Game of inches? sure……….. you need luck but also lots of other thing……WILL, TALENT, DESIRE, HARD WORK, ETC. So dont give me that crap……..teams dont win 85 games or 90 because inches went their way……. most of the times……..you have to make your own luck, and braves are not.
TNJeff – Would never put too much praise on Blauser but liked the way he did the little things which he did by the way. Like I said Bobby didn’t have him there for offensive stats just to get Otis over. Regarding your statement on basestealing..
You folks never cease to amaze me with your fickle idiocy. On Monday, it was all roses, short of Blaine Boyer. 4 days later, the sky is not falling, it has already fell.
I am not encouraged myself. I wish we had added a more significant bat. We didn’t. I would have like to have seen Ohman back with a tomahawk across his chest. He turned down ALL the Braves offers, they went another direction.
I am even seeing some say we need a centerfielder! Are you kidding me?? I remember many saying that Schafer, even if he suffers at the plate, would be better than our other choices. Oh how quickly we forget.
I am ashamed of many of you. You don’t deserve to be called a Braves fan. Your a bunch of whining babies. Grow up. Remember the 80’s???
For those who have kept your sanity this week, I applaud you.
The Gym Dogs strapped on those leotards one last time for Suzanne Yoculan and won their fifth consecutive NCAA gymnastics championship. Congrats to the Gym Dogs.
wow, the Braves are sinking faster than a turd in a mud puddle. They are playing with absolutely no passion. They have hand-dog expressions on their faces.
Bobby is continuing to pick his nose, Liberty Media continues to run the team further into mediocrity, Chipper continues to be hurt. SOS, different day.
When are the Braves going to be like the Falcons and do something positive? This is pathetic and embarrassing. We need new owners and new personnel.
First things first Doc i’m talking about 1 game, the game we just played. Read Carefully now: I said some hit the ball hard and they hit it hard right at the pirate defenders. You’re going off on some tangent about something else when the only thing I said was exactly what we did. Not making excuses for Bobby or anyone else on that team. Don’t know what you’re reading into my post.
By the way, whether you believe it or not, luck is a big part of this game. Probably more than any other sport. It is truly the game of inches whether hitting or pitching. You don’t have to agree with it as I said in my earlier post. It’s my take. Take it or leave it.
Hey guys… where do you think ESPN has the Braves on their power ranking chart now? Hahahahah! Number one, please God what a joke. So, we get a guy on base to start the 8th, down by one, and Bobby decides to…let Diaz hit? We bunt to manufacture a run early in the game but in the 8th, with time dwindling, we swing away?
Bobby…please just retire you overestimated dinosaur.
Man, is it just me or does McDowell seem to get less with more? I know, I”m living in the past wishing for Leo. Of course, he’s up the road and unemployed, unless you consider having to spend 4 hours a day with the two biggest idiots in sports radio legitimate employment. Could be worse, he could have Shapiro on the show with the other nutbags.
I STILL–and you know I love them–don’t know if the Marlins pen can hold up(and this is after 15 2/3 innings of consecutive scoreless). But I’ll tell you something—NO!!, ask the guy who heads up this Blog who I have sufficiently pi$$ed off that he will show me that he is BOSS by not responding, to check the readily available studies that go back to 1900 and have been conducted by “marginal” schools like Harvard, Cal Poly and RPI , and see how many “marginal” teams have gone 9-1 over ANY 10 game span in a season.
Also, DON’T buy into the “It’s a marathon not a sprint” crowd. They are somewhat right, but check out the marathon runners that start losing ground after a mile or so. 5% of the MLB season is over. That is the equivalent of 1.3 miles in a marathon. Check out the marathon runners after 1.3 miles and see if you can start to form some conclusions about who WON’T win. You won’t know who WILL win, but the potential winner will not be showing flaws.
Wren would’ve been wiser to sign a Braden Looper for less than half of what Kawakami is making. Seriously, the man knew Chipper would get injured because the entire baseball world knows he’s about as injury prone as you can get, but he decided a P.R. move is the way to go instead.
You can never have enough pitching, but Wren didn’t get the memo that we already had enough of it after he would sign Lowe. Remember, Wren was already in heavy pursuit of Lowe when he/they decided to get Kawakami. A Nick Swisher would’ve certainly helped these last few games and I’m afraid that won’t be the last time I say that this year.
Lou Vale I thought youse was in the pen. Last I remember the heist in Indiana went awry and youse got nabbed. What you get five years. What are you doing out. Youse must got a good lawyer.
Lou Vales, I’m picturing you as a fat, hairy chested loser sitting with his cat in front of the computer with your thumb up your butt! You actually sat and looked up equivalents of marathons to a MLB season and how a person can compare the percents… HOLY SH**, I can’t believe I read that sh**!!
The saying goes, ” if you always do what you always did, you’ll always get what you always got.”
That speaks directly to the last 3 and beginning 4th year with the Braves.
I’ve heard managers defended when their job is on the line and they are losing because they didn’t have the personnel to win. Manny Acta is the latest on the hotseat who is getting defended by none other than the Braves broadcasters. Well they are right to a degree. Acta doesn’t have a cast of steller players in DC.
But what about the Braves? They hit like crazy and pitched well (with the exception of the single inning in Philly) for a week. The next week, they look like an A ball team. Are they as good as they were in Philly or are they as bad as they were in Atl?
In two of the past four preseasons, the Braves were picked, at least by some media folks, to win the NL East. Not only did they not win the East, they failed to make the playoffs the last three years and are beginning the 2009 season looking like last years team, a team that finished way under .500. The point I’m trying to make is this: According to some of the “experts,” the team has underachieved for at least the last 3 years.
