If you are going to post something like that, please specify the channel so the drunkards (me) don’t have to try to read and follow the guide, which appear to be blurry…Thank you.!
Chipper has a great speech, motivates his team, then as always watches them play while he is in the dugout. For once lay it all out Chipper, make them carry you off the field- that would mean a lot more than words. A multi-million dollar part time player as usual
Chop Chop, they’re getting a bat if they’re still in contention come July, maybe sooner. They have trade pieces with Kotchman and if Hanson is up and pitching well, more than enough pitching to trade a guy or two. Probably a pitching prospect with Kotchman.
You are taking a logical approach for a player, and trying to apply it to fans who are simply analyzing games.
It doesn’t work.
If Kelly Johnson starts hitting again and plays great defense, then I could care less what he did the 2nd week of of April.
But, if Kelly continues to struggle, then his errors and missed offensive opportunities will continue to be a topic of conversation – just as his future success will be a topic of conversation when it occurs.
signs Kawakami Objective- sign a starter that bring experience to rotation
Extends Chopper Objective- Makeup with fans who feel robbed Smoltz left under the carpet
Extending Chopper shows how ignorant the GM reaally is. Everyone in the whole wide ferrrgin world knows he gets hurt, and now ladies and gents–he’s getting older..Keep cursing day by day for years to come because they show choppper chew on gum next to Balogna cox. This team is finished yet again.
Me thinks we shoulda let the season play out a little while before throwing that extension Chipper’s way. This team totally quits when he’s not in the lineup like some of my friends floating over here from Cuba did when a little water got in the hulled out ‘57 Chevy.
You guys are right. This is boring. The guy who heads this Blog for a soon to be defunct newspaper is talking about Van Morrison and Sunrise and A1A at 4:00 in the morning.
I believe it is really sad what is about to occur to major newspapers in america, BUT reading this crap negates most of my empathy.
Old Steve Hummer from the Palm Beach post used to write really well. Where has he gone?? Is he in charge of charting Nicholas cage projects??
Better sweep Wahington. Remember how bad they are.
Good Night Pete Rose wherever you are. Remember Fat Hank ALWAYS has your back. John “Boog” used to be fat, but has done a great job in the weight department and the announcing field. Beats the Hell out of his buddy Bob Wiechusen(Sp??). Remember when Fat Hank used to say the nice things about your mom?/ Those were the days!!!
Boog, You still listen to Uncle Neil and Phil Hendrie?? Atlanta radio really does stink–and you would admit to it. Be fun to have you hooked to a lie detector and inquire what you think of Buck and Kinkaid!!!I know what you think about the guy that has gone Big Time!!You really did mess up that source who had Spurrier going to New Orleans in the late 90’s. Man!! You were adamant about that. Did you REALLY think Pete didn’t bet on baseball or was that career motivated?/ You seemed way too smart to believe that. As long as you fed the Fat Man, he would believe anything. Remember when they called Joe Z “PK” and what it stood for?? Those were thr days.
Pizzaro – not necessarily, that would really depend on on Jo Jo, and the possiblilty of a Hanson call up before then. Baring no other injury, and with us in possible contention, Hudson would probably start out of the bullpen, regardless of what the naysayers will report.
The way the Braves are playing, the Nationals will sweep them. Remember,the Nats actually score runs and play with a little passion. I would rather have Manny Acta than Methuselah Cox anyday!
yeah yeah, and if we win tomorrow, or today, and take the series from Was. people will be back on the bandwagon. By the way, where’s KC at? He’s actually a loyal, smart fan that has suddenly disappeared from the blog. He ususally rights positive things about our team, but lately…
Im a Braves fan through and through, but, dammit, people have a right to be frustrated! If people didn’t care, they wouldn’t come on here and bitch about it. Enough about bandwagon fans.
I did not watch the game. So, I finally decided to check the play by play and what do I find?
Frigging madness.
The sixth inning.One out Intentional walk, LaRoche whiffs followed by a two out three run bomb from Craig Monroe.
The seventh inning. Two out Intentional walk to Adam LaRoche, and again, three run bomb from Craig Monroe.
The first three run bomb was off lefty Jo-Jo Reyes, and the second triple jack was off righty Buddy Carlyle. Meanwhile, Bobby Cox is playing match up games with his line up card instead of actually managing the game.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice , shame on me.
Biggest factor in Braves slide? Management=Frank & Bobby. I’m a die hard fan but I believe the Braves will not make the play offs again with present Mgr and GM. Thats my opinion and its as good as the next know it all.
Liberty, who isn’t frustrated? I agree, we have every right to protest this crap, but some people just whine and have no clue that it’s a looooonnnng season. Stop blaming Liberty Media! The Braves have/had more than enough money to put a winning team out there. Blame the coaches and players but L.M. is not trying to sink the Braves.
Have the Braves designated hotel personnel to make sure Chipper’s bed is soft enough tonight? There should also be a valet to hold his thumb in place, Hopefully thre are no spouses or significant others on the trip. if some player was to have wrists tied to bed with nylon that could cause contusioins and result in more missed ganes.
Spring Training doesn’t make a major league player. 6-8 wks and you beat someone out, BS it takes more time to prove yourselve. Jordon “how great thou are” wins job in ST? no AAA or ML exp. and they hand him the job..Damn joke!
two and a half years ago the braves made the decision to trade adam laroche.
all he did was hit .290, 32, and 90.
that was in less then 500 at bats.
we traded him because he was arb eligible, and our super genius cut back scouting department thought thor mighty god of thunder was ready to play 1st base.
sorry KC, dont see gonzo back here next year. the laroche trade set certain things in motion.
PENNY WISE POUND FOOLISH.
so we netted a guy slower then sid bream with comparable power to raphael belliard. aint kotch great?
Hope Chipper and Esco are back for tomorrow’s game. A little too early to panick…with our 2,3 and 4 hitters not being right so far. If they all can get healthy and be productive we’ll be fine. Esco and Prado have played well…along with Frenchy…so things could turn around quickly with a fully healthy lineup. It also helps that the Mets and Philles are also off to slow starts…not time to panic yet. Tomorrow/Today is a big game.
Im a Braves fan through and through, but, dammit, people have a right to be frustrated! (LIBERTY)
Of course, we’re all frustrated but 92 44/100 of us can express it in such a way that we don’t drive other posters away from the board during the games, and a number of them have said that has happened. It’s a social network where everybody should be respected.
If a blogger can’t take others into consideration and feels compelled to spew their vitriol post after post for hours on end, take it to the Braves vent board. Posters over there will be thrilled to read the same invective over and over again. I’m sure many here don’t want to read 50 posts per hour on how Bobby/Frank/Chipper/ etc ad nauseam sucks.
I don’t claim to be the behavior police nor restrict anyone’s so-called right to free speech, but I will claim the same right. And I don’t mind being hated.
