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Frankie Knuckles

April 19th, 2009
4:21 pm

Parr is awesome

Eric B

April 19th, 2009
4:21 pm

This pen is awful…

Skip Remembered

April 19th, 2009
4:23 pm

Braves win, Braves win, Braves win!

I think we have seen this movie before. Big lead, load the baes and then HPB to score a run and blow the shutout. Decent rebound effort there by Parr for 2/3s IP (2 pitches, 2 outs), then the movie starts: load bases, HBP, before closing it out.

Wonder when the last time he pitched on consecutive days, since he normally starts. That’ll do, pig.

Larry Wayne

April 19th, 2009
4:24 pm

Game over. 11-1 Braves after shallow fly by Morgan to left field.

7

April 19th, 2009
4:24 pm

Thanks Nolie. Mac would be the one I believe. Always value your opinion. Braves Win.

nolie

April 19th, 2009
4:26 pm

I’ve got to question NOT leaving Vazquez in for an inning. It’s not like there’s an off day tomorrow and the pen needs work. (N8)

I’m sorry but with an 11 run lead i have to disagree with you. Save some pitches for another more important time. Besides Bobby is probably hoping that the erxcitement of the blowout will increase confidence and give some BP guys the chance to bounce back and feel better. Don’y know if that will work, but certainly Moylan could use that lift, Bennett? who knows?
Ok Bennett got some sunshine too.
Parr, well I have little hope that he will ever be much at all in the bigs so no big deal. Spread the feel good around when you have the chance IMO.

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
4:27 pm

98 pitches-71 strikes in 6 IP for Vazquez.

Nice win to end a five-game losing streak. And, hey, isn’t this how losing streaks usually end?

Frankie Knuckles

April 19th, 2009
4:27 pm

Honk ..if you wanted that shutout.

Hack

April 19th, 2009
4:29 pm

You geniuses don’t know wtf you’re talking about!

7

April 19th, 2009
4:31 pm

spotts- Thats cool, sorry man.

N8

April 19th, 2009
4:31 pm

I got you nolie, that’s why I clarified it for you. If Garret was healthy, I really don’t have a problem with Garret being on this team.

At the dollar amount we got him for, he’s a decent hitter. Hits righties well, hits lefties well. Has a little pop.

But he’s never gonna be confused with Andruw Jones in the OF.

I just hate seeing guys that are “hurting” hurting the team, by thinking they should play.

Chipper is different though, IMO. He opened that can of woopazz on himself, when he called out JD Drew a few years back, about playing through nagging injuries. When you have a guy like Chipper that when is only at 70 percent, but is STILL that much better than the next guy, he’s gotta play.

But at this point I don’t think that 70 percent of Garret Anderson is better than Brandon Jones.

To me, it’s not a clear cut thing that ALL players should play through injury. It’s relative to WHO that player is (along with who the backup is).

For instance, with Tommy Hanson waiting in the wings. If (when) Glavine comes back, if he’s NOT 100 percent, then it would be silly to try and say that a 43 year old Glavine at anything less than 100 percent is better than a young (healthy) Tommy Hanson. Experience will only take you so far, if the body can’t do it anymore.

The other thing that I try and take into consideration when judging if a guy should keep playing through injury, is if playing on it can make it worse. If that is the case and there is a lot of season left, then it is VERY understandable for the guy to sit a while.

Braves73

April 19th, 2009
4:31 pm

Larry Wayne, or should we call you HOMER. “The irrationality of fans is unreal”. I have been a life-long Braves fan, but not a HOMER. I consider the facts of “our” team as it stands today, and not in our run of division championships. If you can objectively say that Bobby is and has been a great tactical manager (decisions/bull-pen decisions) then your judgement is clouded. He is a great player(s) manager, just not very good at making late game decisions. Please provide more than “The irrationality of fans is unreal”.

Oh and by the way, thanks for the in game updates…not as if the whole world doesn’t have a TV, internet or some form of finding that info. on their on…TRULY BRILLIANT!

Chop It Up All-star

April 19th, 2009
4:33 pm

Javy V may be the ace of this staff. He’s looked really good so far this year, and he is a strikeout pitcher; currently second in the league, if not tied for first with Johan Santana.

