Bad news about Mac but you could tell he was struggling. Don’t know what is going on with our two angels, but some grown man needs to step up and pick up the slack. Only baby on this team is Schafer. The rest have been in the league long enough.
The Marlins claw their way back into games. They refuse to lose.
The Mets find a way to get a run and win a game.
The Braves just stand/sit there like cows on the way to the slaughterhouse. Hamburger wannabees. Oh, we don’t need to do anything ourselves. It’s our divine right to win the division every year so we just need to wait for things to fall into place. We are the Braves. The mighty mighty Braves. God owes us.
Marc D, thanks for letting us know what’s on the other blogs.
You might want to go back and read my comment at 11:52 a.m. on this blog, however. Bowman and I interviewed him at the same time.
And Bowman didn’t write that McCann IS going on the DL for a Lasik adjustment. As McCann said, that’s something he’ll have to think about if the drops don’t work. Right now, they don’t even know if his vision has changed since Lasik, if he even needs another procedure. Hasn’t been determined yet.
But thanks for your own interpretation of what Bowman wrote.
I’ve been wondering the same thing about ol’ Logan, Lew. Dude plays awfully shallow for a guy who hasn’t played in any of these parks. He has enough speed to come in on shallow fly balls.
LOL, you guys wanted Shafer so bad because his good spring. Guy had never been up past AA missed half the season compared to Anderson (hitting 300 w/detroit) had major league service and proved he can play.
KRod just got his 3rd save of the season………muts past us in the standings………santana is something like 0.46 ERA………
KRod is dominating, intimidating…………just like Gonzalez………….HAHAHA
Yeah. Not good, Efrim. Josh Johnson does get some props today for giving up 6 ER in the first two frames and still managing to pitch six innings. A lot of young guys can’t pull off that trick.
Chadihippo is responsible for positioning the defense. Just one more rotten egg that needs to hit the road, for good!
I know I’m not the only one here that is already getting that hopeless feeling for ‘09. We’ve seen this movie for 3 yrs. now, so I’m getting used to this sickening feeling. Believe me, there’s losing and they’re is getting your a** handed to you for 5 games in a row. Chipper might just have to suck it up or this mentally weak bunch might crack for good with a loss tomorrow.
DOB we need serious changes we have lost 5 straight our second baseman says a prayer everytime a ball is hit to him and our CF cant make contact let alone get a hit. LF is a mystery and 1st base is a joke. We have placed our season on an unproven 1st baseman an unproven CF and proven to be horrible (fielding) 2nd baseman. But NCN. (no change necessary)That is Bobbys motto NCN. It also seems o be yours if by chance you do reply rather than simply shooting down ideas please tell me what we should do about CF, NCN???????????????????
TNJeff (3:39 pm): “Serious question – early in game down 1-0 I think, did anyone else think possibly having Jordan bunt runner on first over to second & then hope Reyes could hit would have been a good idea. I know Reyes stuck out but perhaps he could have bunted too (how many outs were there stat boys?)”
Top 3rd, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 1 out, none on.
Top 5th, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 0 out, Prado on 1st; Ks into strike ‘em out, throw ‘em out DP (failed hit & run?); Reyes Ks.
Top 8th, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 0 out, Prado on 1st; flies to CF; Norton (PH) flies to CF; KJ grounds out 4-3.
Everyone who wants to spout off seriously about particular events in particular games should copy that URL, and tailor it appropriately (date, visiting team, home team). It’ll give you the pitch by pitch account, plus the boxscore, etc.
Do us all (as well as yourselves) a favor — otherwise your “hindsight” will be no better than 50-50 (hit and miss). Those are not good odds for being taken seriously.
Loaf, I think your comments are funny, but you’re bringing nothing but bad luck, so like T.P.,McDowell and Cadihippo… HIT THE ROAD AND DON”T COME BACK!
McCann, I’m worried about. Eyes are important in this game. Kotchman will be avg. (didn’t we know that?) Anderson is along for the ride (we should have known that.) Chipper – we don’t get what we’re paying for (again, again, again, and again), yet we still pay. Schafer will be a rookie (there will be good and bad – but I am calling for a slump buster tonight in DC.) This is a .500 team when all is said and done, but 2010-2013 will be fun. And yep, BC gotts to go.
Here’s a great idea… Let’s make a lineup with only two semi-power hitters. Let’s have one sit every 5 days to get time off and rest because he IS 25 and the other take 15 day DL stints every other month!!! Swell!!!!
But its early: You wrote that you didn’t think Lasik would send someone to the DL. Probably not, although Cox might put him there if he thought McCann might need to miss more than 4-5 games. Remember, however, that he didn’t even go on the DL when he had the concussion last year, just missed a week.
Of course, it doesn’t matter that no one covering the team has actually written that McCann will go on the DL, and McCann himself said only that if the drops don’t work, then in a few days he’d have to see what other options there are, including seeing whether his vision’s actually worsened and if he might need another Lasik surgery.
But that’s beside the point. Because a couple of our folks here who like to read one thing and exaggerate it, eliminate all gray areas and make things black or white, have read what Bowman wrote and somehow turned that into, Mac’s going on the DL for Lasik surgery. Period.
Unbelievable. Really, it is. He might end up having to do it. But he also might not have to do anything of the sort. It hasn’t even been determined whether his vision has changed, or if something is just causing the dryness in his eye.
I just read to Bowman what a couple of our bloggers here had twisted his words into, thanked him for starting the rumor that Mac’s going on the DL. He rolled his eyes.
By the way, since some missed my comment before noon on the subject after we talked to Mac before the game, and since my story’s not posted yet on the website, here it is:
Pittsburgh _ If things weren’t bad enough for the Braves, now their All-Star catcher is dealing with blurry vision in his left eye, cause unknown.
Brian McCann said he’s had dryness and poor vision in that eye since the opening series at Philadelphia, and still doesn’t know whether it’s from an irritant or if his vision has already changed since Lasik surgery in 2007.
“Either my eyesight’s changed, or I have a dry spot in my eye,” said McCann, mired in a 1-for-20 slump that’s dropped his average to .200. “I tried wearing contacts for a week and it didn’t work. Now I’ve got some antibiotic drops, and hopefully that will clear it up.”
If his vision has changed, he would probably another Lasik procedure. That could require him to miss games and possibly go on the 15-day disabled list. He saw an eye doctor in Atlanta last week, but tests were inconclusive.
McCann said he doesn’t want to think about the DL option yet, and will wait to see if prescription drops he started using Saturday morning would help. He said the eye felt the same during Saturday’s loss at Pittsburgh, when he went 0-for-3 with a walk and a game-ending strikeout.
McCann, a .297 career hitter before this season, said the problem has been more noticeable at night. He has a .167 average (4-for-24) in seven night games.
“I’m not going to sit here and make excuses,” he said. “I’m trying to fight through it.”
This team has no heart and no desire to win. Poor management and lousy ownership. How come when other teams do this bad, they fire the managers and coaching staff??? Why do the Braves refuse to fire Cox? He was good back in the day, but, those days are long gone!
