2:06 pm April 15, 2009, by David O'Brien
April 15th, 200910:18 pm
Hey DOB can you please update us on Schafer’s numbers now? Thanks
Intramural Team is Aggressive
Pardon me, I didn’t have the full update. It’s even worse than what I claimed.
Ah, do you think Bobby will get rid of his BOYer now?
what can i say i am utterly disgusted with the shape of this teams pen. after a great start i guess we are quickly showing that against superior competition we are simply inept. sad to say but i have a feeling of dread at the beginning of each game just wondering who is gonna screw up next.
Sad to see all the feel-good qualities of the first week of the season dissipate so quickly, but there you have it. A bullpen with a couple of pieces that probably simply need to go (Boyer, Bennet), and few roles well-defined, and still no real answers in LF- a situation exacerbated by GA’s adventures out there last night.
It’d be nice to see the Braves make a move to at least shuffle the ‘pen, but not sure how likely that is.
here comes the blog’s favorite player. See if he shows emotion enough for yall tonight
On a positive noted Frncoeur hit an opposite field single.
Well the bright side is at least we won’t have to hear Chip Caray for a couple weeks.
JasonInFL (Formerly ME)
Andruw is 1-2 tonight with 3 runs scored and a walk (intentional)…he really may be finding his stroke…
April 15th, 200910:19 pm
Boyer has got to be the odd man out when Jojo comes up. Going on last year and this year its obvious more times than not he will not get the job done when it counts.
Hopefully the Braves take a different approach tommorow like they did in the 5th and work the count. It proved to work very well and its what the marlins have been doing. By doing that they have gotten out our starters and exploited our middle relief. We need to find a way to do the same. Much luck to Kawakami tomorrow. Hopefully his command is much better than his last game.
Well, that was disgusting. Still don’t get the error call, but what the heck ever.
Bennett and Boyer have a stiff competition going for the first ticket out of town. Just when you think Bennett has it sewn up…here comes Boyer!
MESSAGE TO BLAINE BOYER
A MESSAGE TO BOYER FROM THE OFFICIAL BRAVES FAN CAT
Boyer LOVES Cox
April 15th, 200910:20 pm
that is the funniest $@*# i have heard all day!!!!
since we are critiquing booby…i think the bullpen problem started with bringing moylan out to pitch the 7th. why not let buddy go two innings? i thought he was our long reliever? 3 up 3 down should definitely warrant another inning from buddy, especially since he only pitched one inning before the 7th. we are not even two weeks in to the season, so the guys “being tired” bull%$#$ is a poor excuse.
10 pitches thrown in the inning for the Marlins. Our bullpen is deflating our team, there was no fight at all in that inning. We didnt make that pitcher work at all. We made two outs on 4 pitches total, and the third out on 3 pitches. WTF.
Let’s hope Kawakami can go 7 tomorrow afternoon.Otherwise it’ll be another long day.
chip off the ol block
what do you think the Braves should do about the Braves bullpen right now?
what moves do you think need to be made
Garret Anderson's personal trainer
Almost got a hold of one.
Garrett still is in line to be celebrity endorser for Red Stripe.
April 15th, 200910:21 pm
Wow. What can you say? We can get one arm in Medlen. I honestly don’t know where we find the rest.
how is he going to hit it well stepping 3 feet out the box with his right foot..Jesuschristh. please cut anderson and the bums in the bullpen and have an open tryout over the weekend in Venezuela…Sooo…
April 15th, 200910:22 pm
Has Garrett Anderson always stepped toward 1st base as soon as the pitcher releases the ball?? It looks really bad, like he is bailing on every pitch. I haven’t gotten to watch him play much (due to him playing in the A.L.) so I don’t know whether that is how he has always hit or whether it is a short-term mechanical flaw. Anyone have any thoughts?
bf braves fan
April 15th, 200910:23 pm
anyone know how blanco is doing in gwinnett
Blaine Boyer's swan song
Bid adieu to the tub of goo.
