2:44 pm April 20, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
April 21st, 200912:13 am
Gosh, Diaz swings at everything.
Marlins finally lose and the Braves cannot even make up ground against the Washington frickin’ Nationals.
You guys have been fun…Thanks for letting me play. I may not be a Braves fan any longer; however………Go Falcons!
April 21st, 200912:14 am
MFin04: “I’ll buy that argument Pete.”
Its expensive lol
do those of us on the west coast count?
Oh well. What can you do? It’s the Nationals.
*slams head into screen*
Another rookie pitcher beats the Braves. What a bunch of s***.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the scrip club
Kudos to the 12 fans who waited that one out. I left 2 hours ago.
The Wren and Stimpy Show
April 21st, 200912:15 am
I have never been more ashamed to be a braves fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Escobar is the only Brave would be willing to get in a fight and maybe ross…they rest play so passively…..no heart…
No, I haven’t haha but you cruise through the mountains so that’s enough for me
Thanks Carroll…..please take a cab; SE/SW DC is not so safe this late at night.
Beat by the lowly Nats, how pathetic. The Nats were 1-10 and they beat our ‘Ace’, good GOD this offense blows. another quality start wasted. Tell me, why did Lowe sign here? Pretty sad when you get beat by the FRIGGIN NATIONALS!!!!!!!!
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
But its early……..at least in the season……..LOL………..
Not gonna waste energy tonight posting about this clowns.
Cardinals are gonna rape this team ………….
Im speechless…the offense sucks…the starter today wasnt good enough…and needs to be better and go more innings…and the bullpen…altho a trainwreck doesnt give up anything. Ironic…
I don’t give a damn. We’re 13 games in. Losses like this are more troublesome 130 games in. We’re just not far enough in for me to see red.
Wayne in Utah
Dang that Matt Diaz. All he did today was go 2 for 4 with a homer that accounted for all our runs. What an azz hole, huh!
OK folks, please continue with your critical analysis of the game. You are all such baseball experts. I suspect that you’ll get a call tomorrow from Frank Wren asking you to come on board as his special assistant.
G’Nite to the sane bunch!
1-4 to start road trip… ie yei yei!! That no good. Lets hope Lowe isn’t a bust because I’ve not been at all impressed with him outside of his start in Phily. Joe and “Boog” can take that “quality start” and shove it!
April 21st, 200912:16 am
1-3 to start road trip…excuse me.
If anybody hasn’t figured it out yet, we are not going anywhere near the playoffs.
Not gonna win the division, not gonna win the wild card. Third place might be a major achievement.
April 21st, 200912:17 am
Oh gosh we are 6-7!!! Season over!!! No way we rebound from this start!!! Yes, I’m being sarcastic. This blog is ridiculous.
Cant beat a AAA pitcher……….HAHAHA……….this bud is for you bobby cox………..enjoy it!!!!!!!
Yes, I’ve been a life long Braves fan, even when they really sucked in the 80’s. My point wasn’t about hoping that the Braves play well and being disappointed when they don’t, but more about the venom that is spewed on this blog. I really enjoy reading the blog, but when people start spewing, it just ruins it and causes me to scroll through all the posts to get to DOB or Carroll’s post to see if the referenced anything someone said that was actually interesting or productive. That’s all I’m saying. People need to chill out and be glad that the Braves actually spent money trying to improve the team with starting pitching and support them now while the bullpen and the offense tries to find their way. If you can’t do that and feel this need to vomit on the blog, then please go find something else to do with your life. You’re probably taking years off your life by watching the Braves anyway.
I have serious doubts about our offense. We are way too inconsistent, too aggressive and over eager. The only solid hitters on this team are Escobar (mostly) and Chipper and Mac. Other than that we got nothin’. Lowe didnt pitch that great again, but he kept us in the game. I guess we are trying to start another 1 run loss steak again. Thats 2 1 run games, and 2 1 run losses. Go Braves.
Ugh….well, as Skip used to say, “Stay tuned for Squirm.”
April 21st, 200912:18 am
Well It’s early, but If we keep Playing Half A..s Baseabll Like this (Crappy Blow-pen, Crappy Defense, Inept Fundamentals, and A Feast or Famine Offense) We are Gonna get our As.ess Handed to us each and every night by the Big Boyz (both New York teams, Boston, Chicago, etc) in the league…
I can’t even describe this team and how they’ve played over the last week….