SOS and teabag manifesto….Morons like you two are what’s wrong with baseball these days. Why does the blame go to the coaches, manager, and GM when they do not play the game?? How many at-bats does Frank Wren have this year? How many relief innings has Bobby pitched? What do you want from these guys?? Give me a credible answer, not some half wit attempt at humor, which it is obvious you’re both too dumb for. yeah I live in NJ, so what? I’m just as much of a Brave fan as either of you two. You think it’s easy supporting this team around here? Firing the manager is not the answer, no matter what you clowns say. How about somebody, anybody, steps up and sets an example by busting his azz and letting the others know that this is not acceptable. It’s amazing how so many people want to put blame on others, but no one has an answer for how to fix the problems.
TnBrian: After going back and reviewing your repeated (and I do mean repeated) comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that if this team were doing well, you’d have nothing much say, would you? By that I mean, you seem to really revel in their misfortune. Have you said whether you’re a fan of the Braves?
Yankees pitcher wang couldnt make it out of the 2nd innings……….indians leading 7-2. He heard some boooooooooos out from the crowd. Man are they feeling the pressure in the bronx. They are lucky that boston and TB have not playing up to their level yet.
I dont think Mc is gonna hit the DL……. they might be able to fix this problem with medication. It just takes time. People should understand that it is medication not magic.
One thing I have more knowledge of and wish I didn’t is eye problems. However, if I can get incredible treatment from some of the best eye Doctors around, then so can Mac. He’s right, though-sometimes you just have to keep on plugging and listen to what the Medical pros tell you to do. I’m sure they’ll get it taken care of.
I just got done with yard work and checked to see what time the game came on . I had no idea they played early today. I guess it’s good I missed it. 10-0….Wow! At least I did read where Boyer was sent packing. That’s a positive for us and hopefully him. I wish him luck, but his time here was way past done.
DOB, would a LASIK procedure really put McCann on the 15-day DL? I would only think that he’d be out a couple of days with that…my old man got it done a few years back and he told me he was able to go to work the next day…or is it something that would be more precautionary than anything?
Craig Monroe hits two three-run homers in a two-inning span against the Braves … in his second start of the season. Yes, he’s been a bench guy for the Buccos.
For me, its not hating the Braves, its about wanting them to do better.. It doesn’t help when you have a player like Chipper Jones who could sneeze and be out a significant amount of time.. It doesn’t help when your SS has stupid pre bat rituals that end up having him miss playing time.. It doesn’t help when your teams PC is as bad at getting results as McDowell is, and it doesn’t help when your teams manager can’t get the results from his players that other managers can get.. Bobby Cox is loved by the players because he is a player’s manager..
Lou Pinella doesn’t have the success that he has had for being a players manager.. He will tell his players what is on his mind regardless if it hurts their feelings and pisses them off or not.. Cox is to laid back, and thus is not getting the results from his players that eh should be getting.. I am just ready for a change from my favorite team.. The time has passed for guys like Bobby Cox, Roger McDowell, and Terry Pendleton IMO.. Our pitching has been awful since Mazzone left, and I wish he would be brought back.. TP was a great hitter in his playing days, but he to is not getting the results from his hitters that he should be getting..
I understand that Mazzone had the Smoltz’s, Maddux’s, and Glavine’s of the pitching world, but he could do better in my opinion with Lowe, Vasquez, Kawakami, Jurrgens, and whoever would take the 5th spot then what McDowell is doing.. He would also do a much better job with our bullpen then what McDowell is doing.. It’s rather simple, John Scheurholtz should shake things up as the teams President, and if that means firing Frank Wren, Bobby Cox, Roger McDowell, and Terry Pendleton, then so be it.. At least we were winning when Scheurholtz was our GM, and Mazzone was our PC.. I am just ready to see this team start winning on a consistent basis again and be respected instead of laughed at..
Steve-I think the biggeest problem would be an infection in his eye-that’s what they freak out about when they work on my eye. It could cause a delay in when he had lasik (if he needed to). They do NOT like to do any procedure if infection is present.
I just read to Bowman what a couple of our bloggers here had twisted his words into, thanked him for starting the rumor that Mac’s going on the DL. He rolled his eyes.</em? DOB
Bowman’s problem is that he’s a terrible writer. Really is. Before coming to this blog, I used to read every Bowman article, every day, for 2 seasons, and got anxiety getting through his articles. DOB, on the contrary, you and Carroll are by far more eloquent writers with greater accuracy in your statements.
I’m sure Bowman’s a great dude. I even have agreed with his opinions over the last 12 months, but that dude needs to learn how to write concisely, with better syntax, and with less redundant phrases such as “due to the fact that…” etc… Otherwise, I can’t blame people for turning his words into rumors, and I’ll just roll my eyes when I see that rumor originated from Bowman’s keyboard. Hopefully this is constructive criticism.
Exactly WHAT success that Lou Pinella has had are we talking about? Dude has had all of five Division Championships and one WS Championship. Bobby Cox has Fifteen and one.
“Efrim – It is always his fault. But only the losses. Never the wins.”C’s
Uh… no. See, you’ve got it backwards. MANY of the Cox-bashers, actually have respect for what Cox has done in the past. MANY of the Cox-bashers, get that he’s a good manager of “men” and their egos. But he doesn’t happen to possess great in-game strategy (if there is such a thing), he surely is one of the WORST managers in baseball at A)picking which guys to have in his bullpen, and B) choosing which situations to use such guys in.
I’m in this category. Why can’t a guy question the manager, AND have respect for him at the same time? Why can’t a guy appreciate all a manager has done in the past, AND wish he would step down to take the team in a new direction at the same time?
You’re DEAD WRONG. Some of us Cox-bashers, can accept that some of the good things that happen to this team are due to GREAT players (Maddux, Chipper, Glavine, Smolts, etc…) AND what Cox has done when he’s not dealt a full load to work with.
HOWEVER, it’s the Cox-LOVERS, that fail to admit that many of the losses are at Bobby’s hands. Either by A) Making poor in game decisions, B) Having the WRONG guys on the roster, C) Being too nice of a guy and not demanding success.
Now, by saying “demanding” success, I’m not saying that he should hold a team meeting or stand in the dugout and yell: “Hey Frenchy, you BETTER get a base hit….or else!” (while pointing at him and then shaking his fist).
What I’m saying is that whether these guys are rookies, 10 year vets or newly acquired free agents, with no past ties to the Braves or Bobby, that they should have to EARN their spot on the roster, and if their contract is too expensive to dump (since MLB contracts are guaranteed), then he shouldn’t compound a “bad contract” by continuing to play the guy.
Two examples. Andruw Jones. Dude SUCKED AZZ for the better part of a calendar year. Too expensive to release? Of course (unless you’re the Dodgers). Did he get benched? Nope. Just dropped in the order (one spot at a time) over the course of 3 months. Too little. Too late.
How about Francoeur last year? Dude is suposed to be the Chosen One, The Golden Child, The Local Hero, and as the famous SI cover said, The NATURAL. He had one of the WORST years in MLB history for a guy that played in over 150 games. Did he get sent down to the minors to get fixed (since the plan at the time was to have him be a cornerstone of the franchise for years to come)?? Yeah. For two FRICKING days!!
