a fan… so to me, it makes perfect sense to focus on the positive; on the potential of a player or the team as a whole.

BUT… you can’t polish a turd. And so far, KK has been very turd-like.

On the positive tip, as I said before, I still think there’s some hope that he’ll settle in with his command and become a decent 4th starter. But again, I’d by lying my ass off if I said I wasn’t worried about him and that 25 mill we just gave him.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
3:15 pm

OK, Escobar, that was ridiculously stupid. WE’RE DOWN 8 TO 1. You getting into scoring position isn’t going to determine the outcome of the game. That said, we’re down 8 to 1. So it probably wouldn’t matter in the end anyway.

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
3:15 pm

Not smart Esco …..not smart!!!

Got a chance on cutting into their lead with Hoss on deck and you pull this s@it? Dang it!

Name

April 26th, 2009
3:16 pm

Oh look, the Braves again made Micah Owings look like an ace. What is it with this team and Owings and Oliver Perez? Every other team can light them up.

Good one, Escobar.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:17 pm

Well, my old man is a pretty smart and versatile dud…so I’ll take that as a compliment. See, I have the ability to use logic and adapt new ideas, rather than being stuck in the stone age. In addition, I can admit when I’m wrong, and I am able to do something other than make the same old, outdated argument over and over and over and over…and then tell everyone about how smart I am even though it is clearly about #417 on the list of most important qualities a hitter can possess.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
3:17 pm

So what the hell ?!! You are saying the braves are a better team With KK than Adam Dunn and Tommy Handson ?!! I’m not saying pitch tommy every game !! If you would look ! The Braves would have a better rotation with hanson at #5 DAMN IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:18 pm

What is Infante doing in CF? Maybe we should try him in left…or at first….since Kotchman sucks.

KC

April 26th, 2009
3:18 pm

Coach (2010 or bust), I’m not saying he’s garbage. I AM saying that he’s looked like total garbage so far.

But as I’ve said, I think there is still hope that he can settle in with his command and be successful here. He DOES have the stuff to pitch here. He’s just got to rediscover the control that made him what he was in Japan.

I haven’t abandoned all hope… but I do have to admit that I’m worried.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
3:19 pm

What in the name of Albie Lopez is up with this Japanese fella? We wanted a Sony, but looks we bought a Daewoo

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:19 pm

Steve,

It’s my theory that you’re not going to destroy the development or psyche as cocky, errr confident, as Schafer.

His demeanor and ability to adjust is exactly what you need up there IMO.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

There is no pitcher in the Major League scared of pitching to Matt Diaz !! Give me a @#$%! break !!!!!!!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

Parr has a pretty dorky delivery. And Kotchman needs to lose the beard. He looks like a fox.

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

Can we say Schafer got owned today with the hat trick?

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:20 pm

A fox?? Poor choice of words there, PWH. Is he foxxy?

Just messin’…

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:21 pm

Kotchman needs to lose his starting spot…he is soo darn slow on the bases…and I just cant stand that he cant hit for power…and seems nonexistent in some games. Just isnt a typical power first baseman….Id rather see Prado there…if we arent going for a power bat at first.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:22 pm

Steve,

It’s my theory that you’re not going to destroy the psyche or development of someone as confident as Schafer.

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
3:22 pm

Why the hell is KJ in the leadoff spot it is absolutly a joke that he is our leadoff hitter. We struggle to scores runs all the time and we put our worst hitter 1st. WTF. How many people feel that the precious Kelly Andrew Johnsons ego couldnt take that type of ridicule. (Funny his middle name is andrew huh) Folks face it, he cant cut it in the lead spot he is and always will be a 7 or 8 hitter at best. He has absolutluy zero emotion. He is no Tom Glavine in the composer department he just doesnt have the drive. If he was hitting the ball hard it would be different he isnt.

Since April 15th in 34ABs(.117), 4 hits, 3RBIs and 6BB a freakin JOKE.

Prado since April 15th in 14ABs(.357), 5 hits 3 RBIS and 3BB.

Prado would have to go 0-29 ,not get any RBIs ,and not walk more than 3 times in the next 29ABS. That is what Martin would have to do to be as bad as Kelly Johnson. BOBBY is king.

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
3:22 pm

You folks are as fickle as my second wife!

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
3:22 pm

I’m just glad you can post something like that every once in a while to remind us, KC. Credibility doesn’t mean too much on a blog, but I appreciate the little I see.

N8

April 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

I’m telling you guys. I predicted in spring training ended and it was evident that they were sending Hanson to AAA, that my “gut” feeling was that Glavine would eventually get healthy, and be on the team, leaving Hanson’s arrival to depend on another injury, or one of Kawakami or Vazquez sucking.

I actually was leaning towards Vazquez, but he has proven me wrong about him through the first month of ball. Kawakami on the other hand? Really haven’t been that impressed with him at all. By the time Hanson is “ready” to come up, he should easily be the better option over Kenshin.

The simple fact that we (the Braves) were able to reel in Kawakami, tells me all I need to know about his ability, and what the other MLB teams think/thought of him. If he was as good as Bobby and Wren would like us to believe he is, he’d be a Yankee, Red Sox, or Dodger. But he chose Atlanta and we “outbid” everybody.

Enough said.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

Dumbfounded

If you would look up minor league reports Hanson can’t pitch himself out of the 5th without 90 pitches yet. We don’t need our bullpen to be taxed every 5th day like that this early. KK struggled today, and throws a lot of pitches, but he usually can get us to the sixth inning. Until Hanson can lower his pitch count or at least make it to six innings, I see why the Braves haven’t called him up.

With a vet, one start they may go 5, and their next couple of starts you could get seven innings. With a rookie if you only get 4 that first time you don’t know what to expect every fifth day, and you don’t want to rush him. He will be up here soon though, but he won’t take KK spot, he’ll take Jojo’s.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

A couple more feet and I look like a stinkin genius. Ah well. :lol:

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
3:23 pm

Hey..for all the talk of KK

Dice K struggled his first year but put up decent numbers and did VERY well last year.

So give him time.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
3:24 pm

Ross has 28 homers in 133 games and about 350 at-bats at this ballpark.

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:24 pm

KJ shouldnt be batting first.

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
3:24 pm

Those who would rather have Prado playing first base over Kotchman have not been watching the games.

Kawakami seems to lose it after two times through the lineup.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
3:24 pm

The Reds need to find a left fielder that can play left field. These guys look like Adam Dunn or something.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:25 pm

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:25 pm

Yeah, he is a confident kid, for sure. I dunno, I guess my schtick is that 18 games is still a small sample size to evaluate a kid with only a half season of AA at-bats under his belt, and it’s way too small of a sample size to throw Kelly under the bus, either. A LOT can happen between now and June, never mind now and September. I’d just like to see a bit more before we commit him to leading off.

That said, there would be no complaining from me if they did. Just a personal preference, that’s all…

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:25 pm

Waiting for Casey to screw up….prove me wrong.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
3:25 pm

To be a bust Kenshin came in to the day with a lower ERA than C.C. Sabathia. New ball and all. I know his performance today raises that but I just thought I would put it into perspective. New Ball, New League, New Land. Give the man a chance.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:25 pm

I think it’s funny Prado hasn’t played half as much as Kelly and has more hits than him since April 15th…lol

Valkano

April 26th, 2009
3:26 pm

Okay, down by 7 runs, we just had a home run and a single by Johnson. Escobar comes up and gets a hit with Chipper on deck and he runs into the third out. There’s a difference between aggressive and stupid. Hope he got an earful back in the dugout.

Valkano

April 26th, 2009
3:26 pm

Okay, down by 7 runs, we just had a home run and a single by Johnson. Escobar comes up and gets a hit with Chipper on deck and he runs into the third out. There’s a difference between aggressive and stupid. Hope he got an earful back in the dugout.

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:26 pm

A rocket hit by Casey…must have been wrong. Kotchman sucks…he doesnt fit anywhere in our lineup.

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

KK will be ‘aight. The only fat pitch hit was Bruce’s 2nd bomb…………and Votto’s rope.

Ok, that’s two. Sue me!

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

So Micah Owings goes 14 games, 10 starts and nine losses since his last win — which was against the Braves. He’s won two games in his past 12 starts, both against the Braves. He went 0-9 with an 8.54 ERA in between those two wins.

N8

April 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

That being said. We came in and took 2 of 3 from the red hot Reds. Can’t really complain about that.

But I really don’t see Kawakami being a consistent pitcher for us. Think Kyle Davies in his second year. Flashes of brilliance (because the “stuff” is there), yet he has the command of Steve Sax throwing the ball to 1st base. Doesn’t matter how nasty that curveball is, if you can’t locate.

I will say this for him. I bet he could tear our lineup apart. LOL! That would be funny watching these free swingers chase that curvball.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
3:27 pm

Mfin04, I agree with Jake that Kawakami has had some very tough luck if you think about it. Today, he could’ve gotten out of that bad inning if the ball hadn’t hit the runner, plus the errors his defense made his last couple of starts. But, you’re right, he’s NOT worth over $7M!

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
3:28 pm

How many Japanese pitchers have come here, initially struggled, and then got better? For the most part, they seem to be immediate sensations or busts. They sink or swim, and when they sink, they drown.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:28 pm

I honestly would have liked to see Prado or anyone else in camp given a chance to play somewhere and leadoff…probably second…..Kelly doesn’t suck…but like Joe said, he the most inconsistent

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:28 pm

Uh what was that?

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
3:28 pm

B Jones has looked pretty good today

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:29 pm

Found a left fielder. Now we need a first baseman…and need to play Infante and Prado A LOT more.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:29 pm

BJones gets his first RBI of the year. He got sawed off, broke his bat, but the SS fell over and couldn’t throw him out. 8-2 Braves when Chipper scored. Another 2 out run. Just need six more of those.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

DOB, I know, that is unbelievable! How does anybody explain that? All I can come up with is that both he and the Braves see something when they face off that triggers something.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

How can a .300 hitter with a .382 OBP and gold glove defense “[not] fit anywhere in our lineup?” That’s absurd.

The only knock on him right now is that he’s not hitting for power. So what? If he keeps getting on base at a .387 clip and playing excellent defense, I really don’t give to craps. Granted, maybe he shouldn’t be batting cleanup, but he is by no means chopped liver like you suggest he is.

Do some freakin’ research and maybe a little thinking before you post, mmmk?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

Infante skies out to the warning track in left field. A little more carry…

18 Wheels of Love

April 26th, 2009
3:30 pm

Nice stats on Owings, DOB. That’s pretty lame…for us.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

I can’t believe some people are calling for a new first baseman. Those people must just follow the games on gameday or something….

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

Someone badly hurt by that jagged bat end in the stands…..

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
3:31 pm

I haven’t really been impressed with KK at all. But, I’m not ready to write him off yet either.

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

Yeh, Kawakami really has looked pretty good in most of his starts…this was his first really bad one…and the Reds bats were eventually going to wake up. The big problem for the Braves…isnt pitching anymore though. Bullpen is coming around…starting pitching is great…but the offense is horrenous. We can’t score runs. You take away two games where we score 10…and the offense is averaging like 2 runs a game or something…thats not good. We keep running ourselves out of runs/innings as well.

N8

April 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

“To be a bust Kenshin came in to the day with a lower ERA than C.C. Sabathia. New ball and all. I know his performance today raises that but I just thought I would put it into perspective. New Ball, New League, New Land. Give the man a chance.” Jake W.

For starters, C.C. has been VERY successful in this league. His track record shows he can do it. So like all the homers used to say about Tex’s slow starts, “in the end” his numbers will be there (unless he succumbs to the pressure of NY).

As for the “new ball, new league, new land, etc…..” comment? Perhaps he should be in AAA to start the season then, while he adjusts to the ball and the “land”. If Wren didn’t want Hanson “learning” on the job in Atlanta, why should he do it with a free agent we spend decent money on?

But I agree with you. If he gets used to his new surroundings, and can regain the command that he apparently showed in Japan, he might be just fine. But I don’t have any interest in watchig him “attempt to find” that command every 5th day.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

Good to know we found a LF’er after a one game sample. Way to go BJ!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
3:32 pm

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:33 pm

let the chaos begin

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
3:33 pm

Way to get in front of the ball, KJ!

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
3:33 pm

Uggh…chest up, Kelly. None of that “ole” bullspit.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

KJ makes his obligatory boot of the day. Called a hit. Parr in to pitch. Looking like that come-back is in jeopardy.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

Phillies scored 2 td’s and a point after to beat the fish, who could only muster a safety.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

Well Brandon was doing good up here last year and then they sent him down instead of Blanco, shocked a whole bunch of people…like during interleague

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

Kotchman cant drive in runs,,,,he cant hit for power..and he is so slow…he cant score runs. He is great at Defense…but Id rather have some pop at first. Or Prado/Norton.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:34 pm

Parr strikes out Encarnacion.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

Did they ever show DOB’s song list? I missed it if they did.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:35 pm

Another hit. 1st and 2nd. 1 out.

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:36 pm

Jeff321, he needs to make the adjustments, that’s all. It seemed today the Reds knew what was coming after the third inning, and they teed off on the poor guy. If he’s tipping off his pitches, then perhaps McDowell and KK can figure it out. He’s got the stuff, he just needs confidence….

N Nine

April 26th, 2009
3:36 pm

MFin04 did you just say you rather have Prado/Norton at first? LOL..Okay I’m done

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
3:37 pm

but Id rather have some pop at first. Or Prado/Norton.

Dude, you just lost all credibility with that one…Prado or Norton (he of the 1 hit on the year) over Kotchman and his .300 average? Kotchman can hit. He can field better tehn anyone else on the team. He’s not a clean up hitter, but he won’t hit there once Mac gets back. He’s better then Prado and Norton.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:37 pm

Weak grounder to Prado at third. Gets the out at second. Relay to first too slow. 1st and 3rd. 2 outs.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

Parr has been pretty good

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

James Parr’s looking pretty good too

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

Can Parr get a little love with his 2IP and 0 runs?

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

Parr gets a strike out to end the inning.

Ross, Parr (pinch hitter), and KJ get things started.

Can we hope for a Braves-esque walk-a-thon in the ninth?

C's

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

Frank – You are absolutely right about people and Hanson. They will also be disappointed when he doesn’t throw a shutout with 13 Ks every game.

I just wonder how long into his first loss that people will start killing him and want him sent back down?

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

anyone else having a problem with the blog today?

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
3:39 pm

Well thankyou N8 for proving my point. Sabathia has a track record because he was given a chance. Some people are calling KK a bust after 4 starts in the US with some very shaky defense behind him in some of those starts. He may very well be a bust but its to early to tell right now.

By the way bad comparison between him and Hanson. The Braves see him as a future Ace. You don’t want to rush the guy if you don’t have to and watch him lose it. The kid is in his early 20’s and would be a very different kind of rookie than KK. Have you not watched what he’s been doing in triple A so far. I say they made the right decision in dealing with their prized pitching prosepect.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:40 pm

Steve,

I know you and many on here love sample sizes. But I’m talking about pshyce. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Schafer thrive in the leadoff role simple because you’re giving him an ego boost.

Kelly on the other hand, how much more sample size do you need? Some production is better than NO production at this point. Have you watched the past 2+ season? Kelly’s soft psyche is more destroyed hitting 1st than Schafer’s would be…guaranteed. If Schafer happened to get on, the Braves need to utilize his speed. 0 stolen bases for someone as fast as him, for the only person with some kind of speed on this team, is pretty ridiculous. You’re not getting the most out of your players when that happens.

MFin04

April 26th, 2009
3:40 pm

Kotchman is not better hitter than Prado…and he is so darn slow he creates a log jam when he hits middle of the lineup. Never said he couldnt field…just is not a power hitter…and if we are going with a contact guy…why not Prado.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:41 pm

All the kids are going to be good. Parr, Medlen, Hanson. I’m ready to see these kids…

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:41 pm

That broken bat end from Brandon Jones hit a fan in the head. They carried the fan, head heavily bandaged, off on a stretcher. Hope for the best…..

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
3:41 pm

Who is the MFin04 (I don’t want to think of what MF means)???

He thinks the slick fielding first baseman sucks, and he likes Kawakami.

Puzzling….

Be careful, your parents will come up to your room and realize you are on the internet again, and you will be in big trouble then.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
3:42 pm

So Carlyle and Parr lowered their ERA today. Let’s hope Gonzo gets the chance to do it as well.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:42 pm

Ross flies out to LF. 1 out.

Matt Diaz pinch hitting for Parr.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
3:42 pm

Why is Kotchman hitting fourth behind Chipper? No power, but gets on base should be hitting in front of the guy with power and who also gets on base. If you’re gonna hit Kotch up there, at least use some logic and put him third, and Chipper fourth. The stubbornness gets more and more indefensible.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
3:43 pm

Steve,

I don’t know why, but the blog won’t post my response to yours. Said something like, how much more more sample size do you need to realize that KJ cannot hit in the leadoff spot, that the leadoff spot does more damage to KJ’s psyche than it would to a Schafers, because simply putting Schafer there might give him a ego boost, in which he might thrive. And, some production is better than NO production. The team NOT utilizing Schafer’s speed is indication that the manager is NOT getting the most out of his players. Get my drift? Hopefully this will post finally…

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:44 pm

Diaz gets an ugly infield single. 1 on and 1 out.

Way to get things started.

KJ needs to keep the line moving.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
3:44 pm

We have Reyes/Jurrjens/Vazquez coming up against Pujols and the Cards, so it’d been nice to win this game today. But, you have to say that outside of some inconsistant hitting and KK’s gofer balls, this road trip could’ve been a lot worse…much worse!

We all need to hope and pray that McCann is back soon and hitting like ‘08, because if not…

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
3:44 pm

I would imagine the Braves went with Kotchman over Prado because they thought Kotchman was beter then Prado too

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

KJ wants to get back to Atlanta it seems. Strikes out swinging at three balls.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

Hope the fan is okay.

Again, did they ever show DOB’s song list?

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
3:45 pm

The Blog ate my brilliant “chewing out of Escobar for trying to take 2nd on that single when we were down 8-1 with Chipper coming up next” post.

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
3:46 pm

Wow Kelly must have read the blog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
3:46 pm

MFin04

Hey, the Braves had Sid Bream when the run of division titles started in 91 who wasn’t all that much of a power bat…but could hit for average, and drive in runs, and was slow around the bases most of the time other than maybe Game 7 of the 92 NLCS..(Lol)….

and the Braves did alright with him.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:47 pm

Yunel strokes a single up the middle. 1st and 2nd with 2 out.

Prado at the plate.

Just need to get three more men on base to bring the tying run to the plate.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
3:47 pm

Kawakami is 1-3 with a 7.06 ERA. Ouch.

LuisG

April 26th, 2009
3:47 pm

There’s Prado:

abwright

April 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

Prado taps a ball in front of the plate. Pitcher throws him out. Game (mercifully) over.

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

kirkinga

April 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

Well looks like B Jones is back in better graces on the blog. I wonder how long it will last? He used to be highly thought of, then got thrown under the bus last year with inconsistent play.

I wouldn’t get too attached to him because he’s gone as soon as Anderson is healthy.

Rob in Mobile

April 26th, 2009
3:48 pm

KJ is not a leadoff hitter, period. But Schafer strikes out too much at this point. Who knows? Like Bobby’s Cox said, putting Schafer at leadoff may change his approach and stoke his ego.

Game thankfully over. As DOB would say, it was fugly.

ArkyTech

April 26th, 2009
3:52 pm

Kelly Johnson starts the entire series? Are you kidding me?

Prado ought to file a discrimination suit!

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
3:52 pm

I realize Kelly can tease you with some power and go on a terror at the plate sometimes, but he’s a bit overrated on this blog. Prado needs his chance and if that means KJ is packaged in a trade for a 1B or whatever down the road, so be it. I know some have said Prado is below average defensively, but KJ VERY inconsistant out there too.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
3:53 pm

TnBrian We all need to hope and pray that McCann is back soon and hitting like ‘08

Yeah!

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
3:53 pm

I saw that Salma Hayek renewed her vows with her husband this weekend.

She knows how to get double, uh, bits to chesty with it.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
3:59 pm

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
4:01 pm

KJ is struggling mightily. I don’t see why Bobby doesn’t see fit to at least give him the day off even if he doesn’t agree with giving Prado more pt at that position.

That ERA for KK is ugly and officially makes it a higher than C.C. but how about ol ollie perez for the mets. He gave up 7ER in 4.1 innings against the Nats at home. I wonder where that 7.80 ERA that he is sporting will be at. Talk about knowing what you were getting with a guy. I bet the mets wish they spent the extra cash on Lowe now.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
4:03 pm

Well, at least the Mets are getting pounded by the Natinals. And O. Perez doin’ the 4.1 IP, 7 ER dance…ouch. So Anders, what to the Muts do with him if he keeps this up?

Told you Rangers-Caps would go 7, didn’t I? 8)

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
4:05 pm

Celtics/Bulls 108-107 9.8 seconds left in OT

mbatl

April 26th, 2009
4:05 pm

“Kawakami is 1-3 with a 7.06 ERA. Ouch.” – DOB

Yeah, that’s true… but thru today’s games, here’s some other numbers:

Mets: Ollie Perez, 9.31; John Maine, 7.47; Mike Pelfrey, 6.32; Livan Hernandez, 7.31.