April 15th, 200910:24 pm
The biggest mistake this offseason was Frank Wrens PRIDE getting in the way of us resigning Ohman! He thought 2 average/crap lefties could take the place of our most dependable guy out of the pen last year! BIG MISTAKE!!
And whats with Bobby not letting Buddy Carlyle go 2 or 3 innings… he was doing FINE!
This using a different guy every inning is going to KILL our pen!
If we win tomorrow we are 6-3….I’d be happy with that…everything considered.
April 15th, 200910:25 pm
blanco not doing good at all. ,219 with 10SO in 30AB
BOYER Loves Cox,
IMO that is an excellent point. I was thinking the same thing. It’s no wonder that the bullpen is always “burned up”. We used 6 relievers tonight when we could’ve used at least a couple less by letting Buddy keep throwing. I have all the respect in the world for Bobby Cox but his handling of the bullpen is consistently questionable at best.
I just want to know what the hell bobby has to say about this bullpen…you know Cox..where not in Philly anymore…poor old man must not even know…this its just coming a nightly trend for the ‘Pen…WalkS ,RunS, Hits, HBP..jeez…
April 15th, 200910:26 pm
Some thoughts from the game (I’ll leave out the obvious):
-I don’t know about you guys, but having all fifty players wear #42 was a bit much
-I thought it was really funny that with 2 on, 2 out, Braves down by 2 and Jordan Schafer up, the game was pretty intense. What does the PTV crew cut to? Bobby wiping his nose.
-JJ really annoys me
April 15th, 200910:27 pm
The biggest mistake this offseason was Frank Wrens PRIDE getting in the way of us resigning Ohman!
It’s okay, we have Glavine and Garret!!!! , I think the two are wise dark horse moves
April 15th, 200910:28 pm
It’s early. Real early. But maybe Boyer just needs a change of scenery. This has to be expected from Moylan. Guy is 11 months off from Tommy John. Jeff Bennett? Well, I’m not sure what to say about him. He has given up 10 hits already. Not sure what else to say. O’Flaherty is left-handed, that is basically the only reason he is here.
And as someone said above, where are all those people who hated the idea of trading for Nick Swisher? Excellent trade by Cashman.
-agree too much
April 15th, 200910:29 pm
The bullpen is such a mess, we need to get Winston Wolfe in here to clean it up.
April 15th, 200910:30 pm
Bobby was really going to town on his nose with that tissue thing. At least the cameras don’t cut to him knuckle deep in nostril anymore.
Blaine Boyer marches like a penguin
April 15th, 200910:31 pm
“But maybe Boyer just needs a change of scenery.”
How about Antartica.
This Saturday…..on a baseball field near you…Atlanta Braves Bullpen Tryouts…it doesnt matter who you are…just Throw strikes…
Frank from KS
April 15th, 200910:32 pm
Ya know, after this mess and the blowup in Phily by the pen…
I’m thinkin’ maybe Tommy Glavine may not WANT to come back to this even IF the pain subsides and he’s able to pitch….(Lol).
Pulp Fiction – its 30 minutes away he’ll be there in 10
Can anyone here pitch? I hear the Braves might be having open tryouts for the bullpen pretty soon.
Send A Message
The “everything is going to be ok” management style has met with little success since all the “Cy’s” got old/left/retired.
IMO Boyer should be DFA’d and so should Bennett. The pen should be sent a message that they must produce, or we’ll empty Gwinnett and go with a crew of youngsters. Teams have done it before and some have even been successful doing that. Would it put pressure on the pen to concentrate on their job of face the door? Sure it would! Would it put pressure on those guys? Heck yeah it would but if they can’t produce under pressure, they aren’t going to help this team win anyway!
haven’t changed channel and saw J J on a commercial. Ha
April 15th, 200910:33 pm
“Can anyone here pitch?”
If you want a pitch, I’m your man.
April 15th, 200910:34 pm
Blaine Boyer marches like a penguin
How bout Timbucktu?
April 15th, 200910:35 pm
That’s not really Billy Mays, guys. Notice the abscence of all caps and exclamation points
The type of pitch that best suits Blaine Boyer
I’m taking Boyer off my fantasy team. I’m fed up, my patience can’t take it anymore.
