Braves sweep, swept … on to Steel City

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Random

April 18th, 2009
7:50 pm

monty (7:18 pm): “We suck! No one can get a hit or a dinker or infield hit with a runner in scoring position to save their life.”

Calm yourself, Grasshopper — the BABIP will fluctuate.

Right, Lew?

PS: Btw, it’s “by and large” — make a note of it, won’t you?

Road Runner

April 18th, 2009
7:53 pm

Do the Braves play Boston. The thought of a healthy Smoltz buzzing Chipper’s tower is a beautiful thing.

Mike Hancho

April 18th, 2009
7:53 pm

So far this yeas it’s the Braves same MO from last year. No one can get a hit when it matters.

JasonInFL (Formerly ME)

April 18th, 2009
7:53 pm

todd h , I mentioned Ohman because he had an RBI…something our offense hasn’t had for a while…

CB

April 18th, 2009
7:54 pm

I don’t mind the bloggers like Anders who are honest in their opinions and pick on the Braves fans with his digs.Hey, thats cool. The ones I can’t stand are the phonies who come on acting like they are really Braves fans.Most of the time they are obvious and just seen as trolls by the real fans.Go back under your rocks.

JasonInFL (Formerly ME)

April 18th, 2009
8:11 pm

Corky Miller just hit an RBI double…seriously, Corky Miller…

muffin

April 18th, 2009
8:13 pm

JO JO, IT WAS NOT SCHAFER’S FAULT U LOST THAT GAME, U HAVE NOT WON SINCE JUNE OF LAST YEAR DON’T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES, I SURE DON’T HEAR SCHAFER BLAME ANYONE BUT HIMSELF FOR HIS PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND MAKE A FEW MORE QUALITY PITCHES!!!!

Lew

April 18th, 2009
8:17 pm

Random-Absolutely. Their will always be a fluctuation in the BABIP if one has the patience to wait for it. Just listen to the sound of the BABIP fluctuating.

David O'Brien

April 18th, 2009
8:19 pm

Dave, if you have the desire for a Primanti’s sandwich, you have to go to Oakland or The Strip District… — Ron Paul’s Campaign

The one downtown Pittsburgh is about three blocks from my hotel.

I also used to go to the one in Fort Lauderdale all the time when I lived down there. It’s at Sunrise and A1A, right across the street from the ocean. Open 24 hours, that one. Used to be great people watching there at about 3-4 a.m.

Lew

April 18th, 2009
8:19 pm

Muffin-Do U dot UR I’s with Hearts?

Road Runner

April 18th, 2009
8:20 pm

If Chipper charged the mound after Smoltzie drilled him who do you think the rest of the Braves would get behind? Smoltz-Jones Smoltz-Jones. Chipper probably wins by a hair.

Lew

April 18th, 2009
8:21 pm

RoadRunner-I don’t know. Smoltz doesn’t have a right anymore.

1995

April 18th, 2009
8:23 pm

THE BAD

1. No bullpen
2. No power hitter
3. No manager
4. No team leader
4. No higher than 4th place again this season

THE GOOD

Im hoping this season will be all Bobby can take and walks away giving hope to winning Braves baseball again in the ATL!!!!

O'brien

April 18th, 2009
8:23 pm

I dont know if somebody posted this already, but check out these ERA’s (and I know it’s early, but still)…

Vazquez 4.50, Kawakami 5.25, Campillo 5.40
Gonzales 7.20, Reyes 7.94, O’Flaherty 8.10
Parr 9.0, Carlyle 9.53, Moylan 18.0
Boyer 40.50

Combine bad pitching with no offense, thats a recipe for disaster.

7

April 18th, 2009
8:26 pm

muffin pi#$ off.

nolie

April 18th, 2009
8:27 pm

your apology to the blog is accepted

no apology intended rien. . you need some discipline boy. I worked for years with punks like you in detention compounds. Guys who are constantly acting out to get attention. You are lucky that it’s the internet and i can’t get my hands on you. I’d love to get you down in the behavioral modification lab I used to have with the big batteries, dental equipment and the sopping wet towels. By golly when I got done punks sang a different song, you can believe that. they learned respect for their country and their fellow human beings. No more acting out looking for negative attention when I got through . C’mon down to my part of the country bub and introduce yourself, I guarantee you won’t think it’s an apology then, You feel lucky, punk?

