1:47 pm April 17, 2009, by David O'Brien
April 19th, 200911:45 am
Its April 19th people. Its been 3 years and waiting.
April 19th, 200911:47 am
Fredi Gonzalez/Leo Mazzone for 2010 (Louis Prima)
I’m not a Leo fan, too many people in baseball thought he was too hard to get along with anymore on the younger pitchers.Browbeat them so much it effected their confidence. The team might have felt the same since they made no real effort to coax him into staying and neither they nor any other team has been iaggressive in hiring him since then.
Fredi on the other hand I think is an excellent suggestion for manager, but didn’t I read that he has already been re-signed for a few more years?
DOB – thanks for your hard work! I love following the blog and your updates!
McFann Ô Ô
Oh good…thanks, Chief! I cann rest a little easier, now.
Wish I woulda waited a couple more seconds before I posted that last comment…feel a little too dramatic now…
Oh, and Bobby’s starting Prado today, despite Johnson’s .368 avg. and .842 slugging percentage vs. lefties.
We’ll get a new blog up before the game. For now, here’s lineup
1. Infante, SS
2. Prado, 2B
3. Jones, 3B
4. Anderson, LF
5. Francoeur, RF
6. Kotchman, 1B
7. Ross, C
8. Schafer, CF
9. Vazquez, RH
April 19th, 200911:48 am
My computer just kept messing up when I reloaded the page but it’s good now I guess
so lasik messed his eye up more?
April 19th, 200911:51 am
He had lasik two years ago, had no problems whatsoever until this month.
well considering what happened in the last day game with Kelly I kinda don’t blame Bobby….even if Kelly has put on some good D lately.
But Prado has been going away from himself and pulling the ball instead of driving it to right center.
It’s kinda weird this is the first time Chipper is starting with Vazquez pitching.
April 19th, 200911:52 am
okay, can’t find the remote again, and i’m now stuck with fat ladies doing yoga on pbs
April 19th, 200911:53 am
The way you worded it it sounded like his eye was better before lasik, Sorry.That’s my I asked the question. LOL
Lou Vales, don’t read this comment: Pirates are playing The Clash’s “Lost In The Supermarket” on the stadium PA during BP. Played Dylan’s “Tangled Up In Blue” yesterday during BP. Nowhere else. Very cool.
(Vales, I warned you not to read that. i know how you’d prefer to stick to relentless, 24-hour-a-day, repetitive posts about the horrible world economy and the Braves’ misfortunes, with the only exceptions being your insider references to South Florida radio/TV while taking shots at Boog. Meanwhile, our distractions like movies, music or other pop-culture matters seem to throw off your compass.)
April 19th, 200911:55 am
bravos: no problem. understood.
April 19th, 200911:56 am
I Know It’s Early In The Season..BUT..The Braves Have Proven That They Are A .500
Club At Best! Shoddy Pitching,Shoddy Hitting, Shoddy Fielding!!
Don’t Know Why We Can’t Take A “Clue” From The Fla. Marlins…They Have Won MORE
Pennants Than The Braves, Won As Many If Not MORE Games In The Last 5 Years..Have
MUCH Less Payroll AND Know How The Game Is Suppose To Be Played!
As Long As Bobby Cox Is HERE..Don’t Expect Much From The Braves..The Game Has
Passed Him By! The Brave’s Seem To Be A Place Where A Player, In The Twilight Of His
Career, OR..Coming Off Major Career Ending Surgery, Can Find A Home!!
April 19th, 200911:57 am
Ohhh……….. as I sigh at that lineup.
April 19th, 200912:00 pm
With Chipper and McCann guaranteed to miss 20% of the games, we really can’t afford to have KJ miss 10% of the games just because ……
ESPN thinks Miguel Cabrera could be traded if Detroit stinks again this year…lol
April 19th, 200912:01 pm
Braveheart, don’t pretend you don’t like fat ladies doing yoga.