Slingblade

April 19th, 2009
4:33 pm

I like me some mustard on my french fried ‘taters . . . uuuummmmmmmhhhhhmmmmmm! Corky, my brother, will you make me some ‘em biscuits?

spotts

April 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

Who’s the manager for SS Bobby Cox? How does Brian Jordan still have a job there despite the fact that he CAN’T TALK??

N8

April 19th, 2009
4:34 pm

nolie, my comment about Vazquez not staying in, was more toungue in cheek sarcasm than anything.

Of course in a perfect world, you want you mop-up guys to take over a game like this. But after that fiasco in Philly, I don’t trust ANY of them.

And besides, you didn’t think an 11-1 victory (with a VERY solid performance by Vazquez), would stop my bitching and moaning about Vazquez being traded for to eat innings, did you? LOL!

cabravesfan

April 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

Wow- looks like they are expecting some nasty weather in DC tomorrow…hope it holds off and they can get the game in

nolie

April 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

By the way I Blogged on here all the time last year and I forgot how, but how do you “bold” type..lol..it’s been long. (Bravo22)

it’s completely different on this new system

(strong)Words to be bolded(/strong)

now replace the parentheses with greater than & less than signs. the formating should disappear leaving bolded text. As you might have noticed there is a lot less bolding anymore since it takes 17 extra keystrokes.

Frankie Knuckles

April 19th, 2009
4:36 pm

Slingblade – huh?

spotts

April 19th, 2009
4:37 pm

He’s just so awkward and unnatural behind the camera. Kind of like that “Boom Goes the Dynamite” kid

Random

April 19th, 2009
4:37 pm

Looks like we got ourselves a song from
macfleetwood (11:56 am)

. . . . . . . Untitled . . . . . . .

I Know It’s Early In The Season..BUT..The Braves Have Proven That They Are A .500

Club At Best! Shoddy Pitching,Shoddy Hitting, Shoddy Fielding!!

Don’t Know Why We Can’t Take A “Clue” From The Fla. Marlins…They Have Won MORE

Pennants Than The Braves, Won As Many If Not MORE Games In The Last 5 Years..Have

MUCH Less Payroll AND Know How The Game Is Suppose To Be Played!

As Long As Bobby Cox Is HERE..Don’t Expect Much From The Braves..The Game Has

Passed Him By! The Brave’s Seem To Be A Place Where A Player, In The Twilight Of His

Career, OR..Coming Off Major Career Ending Surgery, Can Find A Home!!

And he calls himself a poet? That thing don’t rhyme OR scan.

And as we shall see, it makes little sense either.

“I Know It’s Early In The Season..BUT..The Braves Have Proven That They Are A .500 Club At Best!”

And here the poet himself proves that he indeed does NOT know that “It’s Early In The Season” — or was he perhaps just being (oxy)moronic?

“The Fla. Marlins…They Have Won MORE Pennants Than The Braves”

The Marlins have won two NL pennants. The Atlanta Braves have won five.

“The Fla. Marlins…They Have Won . . . As Many If Not MORE Games In The Last 5 Years”

Since the beginning of the 2004 season, the Marlins have won 399 games. Since the beginning of the 2004 season, the Braves have won 421 games.

The balance of his “poem” seems to be an attempt at “stream of consciousness”, but is more akin to a diarrhetic discharge.

Overall grade — D minus: no rhyme or rhythm, no rhyme or reason – shoddy structure, shoddy sound, shoddy sense.

(2 points for capitalization).

nolie

April 19th, 2009
4:38 pm

Parr is awesome (Frankie K)

well at least he isn’t someone that anyone is really counting on. Granted that a shutout would have been nice but if somebody had to goof up I’m glad it was him.

rob from sc

April 19th, 2009
4:39 pm

DOB

How worried do we need to be about Brian McCann.

Frankie Knuckles

April 19th, 2009
4:40 pm

Who else was hoping Logan Schafer wouldn’t K today? Still, liked the work today. Watch out MLB when he gets the swing of things.

PWHjort

April 19th, 2009
4:40 pm

Great post, Random.

northbeach Scott

April 19th, 2009
4:40 pm

N8 Hope this is an opportunity to DL Garret and bring up Brandon Jones for a look in DC this week. Like to see him agains RHP Jordan Zimmerman & Martis. With so many injuries the Braves are a bit light on the bench.