nolie

April 18th, 2009
8:33 pm

Good rant by nolie, though (SCOOTS)

thanks my man. Just trying to give them a bit of that negative attention they try so hard for. Too many on this board ignore their emotional needs. Not me buddy. 8)

TnBrian

April 18th, 2009
8:35 pm

O’brien, you’re going a little overboard with stats this early on. No, that isn’t good but you’re just working yourself up and others with meaningless stats in the 2nd week of the season. I still say we finish 2nd and win the wild card. Call me crazy, but I don’t think Chipper misses much, if any, more time. McCann will bust out soon and Schafer is too talented to not correct himself. We’ll be alright…

Joe Pa Has His Marbles

April 18th, 2009
8:38 pm

Nolie, You never worked with Deion, Peter and the Date-Raping placekicker, Janikowski. Now there are some dudes who needed some shaping up. Bobby might also benefit from some electro-shock therapy to get those neurotransmitters working. Is that a cure for dementia, or only early onset dementia. That whole Bowden family is a smarmy group. Terry ripping up Auburn and making Bobby Louder all mad. Jeff making a fool of himself after the senile one got around the state nepotism laws. Tommy who looks like he would get the crap beat out of him by 14 year old girls at a pajama party. Steve, the son who took the old man for over a million and a half. And of course Bobby and Ann who should really not allow anymore cameras around that might get them on You Tube. The one of Bobby Bowden Pre-Game Pep Talk is really a hoot.

Smyrna Jim

April 18th, 2009
8:43 pm

I was pleased to see Clara Peller had some comments earlier, despite her apparent demise. I was wondering if she has discovered the answer to the age-old question “Where’s the beef?”

kirkinga

April 18th, 2009
8:44 pm

So I can have a little easier time finding posts to read, that don’t come off like a two-year-old in the grocery store denied a box of Cocoa Puffs.

scoots, that’s got to be the Comment Of The Day!

thanks for a good laugh in the midst of all the fury.

Kurdt Kobain

April 18th, 2009
8:48 pm

Guys it could be worse. We could be 6-6 and lose 22-4 in only the third game in our brand new stadium. Two days after losing 10-2 in the opener for the park… Yankees are so wise…

Stats are always inflated 2 weeks into the season. Bobby Cox isn’t incompetent. The offense can hit just fine and the starting pitching is excellent. The bullpen will come around.

It’s a long baseball season and there will be lots of ups and downs. You don’t have to declare the Braves champions after a winning streak and you don’t have to give up them and throw blame around after losing streaks.

Deep breaths, people.

Internet Tough Guy

April 18th, 2009
8:53 pm

I’m about tired of you. I’m a 6′5” Olympic power-lifter and street-fighting god. Don’t mess with me. Ron Paul 2012!

Dadgum

April 18th, 2009
8:54 pm

If this team gets swept by the Pirates on the heels of the Florida debacle you can bet your last dollar Bobby Cox will feel some heat from management. No question. It all starts with the manager and GM. TP may be the scapegoat.

Think about this you play the Bucs and score zero runs in two games after scoring a grand total of two against Florida. Make excuses if you want but you can’t sugarcoat this crap.

That new Chipper contract ain’t looking real good right now is it. Has the over/under moved to 100 games played yet?

Rock on…..

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
8:57 pm

Braves swept, swept…on to Capital City

Chipper's sometime girlfriend

April 18th, 2009
8:58 pm

It seems Chipper gives more than he receives if you ask me….

No he doesn’t.

Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)

April 18th, 2009
9:00 pm

“We’re all Major League players,” Braves second baseman Kelly Johnson said. “When you get shut out two games in a row, that’s unacceptable, regardless of who is in your lineup.”

KJ is correct. but still, with Chipper out (Hall of Fame bat), McCann ailing(All-star) and Escobar hurt ( All-star glove) losing will happen. It’s the back to back shut out’s at the hands of the lowly Pirates that has everybody ticked off, and eighteen innings of skunk ball should never occur.

Tomorrow will be very interesting that’s for damn sure.

MEB

April 18th, 2009
9:00 pm

Was that really a post by the esteemed Ugandan Journalist? One could only hope so. The MIB blog has been overrun by the worst kind of blog trash imaginable. Very difficult to scroll fast enough to avoid being being stained by the recent denizens who believe this to be Brave vent. Oh… the humanity!