If Bobby Cox name was Joe Blow, Braves manager who was hired 4 years ago, would he still have a job? With the exception of last years injury cluster team, many thought the teams of the last 3 years were built to win. One run loses over that period of time have been rampant. Offensive outbursts of 3 or 4 games happen then the team can’t buy a run for a week has also been an MO in recent years.
This team simply IS NOT prepared to compete. Mental toughness is not something that is expected from Atlanta players. If a player doesn’t have it, Bobby isn’t going to give it to him. Bobby wants to hug and coddle his players. He accepts too many mental mistakes and assumes words of encouragement will turn things around. Hows that been working out lately?
The Braves won during the Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz years. Those three guys were mentally tough. They didn’t learn that from Bobby. Those guys led by example displaying a will and desire to play and accept nothing less than 100 % from themselves. That is leading by example. In essence, Bobby had his in-house teachers and leaders who provided something he never has provided, a roadmap to succeed based on willing yourself not to fail.
Bobby is suited to be a mom who puts an icepack on juniors nose and gives him a hug after the bully just punched his nose. He should be telling junior to wipe his own nose, quit crying and learn to defend himself then go look for the bully and punch him in the nose before he punches you in the nose! But that isn’t going to happen with this manager.
TNJeff – NO hard feelings here my fellow Braves fan just wanted to support what I was saying. Numbers don’t always justify the situation but during those days I think it did, and yes to the other guy who said Otis ran on his own. Sure would be nice to have another like Otis that Bobby didn’t have to decide on when to steal and when not to.
I agree we need to get our act together early tomorrow with JoJo Reyes on the hill. I think the clubhouse understands the necessity of Chipper in this lineup but has to understand and they knew this coming in it’s not his team anymore. The other fellas have to step up and get things done, but that has been stated a hundred time fold over the last week.
Lets hope for another strong outing from our starters and maybe just maybe those hits will find the holes tomorrow and the days to come.
Actually Doc I would say that that Maddux is a great pitcher who got some good luck sometimes and I would say that Chipper is great hitter who has had some good luck.
I mean if Maddux makes the perfect pitch to a get a groundball in a DP situation and someone manages to dump it just behind Chipper or just out of reach of Escobar. Or if Chipper crushes a ball and the winds knocks it down and it becomes a flyout. I could give you hundreds of scenerios where luck, good or bad, comes in to play, but I won’t waste my time. I’ve made my point.
If the Braves have a small lead going in to the 5th inning, Reyes will fall apart. He has a mental thing about getting through the 5th inning and securing a win possibility.
I’m serious when I say the Braves need to see Smoltz’s sports psychologist.
TnBrian, I told ALL you nice people on Wednesday night where I would be yesterday and what I would be wearing and where I wouild be sitting–3rd Row behind the Marlins dugout and wearing a University of Utah sweater. I did that after making repeated overtures of commiseration for past “harsh” words I directed towards the Bravos. I even apologized for past comments. I thought some here MIGHT be able to get the day off and would like to chat baseball. But instead I get these silly comments about fantasies of what I look like.
By the way, do some of you—and this is not directed towards all–Phi Beta Kappas think it brain surgery to take 5% of 26??? No SAT exams in the future??
I hope there are MANY “hairy chested losers” on this board with the means to take numerous road trips to follow the Braves on road trips.
Ok we now see that the league has “caught up” with Diaz and Schafer. You will remember that Diaz didn’t hit last season when given the chance to be a full-time player. He has continued his weak hitting coming back this season. In both his last at bats yesterday and today he swung and missed 3 straight pitches that were not close to being strikes. Diaz is what he is; a 4th or 5th outfielder with no power.
Schafer belongs in AAA as he is totally over matched. His defense can’t keep him in the lineup. He won’t remind anyone of Andruw.
Chipper needs to be a true leader and play ball injury or not. Notice that Escobar follows his lead and sits out with a minor injury. Do you think that Ripken, Gehrig, Eddie Mathews, Aaron, Mays, Luis Aparico, or Ozzie Smith would have sit out with those “injuries” ?
Braves relievers introduce fresh strategy to late-inning, bases-loaded situations: the walk. Bobby Cox, ever old school, will have to think this through.
Lou Vales cornered the market on Don Knotts memorobilia and has made a fortune selling these items on eBay. Soon he will have enough money to buy a minor league baseball team. He has an eye on an A level team in South Dakota. He will also broadcast the games. Whenever someone on his team hits a homer he will shout in a high falsetto: Lulululululululululululululululu!
Just had an idea. When the Braves travel to New York we will be up there. I’ll hold a big sign for DOB at Citi Field at field level before the game.. He can come over, we’ll take a picture and maybe he can put to rest the “fat and bald” stuff. Old?? Yes!! Over 60!! BUT!!, having a real good life.
Is it just me or is radio guy Jim Powell the worst ever. That SOB sounds the same if someone is poping up in the first or hitting a grand slam in the ninth. His sorry azz needs to go.
Going all the way back to last season, the Braves have been EXTREMELY poor at the fundamentals of baseball, i.e., making all of the routine plays in the field, moving the runners up at the plate, and being smart on the basepaths.
When you have more talent than most/all of your opponents, you can sometimes get away with being fundamentally unsound, but it’s quite obvious that the Braves have mediocre talent, so they must do “the little things” on a nightly basis if they want to compete for a playoff berth.