Garret looks like a statue out in LF. No wonder so many AL fans were surprised that he signed for an NL team.

Frankie Knuckles

April 19th, 2009
4:41 pm

nolie – I agree..

Random

April 19th, 2009
4:45 pm

PWHjort — Thanks.

N8

April 19th, 2009
4:46 pm

Braves73, your 4:31 was brilliant. Perfectly stated. Goes along with what I was saying yesterday.

As fans (of the sitcom variet as my buddy Lew would say), sports are VERY MUCH the world of what have you done for me lately. Which is why I don’t give a ratz azz what Bobby did for the Braves in 1993. What has he done the past three years?

I’ve stated it before, Tom Landry was (and still is) a LEGENDARY coach in Dallas.

From 1966-1985, Landry did not have a team finish below .500. Leading the Cowboys to a 208-79 record during that stretch (missing the playoffs in only 1974). He got them to the SB 5 times, and won 2 of them. However, from 86-88 his teams went 17-30, missing the playoffs all three years (sound familiar?).

Jerry Jones bought the team and hired his buddy Jimmy Johnson to be HC, to the outrage of the Cowboys fan base.

I wonder how that all worked out for the Cowboys? I didn’t hear much about them in the 90’s.

It’s not about disrespecting what Bobby has done in the past. As fans, it is our right to argue with each other about Bobby’s value and HOF status. The facts are there. His record speaks for itself, regardless of whether you like him or not.

But bottom line, is that he hasn’t got it done 3 years running. Even the legends have to call it quits sometimes. If they can’t make that decision for themselves, it should be made for them.

Many have stated that if LM would can Bobby (or ask for him to step down), it would show the fan base disrespect for a very respected man. As a fan, I think that it would show me that as owners they are SERIOUS about winning, and demand that somebody be held accountable for the mediocre baseball this team has played for 3+ years.

Down with Gnats

April 19th, 2009
4:47 pm

Marlins tied it, runner of second with no one out.

The Nationals are so totally worthless. They’ve led and blown every game against the Marlins.

Ambiguous

April 19th, 2009
4:51 pm

Good game by the Braves today. Nice to see a rebound win after two bad losses in Pitt. Need to take the series against those pesky Nats!

jbutler

April 19th, 2009
4:55 pm

N8 – here in Denver our beloved Broncos finally showed Mike Shanahan the door. What’s happened since then, is for a different day… But – what become obvious is that his coaching/management style had gone stale and needed to go. He won 2 Super Bowls here and could basically write his ticket at the time – but the past 3-4 years here showed the owner that past success shouldn’t dictate present circumstances.

Braves73

April 19th, 2009
4:56 pm

N8 – back at you…very well put! Your correlation between the Braves and the Cowboys is spot on. We all have the right to respectfully have our own views and thoughts on the performance of Bobby Cox. He has for years been a great manager, but under a different structure (meaning payroll/players). As currently situated (in today’s market), Bobby is not the right manager to take this team to the next level. I mean look at Joe Torre, great manager, won 5 world series, but his message/voice was not in tune with his team and management structure. It’s time to wish Bobby the very best and start a new chapter in Braves history.

Marlin Perkins

April 19th, 2009
4:59 pm

Fish: 7 – 4!

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
5:00 pm

Cody Ross with a three-run double to put the Marlins up, 7-4.

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
5:00 pm

It’s time to wish Bobby the very best and start a new chapter in Braves history. (Braves 73)

ok who do we replace him with and why that manager?

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
5:03 pm

Ross was hitting .091, 0 HR and 0 RBI coming into the Braves series. After that three-run double, he’s up to .256 with 3 HR and 11 RBI. It doesn’t take long to get right this early in the season.

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
5:10 pm

I’m all for giving Bobby his gold watch. I agree that he has slipped a bit. But who is available that would be a meaningful upgrade? I can’t think of anybody out there that I think is worth hiring who isn’t already tied up.I’m certainly not interested in Yost. Like nolie said he is Bobby with less clubhouse control.So what do we do, hire somebody with no major league managing experience? Obviously everybody has to start somewhere at some time but rookie managers are usually a liability for several years. Who has some realistic suggestions?

irrational exuberance

April 19th, 2009
5:13 pm

The Marlins pull out another come-from-behind victory.