Man This Team Sucks! Rite Now, Flat Out Embarassing!
April 21st, 200912:19 am
How do you say “This team sucks azz” in French?
i’m still waitin’ for my french fried taters
There is no reasoning with the peanut gallery. They know all…….
If we won 5-3, then Lowe pitched a good game. If we lose 3-2, Lowe wasn’t good enough.
The blog is a helluva lot less fun with all the village idiots onboard.
April 21st, 200912:20 am
Wayne in Utah….I hear it all the time from the Nats fans as well. I feel your pain
Wayne in Utah, president of the moral majority.
I would hate to upset his delicate sensibilites. Hey Wayne, you’re annoying. Go away.
April 21st, 200912:21 am
Completely agree Wayne.
Wayne in Utah
My thoughts exactly
Well, it’s been fun all…gotta go before the cpomputer melts. Night!
As Of Right Now I think Everyone Got blind and Sucked into the Optomism that we saw the Braves Come Out Clowning In S. Training and The First 6 Games…After that this Team is Just getting Clowned…
Does anyone else find it annoying when Boog says “he gobbles that up”.
Not a good game for the Braves
You know, until my life is more successful, I swear, I’m just going to root for whoever’s in first place. I have MLB audio. Whoever’s in first place to start the day, that’s my team for that day. If they lose, who cares? MY team is still in first the next day!
I’m a free agent fan, yeah, that’s it. I can’t take the losing anymore. I NEED a winning baseball team. It freaking feels great to win, if I can remember back that far.
I’ll come back and root for the Bravos when I have a degree and a wife and rooting for a losing team is only a teeny tiny part of my happiness. See you guys then….
(I’m kidding, of course. Maybe.)
your french translator
April 21st, 200912:22 am
Cette équipe de baisers fesses.
April 21st, 200912:23 am
Good night fellas! I have to get up in 5 hours to get to work…..the funny thing, is that I catch the train at Navy Yard….wonder if any fans will still be there!
April 21st, 200912:24 am
People really shouldn’t be mad at Diaz. He is what he has always been. Gave us a homer to tease us and will now follow it up with pathetic at bat after pathetic at bat.
We’ve seen this before so give him a break. As Wayne pointed out he was the offense tonight. He certainly wasn’t the reason we lost.
I love this team and think they will be ok, but I don’t think they are mentally tough at all.
Mitchell = President of the Village Idiots = Please go take a vacation!
I know, Wayne. I’m fully capable of throwing peanuts, but I want to throw them when it matters the most. That’s all I’m saying. Ain’t nothing wrong with getting royally pi$$ed the **** off when you blow games late in the season. It’s just too damn early right now to self-flagellate and self-immolate. Every game counts the same, but the timing does matter.
I survived the 80’s probably because there was no blog telling me how stupid I was for being a homer, or looking on the bright side.
Mitchell: I will when I am damned well ready, jerkweed!
April 21st, 200912:26 am
your french translator, oui, now I remember. Thank you.
No wait, I’ll go away. Be back tomorrow though more optimistic than I have any right to be and if we play like that again I’m going to bitch and complain just like tonight. I at least have a right to do that after all this incompetence.
Frank from KS
April 21st, 200912:27 am
I swear, some of you guys are friggin’ harlious.
This is stupid. I’m just being a bitch.
“It’s just too damn early right now to self-flagellate and self-immolate”-Chop Chop
I’m going to Google now. I hope one or both of those is as fun as they sound.
Can you imagine Chipper demanding an armed guard to walk him out to the bus. Probably a real good idea. If he went on the DL for getting mugged it would really look bad. better than being hurt by a bed though.
April 21st, 200912:28 am
Not sure what there is to be positive about tonight?
You are right about Diaz. He is a swinger. He’s probably going to hit closer to his 2006-2007 pace than he was last year before getting injured, but he will not walk much, or take too many pitches.
I hear you! Amen!
Here here! (is that the right word, Random???)
i’m optimistic. i believe that wayne is gonna fall into the latrine behind his snake pit.