Hey tub of goo, we’re going to miss you once he leaves in few days. Your days are numbered
April 15th, 200910:36 pm
JJ is my favorite TV personality. He really likes “Con Air,” man. While Nic Cage’s attempt at a Southern accent is laughable, the movie has few redeeming qualities. Also, TBS used to show that thing ten times a week seven years ago.
A better move would be to show “Face/Off” ten times a week. That movie never gets old.
April 15th, 200910:37 pm
Chipper is the heart, soul, and engine of this team. That is not good news! When he’s out of the lineup, this team augers into the Earth. He already is sidelined with a nagging injury that will last much of the season! And it’s not his oblique, foot, or . What in the hell will he come down with in 2010, 2011 ????
Chip is a great ballplayer, but this new contract is an albatross.
Blaine Boyer symbolizes everything wrong with this team
April 15th, 200910:38 pm
“Hey tub of goo, we’re going to miss you once he leaves in few days. Your days are numbered”
But I will be at peace for I have fought the good fight.
albatross…..now there’s a word
April 15th, 200910:39 pm
If you have Blaine Boyer on your fantasy team, then you are not trying to compete.
I give Bobby an F for his performance tonight. But, he’s a HOF manager and I’m only a fan, so whatever. But I’ll tell you one doggon thing, whatever got in Bobby’s head by not letting Carlyle go another inning is VERY strange… VERY! You guys have hit the nail on the head about him using so many arms out of the pen per game…UNBELIEVABLE!
Boyer has no confidence and needs to be sent down and put the guy out of his misery. Think about it, that’s torcher having him implode like that in front of everybody. ENOUGH
April 15th, 200910:40 pm
Another movie that never gets old is one of Cage’s…..Leaving Las Vegas with Elisabeth Shue.
April 15th, 200910:41 pm
If this were a democracy, Boyer would be packing his bags right now. Going to either Gwinnet or whichever team is stupid enough to want him.
Yikes. That turned into Bad News Bears awful quickly. When one of the BP guys go off the rails like apparently Boyer has…who on the team steps up to give him counsel? Smoltz seemed to tutor Boyer- but maybe he knew he was going to the Red Sox when he was doing it Doesn’t seem to be an obvious person in the rotation anymore- just curious.
I don’t know why people are blaming these loses on our LF’s, but Diaz looks the same as he did last season before he got hurt. As far as Anderson is concerned, he’s a proven hitter, but he’s hurt, just like Chipper..again.
You can go prospects for Swisher, but it’s not going to help much. The Braves have scored plenty of runs, they’ve just given up too many.
The defense has been shaky, but the last I looked, Anderson wasn’t the only one that has made defensive mistakes.
Elisabeth Shue is chesty.
Blaine Boyer never listens to John Lennon
April 15th, 200910:42 pm
Imagine there’s no goo.
It’s easy if you try.
Mother, you had me,
but I never had goo.
Instant Karma’s gonna get goo
knock him right off his feet.
Frank from KS,
The difference between your comment about “Leaving Las Vegas” and my comment about “Face/Off” is that you’re being genuine. “Face/Off” makes me wanna hate motion pictures.
April 15th, 200910:43 pm
Think about it, that’s torcher having him implode like that in front of everybody. TnBrian
HAHA, thats great, even though its spelled wrong, it fits perfectly in that sentence, lol.
I’m guessing from the angst contained in the 10:00 p.m. posts that the pen blew a win tonight. I left it at 4-4. Figured with LOWE leaving after 5 we were done.
Wow! What a terrible way to end what had been a fairly competitive game. It looks like we underspent on middle relief. Boyer needs to go back down and work on his game in AAA and develop another pitch. What happened to his 95-96 mph fastball Smoltz was bragging on, I seem to remember him saying Boyer would one day hit 100. Now his good fastball is 92. Right now he’s a thrower and not a pitcher. I had hoped we would send a statement tonight and I guess we did, just the wrong one. RIght now and until the bullpen changes we are looking at 4th place and no wild card. How a couple of games (Philly meltdown and tonight)can change optimism into pessimism.