Great points Nolie. I think it is very frustrating so far…but a couple wins…and a win of a series and we are back on track. Still need to figure out the bullpen…the offense has got to come around soon…too many good hitters to not score runs. But starting pitching has been good enough to win a lot of games for us so far.
we’re all mad and frustrated and nobody is saying not to post about it. I’m just asking not to turn the board into 4 solid hours of negativity with the same thing being posted over and over again.
Oh well enough for me tonight. I’m sure some will be thrilled with that.
How about Bobby calling it quits??????? He obviously cannot motivate this team!!!!!!! Does anyone else sense the obvious???? It is like a huge elephant in the room!!!!
Anyone wanna bet that Boog and Joe Simpson read this blog, especially during the offtime while on the road…? I bet that they might make some comments about a majority of the people on this blog who want to have Bobby C., Pendleton and McDowell get the Ax
Let’s not hit the panic button yet. Obviously the Braves aren’t as bad as they have played against the Pirates and Marlins. The lineup will improve once Chipper, Escobar, and McCann are healthy. The bullpen has already improved, especially with Boyer gone. My fear is that this will be another season filled with mediocrity. Wren obviously did a great job rebuilding the rotation but didn’t really address the line-up (with the exception of G. Anderson). I would have loved to see the Braves trade KJ for Ludwick, if that rumored deal was indeed on the table. That would have made 2 more spots in the line-up right handed (assuming Prado at 2nd base). Oh well. I just really hope this will all work out because it’s a long season.
Just want to take the opportunity at a low point to say that haters suck, Bobby Cox is God, and anyone who loves to wallow in a losing streak/year/half-decade or demeans our fanbase by using a public forum to vent b.s. cause they feel a little upset about a game that half of them probably just watched on a gamecast or saw the box score after can kiss my as$. Go Braves.
Esteemed Lou Vales writes: You guys are right. This is boring. The guy who heads this Blog for a soon to be defunct newspaper is talking about Van Morrison and Sunrise and A1A at 4:00 in the morning.
I believe it is really sad what is about to occur to major newspapers in america, BUT reading this crap negates most of my empathy.
Old Steve Hummer from the Palm Beach post used to write really well. Where has he gone?? Is he in charge of charting Nicholas cage projects??
The guy who heads this blog responds: It was about 11:30 p.m. when we mentioned Van Morrison, not 4 a.m. It’s closer to 4 a.m. now. Might be time to check batteries in that clock. And to consider broadening the palate. An artist such as Morrison (or, for that matter, a sandwich at Primanti Bros. at Sunrise and A1A) might do you a world of good, dilute some of that bitterness for an hour or two.
Steve Hummer worked at the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel (I worked with him there for a couple of years before he came to the AJC in the early ’90s.) No, he doesn’t chart Nic Cage products, he writes general-assignment sports takeout-type stories for our Sunday paper.
He does write really well — you had that one fact correct in your grand comment. Good night.
Thanks for the ongoing faithful coverage DOB, despite some stinking performances from the Bravos and even more putrid performances from some of our bloggers.
Not trading for Ludwick looks worse by the day as he continues his solid form from last year and our hitters continue to stink.
People who are getting on Anderson’s case need to remember this…he’s much like Texeira…a very slow starter and then heats up as the season gets going. Nevertheless, he’s not the big bat Frank Wren was promising all winter.
I agree with most on here that 11 games into the season is not a large enough sample to determine whether or not the Braves will contend for a championship in 2009, but if you look at the April standings over the past few years the Braves have shown that their start is a pretty good indicator of their finish: (April 2006 10-14 – final record 79-83; April 2007 16-9 – final record 84-78; April 2008 12-15 – final record 72-90; April 2009 5-6 – final record TBD. And sadly, even the one winning season over the past four years in 2007 only allowed the team to finish in 3rd place. True Brave fans have seen this movie before, and the ending, at least in recent history, is not good.
It’s simple. We have yet another addition of the BROKEN DOWN BRAVES. Anderson: arrives injured, misses most of spring injured, season starts injured again, can’t hit, injured. Chipper Jones: 2008 season, 2007 season, 2006 season, injured, injured, injured. The great bull pen: a total bust and players being released. Mr. Closer could not close for our local baseball team. Nope, thankfully football camps are near and season not long away. I know I will not be spending my money driving over to Atlanta to see a bunch of has beens, never was’, never gonna bees play. I’ll save the gas and money. I can watch the first two or three innings on TV, then when they are behind 7-0 after three, I can do something else. Thanks Braves, for another loser. And, NO, it is not too early.
Nolie is correct, many of Braves fans do not read the blog during the game when the Braves are losing.All the idiots take over spewing their hate and no intelligent person would be part of that.The Braves are not the team that started 5-1.Neither are they the team that lost the last 5.Somewhere between is our team and I still feel we have a playoff team.The real Braves do not give up,nor their fans.
Well, I for one expect my Braves to kick the crap out of the Pirates later on today, because a sweep at the hands of a baseball team which has not had one winning season in seventeen years is unacceptable.
Then we get the horrific Washington Nationals for three games. Sweeping them should cure what ails us.
As an avid fantasy player these guys are chess pieces to me. As McCann is my catcher the question is, will he play this coming week and if so will he hit?
Yes they are better than this, but ol’ mo mentum needs to kick in. When the BRAVES went from worst to #1 in ‘91 they looked like the FLORIDA MARLINS. The BRAVES don’t seem to have that swagger yet. When they do, they’ll win.
WHat is the record for most consecutive scoreless innings? are we going for the record today? This may be the only record we achieve this year so I hope the players give it their best shot.
Maybe that’s the approach the team should take today, Try NOT to score,(reverse phsychology) and in doing so, they will screw it up and score big time!
TnBrian (12:50 am): “By the way, where’s KC at? He’s actually a loyal, smart fan that has suddenly disappeared from the blog. He ususally rights positive things about our team, but lately…”
I believe KC’s been out writing wrongs, as is his wont.
Liberty Braves (12:52 am): “Im a Braves fan through and through”
(12:34 am): “Pope Benedict scores more than the Braves do!”
(12:37 am): “Yeah, . . . …get [Corky Miller ] away from a losing culture and he performs!”
(12:42 am): “The way the Braves are playing, the Nationals will sweep them. Remember,the Nats actually score runs and play with a little passion. I would rather have Manny Acta than Methuselah Cox anyday!”
It’s a bit puzzling why there’s been so much negativity on the blog the past several days. Anyone who follows baseball knows that players win ballgames, and we have had two (arguably three with Mac’s eye issue) big holes missing from our lineup in the past several games.
Maybe it’s the nature of things – I don’t know – but I wonder after a 90 loss season and three other good teams in our division this year, why everyone acts like the Braves were going to steamroll everybody. Why the high expectations? And why is it that these guys are expected to continue winning every game, even though there’s a huge hole in the offensive makeup of the club right now.