The Atlanta Braves have turned into baseballs “Good Ol’ Boys Club”. Once you’re in….you’re in. It might take an act of congress to get Bobby off his azz to do what the average Joe could see needs to be done.
Has anybody thought that Schafer might, JUST MIGHT, take a more disciplined approach if put in the leadoff spot, where he would be asked (on a normal team) to just make contact and use his speed to get on?
Just don’t give me the statement that the Cox-bashers want to blame Bobby for the losses, and praise only the players for the wins. When it EASILY goes the other way as well.
In EVERY other profession and sport (and every other MLB City), the manager is held accountable for wins and losses (whether that’s fair or not). Take a look at the managers that have gotten fired in the past two years and tell me which ones faired any worse than Bobby’s Braves. At some point ownership has to hold him accountable.
It’s time for a change. If for nothing else, for just change.
A question to ponder…….. When even the radio announcers for the Braves make a comment that “you can sure tell a difference in the Braves when Chipper IS in the lineup, and when he isn’t.”, why aren’t the Braves addressing the problem?? It isn’t like Chipper missing games is just happening. And with his age, there isn’t much time left with Chipper.
I have had Lasik and while most people can function fairly normally the day after surgery, you are told not to engage in heavy physical activity for two weeks. You are on anti-inflamatory and antibiotic drops during this time while your eye heals up. You have to be careful not to rub or hit your eyes or get any water or sweat in them. So McCann probably would have to go on the DL if he were to have the surgery during the season only because of the restrictions on physical activity.
“Maybe all of this means that things will change in baseball and for the braves once april is gone.”
Yeah. That theory worked really well the last three years.
“Does all this has anything to do with climate changes? Nah…..Its COX”
I think you have a little truth there that you didn’t realize you stated. Having Bobby manage the Braves makes every team in the NL EAST a little better. (It’s a JOKE people).
I still say…..get someone like Bobby Valentine. He was always a *In-your-face-type* manager and would possibly get the guys to play up to their potential and with more heart to boot.
Hey, but atleast I am a proud owner of Braves tix for games in June, July, Aug and September. With the exception of the tix I have for 7/17 when they retire Maddux number, I must say that I am a FOOL once again this year for getting all hog-wild excited early in the season for a pathetic looking Braves team.
That was everything that I have been feeling but unable to put into words. Very, very good post. We do need change. Like I said in an earlier post, other teams make changes when the status quo doesn’t cut it anymore.
Can someone please tell me (without the sarcasm) why management won’t gently ask Cox to step down.
It’s good to see N8 is already in mid-season form. You’re exactly right N8, same Sh!t, different year. I do a Mark Bowman eye roll every time I read your rants during a losing streak, because I know you’ll be loving life again during the next 3 game win streak. Wait, let me say it before you do: “You’re assuming, brewdawg, that this team will HAVE another 3 game win streak, which I for one doubt very much!”
SO!!!! We have a guy with enough GUTS to be standing in against Major League pitchers because he wants to “Tough it out”, BUT that is not the story. NO!!!! The story is about how a Blogger misinterpreted a trainer. And you guys have the sheer audacity to say that I’m nuts.
McCann is facing fastballs, breaking balls and if he loses one, he may be dead–as in Ray Chapman dead—but let’s complain about the Blogger.
If Jones watches this display of guts(and craziness!!) and remains anchored tomorrow, those players should FINALLY GET IT!!
BravesfanfromBirth (4:38 pm): “For me, its not hating the Braves, its about [loving to say hateful or ignorant stuff about them. Like].. It doesn’t help when you have a player like Chipper Jones who could sneeze and be out a significant amount of time.. It doesn’t help when your SS has stupid pre bat rituals that end up having him miss playing time.. It doesn’t help when your teams PC is as bad at getting results as McDowell is, and it doesn’t help when your teams manager can’t get the results from his players that other managers can get.. Bobby Cox is loved by the players because he is a player’s manager..
“[And I should know -- I've been a Braves' fan almost ten years.]
Actually Pirates and Fish are 1 and 2 on ERA in all the majors. So maybe once we leave them behind things will chance…….Im trying to be positive here……..
“Watching the Yankees get crushed is actually therapeutic.” (Dixie Dawg)
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m doing and for that reason. How about Thursday, the first game in their new stadium?
Starting the highest paid pitcher in baseball ……161 million dollars
Playing the game in the most expensive stadium …1 1/2 billion dollars
Losing to a 2-7 team, 10-2 ………………….. Priceless
DOB, actually, I’m a huge fan of the Braves. Why am I getting singled out in the first place? There have been vicious attacks on some players that I take up for, like a kid(Schafer) that’s lost at the plate but is making defense mistakes that you yourself has said he couldn’t catch half the balls he tracks to the wall. That I say something about. I guess though, most of us could cool it down a bit on something we have no control over.
This team is flat pitiful, and it was obvious before game one. A combination of bad play and bad announcing makes this product unwatchable. Chip Caray is an embarrassment to humanity. He’s such a pitiful homer it’s ridiculous. I can’t watch for more than 30 seconds without hearing him display a complete and utter lack of intelligence. Example: McCann whiffs on Shafer’s throw from center field, and they appropriately score it an error on McCann. Caray rants wondering why the error was on McCann. You’re an idiot, Caray. Take your sad act back to Chicago. If we had Sutton in the TV booth instead of Caray, at least I would enjoy the announcing.
nolie, the guy who comes to mind is Grant Green, a SS from USC. The scouting report says good range and good arm, power bat, and lots of room to fill out. He has made a few errors this season, and he could definitely move to 3B if needed (it may end up that way anyway, but I think he can be at least an average SS). It’s doubtful he’ll fall to us, though, even though he has struggled a bit this season.
Other than him, the pickins’ are slim, for all position players in the first round. BA has Green at no. 2, Dustin Ackley (1B, UNC) at no. 3., Donavan Tate at no. 6, and then it’s a huge dropoff to the next 3B infield prospect at no. 30, Bobby Borchering, who is a switch hitter with “plus power from both sides of the plate.” The only other corner infield prospect in between is Rich Poythress, 1B out of UGA, who has hit very well this season and moved up the draft board considerably.
At no. 7 on BA’s draft board is Alex White, a righthander out of UNC.
Hope you get better soon, dude. Sucks to hear about that.
Why am I getting singled out in the first place? (TnBrian)
yeah I noticed last night than TnJeff was talking most of the trash and you were catching the heat from UGA. Course he mighta just been too drunk to notice the difference. Hey even TooBusy? took up for you. Still has a crush on you I guess even if you have cut way down on the cursing.