Ease up, folks. At 5-3, Braves are on pace to finish 100-60. plus or minus one or two.
Have a good night!
April 15th, 200910:44 pm
I haven’t seen a Nic Cage movie I liked – ever.
There i said it. Nic Cage sucks…
OK, OK, “Raising Arizona” was good.
April 15th, 200910:46 pm
Always enjoyed ELISABETH SHUE in THE SAINT with VAL KILMER.
You can go prospects for Swisher, but it’s not going to help much.kirkinga
Old news. Yankees need him as Nady is on DL, while Swisher leads the team in HR’s. Maybe we should have gotten Ohman and Swisher instead of Glavine and Garret.
Shutup about Chipper… Oh my God! His thumb or whatever it is, is purple from what I’ve heard. You don’t want to take the risk of having him out way longer than just having it heal, so shut it!
A weird game from the start:
- Lowe was obviously out of whack from the rainout, which was so obvious by the wildness.
- Lowe got SCREWED by the ump which would have probably been game changing K’s for him.
- Chipper is out and Mac looked a bit lost…very unusual.
Could be argued as a wierd game or just the game of baseball, who knows.
April 15th, 200910:47 pm
How about “RACING WITH THE MOON?”
oh well, season is young but that was some serious ugly tonight (again). you can’t blame Bobby for the piss poor performance of a few relievers, if they are on the team they need to perform. I can second guess the decision to have Carlyle pitch only one inning though, that is a strange one…
oh well, now I’ll watch the blazers hopefully put the smack down on the nuggets so the night isn’t a total loss..
April 15th, 200910:48 pm
Where is LEO M. when we need him, We need a real!!!!!!!!!! Pitching Coach.
I’ll scratch Chipper being out as “wierd”, definitely not weird.
Lowe pitched well enough to lose tonight. Not a quality start at all. Six innings, three runs allowed, Lowe. What about that do you not understand? I’d cut your a$$ right now. I’m sick of the inconsistency you showed during your five innings tonight. Someone needs to make it stop. It happened too often during this 1/162nd of the season.
(And no, I’m not trying to get people to be patient. I just wanted to try my hand at being angry. It’s fun.)
April 15th, 200910:50 pm
until liberty media starts actually caring about this baseball team. Hoser Frank Wren and Old fart Bobby cox are still in charge. When will this Ownership Group get serious and Hire True Baseball People.. Bobby Cox has lost it and its TIME for him to go NOW… Frank Wren deserves to be fired for not making one key signing for a bullpen that is the laughing stock of the Majors or No offensive power…. or making one roster move. yet we still have losers like bennett and boyer on this roster. they dont deserve to be there… we need a new GM and a NEW Manager … until that happens this team sucks…and start stealing bases for goodness sake oh wait BOBBY doesnt believe in stealing bases. its a crime…
Blaine Boyer's secret of success
Every time out, Blaine tries to pitch a “quality inning”.
That’s one where he gets three outs and gives up three runs or less.
Well, WIL OHMAN was always a favorite of mine, but I’m sorry I’m regretting his departure. I’m sure management is convinced of the rightousness of their move where he was concerned however.
Can we start saying bad words? Or do we have to wait until we have a losing record?
The fish are making a statement and the braves are making their own also.
April 15th, 200910:52 pm
I would ship Boyer in split second……….enough damage………it reminds me of AJ……….they wait forever until he cost us an entire season.
It looks like we underspent on middle relief…
The Marlins have a payroll of $35million and no Will Ohman.
April 15th, 200910:54 pm
What was the process behind making the decision to put Boyer out on the mound in a one-run game, in the ninth inning? It is very frustrating to know that some of our bullpen could have handled that inning much better, and kept it a close game, but that we put out a guy who’s been our worst pitcher this year, instead!!
Original Jon, spelled wrong? ok
April 15th, 200910:55 pm
Well said, Jeff. Actually, Arthur Blank needs to instigate a “hostile takeover” of the Braves. I am convinced that as long as penny-pinching Liberty Media is in control, the Braves are going no where!!!