April 19th, 200912:02 pm
Lawton, ain’t nothing wrong with a big, strong woman
April 19th, 200912:03 pm
Braveheart, I hear ya’
April 19th, 200912:06 pm
DOB-It makes perfect sense-both what he’s experiencing and the treatment thereof. Sounds to me (from having quite similar problems as a result of my own surgeries) like it IS a matter of dry eye. It happens frequently after having opthalmic procedures and it can drive you nuts. Dry eye feels like you have a grain of sand in your eye and you can’t get it out. The natural inclination is to rub your eye and that pretty much makes it worse.
If drops and ointment don’t work, they also have a procedure where they plu the tear ducts and it aids in moisturizing the eyes.
April 19th, 200912:07 pm
Our old buddy Will Ohman managed to get his second MLB base hit and first career RBI in the Dodger win vs Rockies, yesterday. Ohman now owns a cool career BA of .500 (2 for 4), with his last hit coming on 5/11/06. More importantly he picked up his second successful Hold of 2009.
Must suck to be Ryan Speier for giving up that hit. Not sure Blaine Boyer is that bad. Perhaps Boyer would be a good fit for the Rockies–imagine him at Coors Field–ouch!
April 19th, 200912:08 pm
DOB – I’m all for free speech and free media. I would fight and die for amendment 1. But since this is your personal Blog ( along with the AJC ) is there anyway to combat posts like Today At The Ballpark. I personally find that post racist, sexist and anything else that is offensive by the FCC’s standards. Not that I’m a big proponent the FCC…….but..
Need to count up the number of suggestions, see who’s ahead among the fire McDowell, fire Pendleton, fire Cox, fire Wren and fire Liberty balloting. Probably pretty close…. DOB
Why dont we just see who everyone wants gone the most and have a poll asking who should be fired, lol. That will give us an idea of who is the biggest scape goat on everyones list.
April 19th, 200912:12 pm
Hanson’s pitching for Gwinnett today, 2 p.m. home game vs. Norfolk. Big crowd there, I’m sure.
Excuse me-that was a procedure to PLUG the tear ducts.
April 19th, 200912:14 pm
Lew, thanks for the info. Good stuff. And I remember when Jeff Conine had that tear-duct plug procedure done that you’re talking about. He had problems similar to what Mac’s having now, but Conine was a contact-lens wearer (back before Lasik got big). It drove him nuts in places like Colorado, with the dry air. The tear-duct plug worked well, if I remember correctly.
Frankie-It’s just Jealous Johnson, Stinky, etc. posting more of his crud. The jockstrap reference is a dead giveaway. He (or she) has a jock strap fetish. Extremely weird and perverse, but it does take all kinds-for contrast, if nothing else.
Macfleetwood- Random and Nolie will be mad as hell about your opinion at 11:56. they run the Cox, Wren fan club.
April 19th, 200912:17 pm
Yeah, thanks for the info, Lew!
Though I did at first wonder what “plu” meant.
Steve from OH
April 19th, 200912:21 pm
Lew, did I hear you say something about butt plugs?
No, that is just your subconscious desire talking…don’t worry though, eventually you’ll get over it. You hope.
April 19th, 200912:22 pm
The challenge with the Braves is we are seeing the same same movie we have seen for the past 4 years hence our collective frustrations. New cast of characters, same result. It is not surprising that people are calling for coaches & managers to get canned.
It is way to early for that but IF things continue on this path then a reasonable person would have to say we tried adding new bodies etc and we still stink – time to turn our attention to those running the team.
If the Braves were like most teams half the staff from 2008 would have been fired in October. We all know this to be true. You don’t lose 90 games (with ~90mm payroll) after coming in 3-4 place for the previous 2-3 and keep everybody. That is Bobby’s loyalty working and Wren’s respect for BCs decision. Yes there was a train load of injuries but there was also sloppy play, poor fundamentals and bi polar hitting/pen performances.