I didn’t catch this, so sorry to possibly repeat a question – how long before we know if Boyer cleared waivers? There was a story in the Denver Post today about Rox looking for BP help. Just curious if he’s worth gambling on. Hope the Boyer bashing stops- it was awfully mean spirited…
Hey McFann – Maybe two turtles will work? Thanks for the good vibes..always nice to have you around.
nolie, the guy who comes to mind is Grant Green, a SS from USC. The scouting report says good range and good arm, power bat, and lots of room to fill out. He has made a few errors this season, and he could definitely move to 3B if needed (it may end up that way anyway, but I think he can be at least an average SS). It’s doubtful he’ll fall to us, though, even though he has struggled a bit this season (Steve)
yeah I know a little about him and that he is not expected to last til the 7 slot. doesn’t sound too good for us having a chance. looks like a pitcher or best available talent I guess. Thanx for the info.
To be really honest, I don’t see us drafting Green or Tate because I think they’ll both be taken before we pick. So that leaves us drafting another arm, which is never a bad thing. We’ve got a ton of arms at A/A+ and at AAA to deal from if we ever need to fill another need. Can never draft too many top-of-the-rotation types! But if Green is available when we pick, I do think that he’ll be the best player on the board, so we should definitely snag him.
So I guess, according to Lou Vales, Roberto Clemente was a dog like Chipper in his 30s. George Brett as well. Eddie Mathews was a bum. Ty Cobb, bum as well, ’cause the Peach, after all missed an average of 35 games or so a year after the age of 30.
nolie, it’s alright. DOB has every right to speak his mind and keep some of us in check. We all need it and we’re fortunate to have the guy keeping us up to date on out guys. The positive side is that Chipper and Escobar might be back tomorrow and Vazquez is pitching, so we’ll see. Of course Jeff looks like he’s back for good!
If so, my lineup: 1-Escobar 2-Diaz 3-Chipper 4-Franc. 5-Mac 6-KJ 7-Kotch. 8-Schafer
I’m sure this has been touched on here in DOB-ville, but here’s a perspective on the Braves’ 15 year run.
Take a young, healthy Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine and what most years was a number 2 quality 4th starter.Subtract the top 4 starters from any playoff team in a given year and add those guys to the roster.What would their odds be of winning the WS ? With the possible exception of a Yankee team or 2 they would go WAY UP.What does this say for our 1 title in those years ? I’m just throwing out a way of viewing things, no conclusions.
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But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
3:47 pm
csg,
You really think that is Mc goes DL this offense will be weaker?
Lets see………..what could be weaker than not scoring a run?
We might be star-less but not weaker………
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
April 18th, 2009
3:47 pm
Lew, good point…who is responsible for positioning the D?
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
We might get star-less but not weaker………
Jake W.
April 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
Bad news about Mac but you could tell he was struggling. Don’t know what is going on with our two angels, but some grown man needs to step up and pick up the slack. Only baby on this team is Schafer. The rest have been in the league long enough.
teabag manifesto
April 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
BOBBY COX MUST GO!
The Marlins claw their way back into games. They refuse to lose.
The Mets find a way to get a run and win a game.
The Braves just stand/sit there like cows on the way to the slaughterhouse. Hamburger wannabees. Oh, we don’t need to do anything ourselves. It’s our divine right to win the division every year so we just need to wait for things to fall into place. We are the Braves. The mighty mighty Braves. God owes us.
Mixxo
April 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
I’m changing up my “Braves watching regimen.” Starting tomorrow, I’m watching every game, until we win,…..nekkid!
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
3:50 pm
JasonInFL (Formerly ME),
I think that would be Cox and the team captain (chipper) and maybe bench coach.
Frankie Knuckles
April 18th, 2009
3:52 pm
To the Anti-Bobby folks out there. How would we replace him with? Serious question.
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
3:52 pm
Marc D, thanks for letting us know what’s on the other blogs.
You might want to go back and read my comment at 11:52 a.m. on this blog, however. Bowman and I interviewed him at the same time.
And Bowman didn’t write that McCann IS going on the DL for a Lasik adjustment. As McCann said, that’s something he’ll have to think about if the drops don’t work. Right now, they don’t even know if his vision has changed since Lasik, if he even needs another procedure. Hasn’t been determined yet.
But thanks for your own interpretation of what Bowman wrote.
Chop Chop
April 18th, 2009
3:53 pm
I’ve been wondering the same thing about ol’ Logan, Lew. Dude plays awfully shallow for a guy who hasn’t played in any of these parks. He has enough speed to come in on shallow fly balls.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from BottomsUp
April 18th, 2009
3:54 pm
N Nine @ 1:44
Sorry buddy, I don’t have a clue about anything.
Efrim
April 18th, 2009
3:54 pm
Wow, it could be worse. You could be Joel Hanrahan……
Soon to be former closer of the Nationals…
Josh Anderson Fan!
April 18th, 2009
3:54 pm
LOL, you guys wanted Shafer so bad because his good spring. Guy had never been up past AA missed half the season compared to Anderson (hitting 300 w/detroit) had major league service and proved he can play.
Idiot move by Wren and you spring stat lovers!
Frankie Knuckles
April 18th, 2009
3:55 pm
errr… Who would we replace him with?
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
3:55 pm
KRod just got his 3rd save of the season………muts past us in the standings………santana is something like 0.46 ERA………
KRod is dominating, intimidating…………just like Gonzalez………….HAHAHA
SOS
April 18th, 2009
3:56 pm
Frankie Knuckles. A mop would do better.
Chop Chop
April 18th, 2009
3:57 pm
Yeah. Not good, Efrim. Josh Johnson does get some props today for giving up 6 ER in the first two frames and still managing to pitch six innings. A lot of young guys can’t pull off that trick.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
3:57 pm
I dont think Lasik would sent anyone to the DL……..would it?
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
3:57 pm
Chadihippo is responsible for positioning the defense. Just one more rotten egg that needs to hit the road, for good!
I know I’m not the only one here that is already getting that hopeless feeling for ‘09. We’ve seen this movie for 3 yrs. now, so I’m getting used to this sickening feeling. Believe me, there’s losing and they’re is getting your a** handed to you for 5 games in a row. Chipper might just have to suck it up or this mentally weak bunch might crack for good with a loss tomorrow.
nolie
April 18th, 2009
3:58 pm
Hey the bruises on Ms Cox don’t lie, Bobby is still alive TnJeff
guy last night was right. you are a jackass.
The Wren and Stimpy Show
April 18th, 2009
3:59 pm
DOB we need serious changes we have lost 5 straight our second baseman says a prayer everytime a ball is hit to him and our CF cant make contact let alone get a hit. LF is a mystery and 1st base is a joke. We have placed our season on an unproven 1st baseman an unproven CF and proven to be horrible (fielding) 2nd baseman. But NCN. (no change necessary)That is Bobbys motto NCN. It also seems o be yours if by chance you do reply rather than simply shooting down ideas please tell me what we should do about CF, NCN???????????????????
Random
April 18th, 2009
3:59 pm
TNJeff (3:39 pm): “Serious question – early in game down 1-0 I think, did anyone else think possibly having Jordan bunt runner on first over to second & then hope Reyes could hit would have been a good idea. I know Reyes stuck out but perhaps he could have bunted too (how many outs were there stat boys?)”
Serious answer — http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_04_18_atlmlb_pitmlb_1&mode=gameday
Top 3rd, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 1 out, none on.