And BTW, there will be a lot more empty blue seats this year at the Ted!
April 15th, 200910:56 pm
Hulk- I understand O J . Get a life.
April 15th, 200910:57 pm
Moylan ought to put on some glasses with no prescription to see if that will help.
Blaine Boyer deserves another chance
You can support this desolate and sad boy.
Only 35 hundred dollars a day will feed and clothe hime and give him shelter.
That’s a small amount to contribute but it would mean so much to this Boyer in desperate need.
April 15th, 200910:58 pm
N Nine, many here didn’t want Anderson in the first place.
It’s not like we haven’t had players not start well only to go on and have good seasons. I just wonder what it is about Anderson that he doesn’t get any grace period at all. I find that strange, especially since the guy is coming from the AL and has a bad calf.
I agree about Ohman, but then people told me it would be ok so let’s see how it turns out.
I have no regrets over the Braves resigning Glavine at all.
April 15th, 200910:59 pm
Scorby…only thing we can figure is Bobby wanted to lose the game…it makes no sense to put your worst pitcher in the most important inning of the game…no sense.
Sorry, I missed your earlier post. RICHMOND. Yeah, but I saw a lot of CANIZARES here the past two years.
April 15th, 200911:01 pm
Just got back to the hotel. Will definitely be there tomorrow. Will wear a University of Utah(Thank them for Meyer and the Florida sweater is too provocative) sweater tomorrow and will be raising Hell with Maybin. I’m going to tell him–LOUDLY__that it is about time an alleged 5 Tool player starts to at least resemble Schaefer.
Atlanta hit some ball really hard tonight and the game could have easily turned with the Braves having a 1 run lead going to the 9th. i still don’t think the Marlins can win with that bullpen–except for Nunez and Lindstrom—and Miller CONTINUES to show all the courage of Bambi with an 18 wheeler bearing down.
You can tell I tend to be overly OBJECTIVE about teams I care about. I’m proud as a 1969 Florida grad that I’ve been banned from the Gainesville Sun, Gator Country and Gator Bait BECAUSE I refuse to be a sycophant.
Look for the Utah sweater tomorrow.
I’m now going down to the bar and make sure everyone is getting off to bed early with that silly start time tomorrow.
No one’s getting any grace periods this time, kirk. Despite all the whining about a “lack of respect” from national media by some of the denizens, a lot of people here seem to expect an awful lot out of the hometown team this season. I believe we’re seeing the fruits of that.
(With more than a few fruitcakes thrown in, too.)
April 15th, 200911:03 pm
I don’t know why I said “despite,” but…whatever. Fans aren’t letting that perceived lack of respect tamp down their expectations. I guess that was the point I was trying to make.
Agreed on the poor start by GARRETT. KOTCHMAN comes immediately to mind in that department. He’s come around O.K.
April 15th, 200911:05 pm
Fix this bullpen now!
April 15th, 200911:06 pm
I actually think Boyer has a bright future……..selling paint at Home Depot.
April 15th, 200911:07 pm
The more Moylan and Boyer perform like this, the more I’m in favor of bringing of Reyes and/or Hanson to pitch in the bullpen. I know that their long-term value is as starters, but if they can help the big-league club as relievers now, and can do a better job then Boyer and and/or Moylan, then do it.
It also seems that Boyer has assigned himself to mop-up duty and should not be brought in at any pivotal moment in the game.
April 15th, 200911:08 pm
ohhhhhhh, thanks MFin04.
I’d always thought Bobby was the competitive, wants-to-win type, but I guess I was wrong!
If I was Bobby, I’d probably be ripping that guy’s arm off and beating him to death with it.
… then, I’d get the arm stuffed and mounted in the dugout to remind the other relievers that they’d better perform.
April 15th, 200911:09 pm
Cox expressed full confidence in one of the relievers that struggled tonight. But you can probably guess, it wasn’t Boyer. From my game story:
“We can’t hit guys and walk guys in the late innings – we’ve never done that before, not much,” said manager Bobby Cox, who watched Moylan and Boyer hit a batter apiece, and give up a combined five hits and three walks. “But we’ve done it this year.”