Chipper is in bad need of some salve to ease the pain in his swollen opposable digit. McCann is not seeing the ball clearly and needs something stronger than Visine. Jordan looks like he needs a couple of chill pills. Worst case of trying too hard I’ve ever seen. Modern medicine may not have what ails these Bravos.

GO BRAVES!!!

Turtsnap

April 18th, 2009
9:01 pm

Kobain beat me to the punch :O) I know Steinbrenner is probably red hot right about now!!!

nolie

April 18th, 2009
9:05 pm

Would you like an invitation to my tailpipe? All you have to do is ask and have a nice pretty mouth

easy for you to say punk. c’mon down to S Fla and introduce yourself muffin. we’ll see how you behave after our little discussion boy. Now there, was that enough negative attention for your little bitty self-esteem, or do you need more? Just let me know, but don’t be so cowardly next time pansy.puss No guts no glory babycakes. Bah, I bet you drive an automatic too prolly with some sissied up tauilpipe no self-respecting idjit would be interested in. Prolly can’t even get it started without some sissy kinky key.

nolie

April 18th, 2009
9:08 pm

Hey LOU

how am I doing with the escalating posts buddy? I’m trying to get the hang of it. Funny that nobody on here sees themselves in the rants. I must not have it just right yet.

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
9:10 pm

wow nolie! Babycakes!!!

nolie

April 18th, 2009
9:13 pm

Nolie, You never worked with Deion, Peter and the Date-Raping placekicker, Janikowski JoePa

nope Joe I spent my time with sissy bloggers who can run their mouths behind a fake fake name. You know real cowardly dudes like you. Guys who mistakenly think they are smart but just need the right tutorin’ to turn their lives around and get on the right track. You’d thank me some day.

brian

April 18th, 2009
9:17 pm

First of all let me say that I am a lifelong Atlanta Braves fan. I do not think my grandfather missed a game (in person, TV, or radio) since they came to Atlanta until he passed away. I don’t think he missed too many Atlanta Cracker games either since he could tell us anything and everything about them too. I was even put in front of the TV for Hank Aaron’s famous home run to break Babe Ruth’s record even though I was a baby/toddler.

That being said, I am most disappointed in these Braves so far. Part of it, as the regulars here know (Thanks for making me feel better guys) is their utter disregard for the children and fans along the first row to the outfield side of the dugout on Wednesday and Thursday, and with the exception of Francoeur, the Braves ignored the fans at the gate as they got on the bus on Thursday after the game.

DOB – as I said earlier, I am most disappointed in Matt Diaz. It was so cool to have him on the blog and answer one of many questions. Part of the question involved signing autographs for fans, especially children like my son. He said something along the lines of the ebayers get annoying but they are always happy to sign for kids. After getting ignored by many, I was of course happy on Wednesday when Matt walked by. Me and my son called out to Matt – he waved his glove at us and just kept walking.

The Braves struck me as having an arrogant attitude. I cannot put my finger on it but I was not impressed with the way they handled themselves around the fans. This was even before Wednesday night’s loss or before Thursday’s game. Even the bullpen who all walked right by a similar group of children before Thursday’s game during allowed autograph time completely blew off the kids. Out of the team, the bullpen is the last group who should think of themselves as above it all. Buddy said there wasn’t enough time (the Marlins were signing like crazy on the 3rd base side). Bennett was the worst – he told the kids he would be back to sign after he warmed up a little knowing full well that in 15 minutes or so they would clear everyone out thereby getting the kids hopes up just to have them completely squashed when time was up and he never returned. The Braves have a job to do but part of their job depends on having loyal fans attend the games, watch the team on TV, and buy their merchandise. In 30+ years of going to games I have never seen such disgruntled children and adults and that was before actually watching them get their butts whooped.

This experience will stick with me for a while, especially with Matt Diaz and Bennett, but I have to wonder where these guys heads are out. My experience was before the sweep was finished by the Marlins and then they were shut out in back to back games by the Pirates. Even without Chipper and Escobar that should not happen.

I hope they have a team meeting and get their heads right. Start having fun out there. They just seemed like a miserable bunch even before these losses piled up. Go Braves

Schafer To Earth

April 18th, 2009
9:18 pm

Chipper is hurt. Escobar is hurt. McCain is fighting an eye problem. So are you trotting out your best lineup? No, but damn it, every team has injuries and the teams that have character fight through it and don’t wind up close to the cellar in a weeks time because of it.