I do wonder some times about TP as our hitting instructor, only because I think that alot of the offense issues we have seems to be mental. Our guys can hit, as we have seen them do, and quite well at times. But when chipper is out of the line up they seem to crumble. I mean yesterday we blew out the Pirates and had 11 runs off of 15 hits. Chipper accounted for 1 hit! Its not like he is tearing the cover off the ball. It seems that when we are in a close game situation especially if its low scoring, our offense presses too hard. They don’t take enough pitches. Yes these guys are professionals, and I am normally the last to blame a manager for a players production, but when it concerns what I feel to be more of a mental issue, some blame must go on the managers, in particular…TP. I have never heard of our guys praising TP for helping them etc…Maybe a different hitting instructor is in order. Don’t forget, we haven’t had this issue just this year, its been for a few years. Yes guys go through slumps, but our entire offense seems to go into slumps at the same time. It always seems to be all or nothing. Just my take on it. What do you all think?
April 21st, 200912:29 am
“…but I don’t think they are mentally tough at all.”
I hate to say it, because I’m beginning to sound like a cheap imitation of Coach and Robert. But mental toughness starts at the top and trickles down.
If this team is mentally weak, than it’s due to their leader not toughening them up.
I’m not sure I’d insult their mental state of mind. That’s rude. I prefer to just think of them as a collective group of not very good baseball players.
Good deal, Mitch. The sun will rise tomorrow and baseball will still be one of the gems of American society that everyone of any age can love and appreciate. And hopefully the Bravos will play better and we can all go to bed happy, but if not, at least we got to watch baseball:)
April 21st, 200912:30 am
Ross/Diaz/Lowe all got punked out by Brian Jordan. Maybe they should listen up, but they shouldn’t have to be, you know, being pro’s and all.
One more little rant…
The funny thing is that I’m not at all conservative in most things. This blog makes me want to be conservative and temper my anger/enthusiasm because the irrational nature of fanhood is starkly laid bare in type for all to see. I’ll admit that it almost kinda sucks to hold back, but I don’t want to be another idiot mouthing off after every damn pitch that doesn’t go the way the hometown team wants/needs it to. I can’t stand that kind of mindless sycophancy in most other walks of life, so why should I be a hypocrite and accept it here?
End of rant.
April 21st, 200912:32 am
Im not really sure hitting coaches actually do anything? If so…he should be fired. Someone posted the pitch counts for each team…the Nationals saw…60 more pitches? Hmm…seems like seeing more pitches…might help induce walks…get deeper into a weak pen…any of those sound good?
Chevy, that was a good one. Have the Braves ever been in a brawl. I could just see Chipper sneaking off to a Hooter’s during the fight. I bet most of his teammates would be looking to sucker punch him. Can you imagine having to be on the lookout for both teams sa a player?
April 21st, 200912:34 am
TNBrian, Think Brian Jordan will ever be ALLOWED to call out the Chosen One??
N8, all you have to do is look at the fire and attitude Cox had back in the 90’s. He’s mellowed out quite a bit and that could make your point. And by the way, the Braves don’t suck. Their hitting is very inconsistant and the pen looks, or should start to shape up.
158 pitches in 8 innings to 102 pitches in 9 innings…WOW!
April 21st, 200912:35 am
Chop Chop, holding back is definitely better. I never regret doing it. I often regret doing the other.
You know, in a year or two, with Zimmerman and Strasbourg topping their rotation, the Nats might be a good team, even a dangerous one.
They’re not now.
We should beat up on these guys, and yet we continue to do the same stupid things, like failing to take pitches late in the games when we’re down. And don’t get me started about the utter inability of this team to bunt. Bobby’s never emphasized that, so the only guys we’ve ever had that could do it were Glavine and Smoltz.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. One wonders how long our guys will continue to do the same thing without noticing this.
April 21st, 200912:36 am
I used the term “self-flagellate” to describe the actual flagellation of myself with a whip. I don’t mean it as self-criticism. It would be weird if we had fans blogging here who were severely criticizing themselves and setting themselves on fire because of this team.
I mean, we probably already do, but it’s just weird to picture it.
April 21st, 200912:37 am
Alexandria, to be honest, I don’t think Brian J. really gives a sh**! He and Gant have been calling out players for two years or more, and they still have jobs, so…
You know its bad when Tokyo Brave is being negative, lol.
April 21st, 200912:38 am
Joe Beimel is with the Nats now? Awesome. He’s from my town, I’d love to get more chances to see him pitch. He’s not terrible…maybe an option for the Braves some time down the line? He did have that incident when the Dodgers were in the playoffs a few years ago, though…so he might not fit in with Bobby and the Braves, who have had a pretty good reputation for staying out of trouble.