The fact that the Braves have proven incapable of doing “the little things” reflects VERY poor on the ENTIRE ballclub – players, coaches, and manager included.
just pathetic and a joke… cant stand watching this team the last 3 years. no passion and no heart for the game.. bobby cox and frank wren have infected this whole team.. chipper being hurt every week.. and the offense what a joke.. congrats to you mr wren. what a lineup you have.. the torpedo has hit the ship and its sinking fast. lets go out and lose 5 straight tomm and then 6 and still no one will give a flip about this team. bobby sure doesnt.. mr pathetic GM doesnt care at all except the money hes getting for a awful and pathetic job he has done.. way to run this team into the ground cox and wren.. and liberty media. yea what owners we have.. they could care less as well. someone needs to clean house and tell cox to go golfing if he even can do that and tell wren to go to diserrted island and never touch a baseball team again… 10 games in and we are headed toward the basement… no offense and no bullpen. season well played..
I’ll just throw this out and feel free to shoot it down.
For years, especially when Pat Corrales was the bench coach, the Braves were lauded for their defensive positioning. That, combined with great pitchers like Maddux and Glavine, who knew how pitch to their defensive alignment, helped the Braves have great success.
Now, we have people talking about how the Braves hit the ball hard, but right at people.
Look, I’m looking for positives, too; but, have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the other team is aligning its defense and pitching to the Braves’ hitters in a manner that will get the Braves to hit it right at the defense?
Now, I understand that this can’t be an exact science, heck, if it were, teams could master it and not give up a run. We know that isn’t going to happen. Just like when a guy homers, his team gives him credit while the other team blames the pitcher. It’s an issue of perspective.
That said, when a team consistently comes up empty, leaves runners on base, etc., it may not simply be bad luck; but rather, it could be that they are not good, and the other team is successfully executing a plan to exploit the team’s weaknesses.
TnBrian(Or imposter), You are fixated with dreaming about men before you go to sleep. As they said on Seinfeld,”Not that there is anything wrong with that”,but have you consulted with anyone??
TWO!!! posts in ONE!!! minute about men and nocturnal thoughts.
It is funny reading you folks slam Bobby Cox. Cox knows more baseball than all of us on this blog put together. I followed the Braves religiously since 1966. Cox, serving as GM, built the core of the team that won 14 straight division titles. Cox and Bill Lucas, (most of you will not remember him), built the 1982 that Torre, (Torre’s own words), led to the Western Division title. Don’t start with your koolaid comments. Very few of you are even old enough to remember Jonestown and what the koolaid was used for.
Check your Atlanta Braves history, 1969 is the only time the Braves have gone to the postseason without Cox building/managing the team. Read Pete Van Wieren’s book on the history of the Braves. You may learn something and actually appreciate Cox, (but I doubt it). The rest of the baseball world praises Cox but y’all seem to think you know more than anyone actually working in baseball…
One last thing, JS and now Wren have depended upon Cox to cover up their mistakes. Now however, the mistakes are too great for any manager.
Oh, my silly humor and people that get offended from us bloggers…
Seriously Lou, who cares what I say as you should be riding high with your Marlins kicking butt right now, right? We’re all a little testy around here, at least I am, so a little ribbing to the competetion is ok in my book. I have so many nicknames like, “TinBrain”, “ignorant redneck”, and you can make up another if you’d like.
That Sheffield swing tonight, that looked like vintage Sheff, or very close. Bat speed didn’t look slowed down to me, certainly not to the degree that some scouts said this spring. But we’ll see. Maybe he was geeked up for one at-bat his 500th or whatever, or maybe it’s first time he’s been this healthy in a while, and he won’t be able to stay this healthy. But whatever, he crushed that pitch tonight, and that bat speed still looked pretty ferocious.
TnJeff, no interventions please. Don’t harm anyone or myself, just a normal ole’ Braves fan blogging away. This is actually good for the mind…you know, keeping your mind on something you love. Alright, i’ll stop.
DOB, you can ignore this or whatever, but I think I make a good point that Kawakami was really not neccessary as we already had plenty of pitching depth. Don’t you think that $7.3M would have been better spent on a bat through trade or FA? I’m positive that Wren had his mind set on getting Lowe when he signed Kawa., so that shoulda been it.
Anyone who is recommending Chipper Jones step up, be a leader and play, despite the debilitating pain in his hand rendering him nearly teary-eyed, are being unrealistic. Chipper is, bar none, the most naturally gifted hitter playing today, period. Some guys surpass him in a single category such as power or defense, but–and I don’t say this lightly–NO ONE matches his arsenal of weapons in terms of plate vision, discipline, stategy. He does not get cheated at the plate nor does he slump for extended periods of time. The guy doesn’t get enough credit for how smart he is in his approach.
It is extremely unfortunate how injury prone he is but anyone who thinks his absenteeism is somehow a reflection of his lack of fortitude or leadership skills are seriously misguided in their judgment. I think that any innuendos floating around on the blogosphere questioning his dedication are only a product of our frustration as Braves fans and how much we desperately miss his presence. Anyone inside the organization will tell you Hoss hates to lose games as much as we hate to lose him.
kind of funny the other night just after the braves announcers boast of how much Diaz’s defense has improved when oops there’s another one of those stupid errors on his part.
is extremely unfortunate how injury prone he is but anyone who thinks his absenteeism is somehow a reflection of his lack of fortitude or leadership (RayK)
yeah by the time he was Chipper’s current age Eddie Matthews had endured 5 straight mediocre seasons and was retired. Don’t pay too much attention to the Chipper or Cox haters, they are mostly just morons spewing their dissatisfaction with life in the only way they know how. Some need to make themselves feel big by maligning people respected by their peers. Sad, but common.
Have you talked to Jo Jo? What do you think about his chances tomorrow?
Thanks in advance….
(gotta get out to the NE sometime and check out a few of those parks, like PNC. I went to Yankee Stadium when my son was in 8th grade. Awesome experience!)