The Braves need a win in Thursday afernoon’s series finale to avoid being swept by the Marlins, after starting this six-game homestand by sweeping Washington.
After scoring four runs in five innings against Braves ace Derek Lowe, the Marlins got their fifth run when Moylan hit Cody Ross and walked Ross Gload with the bases loaded and two out in the seventh to give Florida a 5-4 lead.
“I’m just at a frustrating point right now,” said Moylan (0-1), who had struck out four in two perfect innings in his previous two appearances, before reverting to April 8 form Wednesday.
In the Braves’ 12-11 loss at Philadelphia on April 8, relievers issued four bases-loaded walks – including one by Moylan and two by Boyer — during an eight-run seventh inning that obliterated a seven-run lead.
“Two outings in a row, I’m lights-out,” Moylan said. “Tonight the ball was sinking, but I just couldn’t control it. Coming back from Tommy John [elbow] surgery, that’s one of the last things to come, is control.”
Moylan had ligament-transplant elbow surgery 11-1/2 months ago, an operation that typically requires a 12-month (or longer) rehab for pitchers. He said his arm felt great again Wednesday.
Moylan has a 20.25 ERA in five appearances, while Boyer has a 40.50 ERA in three after giving up four runs while recording one out Wednesday. He has been charged with six runs in 1-1/3 innings.
“I’m not worried about Moylan — at all,” Cox said.
April 15th, 200911:12 pm
I guess all the simpletons will start their “it’s still early” , “don’t over react”, “it’s a long season” speech about now. Last year when after about the 7th or 8th one run loss I and others said, “this is a pattern this isn’t just some anomaly”, “oh no” they said, “it’s too early to be a pattern” and what did the streak go to? I forget, something like 25 games? Well folks it doesn’t take a expert to see that this bullpen stinks. And no it’s not too early to say that. I believed, like most, that the bullpen would be solid this year. But Bennet, Boyer, and the little junk ball pitcher who is more of a starter who is miscast (Campillo) they don’t inspire confidence in me,and I’m sure the team either, and they sure couldn’t strike fear in opposing batters. Gonna be another long season watching a closely pitched game by the starters turn into a laugher by the 9th inning.
Call up Hanson, Medlen, Morton and Jo-Jo.
Ship off Boyer, O’Suckity and Bennett. Along with giving Moylan time to get right.
Let JJJ, Lowe and Vazquez do their 5-6 inning crap. And use one of those guys EVERY NIGHT (kind of like a 2nd starter), to get through the 7th and 8th.
Then pray like hell that Gonzo and Soriano can nail it down between the two of them in the 9th inning of games.
Hell. Start those other guys. Let them go 2 or 3 innings. THEN bring in Lowe, JJJ or Vazquez to “close it out”. Is there a “stat” for 7 inning saves?
I just think it’s amusing that we’ve got this ridiculous amount of (ahem) depth for starting pitchers. But JS and Wren for three years now, can’t figure out a way to find a fricking bullpen to save their own azzes.
These bullpen meltdowns are more embarrassing than the 1-run losses last year. You have to have a “special” kind of suck to lose a bunch of 1-run games.
You just plain old suck, when your bullpen can’t go an inning or 4 without giving up 5, 6, or 10 runs.
Sure would be nice to have some of those arms we gave up for Tex, huh? Perhaps Wainwright would fit into our pen just fine.
Hell, at this point, I’d take Oscar Frickin’ Villere-ally-not that good!
Hey. That being said…. we’re only a half game out of the NL wildcard.
GUARANTEE, that there are 29 other clubs out there that Blain Boyer would NOT be on the 25 man roster of. Luck us, that we follow the one that he would.
April 15th, 200911:13 pm
The why didn’t we sign Will Ohman crap on this board is really getting old. Apparently some of you have not read or heard the quotes from Wren and even admitted by Ohman that the Braves made him a very fair offer.
Problem is, Ohman overestimated his worth and the market and in turn had to settle for only 1.5 million dollars from the Dodgers. So lay off the Ohman crap, they did make him a fair offer and he was too stupid to take it.
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