That’s actually great news for the Braves. The Marlins are using up all their luck early in the season when the games don’t count as much. Go Braves!

Steve from OH

April 19th, 2009
5:14 pm

I can’t think of anybody out there that I think is worth hiring who isn’t already tied up.I’m certainly not interested in Yost. Like nolie said he is Bobby with less clubhouse control.So what do we do, hire somebody with no major league managing experience? Obviously everybody has to start somewhere at some time but rookie managers are usually a liability for several years. Who has some realistic suggestions?

Keep Bobby? Sorry, based on that post you made it too easy for me =). But seriously, I’m not for letting Bobby go. He’s earned the right to go out on his own terms, whether you like him or not. And there’s really no guarantee he’ll come back in 2010, and there is certainly no way or reason to fire him midseason. I still think he’s a good skipper. What has he done this season that has been so awful?

Chop It Up All-star

April 19th, 2009
5:14 pm

The Marlins are on pace to win 161 games!! I love the Braves, but as a fan of baseball, I love the way Marlins are playing right now. Aggressive on the bases, timely hitting and solid pitching. Freddi Gonzalez is doing a good job with that young team.

jbutler

April 19th, 2009
5:16 pm

Moby – Maybe baseball will trend the way the NFL has..and go with the “hot assistant coach” to replace a manager like Bobby. Any of the managers in the minors worth promoting? A bench coach from another team? The same old names don’t necessarily mean success – Look at Joe Girardi his year down in FL.

jonatuga

April 19th, 2009
5:17 pm

Not for firing Bobby, but if he left after this year, I’d take Freddi with open arms.

brent a.

April 19th, 2009
5:19 pm

I knew that I could come here and quickly find N8’s comments regarding Vazquez only going 6 :) .

On to DC.

Go Braves!

Mekons

April 19th, 2009
5:20 pm

Random, if you keep posting facts rather than opinions, you will no longer be welcome here. It is far more satisfying to make up stats and call for Bobby to be fired.

Lou Vales

April 19th, 2009
5:30 pm

You’re right. The wins in April don’t count as much because “It’s a marathon” and the losses in September don’t count as much because “It’s a marathon”.

As far as the silly stuff about most wins since 2004–Who cares?? The ONLY thing that counts in those big old trophies that Selig hands out. Since 1966:

Florida Marlins–2 Big Old Trophies

Atlanta Braves–1 Big Old Trophy

Cubs, Brewers, Mariners, Astros, Giants, Rays, Expos/Nats, Rangers—-0!!!!!!!!!!! Big Old Trophies.

David O'Brien

April 19th, 2009
5:31 pm

Before the game, Terry Pendleton told Jair Jurrjens and Francoeur that he was going to shave their heads if the Braves didn’t score any runs Sunday. So yes, the Braves were still having some fun despite the recent misery.

bravos2249

April 19th, 2009
5:32 pm

DOB

lol I beat Jair was happy

brewdawg

April 19th, 2009
5:33 pm

You can btch and moan about BC as much as you want, but it’s not going to make any difference. He will manage the Braves as long as he wants (which is probably not much longer). But by all means, work yourselves into a frenzy.

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
5:45 pm

Here’s a little post about Bobby Cox…

If we believe that Bobby has “earned the right to go out on his own terms,” then we have no right to complain if the team’s lineup and bullpen is allowed to struggle for weeks on end because the skipper expects the bad luck to even out. Bobby is stubborn. As annoying as Robert’s posts about “Donk” can be, he’s right about the stubbornness. It was easy when Bobby had Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz in his rotation. It was easy when Bobby had players like Justice, Gant, Pendleton, Lopez, Galarraga, McGriff, Klesko, Andruw, Furcal, Grissom, Sheffield, Drew, Jordan and Chipper out in the field. While I hope that Bobby’s customary patience pays off this season, I don’t think the kind of talent this team has will allow him to wait for things to just straighten themselves out.