Phillies: Cole Hamels, 9.69; Joe Blanton, 7.31; Chan Ho Park, 7.16; Jamie Moyer, 5.16.

Marlins: Ricky Nolasco, 6.86; Andrew Miller, 6.94; (they do have 3 starters who’ve been very good, like the Braves do).

Not dismissing KK’s bad start, but he’s sure not the only one. And none of the other teams have Hanson, Hudson, Morton, and Reyes waiting in the wings (at differing points in the season, of course).

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
4:08 pm

mbatl, don’t those stats you just posted bring a nice wide smile to your face? Because I really, really don’t expect any of those guys on the Phils or Mutts to get significantly better, except Hamels (if healthy) and maybe Maine.

Could see the two fish improving, with a bit of regression from the other three…

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
4:08 pm

Wow- Ben Gordon just hit a clutch 3 to tie it up in OT with 4.5 seconds…

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
4:09 pm

DANGIT, my deer was down to skin and bones and our neighbor goes and pores some kinda powder all over it! You can’t even see it anymore! Fooey…can’t wait till the next time it rain so that stuff cann get washed off!

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
4:09 pm

Wait so the CDC is thinking about recommending limited travel to Mexico due to the swine flu outbreak? :lol: With thousands of illegals pouring into the US every day I’m sure that will be SUPER effective.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
4:09 pm

But that bad starting pitching with other teams in the division, Is off set by a excellent power hitting ! and the Braves don’t have that kind of hitting from their line up !!!!!!!

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
4:10 pm

I’m with you mbatl. KK is one of many struggling but its much easier to take when you have the kind of backup we do.

C's

April 26th, 2009
4:10 pm

KK so far:

1 good start
1 okay start (with horrid defense behind him)
1 below average start (again with horrid defense behind him)
1 bad start

KK hasn’t had a great start, but he’s had horrible defense behind him for the most part and has had some bad luck (for example, today he had a wind blown HR and that ball hitting the runner). Tie that to the fact that it may take him more than 3-4 starts to adjust to American baseball (smaller ball, 5 man rotation). Hell, it even took Dice-K a little while to adjust.

All in all, I’m not ready to call him a bust. The jury is still out as far as I’m concerned.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
4:11 pm

Jake W., Bobby’s philosophy is “guys have to hit their way out of a slump”. Well, I disagree, especially when Prado is right next to you in the dugout. But, Bobby can obviously read people well, so maybe KJ is a guy he thinks has to stay in the lineup to break out of it. I don’t know, but I love Prado.

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
4:13 pm

I hope the word is good for that fan who got hit by the flying bat splinter!

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
4:14 pm

I was also thrilled to see Lowe plunk Votto yesterday.

mbatl

April 26th, 2009
4:15 pm

“But that bad starting pitching with other teams in the division, Is off set by a excellent power hitting !” – Dumbfounded

That’s a fair point. Braves have to score 4 runs (or hopefully more) much more often to win, even if the pitching is generally good.

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
4:16 pm

A last thought today. Bobby Cox has always stuck with his players, and given them a chance to hit their way out of slumps. Why would you think having a no power alternative like Prado on the bench, spell doom to Kotchman or Johnson?

There seems to be a lot of uneducated bloggers on today. Is this normal?

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
4:18 pm

Steve from OH,

Odds are that all of those guys you listed from those teams will be “significantly” better than what they’ve been so far. That’s why it would be really nice if the Braves had gotten off to a good start and maintained it. Our starting pitching in the top three has been Hall of Fame-level when compared to the Mets and Phils. It’s likely that Vazquez and Jurrjens are due for some correction. Lowe is about where he should be. I have no idea where our fourth and fifth starters should be.

Mike

April 26th, 2009
4:18 pm

CJ…from earlier…no I a was not watching the game, but as I stated Owings has done well against US! Yes he was 0-11 in his last games, but he is 3-0 against US!

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
4:18 pm

Kelly Johnson is 4-for-36 with no extra-base hits and two RBI in his past 10 games. He hasn’t scored in nine of those games.

Tennbravefan

April 26th, 2009
4:19 pm

I saw where KC designated Bryan Pena for assignment. Should the Braves bring him back? I like him better than Sammons, and we don’t know how long this eye problem with McCann will last. David Ross looks like a great signing at this point by the way.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
4:19 pm

Staggering how streaky he is. Extreme highs and lows, with seemingly nothing modest between.

richbrave

April 26th, 2009
4:22 pm

KAWAKAMI’s off-speed stuff is definitely not fooling anyone. KJ needs to vacate the lead-off spot, but what’s the alternative short of a trade? I think we limp along until something else can be arranged later this season.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
4:22 pm

Good thing Schafer was pulled, or he might have had his first golden sombrero (four Ks). Went 0-for-3 with three Ks, after not striking out in is previous three games.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
4:23 pm

Yeah, Chop Chop, I suppose “significant” was a bad word choice. Heck, going down to an ERA of 7 from Ollie’s 9.31 is significant.

How ’bout this? I don’t expect too many of them to rebound enough to be considered “good.” Not Perez, certainly not Livan, not Chan Ho, not Pelfrey, not Moyer.

None of those guys listed by mbatl strike fear into my heart, save for Hamels. And they’re all sucking tremendously. Coincidence? I think not. Neither the Mets or the Phils have any semblance of a rotation at this time, and I don’t think they will all season.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
4:24 pm

Yeah TnBrian, I just wanna see Prado be given a chance. I’d hate to see a guy condemned to be a bench player before he really has been given a chance to play everyday. KJ’s been given that chance so it would be nice to see Prado given the same chance.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
4:25 pm

You know, I should really stop using “significantly” so much. I should know better, dang it.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:30 pm

When KJ is killing it, he’s benched on Sundays. When KJ is as good as dead, he’s out there on Sundays. Go figure the logic.

mbatl

April 26th, 2009
4:34 pm

Just for the record, Marlins’ uberprospect Emilio Bonifacio is now hitting .270/.302/.351, which is terrible but still better than his career averages. Baseball is such a marathon, and it’s so hard to keep that in mind. Anyway, Marlins have a problem at leadoff and at 3B, most likely.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:35 pm

“Staggering how streaky he is. Extreme highs and lows, with seemingly nothing modest between”

It’s been my point for 2+ years now. Why on earth have such an inconsistent hitter in such an inconsistent lineup? This lineup needs men on base and guys who can hit with RISP. That’s why GA seemed like such a good signing at the time.

They need to string along hits. Screw the power, or you’re gonna have weeks like this one all year long, and if you’re stringing together hits, the HR’s will come. I guarantee it. Really, what ever happened to the rally? It’s getting frustrating waiting for the 3-run bomb, and that’s the kind of player Kj has been.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:36 pm

nolie

April 26th, 2009
4:37 pm

Well, you knew as soon as you sat the blog headline that they were gonna lose. Carry over from all those headlines last season that were so ironically wrong. So today’s loss is all on DOB.
Kawakami looks like my buddy said he would so far, lot’s of trouble adjusting to the show.. Not sure if he can regularly get MLB hitters out. Here’s hoping he can turn it around.
I bet the board was a mess during the game. Check back in a few hours after some or the turmoil dies down.

abwright

April 26th, 2009
4:37 pm

Blaine Boyer is in to pitch for St. Louis. 8th inning, Cubs 7-3.

Bomber

April 26th, 2009
4:38 pm

DOB,

Is Prado still hitting bombs in BP? You reported couple of times in ST that many braves were impressed with his improved power this year. I am just thinking that if he’s got a little more pop this year, exactly, how far behind KJ is he really?

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:40 pm

Exactly how many Lasik surgery’s can you have on an eye?

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:40 pm

Schafer already wears the bill of his cap “sombrero”style, so why not go for the golden sombrero?

Bill in VA

April 26th, 2009
4:41 pm

Means nothing unless they start to win at home, but, over the years, teams do have a higher W-L percentage at home. I notice the Braves have played 6 home games, to the Marlins, Phillies & Mets 9 home games.

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
4:43 pm

Just so the constant KJ bashing ends, I hope he is traded at some point this year.

blueridge

April 26th, 2009
4:43 pm

I hate that the line-up is so chock full of 6-hole hitters, it really is pretty boring to watch. There is no explosive nature to offense. And, why is the streakiest hitter on the team still leading off? This experiment failed over a year ago. I bet KJ would happily hit down in the line-up.

Lead off Esco and put Kotch in his rightful place at the 2-hole. While Frenchy is hitting, move him into the 4-hole behind Chipper. KJ behind Frenchy. Diaz hitting in front of Schafer, with Ross staying in the 8-hole focusing on his D. I would also love to see Infante and Prado getting more at bats. There seems to be a life in the offense with them getting ABs.

1. Esco
2. Kotch
3. Chipper
4. Frenchy (hey, he’s hitting right now)
5. KJ
6. Diaz
7. Schafer
8. Ross

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:43 pm

Can the Braves order Schafer a batting helmet with a flat bill?

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:45 pm

If Dustin Pedroia came up through the Braves organization, he’d still be a backup behind KJ.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
4:47 pm

Bobby’s, it depends on how much of the cornea is “shaved off.” The doctor will determine a minimum thickness of the cornea that he deems appropriate. So it depends. But there is a limit, depending upon the person.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:48 pm

Did you see the game yesterday? Pedroia booted a ball like KJ and made a baserunning blunder like Escobar. Not a good game for lil’ Dusty.

spotts

April 26th, 2009
4:49 pm

Here’s a look at our recent offensive production in runs (bases loaded walks not included)

1, 4, 2, 0, 0, 11, 2, 3, 0, 2, 10, 2

What the heck is wrong? It’s been like this for awhile. We go suck, suck, suck, score 43 runs, go back to sucking. Are those days TP takes off or something?

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:49 pm

Sorry, Steve, no more talk of shaving corneas. Makes me cringe.

GR8 Scott

April 26th, 2009
4:50 pm

Josh Hamilton sits today, and Andruw Jones still didn’t get a start in CF for the Rangers, though he got a pinch hit in the game.

I wonder if they are bringing him along slowly, so as not to hurt his psyche (ala Schafer in Atlanta)??

spotts

April 26th, 2009
4:50 pm

“Can the Braves order Schafer a batting helmet with a flat bill?” Bobby’s

ha…nice. I hope Bobby can start coaching hat-wearing soon, because I don’t want this flat billed hat thing to get out of hand. It makes white guys look like tools (especially Schafer), and it makes everyone else look like thugs.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
4:51 pm

Who’s bashing KJ? The guy is inconsistent and has been for a while now. People were hoping it was a phase but now it seems more like a pattern. DOB said it best, he has extreme highs and lows, nothing in between. A matter of consistency is the only thing keeping him from being a very good offensive second baseman and I don’t know who it was that said it earlier, but in a lineup like this that is inconsistant as a whole we can’t afford to keep waiting out his extreme lows. Especially being a leadoff guy.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:51 pm

Did you see 2008? Wasn’t lil’ Dustin the MVP?

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:51 pm

I know Gil from Mechanicsville is happy right now. Denny Hamlin just took the lead at Dega

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
4:53 pm

Thanks Steve…

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:54 pm

Calm down Bobby’s. Wasn’t saying lil’ Dusty sucks or that he’s worse than KJ. Just saying he looked awful yesterday.

mbatl

April 26th, 2009
4:55 pm

Boyer gives up 2 earned in 2/3 innings. In fairness, he just put the runners on, on a couple of singles, and the guy that followed him let ‘em in on a HR. But, not a good start for Blaine in St. Louis… 2/3 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 0 K, 0 BB.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
4:58 pm

Speaking of hat wearing styles, why do some folks leave the sticker on the bill of the cap? Does everyone need to know you’re donning a 7 1/2? We know you’ve got a Mardi Gras float of a head just by looking at you. We don’t need to know the exact size

spotts

April 26th, 2009
5:01 pm

Actually, Braveheart, I judge people on their hat sizes, so that information is relevant to me. I like to have it in front of me.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
5:04 pm

It makes white guys look like tools (especially Schafer), and it makes everyone else look like thugs. (spotts)

I’m betting that looked less racist in your head than it does on my screen

Lou Vales

April 26th, 2009
5:04 pm

Hey guys, I didn’t want you to think I disappear when The marlins tank. Got diagnosed with prostate cancer this week but I’ve been so diligent over the years due to a family history that my urologist/oncologist says my chances of being alive after 10 years are 98%. I want all you guys to get checked starting at 50 and earlier if a family history. Never think a prostate exam is emasculating, being planted in a box and planted 6 feet under ground is emasculating.

On to baseball, The marlins bullpen caught up with them and today Fredo Gonzalez, who makes bambi look like Mike tyson, showed his lack of fight, guts and personality. his young pitchers got squeezed by Dale the entire game and the dolt never said a word. The team has taken on the personality of its manager–It has none.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
5:05 pm

Dustin Pedroia isn’t that toolsy (except on defense), he just wants to be great more than anyone has ever wanted anything apart from Hillary Clinton wanting to be President.

Lou Vales

April 26th, 2009
5:06 pm

By the way, at this stage I would rather have Josh Anderson than Cameron Maybin who may go 0 for 2009 with men in scoring position.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
5:09 pm

Lou Vales, that’s awful news and wish you the best. Hopefully everything works out for you man!

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
5:10 pm

cabravesfan

I’m hoping the Bullies can come back and win that series after being down 2 games to 1 (now tied at 2 games a piece). :>)

spotts

April 26th, 2009
5:10 pm

yeah…definitely didn’t mean that in a racist way.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
5:14 pm

Frank-

Sorry buddy, I’m kinda pulling for the Celtics

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 26th, 2009
5:16 pm

Liked Boog’s coming to bat song list, especially #1, Seven Nation Army by White Stripes.

Lew

April 26th, 2009
5:18 pm

McFann-They probably poured lime on the deer to speed the process of decomposition.

Silver Lining Dept.-In the past seven games, comprising 17 2/3 IP, the pen has given up only two runs-one by Parr and another by Soriano-and both were given up in games we won.

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 26th, 2009
5:19 pm

Shafer should be leading off with either K. Johnson or Kotchman hitting second. Both of those guys are patient and would allow Shafer to have a few pitches to run on if Bobby would let him. I think Escobar would be great in the 6 hole, behind Frenchy and which ever of the KJ/Kotchman duo isn’t in the 2 hole. When McCann comes back I would have him at 5 behind Frenchy.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
5:25 pm

Man I can’t wait to see if LaRussa uses Boyer against us….I have always wondered if we could hit off him.

Bomber

April 26th, 2009
5:26 pm

I’d hate to see a guy condemned to be a bench player before he really has been given a chance to play everyday. KJ’s been given that chance so it would be nice to see Prado given the same chance Jake W.

In Prado’s only prolonged stretch of playing everyday (last August/September when he started in 36 games and played in 43), he hit .346, .388, .474 with a .862 OPS. He had 2 SB, scored 22 times, and had 19 RBI’s in those 43 games.

In 48 games total as a starter last year, Prado hit .340/.389/.467 with a .856 OPS. As a sub last year he hit .190.

In 65 AB (73 PA) with RISP last year, Prado hit .338/.383/.462/ with a .845 OPS. He drew 5 walks and had 27 RBI in those 73 PA with RISP last year.

I say he is deserving of another chance, and see why many around the league consider him ready to be a starter. I also think the Braves could use a bat like that in an everyday lineup. Sample size or not, he’s on the same trend this season, while the everyday second baseman, is also on the same trend as last season.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
5:28 pm

PWHjort,

Exactly. That dude plays with heart.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
5:37 pm

“Sample size or not, he’s on the same trend this season” Bomber

Exactly my point when I say Pedroia would still be a backup on the Braves. The Braves are just too hesitant to pull the trigger at times.

Sorry to hear that Lou…Best of wishes in recovery man. Enjoy the rest of the weekend…

Rodney Derrick

April 26th, 2009
5:41 pm

Andruw 1 for 1 (a double) today as a pinch hitter. Now hitting .435. Salty 2 for 4 and .278 and Elvis 1 for 3 and .275

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
5:42 pm

Lew

Lime…that’s what we were thinkin’.

Is that gonna hurt any of the other animals? I mean, he poured a lot on it. And then thing was pretty much done decaying, anyway…the vultures had eaten most of it. We hadn’t smelled it all day! Hardly smelled it yesterday…

Lew

April 26th, 2009
5:43 pm

Lou-I get a PSA test every June.

Lew

April 26th, 2009
5:46 pm

McFann-I wouldn’t think there’d be any harm to other species. Lime IS a naturally occurring substance.

keylargo

April 26th, 2009
5:46 pm

Spectacular race ending.

keylargo

April 26th, 2009
5:49 pm

If you are near a TV, go see the race ending.

Robert

April 26th, 2009
5:50 pm

“Yes, by all means, put the fastest guy in the lineup just ahead of your best hitter, so that every time the guy is on and uses his speed, he takes the bat right out of said best hitter’s hands. Brilliant”

Excellent arguement if anyone other thaan Cox was managing. Since Cox teams rarely use their speed, it loses some of its validity.

12-6 team stands at 9-9 thanks to Donk

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
5:53 pm

I never take the tags or stickers off anything I wear. I like to know that my jeans were inspected by #43.

njbraves

April 26th, 2009
5:53 pm

Kawakami was bad signing by the Braves. He throws too many pitches, and, even when he has his “good” stuff, he still seems hittable. That big, slow curveball is not fooling anyone. Would have made more sense to spend the monaey on a bat and use Hanson in KK’s slot. As far as KJ goes, I think Prado should get a chance to play some. KJ seems to go through these hitting funks every year, and if’s he’s not hitting he’s not helping the team because he can’t field.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
5:57 pm

do yall like hannah montana?

Mixxo

April 26th, 2009
6:17 pm

Ugaman – not really. :D

….and if we win this homestand …..I’ll listen to an REM album all the way through!

There, I said it.

pryguy

April 26th, 2009
6:20 pm

DOB,

Great point about KJ. Such a streaky player at times. I like the idea of Kotchman hitting number 2. Still early on here, and like most teams inconsistent hitting is going on in a lot of the games. What is very promising for this team is their ability to stay in games, especially the way our pitchers have thrown. Once the weather continues to warm up, I don’t seem too concerned about these hitters. Quality hitters will find their stride. I’m still very optimistic about our chances, especially seeing how the Phillies and Mets pitching has been. Keep up the good work DOB.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
6:23 pm

And yet another oh so inspiring quote from the 49ers on thier team”
Said Singletary, “I’m confident somehow, someway, we’ll get what we need.”

That is what the draft is for, dumba**!!! So you can get the players you need!!

Makes me feel real good about the upcoming season!

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
6:33 pm

Lew

Good. I’m still t’d at ‘im for covering it up, though. Call me morbid, but I wanted to check on the deer’s “progress”. And anyway, even if that technically not our property (not our neighbors’, either), it was my deer. I found it. He just went and poured lime all over my deer!

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
6:33 pm

I am not sold on Kawakami at all. He must be having some problems adjusting the size of American baseballs or something, he does not look good at all. I wonder how much longer they let him go before bringing up Hanson or start fielding trade offers for him. He just doesnt convince me that he is major league ready.

varoadrunner

April 26th, 2009
6:34 pm

KJ is better in the 7 hole – put shafer on top and esco #2. The big deal is our starting pitching – both good and bad. Lowe, JJJ, Vazquez can win and gives us a great chance at winning. KK and #5 scare me. It’s a long season, we need a solid 4 & 5. Jojo looked good. Hanson might not be ready, but would it be that detrimental to his development at this level? (honest Q) We STILL NEED A LF. Maybe it’s too early, but diaz and Anderson just don’t seem to have it. B Jones might be a better choice. Fill the holes now before we fade into the sunset like last year.

varoadrunner

April 26th, 2009
6:37 pm

DOB

What’s the latest on Glavine or have I missed something?

buzzmeat

April 26th, 2009
6:40 pm

Did DOB every show his top 5 batting music today, I turned the game off after the 8-0 and not scoring the next inning…

AdirondackDave

April 26th, 2009
6:57 pm

Original Jon — I think you may be right about KK. I really don’t see how those guys from Japan can pitch with one size ball for 20 years and then in a matter of a month or two be expected to effectively compete with a larger (or smaller) ball. Just doesn’t seem sensible to me.

You’re wrong about Hanson though. I’ve seen him pitch 2 times this spring and I don’t expect instant stardom but he can keep the Braves in games consistently right now. However, I don’t expect to see him come up until July or whenever they re-set the arbitration/FA clock. Reyes, Morton, etc. will come up to replace Glavine if he’s finished and perhaps even KK if he doesn’t get his act together.

KC

April 26th, 2009
7:01 pm

Until Kawakami turns it around (if he does)… who in the world is going to make a trade offer for him???

Maybe he’s not putting enough of his “soul” into his pitches. =)

Once again, I think he’s got the stuff to succeed here. That, coupled with the command he’s shown throughout his career gave the Braves every reason to believe he could be effective over here. And he still can be, but only if he stops hanging sh!t belt high over the plate.