The fact is pitching and timely hitting have been MIA on this team for a long time. While we finally have a decent rotation we still have a weak pen and a lineup that implodes without the mere presence of Chipper. Anyway I digress.
Wren did make some moves but they were almost entirely aimed at creating a rotation of innings eaters – who btw are not eating innings as we would have expected. Apart from opening day no starter has gone into the 8th inning and most are averaging 5.5-6.5 innings. Not very impressive.
Heck we got 5-6innings from the mess we called a rotation last year, it exposed the weak pen and we all know the end result.
More troublesome is the the sudden lack of offense.
JF is hitting now but everyone else looks lost or is pressing. The pressing stems from the pen or rather the lack of faith in it.
A suspect pen creates havoc with a team & it’s psyche. No lead is safe so starters try to be perfect and throw too many pitchies nimbling at corners. They run up their pitch counts and get the hook early.
Batters try to him 500ft HRs b/c they know w/o an 10 run lead they could lose every night. The result is first pitch pop outs, swing at the first pitch when a new pitcher comes into the game and the like. It quickly looks like the batter has no plan at the plate. Apart from JF (more or less) the lineup is now in hacking mode trying to make something big happen versus just putting the ball in play.
Wren shot the wad on the rotation and crossed his fingers on the pen. He believed the pen stunk last year due to overuse, he was incorrect. It stunk b/c there is little reliable talent in the pen. It has been an area of underinvestment and band-aids for too long hence the repeat (thus far) of the movie we saw last year.
Fix the pen and the winning will return. Tweak it marginally and all of the bad symptomns from above will linger. Easier said than done b/c I am talking about replacing half the pen if not more.
They need a real LF starter/HR bat (still) but that ship has sailed at least until the deadline. Wren took a flier on GA and is now stuck with him. The only option he has (but it will take a 12 game losing streak to happen and more INF errors) would be to move KJ to LF and start Prado at 2B.
Takes Kelly’s suspect glove out of the INF and puts a good player who can hit at 2B. He could call up BJones as well if needed.
Regardless of what they do they need to be decisive and not let this funk linger. That means making major moves in the pen and perhaps with some position players.
April 19th, 200912:24 pm
that music is alot better than last time i went to Turner field, I remember a bunch of 10-year olds in front of me singing along to (spelled wrong im sure) Rhinna’s “Umbrella”
April 19th, 200912:26 pm
I think it’s funny how the Yankees can hardly hit homers out of that new stadium when the dimensions are ALL the same
Excellent post, ozzie.
April 19th, 200912:28 pm
Thanks Ozzie, agree.
April 19th, 200912:30 pm
terrible post, ozzie
April 19th, 200912:31 pm
DOB, are you caught up on Breaking Bad?
April 19th, 200912:32 pm
No-actually we did NOT get 5-6 innings from our starters last year. Don’t have the figures in front of me, but I wouldn’t mind having a couple bucks for every outing a starter went less than five. My economy would be stimulated cnsiderably.
April 19th, 200912:33 pm
waste of blog sapce, ozzie
Chris from the Rock
April 19th, 200912:36 pm
There are too many chicken littles in this blog. They’re only 11 games into the season. The World Champion Phillies are 4-6, The Red Sox are 5-6, the Rays are 5-7 and Yankees are 6-6.
Conversely, the Padres are 9-3, KC is 7-4, Mariners are 8-4 and the Blue Jays are 9-4.
Things are topsy-turvy in most divisions, b/c it’s only A-P-R-I-L!
April 19th, 200912:37 pm
Good post (OZZIE). well thought out and presented. I don’t agree with all of it but I enjoyed it.
April 19th, 200912:39 pm
Garrett Anderson is a real LF. Lets examine this. This is the first time he has played for another team in his career. He is still getting used to the National League pitchers and parks. He has had some adversity with the passing of Nick Adenhart. He missed a big portion of spring training. First because he signed late then got a calf injury. Give him time he will come around and be a big part of this team in the second half.