Bobby said he didn’t think that was interference on the Ross play. “Not to me, i didn’t think so. i think he got to the bag, he just got past it. And one of those plays, a judgement play. I think the umpire probably got it right.”
April 21st, 200912:39 am
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April 21st, 200912:41 am
Sorry, dont’ know why my computer posted a comment. Good night all. Talk to you tomorrow night.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
April 21st, 200912:43 am
We continue to take sucking to a whole new level
TnBrian, You have been here longer than me. Do you mean Jordan could criticize Chipper for being a docile feline and he wouldn’t get canned?? Do you really believe that?/ I don’t know. Alexandria is for where i live and not a name.
April 21st, 200912:44 am
lol, only Bobby could translate “he just flipped on his head and rolled over and then forgot who he was and got tagged out” into “he just got past it.”
April 21st, 200912:46 am
By the way there is no way they would let those ball girls remain out there that late. i just hope everyone makes it back okay. If not, I know a whole bunch of DC Lawyers who might want to take on a League for Reckless Endangerment when they knew primary means of transportation would be closed after engaging in a nearly puntitively long delay.
April 21st, 200912:47 am
Ross ran into the player= interference.
That Soriano is a BAMF.
Please Braves take some pitches. You dont have to swing at first pitch so ef n much. You dont see Larry Wayne doing that and if he does he usually gets a hit out of it.
Wren, PLEASE GET US A BAT. We need one( righty) to put in the four hole so bad. Then with that bat sandwiched between Larry and Bmac can do work.
Soriano is a BAMF, finally. Someone that acts like he is a pitcher with a tough persona and who doesn’t WALK IN RUNS.
April 21st, 200912:48 am
Let me clarify. Ross ran into the player that was not holding the ball.
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
We got beat, plain and simple. Rookie or no, the Braves had never seen Zimmerman pitch before.
After Manny Acta sacked his bullpen the Nationals were bound to play hard, and they did. Kudo’s to their manager for motivating the hell out of his players.
More importantly, when your top two hitters go 1 for 8 and the team has no speed at the top of the order with little ability to manufacture runs, 3-2 losses will happen.
April 21st, 200912:51 am
That’s a good point. Did you notice that most of the people mentally challenged enough to still be there were wearing Braves gear. Most of them probably Blog here. This is a fun Blog. I just discovered it. You guys really take this team seriously. A friend of mine who moved up here last year told me that all the pro teams in Atlanta sports history have only won one World Championship? Is that true? What are you Cubs fans? Get a grip. No, don’t get a grip. Keep on messaging.
April 21st, 200912:53 am
Texas Death match. Dukes–Soriano. We’ll show you the BAMF with room to spare.
We miss McCann greatly…and need a power bat for the 4 spot. Chipper is a 3 hitter…McCann is a 5 hitter. We don’t have a 4-hole hitter. Anderson. Kotchman…dont cut it…and Bobby obviously wont put KJ there.
April 21st, 200912:56 am
Here are the pitching match-ups for the week…interesting stuff….
April 21st, 200912:57 am
I just Googled that stuff. Falcons-NO Super Bowl Championships. Hawks-No NBA Championships. Thrashers and Flames No Stanley Cup Championships. Atlanta Braves-One World Championship. Where is Uncle Jed to give us a “pitiful”?
April 21st, 200912:59 am
I want Chipper charging the mound. Hopefully right after talking some crap to the Nats bench. We’ll show you a DL.
April 21st, 20091:01 am
This is, or has become, a very bad trend with the Braves and it really stems from not having a true leadoff hitter. They cannot manufacture squat against a decent pitcher, unless, like tonight, the guy makes a huge mistake and we get a flukey HR. Manufacturing runs is how this lineup is designed, but Bobby or whoever just refuses to get passed the fact that a 5-run homer is the way to go. I’m sick of it, and I know ya’ll are too, but something will surely get fixed this year…right??
elijah dukes is a scary man. Point well-taken. I dont think anyone wants a piece of dukes, not even chuck norris or tim tebow.
Goodnite all. Happy blogging.
April 21st, 20091:02 am
If the other team’s pitcher is throwing a lot of strikes, it can be harder to “take” a lot of pitches. By doing so, you put yourself in a hole very quickly.