I’m still hopeful that he’ll come around, but I have to admit that I am worried about him.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
7:01 pm

I never saw it either, Buzz. And I was mostly paying attention to the whole game. He gave a list here on the blog one day last week before Boog and Joe started listing their lists (they steal discussion ideas from this blog, I’m sure of it lol) but I’m not sure he was serious with those pics. :lol:

flange1

April 26th, 2009
7:02 pm

Afternoon All,

Got to say after this many games, I am a bit disappointed in KJ and Matt Diaz. I really thought both would come out of the box hot, but both have really looked bad so far at the plate.

KJ is better suited to hitting lower in the order, but until JS is ready, I don’t see any other options.

I am beginning to question if Diaz is major league material. He did not hit last year before his injury, and he looks about the same now…

Being so unorthodox makes it hard for us to see if he is getting beat by the pitcher or just putting bad swings on everything.

I know Bobby likes his guys to play their way out of a slump, but I would hope to see B Jones against RH pitchers and Prado against LH’ers at least for a while..

Woogidy

April 26th, 2009
7:04 pm

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
7:04 pm

Woo! I just sold an old all star game pennant for $60. I paid $3 for it. Apparently people collect those things because a ton of folks bid on it.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
7:04 pm

There seems to be a lot of uneducated bloggers on today. Is this normal? – (GRB Scott)

yep, we’re all a buncha dummies. Well, everybody but me and 10 or so others, but we’re so special we bring the board average almost all the way back up to normal. And believe me, that’s a tough assignment. 8)

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
7:07 pm

If Dustin Pedroia came up through the Braves organization, he’d still be a backup behind KJ. — Bobby’s Cox

So now you’re comparing Martin Prado to Dustin Pedroia, huh? OK, B.C. We know where you stand.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
7:11 pm

varoadrunner: No, you’ve not missed anything. I said here Friday and again Saturday, that Bobby Cox said there was nothing new on Glavine, because the two-week rest period isn’t up yet, the period he’s taking before making any decision. That’s Tuesday, not that he necessarily will have any decision that day. But he wasn’t supposed to throw or test it again until then.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
7:14 pm

Never think a prostate exam is emasculating, being planted in a box and planted 6 feet under ground is emasculating. (Lou Vales)

weren’t they doing the blood test on you regularly?

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
7:15 pm

Hey DOB, what is your opinion on Kawakami? Do you think that they give him the whole year to figure it out or do they move him to the 5th spot and bring up Hanson to plug in the 4 hole? Not sure if its too early to tell, but man, he sure seems hittable.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
7:16 pm

The team has taken on the personality of its manager–It has none. (Lou)

if you mean Fredi, he’s the guy everybody on here wants to replace Bobby.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
7:20 pm

DOB

I think Bobby’s Cox meant if we had a Pedroia, or even him. He believes he’d sit and Kelly would start. In other words unless someone is given a chance to play everyday you never know what they can bring to the plate. Until they are named a starter we have no clue if they could be a Pedroia or a Rafael Belliard.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
7:21 pm

I’m not saying pitch tommy every game !! If you would look ! The Braves would have a better rotation with hanson at #5 DAMN IT !!!!!!!!!!!!! — Dumbfounded

How much better could they be today, given that the No. 5 starter has made a total of one start for the Braves this season.

The first through fourth starters have started all the other games, as planned. The Braves intended to use Glavine twice in April if he’d been the No. 5 starter. Instead, they’ve used Reyes once in the role, and will give Reyes the second No. 5 starter’s turn on Tuesday.

In hindsight, maybe they’d be better off if Hanson had started the four games that Kawakami started. But that’s really kind of irrelevant, isn’t it? I mean, they didn’t sign Kawakami to a three-year, $23 million contract to decide based on spring training results that he should be bumed to the No. 5 starter role after Glavine got hurt, and have Kawakami make two starts in April.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
7:26 pm

Original Jon: I’ve not been too impressed by Kawakami, in answer to your question.

But it’s not as if Hanson is exactly throwing complete-game shutouts at Gwinnett to force their hand.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
7:31 pm

If the Braves had someone better at second, he’d be at second. When KJ came up, Giles, Furcal, Chipper, and Laroche were deemed better in the infield, so they sent KJ out to left. When they deemed KJ better, they sent Giles packing. The better guy plays. They know Prado better than any of us. They wanted Furcal to play second and to send KJ to left. So don’t kid yourself that they are so in love with KJ, they don’t consider better options. Clearly, their actions tell you they think Furcal is still better than KJ who is better than Prado.

buzzmeat

April 26th, 2009
7:34 pm

Kawakami has actually been good besides today, the ohter two losses he has no run support, hes making quality starts. In my opinon his two other losses (besides today’s) were better than the one WIN he had against the nationals!!!!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
7:34 pm

A very good point at 7:26 by DOB. He’s averaging only 5.16 innings/start. He’s got a WHIP of 1.11 and an ERA of 2.18. I mean, his numbers are very good, but it’s not like he’s guaranteed to step in and even be successful against major league hitters. This is just me talking, but he needs to straighten out his command issues if he’s having them and if he isn’t he needs to learn a bit more about how to approach hitters because he’s throwing entirely too many pitches.

buzzmeat

April 26th, 2009
7:35 pm

well spoken BraveHeart!!!!!!!

Couch Tater

April 26th, 2009
7:35 pm

Lou Vales,

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis and the associated stress. I just saw this article and thought I’d pass it along.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090426075456.htm

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
7:37 pm

After watching the Nats and Mets series it has been determined that the Nats are horrible but that Zimmermann is tough. Their toughness cofused me after that braves and Nats series.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
7:37 pm

Braveheart-

totally agree with your comments on KJ

Lou Vales

April 26th, 2009
7:38 pm

Nolie, Yes they were doing it regularly and it was never over 1.2. I’m 61. Went to my normal guy after noticing a symptom–some of you may be offended– he said to ignore it. I wanted to do a PSA 2 months early and he said no need. i said would you at least check the prostate, he spent about 35 seconds and said “perfect”. I couldn’t get past the symptom he told me to ignore and got a second opinion from one of 2 guys in SC who does Robotics. He was shocked wheni told him about guy telling me to ignore symptom. He checked my prostate for about 8 seconds!! and said you have a subtle lesion–this is why i love Oncologists/urologists. he said we are doing a biopsy. 12 needles in, 11 negative and only the 12th had about 15 % cancer cells. That is where he gets the 98% along with my great health–besides the prostate cancer–. I can’t believe I’m not saying the symptom because of the sensitivity of people in certain areas.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
7:44 pm

At his current pace KJ won’t be better than a whole lot of people for much longer no matter what anyone on the braves think.

And on the Hanson thing I said it earlier and i’ll say it again that the Braves made the right decision to start him at AAA. He’s yet to go deep in any of his games really and at the current time there is no need to rush him up. Now if we had had a start like the Nationals maybe but right now there no need for him. Let him work his stuff out in AAA and we will probably see him some time this summer.

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
7:51 pm

DOB, I am with you on Hanson, not sure if he is ready enough to be brought up yet, but I just wonder how long they let KK go on like this without trying something else.

Tomas

April 26th, 2009
7:51 pm

The Braves overpaid for Kenshin Kawakami. He is an ok 4 or 5th starter, but he should get 4th or 5th starter kind of money(2-5 million per year). Well at least they’re willing to take risk, he may get better as he gets more comfortable who knows. Next year they could either trade Kawakami, or elect not to agree to Tim Hudson’s mutual option.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
7:53 pm

I’ve totally failed as a parent. I’m too embarrassed to even share the text exchange I just had with my daughter about the price of stamps and if the post office is open or not.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
7:54 pm

Here’s Dice K’s stats from his first two seasons for the R. Sox from his Wilkapedia profile.

Year Age Team Lg W L G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP IBB BK ERA lgERA ERA+ WHIP

2007 26 Boston AL 15 12 32 32 1 0 0 0 204.7 191 100 100 25 80 201 13 5 874 1 0 4.40 4.74 108 1.324
2008 27 Boston AL 18 3 29 29 0 0 0 0 167.7 128 58 54 12 94 154 7 5 716 1 0 2.90 4.62 159 1.324

He (Dice K) only won 15 games in 07 and rebounded quite nicely in 08 by winning 18.

Even tho Kawakami hasn’t not won every one of his starts, and pitched quite terrible in those starts at times and has had some bad luck…..give him some time. He might just surprise everyone one of us.

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
7:54 pm

Why is anyone worried about the braves starting pitchng? Thats the strength and depth of the team correct? Starting pitching is a Mets and philthies problem. Anyway looks like the phithies might be the next team to get hot in the N.L. East with the Marlins and the braves being the first two. Lets see where that takes them. They are coming around early this year defending the crown.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
7:58 pm

Met Man

Them Fightin’ Phils will come back down to earth too….just like the Fish have done.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
7:59 pm

At his current pace KJ won’t be better than a whole lot of people for much longer no matter what anyone on the braves think. (JAKEW)

Yeah, because I’d rather take this 20 game sample as an indicator of future performance (and really just the last 10 games) rather than his performance over the last two seasons that ranks him as one of the 10 best second baseman in the majors and top 4 second baseman in the NL. Utley, Uggla, Phillips, and Hudson are the only ones in the NL I’d take over him. Good luck naming some other NL second baseman you’d rather have that wouldn’t get you laughed off the blog.

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
8:01 pm

Laughed at this comment after KK gave up the HR: My soul is in the stands, please don’t lose it. Hope KK’s translator doesn’t read the blog.

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
8:02 pm

I for one am not too worried about the starting pitching, I just hope that KK can get comfortable before too long. He just didnt look good giving up those 8 runs today, but then again, neither did Bronson Arroyo yesterday. So i guess we shall see where KK stands come July.

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
8:02 pm

Braveheart

I’m one that wished the Braves would’ve went after Hudson.

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
8:03 pm

Enter your comments here

Alfred E. Newman

April 26th, 2009
8:04 pm

Why is anyone worried about the braves starting pitchng?

What, me worry?

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
8:05 pm

Original Jon, re: your 7:51 post. Considering the three-year, $23 mill guaranteed contract the Braves gave Kawakami, I’d dare say they can, and will, go on for quite some time before “trying something else.”

Random

April 26th, 2009
8:05 pm

Doc Holiday (12:37 pm): “I think Bennett is the guy the braves can use to close out games that are………6-2 or 5-0 things like that. He can also come in when we are leading games in the 6 by 3 runs and 1 runner on………stuff like that………. I think you can trust him, but you have to use him cautiously. I have never made a single comment against this guy……..not 1, ever. I like what he brings for the braves, he is cheap and he eats tons of innings from the BP…….he is a warrior. You just cant ask him to perform like a superstar reliever.”

How many times you gonna make me agree with you today? (Agreed.)

Sadist.

;-)

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
8:05 pm

Hey R. Sox/Yanks on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

I wonder how they’ll top yesterday’s 16-11 pitchers duel.

Lol

Frank from KS

April 26th, 2009
8:08 pm

Salamander

April 26th, 2009
8:08 pm

Even if today’s game was a bummer for KK and the Braves:

(1) the Marlins are experiencing a cold snap, (2) the Phillies are resurgent (but giving up a ton of runs), (3) the Mets have played fairly mediocre baseball so far this year (when Santana isn’t pitching).

It would be nice if Albert ‘Braves crusher’ Pujols wasn’t coming to town. I have my doubts about whether this series with the Cardinals is going to pan out in the Braves’ favor.

Tomorrow’s game: Jurrjens vs. Pineiro is a key game to set the tone for the entire week. Jurrjens stepped up last game to throw shutout ball for 7.2 IP. I’m hoping he can duplicate his performance tomorrow (Albert lurking).

Plus we’ll get a up close look at Ludwick…

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
8:09 pm

Frank from KS: If all NL East pitching continues to be sub par with the exception of a few, the bats will decide who goes to the playoffs to get shutdown against good pitching.

a643dp

April 26th, 2009
8:12 pm

DOB,

What is your opinion on the Hudson situation. With the 12M club option but the funky clause that allows Hudson to void it. Would it be in the Braves best interest to rush him back? If he comes back in August and goes 7-2 some team might consider giving him a 3/30 M contract. If we are slow with him until Sep. less likely somebody would risk that much cash in such a small sample size. Just a though?

Metropolitan Man1

April 26th, 2009
8:14 pm

Good luck with the Cards. I think they are in 2nd in errors and just keep winning. Larussa sure can manage.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
8:19 pm

Yes and surely Braveheart you have noted his inconsistencies in his time up here to right? I never called for KJ to be replaced by anyone but I did say I would like to see Prado given a chance. I mean you’ve taken Prado’s small sample size and held it against him. It’s hard to compare him against other 2nd basemen when he hasn’t really been given the chance to play. I said it earlier and i’ll say it again, we can’t afford to wait for KJ’s highs with the way our offense is constructed. He hits everything for a week then disapears for 2 or 3. To quote a post I said earlier, KJ would be one of the best offensive 2nd basemen in the game if he could find some consistency. The question is will he ever do it. I mean if he was so good there would be no question.

Original Jon

April 26th, 2009
8:19 pm

DOB, I suppose you are right about KK. I guess it will just take some time for him to get accustomed. Who knows, he may throw a complete game shut out next time out. Thanks for the feedback.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
8:22 pm

I wonder how they’ll top yesterday’s 16-11 pitchers duel. (FRANK IN KS)

KEYS TO THE GAME:

1. The Red Sox need to convert better in the red zone and not settle for 3 field goals again

2. The Red Sox need to do a better job in the protection game. Can’t give away points with your back to the end zone by allowing safeties.

3. The Red Sox need to continue to be effective defensively in the red zone. Holding your opponents to 3 field goals in 3 red zone trips is a recipe for success.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
8:24 pm

Haha. Nice one, Braveheart.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
8:28 pm

Even tho Kawakami hasn’t not won every one of his starts, and pitched quite terrible in those starts at times and has had some bad luck…..give him some time. He might just surprise everyone one of uFRANK KS)

yes he might improve, in fact I’m sure he will be regularly better that today at least. Realistically though, very very few Japanese players have come over here and really shone for any extended time. Considering that most all of them that come over here are regular all-star quality over there, only a few have had extended success here, so I don’t see the odds on KK becoming more than a bottom of the rotation (4-5) pitches as very high. Obviously since I’m a braves fan I hope he will succeed.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
8:29 pm

River Avenue Blues says the Red Sox have called up Michael Bowden (their top pitching prospect) and they’ll piggyback him with Masterson tonight because Francona cashed the bullpen over the past 2 days.

bravefaninok

April 26th, 2009
8:33 pm

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
8:22 pm

I wonder how they’ll top yesterday’s 16-11 pitchers duel. (FRANK IN KS)

KEYS TO THE GAME:

1. The Red Sox need to convert better in the red zone and not settle for 3 field goals again

2. The Red Sox need to do a better job in the protection game. Can’t give away points with your back to the end zone by allowing safeties.

3. The Red Sox need to continue to be effective defensively in the red zone. Holding your opponents to 3 field goals in 3 red zone trips is a recipe for success.

lmfao….sweet post

nolie

April 26th, 2009
8:33 pm

Good luck naming some other NL second baseman you’d rather have that wouldn’t get you laughed off the blog. (BH)

well we all know that the answer is Marteen, the next Placido, who was also highly underrated for years at the start of his career with very similar numbers to Marteen. . Dontcha know nuttin’?

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
8:33 pm

DOB, that was a joke. But ya, I’m sure you remember from last year where I stand on the 2nd base debate.

My point wasn’t to compare Prado to Pedroia, initially. There are few players who play with the same passion and intensity as Pedroia. Prado is not one of them, nor is KJ. My point is, no matter how good Prado or Infante are, or how bad or inconsistent KJ proves to be, the Braves will be reluctant to make the move whereas the Red Sox wouldn’t. There’s no way a player THAT streaky would last in Boston. Likewise, there hasn’t been any way a player in as bad or with continual multiple slumps, like KJ, will be benched in Atlanta. Take that as you will. I’m a supporter of KJ when he’s on. Go back and read the blogs in the 1st week. He’s got a sweet swing with power when on. But this, the slumps, is just godawful and got tiresome 10 months yesterday.

Like I said, I didn’t mean to compare Prado to Pedroia, but now I will. If you look at Pedroia’s ROY stats, .317, .380, .442, 8 HR, 50 RBI, 47 BB….those are Prado-esque. I would never expect prado to outdo that, but I wouldn’t expect him to do worse either. The Braves still expect KJ to outdo those numbers, and look what we’ve got. What’s wrong with a second baseman with less power potential, who will put up solid numbers and help turn over the lineup?

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
8:33 pm

And by the way Braveheart to answer your question about another NL second baseman i’ll take over him, that guy Sanchez in pittsburgh is pretty good and i’ll gladly take him over KJ and Prado.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
8:39 pm

Petite comes awfully close to balking on those throws to 1st…

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
8:40 pm

We should’ve traded for Nick Swisher.

ncscoots

April 26th, 2009
8:42 pm

nolie, I know you like Prado (and I do, too), but, you realize you’re throwing bread to the mob with the Polanco reference, right, LOL?

I admit, though, now that the comparisons have escalated to Pedroia, I am anxious to see where they might end up. I don’t think Charlie Gehringer is safe.

Tomahawkin

April 26th, 2009
8:44 pm

Looks like we got the later end of our Feast or Famine offensive output…

Well, After this Homestand we will see what kind of team the braves really have…

Kamakaze was due to have a bad outing and The Great American Smallpark was the perfect place for that to happen…

Kamakaze’s stats are misleading so far because He has gotten little to no run support every start…

All I gotta Say is that This team better get their A..ss’s Serious and come out Playing For real against the Cards and Mets…

If we come out playing like a AAA team (Inept Defense, Inept Baserunning skills, etc) we are gonna get our As..es Handed to us each and every night…

Aight, Gotta Go back to watching Old New York Undercover on Youtube…

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
8:46 pm

Peavy: Five innings, five earned runs, six hits, four walks today in another loss against Pittsburgh, this one at Petco.

He’s 2-3 with a 5.75 ERA.

How many still wish the Braves had given up Escobar, Gorkys Hernandez and the rest of the prospect package it would’ve taken to get Peavy and be on the hook for all the money left on his contract?

Randy

April 26th, 2009
8:50 pm

KAWAKAMI optioned to GWINNETT. Hanson called up. Jeff Bennett DFA’d.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
8:51 pm

Jake, honestly, KJ annoys the hell out of me. I actually like Prado more, but I also don’t believe Prado is anywhere near as good. It’s not really just the sample size in the majors, either. We’ve got those 2100 plate appearances in the minors as well for Martin. His SLG in the minors was barely better than Josh Anderson. The same was true for Mark Derosa as well, and maybe Martin can become a Derosa kind of guy in the majors. But he could also be like Wilson Betemit as well. Betemit and Derosa do have just about the same OPS for their respective careers, with the difference being that Derosa can sustain the performance over 500 plate appearances in a season, while Betemit likely can’t if exposed that much (but as we all painfully know Derosa couldn’t sustain that either when exposed that much at Betemit’s age). And I don’t really think Martin is as good as either one of those guys, although he does remind me of both.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
8:52 pm

nolie, I know you like Prado (and I do, too), but, you realize you’re throwing bread to the mob with the Polanco reference, right, LOL? (scoots)

little sarcasm never hurt anybody scoots. Gehringer might be safe along with Hornsby and Lajoie, but Maz,Doerr Fox and Herman are poppin up in my sights. They better watch out..

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
8:52 pm

Braveheart,

Are you sure you want my list of NL players I’d have instead of KJ, or would you rather have my list of players I’d rather not have than KJ? The latter would be shorter. Well here you go…have fun with it.

Utely, Uggla (who made less errors last year than KJ) Orlando Hudson, Freddie Sanchez, Felipe Lopez, Both Rockies Ian Stewart and Clint Barmes, little pesky Eckstein, Brandon Phillips (stolen bases), Skip Shumaker, That’s 10. Well, Prado an Infante too i guess, so 12.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
8:59 pm

Braveheart,

I agree with you.. I don’t think Martin is as good either. Yet, however. I feel if he plays everyday, he will get better, and cut down on those mental errors, whereas our current option hasn’t really improved, nor has he shown he will.

Seriously, why does everyone keep bringing up Marteen’s minor league stats? Prado is 2 years removed from AAA where in his last year won player of the year for Richmond. He’s already a better player than he was in the minors with, as many Braves and DOB pointed out, has more pop.

When I talk about Prado, I talk more from a team concept. Is it better to have such a streaky player in such a streaky lineup, or would you rather go with the less powerful, steady .300 bat? I’m not so sure the lineup is better with KJ in it…well at least the KJ of the past 2 weeks, which is quite often.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:00 pm

You’d really take Sanchez over KJ, with Sanchez’s .669 OPS last season with hardly any walks, no stolen bases, no power? The year he won the batting title I’d take him, but Sanchez’s average has only been 7 points higher in 2007 and 2008 combined, while his SLG was 43 points lower, his OBP 40 points lower, his OPS 80 points lower. KJ, even with all of his maddening inconsistency is offensively worth about 20 more runs over 700 plate appearances than Sanchez.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
9:01 pm

You must remember, Kelly Johnson wasn’t even benched when he dropped that pop up last year against the Philly ! I was sure Bobby was going to bench him ! I should have known better ! But, Cox benched Andruw Jones in mid play for letting a ball drop ! And Cox didn’t Bench Diaz for losing a ball in the lights ! The other Left fielder for the other team has to play with the same lights ! I keep telling you the Braves will never win a division with that man in the dugout !!