On a side note, did it occur to anyone that in addition to possibly overestimating the Braves, that perhaps many of us have underestimated the Pirates?
I don’t know a lot about baseball, but I do know that if and until our offense is back to full strength and we figure out over a longer stretch what’s up in the bullpen, it’s definitely unfair to attach championship caliber expectations to this ball club.
But I guess that comes part and parcel with people who, in their own smallness of mind and anonymity, can question the character and heart of others, and revel in the misery of people who are losing jobs — both on the diamond and in newsrooms.
18 Wheels: just another case of my absurd sleep patterns — happens in spring training, and also sometimes in hotels during season. you know, fall asleep, wake up with TV blaring and lights on, etc? Go to shut down computer, see the grandiose wisdom of vales, respond before turning off computer….
Bill (1:08 am): “Biggest factor in Braves slide? Management=Frank & Bobby. I’m a die hard fan but I believe the Braves will not make the play offs again with present Mgr and GM. Thats my opinion and its as good as the next know it all.”
No, it isn’t.
Not until you support your opinion with some facts and a little reasoning.
See below.
Dadgum (8:54 pm): “It all starts with the manager and GM.”
I’m glad someone pointed that out.
So what’s the GM’s job?
To get the manager the best personnel he can, within whatever constraints ($$$, contracts, farm) he has to work within.
Wren upgraded the rotation (Lowe, Vazquez, Kawakami), upgraded the bench (Ross), upgraded the outfield (Schafer, GAnderson) and relied on the presumably recovered Moylan, Soriano and Gonzalez to upgrade the bullpen.
And what is the manager’s job?
To best utilize the players he’s given — setting line-ups and making substitutions (plus in-game strategy, etc).
Is it the manager’s fault that the starting LF, the starting 3B, the starting catcher, the primary long reliever/spot starter are all injured in the first week or so? Is it the manager’s fault that some individual players (Boyer, Moylan, Gonzalez) have not yet met (pretty high) expectations?
You’re right — “It all starts with the manager and GM.”
But it doesn’t end there — the players then need to play up to their abilities.
Wren and Cox have done their jobs — it’s the players’ time now. And they have shown they can do it — remember their performance the first week of the season?
Well, in my opinion, you’re going to see more of that this season than you will see of the second week’s performances, assuming that the sick are healed and barring significant further injuries.
Those focusing on Pirates’ losing past might also consider they have the best ERA (2.63) and best starters ERA (2.65) in the NL — and by nearly a half-run in the first category and more than a half-run in the latter.
Only two of their 11 games have come against the Braves. So they’ve pitched their arses off against just about everyone. That said, Braves bats have stunk for two games, and their pitching unraveled again in late innings yesterday.
DOB, Do you think it’s time the Braves looked at getting rid of Roger McDowell? I know he obviously isn’t the one pitching out there, but he’s responsible for helping these guys correct there mistakes and to be quite honest so far it looks like nothing has changed from last year as far as late inning blow-ups go.
Fire Roger McDowell????? Why do fans always blame the coach and not the players? Roger is doing a good job (look at the development of JJ). Let’s blame the players themselves and not decide to fire a coach after 10 games this season.
No CB, according to “brian”, the players just don’t give a hoot about the fans…period! But, you’re right, there must be a balance in between. “ALL LIFE IS BALANCE”(Pat Morita;The Karate Kid,1984)
I gotta say, the only main concern I do have is McCann. We need to fix the problem. What ever he needs. Give him off and treat it with all measures, what ever it takes. McCann is not himself and we all noticed him rubbing the eye in middle of ABs.
I find it rather odd that correcting swing problems from several of our players including Andrew Jones, Jeff Francour, Kelly Johnson and now Jordan Shaeffer just to name a few can’t be accomplished without outside help. Ever since Pendelton came on board as the Braves hitting coach players have struggled to much that they have either been traded or become ineffective. How can a team justify the existence of a coach that players have so little faith in that they go to outside help for instruction. The braves had the most effective offense when Don Baylor was the hitting coach. How does Terry Pendelton keep his job? I know all you baseball experts out there will say…”these are professional players” they already know how to hit. BALONEY
I feel the same way. But I’m sure you guessed that already…
McCann is not himself and we all noticed him rubbing the eye in middle of ABs.
I also noticed him using eye drops sometime last week…I think it was against the Marlins. Didn’t think a whole lot of it at the time, though, ’cause I’d seen him use them past years…OK, maybe only last year.
But yeah, I hope they find the cause of this soon and get it fixed. I hate cringing whenever he comes up to bat.
Fire Cox, McDowell, and Pendleton. They have the ultimate responsibility for using what they have and it has not worked for the last 3 years and is following the same pattern this year.
Need to count up the number of suggestions, see who’s ahead among the fire McDowell, fire Pendleton, fire Cox, fire Wren and fire Liberty balloting. Probably pretty close….
Bobby’s Belly: If I was in the clubhouse, how would I be responding to you to let you know if any players are here yet? Thankfully, it’s not to the point where I’m frenetically typing blog posts from a blackberry in the clubhouse — not that the Braves would even let that happen. That would NOT be cool….
Headed down there now. Won’t be posting comments until I get back. Sorry, but that’s how it works.
They’re a little slower getting lineups out today. Was hoping to have it before left pressbox, but it’s not up here yet.
So we’ll make the half-mile trek down to the clubhouse … actually, not a half-mile, but seems like it here. This pressbox is at the very top of the stadium. Only this one and St. Louis are up this high, most are located in prime seats on second level, or lower.
Bro, seriously, that happened in 95. It was a domestic matter. No charges were filed. I guess to understand this type of thing you would have to actually date a girl or two. I’m not condoning wife battery, but this kind of thing happens all the time all over America. Are the two still married? Answer: yes
DOB- seems to me there is a fine line between being a players coach and being too nice/too easy on the players to where one cannot motivate the players and get the most out of the players. Bobby has obviously been a great players coach over the years but do you think he may be too easy on the players now? Or do you think the clubhouse personalities have changed enough where having the ultimate players coach does not work as well (no Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz to lead the team. For that matter no Pendleton as a player – being a coach does not count) as the players cannot motivate themselves. As I have said before there seemed to be a markedly different attitude amongst the players (except for Francoeur who was as jovial as ever) when I was there last week and that was before the last 4 games.
Unlike runs and hits and strikeouts, those matters do not appear as statistics in daily box scores. But just as they exist in society generally, they are found in sports. Except that when an athlete or a coach is accused of engaging in one of those pursuits, he attracts instant notoriety that isn’t always easy to shed, even if it is determined that he is not guilty.
Bobby Cox, the Atlanta Braves’ manager, finds himself in that position today. Arrested just before midnight Sunday at his suburban Atlanta home, Cox stands charged under Georgia’s domestic violence act with simple battery. He was accused of punching his wife, Pamela, and pulling her hair.