This team has no character. Haven’t had anything that resembled character for a few years now. So who’s fault is that? Is it scouting? Is it talent? Is it coaching or managing?

This team is playing no differently than they have the last few years so I have to wonder what some of the bloggers here are seeing when they say it’s early yet and they will turn it around. Just tell me what you’ve seen about this team the last couple of years that seems to give you that kind of optimism? What looks different? Where is that magic bullet that is suddenly going to make the bad dreams go away? Starting rotation? Sure, a decent starting staff but if you can’t score runs and are going to depend on a leaking pen to save the game, you got problems and you aint gonna win squat!

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
9:22 pm

“McCain is fighting an eye problem”STE

Him too? Ya he’s getting old

jed

April 18th, 2009
9:26 pm

something about the braves bringing in washed-up veterans to play LF, eh? i’m getting that raul mondesi/ bobby bonilla/ brian jordan-revisited feeling all over again with garret anderson. he looks like he’s lost any interest in playing. what’s he hitting now? .176? and those 2 dropped balls the other night? that’s got nothing to do with his calf. he got to the ball fine, just didnt focus enough–twice in a row!–to catch the ball. i was in favor of signing him, but i’d make a determination about him soon and get on with things.

One Bad Pitch

April 18th, 2009
9:27 pm

“One bad pitch,” said Reyes,”

So if one bad pitch leads to 5 runs does two bad pitches lead to 10 runs?

nolie

April 18th, 2009
9:28 pm

I see that Milton Bradley has already been suspended for a few games , and that Nady has an undiagnosed sore elbow. We did good staying away from them and getting Garret.

W.T. Sherman

April 18th, 2009
9:29 pm

The braves line up doesn’t scare anyone……

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
9:32 pm

Schafer to earth, to pick on you more,(your name says it all)

I’m getting tired of reading…”This team has no character. Haven’t had anything that resembled character for a few years now”

You’re making this comment because of the last 5 games….not a week, not a month, but last FIVE games. Why don’t you open up last week’s blog and read all the positives “this is the best team in years” It’s a damn long season and we’re not mathematically out of this yet(last time I checked). Sure, It’s been ugly, but a loss is a loss.

What do you expect from a rookie, continuing to him .400? Be realistic dude….

CorkylikesBeer

April 18th, 2009
9:33 pm

Nolie…you are right Garret was a great pickup!

Dadgum

April 18th, 2009
9:34 pm

Brian….it is my experience that your player issues are more the norm than you might think. Unfortunate but true. You will have better luck after a winning streak.

Rock on…..

brian

April 18th, 2009
9:35 pm

schafer to earth – you are correct. This team has a lack of character and a lack of leadership.

It is only 11 games into the season so no reason to panic.

Frank from KS

April 18th, 2009
9:35 pm

Hey, at least being a Braves fan and living in Kansas….I can at least root for the Royals….(Lol)

McFann Ô Ô

April 18th, 2009
9:36 pm

JButler

Thank you. [sigh] Hard to be a good optimist right now…

Maybe two turtles will do the trick! Though it’s yet to be determined if we’ll be able to catch tomorrow’s game or not.

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
9:38 pm

McFann it looks like two giant eyes

nolie

April 18th, 2009
9:41 pm

McFann it looks like two giant eyes (N Nine)

that’s cause her hero Mac needs some ocular help right now. :(

Schafer To Earth

April 18th, 2009
9:43 pm

N Nine?

Have you been asleep for the last 3 years? That’s a few more than 5 games, Dude. I wasn’t sold on this team after last week. What we’ve seen the last five games from this team is what we’ve seen for at least the last 3 years. They hit for a few games and everyone declares the drought is over. Then, they fall into a funk for 10 days and struggle to score runs. This team has the same CORE cast of characters they’ve had for the last 3 (or more) years. Chipper, McCann, Frenchy, Diaz, KJ. Some new faces last year with Escobar and JJJ and Kotchman mid season. A few guys have left. A few guys have been added. My point is that until this unit faces adversity and rises to the occasion, how can anyone think they are the “real” thing? Tell me you haven’t seen the Braves pull this same act the last couple of years, not just in the last five games?

Geez, get real!

McFann Ô Ô

April 18th, 2009
9:47 pm

N Nine

Ho ho…yeah, it kinda does, actually. They’re a little too upset to come all the way out of their shells right now, though.