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
9:01 pm

Just for the record Uggla made one less error then Kelly last year.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:02 pm

DOB,

I never wished the Braves gave up that package for Peavy. I’m glad Wren pulled out ;)

nolie

April 26th, 2009
9:03 pm

Utely, Uggla (who made less errors last year than KJ) Orlando Hudson, Freddie Sanchez, Felipe Lopez, Both Rockies Ian Stewart and Clint Barmes, little pesky Eckstein, Brandon Phillips (stolen bases), Skip Shumaker, That’s 10. Well, Prado an Infante too i guess, so 12. (BobbysCox)

I’m hoping you are employing a little hyperbole. here, BC. I understand the frustration with KJ, but some of those guys couldn’t carry his…batting gloves.

FlaBravesFan1

April 26th, 2009
9:04 pm

cabravesfan 623pm That quote actually came from Mike SingleMartz!

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:06 pm

Bobby’s, you’d really take Felipe Lopez over KJ? The same Felipe Lopez who has an OPS of .689 combined in 2007 & 2008? The guy with an OPS 130 points lower than KJ over the last two seasons? Congratulations, you just cost the ballclub 30 runs over 700 plate appearances.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:06 pm

Ok, Braveheart, maybe I’d take Sanchez off that list. I said have fun with it, as you are. But the rest, for one reason or another (speed, defense, BA), I’d rather have.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
9:07 pm

FlaBravesFan1-

That would be funny if it didn’t hurt so bad :) I swear Singletary is starting to sound as clueless as the Offensive Genius did last year…

Jeff R

April 26th, 2009
9:11 pm

I’m startig to think that the Bravos have a three-man rotation. Kawakami has been hot and cold (more cold than hot). Three years at $23 million? Maybe he’ll settle down and start to pitch like he did in Japan. If not, the back of the rotation is going to be a big rock that drags the team down (oh, that and the middle inning relievers).

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
9:12 pm

Braveheart I understand your feeling on Prado. The only thing I want is for the kid to be given the chance to show us whether he can or can’t hack it as an everyday starter. With KJ struggling right now I don’t see how at least trying him can hurt us anymore than KJ is already hurting us with his inconsistency. I would hate to see him get to go to another team as a starter with out us at least getting a look at him as one.

And on Sanchez of course i’ll take him because he’s CONSISTANT. He’s not getting on base 4 times some games and none the next week. The guy can annoy the crap out of you in an at bat and he also isn’t such a dead pull hitter. When he is struggling he can take that ball the other way. No he doesn’t have the power that KJ has but the guy can hit. Besides we can use another right handed bat in this lineup so yeah i’ll take him.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:12 pm

Eckstein? Gimme a break. Fine, I’ll go tell KJ to run around gritting his teeth like he’s holding in a big sh!t. Will that make you change your opinion of KJ because he’d look as gritty as Eckstein? Eckstein’s career OPS is 100 points lower than KJ’s the last two years. Congrats, you just cost the team 25 runs over 700.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
9:12 pm

The Braves had a lot of chances to get Orlando Hudson, But NO ! The Braves had to go with the white boy !!!!!!!!

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:14 pm

Braveheat, yes, I’d rather have Lopez. He’s tearing the cover off the ball this year. The last part of last year he was hitting really well (with St. Louis). Yahoo had an article on him how he was hurt the past couple of years and is regaining form to where his career was projected to be. I’m a firm believer that a player progresses through their careers and become solid veteran bats, aka hudson, derosa, ibanez, abreau, and the 1998 Gary Gaetti. Eventually some veteran players just “get it” and I think Lopez is, so sure I’d keep him on that list.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
9:15 pm

Dumbfounded, or maybe it was the $7 million they saved this year…just a thought

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
9:19 pm

Consistant?!?! Consistant?!?! C’mon, buddy, consistency is great, but consistency is overrated when you’re OPSing approximately .710 over the last two seasons…

And Eckstein, Bobby’s Cox? Man, you usually have a well-presented, logical argument but this one had just a touch of bias in it, I think. When I read Eckstein and Felipe I about had an aneurysm.

And to the denizens, an apology for my outburst earlier today. Wasn’t necessary, and (probably) won’t happen again. Sorry y’all had to read my BS earlier.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:19 pm

Ekstein saves a lot of runs with his defense. He’s a pesky hitter that makes opposing pitchers throw tons of pitches. He’s a tough out…something this team needs. He’s a proven veteran who has won 2 world series with 2 different teams. He hits tough pitchers. He’s currently hitting .100 points higher than KJ. He BB’s just as much as he K’s. Yes, I’d take Eckstein over KJ.

The Braves problem isn’t scoring runs. They scored a lot last year. Their problem is scoring them consistently. Yes, yes yes yes, yes to Eckstein.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
9:23 pm

Orlando Hudson has 27 hits this year and is a stud!

monty

April 26th, 2009
9:23 pm

KK will be OK, he just needs a little confidence right now. Coming over from a different league he has to prove to himself that he has what it takes. It would be nice if his team made it a little easier on him. It’s just way too early to start bashing him. If you watch him pitch you know he has really good movement on all his pitches and he has lots of pitches. Think of this year being his rookie season. I seem to remember some Braves HOF pitchers who got off to some very poor starts.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:25 pm

Another note on Esckstein. I went to the Padre Dodger game in the opening week. Eckstein made Kershaw throw like 40 pitches in his 1st 3 AB while the other Padres hitters couldn’t manage a hit. The Padres had like 4 hits through 6. 3 were from Eckstein. Eckstein also saved 2 runs with his glove, once going up the middle and again going into his left in shallow RF to prevent a base hit from going into the outfield.

The Padres were all but done in that game. There’s no way in hell anyone in the stadium thought they had a chance, but they chased Kershaw, made the Dodgers go through a few pitchers early, and sure enough the Padres scored 4 in the bottom of the 8th to win 4-3.

Eckstein has intangibles and a huge heart. You bet I’d take him.

And yes Steve, consistency is very important.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:25 pm

Ekstein saves a lot of runs with his defense. (BOBBY”S)

Oh, no, he doesn’t. Has a negative UZR/150 at 2B and SS for his career. Has a UZR/150 of -12 runs and -18.8 runs at SS the last two seasons. A -15 UZR/150 SS is likely only gonna be worth -5 UZR/150 at best at 2B, which is what KJ has been worth the last two seasons combined.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
9:25 pm

Jeff, I know ! The braves could have made a play for Uggla too !!!

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
9:27 pm

Consistancy can never be overrated when you’re talking about this Braves teams offense. Unless you like that whole 10 runs one game after two scoreless games thing. I’ll stick to what I said, if I could have my pick between KJ, Prado, or Sanchez. I’d take Freddy hands down.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:27 pm

cabravesfan,

Hudson signed for only $3.4 mil with LA.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:30 pm

Bobby’s, add this to your Raul Ibanez defensive highlight reel:

http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/raul_ibanez/

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

Bobby’s Cox. Ya, 3.38 million base, but with 4.62 million in incentives, so it’s really an 8 million dollar commitment.

McFann Ô

April 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

Well, tomorrow’s another Manic Monday…

Dude, I like didn’t get any sleep last night (I mean, less than I usually get) for whatever reason…tonight might be more of the same, wuddiya think? :P

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

“Consistancy can never be overrated when you’re talking about this Braves teams offense. Unless you like that whole 10 runs one game after two scoreless games thing. I’ll stick to what I said, if I could have my pick between KJ, Prado, or Sanchez. I’d take Freddy hands down.–Jake W.

Ugh. [Slams head repeatedly against concrete wall]

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:32 pm

Sorry Braveheart…i’m not sure who comes up with those fielding stats, but I saw for my own eyes Eckstein’s range AT 2nd BASE to tell you he’ll save a lot of runs for San Diego this year. Maybe in years past as a shortstop he didnt’ save many runs, especially with that lousy arm, but seeing him this year as a second baseman in person, I can tell you he has more range than Kelly.

Defense, what he does offensively to pitchers, his ability to leadoff, his steady OBP, I’m sticking with Esckstein.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
9:34 pm

Bobby’s Cox-

Really? My bad…don’t know where I got my figure from. Thanks!

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:35 pm

Steve,

lol….believe it or not, but that is the Braves biggest problem…where have you been man?

Seriously, if this offense weren’t so hit and miss, do you honestly think I’d keep debating who plays 2nd base? The only thing that keeps bringing up this convo is KJ. I was all over Frenchy last year too, but haven’t had a word to say about him this year.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
9:39 pm

Yes Braveheart…I already saw that when you posted it last year. I was talking about his defense, just how some players become steady with the bat as they age, which shows a huge improvement over their younger days in the minors, which you and many here like to hold against some players. Again, I think hitters get better as they age, where you and others think they’re a product of their minor league numbers.

Really, stop being so petty with your arguments. Now you’re starting to sound like Random.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
9:39 pm

I know Steve, it’s hard defending a man who can make Casper’s disappearing skills seem so amateur.

And DOB if you’re out there what do you think? Would you take Sanchez of the pirates or our very own KJ?

Moby Grape

April 26th, 2009
9:41 pm

And yes Steve, consistency is very important. (BobbysCox)

consistently mediocre is just mediocre and you are out of your mind on about half of those 2nd basemen. Geez man get a grip. A little realism never hurt anybody Ekstein? OMG.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
9:44 pm

I’m sorry, I’m still a bit woozy from annihilating that wall with my head. Could you repeat that? And bring a few units of blood, I’m a bit low right now from….uh, what was I just doing again? I heard something about consistency and David Eckstein and I passed out.

Moby Grape

April 26th, 2009
9:46 pm

Hey STEVE, what page is that previously mentioned rant on, I’m kinda interested in reading it since it’s a different approach for you

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
9:46 pm

I’m being petty? You’re the one who said you’d rather have Eckstein, Lopez, Sanchez and a bunch of other scrubs over KJ. Dude, that was petty. But I’ve gotta give you credit on Nelson Cruz. Based on that, maybe you;re right with prado.

But, since you brought up this anecdotal evidence about this one game in the first week by Eckstein, did you happen to watch the three games KJ played a large part in winning for the Braves in the first week?

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
9:51 pm

[Sighs]

Halfway down pg. 3 into pg. 4. It’s got nothin’ on any of N8’s fine offerings but it’s too much from me for my tastes. At least I didn’t tell him to “shut his damn pie hole.”

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
9:53 pm

For those outside the Atlanta/St. Louis Markets — You can see the Braves tomorrow night on ESPN @ 7pm Eastern.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

Jacoby Ellsbury just stole home!

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
9:59 pm

Now THATS something you don’t see every day. Ellsbury just stole home.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
10:00 pm

Could Boston BE more obnoxious. Ugh. Anybody but these two. And I do mean anybody.

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
10:01 pm

Wait a second, David Eckstein? Felipe Lopez? Freddy F***in Sanchez?!?!?!

I mean, is he really that bad? Really????

You say you like KJ when he is “on”, but then you say you’ll take those three over him? Why? Just because they are consistent? Consistently bad. Yes, they certainly are that.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:01 pm

Braveheart, you really are a funny dude. Love sparring with you. I’m still sticking with Eckstein.

And thanks on the Nelson Cruz thing. You can tell he’s just a solid hitter. Not sure if you’ve seen him hit much. He doesn’t pull off pitches and hits it where it’s pitched. He’s taken a few tough pitches most guys couldn’t handle, low & in, and has twice driven them to the wall in strait away CF, which will fly over in the summer months. Dude’s got pop.

And yes, I have the same feeling with Prado. Could be wrong, but I think the Braves need his bat. His inside out swing will prevent long slumps. He also likes to go deeper into counts. He can turn on a pitch. He’s right handed. His defense will become like it was in 2006 with more playing time. The Braves need those things. When Kelly is on, no one on the Braves can compare. But a little steadiness would really help the offense.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:02 pm

wow to Ellsbury. Like to see that more in baseball.

Dan

April 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

Oliver Perez lit up AGAIN as Mets lose to Nationals.

Perez ERA: 9.31

Oh yeah, we should have gotten him.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:03 pm

Did you know Ty Cobb stole home 54 times in his career.

He also stole 2nd, 3rd, and home in the same inning 6 times in his career….

Unbelievable

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
10:05 pm

Efrim, when I regain feeling in my forehead I might be inclined to agree with you.

I seem to recall some team called the Penguins winning at something called “hockey?” Congrats.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:05 pm

that’s right Efrim…that’s exactly what I’m saying. I want to watch a team that can hit and score consistently and doesn’t make amateur pitchers look like Walter Johnson. I mean, you do realize that with these starting pitchers, scoring a few runs everday can lead to victories right?

N8

April 26th, 2009
10:06 pm

“Considering the three-year, $23 mill guaranteed contract the Braves gave Kawakami, I’d dare say they can, and will, go on for quite some time before “trying something else.”” DOB

Sure it’s early. But at what point are you “compounding” a poor decision with another, by keeping the guy on the roster BECAUSE of a contract?

I’m not jumping you for this DOB, but that’s the problem with guaranteed contracts in MLB. In the NFL, if Kawakami kept this up, he’d not only be riding the pine mid-way through the season, but he might be looking for work. Instead, he’ll get the ball every 5th day, and Braves fans will pray we score 8-10 runs those days.

Like I said, it’s early. I’ll cut him SOME slack. But nothing about him has impressed me. What I “read” about him at the time of the deal impressed me. The youtube clip of him striking guys out in Japan was impressive. But we have yet to see that guy.

Hard to believe that the Braves weren’t willing to “gamble” 5 million dollars on Smoltz, but had no problem throwing 23 milliond dollars and a rotation spot to Kawakami for the next three years. Makes Derek Lowes 60 million dollar deal look like a bargain bin deal, based on results so far.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:06 pm

Steve,

Are you drunk tonight? Cracking me up man…

DAP

April 26th, 2009
10:06 pm

i think there might be a little too much worry about kawakami. the guy hasnt dazzled yet, but he had 3 ok starts before this one. its one start, and he got knocked around in a small ball park by a pretty good hitting team. im pretty confident kawakami can finish this year with a better than .500 winning %.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
10:08 pm

Nope, but if I read the word “consistAnt” one more time I just might start, lol. 8)

Naw, the Steve you see here is the Steve you get.

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:10 pm

Are you drunk tonight?

I don’t know because I’ve been drinking all night.

N8

April 26th, 2009
10:11 pm

“im pretty confident kawakami can finish this year with a better than .500 winning %.” DAP

Sure he can. But will his ERA be below 6.00?? Will the team have to claw back into every game he starts? He looks like an expensive long-relief guy to me. Not any more impressive (if fact less) than Campillo and Buddy were last year. 23 million over 3 years, huh? Hmm.

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
10:13 pm

Steve from OH, thanks. They aren’t as good as last year(Penguins), but they still have a shot to get to the Cup Finals……

….and get their doors blown off by the Red Wings.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
10:14 pm

Speaking of drunk…this site is hilarious.

http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
10:14 pm

I don’t know when Freddy Sanchez became a scrub. I know there are a lot of teams out there that would love to have him as there 2nd baseman. If Sanchez has been consistenly bad please show me? The man batted .271 last year after two straight seasons of batting over .300 and is currently looking like that guy and batting .351 last year. Where has he been consistenly bad? Oh I know, this team loves to wait on that 3 run homer that occasionaly comes around so waiting out the inconsistencies on a guy like KJ is better than a consistantly good hitter.

Steve McP

April 26th, 2009
10:17 pm

Great to see Ellsbury steal home – wonderful baseball.

A thought on bringing up Hanson, those people proposing that, have you looked at his pitch count? He has not been able to get out AAA batters without running up the pitches, what makes you think that he will be effective in the majors at this point in his development? Not to say that he can work this out and become better, but for the moment I think he would be over matched in the majors.

Stands back and waits for diatribes about how Hanson is the Braves saviour…..

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
10:19 pm

Depends if Osgood shows up or not, my man. So far so good, but I’m not too confident playing the Sharks (or whoever wins the East) in a seven game series with Conklin in net, no matter how decent he’s been this season.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
10:20 pm

Oh wow, you’re so fanny Steve. I mean on a blog of all places how dare i spelll anything wrong. Well unlike KJ, at least i’m consitant.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:21 pm

Don’t worry Jake, KJ’s consistency is a problem. If you remember last year, KJ and the Braves acknowledged his consistency, or lack thereof. KJ said he needed to be more consistent. That was before September when he consistently hit very well.

Hopefully this post gets Steve to pick up the bottle ;)

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:22 pm

Kelly’s a prime example of what most of our guys are. He’s really streaky, doesn’t have a ton of power, and isn’t very good at stealing bases. Add that to Kelly’s fielding exploits and, well, that’s why people get sick of him. It would be a hell of a lot easier for some to stomach Kelly at second if we had more consistent hitters (and more consistent power) on the team.

Anyway, Prado could only start at second over Kelly if he were a plus defender and a plus speed guy. He isn’t. I’d like to see what he could do at second for a while, but barring injury, this won’t happen. Therefore, we’re just going to have to ride Kelly’s hot streaks and try not to tear our eyes out when he’s ice cold or kicks the ball around.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
10:22 pm

Oh wow, you’re so fanny Steve.

Thank yew, thank yew. I’ll be here all week, folks. I also do birthdays (for a nominal fee, of course).

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
10:22 pm

Jake, Freddy Sanchez put up a Frenchy like .298 OBP and a .371 SLG last season. Frenchy’s career was basically put on life support for putting up those numbers.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
10:22 pm

David Eckstein comparable to KJ? No, really. As Johnny Mac would say, “You can not be serious!”

I mean, you can’t be. No way. You just can’t be.

Eckstein, whose RBI totals in the past three seasons were 23, 31 and 27. A guy with a .712 career OPS and .361 slugging percentage — a guy who has NEVER slugged as high as .400 in eight full major league seasons.

You’re comparing him to a guy, Kelly Johnson, who entered with season with a .356 career OBP (five points higher than powerless Eckstein, by the way), but who has slugged .457 and .446 in his two full seasons in the majors, while totaling 65 doubles, 16 triples, 28 homers and 137 RBI in 2007-08.

Eckstein had 70 extra-base hits (seven homers) and 81 RBI in 1,258 at-bats during 2006-08. Kelly had 133 extra-base hits (37 homers) and 177 RBI in 1,358 career at-bats before this season.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
10:22 pm

Haha. From the text message site run heap run linked:
(212): guess who was drunk and crawling in the middle of the road and got brought home by the police last night? HINT: ME

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:23 pm

Hanson needs more time. But Medlen might be ready.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
10:23 pm

I don’t know when Freddy Sanchez became a scrub. I know there are a lot of teams out there that would love to have him as there 2nd baseman. If Sanchez has been consistenly bad please show me? The man batted .271 last year after two straight seasons of batting over .300 and is currently looking like that guy and batting .351 last year. Where has he been consistenly bad? (Jake W)

not sure that Sanchez is the one in that group of BobbysCox 2nd basemen who was being considered a scrub. He’s been a pretty good hitter most of the time since he started playing regularly really only missing on HR power. But some of those guys are…well let’s just say less than ideal replacements for KJ.

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:23 pm

Prado consistent?

2008

March: .250 OPS
April: .885 OPS
May: 1.000 OPS
July: .699 OPS
August: 1.103 OPS
September: .654 OPS

That is not consistent. That is streaky like Johnson. He had a lot of at-bats in July and especially September and stunk up the place and was hot in August (in May, he had just 2 at-bats.)

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:23 pm

I’m just glad the most consistent analyst in the history of baseball is consistently with us on Sunday nights.

Rob from SC

April 26th, 2009
10:25 pm

The reason why everybody (including me) is concerned with Kenshin Kawakami is; will the Braves keep him around becaise of his contract. Tommy Hanson appears ready. I would hate to keep him in the minors because of economic reasons.

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
10:25 pm

[Calling Bay Area Steve]

S-OH: Spare a scotch for a friend?

BAS: Define “friend.”

S-OH: Uh, me. Your buddy, Steve!

BAS: [Hangs up].

S-OH: [Bangs head repeatedly into concrete wall].

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
10:28 pm

HA:
(805): Dude?? where did you go after Wildcats last night? Last I heard you went off with one of the girls we danced with?
(1-805): Negative – This is his GF, Bobby is in Jail for a DUI. Thanks for the info.

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:29 pm

UPCOMING SERIES

Piñeiro vs. Jurrjesns, Advantage: Braves

Lohse vs. Reyes, Advantage: no one. Lohse sucks but Reyes will probably give up his usual five runs.

Wainwright vs. Vázquez, Advantage: no one. Both good so far this season.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
10:30 pm

Pettitte just picked Prado off ….. okay, that was petty

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
10:31 pm

Bobby’s, you didn’t perhaps want Jon Garland instead of Javier Vasquez this past offseason, did you?

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
10:31 pm

Hey Nolie, I’m only speaking for Sanchez. I don’t believe he should be grouped in with those other guys.