Because domestic violence has, in recent years, been revealed to be far more prevalent in society than previously known, it is fair to deduce that there are men in professional sports who beat their wives. That isn’t to say that Cox is one of them. He only has been charged, not convicted.
If Chipper is in the lineup today………???????? no reason to play hime 90%………let that hand heal for christs sake. 85-90% healed and he will be back on the bench before next weekend.
I saw your post as I surfed the Dead Season Scrolls. Brother nolie was tempted by the imp of the perverse and ventured into the Hidden Valley’s raunch for a dressing. Props to him for making that trek.
The Cox loving wife beaters on this blog think the last three years are great (STOP)
aha, there we go sports fans the first intelligent post of the day and by a brand new poster too. Thank you for that insight SDV, I’m sure we all appreciate it. You just can’t get that type of original cutting-edge observation anywhere else. Let’s give the newbie a big hand, I’m sure he will become a treasured addition to our little band of Braves fans.
N Nine’s idea is truly a splendid one…eventually, we’ll need to find Bobby’s replacement. Why not Fredi G. and Leo? Awesome! (Freddi still lives in the ATL, his kid plays at East Cobb…Leo’s always lobbying on the radio for a baseball job…a perfect fit.)
Chipper’s in lineup, Escobar and McCann are not. Escobar available off bench today, probably, and aiming to play tomorrow, according to Bobby Cox.
McCann’s out of lineup because he started using the ointment last night, which the doc said would make his vision blurry (or blurrier) the morning after he used it, and did. He’s using that at night before bed, and drops six times during the day.
Will probably know tomorrow or Tuesday whether he might need a Lask “adjustment” or whether this is something related to moisture in his eye more than the vision itself. He said the vision in his left eye definitely is at least slightly worse than after he had Lasik, but not being 20-20 wouldn’t necessarily mean he’d need Lask right now. The couple of dry spots he has in the eye could be causing the problem more than the vision, if that makes any sense.
Since there’s a lefty starting for the Pirates, how about they let Ross start, eh?
If not, I’ll say this once and for all–BMac, I won’t be watching, but it I won’t mind if you have a great day at the plate! Please don’t let your AVG slip below .200!
Bravos2249 – the blog is slow on my end also…but. I think its just fine. I’m not in a hurry to read/comment on Bobby beats his wife posts, or Chipper cheats on his wife posts. I hope the Braves turn this around so the personal attacks will stop and maybe..hmm..baseball might actually be discussed. Just a thought!
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ease19
April 18th, 2009
11:28 pm
Pizarro, the same can be said of Hudson, although probably not in to the same role.
ease19
April 18th, 2009
11:32 pm
DOB
If you are going to post something like that, please specify the channel so the drunkards (me) don’t have to try to read and follow the guide, which appear to be blurry…Thank you.!
PIZZARO
April 18th, 2009
11:36 pm
Ease19–That’s just it. The demands on Hudson would be greater than those on Wagner.
Random
April 18th, 2009
11:37 pm
ease19 — Thanks.
jimmy
April 18th, 2009
11:37 pm
Chipper has a great speech, motivates his team, then as always watches them play while he is in the dugout. For once lay it all out Chipper, make them carry you off the field- that would mean a lot more than words. A multi-million dollar part time player as usual
keylargo
April 18th, 2009
11:41 pm
We all know the time needed to rehab from a Tommy John surgery. I wouldn’t expect much.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2009/03/12/2009-03-12_mets_slow_down_billy_wagners_quick_recov.html
Steve from OH
April 18th, 2009
11:42 pm
I should point out that Hudson won’t be trying to throw 97 mph, either. But I don’t expect Hudson back as soon as some here would like, soo….
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
11:56 pm
Chop Chop, they’re getting a bat if they’re still in contention come July, maybe sooner. They have trade pieces with Kotchman and if Hanson is up and pitching well, more than enough pitching to trade a guy or two. Probably a pitching prospect with Kotchman.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
11:59 pm
We are already 5 out………..unreal………..not only need to start winning but lots of help before this gets uglier.
brent a.
April 19th, 2009
12:03 am
SoWeGaFanatic:
You are taking a logical approach for a player, and trying to apply it to fans who are simply analyzing games.
It doesn’t work.
If Kelly Johnson starts hitting again and plays great defense, then I could care less what he did the 2nd week of of April.
But, if Kelly continues to struggle, then his errors and missed offensive opportunities will continue to be a topic of conversation – just as his future success will be a topic of conversation when it occurs.
Wren is a tub of Goo
April 19th, 2009
12:11 am
Signs Garret Anderson. Objective- sign a veteran power hitting outfielder
Signs Glavine Objective- sign a veteran fifth starter, throws away smoltz
signs Kawakami Objective- sign a starter that bring experience to rotation
Extends Chopper Objective- Makeup with fans who feel robbed Smoltz left under the carpet
Extending Chopper shows how ignorant the GM reaally is. Everyone in the whole wide ferrrgin world knows he gets hurt, and now ladies and gents–he’s getting older..Keep cursing day by day for years to come because they show choppper chew on gum next to Balogna cox. This team is finished yet again.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
April 19th, 2009
12:19 am
Me thinks we shoulda let the season play out a little while before throwing that extension Chipper’s way. This team totally quits when he’s not in the lineup like some of my friends floating over here from Cuba did when a little water got in the hulled out ‘57 Chevy.
Lou Vales
April 19th, 2009
12:21 am
You guys are right. This is boring. The guy who heads this Blog for a soon to be defunct newspaper is talking about Van Morrison and Sunrise and A1A at 4:00 in the morning.
I believe it is really sad what is about to occur to major newspapers in america, BUT reading this crap negates most of my empathy.
Old Steve Hummer from the Palm Beach post used to write really well. Where has he gone?? Is he in charge of charting Nicholas cage projects??
Better sweep Wahington. Remember how bad they are.
Good Night Pete Rose wherever you are. Remember Fat Hank ALWAYS has your back. John “Boog” used to be fat, but has done a great job in the weight department and the announcing field. Beats the Hell out of his buddy Bob Wiechusen(Sp??). Remember when Fat Hank used to say the nice things about your mom?/ Those were the days!!!
Lou Vales
April 19th, 2009
12:29 am
Boog, You still listen to Uncle Neil and Phil Hendrie?? Atlanta radio really does stink–and you would admit to it. Be fun to have you hooked to a lie detector and inquire what you think of Buck and Kinkaid!!!I know what you think about the guy that has gone Big Time!!You really did mess up that source who had Spurrier going to New Orleans in the late 90’s. Man!! You were adamant about that. Did you REALLY think Pete didn’t bet on baseball or was that career motivated?/ You seemed way too smart to believe that. As long as you fed the Fat Man, he would believe anything. Remember when they called Joe Z “PK” and what it stood for?? Those were thr days.
Liberty Braves
April 19th, 2009
12:34 am
Pope Benedict scores more than the Braves do!