Top 5th, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 0 out, Prado on 1st; Ks into strike ‘em out, throw ‘em out DP (failed hit & run?); Reyes Ks.
Top 8th, 1-0 — Schafer comes up with 0 out, Prado on 1st; flies to CF; Norton (PH) flies to CF; KJ grounds out 4-3.
Everyone who wants to spout off seriously about particular events in particular games should copy that URL, and tailor it appropriately (date, visiting team, home team). It’ll give you the pitch by pitch account, plus the boxscore, etc.
Do us all (as well as yourselves) a favor — otherwise your “hindsight” will be no better than 50-50 (hit and miss). Those are not good odds for being taken seriously.
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
4:00 pm
Loaf, I think your comments are funny, but you’re bringing nothing but bad luck, so like T.P.,McDowell and Cadihippo… HIT THE ROAD AND DON”T COME BACK!
Frank from KS
April 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
The season over yet?
(ROTFL) :>)
Mixxo
April 18th, 2009
4:02 pm
….and Tex goes deep for the second day in a row ….
teabag manifesto
April 18th, 2009
4:05 pm
BOBBY COX MUST GO!
Millions of hard-working Americans have been laid off but Bobby Cox keeps collecting oversized paychecks for DOING NOTHING.
Like the chumps at AIG he is getting a big paycheck for failing miserably.
Bobby's Belly
April 18th, 2009
4:09 pm
McCann, I’m worried about. Eyes are important in this game. Kotchman will be avg. (didn’t we know that?) Anderson is along for the ride (we should have known that.) Chipper – we don’t get what we’re paying for (again, again, again, and again), yet we still pay. Schafer will be a rookie (there will be good and bad – but I am calling for a slump buster tonight in DC.) This is a .500 team when all is said and done, but 2010-2013 will be fun. And yep, BC gotts to go.
Bobby's Belly
April 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Whoops, slump buster tonight in PIT (never travel for a slump buster!)
Chuck James was Solid until the 6th!!!
April 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Here’s a great idea… Let’s make a lineup with only two semi-power hitters. Let’s have one sit every 5 days to get time off and rest because he IS 25 and the other take 15 day DL stints every other month!!! Swell!!!!
Ben
April 18th, 2009
4:12 pm
Bhe Braves’ bullpen just seems to be like hitting practice for other teams. That is when they get the ball over the plate. Bring back Leo!
teabag manifesto
April 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
BOBBY COX MUST GO!
Cox is a manual typewriter in a PC world. It may be charming but it doesn’t get the work done.
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
4:19 pm
But its early: You wrote that you didn’t think Lasik would send someone to the DL. Probably not, although Cox might put him there if he thought McCann might need to miss more than 4-5 games. Remember, however, that he didn’t even go on the DL when he had the concussion last year, just missed a week.
Of course, it doesn’t matter that no one covering the team has actually written that McCann will go on the DL, and McCann himself said only that if the drops don’t work, then in a few days he’d have to see what other options there are, including seeing whether his vision’s actually worsened and if he might need another Lasik surgery.
But that’s beside the point. Because a couple of our folks here who like to read one thing and exaggerate it, eliminate all gray areas and make things black or white, have read what Bowman wrote and somehow turned that into, Mac’s going on the DL for Lasik surgery. Period.
Unbelievable. Really, it is. He might end up having to do it. But he also might not have to do anything of the sort. It hasn’t even been determined whether his vision has changed, or if something is just causing the dryness in his eye.
I just read to Bowman what a couple of our bloggers here had twisted his words into, thanked him for starting the rumor that Mac’s going on the DL. He rolled his eyes.
By the way, since some missed my comment before noon on the subject after we talked to Mac before the game, and since my story’s not posted yet on the website, here it is:
By DAVID O’BRIEN
dobrien@ajc.com
Pittsburgh _ If things weren’t bad enough for the Braves, now their All-Star catcher is dealing with blurry vision in his left eye, cause unknown.
Brian McCann said he’s had dryness and poor vision in that eye since the opening series at Philadelphia, and still doesn’t know whether it’s from an irritant or if his vision has already changed since Lasik surgery in 2007.
“Either my eyesight’s changed, or I have a dry spot in my eye,” said McCann, mired in a 1-for-20 slump that’s dropped his average to .200. “I tried wearing contacts for a week and it didn’t work. Now I’ve got some antibiotic drops, and hopefully that will clear it up.”
If his vision has changed, he would probably another Lasik procedure. That could require him to miss games and possibly go on the 15-day disabled list. He saw an eye doctor in Atlanta last week, but tests were inconclusive.
McCann said he doesn’t want to think about the DL option yet, and will wait to see if prescription drops he started using Saturday morning would help. He said the eye felt the same during Saturday’s loss at Pittsburgh, when he went 0-for-3 with a walk and a game-ending strikeout.
McCann, a .297 career hitter before this season, said the problem has been more noticeable at night. He has a .167 average (4-for-24) in seven night games.
“I’m not going to sit here and make excuses,” he said. “I’m trying to fight through it.”
Dixie Dawg
April 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
This team has no heart and no desire to win. Poor management and lousy ownership. How come when other teams do this bad, they fire the managers and coaching staff??? Why do the Braves refuse to fire Cox? He was good back in the day, but, those days are long gone!
Frankie Knuckles
April 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
You Anti-Cox people need to reinforce your argument with an alternative or shut up.
njbraves
April 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
SOS and teabag manifesto….Morons like you two are what’s wrong with baseball these days. Why does the blame go to the coaches, manager, and GM when they do not play the game?? How many at-bats does Frank Wren have this year? How many relief innings has Bobby pitched? What do you want from these guys?? Give me a credible answer, not some half wit attempt at humor, which it is obvious you’re both too dumb for. yeah I live in NJ, so what? I’m just as much of a Brave fan as either of you two. You think it’s easy supporting this team around here? Firing the manager is not the answer, no matter what you clowns say. How about somebody, anybody, steps up and sets an example by busting his azz and letting the others know that this is not acceptable. It’s amazing how so many people want to put blame on others, but no one has an answer for how to fix the problems.
Loaf Garret on a blackberry from BottomsUp
April 18th, 2009
4:25 pm
TNBrian
Has it really come down to blaming the blog for the loss?
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
4:29 pm
TnBrian: After going back and reviewing your repeated (and I do mean repeated) comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that if this team were doing well, you’d have nothing much say, would you? By that I mean, you seem to really revel in their misfortune. Have you said whether you’re a fan of the Braves?
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:30 pm
Yankees pitcher wang couldnt make it out of the 2nd innings……….indians leading 7-2. He heard some boooooooooos out from the crowd. Man are they feeling the pressure in the bronx. They are lucky that boston and TB have not playing up to their level yet.
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
April 18th, 2009
4:30 pm
I just got home from practice, WOW! What to say. Back to back shut out’s at the hands of the lowly Pirates.
This season has gone south in a hurry.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:32 pm
DOB,
I dont think Mc is gonna hit the DL……. they might be able to fix this problem with medication. It just takes time. People should understand that it is medication not magic.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:33 pm
9-2 indians……..