April 19th, 200912:41 pm
Braves are getting 5.8 IP per start this year; only teams better are AZ (5.9) and Pit (6.2). And keep in mind Lowe was pitching well in his second start but got knocked out by a rain delay after just 3 innings, or we’d probably be around 6 IP/start.
In ‘08 we were last in the NL with 5.5 IP/start. And I’m too lazy to break it down, but I’d bet that number dropped from good early in the year (when Smoltz and Hudson were pitching) to very bad the last couple of months, when Campillo, Reyes, Morton, Bennett, etc were getting the majority of starts.
April 19th, 200912:47 pm
They need to retire Cox to Fernbank with the other dinosaurs!
Run Heap Run on an iphone from a doc in a box with a sick kid
April 19th, 200912:51 pm
Thanks for the updates on mac, dob. Go Braves!
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 19th, 200912:54 pm
I think this vision problem is related to an infection. And for the good of Mc, I hope it is. Dont think it is related to something needing lasik. Why? Because I think Mc was not hibernating during winter, he was using his vision to do many things and it would raise many question marks if he has a blurry vision related to his eye physics. I mean, you dont get myopia or whichever the problem in 7 days…….. Hopefully we will see mc back in action pretty soon. Besides, I think Ross will do a very good job, thank god Corky is not around anymore.
April 19th, 200912:55 pm
April 19th, 200912:56 pm
Greetings from the Middle east. Unfortunately, I can’t even watch gamecast, so I have to rely on SportsCenter. Just finished a Port Visit in Dubai… looked around for some Mid-Eastern Cousine, and what do I find… a bunch of American Chain Restaurants! The closest thing I came to eating anything foreign was Japengos (as you might guess, mostly Japanese), and a really cool Mediterranean restaurant in one of the shopping malls. Everything else was McDonald’s, Hardee’s, O’Charley’s, etc…
Anyway, I agree with most of what Ozzie has to say. Not pretty, but a fair assessment of where the Braves are headed. Been a fan all my life (well, since I knew what baseball was). Gonna have to do better than the worst middle relief in the majors, at least in terms of ERA. Otherwise, see Groundhog Day.
Hope Mac gets better soon, and that the eye thing is nothing serious. I do think that Jordan Schafer will be a force to be reckoned with in the years to come.
by the way, don’t know where all the David Wright jokes got started but here’s one… David Wright sleeps with a night light.. not because he’s afraid of the dark , but because the dark’s afraid of David Wright.
Here’s to another winning streak!….
April 19th, 200912:57 pm
How about KJ at second batting fourth? Prado at first. I was hoping Schafer would be out today (Infante in CF). And why not Diaz in left? Id rather him hustle and miss a ball than GA not even attempt to get to balls.
SP was never mentioned as the problem here……..bullpen and lack of heart by the offense is……plus the inability to play small ball (AGAIN).
April 19th, 200912:58 pm
Chipper’s finally playing, good to see. I hope they beat the$hit out of the pirates, have some vengance.
Random and Nolie will be mad as hell about your opinion at 11:56. they run the Cox, Wren fan club (Justafan)
now there’s a pouty little 14 year old with obvious problems in comprehending the written word. Hi Justa. Have a nice day lil’ buddy.
April 19th, 200912:59 pm
kinda sad when the backup catcher hits ahead of you
April 19th, 20091:01 pm
Once step at a time……….winning would be enough.
One more thing… regardless of how we view Bobby’s effectiveness as a manager, can we PULEEEEZEE lay off the personal comments? Thanks.
I cant take it anymore
April 19th, 20091:03 pm
I wonder why bobby is sitting Kelly today?
April 19th, 20091:04 pm
I think because he’s sitting Diaz and he doesn’t want a lot of lefties in there
Mac’s eye could be from the pollen or other allergies. I’ve been using allergy eye drops for the wierd gunk in my eye that was just allergies. Makes vision blurry,very. I say this because it was just one of my eyes, like Mac’s.