Liberty Braves
April 19th, 2009
12:37 am
Yeah, the thing about Corky Miller getting some hits and all…get him away from a losing culture and he performs!
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
12:37 am
once again why the suprise?
starters are better, but kelly, jeff, esco, diaz, kotchman, and schaffer, are somewhat how do you say average.
ease19
April 19th, 2009
12:39 am
Pizzaro – not necessarily, that would really depend on on Jo Jo, and the possiblilty of a Hanson call up before then. Baring no other injury, and with us in possible contention, Hudson would probably start out of the bullpen, regardless of what the naysayers will report.
Liberty Braves
April 19th, 2009
12:42 am
The way the Braves are playing, the Nationals will sweep them. Remember,the Nats actually score runs and play with a little passion. I would rather have Manny Acta than Methuselah Cox anyday!
Let the crucifixion of Liberty Braves begin!
TnBrian
April 19th, 2009
12:50 am
yeah yeah, and if we win tomorrow, or today, and take the series from Was. people will be back on the bandwagon. By the way, where’s KC at? He’s actually a loyal, smart fan that has suddenly disappeared from the blog. He ususally rights positive things about our team, but lately…
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
12:52 am
what does that oompa loompa in the dugout do? oh, fetch gatorade.
just wondering, he sure does not position his outfielders.
Liberty Braves
April 19th, 2009
12:52 am
Im a Braves fan through and through, but, dammit, people have a right to be frustrated! If people didn’t care, they wouldn’t come on here and bitch about it. Enough about bandwagon fans.
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
April 19th, 2009
1:05 am
I did not watch the game. So, I finally decided to check the play by play and what do I find?
Frigging madness.
The sixth inning.One out Intentional walk, LaRoche whiffs followed by a two out three run bomb from Craig Monroe.
The seventh inning. Two out Intentional walk to Adam LaRoche, and again, three run bomb from Craig Monroe.
The first three run bomb was off lefty Jo-Jo Reyes, and the second triple jack was off righty Buddy Carlyle. Meanwhile, Bobby Cox is playing match up games with his line up card instead of actually managing the game.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice , shame on me.
Bill
April 19th, 2009
1:08 am
Biggest factor in Braves slide? Management=Frank & Bobby. I’m a die hard fan but I believe the Braves will not make the play offs again with present Mgr and GM. Thats my opinion and its as good as the next know it all.
TnBrian
April 19th, 2009
1:09 am
Liberty, who isn’t frustrated? I agree, we have every right to protest this crap, but some people just whine and have no clue that it’s a looooonnnng season. Stop blaming Liberty Media! The Braves have/had more than enough money to put a winning team out there. Blame the coaches and players but L.M. is not trying to sink the Braves.
Miss Vicki
April 19th, 2009
1:14 am
Have the Braves designated hotel personnel to make sure Chipper’s bed is soft enough tonight? There should also be a valet to hold his thumb in place, Hopefully thre are no spouses or significant others on the trip. if some player was to have wrists tied to bed with nylon that could cause contusioins and result in more missed ganes.
Bill
April 19th, 2009
1:15 am
Spring Training doesn’t make a major league player. 6-8 wks and you beat someone out, BS it takes more time to prove yourselve. Jordon “how great thou are” wins job in ST? no AAA or ML exp. and they hand him the job..Damn joke!
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
1:16 am
by the way, our outfield or our first baseman have not hit a dinger since philly.
then again that stud kotchman has not gone deep all year.
Bill
April 19th, 2009
1:17 am
sorry about sp but I’m mad as hell.
Lou Vales
April 19th, 2009
1:21 am
Math time before bed–IF tyhe Marlins go 76-75 reat of the way they are 86-76. To go 86-76 the Braves must go 81-70–11 games over.500.
It’s NEVER early!!
Bill
April 19th, 2009
1:31 am
Lou its early Sunday morning and bed time. Agree never early Braves time. Good night.
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
1:42 am
two and a half years ago the braves made the decision to trade adam laroche.
all he did was hit .290, 32, and 90.
that was in less then 500 at bats.
we traded him because he was arb eligible, and our super genius cut back scouting department thought thor mighty god of thunder was ready to play 1st base.
sorry KC, dont see gonzo back here next year. the laroche trade set certain things in motion.
PENNY WISE POUND FOOLISH.
so we netted a guy slower then sid bream with comparable power to raphael belliard. aint kotch great?
MFin04
April 19th, 2009
1:49 am
Hope Chipper and Esco are back for tomorrow’s game. A little too early to panick…with our 2,3 and 4 hitters not being right so far. If they all can get healthy and be productive we’ll be fine. Esco and Prado have played well…along with Frenchy…so things could turn around quickly with a fully healthy lineup. It also helps that the Mets and Philles are also off to slow starts…not time to panic yet. Tomorrow/Today is a big game.
nolie
April 19th, 2009
1:49 am
Im a Braves fan through and through, but, dammit, people have a right to be frustrated! (LIBERTY)
Of course, we’re all frustrated but 92 44/100 of us can express it in such a way that we don’t drive other posters away from the board during the games, and a number of them have said that has happened. It’s a social network where everybody should be respected.
If a blogger can’t take others into consideration and feels compelled to spew their vitriol post after post for hours on end, take it to the Braves vent board. Posters over there will be thrilled to read the same invective over and over again. I’m sure many here don’t want to read 50 posts per hour on how Bobby/Frank/Chipper/ etc ad nauseam sucks.
I don’t claim to be the behavior police nor restrict anyone’s so-called right to free speech, but I will claim the same right. And I don’t mind being hated.
MFin04
April 19th, 2009
1:52 am
Great points Nolie. I think it is very frustrating so far…but a couple wins…and a win of a series and we are back on track. Still need to figure out the bullpen…the offense has got to come around soon…too many good hitters to not score runs. But starting pitching has been good enough to win a lot of games for us so far.
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
1:55 am
does any one really believe the braves will be four games over again?
serious question.
nolie
April 19th, 2009
1:56 am
sorry about sp but I’m mad as hell. (BILL)
we’re all mad and frustrated and nobody is saying not to post about it. I’m just asking not to turn the board into 4 solid hours of negativity with the same thing being posted over and over again.
Oh well enough for me tonight. I’m sure some will be thrilled with that.
A fan
April 19th, 2009
2:01 am
How about Bobby calling it quits??????? He obviously cannot motivate this team!!!!!!! Does anyone else sense the obvious???? It is like a huge elephant in the room!!!!
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
2:03 am
yeah, but then again kelly is a pure leadoff guy and a second baseman.
look no further then that comment.
he is neither. steaky average hitter that lacks fast twitch muscles that are required to play in the middle infield.
average player that does average to below average things defensively.
though he likes listening to that song ” your the best”
DOB will confirm that since he somewaht contributed to that SI thing.
Zookey
April 19th, 2009
2:09 am
Lou Vales
Self made man,BS radio host..