Lew
April 18th, 2009
4:34 pm
One thing I have more knowledge of and wish I didn’t is eye problems. However, if I can get incredible treatment from some of the best eye Doctors around, then so can Mac. He’s right, though-sometimes you just have to keep on plugging and listen to what the Medical pros tell you to do. I’m sure they’ll get it taken care of.
Jackie Moon
April 18th, 2009
4:34 pm
I just got done with yard work and checked to see what time the game came on . I had no idea they played early today. I guess it’s good I missed it. 10-0….Wow! At least I did read where Boyer was sent packing. That’s a positive for us and hopefully him. I wish him luck, but his time here was way past done.
Steve from OH
April 18th, 2009
4:36 pm
DOB, would a LASIK procedure really put McCann on the 15-day DL? I would only think that he’d be out a couple of days with that…my old man got it done a few years back and he told me he was able to go to work the next day…or is it something that would be more precautionary than anything?
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:36 pm
I would let TP manage the Braves, could he be worse than Cox? who could?
No team, I repeat, NO TEAM has a losing streak larger than 2 games………..but the braves (5).
Now that is horrible.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:37 pm
And I mean in the majors.
David O'Brien
April 18th, 2009
4:37 pm
Craig Monroe hits two three-run homers in a two-inning span against the Braves … in his second start of the season. Yes, he’s been a bench guy for the Buccos.
Chop Chop
April 18th, 2009
4:38 pm
Hermida with a three-run blast in the 11th to put the Marlins up, 9-6.
BravesfanfromBirth
April 18th, 2009
4:38 pm
For me, its not hating the Braves, its about wanting them to do better.. It doesn’t help when you have a player like Chipper Jones who could sneeze and be out a significant amount of time.. It doesn’t help when your SS has stupid pre bat rituals that end up having him miss playing time.. It doesn’t help when your teams PC is as bad at getting results as McDowell is, and it doesn’t help when your teams manager can’t get the results from his players that other managers can get.. Bobby Cox is loved by the players because he is a player’s manager..
Lou Pinella doesn’t have the success that he has had for being a players manager.. He will tell his players what is on his mind regardless if it hurts their feelings and pisses them off or not.. Cox is to laid back, and thus is not getting the results from his players that eh should be getting.. I am just ready for a change from my favorite team.. The time has passed for guys like Bobby Cox, Roger McDowell, and Terry Pendleton IMO.. Our pitching has been awful since Mazzone left, and I wish he would be brought back.. TP was a great hitter in his playing days, but he to is not getting the results from his hitters that he should be getting..
I understand that Mazzone had the Smoltz’s, Maddux’s, and Glavine’s of the pitching world, but he could do better in my opinion with Lowe, Vasquez, Kawakami, Jurrgens, and whoever would take the 5th spot then what McDowell is doing.. He would also do a much better job with our bullpen then what McDowell is doing.. It’s rather simple, John Scheurholtz should shake things up as the teams President, and if that means firing Frank Wren, Bobby Cox, Roger McDowell, and Terry Pendleton, then so be it.. At least we were winning when Scheurholtz was our GM, and Mazzone was our PC.. I am just ready to see this team start winning on a consistent basis again and be respected instead of laughed at..
steve_97060
April 18th, 2009
4:40 pm
GO Yankees…. Yanks gettin killed…
zmerk13
April 18th, 2009
4:40 pm
Yeah, that is really embarrassing. Who knew Monroe was such a threat?… oh wait…he isn’t….
Lew
April 18th, 2009
4:42 pm
Steve-I think the biggeest problem would be an infection in his eye-that’s what they freak out about when they work on my eye. It could cause a delay in when he had lasik (if he needed to). They do NOT like to do any procedure if infection is present.
Mixxo
April 18th, 2009
4:43 pm
Think we got it bad right now?
Yanks are getting a good smackdown from the Indians….14-2 in the top of the 2nd.
Chop Chop
April 18th, 2009
4:43 pm
Two TD passes from Brady Quinn in the second inning have the Indians up, 14-2.
Dixie Dawg
April 18th, 2009
4:44 pm
Frankie,
The alternative is Ned Yost. The alternative is using the players in a wiser manner. There’s your alternative. BOOYA!
Bobby's Cox
April 18th, 2009
4:46 pm
I just read to Bowman what a couple of our bloggers here had twisted his words into, thanked him for starting the rumor that Mac’s going on the DL. He rolled his eyes.</em? DOB
Bowman’s problem is that he’s a terrible writer. Really is. Before coming to this blog, I used to read every Bowman article, every day, for 2 seasons, and got anxiety getting through his articles. DOB, on the contrary, you and Carroll are by far more eloquent writers with greater accuracy in your statements.
I’m sure Bowman’s a great dude. I even have agreed with his opinions over the last 12 months, but that dude needs to learn how to write concisely, with better syntax, and with less redundant phrases such as “due to the fact that…” etc… Otherwise, I can’t blame people for turning his words into rumors, and I’ll just roll my eyes when I see that rumor originated from Bowman’s keyboard. Hopefully this is constructive criticism.
Lew
April 18th, 2009
4:47 pm
Exactly WHAT success that Lou Pinella has had are we talking about? Dude has had all of five Division Championships and one WS Championship. Bobby Cox has Fifteen and one.
Bobby's Cox
April 18th, 2009
4:47 pm
How ironic, my last post.
N8
April 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
“Efrim – It is always his fault. But only the losses. Never the wins.” C’s
Uh… no. See, you’ve got it backwards. MANY of the Cox-bashers, actually have respect for what Cox has done in the past. MANY of the Cox-bashers, get that he’s a good manager of “men” and their egos. But he doesn’t happen to possess great in-game strategy (if there is such a thing), he surely is one of the WORST managers in baseball at A)picking which guys to have in his bullpen, and B) choosing which situations to use such guys in.
I’m in this category. Why can’t a guy question the manager, AND have respect for him at the same time? Why can’t a guy appreciate all a manager has done in the past, AND wish he would step down to take the team in a new direction at the same time?
You’re DEAD WRONG. Some of us Cox-bashers, can accept that some of the good things that happen to this team are due to GREAT players (Maddux, Chipper, Glavine, Smolts, etc…) AND what Cox has done when he’s not dealt a full load to work with.
HOWEVER, it’s the Cox-LOVERS, that fail to admit that many of the losses are at Bobby’s hands. Either by A) Making poor in game decisions, B) Having the WRONG guys on the roster, C) Being too nice of a guy and not demanding success.
Now, by saying “demanding” success, I’m not saying that he should hold a team meeting or stand in the dugout and yell: “Hey Frenchy, you BETTER get a base hit….or else!” (while pointing at him and then shaking his fist).
What I’m saying is that whether these guys are rookies, 10 year vets or newly acquired free agents, with no past ties to the Braves or Bobby, that they should have to EARN their spot on the roster, and if their contract is too expensive to dump (since MLB contracts are guaranteed), then he shouldn’t compound a “bad contract” by continuing to play the guy.
Two examples. Andruw Jones. Dude SUCKED AZZ for the better part of a calendar year. Too expensive to release? Of course (unless you’re the Dodgers). Did he get benched? Nope. Just dropped in the order (one spot at a time) over the course of 3 months. Too little. Too late.