As one may surmise, I don’t believe any manager or coach should be allowed to go out “on his own terms.” I mean, is Bobby Cox the reason one cheers for the Braves? The reason I cheer for the Braves is that I’m from Georgia and cheer for all the Atlanta pro teams. I don’t cheer for the team because of a player or a manager or past success. I want the team to be the best that it can be. I want a manager who’s willing to tinker with the club in order to find the best combinations possible. Most of all, I want the team to win. If Bobby can’t make the team win, what is he bringing to the club? That question has been asked of countless managers over the years. It doesn’t matter what the guy’s track record is. If he can’t get the most (or close to the most) out of his club and win, should he be allowed to continue managing?

I do believe that it is too early (during this particular season, at least) to go nuts about stuff like this, but we’ve been batting this question around ever since I started coming to this blog. That was back in 2005, I believe. I’m sure it was going on before I got here. My brother and I used to ask this question of each other (I’m sure we weren’t the only ones) back in the late ’90s. The difference then is that we were wondering why Bobby didn’t shake things up in the postseason. We didn’t have to worry about the regular season.

Feel free to whine if you must ;)

Hack

April 19th, 2009
5:51 pm

Well said Brewdawg! These blogging people with their infinite baseball knowledge crack me up.

I think some of you here actually believe that Frank Wren or Bobby Cox or some other Braves official may be reading the blog, and perhaps they’ll get the message that you know just a bit more than they do!

You people are crazy!!

Hack

April 19th, 2009
5:52 pm

Hack

April 19th, 2009
5:55 pm

Did I say you’re all C-R-A-Z-Y ???

Except for you DOB, at least you’re collecting a paycheck!

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 19th, 2009
5:57 pm

I guess we should have seen this coming. All that pent up frustration in the clubhouse was bound to explode and it did, on the field. Good game fella’s, now you get to beat on the lowly Nationals.

O’Brien, you addressed a weakness on the bench which wasn’t really apparent until Schafer went into his tailspin. Infante would be out there in CF except for having to back up at SS due to Escobar’s injury.

In past years the Braves always had two regular outfielders who could man CF. Example:

2008 Kotsay, J. Anderson.

2007 A.J., Langerhans

2006 A.J., Langerhans

This is not the case as of today. Infante is effectively having to covering SS, 3B and CF. Diaz and G.Anderson are rooted in LF, Francoeur in RF, Schafer is the only outfielder capable of playing all three spots.

This why I wanted both Schafer and Josh Anderson. I think Frank Wren has realized his mistake and yes, signing G.Anderson was an error on the part of our GM. We cannot have two injury prone veterans, one is enough. O yea, Greg Norton is 0 for everything. Jo-Jo Reyes instead of Tommy Hanson?

My beef is obvious. I’m not even remotely happy with the make up of this 25 man roster. But we did beat the snot out of the Pirates so it’s all good at the moment. The future, not so much.

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
5:57 pm

By the way, if any of you think I’m putting Bobby down by talking about how easy it was to win with all those players, I’m sure Bobby would tell you the same thing. He did a great job of juggling the egos of all those talented players. Bobby has always been a great manager of people. He seems like the kind of guy that any of us, if we had any baseball talent, would love to play for. He’d be a great boss to work for.

Hack

April 19th, 2009
6:01 pm

If somehow the Braves turned around this year and won the World Series, you people would still find something to bitch about!! I’m beginning to believe that’s the meaning of blog: bitch!

Smyrna Jim

April 19th, 2009
6:04 pm

I guess one of the messages I get from a previous post is that any manager who does not reach the playoff three years in a row should be fired (and, I would hope, not rehired in the usual manager-recycling). At that rate, it won’t take to long to reach all of that untapped talent that the morons who run MLB have totally ignored.

Smyrna Jim

April 19th, 2009
6:06 pm

BTW, The Natural on TCM right now.

Shamus Thacker

April 19th, 2009
6:07 pm

We’ll be screaming World Series again after the Nats series. lol

Then we have to play somebody else.

mbatl

April 19th, 2009
6:11 pm

If I wanted to complain (and I really would rather not), I’d look much more at the GM than at the manager. Did JS do a good job in his last few years here? Has Wren put the right players on the field?

Cox may be up or down a couple of games over the last 2 years, in terms of in-game strategy. The bigger point is, do we have the talent to win?

Shamus Thacker

April 19th, 2009
6:12 pm

That’s “Blitch” Hack…

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 19th, 2009
6:13 pm

Hack, we have the right to bitch.