Nolie

He sure does… :(

CorkylikesBeer

April 18th, 2009
9:47 pm

The Braves hitters don’t do the fundamentals well….never get the runners over….we don’t play small ball well.

SOS

April 18th, 2009
9:50 pm

Your 4:48pm post was a masterpiece. I have been trying to say that same thing for years, but could not put it into words as good as you. Thank you.

BTW, NJ Braves. Stay in NJ please and just pull for the Yankees or somebody. We don’t need you defending Bobby Cox.

SOS

April 18th, 2009
9:51 pm

Sorry. Making reference to N8 4:48pm post.

TnBrian

April 18th, 2009
9:52 pm

brian, I go to Church and know very good Christian people. BUT, I know a few people that are Christians that don’t practice what they preach as well. I’m not saying Diaz is one of those people, but the people that seem too nice and approachable are sometimes the ones that are the complete opposite when you get to know them. I say backstabbers…

Coach, you said it all in a nutshell at 9:00…no Chipper, no Escobar and a Mac with a blurred eye equals bad news for the Bravos no matter how someone cuts it.

N Nine

April 18th, 2009
9:57 pm

Tell me you haven’t seen the Braves pull this same act the last couple of yearsSchafer To Earth

Well, if you want to get a pessimistic view of team , then yes. Sounds more like a managerial issue to me. We do lack a solid middle of lineup hitter-leadership. I still believe we’re going to be better than last season. If we get our young guns to mature in minors and add one power player, we’d be set, really! This could happen in 2010 or 2011

We’re not in the clubhouse next to the guys, and I’m sure it’s not positive right now, but once we get it going things change…it’s a long season, you can’t give up since we sucked before, That’s all.

PIZZARO

April 18th, 2009
9:57 pm

It’s still too early to take anything serious about the teams but it’s apparent that the Mets rotation(After Santana) needs to buckle down and keep the team in the game long enough to hand it over to the bullpen. The braves don’t possess a division winning line-up. The Phils will not repeat. The Marlins need to play this way for another 4-5 weeks to be taken seriously…….Still too early

bravos2249

April 18th, 2009
9:58 pm

DOB

Didn’t get a chance to catch the game today, thank God. Anyway, Can some of Schafer’s defensive alignment misplacement be placed of Frenchy? I know Chino is the bench coach, but essentially Frenchy is the only one out there, at least usually, who knows these hitters. Usually it’s the CF’s job but when the CF’s a rookie doesn’t that fall of the the next guy who knows the hitters the most?

TnBrian

April 18th, 2009
10:03 pm

PIZZARO, not gonna bash you, but in regard to you saying we don’t possess a division winning lineup might not be true. I say this because we haven’t had Chipper in EVERY loss we’ve had to this point, our catcher is struggling with a blurred eye, and…well, we lost with Escobar, but still. I’m not making excuses or whining, but I feel with those 3 guys at full strength and a few guys staying on course(KJ) the lineup should be fine.

bravos2249

April 18th, 2009
10:03 pm

lol

Cleveland hung 22 on the Yanks….and 8 on Wang in 1+….hah and WE think we got problems?

Smyrna Jim

April 18th, 2009
10:04 pm

Go Brad Lidge!

Kamal

April 18th, 2009
10:04 pm

Cox was sucessful when he that amazing pitching staff. It’s not a coincidence that the Braves have been lousy since the great ones disbanded. Yes, Cox was a good manager YEARS ago, but he’s still trying to use the same strategy for a game that has passed by. He’s too loyal, believes too much in the lefty/righty matchup and has lost too many games by not being able to manage the relievers when they come in. By that I mean letting them stay in too long, jerking them too soon for a school-book matchup that doesn’t work. As far as managers out there, I think there are plenty available, currently working as tv analysts and as assistant coaches (but not TP). Sometimes fresh blood does wonders.

bravos2249

April 18th, 2009
10:05 pm

LIDGE BLEW A SAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smyrna Jim

April 18th, 2009
10:05 pm

Lidge’s save streak ends at 47, then he gave up a 3 run homer.

Random

April 18th, 2009
10:08 pm

Dadgum (8:54 pm): “It all starts with the manager and GM.”

I’m glad someone pointed that out.

So what’s the GM’s job?

To get the manager the best personnel he can, within whatever constraints ($$$, contracts, farm) he has to work within.