How about Francoeur last year? Dude is suposed to be the Chosen One, The Golden Child, The Local Hero, and as the famous SI cover said, The NATURAL. He had one of the WORST years in MLB history for a guy that played in over 150 games. Did he get sent down to the minors to get fixed (since the plan at the time was to have him be a cornerstone of the franchise for years to come)?? Yeah. For two FRICKING days!!
The Atlanta Braves have turned into baseballs “Good Ol’ Boys Club”. Once you’re in….you’re in. It might take an act of congress to get Bobby off his azz to do what the average Joe could see needs to be done.
Has anybody thought that Schafer might, JUST MIGHT, take a more disciplined approach if put in the leadoff spot, where he would be asked (on a normal team) to just make contact and use his speed to get on?
Just don’t give me the statement that the Cox-bashers want to blame Bobby for the losses, and praise only the players for the wins. When it EASILY goes the other way as well.
In EVERY other profession and sport (and every other MLB City), the manager is held accountable for wins and losses (whether that’s fair or not). Take a look at the managers that have gotten fired in the past two years and tell me which ones faired any worse than Bobby’s Braves. At some point ownership has to hold him accountable.
It’s time for a change. If for nothing else, for just change.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
SD is at 1st place
Marlins……..1st place
Mariners…………1st place
Royals……..1st place
TB and Redsox in the cellar
Brewers in the cellar
Angels in the cellar
Maybe all of this means that things will change in baseball and for the braves once april is gone.
Does all this has anything to do with climate changes? Nah…..Its COX
TnJeff04 (formerly mfinBrian321)
April 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
But its early…….LOL(Doc H.) (4:36 pm): “I would let TP manage the Braves, could he be worse than Cox? who could?”
DAMM WHITE!!!
PLUS, he certainly couldn’t do any worse as a manager than as a hitting coach!!! Who could???
McFann Ô
April 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
Thanks for the story, Chief!
Gotta go. Might be back later.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
4:54 pm
Hermida goes deep again (just like monroe)……3 run jack………marlins lead 9-6
Turtsnap
April 18th, 2009
4:54 pm
A question to ponder…….. When even the radio announcers for the Braves make a comment that “you can sure tell a difference in the Braves when Chipper IS in the lineup, and when he isn’t.”, why aren’t the Braves addressing the problem?? It isn’t like Chipper missing games is just happening. And with his age, there isn’t much time left with Chipper.
TnJeff04 (formerly mfinBrian321)
April 18th, 2009
4:54 pm
I love all the Braves except for whoever Donkey Cox is stupid enough to let play.
Interested Observer
April 18th, 2009
4:55 pm
I have had Lasik and while most people can function fairly normally the day after surgery, you are told not to engage in heavy physical activity for two weeks. You are on anti-inflamatory and antibiotic drops during this time while your eye heals up. You have to be careful not to rub or hit your eyes or get any water or sweat in them. So McCann probably would have to go on the DL if he were to have the surgery during the season only because of the restrictions on physical activity.
teabag manifesto
April 18th, 2009
4:55 pm
“Maybe all of this means that things will change in baseball and for the braves once april is gone.”
Or maybe it means that the ones who once were first will later be last for the times they are a changin’.
And the times have passed Bobby Cox bye. Time to put away childish things and time for childish men to go bye bye.
BOBBY COX MUST GO.
N8
April 18th, 2009
4:56 pm
“Maybe all of this means that things will change in baseball and for the braves once april is gone.”
Yeah. That theory worked really well the last three years.
“Does all this has anything to do with climate changes? Nah…..Its COX”
I think you have a little truth there that you didn’t realize you stated. Having Bobby manage the Braves makes every team in the NL EAST a little better. (It’s a JOKE people).
Frank from KS
April 18th, 2009
4:57 pm
I still say…..get someone like Bobby Valentine. He was always a *In-your-face-type* manager and would possibly get the guys to play up to their potential and with more heart to boot.
Turtsnap
April 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
Hey, but atleast I am a proud owner of Braves tix for games in June, July, Aug and September. With the exception of the tix I have for 7/17 when they retire Maddux number, I must say that I am a FOOL once again this year for getting all hog-wild excited early in the season for a pathetic looking Braves team.
nolie
April 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
Back to back shut out’s at the hands of the lowly Pirates. (Coach)
I’m too lazy to look it up but I think that the Pirates were in the top 2 in ERA so far along with the Fish. Says something about why maybe?
Tom O'Hawke
April 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
Somebody please help me! I’ve stumbled into a Phillies’ blog, and I can’t get out!
Dixie Dawg
April 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
N8,
That was everything that I have been feeling but unable to put into words. Very, very good post. We do need change. Like I said in an earlier post, other teams make changes when the status quo doesn’t cut it anymore.
Can someone please tell me (without the sarcasm) why management won’t gently ask Cox to step down.
brewdawg
April 18th, 2009
4:59 pm
It’s good to see N8 is already in mid-season form. You’re exactly right N8, same Sh!t, different year. I do a Mark Bowman eye roll every time I read your rants during a losing streak, because I know you’ll be loving life again during the next 3 game win streak. Wait, let me say it before you do: “You’re assuming, brewdawg, that this team will HAVE another 3 game win streak, which I for one doubt very much!”
Dixie Dawg
April 18th, 2009
5:00 pm
Watching the Yankees get crushed is actually therapeutic.
nolie
April 18th, 2009
5:00 pm
(STEVE from OHIO)
I meant to ask is there any possible Chipper replacement this season who might last until we draft? Prefer college but HS might do.
Lou Vales
April 18th, 2009
5:02 pm
SO!!!! We have a guy with enough GUTS to be standing in against Major League pitchers because he wants to “Tough it out”, BUT that is not the story. NO!!!! The story is about how a Blogger misinterpreted a trainer. And you guys have the sheer audacity to say that I’m nuts.
McCann is facing fastballs, breaking balls and if he loses one, he may be dead–as in Ray Chapman dead—but let’s complain about the Blogger.
If Jones watches this display of guts(and craziness!!) and remains anchored tomorrow, those players should FINALLY GET IT!!
mfinBrian321 (formerly TnJeff04)
April 18th, 2009
5:05 pm
BravesfanfromBirth (4:38 pm): “For me, its not hating the Braves, its about [loving to say hateful or ignorant stuff about them. Like].. It doesn’t help when you have a player like Chipper Jones who could sneeze and be out a significant amount of time.. It doesn’t help when your SS has stupid pre bat rituals that end up having him miss playing time.. It doesn’t help when your teams PC is as bad at getting results as McDowell is, and it doesn’t help when your teams manager can’t get the results from his players that other managers can get.. Bobby Cox is loved by the players because he is a player’s manager..
“[And I should know -- I've been a Braves' fan almost ten years.]
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
5:07 pm
Dixie Dawg,
That was funny.
nolie,
Actually Pirates and Fish are 1 and 2 on ERA in all the majors. So maybe once we leave them behind things will chance…….Im trying to be positive here……..
nolie
April 18th, 2009
5:09 pm
those players should FINALLY GET IT!! (Vales)
get what? That Chipper isn’t nuts?Mac has no business hitting if he can’t see well. That’s scary crazy.