Fifteen post season teams, one WS.

Bobby Cox has lost the most post season games in ML history (66-66).

He is 1-4 in WS contests.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BITCH. Got it?

bravos2249

April 19th, 2009
6:14 pm

Are the 2009 Marlins the 1995 Braves…sans the some aspects….they have come from behind a lot and didn’t the ‘95 team do that?

stynes

April 19th, 2009
6:15 pm

Almost as good to see the W today was to see the bullpen pitch well. Moylan and Bennett both had good innings. Parr gave up the shutout but it wasn’t that big a deal. Moylan and Bennett’s performance far overshadowed that.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 19th, 2009
6:17 pm

More BITCHIN,

The Marlins have swept the Nationals…… twice.

I expect my Braves to do no less.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 19th, 2009
6:19 pm

So, the hack is a sexist pig. I’m not surprised.

OINK, OINK, OINK

N Nine

April 19th, 2009
6:23 pm

I expect my Braves to do no less

i expect something a bit more realistic, like 2 of 3. I don’t see the Pen holding all three..

jbutler

April 19th, 2009
6:24 pm

Hack…lovely contributions. Guess your name/grammar say it all.

Hack

April 19th, 2009
6:24 pm

Sexist, Racist, Bigot, and I hate little dogs too!!

spotts

April 19th, 2009
6:26 pm

Did we lend the Rockies a couple of relievers? Their bullpen is pitching like Blaine Boyer just held a clinic.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 19th, 2009
6:30 pm

Hack, just let it all out. You will feel better, I promise.

jbutler

April 19th, 2009
6:32 pm

Spotts…low blow. Not even the Rox bloated BP has an ERA as higher as former Brave Boyer. But it would be kind of fun to see what he would do as a FT Rockie. :)

Steve from OH

April 19th, 2009
6:33 pm

Chop Chop, that’s fine if you think that, but remember that I’m not doing any whining and complaining about anything right now…as far as stubborness goes, I think that Bobby/Frank have the team on a bit shorter of a leash this season, as Boyer is already gone 10 games into the season. After that disastrous 1st outing at Philly he was the last man out of the ‘pen it seemed like. I agree at times he is a bit stubborn, but his methods have worked for him for a long time. Why should he change now because a group of bloggers with a collective zero days of ML experience tell him to? As for the “too laid back,” I get the feeling that he’s a little tougher behind closed doors than many here think he is. He doesn’t seem like a guy I’d want to cross. And I especially like the fact that he doesn’t call out his players in public. But that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t do it in private.

As for this season, I don’t think any of the losses are on him. Either the entire bullpen blows up or nobody hits. Hardly anything a manager can quickly remedy via a smart substitution.

spotts

April 19th, 2009
6:36 pm

I was just watching their game on gametracker. Dodgers scored 7 runs in an inning off the Rockies pen

Steve from OH

April 19th, 2009
6:37 pm

And I realize that you didn’t say a lot of those things in your post, mine was a general response.

Coach, if you have a problem with the roster, that’s on Wren (like you finally noted today), not Bobby. Wren has made some moves that I don’t agree with (GA comes to mind), but overall I think he’s done a nice job, and none of his moves look to seriously hamstring the club in the future. He’s definitely improved this club without doing any damage to the farm. So even if we don’t win right now, as many knee-jerk bloggers want us to, he’s set us up to be competitive for years to come. Can’t ask much more than that from a GM., I think.

dogsbrekky

April 19th, 2009
6:41 pm

Skip Remembered “That’ll do pig”……… I chortled, it is what I say to my border collie once in a while !

We won, that is good, no reason to panic…….. got rid of the biggest problem, now if Parr and JoJO can clam down we may be okay

DiamondbackMac

April 19th, 2009
6:41 pm

nolie

As you might have noticed there is a lot less bolding anymore since it takes 17 extra keystrokes.

It’s not so bad if you copy the bolding command the first time you use it each day then paste it when needed and insert whatever you need bolded.

Tomas

April 19th, 2009
6:42 pm

Tomorrow its Derek Lowe vs Jordan Zimmerman. Zimmerman sounds like the real deal, I hope Chipper and Escobar are back in the lineup.

spotts

April 19th, 2009
6:45 pm

Oh man…Boyer in Coors? His ERA would be in the thousands. Like the Mendoza for hitters, they’d have to name that the “Boyer Line.”