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But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
10:59 pm
Jake W.,
Game of inches? sure……….. you need luck but also lots of other thing……WILL, TALENT, DESIRE, HARD WORK, ETC. So dont give me that crap……..teams dont win 85 games or 90 because inches went their way……. most of the times……..you have to make your own luck, and braves are not.
driver8
April 17th, 2009
11:00 pm
TNJeff – Would never put too much praise on Blauser but liked the way he did the little things which he did by the way. Like I said Bobby didn’t have him there for offensive stats just to get Otis over. Regarding your statement on basestealing..
Please look this up as I just did.
1991 Otis Nixon 72 Steals
1992 Otis Nixon 42 Steals
1993 Otis Nixon 47 Steals
Would you want to take that last statement back? We once did run and speed was a huge part on those earlier teams.
Wayne in Utah
April 17th, 2009
11:01 pm
You folks never cease to amaze me with your fickle idiocy. On Monday, it was all roses, short of Blaine Boyer. 4 days later, the sky is not falling, it has already fell.
I am not encouraged myself. I wish we had added a more significant bat. We didn’t. I would have like to have seen Ohman back with a tomahawk across his chest. He turned down ALL the Braves offers, they went another direction.
I am even seeing some say we need a centerfielder! Are you kidding me?? I remember many saying that Schafer, even if he suffers at the plate, would be better than our other choices. Oh how quickly we forget.
I am ashamed of many of you. You don’t deserve to be called a Braves fan. Your a bunch of whining babies. Grow up. Remember the 80’s???
For those who have kept your sanity this week, I applaud you.
(much) later…..
Chop Chop
April 17th, 2009
11:01 pm
The Gym Dogs strapped on those leotards one last time for Suzanne Yoculan and won their fifth consecutive NCAA gymnastics championship. Congrats to the Gym Dogs.
Wayne in Utah
April 17th, 2009
11:03 pm
Keep the faith, Jake!
driver8
April 17th, 2009
11:04 pm
Also during his three years here he hit .297, .294, and .267 respectively.
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:04 pm
driver8,
I dont think Nixon was running because cox sent him but on his own.
Uff dah
April 17th, 2009
11:05 pm
Chop Chop, they wear thongs, not straps.
Tokyo Bravo
April 17th, 2009
11:06 pm
Yo Doc H.,
After you finish suckin’ on that lemon, you can go on to bed.
I assure you, your witty banter won’t be missed.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:06 pm
Driver8
Great stats & impressive. I’ll take your word for it & stand corrected
Now, things seem to be heating up in the war of words between But its early & Jake W.
Wish the Braves had that much fire in them
N Nine
April 17th, 2009
11:06 pm
bunch of whining babies. Grow up. Remember the 80’s???
No! Did Ryan Freel play for us?
We need to figure out how to hit left handers, that would be a nice start.
driver8
April 17th, 2009
11:06 pm
And of course THE LEMMER did a fine job at times in that hole as well. Oh the old days! Good Times, Good Times!
Dixie Dawg
April 17th, 2009
11:09 pm
wow, the Braves are sinking faster than a turd in a mud puddle. They are playing with absolutely no passion. They have hand-dog expressions on their faces.
Bobby is continuing to pick his nose, Liberty Media continues to run the team further into mediocrity, Chipper continues to be hurt. SOS, different day.
When are the Braves going to be like the Falcons and do something positive? This is pathetic and embarrassing. We need new owners and new personnel.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:09 pm
Driver8
Do not recant my disdain for Blauser. Questioning those stats but too lazy to check – much like the Braves are too lazy to learn how to bunt
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:09 pm
Sure mom……..I go to bed as soon as you say please.
N Nine
April 17th, 2009
11:10 pm
Tokyo Bravo It’s been a tough day for everyone including Doc
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:10 pm
……..and kiss me good night.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:11 pm
Heathcare check on Ms Cox please!
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:11 pm
N Nine,
Tough week Id say
Jake W.
April 17th, 2009
11:11 pm
First things first Doc i’m talking about 1 game, the game we just played. Read Carefully now: I said some hit the ball hard and they hit it hard right at the pirate defenders. You’re going off on some tangent about something else when the only thing I said was exactly what we did. Not making excuses for Bobby or anyone else on that team. Don’t know what you’re reading into my post.
By the way, whether you believe it or not, luck is a big part of this game. Probably more than any other sport. It is truly the game of inches whether hitting or pitching. You don’t have to agree with it as I said in my earlier post. It’s my take. Take it or leave it.
Ray K.
April 17th, 2009
11:12 pm
Hey guys… where do you think ESPN has the Braves on their power ranking chart now? Hahahahah! Number one, please God what a joke. So, we get a guy on base to start the 8th, down by one, and Bobby decides to…let Diaz hit? We bunt to manufacture a run early in the game but in the 8th, with time dwindling, we swing away?
Bobby…please just retire you overestimated dinosaur.
Cecil Upshaw
April 17th, 2009
11:12 pm
Man, is it just me or does McDowell seem to get less with more? I know, I”m living in the past wishing for Leo. Of course, he’s up the road and unemployed, unless you consider having to spend 4 hours a day with the two biggest idiots in sports radio legitimate employment. Could be worse, he could have Shapiro on the show with the other nutbags.
Lou Vales
April 17th, 2009
11:13 pm
I STILL–and you know I love them–don’t know if the Marlins pen can hold up(and this is after 15 2/3 innings of consecutive scoreless). But I’ll tell you something—NO!!, ask the guy who heads up this Blog who I have sufficiently pi$$ed off that he will show me that he is BOSS by not responding, to check the readily available studies that go back to 1900 and have been conducted by “marginal” schools like Harvard, Cal Poly and RPI , and see how many “marginal” teams have gone 9-1 over ANY 10 game span in a season.