You are still a damn jerk…
uga-brave
April 19th, 2009
2:11 am
it could be worse,
you could be wang in manhattan.
Moby Grape
April 19th, 2009
2:13 am
UGA’s fast-twitch comment made me wonder where is PTBNL? I haven’t seen a post from him in a long while. He usually has some good input.
Tomahawkin
April 19th, 2009
2:18 am
Anyone wanna bet that Boog and Joe Simpson read this blog, especially during the offtime while on the road…? I bet that they might make some comments about a majority of the people on this blog who want to have Bobby C., Pendleton and McDowell get the Ax
Wayne in Utah
April 19th, 2009
2:26 am
Slingo is starting to sound better than the bs being spewed on the ole blog
Fred
April 19th, 2009
3:12 am
Let’s not hit the panic button yet. Obviously the Braves aren’t as bad as they have played against the Pirates and Marlins. The lineup will improve once Chipper, Escobar, and McCann are healthy. The bullpen has already improved, especially with Boyer gone. My fear is that this will be another season filled with mediocrity. Wren obviously did a great job rebuilding the rotation but didn’t really address the line-up (with the exception of G. Anderson). I would have loved to see the Braves trade KJ for Ludwick, if that rumored deal was indeed on the table. That would have made 2 more spots in the line-up right handed (assuming Prado at 2nd base). Oh well. I just really hope this will all work out because it’s a long season.
Scottbravesfan
April 19th, 2009
3:16 am
Please tell me Chipper will be in the lineup on Sunday.
Sir Stealth
April 19th, 2009
4:07 am
Just want to take the opportunity at a low point to say that haters suck, Bobby Cox is God, and anyone who loves to wallow in a losing streak/year/half-decade or demeans our fanbase by using a public forum to vent b.s. cause they feel a little upset about a game that half of them probably just watched on a gamecast or saw the box score after can kiss my as$. Go Braves.
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
4:45 am
Esteemed Lou Vales writes: You guys are right. This is boring. The guy who heads this Blog for a soon to be defunct newspaper is talking about Van Morrison and Sunrise and A1A at 4:00 in the morning.
I believe it is really sad what is about to occur to major newspapers in america, BUT reading this crap negates most of my empathy.
Old Steve Hummer from the Palm Beach post used to write really well. Where has he gone?? Is he in charge of charting Nicholas cage projects??
The guy who heads this blog responds: It was about 11:30 p.m. when we mentioned Van Morrison, not 4 a.m. It’s closer to 4 a.m. now. Might be time to check batteries in that clock. And to consider broadening the palate. An artist such as Morrison (or, for that matter, a sandwich at Primanti Bros. at Sunrise and A1A) might do you a world of good, dilute some of that bitterness for an hour or two.
Steve Hummer worked at the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel (I worked with him there for a couple of years before he came to the AJC in the early ’90s.) No, he doesn’t chart Nic Cage products, he writes general-assignment sports takeout-type stories for our Sunday paper.
He does write really well — you had that one fact correct in your grand comment. Good night.
Bravo Nam
April 19th, 2009
6:02 am
Thanks for the ongoing faithful coverage DOB, despite some stinking performances from the Bravos and even more putrid performances from some of our bloggers.
Not trading for Ludwick looks worse by the day as he continues his solid form from last year and our hitters continue to stink.
People who are getting on Anderson’s case need to remember this…he’s much like Texeira…a very slow starter and then heats up as the season gets going. Nevertheless, he’s not the big bat Frank Wren was promising all winter.
Chop It Up All-star
April 19th, 2009
7:08 am
I agree with most on here that 11 games into the season is not a large enough sample to determine whether or not the Braves will contend for a championship in 2009, but if you look at the April standings over the past few years the Braves have shown that their start is a pretty good indicator of their finish: (April 2006 10-14 – final record 79-83; April 2007 16-9 – final record 84-78; April 2008 12-15 – final record 72-90; April 2009 5-6 – final record TBD. And sadly, even the one winning season over the past four years in 2007 only allowed the team to finish in 3rd place. True Brave fans have seen this movie before, and the ending, at least in recent history, is not good.
Homer Simpson
April 19th, 2009
7:25 am
It’s simple. We have yet another addition of the BROKEN DOWN BRAVES. Anderson: arrives injured, misses most of spring injured, season starts injured again, can’t hit, injured. Chipper Jones: 2008 season, 2007 season, 2006 season, injured, injured, injured. The great bull pen: a total bust and players being released. Mr. Closer could not close for our local baseball team. Nope, thankfully football camps are near and season not long away. I know I will not be spending my money driving over to Atlanta to see a bunch of has beens, never was’, never gonna bees play. I’ll save the gas and money. I can watch the first two or three innings on TV, then when they are behind 7-0 after three, I can do something else. Thanks Braves, for another loser. And, NO, it is not too early.
CB
April 19th, 2009
7:37 am
Nolie is correct, many of Braves fans do not read the blog during the game when the Braves are losing.All the idiots take over spewing their hate and no intelligent person would be part of that.The Braves are not the team that started 5-1.Neither are they the team that lost the last 5.Somewhere between is our team and I still feel we have a playoff team.The real Braves do not give up,nor their fans.
Runnin
April 19th, 2009
7:47 am
I’ll 2nd that CB. We’ve already seem them very good, and very bad. Thing will level out soon. They are better than this.
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
April 19th, 2009
8:04 am
Well, I for one expect my Braves to kick the crap out of the Pirates later on today, because a sweep at the hands of a baseball team which has not had one winning season in seventeen years is unacceptable.
Then we get the horrific Washington Nationals for three games. Sweeping them should cure what ails us.
theriddler
April 19th, 2009
8:14 am
As an avid fantasy player these guys are chess pieces to me. As McCann is my catcher the question is, will he play this coming week and if so will he hit?
18 Wheels of Love
April 19th, 2009
8:30 am
Damn, DOB. Goodnight at 4:45? I would have guessed Good Morning.
richbrave
April 19th, 2009
8:31 am
Yes they are better than this, but ol’ mo mentum needs to kick in. When the BRAVES went from worst to #1 in ‘91 they looked like the FLORIDA MARLINS. The BRAVES don’t seem to have that swagger yet. When they do, they’ll win.
monty
April 19th, 2009
8:35 am
WHat is the record for most consecutive scoreless innings? are we going for the record today? This may be the only record we achieve this year so I hope the players give it their best shot.
Maybe that’s the approach the team should take today, Try NOT to score,(reverse phsychology) and in doing so, they will screw it up and score big time!
TnJeff04 (née mfinBrian321)
April 19th, 2009
8:44 am
TnBrian (12:50 am): “By the way, where’s KC at? He’s actually a loyal, smart fan that has suddenly disappeared from the blog. He ususally rights positive things about our team, but lately…”
I believe KC’s been out writing wrongs, as is his wont.
Random
April 19th, 2009
8:56 am
Liberty Braves (12:52 am): “Im a Braves fan through and through”
(12:34 am): “Pope Benedict scores more than the Braves do!”