I’ve noticed a theme here: Anyone who doesn’t support Bobby Cox knows nothing about baseball. Another theme: If we support our “beloved, Hall of Fame Manager” we’re the good guys on the blog.
Any other team would have fired the manager by now. But, oh, wait, this is the Atlanta Braves. They cannot fire their “beloved, Hall of Fame Manager.”
This coming from a no nothing about baseball fan since the mid-80’s. hmm..
April 19th, 20091:05 pm
and Diaz and Kelly are struggling…like mac in their last couple of games…but the whole team is they just mentioned a bunch but I can’t remember all of them
April 19th, 20091:06 pm
I think Brain Jordan just called out Bobby Cox on the pregame show. Love it!!!
April 19th, 20091:07 pm
Lol, it would be easier to list who is “not struggling” and that is a very short list…and is debatable.
Brian Jordan…good goin man! “Bobby needs to start MANUFACTURING runs and not wait on the 3 run hr so much”, as he says with a disgusted look on his face.
I think the braves are goong to score a run today. That big time offense can’t be shut out 3 games in a row…….Can they?
April 19th, 20091:10 pm
Why is this team a one star team….what other team depends on 1 guy to produce…this is why the Braves lose…the Yankees ae missing A-Rod but they have other players than just Tex that are stepping up…even though their pitching stinks, their offense isn’t that bad. My point is half of these players on our team have been in this league TOO long to depend on Chipper to give them energy in the lineup and what not. When I see other teams that have players younger than them hitting in the 3 hole, stepping it up it makes me sick to look at some of our players and hear some of our announcers say it’s Chipper’s duty to give them that, they are not rookies.
Sorry, I just have hated hearing that for the past 4 years…lol
18 Wheels of Love
April 19th, 20091:11 pm
Jerome Jarenovich just said McCann’s eye was worse today after trying a new ointment last night. Said he will see a specialist in DC.
April 19th, 20091:12 pm
Vazquez has given up 3 runs in 6 innings….in both starts this year. We are going to need to break out the bats and at least score 3 Ut-oh!
Millwood has a 1.17 ERA in the AL……..wow.
Dear David, I just wanted you to ONE time acknowledge back in February that the economy could impact baseball salaries, ticket prices, attendance and overall business practices. You were adamant that there would be no impact–Scott Boras like.
I have said that Boog is one of the finest play by play men in America and have alluded to the FACT that what he overcame–Have you been to Pete Rose’s Ballpark Cafe and have you shared a microphone with Goldberg??—a tough start. The only thing I criticized was the REFUSAL to admit Rose bet on baseball. I would bet you would admit a dismissal of the Dowd Report was a little star blinded.
I have also defended Cox against the mob, BUT I will NEVER let up on this Chipper Jones’ stuff. I have not criticized one other Brave on the current roster and have said they appear to me to be pretty talented. I do think it sad they have to play a man short for a majority of games. This becomes especially onerous with the Escobar and mcCann situation.
Why not tell your readers the perception of Chipper Jones around the country. Hell, they view him as a liability in the Upstate of South Carolina. It’s that Atlanta media who you would think would be the most critical who roll over like lap dogs. Sad!!!
April 19th, 20091:13 pm
Ludwick leading NL in RBI………..that must hurt
Maybe Mac need lasik again. Is it even guaranteed to last forever?
April 19th, 20091:14 pm
As a matter of fact Ludwick is leading in HR and 3rd in BA.
why would that hurt?
Can we get that quote from Brian Jordan?
April 19th, 20091:18 pm
Jeff, I did qoute it, at least the main part. Brian and Ron said this many times last year.
April 19th, 20091:19 pm
It would hurt to some cause there were either rumors or talks in the off season of the braves getting Ludwick
April 19th, 20091:20 pm
And he’s not leading by the way he’s tied with Soriano, which is a shock in itself.