Wren upgraded the rotation (Lowe, Vazquez, Kawakami), upgraded the bench (Ross), upgraded the outfield (Schafer, GAnderson) and relied on the presumably recovered Moylan, Soriano and Gonzalez to upgrade the bullpen.

And what is the manager’s job?

To best utilize the players he’s given — setting line-ups and making substitutions (plus in-game strategy, etc).

Is it the manager’s fault that the starting LF, the starting 3B, the starting catcher, the primary long reliever/spot starter are all injured in the first week or so? Is it the manager’s fault that some individual players (Boyer, Moylan, Gonzalez) have not yet met (pretty high) expectations?

You’re right — “It all starts with the manager and GM.”

But it doesn’t end there — the players then need to play up to their abilities.

Wren and Cox have done their jobs — it’s the players’ time now. And they have shown they can do it — remember the first week of the season?

Well, imo you’re going to see more of that this season than you will see of the second week’s performances, assuming that the sick are healed and barring significant further injuries.

Clap off . . .

Schafer To Earth

April 18th, 2009
10:08 pm

N Nine “Sounds more like a managerial issue to me.”

On THAT point, we agree totally! I believe the talent is there AND that it can be turned around. Bobby Cox will not be the one to turn it around. The guys may all be “men of character.” But they have no “competitive character.” Bobby isn’t a manager who is capable of that. Bobby can console them. Bobby can give them a hug when things are going badly. Bobby can find a pony under this pile of manure. But, Bobby can’t kick azz and take names and motivate players based on the fact that they are major leaguers and should be expected to perform like major leaguers.

PIZZARO

April 18th, 2009
10:11 pm

TnBrien–Even with the players you mentioned in the line-up it’s not an intimidating one. Chipper is going to miss his normal 25-40 games, that’s a give in. McCann is a cather that’s going to be bruised and batter as the season progresses. You’ll need others to step up and I just don’t think the braves have anyone else to do that.

HELIOS

April 18th, 2009
10:11 pm

Soooooo…. TennesseeBrain is a good christer, and these “others” are hypocrites.

What a bag of crap you are. What a backwardsass hillbilly dumbshyte you are.

Stick to what you do best. Sitting all day and night at a computer, smelling your farts, and trying to communicate something about baseball, of which you know nothing about.

Steve from OH

April 18th, 2009
10:21 pm

Minors Recap:

Rome (down 6-4, B8):

Randall Delgado threw 4 innings with 3H, 1ER, 3BB, 4K. Joel Campusano 2-4, Luis Sumoza 1-4, Gerardo Rodriguez 2-4 with a homer.

Myrtle Beach (L, 5-4):

Jason Heyward 2-3, 2B, BB. Fast Freddie Freeman 1-3, CS. Vintage Cody Johnson tonight, 1-4 with a homer and 3K. Jose Ortegano 4.1 IP, 4ER.

Mississippi (W, 6-3):

Gorkys 1-4, BB, Eric Campbell 2-5, 2B, Brandon Hicks 3-4, 2B. Ryne Reynoso gave up 3ER in 4.1 IP, Jeff Lyman goes 3.1 scoreless, 3K.

Gwinnett (down 7-4, B9):

Greg White 1-3, BB, Brandon Jones 1-3, BB, Barbaro Canizares 2-4. Todd Redmond 4.1 IP, 3R, 1ER, 0K. Frank Good got rocked, 2.2 IP, 4ER. Boone Logan was good with 1 scoreless, 2K. Luis Valdez also tossed a scoreless frame with a K.

TnJeff04 (née mfinBrian321)

April 18th, 2009
10:22 pm

brian (9:17 pm) –

The time to get autographs is before the game, crybaby, not after.

Y.A.I.

(”Go Braves”, indeed — you’re pitiful.)

McFann :Ô: :Ô:

April 18th, 2009
10:22 pm

LIDGE BLEW A SAVE?? Yes!!

There’s some news to brighten up our suddenly drab little baseball lives!

Night, all.

bravos2249

April 18th, 2009
10:24 pm

McFann

His era is like 9.45

bravos2249

April 18th, 2009
10:25 pm

OK the FISH are good but 5 of there 10 wins are against the Nats and we frickin SWEPT them.

brent a.

April 18th, 2009
10:27 pm

One more thing . . .

We have lost ground in the standings each of the last 5 days.

Think about that for a moment.

I know it’s early; but, not only are we on a five game losing streak, the 10-1 Marlins have won their last 6 games, pushing us further down each day.