(12:37 am): “Yeah, . . . …get [Corky Miller ] away from a losing culture and he performs!”
(12:42 am): “The way the Braves are playing, the Nationals will sweep them. Remember,the Nats actually score runs and play with a little passion. I would rather have Manny Acta than Methuselah Cox anyday!”
(12:52 am): “Im a Braves fan through and through”
Yes.
Of course.
We can see that.
NCBravesFan
April 19th, 2009
8:58 am
It’s a bit puzzling why there’s been so much negativity on the blog the past several days. Anyone who follows baseball knows that players win ballgames, and we have had two (arguably three with Mac’s eye issue) big holes missing from our lineup in the past several games.
Maybe it’s the nature of things – I don’t know – but I wonder after a 90 loss season and three other good teams in our division this year, why everyone acts like the Braves were going to steamroll everybody. Why the high expectations? And why is it that these guys are expected to continue winning every game, even though there’s a huge hole in the offensive makeup of the club right now.
On a side note, did it occur to anyone that in addition to possibly overestimating the Braves, that perhaps many of us have underestimated the Pirates?
I don’t know a lot about baseball, but I do know that if and until our offense is back to full strength and we figure out over a longer stretch what’s up in the bullpen, it’s definitely unfair to attach championship caliber expectations to this ball club.
But I guess that comes part and parcel with people who, in their own smallness of mind and anonymity, can question the character and heart of others, and revel in the misery of people who are losing jobs — both on the diamond and in newsrooms.
What a sad way to wake up every day.
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
9:02 am
18 Wheels: just another case of my absurd sleep patterns — happens in spring training, and also sometimes in hotels during season. you know, fall asleep, wake up with TV blaring and lights on, etc? Go to shut down computer, see the grandiose wisdom of vales, respond before turning off computer….
Random
April 19th, 2009
9:05 am
Bill (1:08 am): “Biggest factor in Braves slide? Management=Frank & Bobby. I’m a die hard fan but I believe the Braves will not make the play offs again with present Mgr and GM. Thats my opinion and its as good as the next know it all.”
No, it isn’t.
Not until you support your opinion with some facts and a little reasoning.
See below.
Dadgum (8:54 pm): “It all starts with the manager and GM.”
I’m glad someone pointed that out.
So what’s the GM’s job?
To get the manager the best personnel he can, within whatever constraints ($$$, contracts, farm) he has to work within.
Wren upgraded the rotation (Lowe, Vazquez, Kawakami), upgraded the bench (Ross), upgraded the outfield (Schafer, GAnderson) and relied on the presumably recovered Moylan, Soriano and Gonzalez to upgrade the bullpen.
And what is the manager’s job?
To best utilize the players he’s given — setting line-ups and making substitutions (plus in-game strategy, etc).
Is it the manager’s fault that the starting LF, the starting 3B, the starting catcher, the primary long reliever/spot starter are all injured in the first week or so? Is it the manager’s fault that some individual players (Boyer, Moylan, Gonzalez) have not yet met (pretty high) expectations?
You’re right — “It all starts with the manager and GM.”
But it doesn’t end there — the players then need to play up to their abilities.
Wren and Cox have done their jobs — it’s the players’ time now. And they have shown they can do it — remember their performance the first week of the season?
Well, in my opinion, you’re going to see more of that this season than you will see of the second week’s performances, assuming that the sick are healed and barring significant further injuries.
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
9:05 am
Those focusing on Pirates’ losing past might also consider they have the best ERA (2.63) and best starters ERA (2.65) in the NL — and by nearly a half-run in the first category and more than a half-run in the latter.
Only two of their 11 games have come against the Braves. So they’ve pitched their arses off against just about everyone. That said, Braves bats have stunk for two games, and their pitching unraveled again in late innings yesterday.
BravesFAN885
April 19th, 2009
9:33 am
DOB, does it look like Yunel will be back today?
JeffG
April 19th, 2009
9:34 am
DOB, Do you think it’s time the Braves looked at getting rid of Roger McDowell? I know he obviously isn’t the one pitching out there, but he’s responsible for helping these guys correct there mistakes and to be quite honest so far it looks like nothing has changed from last year as far as late inning blow-ups go.
Bobby's Belly
April 19th, 2009
9:38 am
Just read game story from yesterday. DOB, I’m guessing your camping out in the clubhouse right now? Any players arrive yet?
McFann Ô Ô
April 19th, 2009
9:40 am
Bravos2249–
Sweet!
McFann Ô Ô
April 19th, 2009
9:41 am
Oh crud. The Pirates have a lefty going today.
Anthony
April 19th, 2009
9:47 am
Fire Roger McDowell????? Why do fans always blame the coach and not the players? Roger is doing a good job (look at the development of JJ). Let’s blame the players themselves and not decide to fire a coach after 10 games this season.
Ben
April 19th, 2009
9:50 am
Bring back Leo!
TnBrian
April 19th, 2009
10:01 am
No CB, according to “brian”, the players just don’t give a hoot about the fans…period! But, you’re right, there must be a balance in between. “ALL LIFE IS BALANCE”(Pat Morita;The Karate Kid,1984)
N Nine
April 19th, 2009
10:03 am
I gotta say, the only main concern I do have is McCann. We need to fix the problem. What ever he needs. Give him off and treat it with all measures, what ever it takes. McCann is not himself and we all noticed him rubbing the eye in middle of ABs.
travis
April 19th, 2009
10:08 am
I find it rather odd that correcting swing problems from several of our players including Andrew Jones, Jeff Francour, Kelly Johnson and now Jordan Shaeffer just to name a few can’t be accomplished without outside help. Ever since Pendelton came on board as the Braves hitting coach players have struggled to much that they have either been traded or become ineffective. How can a team justify the existence of a coach that players have so little faith in that they go to outside help for instruction. The braves had the most effective offense when Don Baylor was the hitting coach. How does Terry Pendelton keep his job? I know all you baseball experts out there will say…”these are professional players” they already know how to hit. BALONEY
McFann Ô Ô
April 19th, 2009
10:26 am
N Nine–
I feel the same way. But I’m sure you guessed that already…
McCann is not himself and we all noticed him rubbing the eye in middle of ABs.
I also noticed him using eye drops sometime last week…I think it was against the Marlins. Didn’t think a whole lot of it at the time, though, ’cause I’d seen him use them past years…OK, maybe only last year.
But yeah, I hope they find the cause of this soon and get it fixed. I hate cringing whenever he comes up to bat.
18 Wheels of Love
April 19th, 2009
10:27 am
I completely understand the frustration with TP. There are enough instances for someone to have to shoulder the blame.
SOS
April 19th, 2009
10:31 am
Fire Cox, McDowell, and Pendleton. They have the ultimate responsibility for using what they have and it has not worked for the last 3 years and is following the same pattern this year.