April 19th, 20091:21 pm
Brian Jordan said Bobby needs to stop waiting on the big home run for offense and try to manufacturer a run. Something we all have said on here many times.
April 19th, 20091:22 pm
Why the hell does KJ have the day off? It’s great having Chipper back in there, but we are still very thin without Esco and Mac. Why not at least wait until tomorrow when Esco is back to give him a day off?
I am not one of these fickle negative fans and I am always sticking up for Cox when people bash him and want him fired. But I don’t understand this at all.
“I’ve noticed a theme here: Anyone who doesn’t support Bobby Cox knows nothing about baseball. Another theme: If we support our “beloved, Hall of Fame Manager” we’re the good guys on the blog.”
Excellent point, Liberty Braves!
April 19th, 20091:25 pm
Dear Dave, I have oiften commented that yuu write well, and the diversions into literature, music and cinema are great. However, I believe–you obviously disagree–that this Chipper Jones taking up a roster spot and not being disabled is borderline lunacy. As you know I also thoutht that a 3 year extension to a guy with the physical toughness of Kelly Preston was a horrible move. I never thought this was discussed adequately. Once it was, i would have loved to read your comments about nick in “Birdy”. I love Nicholas cage and find it amusing how he took that name.
You and I both loved Tom’s Ribs.
April 19th, 20091:26 pm
Either Bobby wanted more Righties in there, he wanted to give Diaz and Kelly a day off (they have struggled like everyone too), or he wanted to give Prado and Anderson playing time without giving up D @ first base
New blog time soon?
Braves MUST win today. Can’t get swept in back to back series and expect to be any kind of a NL or WC contender period. Losing Mac and Esco (again in the lineup) will hurt, but they have to SCORE some fraking runs. It’s pathetic that we are making the Pirates starting rotation look like Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz from the mid 90’s!
One more thing, so tired of the “without chipper” stats concerning the offense. he’s one guy! Yeah he’s a key player but it’s no reason for the offense to get shut out 2 games in a ROW by the Pirates.
April 19th, 20091:34 pm
Couple of minutes to first pitch. Hopefully chipper can come up with a couple of hits for us today, but more importantly, not injure his hand further. Let’s score early, hope JV can go 7, and get totally double pits to chesty with it!
April 19th, 20091:35 pm
We are already thin with KJ in there.
April 19th, 20091:36 pm
Omar flies out.
April 19th, 20091:37 pm
Martin Prado with a one out double..
Prado with a double! Come on HOSS!
April 19th, 20091:38 pm
Martin Prado base running miscue..tagged out at 3rd.
April 19th, 20091:40 pm
The whole team stinks. Management knew the Braves can’t hit so what did they do about it? Nothing. All I can say is us Braves fans are in for another stinking bad year. It’s also funny how any other team can take a pitcher who is a no name and work wonders with him and can certainly just destroy the Braves. Wren and Scherholtz please resign and let the team go in another direction.I wish the ownership would considering selling to an individual thst wants to win and would be willing to spend some money. Cox, why don’t you give Blanco a chance to play. At least he could get on base.
April 19th, 20091:41 pm
GA double. 3rd & 2nd, 2 outs.
finally we’re getting some of those bloops to fall
Does Anderson have any homerun power?
Garrett ANderson 2 out double Chipper moves to 3rd. Francouer up/
April 19th, 20091:42 pm
If say Glavine were done, how many starts do folks think Jojo will get before Morton or Hanson were called up?
Francouer base hit…Chipper scores Anderson Scores…. 2-0 Braves.
Frenchy! 2 rbi single to center! Now that’s getting double pits to chesty early!
April 19th, 20091:43 pm
Anderson gets a hit! what?? man prado ya dpn’t run when the ball is hit to the shortstop man it could be 3 to 0 but I will take the 2 to 0
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