And Braveheart Sanchez hit .271 last year and has never been counted on to be a power threat as thats not his game. He was people call a table setter for power guys like Jeff. Thats like the Braves being dissapointed with Renteria those years when he was here because he didn’t give us 20 hrs. If hitting .271 is his down year i’ll take it.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
10:31 pm

Steve

When did 33 become a lot? Although he did have 82 in Sept he like all the other Braves faced mainly Mets and Phillies pitching, which were in a playoff race.

Now overall in terms of power KJ wins hands down. I think in terms of the prototypical 1 or 2 hitter Prado wins hands down.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:33 pm

Kelly Johnson just committed twenty errors in the top of the seventh against the Yanks.

(I do believe you’ve been owned, Braveheart.)

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:34 pm

You’re right DOB, i’ll just keep comparing Prado to Kelly Johnson. The Prado who has higher career BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS figures than Johnson :)

FlaBravesFan1

April 26th, 2009
10:35 pm

Chop Chop that should be Anal yst

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
10:35 pm

And honestly right now with Kelly hitting so low how is it hurting the team in having Prado start, not a platoon or anything but to either give Kelly a break or just take some pressure off him.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:35 pm

Efrim, no I wanted Vasquez.

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:35 pm

I’m sure they’re partying down by the banks of the Miccosukee Canal after Brad Keselowski’s big win at Talladega.

C's

April 26th, 2009
10:35 pm

Boy, the bandwagon has been on a bumpy ride so far this season. What with all of the people jumping on and off, on and off, on and off……

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:36 pm

For a bench guy, 33 is a lot. It was only one less than he had in April 2008 (34), and April 2008 was the month where he got his third most at-bats out of the seven months the Braves played baseball in that year.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
10:36 pm

Steve, Lohse has been off to a great start.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
10:39 pm

DOB, I’ve tried to ask you this 3 times over the past two days and have gotten no response. I know you have a lot of posts to read and can only respond to a few, so I’ll just keep on trying.

Have you heard of or seen the band called “RLA”? They played in a lot of places in ATL, but mostly Smith’s Old Bar and the Roxy a couple of times. Were in a lot of publications as a band to keep an eye on as they were bringing true rock back to Atlanta. Would just like to know what your thoughts were on them if you’ve heard them. Thanks!

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:39 pm

I just happened to wander over to Yahoo! a minute ago and found an interesting picture on that Talking Chop blog. It’s the fifth picture as you scroll down.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
10:39 pm

And Braveheart Sanchez hit .271 last year and has never been counted on to be a power threat as thats not his game. He was people call a table setter for power guys like Jeff. (JAKEW)

Don’t know where you’ve been eating, but when I’ve got a table setter with a .298 OBP who presents no threat to steal a base, I too often find myself eating off the un-swept, un-mopped floor with my bare hands.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:40 pm

OH-Steve,

Everyone knows BA-Steve doesn’t like to share his alcohol…

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:41 pm

The Prado who has higher career BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS figures than Johnson

In 348 at-bats. Not even a full season’s worth.

Dumbfounded

April 26th, 2009
10:43 pm

If Cox can send Jeff Franceour back to the minors, He can send Kelly Johnson !!!!!

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
10:43 pm

Is it me, or is Kawakami not throwing that cutter that much like we all saw on the YouTube video? If he is, it’s cutting right to the sweet spot of the guys bat. In the video you can see it jam the hitters like crazy and his curve was so much sharper than we’ve seen with us. It’s not that big of a deal if he’s getting a couple mil. because he was only brought in as a #4, but for $7M, he’s starting to get on some of our nerves.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
10:43 pm

Steve

In bench terms maybe yes, BUT a bench player isn’t always consistent. Thus you can’t really compare their monthly stats to those of an everyday player. If you must though. Kelly did only have an OPS of .661 in July so I guess both of them weren’t as good in July, but neither was the whole team. Hopefully this year will be different.

Now if KJ hit 6th,7th,8th many people wouldn’t have this conversation. He’s just too inconsistent for lead off, not for playing.

Heck I’ve sat here before…about 2 yrs ago…wondering why he got platooned when other guys were stinking it up worse than him playing everyday, but they’ve since come around.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
10:43 pm

Kotchman is not better hitter than Prado (MF)

of course he’s a better hitter than Marteen and with more power too, and 10 times as good defensively at first. Not even close between a choice of the two at first. sigh.

Steve

April 26th, 2009
10:44 pm

Efrim

April 26th, 2009
10:44 pm

“i’ll just keep comparing Prado to Kelly Johnson. The Prado who has higher career BA, OBP, SLG, and OPS figures than Johnson”

Plate appearances? But you know Prado would eventually do better, don’t you?

Sigh, I am heading to the bar after that last “Prado” (note: An insane comment will now be referred to as a “Prado”).

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:47 pm

Steve,

Some posted Prado’s splits last year. He hit .190 coming off the bench, but hit like .340 in his 40 something starts and with nearly 70 AB RISP. If you don’t think Martin can handle playing everyday, then look at the number with RISP. Shows he can handle pressure situations pretty well.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
10:47 pm

By the way, Gregor Blanco is hitting .179 (12-for-67) with two doubles, 17 strikeouts, three RBI, a .257 OBP, a .209 slugging percentage and a .466 OPS in 16 games at Gwinnett.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
10:47 pm

Kelly Johnson just committed twenty errors in the top of the seventh against the Yanks. (I do believe you’ve been owned, Braveheart.) (CHOP CHOP)

Nah, man, I think my mistaking Nick Green for Prado was the greater insult

Small Sample Size Insanity

April 26th, 2009
10:48 pm

OMG Prado is at .368!!!!1

Chipper is lower!!!!1

Prado is better for this season!!!!1

Mark in PA

April 26th, 2009
10:48 pm

“Hard to believe that the Braves weren’t willing to “gamble” 5 million dollars on Smoltz, but had no problem throwing 23 milliond dollars and a rotation spot to Kawakami for the next three years. “- N8

That is an interesting discussion for a day other than when KK gets lit up to end a win streak-

Sentiment aside, if Smoltz is still Smoltz on June 1, is $5M for four months of him a better deal than $23M ($7.7M/yr) for a #4-5 starter who wins 50% of his games (another assumption at this point)?

I was defending KK (before today) as doing a serviceable job. I did not see the game (Little League can trump MLB), but not sure that folks aren’t reading too much into this start in Cincy. I’m still remembering his first start in ATL- 8K, 2R in 6IP.

nolie

April 26th, 2009
10:49 pm

Hey Nolie, I’m only speaking for Sanchez. I don’t believe he should be grouped in with those other guys. (JAKE)

yeah I know Jake. Freddy had a mediocre year last season, but seems to be bouncing back. He was not much of a table setter last season with that OBP under .300, but I’m betting that was an aberration. Not sure I’d pay in prospects to have him over JK/MP though.

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:49 pm

DOB looks like he just read my comment about Eckstein in that photo…

Chop Chop

April 26th, 2009
10:49 pm

Nick Green is proven. Prado isn’t. Prado encapsulates all of our hopes and dreams. Nick Green has proven that he can’t fulfill them.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
10:50 pm

I’ve been eating at the down year table that Frenchy and Freddy ate at last year. I mean does KJ present a threat to steal? Sanchez had a bad year last year just like Frenchy. No one is trying to make what he did last year look pretty. I’m just saying if hitting .271 is going to be his down year i’ll take that over a .239 hitting year that Frenchy had. Still its hard to compare the two. Frenchy was counted on to be a guy that drove in runs when people were on base because of his power. And as I said Freddy looks to be back to his old ways prior to that down year while KJ looks like he is also getting back to his old ways which does not bode well for the Braves.

Jeff321

April 26th, 2009
10:50 pm

I like Prado but let me know when he gets 107 hits like Kotchman did in the first half of 2008.

Mark

April 26th, 2009
10:51 pm

Picture of Bowman and DOB

NICE GLASSES!

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
10:51 pm

Why are some of ya’ll bashing Kelly right now? Has he cost us a game recently that I’m missing? Yeah, he’s in a slump, what else in new! Nobody really hits except Chipper when we go in these funks anyways. So why single KJ out?

This is why analyzing every players struggles/hot streaks is pointless. Nobody can predict when a guy like KJ will break out again, or when Kawakami finds his “soul”…whatever that means. Every team has a Kelly for the fans to bash, so we’ve got tons of company.

Wet Blanket

April 26th, 2009
10:52 pm

I personally like Eckstein. Do I love his numbers? No. He has been hurt a few times in his career which has hurt his numbers. He’s one of those guys who played through some injuries and therefore his numbers suffered. Would I like to see Eckstein playing second for the Braves today? Nope. His career is on the downswing even if he still shows some flashes.

Does Eckstein hit for power? No. Is Eckstein gonna drive in a ton of runs? No. Will he be a hall of famer or ever post eye-popping numbers.
No and No.

He is a winner though. One thing he has that it is doubtful that KJ will ever have. That would be a World Series MVP trophy. There are lots of guys who can flash the numbers but never seem to be able to contribute at the right time to be able to flash a World Series ring.

In your court now.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
10:53 pm

Steve: Thanks a lot. Could you possibly have taken a more unflattering photo? I look like someone just rubbed skunk oil under my nose.

By the way, if you look close enough, you could see the Steve Earle and In-N-Out burger stickers on my laptop. Other than that, I’m completely disgusted by the photo.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
10:55 pm

Let’s just hope that when Martin gets his chance, he doesn’t pull a Doug Johnson. Dougie looked darn good that one preseason, but then he got his chance, and, oh boy, I’ve never see QBing that bad. Well, that’s not true, the Falcons got Kittner-ed that year as well. But at least Dougie and Kittner weren’t as inconsistent at QB as that dogkiller. :(

Bobby's Cox

April 26th, 2009
10:55 pm

Braveheart’s was more of an insult. Felt a piece of my heart missing when I read it. Sorry Chop Chop.

TnBrian

April 26th, 2009
10:56 pm

It’s alright Dave. You could be Kruk sitting next to you? He looks like he just ate the entire “In-N-Out” restaraunt! :lol:

Mark

April 26th, 2009
10:56 pm

As for Johnson, he is cold and as such the hate has started.

For any hitter not named Chipper, the support for that player starting everyday varies here week-by-week.

Look at the comments about Francoeur last year and in the offseason. Not in APRIL, all is peachy keen…at least until he (hypothetically) struggles big in May.

Look at the comments here about Schafer and KJ after the first ten games. Up until Schafer recently got hot, comments like “I miss Anderson” and “send him to AAA” were frequent.

KJ is cold, Prado is hot in 19 ABs, so people want Prado. But don’t kid yourselves, when KJ gets hot again or Prado struggles, it’ll be reversed.

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
10:57 pm

yeah I know Jake. Freddy had a mediocre year last season, but seems to be bouncing back. He was not much of a table setter last season with that OBP under .300, but I’m betting that was an aberration. Not sure I’d pay in prospects to have him over JK/MP though. Nolie

Oh i’m not advocating we get him, I was just responding to an earlier post by Braveheart that said name another NL 2nd basemen besides Uggla, Philips, Utley, and Hudson that would be better than KJ. KJ has the upside on power but SAncez has the avg. I also think for this team it would be better to have another right handed bat which is what Sanchez is. Sometimes its just the situation and the fact is, is that the Braves are a little left hand dominate in terms of hitting.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
10:59 pm

Guys, 5 million dollars isn’t what the Red Sox are paying Smoltz. If Smoltz is on the active roster from June 1-October 6 he’ll make 10.5 million.

PWHjort

April 26th, 2009
10:59 pm

So would you rather have 4 months of Smoltz at 10.5 million or 6 months of Kawakami for 7.33 million? I’ll make my decision after the season.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
10:59 pm

Wet blanket, no doubt Eckstein contributed big-time to the Cardinals’ World Series. He was voted the series MVP, actually. I covered that series, and he was solid.

But the question was comparing Eckstein to Johnson now. Not in a postseason series a few years ago. Over the course of a full season, right now. And it’s not even close.

Plenty of unsung guys have come up huge in postseason series. Eckstein was on a team that didn’t need him to hit for any power or drive in any runs. He was a consummate role player on that Cardinals team. The Braves, as currently constructed, need much more than that from their 2B.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:01 pm

LMAO @ just the name “Small Sample Size Insanity” Funny.

And I can just tell DOB was reading blog comments by the face he’s making in that pic.

PW – I could submit several drunk texts to that site, both sent and received…funny how everyone loves to play with their phone when they get smashed.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:02 pm

Andy Fox has got himself a World Series ring too. Boy was a winner with them 96 Yanks. Brought all them Yankee winning ways with him to Arizona, Florida, Montreal, and Texas. Yep, he did. Oh, what’s that? He didn’t? Probably didn’t because he was a 6′5″ middle infielder and not 5′5″ like little Davey. No, that’s not it, either? Just didn’t have great teammates to take him along for a great ride like lil’ Davey, you say? B.S., I say.

Steve

April 26th, 2009
11:03 pm

Some posted Prado’s splits last year. He hit .190 coming off the bench, but hit like .340 in his 40 something starts and with nearly 70 AB RISP.

Oh goody, “clutch” stuff.

Considering Prado’s small sample size for his major league CAREER, I can’t even imagine in how many at-bats that’s in.

Next people will be saying Prado’s 19 at-bats in 2009 are how he’d hit in 600 at-bats in one year.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
11:03 pm

Ugaman, I answered you earlier, but I see now that the comment got eaten. Sorry about that. Anyway, no, I’ve never seen or heard of the band RLA….

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
11:05 pm

Steve writes:

Picture of Bowman and DOB

NICE GLASSES!

Well, thanks, Steve. Or rather, THANKS!

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
11:06 pm

DOB-

random question from the blue eyed, half Swedish, 30 year old single girl that loves sports…do you happen to know where the Braves stay when they are in LA?

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:08 pm

I’m kinda disappointed you don’t wear a leather jacket in the box. Even on 80 degree days. I mean, how would any of us ever recognize you at a game? lol

Jake W.

April 26th, 2009
11:09 pm

Once again who’s hating on KJ. No one(or at least I)ever said the guy sucks or he is the worst 2nd baseman or something. Its just that the guy goes on these streaks and they reach such valley’s and peaks. What so wrong with giving Prado a chance as he can’t do much worse than KJ right now. You’re certainly not gonna take KJ out when he’s hot so now is the chance. Just give the guy a chance to prove whether he is good or bad. I know I never said Prado was going to be a god send. It just would be nice to see what he could do. Only thing definitive is the results and till he gets his chance people can make Prado the bext big thing since Chipper, but I don’t see most realistic people doing that.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:09 pm

The face of that Japanese reporter in that photo looks it is saying why the hell am I following this clown and not following Ichiro, Matsui or Dice-K?

Steve from OH

April 26th, 2009
11:10 pm

random question from the blue eyed, half Swedish, 30 year old single girl that loves sports…do you happen to know where the Braves stay when they are in LA?

Que the (with cretin voice, mind you) “hey DOB, give her my address, he he he” posts…

nolie

April 26th, 2009
11:10 pm

Sometimes its just the situation and the fact is, is that the Braves are a little left hand dominate in terms of hitting. (JAKE)

that’s true we are, but Kelly hits lefties PDG. :lol:

B

April 26th, 2009
11:11 pm

I’d take KK in the sense of as of right now today we know he’ll probably make every start. Whether shaky or not the Braves don’t have to ask him after every start if he needs to be taken to Dr. Andrews. I’m not trying to be mean, I love Smoltzie but I’m just being honest. Now if KK gets hurt it’s different, but still we have either Hudson,Hanson, Morton, Reyes, Buddy and endless capabilities to fill that spot.

I’m a firm believer in if we had kept Smoltz we wouldn’t have got Lowe, and we really needed him. Just think if KK and Hudson are still with us who most likely will be out of this rotation?

Lowe
Hudson
Jurrjens
Hanson
Vazquez
KK

HELLO

April 26th, 2009
11:13 pm

nolie

but he can’t seem to hit the side of a barn against righties, and that is bad.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:14 pm

I’m kinda disappointed you don’t wear a leather jacket in the box. Even on 80 degree days. I mean, how would any of us ever recognize you at a game? (RHR)

What do you think he is, friggin’ Fonzie wearing the leather everywhere? When Fonzie “jumped the shark”, the douchebag was actually wearing his leather jacket while waterskiing. Everyone focuses on how silly jumping the shark was, but I consider donning the leather while jumping the shark even sillier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

Wet Blanket

April 26th, 2009
11:14 pm

Watched the game today but only now having a chance to comment.

Even though Japan seems to be able to capture the World Baseball Classic and send some talent to the major leagues, Kawakami helps to demonstrate that the Japan Pro leagues ain’t American MLB.

Kamakami seems to have the stuff and ability of a number five starter. So does that make him unworthy of a rotation spot in the big leagues? Nahh, there are much worse than him I’m sure. I’m just not sure there are pitchers at his ability level that have 3 year 23 million contracts.

The good thing about developing or trading for young talent at the minor league level is that if it’s a trade, it may cost you some talent, but you’re not going to end up paying big bucks to some guy who hasn’t yet proven to be worth big bucks on the big league level.

That’s the risk in signing some guy from the Japanese leagues. He has yet to prove how effective he will be against American big league hitters, yet you have to pay him like a successful big league free agent. I’m not a fan of that philosophy.

For every Dice-, seems like there are 3-4 not so accomplished Asian pitchers playing here or who have played here in the past.

It’s not so much that Kawakami hasn’t pitched that well, it’s what the Braves had to pay and how long they are on the hook to him for him to NOT pitch that well.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:15 pm

lol braveheart, I was not serious….

Be glad when Bubdylan breaks the code for closed captioned text or whatever he was going on about last night. :)

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
11:16 pm

Well to get onto a new subject, via ESPN.com we’re going to see Lowe vs Hampton!

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:17 pm

RHR, how disappointed were you in Star at A-Day?

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:17 pm

Everyone focuses on how silly jumping the shark was, but I consider donning the leather while jumping the shark even sillier

You know what I always hated most about happy days? That nobody ever questioned why this creepy 40 year old man was always hanging around with high school kids.

bravos2249

April 26th, 2009
11:18 pm

But also Jojo will pitch vs the mets…

nolie

April 26th, 2009
11:19 pm

but he can’t seem to hit the side of a barn against righties, and that is bad. (HELLO)

Hello to you too. Right now he can’t hit the side of a barn against anybody, but I’m not sure I would say that about his career numbers against RHers His OPS+ against LHers is .796 and against RHers is .792. Not enough difference to matter let alone refer to barns about.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:26 pm

Braveheart –

I didn’t follow, A Day to be honest. Bama is just one of the many schools I’ve attended in my long and winding road to being a grown up. I follow the Tide from a safe distance. Love watching college football regardless of who is playing and I watched Bama every week and became a fan of some of the players but UGA is my first love and “my” team because it was my first. College that is. :) I know far more about what’s going on at UGA and Auburn (because my kid goes there) than I do about what’s going on at Bama..

I thought Star was a red shirt anyway? Most Bama fans I talk to figure he’ll only stick around 2 years at most if he has any success at all. It will be interesting to see how McElroy steps in JPW’s shoes.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:28 pm

You know what’s REALLY annoying? How the blog NEVER eats my meaningless little one liners but I write out some long response and it gets it every time.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:28 pm

You know what I always hated most about happy days? That nobody ever questioned why this creepy 40 year old man was always hanging around with high school kids. (RHR)

LMAO. Yeah, Fonzie should’ve been shagging Mrs. Cunningham, who was quite the MILF, but instead he was acting like Wooderson in Dazed and Confused, “That’s what I love ’bout these high school girls. I get older and they stay the same age.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo4kDrWBa6c

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:29 pm

Oh nevermind. :lol:

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:32 pm

RHR, my bad. Been meaning to ask Couch Tater about the A-Day thing, and asked you for whatever reason. I was bitterly disappointed in Star, but pretty happy about McElroy

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:32 pm

HA that is a great line from Dazed and Confused. I imagine Matthew McConaughey and Wooderson have a lot in common.

Ugaman

April 26th, 2009
11:33 pm

Run Heap Run, I totally relate to your frustration of the blog monster eating the long posts. Happens to me all the time too.

DOB,

Thanks for answering my post. Sorry if I came across nagging, but really wanted to know what you thought of RLA if you had heard them. By the way, “RLA” stand for “Red Letter Agent”. Pretty good band, I think. (I try to be objective since they are friends of mine) Have had some songs picked up by tv shows as background music. They just moved to LA trying to stir up some interest.

Braveheart

April 26th, 2009
11:35 pm

Alright, that’s enough blathering and babbling for me. Gotta be up at 5. G’nite.

Run Heap Run

April 26th, 2009
11:36 pm

I was talking to cabraves on here earlier about Glen Coffee going to the Niners so I can see how you’d think I was a bama fan. Star definitely has a lot of hype to live up to. Maybe the disappointment will be good for his ego, I had heard that he had the big head, big time. Which…what up and coming athlete doesn’t?