This really has been about as bad a 5-game stretch as a team can have in April.

Tomorrow is important because we’ve gotta go to Washington with some reason to believe that we can actually score runs against a Major League team (which yes, Washington does still qualify as), because if we don’t, we might not scratch out a win there either.

BretBravo

April 18th, 2009
10:27 pm

I’ve never posted here and haven’t watched much of any Braves games in the last 5 years. But, I recently started watching Bobby’s team struggle and it is apparant that management is keeping some coaches around for loyalty. Pendelton was my favorite, he and Justice, but good players do not always make good teachers. Roger was a terrific pitcher–same story. Could be right, could be wrong.

Love Lowe and the Jurrjens kid a lot and think the pitching should hold up their end. Tom Hanson looks like an amazing future star. The pen just has the health issues, but most of them are immpressive if Bobby can keep them in a groove and not overwork them.

Chipper is Chipper but flukey injuries happen to this fella much to often. But, when you have an All-Star catcher, a soon-to-be All-Star SS, a guy like Francoeur, and a darn good bench, you should not get shut out from the Pirates. I’m sorry, but something is fishy in Braves Land and the lame old excuse that your best hitter is out is just that, an excuse. Manufacture some stinkin runs and apply pressure. Not once a week, every single game. That’s what seperates the men from the boys.

brian

April 18th, 2009
10:27 pm

Tn Jeff – get a clue – if you read the post and knew anything we were standing there for the autograph time and at the right place before the game – 2 hours prior to gametime until 1 hour prior to gametime both days and there were nothing.

And Nice guy Jeff – usually the best time is after the game at the players exits no matter which sport.

I see with your attitude you are very much in touch with these Braves.

brian

April 18th, 2009
10:28 pm

By the way Jeff – I would be pissed off if they just ignored me but to ignore my son is a different ballgame which you obviously do not understand

brian

April 18th, 2009
10:29 pm

by the way – loved the story on fluke Braves injuries. How did Klesko, Mr. SWAT team, pull a back muscle carrying a lunch tray what what the he$$ was on that lunch tray?

buzzmeat

April 18th, 2009
10:29 pm

So wheres this Facebook page that Jon Sciambi was talking about???

Chop Chop

April 18th, 2009
10:31 pm

Old school baseball game between the Royals and Rangers tonight. The Royals won, 2-0.

Zack Greinke scattered seven hits over nine innings (with 10 Ks) and pitched a shutout for the winners. Kevin Millwood was the hard luck loser, throwing a CG for the losers.

SoWeGa Fanatic

April 18th, 2009
10:31 pm

Many years ago when I played this wonderful game, the best lesson I ever learned was to put an error, a K, a loss, etc. behind me. You will never get a chance to fix the last one, focus on the next one.

I dare say most folks here either never played the game or were pretty poor players because they never learned that.

Fractured Logic

April 18th, 2009
10:32 pm

Ali was heavyweight champ. He should be fighting today if he wants to.

Jordan was the best who ever played in the NBA. He should suit up and play for the Knicks and take them to the championship.

Joe Montana won multiple super bowls, so if he wants to come out of retirement and lead the 49′ers, he should be given a shot.

Bobby Cox took the Braves to the playoffs for 14 straight years and won a World Series championship. He should be allowed to manage forever.

cabravesfan

April 18th, 2009
10:34 pm

Fractured Logic-

I know you were being sarcastic but Joe Montana would still be the best quarterback on the 49ers roster if he came back now

TnBrian

April 18th, 2009
10:34 pm

PIZZARO, you might be right. This is tough to predict because our hitters are so streaky aside from Chipper and Mac. What I think will happen is that Atl. will keep it’s head above water until early summer and get a power hitting 1st baseman. The pitching should keep us competetive until then.

SoWeGa Fanatic

April 18th, 2009
10:35 pm

Has anyone thought that these “lowly” Pirates may not be so lowly this year?

Still, two shutouts in a row from anyone is disappointing.

Fractured Logic

April 18th, 2009
10:39 pm

Ahh but SoWeGa Fanatic, simply putting the error, loss or K behind you without trying to learn from it means you’re doomed to repeat the error,loss and K.

Simply saying, “we’ll get ‘em tomorrow” does not translate into winning baseball games. If it did, the Braves would win 130 games a year!

Ain’t nobody in baseball better than Bobby Cox at saying, “shake it off, we’ll get ‘em tomorrow!”