Now, I haven’t ran the numbers (and I won’t), but I do believe we swing first and ask questions later more often than not. That can hurt you sometimes. BUT, when we are kicking the other guys butt, I don’t hear cries for “take a few pitches”.
Just a few thoughts.
I came out fairly clean, didn’t take long to dry off either. hhhnnnnmmmmhnnmmm
April 21st, 20091:07 am
What I think you fail to realize is that it really doesn’t matter how “sick” we get of “it”. FW and BC have built this team well to be somewhat competitive this year, and progressively so in the next couple of years to come (Hanson, Freeman Heyward, etc).
While they will say they are playing to win this year, if they truly were playing to win this year, Manny Ramirez would be our LF’er. They are playing to have a possible shot, if a lot of things work out.
Sometimes you just gotta let your strengths develop. I suspect that a true leadoff hitter is on the list of things to get/develop for 2010 and 2011. Just my guess.
mark my words
another season of mediocrity ensues…
April 21st, 20091:10 am
Wayne, you seem pretty intelligent, so I’ll ask you… how about KJ/Schafer at the top of the lineup? Bobby will keeping putting Yunel there unless he reads my comment(kidding), but if Schafer has the speed and can bunt, why not.
Braves may cause ulcerative colitis.
April 21st, 20091:12 am
well since I don’t feel like doing work I will give a minors update:
Carroll said it but Gwinnett won 5-2 Medlen had 5IP 5H 2ER 6K 0BB
Mississippi won 4-1; Gorky 3-4 with a triple(hitting .358), Campbell went 3-4 with a double(hitting .370)
Myrtle Beach wow umm they lost 16-3; Heyward 1-4 with rbi and outfield assist, Freddie 1-3 with double, Locke had 3.1IP 9H 6ER 4BB 2K
Rome won 3-2
I think the problem is Schafer…isnt hitting like a leadoff guy yet. He is swinging for the fences too much. Maybe with some guidance…and a shift to the 1 or 2 spot…he might become more of a speedy hitter than a power guy.
April 21st, 20091:13 am
Other than Chipper and McCann, our team is filled with streaky hitters. They hit a lot of line drives and groundballs. They hit for good averages, but they can start slumping at any time. They can draw walks, but they’re not necessarily patient hitters. They can be pesky, but they like to swing early in counts. They don’t have much speed (mainly stolen base ability) on the basepaths.
It’s hard to put together a consistent lineup with this group of guys. Some guys don’t fit well in their roles. We have a lot of #2 and #6 hitters. (Chipper’s a #3 and McCann, in my opinion, is a #5. I don’t have Schafer pegged anywhere yet because he hasn’t been around long enough for me to form a firm opinion.)
You live and die by the long ball Bobby Cox and when this lineup we will die more often than live. I think its insane how everyone thought Wren saved the day with his last second (save his job) signings. Did he address our suck bullpen? NO! Did he address no power in the order again? NO!
The only thing good from us stinking again this season will hopefully be the end of Bobby Ball in Atlanta. Take Wren with you!!!!
April 21st, 20091:14 am
Tn Brian, If Wayne was Intelligent would he be crazy like you and me discussing two bad baseball teams at 1:13 EST and 1:13 Rocky Mountain Time?
April 21st, 20091:15 am
It’s sad when we the people care about the Gwinnett Braves more than their Atlanta brethren
If Schafer has a decent average, cuts down on the strikeouts, and has a decent OBP, I suspect that mid season, you might see him in the leadoff spot. Maybe sooner, depending on his development. I do think that they are probably wise to bring him along slowly to start.
I suspect KJ will be either traded, or become more of a utility guy in another year or two. Too streaky for leadoff. I think as much as we like him, he might could become a Mark DeRosa type; just my guess.
Right now, JS K’s too much. I think they are thinking of him or Gorkys H as potential leadoff hitters, or maybe getting one via trade.
JS might eventually be a good 3 or 5 hitter???
Gotta run. Early day tomorrow. I will look for your response.
I just get a little tired of the negativity, as I lived through the 60’s through now. Been there, done that, got the T Shirt.
Sorry. I meant 11:13 Rocky Mountain Time.
I would hate to upset his delicate sensibilites. Hey Wayne, you’re annoying. Go away. —MITCHELL
you’re more annoying. go away yourself. Isn’t it way past your bedtime anyway? Mommy and daddy know you are sneaking out to the ‘puter this late?
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