OK I’m outtie. DOB, remember about the blog title tomorrow. “Cards coming to town, Braves don’t stand a chance” or something like that… Deal? :)

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
11:39 pm

Ugaman-

What type of music is RLA? there are several stations here that play “Locals Only” from time to time and I’d be interested in hearing them…

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
11:41 pm

Let me add, yes, I am aware that they are not “technically” local but if they live here now that is most likely how they will get played at first…

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
11:44 pm

cabravesfan: At the Marriott downtown, off Figueroa St.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
11:45 pm

DOB-

Really? Interesting choice. Thanks!

Bubdylan

April 26th, 2009
11:50 pm

Run Heap Run, I read about 2/3 of that whole site you linked. I laughed my butt off.

David O'Brien

April 26th, 2009
11:51 pm

Ugaman, if you’d said Red Letter Agent, I would’ve said yes, heard of them. They were around Atlanta quite a while. Kinda poppy rock, right? Just hadn’t heard them called RLA, probably because I don’t know anyone who’s ever mentioned their name to me.

Bubdylan

April 26th, 2009
11:56 pm

So, I’m just scannin’ the blog, and I gather there’s now a pic of DOB with glasses. And, you know, cabravesfan was goin’ on about men with glasses last night. Then I look down and see this post in gray:

“cabravesfan: At the Marriott downtown, off Figueroa St.”

Mark in PA

April 26th, 2009
11:56 pm

DOB- Or title the blog “Braves Offense Comatose- with no end in sight.” The article could be full of woeful stats complied on the Fish sweep plus road trip, less last Sunday’s game in PIT and yesterday’s bashfest.

Maybe that will straighten them out.

cabravesfan

April 26th, 2009
11:57 pm

Bubdylan-

Skim slower next time :) I just wanted to know where the team stays in LA…

Couch Tater

April 26th, 2009
11:59 pm

Braveheart,

I didn’t get a chance to see the A-Day game. I did just read that John Parker Wilson agreed to a free agent deal with the Falcons.

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20090426/NEWS/904269946/1011?Title=Wilson-heading-to-Atlanta-four-others-to-sign-as-free-agents

Bubdylan

April 27th, 2009
12:00 am

cabravesfan, yeah, I got it put together now, I was just sayin’…

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:02 am

Bubdylan-

I can see how you went there ;) I suppose it would be kinda useful to know where DOB stays also…and I do like the glasses

Run Heap Run

April 27th, 2009
12:06 am

I did just read that John Parker Wilson agreed to a free agent deal with the Falcons.
SERIOUSLY!? Yay! I love that kid. He brings out the cougar in me. :lol: Shut up! He’s like 23 or something. Technically, I am NOT old enough to be his mom.

Uh anyway…carry on.

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:07 am

Run Heap Run-

Haven’t you heard? Cougars are all the rage now…very trendy ;)

nolie

April 27th, 2009
12:13 am

Haven’t you heard? Cougars are all the rage now…very trendy (CaBravesFan)

wouldn’t you know it, now that I’m too old to benefit. And where were all those sinful women teachers when I was in highschool?

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:16 am

Nolie, they were sleeping with guys like Jerrod Saltalamacchia…

Run Heap Run

April 27th, 2009
12:18 am

Eh…I like my age or older better anyway. Younger men get too attached and they’re hard to get rid of.

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
12:18 am

They were sewing flags for the Revolutionary War effort, nolie.

Dr. Ruth

April 27th, 2009
12:19 am

I was woke up and sent to this blog. What the hell?

Random

April 27th, 2009
12:20 am

Braveheart

It’s really only common courtesy to say “Thank you” when paid such a flattering compliment as Bobby’s Cox paid you at 9:39 pm.

Anonymous

April 27th, 2009
12:20 am

Sorry, David. I’m an idiot.

nolie

April 27th, 2009
12:29 am

Nolie, they were sleeping with guys like Jerrod Saltalamacchia…(cabravesfan)

I don’t know, maybe they just weren’t around yet. I played football and baseball and won a Merit Scholarship, you’d think they wouldda been interested. Had to wait till I got to college, and she was just a grad-student lab instructor.

Braveheart

April 27th, 2009
12:32 am

Random, if I took the time to thank everyone who thought who flattered and complimented me, I wouldn’t have time to do the things I get flattered and complimented about

nolie

April 27th, 2009
12:32 am

They were sewing flags for the Revolutionary War effort, nolie. (CHOP)

LOL. you’re just jealous cause you don’t have that older-man distinguished flair my friend. Which I can understand.

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2009
12:32 am

Ol’ Roachy hit two homers for Pirates in that win at San Diego, including a three-run job off Peavy…

cabravesfan: Westin Bonaventure downtown

Braveheart

April 27th, 2009
12:38 am

So, Nolie, in your day, hottest cougar? Martha Washington, Dolly Madison, Betsy Ross, or Susan B. Anthony?

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:40 am

DOB- so you stay in the nice place and the Braves get the marriot? How does that work?

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
12:40 am

I’m the older man to some, nolie.

However, my girlfriend is seven months older. She’s a real coug, man. While it is somewhat emasculating to be a boy toy, I suppose that someone should be made to suffer this indignity.

TnBrian

April 27th, 2009
12:40 am

LaRoche shouldn’t have been traded, and honestly, I couldn’t believe that happend. That was one of those bad trades Shuerholz did towards the end there. That and the Tex trade was a win now move by JS. That’s what confuses me when people bash Wren. If anyone screwed up or set us back, it wasn’t Wren. He’s actually done damn good work since he’s taken over.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
12:42 am

N8 He looks like an expensive long-relief guy to me. Not any more impressive (if fact less) than Campillo and Buddy were last year.

i dont know about that. kawakami Ks alot more guys than those two, and clearly has much better stuff. if you look at kenshin;s game log, the guy could easily be 2-2 right now if itwerent for some shaky defense, and hes only made 4 starts. 3 of them were decnt, so…what do you want from the guy?hes a #4 starter, after all.

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2009
12:43 am

It ain’t all that. Not bad, but it’s been around a long time and hasn’t been updated much. Besides, we’re almost always there on the weekend and you can get great weekend rates in downtown L.A.

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
12:44 am

“…the guy could easily be 2-2 right now…”

He isn’t, though. Cut him, Wren.

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:46 am

it’s one of the better choices if you decide to stay downtown (and you don’t want to overpay at the Biltmore or the Standard)…I’m actually kinda suprised the team stays downtown though

Isenberg

April 27th, 2009
12:47 am

Where do opposing teams generally stay in Atlanta, since team hotels are being discussed?

Ruse

April 27th, 2009
12:50 am

I feel I’m being played here…

David from NY

April 27th, 2009
12:51 am

DOB,

You see Josh Anderson in Detroit? .364 on the year after going 3-3 today and his 6th stolen base of the year. Glad to see he’s doing well. Not saying the Braves should have kept him but he is outperforming Jordan by a bit. The OBP’s are closer. Small sample size but good to see Josh doing well in Detroit. It was time for Schafer.

nolie

April 27th, 2009
12:57 am

Random, if I took the time to thank everyone who thought who flattered and complimented me, I wouldn’t have time to do the things I get flattered and complimented about (Braveheart)

OK true story. In Freshman English Comp class in college I did a paper on Sci-Fi and it’s relationship to main stream fiction.
I wrote to many of the big names of the time(64-ish), Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein and quite a few others. Clarke wrote back from India area with some good comments and some ideas how to do a better job of asking(generally be more specific and lots of yes/no answers for busy authors. Heinlein wrote back with a similar comment to the response you just gave. ” I can spend my time writing acclaimed books, or answering inquiries like yours.”
Oh well, At least he wrote 8)

nolie

April 27th, 2009
1:02 am

So, Nolie, in your day, hottest cougar? Martha Washington, Dolly Madison, Betsy Ross, or Susan B. Anthony? (BH)

oh no question, Dolly Madison. ++hottie plus she used to bake the greatest sweet treats.umm umm Susie was always horny, but a bit plain looking. I was too scared of George and his damn hatchet to fool around with Martha, and Betsy was always working on that flag.

nolie

April 27th, 2009
1:04 am

I suppose that someone should be made to suffer this indignity. (CHOP)

yeah it’s a tough job, but somebody has to do it.

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
1:15 am

Dumbfounded

April 27th, 2009
1:15 am

Should have kept Josh Anderson and got rid of Matt Diaz ! Why are the Braves Hesitant of getting rid of Diaz ! He is not a starter, bad in the field ! No pitcher gets jelly legs when Diaz comes up to bat !!!

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
1:15 am

P-Town Brave (Schafer for Leadoff)

April 27th, 2009
1:16 am

Braveheart, Steve from OH, Moby-

David Eckstein has a World Series Ring AND a World Series MVP Award…

What the f’ing h*ll has Kelly Johnson done?!

Oh yeah, I can answer that….NOTHING!

Eckstein may not have gaudy numbers, but himself along w/ all those guys BC mentioned in his list were all if nothing else, more CONSISTENT than Kelly…

That no matter how you want to put it can not really be argued…

Especially when you consider if not for September last year Kelly would’ve been around the .250-.260 mark…

Whats Kelly hitting now, oh yeah, .212…

This isn’t golf is it? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

I’m very tired of the “Prado hasn’t proven anything” argument…Explain to me what Kelly has proven, other than being able to tear the cover off the ball for 1-2 weeks at a time and then go into deep slumber like a hibernating bear?

Really, this conversation makes no difference whatsoever because whichever way you cut it, the stubborn old man is going to stick to his cards…

I just hope you guys all enjoy watching Prado produce in another uniform…I know I for one will absolutely hate it!

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 27th, 2009
1:17 am

As significant as this is, it needs to be addressed.

The acquisition of Garrett Anderson led to the sacking of Josh Anderson, which in turn forced Bobby Cox to play Jordan Schafer everyday and with no other option than to bat Kelly Johnson in the leaf off hole.

This whole scenario has been a disaster. It’s like watching domino’s fall.

If Frank Wren doesn’t add Garrett, Josh Anderson stays. Cox has a much more flexible line up, Schafer doesn’t have to play everyday and we have somebody other than KJ to lead off.

I know, I’m making to much damn sense. But, Frank Wren and Bobby Cox have no one other than themselves to blame for this mess.

Dumbfounded

April 27th, 2009
1:20 am

Right on Coach !!

Frank from KS

April 27th, 2009
1:22 am

Braveheart re” your 8:22 post

Nice…Lol.

DOB re: your 8:46

I happened to have seen Peavy’s line on ESPN’s little ticker tape on the bottom of the screen during the Yanks/Sox game and said…”OUCH”. Peavy got knocked around pretty good.

PWHjort

April 27th, 2009
1:25 am

Coach, wasn’t the idea to use Brandon Jones in left rather than Josh Anderson if we hadn’t gotten Garret and hadn’t traded Josh?

Frank from KS

April 27th, 2009
1:28 am

Hey Coach

Since you think YOU make so much DAMN sense….why don’t you call Mr. Wren up and say “Hello Mr. Wren…you can go take a hike…..I’ll be GM now”…and let’s see how much DAMN sense you make to him.

I don’t think that would work in your favor.

1995

April 27th, 2009
1:30 am

@@&*++##@!**&^%!!!!!

That’s Japanese for Kawakami sucks.

P-Town Brave (Schafer for Leadoff)

April 27th, 2009
1:31 am

Coach-

Anyone other than KJ leading off would be a significant improvement at this point…

(sarcastically) I would take David Ross at this point…

But really, I’m tired of everyone putting down Prado and building up Kelly like he’s some All-Star when he’s not…he play at a position in which majority of the time is a non-power position (excl. the obvious like Utley, Kinsler, Phillips, etc.) BUT a position that usually commands you be above average defensively (which he certainly is not)…

That right there really is the least of our problems….the real problem is his lack of consistency on both sides of the diamond for an already streaky team…

This team needs someone who is more consistent (notice i didn’t say GREAT) AND someone who is more team oriented and Martin fits both those criteria…

No prolonged slumps, too high highs (which yes are nice) OR too low lows(see Kelly) and you generally know what you’re going to get from him on a nightly basis…More than that, at least watching Prado play, I get the sense that he’s leaving it all on the field all the time, every game…I really don’t get that w/ KJ, who sometimes acts like he has somewhere more important to be.

What we really need on this team are more players that we know what we’re going to get out of on a nightly basis…and honestly, who can we really say that about day in and day out?

McCann was about it…

Chipper if he’s healthy…but thats a big IF…

Anyone else and you can’t really say that…(if Casey continues to hover around .300 we will be able to say that about him)

Thats my point love it or hate it…

Dumbfounded

April 27th, 2009
1:31 am

Must be a die heart fan !! People like that can’t see anything wrong the Braves do ! purposely blinded !!

N8

April 27th, 2009
1:39 am

Yes, Fonze wearing the leather jacket was much more silly than jumping the shark itself was.

However, what the hell was he wearing for swimming trunks? Looks like a damn cloth diaper, for cryin’ out loud!

nolie

April 27th, 2009
1:39 am

Eckstein may not have gaudy numbers, but himself along w/ all those guys BC mentioned in his list were all if nothing else, more CONSISTENT than Kell (P-TOWN)

consistency is great if you are consistently good, not worth a damn if you are consistently poor, which most of that group are. Eckstein is a cog, no matter what he has, he got it mostly on the shoulders of a group of better teammates. Granted he had a great postseason one year, Lemmy had three or so of them. BDD. Neither one is gonna lead this team to the playoffs. Can’t hit worth a damn as it is, without adding a skank like Eckstein, or any other of those dudes.
I can understand BobbysCox wanting to try Prado, but throwing out those last 6 or so names was …foolish.

PWHjort

April 27th, 2009
1:41 am

We should’ve pulled the trigger for Ryan Ludwick while we had the chance is what we should’ve done. He’s hitting like the 2nd best OF in the NL right now (behind Beltran). Imagine a team of even using Prado at 2nd, Ludwick, Schafer, Frenchy, Kotchman, McCann, Chipper, Escobar, and Prado. Pretty good offense. 4 righties, 3 lefties, 1 switch hitter. And the lefty we lost hits lefties better than righties anyway so it’s not even like we changed the platoon advantage at 2B anyway.

Steve

April 27th, 2009
1:57 am

Ok, Braves should have kept Josh Anderson and nothave signed Garrett Anderson

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 27th, 2009
2:00 am

Hey Frank, is your name Wren?

Dumbfounded

April 27th, 2009
2:01 am

Wow ! Tim Brown has the Royals a head of the Braves in the Power Rankings !

Frank from KS

April 27th, 2009
2:07 am

No Coach, it’s not.

scottbravesfan

April 27th, 2009
2:13 am

I think we can get the Cardinals tomorrow. JJ is going and Chipper is pretty hot. Hopefully we can get a win.

N Nine

April 27th, 2009
2:13 am

Nice picture DOB! You look much younger than your blog pic! You weren’t kidding about Bowman outweighing you. :mrgreen:

N Nine

April 27th, 2009
2:15 am

scottbravesfan- we won’t, off day!!

DOB- when are you joining Joe and Boog? Having seen the top 5 introduction songs.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 27th, 2009
2:16 am

Check out the power rankings and especially, the comment on our Braves.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/powerRankings

Ronald Millsaps

April 27th, 2009
2:21 am

This team continues to shoot itself in the foot and not use its own players where they’re most apt to succeed. I’d insert Jordan Schafer into the leadoff role immediately–unless we’re going to bring up Gregor Blanco and ask him to play left and bat leadoff, an idea that might not be too bad.
If we do, I’d move Schafer to “two” and have our two fastest guys atop the order.
I’d then move Francoeur to cleanup and Johnson to the “eight” slot.
Schafer might not be as ready for leadoff as Bobby would like, but he has an astute eye for the strike zone, is fast, and seems to be the kind of guy who can prepare during his at-bat for the situation. In other words, he’s prepared to compete whether he gets ahead in the count or not. I don’t expect him to step in and be as good as Reyes, Rollins, or Ramirez, but Johnson clearly is out of place there and has been each time he has been used there, and Schafer is the fastest guy on the team currently.
I watched the first inning of both games this weekend. After the first at-bat of each, I had a gut feeling tell me who would win and was right both times.
Many might badmouth the Blanco idea because he’s not playing very well in Gwinnett currently. Throw the Gwinnett numbers out the window. Here’s a guy who proved a year ago that he can produce here, and he was only a rookie. If his average climbs 10-15 points, that would be excellent. Of course, his on-base percentage is equally in play here. Furthermore, he’s the fastest guy on the team and can cover the most ground in the outfield, and you have to love the way he can foul pitches off over and over, which gives teammates a good look at a pitcher’s repertoire.
On a different note, “nolie”, I saw your comment about the “vocal minority” in this country getting its way. No, my friend; you’ve got it all wrong. The vocal majority gets its way, and unfortunately, oftentimes it’s just one person speaking up in the face of millions who stand and watch. We get one person not wanting to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance, not wanting to hear a Christian prayer at graduation, etc., and we take the non-democratic, unconstitutional approach of catering to such an individual. Speaking of unconstitutional, don’t even get me started on Roe v. Wade, judicial tyranny, and other hallmarks of the Left.
In conclusion, I’m confident that the Braves will have a strong season; I’d just like to see Schafer and Johnson switch spots in the lineup. Johnson, if he gets to bat 550-600 times, should provide a fine home-run total, and I’m praying for Brian McCann.

N Nine

April 27th, 2009
2:24 am

There you go folks, another classic post by Coach, “I was right, I knew it”

N Nine

April 27th, 2009
2:30 am

“Throw the Gwinnett numbers out the window. Here’s a guy who proved a year ago that he can produce here,”

Did I miss something last year, Blanco didn’t knock my socks off.” What did he produce Ronald? He didn’t leadoff that well. His base running skills really lacked. Didn’t hit that good. Doesn’t have a cannon arm.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 27th, 2009
2:53 am

N Nine, I’m only right 90% of the time. But thanks.

Yes, I was opposed to the signing of Garrett Anderson.

No, I did not want to trade Josh Anderson, I wanted him and Jordan Schafer on the 25 man roster.

Speed kills, defense helps. The Braves traded both for the gamble that is Garrett Anderson.

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
3:05 am

Aah, where to start? Where’s whiskey? And, no Bobby’s Cox (your name is juvenile and imbecilic; I like it), not a big fan of sharing. Unless KC is buying, like at the blog get-togethers.

OK, first, tell me somebody else was hoping for our resident cougar, Run Heap Run, to explain the postage situation involving her daughter.

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
3:16 am

Since Coach is around:

scoots, he told you straight up, “shut your pie-hole.” (How do you not take the bait?)

I’m not sure if your repost, on the new blog, was the cause. But, I’ve gotta say, I seem to remember a particular rant…

Perhaps the rule should be: if you’re a jack-ass, don’t repost. If you have a cogent idea, feel free to give us a second opportunity to see it.

Extending: MFin04, TnBrian, Robert (the donkey one): no reposting.

And, damn my whiskey-addled brain, for not being able to remember the 5, or 6, or 37 others, whose names belong here. (Except that, at least I can leave out my own, because of the whiskey…have I ever mentioned how much I like the whiskey?)

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
3:28 am

Ohio Steve:

You are one of the few here I would share a scotch with, were you to call. Well, let me clarify: I would share a small amount of my 1.75 liter, cheapest whiskey available, definitely not scotch, with you. (Told ya Bobby’s, I don’t like to share.)

Really like your minor-league stuff with Efrim, and I forget the third guy. Really like all three of your posts, your balance, SABR v. observation.

By the way, Efrim, I’m sensing a little bit of frustration from you, re KJ. ‘Tis very subtle, but I think it’s there.

KJ believer here, but with the ups and downs, ya gotta be ready to take some heat.

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
3:38 am

I feel more accepted, blogging by myself.

Nature v. nurture? Dumb-ass? Do you pity the douche? We report, you decide.

And, I must post again, to MFin04, that you’re a MFer now. Seriously. I can’t be much above an 80, but you, sir, require a helmet.

No offense to those who need a helmet. You need one, this cat NEEDS one.

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
3:52 am

cabravesfan, thanks for not takin’ offense, and going with the joke…or at least the attempted joke.

DOB, for reasons other than cabravesfan’s, what hotel to the boys stay at in San Francisco?

Wow, that sounds gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

nolie

April 27th, 2009
4:18 am

(BAS)

hey dude, you ain’t alone all the time tonight, though I am fixin’ to retire with a demijohn of beaujolais to my boudoir with the glass ceilings and the vibrating bed. Au revoir mon ami. “And so To Bed”.

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2009
4:28 am

Bay Area Steve: Cracking me up. Which is hard to do at this time of morning (got to catch a predawn flight home).

In SF, team’s at Westin St. Francis, at least in the past. I think that’s where they are again this year.

Bay Area Steve

April 27th, 2009
4:57 am

demijohn, beaujolais…wholly cow, the Google machine’s gonna get a workout.

OK, so the DVR is the best thing I’ve ever known. Computers, good. Hygiene, very good. Baseball, awesome…but can someone tell me why I’m still DVRing “Prison Break?”

And, thanks DOB. Although, I’m not sure why I asked…except that I think it’s cool that type of stuff is out in the open. If I was fifteen again, I’d be gettin’ barred from the Westin.

Random

April 27th, 2009
5:13 am

nolie (12:57 am) —

Harsh — Heinlein was one of my favorites (particularly his “juveniles”), though he quite lost it toward the end.