Anthony

April 18th, 2009
10:41 pm

it’s only a matter of time before you guys realize how great of a manager bobby cox it. A bad manager does not lead their team to 14 straight division titles and world championship. It’s amazing how some people on this blog get so wrapped up in 5 straight losses they want to fire everyone associated with the organization.

Chop Chop

April 18th, 2009
10:42 pm

TnBrian,

That was the same reasoning behind the Tex trade. Good luck selling people on that.

TnJeff04 (née mfinBrian321)

April 18th, 2009
10:42 pm

You’re still a big crybaby in my book, brian.

(”Go Braves”, indeed — you’re a pitiful whiner.)

SoWeGa Fanatic

April 18th, 2009
10:46 pm

You don’t forget it, you do learn from it, but you move on or you are doomed to repeat it.

Tomorrow is another day. I never stepped onto a field that I didn’t expect to do well and to win. Any other attitude is defeatist. And as bad as the last 5 games have been, we should look forward to tomorrow . . . or find another pasttime.

PIZZARO

April 18th, 2009
10:57 pm

I have more bad news for NL East. Billy Wager is throwing and probably will be ready by the second half. Can you imagine Wagner, Putz AND K-Rod coming out of the bullpen.

Fractured Logic

April 18th, 2009
11:01 pm

SoWeGa Fanatic

I agree with the part where you say you never stepped on the field and didn’t expect to do well and win. This team doesn’t look that way. They play like they are waiting for someone else to come through with the big hit or someone else to make the big pitch.

When Pedro Guerrero first started playing 3rd for the Dodgers in the 70’s, he couldn’t seem to make a throw to second to start a double play. Steve Sax wasn’t much better because he couldn’t seem to make a throw to first. Lasorda finally asked Pedro what the hell he was thinking about when he was in the field. Pedro said he was praying when he was at 3B. Tommy wanted to know what he was praying for and Pedro said he prayed for 2 things, the first being that they don’t hit the ball to him.

Tommy then asked him,”what’s the other thing you pray for?”

Pedro: “That they don’t hit the ball to Sax.”

That sounds like this Braves team.

Steve from OH

April 18th, 2009
11:01 pm

Didn’t Wagner have his TJ in September? Yeah, he’ll be ready in July/August all right…

ease19

April 18th, 2009
11:03 pm

Shout outs too…

Random

Thank you for your 10:08pm post. I just wish that more people on the blog could show enough intelligence to be able to read…and comprehend what they read. There are just too many Monday morning quarterbacks on here that just really know nothing about baseball…period.

nscoots, nolie It’s nice when you guys get on and post some really worth while intelligent reading material. If not for guys like you, the blog would be worth reading.

TnBrian You say it how it is, nothing wrong with that brother!

ease19

April 18th, 2009
11:04 pm

scoots, nolie I meant not worth reading.

PIZZARO

April 18th, 2009
11:12 pm

Steve from OH–Anything the Mets can get from Wagner will be a big plus. It definitly could make a good bullpen a great one.

SoWeGa Fanatic

April 18th, 2009
11:12 pm

Fractured Logic, I know, but I have to keep the faith.

I remember the Pedro Guerrero story and still laugh about it.

Someone needs to take charge with these guys and be a real leader. Frankly, I’m having a hard time visualising who that would be.

Steve from OH

April 18th, 2009
11:14 pm

Pizarro, don’t count on the Mets getting anything significant from him is the point I’m trying to make…

Chop Chop

April 18th, 2009
11:18 pm

I think that the Sax/Guerrero stuff was in the early ’80s. I’m not too old (29), but I remember some of the Steve Sax saga. When I think of Lasorda and those Dodger clubs, NBC’s Saturday Game of the Week comes to mind. My memory seems to tell me that games back then were a lot better with Vin Scully and Joe Garagiola. I’d probably hate their guts now, but back then, I was a perfectly non-jaded kid.

ease19

April 18th, 2009
11:24 pm

SoWeGa Fanatic, I agree but you don’t really want your leader to be a part time player or journeyman, otherwise I would say Norton. The fact is however, other than Chipper, it is really McCann’s and Francoeur’s team. And since Francoeur is enjoying a bit of success lately, he should probably be the one to say “Come on guys, get your act together!”

David O'Brien

April 18th, 2009
11:25 pm

Van Morrison on Austin City Limits right now.

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