Frankie Knuckles
April 19th, 2009
10:34 am
Zach Duke’’s ERA of .59 is daunting to say the least.
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
10:35 am
Need to count up the number of suggestions, see who’s ahead among the fire McDowell, fire Pendleton, fire Cox, fire Wren and fire Liberty balloting. Probably pretty close….
Bobby’s Belly: If I was in the clubhouse, how would I be responding to you to let you know if any players are here yet? Thankfully, it’s not to the point where I’m frenetically typing blog posts from a blackberry in the clubhouse — not that the Braves would even let that happen. That would NOT be cool….
Headed down there now. Won’t be posting comments until I get back. Sorry, but that’s how it works.
Frankie Knuckles
April 19th, 2009
10:38 am
Hey DOB, tell Chipper Frankie Knuckles says hello. just kiddin
- and drum roll
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
10:38 am
They’re a little slower getting lineups out today. Was hoping to have it before left pressbox, but it’s not up here yet.
So we’ll make the half-mile trek down to the clubhouse … actually, not a half-mile, but seems like it here. This pressbox is at the very top of the stadium. Only this one and St. Louis are up this high, most are located in prime seats on second level, or lower.
jcfromut
April 19th, 2009
10:48 am
If Chipper is in the lineup today (as he said he would be) could Prado be playing 1st, giving Kotch a rest against the LHP?
DOB: Do you know anything about Johnny Vetters? Could he be brought up to be another lefty in the pen?
Frankie Knuckles
April 19th, 2009
10:48 am
Bro, seriously, that happened in 95. It was a domestic matter. No charges were filed. I guess to understand this type of thing you would have to actually date a girl or two. I’m not condoning wife battery, but this kind of thing happens all the time all over America. Are the two still married? Answer: yes
Frankie Knuckles
April 19th, 2009
10:51 am
correction – charges were dismissed
brian
April 19th, 2009
11:16 am
DOB- seems to me there is a fine line between being a players coach and being too nice/too easy on the players to where one cannot motivate the players and get the most out of the players. Bobby has obviously been a great players coach over the years but do you think he may be too easy on the players now? Or do you think the clubhouse personalities have changed enough where having the ultimate players coach does not work as well (no Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz to lead the team. For that matter no Pendleton as a player – being a coach does not count) as the players cannot motivate themselves. As I have said before there seemed to be a markedly different attitude amongst the players (except for Francoeur who was as jovial as ever) when I was there last week and that was before the last 4 games.
STOP DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
April 19th, 2009
11:17 am
Alcohol, drugs, rape, domestic violence.
Unlike runs and hits and strikeouts, those matters do not appear as statistics in daily box scores. But just as they exist in society generally, they are found in sports. Except that when an athlete or a coach is accused of engaging in one of those pursuits, he attracts instant notoriety that isn’t always easy to shed, even if it is determined that he is not guilty.
Bobby Cox, the Atlanta Braves’ manager, finds himself in that position today. Arrested just before midnight Sunday at his suburban Atlanta home, Cox stands charged under Georgia’s domestic violence act with simple battery. He was accused of punching his wife, Pamela, and pulling her hair.
Because domestic violence has, in recent years, been revealed to be far more prevalent in society than previously known, it is fair to deduce that there are men in professional sports who beat their wives. That isn’t to say that Cox is one of them. He only has been charged, not convicted.
McFann Ô Ô
April 19th, 2009
11:18 am
They’re a little slower getting lineups out today. Was hoping to have it before left pressbox, but it’s not up here yet.
Oh, that figures.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 19th, 2009
11:19 am
If Chipper is in the lineup today………???????? no reason to play hime 90%………let that hand heal for christs sake. 85-90% healed and he will be back on the bench before next weekend.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 19th, 2009
11:22 am
hime = him
Couch Tater
April 19th, 2009
11:25 am
Parson,
I saw your post as I surfed the Dead Season Scrolls. Brother nolie was tempted by the imp of the perverse and ventured into the Hidden Valley’s raunch for a dressing. Props to him for making that trek.
security 20 yrs
April 19th, 2009
11:31 am
Bobby was drunk and she drop charges
nolie
April 19th, 2009
11:37 am
The Cox loving wife beaters on this blog think the last three years are great (STOP)
aha, there we go sports fans the first intelligent post of the day and by a brand new poster too. Thank you for that insight SDV, I’m sure we all appreciate it. You just can’t get that type of original cutting-edge observation anywhere else. Let’s give the newbie a big hand, I’m sure he will become a treasured addition to our little band of Braves fans.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from the clubhouse
April 19th, 2009
11:39 am
I’m the only one allowed to post from the clubhouse. However, i’m not in the mood for your questions.
Louis Prima
April 19th, 2009
11:39 am
N Nine’s idea is truly a splendid one…eventually, we’ll need to find Bobby’s replacement. Why not Fredi G. and Leo? Awesome! (Freddi still lives in the ATL, his kid plays at East Cobb…Leo’s always lobbying on the radio for a baseball job…a perfect fit.)
N Nine
April 17th, 2009
1:55 pm
Fredi Gonzalez/Leo Mazzone for 2010
Lawton
April 19th, 2009
11:40 am
Do you people remember that as late as July, last season, everyone in Philly was ready to run Charlie Manuel and staff out of town??
Its April 19th, people.
bravos2249
April 19th, 2009
11:41 am
Frdi is with the Marlins through 2010 please do some research
bravos2249
April 19th, 2009
11:42 am
Fredi*
is it just me or is the blog slow? must be too long?
David O'Brien
April 19th, 2009
11:43 am
Chipper’s in lineup, Escobar and McCann are not. Escobar available off bench today, probably, and aiming to play tomorrow, according to Bobby Cox.
McCann’s out of lineup because he started using the ointment last night, which the doc said would make his vision blurry (or blurrier) the morning after he used it, and did. He’s using that at night before bed, and drops six times during the day.
Will probably know tomorrow or Tuesday whether he might need a Lask “adjustment” or whether this is something related to moisture in his eye more than the vision itself. He said the vision in his left eye definitely is at least slightly worse than after he had Lasik, but not being 20-20 wouldn’t necessarily mean he’d need Lask right now. The couple of dry spots he has in the eye could be causing the problem more than the vision, if that makes any sense.
McFann Ô Ô
April 19th, 2009
11:44 am
Since there’s a lefty starting for the Pirates, how about they let Ross start, eh?
If not, I’ll say this once and for all–BMac, I won’t be watching, but it I won’t mind if you have a great day at the plate! Please don’t let your AVG slip below .200!
jbutler
April 19th, 2009
11:45 am
Bravos2249 – the blog is slow on my end also…but. I think its just fine. I’m not in a hurry to read/comment on Bobby beats his wife posts, or Chipper cheats on his wife posts. I hope the Braves turn this around so the personal attacks will stop and maybe..hmm..baseball might actually be discussed. Just a thought!