DiamondbackMac

April 19th, 2009
6:46 pm

Smyrna Jim

At that rate, it won’t take to long to reach all of that untapped talent that the morons who run MLB have totally ignored.

You’re absolutely correct. There must be at least 50 potential MLB managers on this blog alone. ;)

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
6:48 pm

What has he done this season that has been so awful?—Ohio Steve

don’t get me wrong. I’m not gung-ho to dump him, and I don’t mean in the middle of the season or right now. As I tried to portray in my post, I have very mixed feelings about it. I see what some are saying though I don’t agree that he is washed up, but I really fail to see who might be both available and better. It is so easy to say replace Cox, but a lot more difficult to figure out with whom, and the guy I originally asked the question of didn’t get back to me.
I like Fredi but he is tied up for another year or two and if they continue to do well they will probably try to extend him. It’s a poser to me. Maybe we should keep Bobby, and we probably will until he wants to leave. My cousin nolie thinks that we should like you do. I’m more ambivalent about the whole thing. But I definitely don’t want to see it done unless I really think highly of the replacement.
What to do, what to do?

Smyrna Jim

April 19th, 2009
6:52 pm

Diamondback Mac – thank you for picking up on my subtlety – usually it’s ignored (though, usually, for good reason).

SeaAtl

April 19th, 2009
6:53 pm

I haven’t been posting as much lately so forgive me if this HAS been a topic – but are we completely fed up with Garrett Anderson already….?! I am. I’ve been to two games so far (both losses to the Marlins) and the guy CANNOT catch a ball! It was embarrassing to watch. Misses spring training with a strained calf, now has a tight quad?! WTF?! Has the guy ever heard about stretching out, warming up, staying in shape? Shameful. I was somewhat happy the Braves signed him, but am already done with the loser. No wonder he was left unsigned for so long.

Chopper2Chipper

April 19th, 2009
6:57 pm

I’m not sure if this has been addressed, but I really expected that the Braves would wear patches to honor Skip. Naming the booth was great and all, but are there any plans for such a patch?

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
6:57 pm

Look at Joe Girardi his year down in FL. —jbutler

Joe did alright W-L wise I guess considering the team’s youth, but he has taken a lot of heat for overusing his young pitchers, which he did. At least possibly because he was a new MLB manager. I don’t really see him as a shining example and would not want him as our manager.
Internally I’m not thrilled with Pendleton and I don’t especially want our major league skipper crawling around on the ground and grenading the pitchers mound with rosin bags. I guess if they have anybody waiting in the wings who is available on tap it would be Terry. I’m just not sold on him as a leader.

Dixie Dawg

April 19th, 2009
6:58 pm

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
6:59 pm

I’d take Freddi with open arms.—jonatuga

that’s what I’m saying, he won’t be available

Supes

April 19th, 2009
6:59 pm

Nothing less than a sweep of the lowly NATS will be acceptable.

Getting Esco back will help, they can move Infante to LF or CF if needed.

Anderson is more injury prone than Chipper…and that’s pretty darn hard to do. Except he’s no Chipper when he’s healthy, which is why it’s so hard to tolerate him on this 2009 Braves Team. He just looks finished as an impact player of any kind. Should have probably found a DH job in the AL somewhere.

Starting rotation holding up good. Now if we can just shore up that pen and get some consistant offense going, still early in the season.

BTW…Jordan Schafer played well today. Hope he carries it over to the next series.

Apparently Zimmerman is going to pitch tomorrow, he feels like he can contribute more on the mound than 3B. They’ll play Adam Dunn at 3B:)

spotts

April 19th, 2009
6:59 pm

SeaAtl – I’m frustrated, but my goodness…not as much as you are. He’s aging so he’s going to tweak muscles. Plus his fielding track record is too good to make a snap decision based on two game.

Steve from OH

April 19th, 2009
7:01 pm

Moby, I’m not thrilled with Pendleton either but remeber that how good someone is as a hitting coach isn’t necessarily an accurate predictor or how good he will be as a manager. But still, I don’t think he’s at the top of my list.