Also, DON’T buy into the “It’s a marathon not a sprint” crowd. They are somewhat right, but check out the marathon runners that start losing ground after a mile or so. 5% of the MLB season is over. That is the equivalent of 1.3 miles in a marathon. Check out the marathon runners after 1.3 miles and see if you can start to form some conclusions about who WON’T win. You won’t know who WILL win, but the potential winner will not be showing flaws.
TnBrian
April 17th, 2009
11:16 pm
Wren would’ve been wiser to sign a Braden Looper for less than half of what Kawakami is making. Seriously, the man knew Chipper would get injured because the entire baseball world knows he’s about as injury prone as you can get, but he decided a P.R. move is the way to go instead.
You can never have enough pitching, but Wren didn’t get the memo that we already had enough of it after he would sign Lowe. Remember, Wren was already in heavy pursuit of Lowe when he/they decided to get Kawakami. A Nick Swisher would’ve certainly helped these last few games and I’m afraid that won’t be the last time I say that this year.
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:17 pm
Jake W.,
So we could say that Maddux was a very lucky pitcher and that Chipper Jones has been a very lucky hitter……..right?
Give me a break.
W.T. Sherman
April 17th, 2009
11:20 pm
30 days from now we’ll all sit back and laugh about it…..
micky
April 17th, 2009
11:20 pm
Lou Vale I thought youse was in the pen. Last I remember the heist in Indiana went awry and youse got nabbed. What you get five years. What are you doing out. Youse must got a good lawyer.
TnBrian
April 17th, 2009
11:20 pm
Lou Vales, I’m picturing you as a fat, hairy chested loser sitting with his cat in front of the computer with your thumb up your butt! You actually sat and looked up equivalents of marathons to a MLB season and how a person can compare the percents… HOLY SH**, I can’t believe I read that sh**!!
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:21 pm
Lou Vales
Is Loafer Garrett chillin with you?
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:22 pm
W.T. Sherman,
No need to wait 30 days, Im already laughing at this team. They are the biggest joke ever.
delusional Braves fan
April 17th, 2009
11:23 pm
“30 days from now we’ll all sit back and laugh about it…..”
Yes. We’ll laugh. HA HA HA!
HA HA HA, HA HA HA, HA HA HA, HA HA HA
HA HA HA
HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA!
1995
April 17th, 2009
11:24 pm
Dear Ted Turner,
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Done
April 17th, 2009
11:24 pm
The saying goes, ” if you always do what you always did, you’ll always get what you always got.”
That speaks directly to the last 3 and beginning 4th year with the Braves.
I’ve heard managers defended when their job is on the line and they are losing because they didn’t have the personnel to win. Manny Acta is the latest on the hotseat who is getting defended by none other than the Braves broadcasters. Well they are right to a degree. Acta doesn’t have a cast of steller players in DC.
But what about the Braves? They hit like crazy and pitched well (with the exception of the single inning in Philly) for a week. The next week, they look like an A ball team. Are they as good as they were in Philly or are they as bad as they were in Atl?
In two of the past four preseasons, the Braves were picked, at least by some media folks, to win the NL East. Not only did they not win the East, they failed to make the playoffs the last three years and are beginning the 2009 season looking like last years team, a team that finished way under .500. The point I’m trying to make is this: According to some of the “experts,” the team has underachieved for at least the last 3 years.
If Bobby Cox name was Joe Blow, Braves manager who was hired 4 years ago, would he still have a job? With the exception of last years injury cluster team, many thought the teams of the last 3 years were built to win. One run loses over that period of time have been rampant. Offensive outbursts of 3 or 4 games happen then the team can’t buy a run for a week has also been an MO in recent years.
This team simply IS NOT prepared to compete. Mental toughness is not something that is expected from Atlanta players. If a player doesn’t have it, Bobby isn’t going to give it to him. Bobby wants to hug and coddle his players. He accepts too many mental mistakes and assumes words of encouragement will turn things around. Hows that been working out lately?
The Braves won during the Maddux-Glavine-Smoltz years. Those three guys were mentally tough. They didn’t learn that from Bobby. Those guys led by example displaying a will and desire to play and accept nothing less than 100 % from themselves. That is leading by example. In essence, Bobby had his in-house teachers and leaders who provided something he never has provided, a roadmap to succeed based on willing yourself not to fail.
Bobby is suited to be a mom who puts an icepack on juniors nose and gives him a hug after the bully just punched his nose. He should be telling junior to wipe his own nose, quit crying and learn to defend himself then go look for the bully and punch him in the nose before he punches you in the nose! But that isn’t going to happen with this manager.
driver8
April 17th, 2009
11:24 pm
TNJeff – NO hard feelings here my fellow Braves fan just wanted to support what I was saying. Numbers don’t always justify the situation but during those days I think it did, and yes to the other guy who said Otis ran on his own. Sure would be nice to have another like Otis that Bobby didn’t have to decide on when to steal and when not to.
I agree we need to get our act together early tomorrow with JoJo Reyes on the hill. I think the clubhouse understands the necessity of Chipper in this lineup but has to understand and they knew this coming in it’s not his team anymore. The other fellas have to step up and get things done, but that has been stated a hundred time fold over the last week.
Lets hope for another strong outing from our starters and maybe just maybe those hits will find the holes tomorrow and the days to come.
nolie
April 17th, 2009
11:25 pm
Even when the Braves had Nixon & Sanders they HAVE NEVER stolen many bases period. Pretty sure the stats will show (tnjeff)
second in the league one year IIRC
Jake W.