Logan23
April 18th, 2009
5:09 pm
Here’s a therapeutic link unless your a Yankee fan.
http://m.mlb.com/scores/plays/2009_04_18_clemlb_nyamlb_1/2
Tom O'Hawke
April 18th, 2009
5:09 pm
“Watching the Yankees get crushed is actually therapeutic.” (Dixie Dawg)
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m doing and for that reason. How about Thursday, the first game in their new stadium?
Starting the highest paid pitcher in baseball ……161 million dollars
Playing the game in the most expensive stadium …1 1/2 billion dollars
Losing to a 2-7 team, 10-2 ………………….. Priceless
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
5:10 pm
DOB, actually, I’m a huge fan of the Braves. Why am I getting singled out in the first place? There have been vicious attacks on some players that I take up for, like a kid(Schafer) that’s lost at the plate but is making defense mistakes that you yourself has said he couldn’t catch half the balls he tracks to the wall. That I say something about. I guess though, most of us could cool it down a bit on something we have no control over.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
5:10 pm
Braves pitchers have allowed the fewest amount of HR thus far.
bravesfan
April 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
This team is flat pitiful, and it was obvious before game one. A combination of bad play and bad announcing makes this product unwatchable. Chip Caray is an embarrassment to humanity. He’s such a pitiful homer it’s ridiculous. I can’t watch for more than 30 seconds without hearing him display a complete and utter lack of intelligence. Example: McCann whiffs on Shafer’s throw from center field, and they appropriately score it an error on McCann. Caray rants wondering why the error was on McCann. You’re an idiot, Caray. Take your sad act back to Chicago. If we had Sutton in the TV booth instead of Caray, at least I would enjoy the announcing.
Shamus Thacker
April 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
Been on lake all day. Came here for happy news bout great win.
What do I get?
Heartache, nothing but heartache….
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
5:12 pm
Braves pitchers have allowed the fewest amount of HR thus far(in the majors)
Braves pitchers are tied for 2nd for the most K in the majors and 3rd for most walks in the majors
Steve from OH
April 18th, 2009
5:13 pm
nolie, the guy who comes to mind is Grant Green, a SS from USC. The scouting report says good range and good arm, power bat, and lots of room to fill out. He has made a few errors this season, and he could definitely move to 3B if needed (it may end up that way anyway, but I think he can be at least an average SS). It’s doubtful he’ll fall to us, though, even though he has struggled a bit this season.
Other than him, the pickins’ are slim, for all position players in the first round. BA has Green at no. 2, Dustin Ackley (1B, UNC) at no. 3., Donavan Tate at no. 6, and then it’s a huge dropoff to the next 3B infield prospect at no. 30, Bobby Borchering, who is a switch hitter with “plus power from both sides of the plate.” The only other corner infield prospect in between is Rich Poythress, 1B out of UGA, who has hit very well this season and moved up the draft board considerably.
At no. 7 on BA’s draft board is Alex White, a righthander out of UNC.
Hope you get better soon, dude. Sucks to hear about that.
But its early.......LOL(Doc H.)
April 18th, 2009
5:14 pm
Braves are dead last in fielding %………… of course with KJ leading the way with 2 errors (along with GA)
nolie
April 18th, 2009
5:14 pm
Why am I getting singled out in the first place? (TnBrian)
yeah I noticed last night than TnJeff was talking most of the trash and you were catching the heat from UGA. Course he mighta just been too drunk to notice the difference. Hey even TooBusy? took up for you. Still has a crush on you I guess even if you have cut way down on the cursing.
nolie
April 18th, 2009
5:16 pm
Heartache, nothing but heartache (Shamus)
great title for a country song, dude
Shamus Thacker
April 18th, 2009
5:18 pm
Yesterday, I said today would be the first day of the rest of the season.
Now I hope it’s the last day of the beginning of the season.
jbutler
April 18th, 2009
5:20 pm
I didn’t catch this, so sorry to possibly repeat a question – how long before we know if Boyer cleared waivers? There was a story in the Denver Post today about Rox looking for BP help. Just curious if he’s worth gambling on. Hope the Boyer bashing stops- it was awfully mean spirited…
Hey McFann – Maybe two turtles will work? Thanks for the good vibes..always nice to have you around.
teabag manifesto
April 18th, 2009
5:20 pm
FOX MUST GO! (and same for TBS)
Who wants to watch New York teams every stinking week. The networks should pick the most promising game, maybe based on pitching matchups.
I could care less about the stinking Yankees and their loser manager.
nolie
April 18th, 2009
5:20 pm
nolie, the guy who comes to mind is Grant Green, a SS from USC. The scouting report says good range and good arm, power bat, and lots of room to fill out. He has made a few errors this season, and he could definitely move to 3B if needed (it may end up that way anyway, but I think he can be at least an average SS). It’s doubtful he’ll fall to us, though, even though he has struggled a bit this season (Steve)
yeah I know a little about him and that he is not expected to last til the 7 slot. doesn’t sound too good for us having a chance. looks like a pitcher or best available talent I guess. Thanx for the info.
Steve from OH
April 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
To be really honest, I don’t see us drafting Green or Tate because I think they’ll both be taken before we pick. So that leaves us drafting another arm, which is never a bad thing. We’ve got a ton of arms at A/A+ and at AAA to deal from if we ever need to fill another need. Can never draft too many top-of-the-rotation types! But if Green is available when we pick, I do think that he’ll be the best player on the board, so we should definitely snag him.
Shamus Thacker
April 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
Got to admit I stole that line from Barney Fife, nolie. Think it was after Thelma Lou hit on Gomer Pyle.
Braveheart
April 18th, 2009
5:22 pm
So I guess, according to Lou Vales, Roberto Clemente was a dog like Chipper in his 30s. George Brett as well. Eddie Mathews was a bum. Ty Cobb, bum as well, ’cause the Peach, after all missed an average of 35 games or so a year after the age of 30.
TnBrian
April 18th, 2009
5:22 pm
nolie, it’s alright. DOB has every right to speak his mind and keep some of us in check. We all need it and we’re fortunate to have the guy keeping us up to date on out guys. The positive side is that Chipper and Escobar might be back tomorrow and Vazquez is pitching, so we’ll see. Of course Jeff looks like he’s back for good!
If so, my lineup: 1-Escobar 2-Diaz 3-Chipper 4-Franc. 5-Mac 6-KJ 7-Kotch. 8-Schafer
A-ville Ranger
April 18th, 2009
5:23 pm
I’m sure this has been touched on here in DOB-ville, but here’s a perspective on the Braves’ 15 year run.
Take a young, healthy Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine and what most years was a number 2 quality 4th starter.Subtract the top 4 starters from any playoff team in a given year and add those guys to the roster.What would their odds be of winning the WS ? With the possible exception of a Yankee team or 2 they would go WAY UP.What does this say for our 1 title in those years ? I’m just throwing out a way of viewing things, no conclusions.