(Clarke probably was in Sri Lanka.)

Thanks for the story.

Coach (2010 or bust)

April 27th, 2009
5:45 am

Steve’s all sh!ts and giggles this morning.

Good stuff indeed!

nolie

April 27th, 2009
6:33 am

Harsh — Heinlein was one of my favorites (particularly his “juveniles”), though he quite lost it toward the end.

(Clarke probably was in Sri Lanka.) (Random)

You’re quite right about all of the above. I started RH juveniles in about the 4th or 5th grade and read him for years. Glory Road is one of my favorites though particularly light-hearted for him. He did lose it , his latter stuff got weirder and less coherent.
Clarke was somewhere around Sri Lanka. Nice guy, really helpful. Heinlein already had a rep as a prickly bastid so I wasn’t too surprised by what he wrote.

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
6:38 am

I’m not sure if your repost, on the new blog, was the cause. But, I’ve gotta say, I seem to remember a particular rant…

Absolutely correct, I went against my own belief on that, first time ever. Because the absurdity of the the premise to which I responded caused a temporary imbalance, I guess. I was feeling pretty cranky at the time, and the tools and dolts just needed some back-atcha. Won’t happen again.

As for the pie-hole thing…I’m the grown-up.

nolie

April 27th, 2009
6:39 am

but can someone tell me why I’m still DVRing “Prison Break?” (BAS)

I got no clue dude. I have the first season on burned dvds but I fell away during the second one. Drifted away from Heroes the second season and Lost during the third one. All three started out good.Lost a couple of favorites this year;Life and Boston Legal are going. I liked them both a lot. I’m really gonna miss Sarah Shahi. Chuck is on the cusp. Not sure about Burn Notice yet, buy I’m keeping my fingers crossed on that one.

Mitchie-san

April 27th, 2009
6:51 am

Same here with Heros and Prison Break. The first two seasons were awsome…and then faded and I lost interest. I am still hanging in there with Lost, though not as closely as I was. I am tired of all of them draaaging the plots out….

Thats why I watch Rescue Me.

Couch Tater

April 27th, 2009
8:09 am

Braveheart,

RE: your 11:32, I tried to get up-to-date. Many think A.J. McCarron or Phillip Sims will be the next great QB. (It’s kinda like prospect huggers.) FR,Star Jackson and SO,Thomas Darrah(from Newnan,GA) both need to improve their reads and will likely compete for the backup role,this year. Evidently, neither Star or Darrah had great protection during the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBqjpcVc6E4

Ugaman

April 27th, 2009
8:18 am

DOB,

Sorry about not saying Red Letter Agent in the previous posts. They told me they were going by RLA in ATL. Yes, they were in ATL for about 5 years playing in many different venues and going on a few tours around the States and once overseas. They really love U2 and I think they’ve tried to pattern their music after them. James Templeton is the lead singer/song writer for the group. He’s really talented,(IMHO). I’d love for you to check them out sometime and let me know what you think. You can check them out here:
http://www.myspace.com/redletteragent

Steve from OH

April 27th, 2009
8:23 am

BAS, I’m honored that you would share your cheapest non-scotch with me. Great stuff last night…

David Eckstein has a World Series Ring AND a World Series MVP Award…

What the f’ing h*ll has Kelly Johnson done?!

Oh yeah, I can answer that….NOTHING!

Eckstein may not have gaudy numbers, but himself along w/ all those guys BC mentioned in his list were all if nothing else, more CONSISTENT than Kelly…

That no matter how you want to put it can not really be argued…

What the hell is wrong with you people? BAS, I’m gonna need a helmet to protect me from all these walls people make me want to smash my head into. Jesus, people, this is like baseball 101–David Eckstein sucks. I mean, seriously, he consistently OPSes around .713 a year and consistently hits about 5 home runs a year. Why would we want a second baseman who, in his two full seasons with the Braves, OPSed about 100 points higher than that and averages 3x as many homers a season? Do us all a favor, go over to http://www.firejoemorgan.com (RIP), search “David Eckstein” and read the literally millions of enteries regarding said ballplayer. Educate yourself, and one day you too can prevent me from smashing my head into a concrete wall.

cabravesfan (12:16)–yeah, tell me about it…

dogsbrekky

April 27th, 2009
8:28 am

Morning all

Interesting last week or so, fatty Moylan has looked better but still does not look 100% fit to me…

Gonzo looks terrific and back to 2006/7 levels it appears

We need more “animal instinct” on the hitting side, we just do not scare too many people when we get behind in a game,………….. at least we are giving Brandon Jones another shot, he looks much better at the plate this year

KJ is a real worry at 2nd base, he doesnt get to many almost routine balls at 2nd or effs up very simple plays… how long do we let him make blunders or allow a 200 ish average………… let the Prado kid play and show us what he has for a whole week or 2

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
8:35 am

The Marlins, despite a six-game losing streak, remain in first place in the National League East. But Nationals manager Manny Acta, whose team has already played everyone else in the East, said Sunday he still considers the Mets and the Phillies the favorites.

“It’s not a secret that the team here [in New York] and the team in Philadelphia will be battling it out until the end,” Acta said. “Florida has a starting rotation that is going to give everyone in the division a hard time. The Braves have a good rotation, and they have Bobby Cox. They could make it tough, but at the end I think it’ll be the two that have been battling it out the last two years.”

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
8:38 am

In his last 13 decisions dating back to last season Santana is 12-1 with a 1.05 ERA. Yes, he loves pitching in the NL.

Marv Kleeman

April 27th, 2009
8:49 am

Some thoughts about the Braves eighteen games into the season:

The biggest blunder of the 2009 season was the decision to trade Josh Anderson.

I, for one, was looking forward to the Josh Anderson era of Atlanta baseball. For the first time since Rafael Furcal was a rookie back in 2000; the Braves had a leadoff hitter who could create havoc on the basepaths. An improving hitter who was almost impossible to erase once he reached base.

Then the Braves go out and sabotage their own game plan and for what purpose but to accommodate some young upstart who comes to camp and makes a big impression.

This is not meant as a putdown of Jordan Schafer as his time will come. But if Schafer is indeed a better player than Josh Anderson than why isn’t Schafer our new leadoff hitter? Instead he is buried in the eighth spot in the batting order to protect him against major league pitchers.

So we trade our opening day leadoff hitter (Josh Anderson) but the guy we replace him with (Jordan Schafer) is only qualified to bat eighth in the lineup.

And now we are once again stuck with Kelly Johnson as our everyday leadoff hitter.

It’s going to be a long summer.

Blame

April 27th, 2009
8:52 am

All Atlanta Brave problems are a result of batting Kelly Johnson leadoff.

Original Jon

April 27th, 2009
9:05 am

Doc Holiday, so i take it you arent counting No Decisions then, correct?

flange1

April 27th, 2009
9:17 am

Morning All,

In all of Coach’s rants on speed, the only part that I can agree with is that Josh Anderson is a perfect 4th OF. Good defense and he can run.

But to be able to keep him on the team, you have to have a full time (not a platoon) LF.

At this point that is NOT GA, BJ or Matt Diaz.

AT the time GA was signed and Josh was traded, the Braves did not have a full time LF.

SO, unfortunately, Josh had to go.

IF the BRaves could have pulled off the Ryan Ludwick for KJ deal (which I don’t believe was ever really discussed) Prado could have played 2B, Josh would be the perfect 4th OF. (probably bye bye Matt Diaz)

But all of that is spilled milk….

My hopes are that Brandon Jones RIPS the ball while in the ATL and gives Braves management an option if GA can’t get it going.

Both KJ and Mattie should heat up…..

Slugger

April 27th, 2009
9:21 am

Marv -

Great analysis.

Do you work closely with Al Davis?

Josh Anderson needs to either learn how to walk before your comments can have any sort of relevance, at all.

We’ll see what you say in two years when Jordan steals 25-30 bags and hits over 20 HR (all with a higher .OBP than JA).

Thumbs down for your post.

Cameron

April 27th, 2009
9:23 am

DOB,

What is your honest opinion on Kenshin Kawakami? I think he has looked masterful at times. But, obviously not so much at others. His control has never been a problem, until now. I don’t know if he hung a lot of breaking balls in Japan and got away with it, but he will not get away with them here. I think he can get it together. If it is a mechanical problem, I don’t trust that Roger will fix it too much.

Slugger

April 27th, 2009
9:24 am

All -

I still think we should have traded/signed or kidnapped Micah Owings to be our long-term left fielder.

He has three doubles already.

Sethual Healing

April 27th, 2009
9:26 am

The textsfromlastnight.com site is great. Feels like college…

Run Heap Run

April 27th, 2009
9:31 am

The Josh Anderson Era? Apparently I was overly medicated when he got in those 40 games for Atlanta last season, wish I had been paying more attention. Sounds like I missed out on the next Ricky Henderson.

Also it appears that overnight I have been deemed “the resident cougar”? How embarrassing….

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
9:32 am

Original Jon,

That was a copypaste from cbs or fox…….dont remember 100%.

Epinephrine

April 27th, 2009
9:45 am

So Kelly has a bad April, which should mean a good May. I have to say, it is disappointing that he appears no closer to developing any kind of consistency. I do think he is not at all suited for the lead-off role (or about as well suited for it as Casey Kotchman is to hitting cleanup-those two should be 7/8). But I don’t know what the alternative is.

KK looks pretty bad, but given that he is playing in a new country with a new ball, I think we are going to have to ride this one out until at least around June. Considering the money we are paying him, he will get a prolonged shot at proving he doesn’t belong in the pen. And honestly, he deserves that chance. Too early to give up on him.

As for Hanson, if anything, he has proven that he absolutely needed to be in AAA. Until he can get out of the 5th inning consistently (with fewer than 100 pitches), he isn’t ready to consistently contribute to the major league club. I think he will be flat out filthy by the end of May-but this was a stretch he needed.

Steve from OH

April 27th, 2009
9:47 am

The “Josh Anderson Era??” What era is that, the era of .720 OPSes?? Man, what was Frank Wren thinking?

18 Wheels of Love

April 27th, 2009
9:51 am

KJ seems like a great guy and he has a great upside if he can ever level out his peaks and valleys. My problem is that his defense makes me hold my breath every time a ball is hit to him. Yesterday was a good example on the ole’d grounder up the middle, granted not the easiest play, but he made a terrible attempt at it. He’s serviceable at lead-off but certainly better suited for a different spot in the lineup. We aren’t in the worst position with him at 2B and leading off but both I imagine there is a better solution.

McFann Ô

April 27th, 2009
9:54 am

Steve

Haha…thanks for posting that photo…

McFann Ô

April 27th, 2009
9:57 am

OK, time to start all the when-the-heck-is-it-gonna-be-3-o’clock-or-whatever-time-DOB-gets-to-the-clubhouse-so-we-cann-find-out-the-latest-on-McCann posts.

Count that as being the first. :P

Original Jon

April 27th, 2009
10:13 am

Ok, cool, in his last 13 games pitched he is 10-1 with 2 no decisions. One of those NDs was against Atlanta.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
10:20 am

p-town bravea position that usually commands you be above average defensively

if every 2nd baseman was above average defensively, wouldnt that make them all average…? i dont think your statement is accurate.

coach i dont disagree with you exactly, but if the braves had kept josh anderson, they probably still would have signed garrett andderson. josh would be playing CF, and we wouldnt have schafer. i get the point of your post, but looking back, it wasnt garrett vs. josh, it was josh vs. jordan.

nolie you need to drift back into watching lost. season three was in the midst of the producers trying to figure out where to take the show. during the season, they agreed on an ending date for the series, which really propelled the show full steam ahead. the end of season 3 has some of my favorite episodes, season 4 is short but real good, and season 5 has been very good so far.

Random

April 27th, 2009
10:21 am

Don’t know if this was mentioned yesterday, but imo Kawakami did not hit Janish in the 5th yesterday.

RH-hitting Janish squared for a bunt and the pitch glanced off his right hand (which was on the bat) and then ricocheted off his right shoulder and hit the ump (or Ross — I forget which). You could see janish shaking his hand as he went to first, and taking his glove off and looking at his hand once there.

If I’m not mistaken, a pitch hitting the batter’s hand while it’s on the bat does not count as HBP. Am I wrong about that?

So essentially, Janish fouled the ball off his shoulder. Ump didn’t hear the ball hit the bat ’cause it hit his hand.

Did anyone else see the replay that way?

CB

April 27th, 2009
10:23 am

The trading of Josh Anderson was a bad mistake in that it took away flexibility in our lineup. I have been of the belief that Greg Norton is the one that should have gone. The issue was forced with the signing of Garrett Anderson. I still wish the Braves would have given Brandon Jones a chance instead of Garrett imo.

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 27th, 2009
10:30 am

Random–If he had offered at the pitch and it hit his hand, yes, it would be a foul ball, just as if he had swung at a pitch and it hit his hand. Since he was pulling the bat back, it is a HBP because he didn’t offer at the pitch.

DirtyYuni

April 27th, 2009
10:36 am

In case those of you arguing for Josh Anderson (which is water under the bridge at this point) would like some evidence to strengthen your case, you might cite his numbers in Detroit so far:

Games:14
ABs: 33
Runs: 9
Hits: 12
Doubles: 3
Triples: 1
HRs: 0
RBIs: 6
BBs: 3
Ks:4
SBs:6
CS: 1
OBP: .417
SLG: .515
OPS: .932

Those are pretty good and numbers the Braves could surely use at the top of their order. I was all for going with Anderson in center, too, and was sad to see him go. But, Schafer was the heir apparent and made a much stronger case in the spring. So, I don’t necessarily think the Braves made a bad choice. Just hasn’t worked out perfectly so far, especially with Kelly doing a pretty poor job leading off.

Carroll Rogers

April 27th, 2009
10:42 am

Good morning folks. Just wanted to check in. DOB is on his way back from Cincy and I’ll be on the clock today. Working on a new blog to post here around lunch time. Stay tuned…

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
10:42 am

Kawakami is getting done in by one bad inning in his starts, so that says to me that the teams catch up to his pitching pattern and hit him. Do you all think that if this continues, does he go to the pen and we call up…Hanson?

Random

April 27th, 2009
10:43 am

nolie (6:33 am): “He did lose it , his latter stuff got weirder and less coherent.”

Yeah, that’s what happens with some writers when they get too “big” (and big-headed) to suffer an editor. Happened to RAH immediately after Stranger, sales of which set him up for life, probably.

Same thing happened to Piers Anthony right after his Cluster and Xanth successes. As I recall, the first book affected was called Mute. That monstrosity was begging for an editor.

8-)

DirtyDawg

April 27th, 2009
10:44 am

I still say that if Dusty Baker thinks so much of Kelly Johnson, then we should work out a trade for Brandon Phillips right now while both of ‘em are in a funk. Brandon’s a much better second-baseman (Golden Glove, I believe) and is sure to hit with power – something we’ll be lacking for the rest of the season if we don’t make some moves.

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
10:44 am

Other than that, I love the way the pitching staff has been keeping us in games, and the pen is starting to close out and win the one run games.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
10:45 am

randomIf I’m not mistaken, a pitch hitting the batter’s hand while it’s on the bat does not count as HBP. Am I wrong about that?

i think youre half-right. if the ball hits the batters hands while swinging or squaring to bunt, then its a swing and a foul ball. if the batter is not swinging, then it is a HBP.

if swing or go to bunt and then try to stop your swing to dodge the pitch (for instance, pulling your hands back suddenly) then its a HBP.

janish was squaring to bunt, but if you watch the replay, he was pulling back and trying to move out of the way when the ball hit him, so its a HBP.

if janish had stayed right there, squared to bunt and taken it off the hands, it would have been a foul ball, or if a player takes a full swing and the ball hits him, its a foul ball.

i think. :-)

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
10:51 am

All Atlanta Brave problems are a result of batting Kelly Johnson leadoff.

As good a summation as we are likely to hear in this forum, LOL. I think I’ll go with that.

Johnson is doomed on the blog, anyway. The guy can’t have a slump without inviting six gazillion “inconsistent” comments. That’s his label here, and, as long as he is human and like every other MLB player, he’s going to have slumps. And get ripped for them every time. Just the way it is; doesn’t much matter that peaks and valleys occur with all players.

The guy would have to errorless in his next 3000 chances for some here to forget a single error in a game long ago, and he would have to hit .280+, week in and week out, 24 weeks in a row, to lose the “inconsistent” moniker. Neither of those will happen, and some here will always call for his ouster when they don’t. The name of his blog-favorite replacement may change, that’s all.

McFann Ô

April 27th, 2009
10:52 am

Ms. Rogers Working on a new blog to post here around lunch time. Stay tuned…

Don’t worry, I will!

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:00 am

KJ is only keeping the leadoff seat warm until they feel JOrdan Schafer is ready to take it. It’s only temporary folks.

Interested Observer

April 27th, 2009
11:03 am

Now that someone has captured a picture of DOB and Bowman in the same place, we have to continue our search for a picture of the ever elusive Carroll Rogers.

Heath

April 27th, 2009
11:05 am

Carroll and Dave, How will tomorrow’s big changes affect coverage of our Braves? I am sure that the powers that be are smart enough to let y’all do what you already do very well, but you never know.
Btw, congrats to the AJC on losing Cynthia Tucker. Maybe that will help prevent more nearly 20% readership losses.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:06 am

DAP (10:45 am)

Gotcha — thanks. I do recall his bat being at something like a 45 degree angle when the ball got there — so presumably he was pulling it back.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:07 am

How long does he take to put Jordan Schafer higher in the lineup that or try Infante there. The top of the order not consistenly getting on base is killing our team. That and not having any power 1-9. Left field or first base has got to get some power soon.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
11:07 am

brandon phillips is a nice player with good power, but a francouerish OBP. i think you could argue that kelly is still better than phillips offensively. although phillips is much better with the glove.

Efrim

April 27th, 2009
11:09 am

ncscoots, but why is that? Did Kelly do something personally to some here? I just don’t understand it. It’s really sad. Like I said before, I hope the kid gets traded, maybe to the West Coast.

18 Wheels of Love

April 27th, 2009
11:09 am

ncscoots, you need to re-review KJ’s peaks and valleys. They are massive and while I don’t know how they compare to other productive second basemen out there, I know they hurt us. Kelly is either really good or really bad. For a guy that is expected to produce, he needs to level that out. Sure, every player has slumps but KJ’s seem to be extended. And while he did get hot in Spet., it did us no good since we were long gone. Gotta true it up for us to be successful.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:10 am

Heath (11:05 am): “Btw, congrats to the AJC on losing Cynthia Tucker. Maybe that will help prevent more nearly 20% readership losses”

Take it to “The Vent”, jackass.

Knowitall

April 27th, 2009
11:11 am

Run Heap Run,

I always assumed that you were a guy so initially the cougar talk really threw me for a loop……

Tomas

April 27th, 2009
11:12 am

How will the Braves face Pujols? It is not possible. The offense needs to make at least 5 runs, and always have the bases empty for Pujols.

ozzie

April 27th, 2009
11:12 am

KJ was, is and always will be a streaky hitter. Many fans and Braves mgt are waiting for some miraculous turning of the corner that may never come at least not at the level this team needs from its lead off hitter.

Some guys just are streaky there is no crime in that.

You can live with guys like that especially great club house guys (KJ is a great kid and team player) but not at lead off and likely not in a line up that has too many other question marks. In the latter case the implication is Prado at 2B and KJ in LF or traded for an OF bat or middle reliever.

The first thing BC should do (starting May 1st) is move KJ to 7th in the order and leave him there no matter what happens. Weld KJ to the 7th spot and never look back.

Next put Schafer at lead off and commit to it for 2mos. If after two months he cannot hack it then try someone else (likely some one who will be acquired via trade).

The bigger problem for this team is LF. Diaz is picking up where he left off in 08 before he ran in the wall. The guy is a 4th OF and is seeing far too much playing time.

Heck I would rather start BJones every day and only see Diaz when Brandon needs a day off.

Diaz as a starter is the same level of decoy that KJ is at lead off. You think you have something but you are looking through rose colored glasses.

Bottom line a .500 to sub .500 ball club in this division does not go to the playoffs in any shape or fashion.

GA is a bust. Diaz is a bench player. Wren needs to make a move but in the meantime give Bjones a shot to win the job at least until the deadline. I doubt he will be worse than Diaz who like KJ has shown us the best he can offer and that best is far outweighed by the lack of consistency (in their respective roles).

18 Wheels of Love

April 27th, 2009
11:13 am

Put it this way with KJ…on a team with a ton of power, his defense and stats might get over looked. On this team everything is magnified because there is a need for everyone to produce more evenly.

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
11:14 am

I dont care who hits leadoff………..it just cant be a guy hitting .212………….no matter what his name is.

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
11:14 am

The top of the order not consistenly getting on base is killing our team.

Johnson and Escobar have each scored 9 runs this year, even given how poorly each has hit over the last week-plus. Jimmy Rollins and Jose Reyes have not. Guess it’s time to move those guys down in the order, too, huh?

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:14 am

Would Braves have to give up KJ and another player to get Brandon Phillips?

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:15 am

KJ hits better when he doesn’t hit in the #1 position in the lineup, but who else do we have until Schafer is ready. Infante?