April 17th, 2009
11:25 pm
Actually Doc I would say that that Maddux is a great pitcher who got some good luck sometimes and I would say that Chipper is great hitter who has had some good luck.
I mean if Maddux makes the perfect pitch to a get a groundball in a DP situation and someone manages to dump it just behind Chipper or just out of reach of Escobar. Or if Chipper crushes a ball and the winds knocks it down and it becomes a flyout. I could give you hundreds of scenerios where luck, good or bad, comes in to play, but I won’t waste my time. I’ve made my point.
jbutler
April 17th, 2009
11:26 pm
delusional…put down the joint. The symptoms will subside soon; take mucho Tylenol when reality sets in. It will not be pretty.
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:29 pm
Yo Tokyo Bravo,
Would you wake me up when we (if ever) are back to .650 baseball?
Bobby Ball
April 17th, 2009
11:29 pm
It’s ok. The Braves will recover quickly. Bobby will cuss and scream at the umpires and everything will be alright.
But Its early .....yeah right (Doc H.)
April 17th, 2009
11:30 pm
Only one thing could make this night even worse………..mets fan in atl.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:30 pm
my prediction concerning tomorrow’s game
If the Braves have a small lead going in to the 5th inning, Reyes will fall apart. He has a mental thing about getting through the 5th inning and securing a win possibility.
I’m serious when I say the Braves need to see Smoltz’s sports psychologist.
I'm not a doctor (I just play one on this blog)
April 17th, 2009
11:33 pm
Braves don’t need a sports psychologist they need a sports pharmacologist.
Lou Vales
April 17th, 2009
11:36 pm
TnBrian, I told ALL you nice people on Wednesday night where I would be yesterday and what I would be wearing and where I wouild be sitting–3rd Row behind the Marlins dugout and wearing a University of Utah sweater. I did that after making repeated overtures of commiseration for past “harsh” words I directed towards the Bravos. I even apologized for past comments. I thought some here MIGHT be able to get the day off and would like to chat baseball. But instead I get these silly comments about fantasies of what I look like.
By the way, do some of you—and this is not directed towards all–Phi Beta Kappas think it brain surgery to take 5% of 26??? No SAT exams in the future??
I hope there are MANY “hairy chested losers” on this board with the means to take numerous road trips to follow the Braves on road trips.
Mike R
April 17th, 2009
11:37 pm
Ok we now see that the league has “caught up” with Diaz and Schafer. You will remember that Diaz didn’t hit last season when given the chance to be a full-time player. He has continued his weak hitting coming back this season. In both his last at bats yesterday and today he swung and missed 3 straight pitches that were not close to being strikes. Diaz is what he is; a 4th or 5th outfielder with no power.
Schafer belongs in AAA as he is totally over matched. His defense can’t keep him in the lineup. He won’t remind anyone of Andruw.
Chipper needs to be a true leader and play ball injury or not. Notice that Escobar follows his lead and sits out with a minor injury. Do you think that Ripken, Gehrig, Eddie Mathews, Aaron, Mays, Luis Aparico, or Ozzie Smith would have sit out with those “injuries” ?
spotts
April 17th, 2009
11:38 pm
Tim Brown’s take on the Braves:
Braves relievers introduce fresh strategy to late-inning, bases-loaded situations: the walk. Bobby Cox, ever old school, will have to think this through.
infomercial
April 17th, 2009
11:42 pm
Lou Vales cornered the market on Don Knotts memorobilia and has made a fortune selling these items on eBay. Soon he will have enough money to buy a minor league baseball team. He has an eye on an A level team in South Dakota. He will also broadcast the games. Whenever someone on his team hits a homer he will shout in a high falsetto: Lulululululululululululululululu!
Blaine Boyer is a hairy fat guy
April 17th, 2009
11:45 pm
but you will never catch him with his thumb up his butt. He is saving himself for marriage.
Lou Vales
April 17th, 2009
11:45 pm
Just had an idea. When the Braves travel to New York we will be up there. I’ll hold a big sign for DOB at Citi Field at field level before the game.. He can come over, we’ll take a picture and maybe he can put to rest the “fat and bald” stuff. Old?? Yes!! Over 60!! BUT!!, having a real good life.
DamnTheButcher
April 17th, 2009
11:45 pm
Is it just me or is radio guy Jim Powell the worst ever. That SOB sounds the same if someone is poping up in the first or hitting a grand slam in the ninth. His sorry azz needs to go.
Lou Vales
April 17th, 2009
11:47 pm
TnBrian, Is that your post at 11:20 PM?? If not, I apologize for not knowing someone was assuming your name.
Beautiful Monte
April 17th, 2009
11:48 pm
I’ve said it before, I’m saying it again:
Going all the way back to last season, the Braves have been EXTREMELY poor at the fundamentals of baseball, i.e., making all of the routine plays in the field, moving the runners up at the plate, and being smart on the basepaths.
When you have more talent than most/all of your opponents, you can sometimes get away with being fundamentally unsound, but it’s quite obvious that the Braves have mediocre talent, so they must do “the little things” on a nightly basis if they want to compete for a playoff berth.
The fact that the Braves have proven incapable of doing “the little things” reflects VERY poor on the ENTIRE ballclub – players, coaches, and manager included.
Dixie Dawg
April 17th, 2009
11:49 pm
We need Arthur Blank, Ned Yost, and Leo Mazzone!