I like Wellman as a manager choice, quite honestly. I got a laugh out of your post, but bloggers here are crying for intensity, and what is more intense than a rosin bag grenade? And his players seem to like him…

David O'Brien

April 19th, 2009
7:01 pm

Moby Grape, Marlins extended Fredi’s contract through 2011. Did it early this spring.

Moby Grape

April 19th, 2009
7:02 pm

He will manage the Braves as long as he wants (which is probably not much longer). But by all means, work yourselves into a frenzy.—brewdawg

I don’t see anybody getting into a frenzy about that today brew. we’re just talking options.perhaps for next season

spotts

April 19th, 2009
7:02 pm

“Nothing less than a sweep of the lowly NATS will be acceptable.” Supes

So what do you do if they don’t?

Cardog10

April 19th, 2009
7:03 pm

Is it me, or does Garrett Anderson just seem unhappy? I know he has a calf strain, but he shows NO enthusiasm. He doesn’t hustle (beyond the calf strain) and he just looks depressed. He missed Chipper’s high-five after he scored too… haven’t seen him smile once. Get pumped up GA!

The people who hated on Chipper on the previous blog shouldn’t consider themselves Braves fans. Chipper has earned AND deserves the respect of Atlanta after being here for 15 seasons. He isn’t 25, and he will get hurt… but I will take 120 games from Chipper. He is THAT productive. We have Prado and Infante to back him up, so stop bitching. He has a hurt hand he needs to let heal for a week and some of you have the nerve to question his 3-year deal? He just won a batting title for God’s sake… I don’t want him to EVER be on another team. Signing him for 3 years was great, I would be furious if we didn’t. He IS the Atlanta Braves. You fair-weathered fans can go cheer for David Wright and the Mutts or something… pathetic.

Steve from OH

April 19th, 2009
7:04 pm

Moby, maybe you’re not in a frenzy, but don’t speak so quickly for the others! But I appreciate the fact that I can have a reasonable convo with someone about this for once, you know, no caps, no I-T-O-L-D-Y-O-U-S-O, whatever.

Chop Chop

April 19th, 2009
7:10 pm

The retreads:

Randolph, Showalter, Valentine, Yost

Hires from within:

Pendleton (expressed the feelings of many Braves fans by walking off the field because of Marvin Freeman), Wellman (rosin bag hand grenades), Cadahia (big gut like Bobby; Bobby’s bestest pal)

Darkhorse candidates:

Rudy Jaramillo and Mike Maddux. Maybe Mike Maddux could bring along little brother as pitching coach?

nolie

April 19th, 2009
7:11 pm

usually it’s ignored (though, usually, for good reason) .(Smyrna Jim)

aw c’mon now Jim, you’re pretty cool

McFann :Ô:

April 19th, 2009
7:12 pm

Yabba-dabba-doo! Great win today! That oughta get ‘em going, don’t you think?

Thanks for the article on BMac, Chief! I hope we know what’s causing this tomorrow. Don’t know if I cann wait till Tuesday…

N8

April 19th, 2009
7:13 pm

Moby, well put at 7:02. I’m not worked up about it. I’m not demanding that Bobby go away… tomorrow.

I’m just saying what I’ve been saying for almost 3 years. It’s time to move on. I’m not sure who to get to replace him. At first I liked the idea of TP being the next manager. But I’m not all that impressed with him as a hitting coach (unless a certain manager has a standard order to keep the guys aggressive).

Fredi would be nice. But as DOB stated, they locked him up earlier and at this rate, he’s not going anywhere.

It’s not a dislike for Bobby. Really am indifferent on him. Just ready to move on. Same way I was with Marty Schottenhiemer and the Chiefs. Same way Yankees fans were with Torre. Same way Dodgers fans were with Lasorda.

At some point, change is neccesary.

I’ll ask this question: To all those claiming the world is going to end when Bobby steps down, are you going to bother tuning in when he does? I mean, why bother if nobody else can do the job he’s doing?

“But I appreciate the fact that I can have a reasonable convo with someone about this for once, you know, no caps….” Steve from OH

I purposely left out my all caps, just for you. :-)

jbutler

April 19th, 2009
7:16 pm

Randy Johnson had an awesome game…oh my gosh..I thought he’d been euthanized. How the heck old is HE?????

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