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
11:16 am

Sure, every player has slumps but KJ’s seem to be extended.

Like this?

First six games: 11-for-24
Next six games: 3-for-25
Next three games (last played): 5-for-12

Yunel Escobar. He inconsistent, too?

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:17 am

NOW I wish we would have done the KJ for Ludwick deal lol

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:18 am

Macon Braves (10:30 am) –

Thanks.

Efrim

April 27th, 2009
11:21 am

ncscoots, but Escobar is clutch and plays great D.

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
11:23 am

Lets put it this way……….you move schafer to the leadoff spot, he hits .250. You move KJ to the 6th spot, he climbs to .280 and gets 20% more chances to get RBI than when leading of. Is that considered a good lineup move or not?

abwright

April 27th, 2009
11:23 am

Random, 10:21 am “Don’t know if this was mentioned yesterday, but imo Kawakami did not hit Janish in the 5th yesterday.

RH-hitting Janish squared for a bunt and the pitch glanced off his right hand (which was on the bat) and then ricocheted off his right shoulder and hit the ump (or Ross — I forget which). You could see janish shaking his hand as he went to first, and taking his glove off and looking at his hand once there.”

When I watched it live, I thought that the ball had glanced off Janish’s hand (on the bat) for the reasons you listed. On replay, it did not look like it hit his hand. Even if it had hit his hand, he was drawing the bat back, rather than offering at the pitch. I’m pretty sure that in that circumstance, the hand is not considered to be part of the bat.

It glanced off Janish’s shoulder, then hit Ross and may have hit the ump as well.

Regardless, it was not a good pitch in that situation. I think it was a good call.

monty

April 27th, 2009
11:25 am

Throw out yesterday’s performance by KK and say hypothetically speaking, Glavine was pitching and had KK’s same stats going into yesterday’s game, IMHO most people would be very happy with that. Very optimistic, so why all the doom and gloom over one rough start for KK? Can anyone really believe that if Glavine had started as many games this year as KK has, that some team wouldn’t have “lit him up” at least once? C’mon you know they would. Granted more money is invested in KK right now, but did anyone really believe he would come in and start winning immediately without any learning curve? Be reasonable. Suddenly everyone is an expert and all the BRaves scouts are idiots. KK has Vazquez type stuff except that Vazquez has been pitching and winning in MLB for years now. At least give KK a few months before you write him off as a horrible deal.

Original Jon

April 27th, 2009
11:29 am

Monty, I was in full agreement with you until you said KK has Vazquez type stuff. That is off base by a lot.

Run Heap Run

April 27th, 2009
11:31 am

Hey Carroll, good to have you, even though Dave threw you under the bus when he pointed out that the Braves were 1-4 on your watch. The trick is when you write today’s blurb you need to really talk up the Cards, how good they are, how amazing Pujulos is and how crappy the Braves are.

Knowitall – I guess my name isn’t very girlish, don’t really care if people know if I’m male or female, not trying to get a date here..and not really a cougar either. :)

I’m pretty sure there’s a pic of Ms Carroll on the FB group page.

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:32 am

KK has had one bad inning that seems to doom his whole start. I think he might have to make adjustments as the games go on, because it seems the hitters are making adjustments in the middle innings, and that’s when his bad innings have happened mostly.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:32 am

getnathan (10:42 am): “Kawakami is getting done in by one bad inning in his starts, so that says to me that the teams catch up to his pitching pattern and hit him.”

I dunno — yesterday’s 5th inning was a fluke in at least 3 aspects: the HBP on the bunt attempt, hitting Janish’s hand as he was pulling the bat back; the hit baserunner which prevented a DP; the infield single, which (with 2 outs and the IF palying back) would’ve been a routine ground-out (if the previous ball had not prevented the DP).

Don’t remember his first 3 starts as well as yesterday’s — we’ll see.

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
11:32 am

Efrim, I wasn’t knocking Escobar, at all. Just trying to refute the fallacies of logic inherent in most of the Johnson diatribes. What the heck, I have a little time on my hands today and it doesn’t take a whole lot of research to knock holes in most of the arguments, LOL.

Truth is, I might be coming around to the idea that KJ isn’t comfortable hitting leadoff. I believe that most hitters hit, regardless, but still…

Unfortunately for him, if he isn’t still hitting leadoff when he breaks out of the slump, he’ll just reinforce the perception that “he hits better lower in the order”. Whether it’s true or not (my personal jury is still out on that one).

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:35 am

Even with the HBP, no runs at all would’ve scored in the bottom of the 5th if we had got that DP and the following 6-3 ground-out.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:36 am

KK has pitched well…the D has let him down a lot. 3 starts before last… 6 innings 3 ER, 6 innings 4 ER, 5 innings 2 ER, that isnt too bad for a fourth starter. The offense needs to score some runs in order to get KK and the rest of the staff some wins. Ask JJ how run support is.

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 27th, 2009
11:37 am

Doc–Yes, I think that is a good lineup move. I move Escobar down to 6 or 7 as well though and put Kotchman in the 2 hole.

1. Shafer
2. Kotchman
3. Chipper
4. Francaeur
5. McCann (when off DL) Johnson till then
6. Johnson (Escobar till McCann back)
7. Escobar
8. Diaz/B. Jones (Ross here and these two move up to 7 till McCann comes back)

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:37 am

By the way Schafer has scored 10 runs…and doesnt have a guy named Chipper hitting behind him.

bravofan

April 27th, 2009
11:38 am

Really were trying to come up with a deal to trade KJ stay with him guys he will boucnce back

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
11:39 am

This KK situation is kind of alarming. He is not fooling anyone so far. Hope this is an adaptation thing and that the braves find their way out of it.

Sethual Healing

April 27th, 2009
11:39 am

Does anyone know how Tim Hudson is doing with rehab?

By the way, next year’s rotation is going to be filthy if he can come back strong. Lowe, Hudson, Jurrens, Vasquez, Hanson, (Kawakami?), (Medlen?)

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 27th, 2009
11:39 am

Maybe flip Johnson and Escobar when McCann comes back to break up McCann and Johnson being lefties.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:39 am

Im sure there is a good reason…but why not put Ross in the 4 or 5 spot since he has some pop in his bat? It’s like 2 weeks before McCann is back correct?

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:40 am

I don’t live in ATL, but the highlights I’ve seen of KK, he baffles hitters. he strikes them out looking on pitches that look like they are right down the middle, so he mixes his pitches well apparently, and he knows what he’s doing out there, but I think he needs to avoid these big innings. It looks like he’ll pitch 4 scoreless innings and give up 1 or 2 hits, and then in the 5th he’ll give up 3 or 4 runs.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
11:41 am

random in kawakami’s last start, an error led to two unearned runs. the braves lost 4-3. so you can see how that one could have been different. its not like kawakami has been blowing them away, but hes been the victim of some bad luck.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:41 am

abwright

Thanks. Yeah, it looked to me too that he was pulling the bat back — I just didn’t know the rule.

You, DAP and Macon Braves are unanimous in your schooling of me. Thanks to all!

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
11:42 am

By the way Schafer has scored 10 runs…and doesnt have a guy named Chipper hitting behind him.

No, he doesn’t. He has a guy named Johnson hitting behind him. And your point?

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
11:43 am

Outside of Chipper, McCann and (maybe) Yunel , our everyday lineup is streaky. If you need proof, go look up Matt Diaz, Jeff Francoeur, Kelly Johnson and Casey Kotchman’s career month-by-month career totals. Schafer’s a typical rookie, so he’s going to have cold streaks.

Kelly catches the most hell because his streaks are much more pronounced.

bravofan

April 27th, 2009
11:43 am

I like the idea of Ross in the 5 i dont know about the clean up spot just yet maybe if he does well in the 5th spot move him up maybe he has some pop remember that bomb he hit in Pittsburg

McFann Ô

April 27th, 2009
11:44 am

Just saw the replay of Tacoby Bellsbury stealing home. That was great! And being against Pettitte made it all the better.

Yeah…stealing home is pretty cool, but hopefully no one will ever do it against us…

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
11:44 am

Great post by me.

If I type “career” one more time, I’ll be the Joe Morgan of “career.”

DAP

April 27th, 2009
11:44 am

doc

i disagree. i have personally seen kawakami fool some guys. hes got good stuff.

Chop Chop

April 27th, 2009
11:44 am

And so it goes.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:45 am

DAP (11:41 am): “in kawakami’s last start, an error led to two unearned runs. the braves lost 4-3. so you can see how that one could have been different. its not like kawakami has been blowing them away, but hes been the victim of some bad luck.”

That’s pretty much what I was thinking. Am I now off the hook from going back and looking at his first 2 starts, then? I mean since we agree and all. Please?

;-)

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
11:45 am

Macon Braves (RIP),

Thats a good idea, but as it was discussed yesterday, I prefer having Yunel behind Schafer and use the hit and run as a regular weapon since yunel makes lots of contact. Once Schafer is on the move it would be easier for the ball to find a hole.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:46 am

Point is Schafer is the catalyst to our offense and would score a lot of runs if he was batting in the first spot in the order. This team is lacking in offense…why not try to jump start it with Schafer in the one spot. His speed might help us getting an extra run or so a game.

bravofan

April 27th, 2009
11:48 am

what is wrong with KK he has pitched in 4 games yall always find something to nit pick are yall forgetting that this is his first year in the majors!!!!!!!!!!

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
11:49 am

Kawakami has shown he can pitch well, but he has to avoid that one big inning. I think he has only one quality start (6 IP, 3 runs or less). It probably could avoid that big inning. It seems like he’ll pitch scoreless ball for four or five innings, but then give up 3 or 4 runs in an inning, thus making his whole start when in actuality he didn’t pitch that badly.

Random

April 27th, 2009
11:50 am

Chop Chop (11:44 am): “Great post by me.

If I type “career” one more time, I’ll be the Joe Morgan of “career.””

And you could apply to be Chief of the Department of Redundancy Department.

Doc Holiday

April 27th, 2009
11:50 am

DAP,

He has good stuff but second time around he is getting hammered. So far he has not been an upgrade from james……..

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:51 am

I think we have all argued that the big inning…has always had an error in it….sooo….

Macon Braves (RIP)

April 27th, 2009
11:52 am

MFin04—I wouldn’t mind at all seeing Ross in the 5 hole as long as he’s swinging a hot bat.

Doc—Thing about Escobar in the 2 hole is he’s lacking patience so far this year. Would rather see Shafer try more straight steals but hit and runs would be better than what going on at the moment. Thing about Kotchman to me though, he doesn’t seem to have quite as much power as Escobar (I know both are more “gap power” than homerun power, just think Escobar is more consitent power) Therefore his patience would be more suited for 2 hole and Escobar to me is more of a run producer.

But no matter where you put Escobar, I think he’s got to start being more patient.

Efrim

April 27th, 2009
11:53 am

ncscoots, I wasn’t knocking Escobar either, just saying that everyone blames KJ for all of the Braves problems. It bothers me…..

and people don’t understand what sample size is….that bothers me too.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
11:53 am

random haha, im not sure if im reading you well. i offered that tid bit about kawakami’s last start to support your previous point….but yes, i forgive you. for whatever.

abwright

April 27th, 2009
11:54 am

McFann Ô, 11:44 am“Just saw the replay of Tacoby Bellsbury stealing home. That was great! …Yeah…stealing home is pretty cool, but hopefully no one will ever do it against us…”

But if it’s got to happen, I guess you wouldn’t care as much if it happened in the next couple of weeks.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
11:56 am

Macon….do you still have the Whoopie hockey team? Also..Kotchman would be a good #2 if and only if a speedy guy was in front of him like…Schafer…he could be patient and let Schafer get to second. It’s worth a try. The thing I dont understand is why when we arent scoring any runs…do we continue to send the exact same lineup out there? Its just insanity.

McFann Ô

April 27th, 2009
11:58 am

abwright

Yeah, that wouldn’t be quite so bad…

;)

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
12:00 pm

So…if this continues to happen to KK, does BC put him in the bullpen and call up TH, or CM? My initial thought (no pun intended) is that if it does continue, he goes to the pen.

Random

April 27th, 2009
12:00 pm

MFin04 (11:46 am): “Point is Schafer is the catalyst to our offense”

What does that even mean, “catalyst”? Whatever you want it to mean, I suppose.

Schafer has a combination total RBI and Runs Scored of 13, lower than any other regular starter except for Kotchman (10 for him). KJ has 18.

You call that a “catalyst”?

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
12:00 pm

[Schafer] would score a lot of runs if he was batting in the first spot in the order.

Sure he will. At some point. What’s the harm in getting the guy another 30 ABs at lower stress before making him deal with the greater adjustments to pitching and game situations that he’ll encounter hitting 1? Do you really think that having him hit leadoff today rather than a week from today is going to impact the season that much?

More likely, the extra experience before thrown into more difficult circumstances will help him adjust more quickly once it happens. Still have five months of the season to go, best to be sure as possible that Schafer can stay at leadoff once he gets there.

Steve from OH

April 27th, 2009
12:01 pm

Efrim, you can shout it from the highest peaks and no one will hear you. Face it, people just have this innate hatred of Kelly that will even force them to say things like “boy, would’nt it just be dandy if David Eckstein was on our team?”

And yes, I too wonder if the meaning of sample size is lost on these folks. And after reading the blog, I’ve decided that yes, it is. Badly.

And yes, it bothers me too. Just like the folks blaming Bobby or the “lack of speed” on our troubles bothers me too. I guess there’s nothing to do except shake your head in amazement at the sheer stupidity plastered upon these pages time and time again. Fight the good fight man, I’m with ya on that one.

DAP

April 27th, 2009
12:03 pm

doc

im just not sure im on board with that, yet, because weve seen in each one of his losses, something happen that he cant control. in each of his last two losses, there were errors that lead to runs, and yesterday, the weird HBP that only happened because the guy was hanging over the plate trying to bunt, and the would-be double play that got messed up led to a huge inning.

with out those errors in the the other two games, we may have seen kawakami go deeper into those games, and had we gotten the double play, the whole game could have been different.

for now, im gonna say its more luck than kawakmai putting fat pitches up there, because the other team has been getting extra outs off of him alot.

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
12:03 pm

…and admit it, MFin04, you’re really just Doc Holiday under another moniker, right?

cabravesfan

April 27th, 2009
12:04 pm

McFann-

10:00 for the first “what’s up with Mac’s eye?” post? What, did you sleep in this morning? I’m very disappointed young lady! ;)

Bay Area Steve-

No worries, it would take a lot more then that to offend me!

Sethual Healing

April 27th, 2009
12:05 pm

Macon Braves, I don’t think Escobar is necessarily lacking patience. If I remember correctly TP and YE worked on being more aggressive at the plate this spring so it may be more strategic. If you look at his stats this year his average is up, slugging is up, his Ks are down. He’s putting the ball in play. It’s be different if he were like Francouer last year, swinging first pitch and hitting .222 because of it. But he’s not.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
12:06 pm

“Schafer has a combination total RBI and Runs Scored of 13.”

You see a lot of guys in the 8th spot with a ton of RBIs and Runs Scored. KJ isnt a leadoff hitter…he is better suited middle of the order. Put Infante there if you’d rather. We need to change something up. I dont really care what it is….put a new lead-off hitter in…and a new-cleanup hitter would be nice.

ncscoots

April 27th, 2009
12:06 pm

Efrim, buck up, bro. My guess is that Kelly must have kissed a lot of bloggers’ sisters in the past, during his single days.

Using “kissed” euphemistically, of course, LOL.

Wayne in Utah

April 27th, 2009
12:06 pm

Efrim/Steve,

Can you say “banging your head against a brick wall”? That is what is feels like to try to bring some logic and sanity to some on the blog.

Rock On.......

April 27th, 2009
12:09 pm

Denizens here pointing out that Hanson needed the seasoning in Gwinett and backing it up by saying he can’t get out of the 5th inning, well they aren’t being realistic.

Gwinett is a bad team and having seen them in Richmond over the years don’t expect a whole lot. The fact that he can’t last 5 innings there is no barometer to how he will fare in Atlanta. I am sure the Braves have no worries whatsoever. About Hanson that is, Leadoff guy—now there is a source of concern.

Rock On.......

April 27th, 2009
12:12 pm

A “new cleanup hitter” and new “leadoff hitter”? Are we trading for these type players? How about different players. In either case the Braves are hurting.

Run Heap Run

April 27th, 2009
12:12 pm

So…if this continues to happen to KK, does BC put him in the bullpen and call up TH, or CM? My initial thought (no pun intended) is that if it does continue, he goes to the pen.

They’re paying him too much money to stick him in the pen. I wouldn’t look for that to happen any time soon. As far as Hanson goes, I like the kid as much as anybody but he hasn’t made it past the 5th inning in Gwinnett yet has he?

Rock On.......

April 27th, 2009
12:13 pm

Run Heap Run…..see above

Knowitall

April 27th, 2009
12:18 pm

Rock On,
What does Gwinnett having a bad team have to do with Hanson’s ability to pitch past the 5th inning? “The team” isn’t the cause of him throwing 100 pitches through 5 innings.

HuffBraves

April 27th, 2009
12:19 pm

My favorite nuggets of wisdom from today’s FOX Sports Power Rankings:

Twins: “Kevin Slowy has appears to be straightened”
Mets: “Tied with the Mets for the league lead in triples”
Rockies: “Jason Marquis is doing his part. Rest of the staff”

FOX Sprts editors has appears to be tied with Fox Sprts editors for worst editing on the Internets. Rest of the staff.

Efrim

April 27th, 2009
12:20 pm

If the Braves do have a mediocre season, they will most likely have to upgrade somewhere. I’m not sure they will be going after a high priced corner outfielder. Jason Heyward is in LF/RF late 2010, starting 2011. So if they decide to keep Frenchy in RF, than I think they upgrade will come in the middle infield or first base, obviously. So I think eventually, many bloggers here will get there wish and Johnson will be off the team. Maybe Escobar. Maybe Kotchman(although Freeman is a really, really good prospect).

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
12:20 pm

We’ll see what happens in Kawakami’s next start. I want to see if he can avoid that one inning where everything seems to fall apart (happened to Hudson one year). I think he will. We just need to get some timely hitting and some smart baserunning because we’re not gonna hit the ball out of the park a lot to score runs. Pitching top to bottom will keep us in games.

Random

April 27th, 2009
12:20 pm

DAP (11:53 am): “im not sure if im reading you well. i offered that tid bit about kawakami’s last start to support your previous point….but yes, i forgive you. for whatever”

What I meant was, after I “explained” how Kawakami’s last start was a fluke and not necessarily bad pitching and said “we’ll see” about his first 3 starts, I meant to go back and look at them. But then you explained how he’d lost the start before last because of 2 unearned runs.

I thought then that maybe I was off the hook from looking at his first 2 starts.

But getnathan (12:00 pm), (11:49 am) & (11:40 am); and Doc Holiday (11:50 am) & (11:39 am) seem to need more convincing.

Carroll Rogers

April 27th, 2009
12:21 pm

New blog should be up.

Billy Walsh

April 27th, 2009
12:23 pm

Some of my observations after 18 games….

1. Kelly is still too inconsistent at the plate. Is he going to be mediocre for most of the season and then end the season with a hot streak once again?

2. 11 million for Vaquez next year might be a bargain.

3. Schafer reminds me a lot like BJ Surhoff (both offensively and defensively)

4. I know its early….would the braves have been better suited to sign a bat rather than sign Kenshin?

5. As for Hanson…he hasn’t pitched badly. 0-3 2.18 ERA 29 k’s in 20 innings. Sounds more like run support then anything else. I would be more concerned with Morton’s 6 ERA.

MFin04

April 27th, 2009
12:25 pm

I was going for switching the lineup not trading for players…but it might end up coming to that.

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
12:35 pm

I never said KK pitched badly. He just seems to have one inning where he gives up runs. I think he’ll learn to avoid those and give us a chance to win more games, being that the bullpen has started to come around (even Jeff Bennett’s .400 oba)

David O'Brien

April 27th, 2009
12:41 pm

but can someone tell me why I’m still DVRing “Prison Break?” — Bay Area Steve

Hilarious. Because I’m doing the same thing, and asking myself same question. But I can’t stop.

Meanwhile, Breaking Bad is phenomenal, keeps getting better. Just watched last night’s episode when I got home this morning.

George

April 27th, 2009
1:01 pm

**THIS IS OFF THE SUBJECT BUT I HOPE YOU ARE LIKE ME IN THAT I AM TIRED OF WATCHING THE ALL-STAR GAME WITH ONLY ONE OR TWO ATLANTA BRAVES PLAYERS… IF EVERYONE WILL COMMIT TO VOTING ATLEAST THE MAXIMUM 25 TIMES A DAY UNTIL JULY AND WE CAN GET 1000 PEOPLE TO DO IT THAT WILL BE 25,000 VOTES PER DAY… COME ON BRAVES FANS LETS GET OUR BOYS TO THE GAME SO WE CAN ENJOY IT MORE…**

getnathan

April 27th, 2009
1:06 pm

wishful thinking George, but who are we going to vote in? I think to this point that Jair Jurrjens is deserving, to me. I can’t think of anyone else who is.

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