JEFF
April 17th, 2009
11:49 pm
just pathetic and a joke… cant stand watching this team the last 3 years. no passion and no heart for the game.. bobby cox and frank wren have infected this whole team.. chipper being hurt every week.. and the offense what a joke.. congrats to you mr wren. what a lineup you have.. the torpedo has hit the ship and its sinking fast. lets go out and lose 5 straight tomm and then 6 and still no one will give a flip about this team. bobby sure doesnt.. mr pathetic GM doesnt care at all except the money hes getting for a awful and pathetic job he has done.. way to run this team into the ground cox and wren.. and liberty media. yea what owners we have.. they could care less as well. someone needs to clean house and tell cox to go golfing if he even can do that and tell wren to go to diserrted island and never touch a baseball team again… 10 games in and we are headed toward the basement… no offense and no bullpen. season well played..
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:50 pm
Beautiful Monte
Welcome to Bobby Ball
Lou Vales
April 17th, 2009
11:51 pm
I guess it’s strange, but I’ve never “pictured” what any of you look like. Is that a requirement for blogging??
deputy dog
April 17th, 2009
11:53 pm
Lou Vales we cannot picture you but we have a vague idea what you might smell like.
Mary Richards
April 17th, 2009
11:56 pm
Lou Vale looks exactly like Ed Asner. Only older.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:57 pm
tired and need to go to sleep. but now I fear I will dream of fat hairy stoned traveling yankees with thumbs hidden in places they should not be.
uga-brave
April 17th, 2009
11:57 pm
once again and all together, why the suprise.
i know hope grows eternal in the spring, but this is a average team with above average starters, a below average bullpen, and a average offense.
so after 10 games a 5-5 record.
hate to beat that old dead horse, but the braves dont have a true
leadoff hitter, dont have any power at 1st base, left, or right.
TNJeff
April 17th, 2009
11:58 pm
Or dream of Ed Asner – marginally better than the aforementioned
brent a.
April 18th, 2009
12:03 am
I’ll just throw this out and feel free to shoot it down.
For years, especially when Pat Corrales was the bench coach, the Braves were lauded for their defensive positioning. That, combined with great pitchers like Maddux and Glavine, who knew how pitch to their defensive alignment, helped the Braves have great success.
Now, we have people talking about how the Braves hit the ball hard, but right at people.
Look, I’m looking for positives, too; but, have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the other team is aligning its defense and pitching to the Braves’ hitters in a manner that will get the Braves to hit it right at the defense?
Now, I understand that this can’t be an exact science, heck, if it were, teams could master it and not give up a run. We know that isn’t going to happen. Just like when a guy homers, his team gives him credit while the other team blames the pitcher. It’s an issue of perspective.
That said, when a team consistently comes up empty, leaves runners on base, etc., it may not simply be bad luck; but rather, it could be that they are not good, and the other team is successfully executing a plan to exploit the team’s weaknesses.
psalm 23
April 18th, 2009
12:05 am
Even though I walk through the vale of the shadow of Lou, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
Lou Vales
April 18th, 2009
12:05 am
TnBrian(Or imposter), You are fixated with dreaming about men before you go to sleep. As they said on Seinfeld,”Not that there is anything wrong with that”,but have you consulted with anyone??
TWO!!! posts in ONE!!! minute about men and nocturnal thoughts.
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
12:05 am
lou vales,
every village has a idiot, our’s is Tn brian.
the internet is a amazing thing.
brent a.
April 18th, 2009
12:05 am
Lou Vales,
The jabs people are taking at you are actually not attempts to find out more about you.
Less is more. Trust me.
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:06 am
brent a.
Maybe I’m just avoiding my fantasy dreams of Lou Vales but that comment was intriguing.
Certainly don’t think braves pitchers are trying this strategy against others since they struggle just to find the strike zone
Lou Vales
April 18th, 2009
12:06 am
I’m sorry> It was TNJeff and not TN Brian. Is this a Tennessee thing??
Lou of the Vale
April 18th, 2009
12:07 am
“he’s the lou of the vale, the bright and morning star, he’s the fairest of 10,000 to . . .”
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:08 am
do we need to schedule an inervention for TN brian?
Mike R
April 18th, 2009
12:10 am
It is funny reading you folks slam Bobby Cox. Cox knows more baseball than all of us on this blog put together. I followed the Braves religiously since 1966. Cox, serving as GM, built the core of the team that won 14 straight division titles. Cox and Bill Lucas, (most of you will not remember him), built the 1982 that Torre, (Torre’s own words), led to the Western Division title. Don’t start with your koolaid comments. Very few of you are even old enough to remember Jonestown and what the koolaid was used for.
Check your Atlanta Braves history, 1969 is the only time the Braves have gone to the postseason without Cox building/managing the team. Read Pete Van Wieren’s book on the history of the Braves. You may learn something and actually appreciate Cox, (but I doubt it). The rest of the baseball world praises Cox but y’all seem to think you know more than anyone actually working in baseball…
One last thing, JS and now Wren have depended upon Cox to cover up their mistakes. Now however, the mistakes are too great for any manager.
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:11 am
Here in the hills of TN nobody & no thing is safe
Lou Vales
April 18th, 2009
12:12 am
Brent, If you think these are “jabs”, I’m hoping you have nothing to do with defense appropriations.
Okay, I’m going downstairs to watch the end of the Tigers-Mariners game. The team of my youth is really a colossal waste of Mike Illitch’s money.
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
12:13 am
Oh, my silly humor and people that get offended from us bloggers…
Seriously Lou, who cares what I say as you should be riding high with your Marlins kicking butt right now, right? We’re all a little testy around here, at least I am, so a little ribbing to the competetion is ok in my book. I have so many nicknames like, “TinBrain”, “ignorant redneck”, and you can make up another if you’d like.
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
12:13 am
That Sheffield swing tonight, that looked like vintage Sheff, or very close. Bat speed didn’t look slowed down to me, certainly not to the degree that some scouts said this spring. But we’ll see. Maybe he was geeked up for one at-bat his 500th or whatever, or maybe it’s first time he’s been this healthy in a while, and he won’t be able to stay this healthy. But whatever, he crushed that pitch tonight, and that bat speed still looked pretty ferocious.
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:14 am
And another thing for Cox, he throws a mean left hook
TooBusy?
April 18th, 2009
12:17 am
I’m not sure that Brian is the real TN dummy.
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:17 am
Sheff “geeked up” – certainly not back training with Barry?
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
12:17 am
TnJeff, no interventions please. Don’t harm anyone or myself, just a normal ole’ Braves fan blogging away. This is actually good for the mind…you know, keeping your mind on something you love. Alright, i’ll stop.
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
12:18 am
lou vales,
market prognosticator, right?
you say you are some sort of trend trader, read some of your doomsday posts.
not saying you are right or wrong, but the s&p 500 just went from 666 on march 9th to 860 in five weeks.
you were not around 20 months ago when i called the lehman, bear stearns thing.
lou if you are the mensa member that you proclaim, why feed the monkeys?
Dixie Dawg
April 18th, 2009
12:21 am
Lou Vales is a troll.
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:21 am
rather than sleeping, going surfing as its safer
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
12:22 am
Penny gives up eight earned in three innings for Sox tonight … and they still win.
Nick Green, of all people, had a huge hit for Boston.
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
12:23 am
DOB, you can ignore this or whatever, but I think I make a good point that Kawakami was really not neccessary as we already had plenty of pitching depth. Don’t you think that $7.3M would have been better spent on a bat through trade or FA? I’m positive that Wren had his mind set on getting Lowe when he signed Kawa., so that shoulda been it.
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
12:24 am
DOB,
sheff, andruw, or diaz.
dob, when diaz gets behind in the count in late rbi situations he is useless.
he cant lay off pitches out of the strike zone.
on top of that he cant field his position.
still dont understand the braves not bringing andruw back for $500,000.
the money they dropped in garrett, could of gone to beimel, and ohman.
trend trader
April 18th, 2009
12:25 am
In the words of Neil Young:
Every wave is new ’til it breaks.
Ray K.
April 18th, 2009
12:26 am
Anyone who is recommending Chipper Jones step up, be a leader and play, despite the debilitating pain in his hand rendering him nearly teary-eyed, are being unrealistic. Chipper is, bar none, the most naturally gifted hitter playing today, period. Some guys surpass him in a single category such as power or defense, but–and I don’t say this lightly–NO ONE matches his arsenal of weapons in terms of plate vision, discipline, stategy. He does not get cheated at the plate nor does he slump for extended periods of time. The guy doesn’t get enough credit for how smart he is in his approach.
It is extremely unfortunate how injury prone he is but anyone who thinks his absenteeism is somehow a reflection of his lack of fortitude or leadership skills are seriously misguided in their judgment. I think that any innuendos floating around on the blogosphere questioning his dedication are only a product of our frustration as Braves fans and how much we desperately miss his presence. Anyone inside the organization will tell you Hoss hates to lose games as much as we hate to lose him.
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
12:27 am
dob,
is that our nick green?
remember three or four years ago whe nick green hit a walkoff in extra innings against the sox.
i'm truCkIN
April 18th, 2009
12:29 am
stttttttttUck
TNJeff
April 18th, 2009
12:31 am
kind of funny the other night just after the braves announcers boast of how much Diaz’s defense has improved when oops there’s another one of those stupid errors on his part.
Back Burner Braves
April 18th, 2009
12:31 am
Dang what the hell happened? The TN brothers fight,while UGA and LOU are really stockbrokers.
No post game comments–just Sheff? what happened to my season?????????
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
12:33 am
DOB, you can ignore this or whatever … — TnBrian
Good, thanks.
Moby Grape
April 18th, 2009
12:34 am
is extremely unfortunate how injury prone he is but anyone who thinks his absenteeism is somehow a reflection of his lack of fortitude or leadership (RayK)
yeah by the time he was Chipper’s current age Eddie Matthews had endured 5 straight mediocre seasons and was retired. Don’t pay too much attention to the Chipper or Cox haters, they are mostly just morons spewing their dissatisfaction with life in the only way they know how. Some need to make themselves feel big by maligning people respected by their peers. Sad, but common.
Wayne in Utah
April 18th, 2009
12:36 am
DOB
Have you talked to Jo Jo? What do you think about his chances tomorrow?
Thanks in advance….
(gotta get out to the NE sometime and check out a few of those parks, like PNC. I went to Yankee Stadium when my son was in 8th grade. Awesome experience!)
uga
The blog is full of loons tonight….be careful!
Wayne in Utah
April 18th, 2009
12:37 am
Moby
Well said!
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
12:40 am
DOB, thanks for your input! I feel a lot better about the Braves season now…
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
12:41 am
dave, is that something that john cusack would of said to one of his patrons in high fidelity?
dude, tnbrian seems to be a rounder.
DOB, this new quick feed back thing has created a new fan base.
miss guys like chris klob, braveheart is a drive by guy now, either way i still love your efforts.
Chop Chop
April 18th, 2009
12:43 am
Ray K.,
I’d take Pujols over Chipper as “most gifted natural hitter” any day of the week.
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
12:49 am
uga-brave, pick a topic to discuss and I can talk…type about it. I’m full of useless information, so shoot away.
Wayne in Utah
April 18th, 2009
1:00 am
TnBrian-I’m full of useless information, so shoot away.
No truer words were ever spoken (or blogged).
uga-brave
April 18th, 2009
1:02 am
TnBrian,
was not meant as a insult, my bad. you are a great braves fan. it just seems you are on this thread all the time.