First of all, the prick at 11:29 made me cry…kidding, but you know, you are what you say, or write. LOSER…
Met In Atlanta, I really think that the Mets starters after Santana will be too inconsistant to be comfortable with. Could be wrong, but that would be a worry for me.
Say what you want about the Nats and they are awful, but Dunn, Zimmerman, Dukes, and even Millege aren’t a day in the park and our guys kept them in check for the most part. Fla. pitching will be tougher but we’re “lucky” to get the bottom three guys in their rotation, so I’m thinking we take 2 out of 3 and don’t be surprised if we sweep them.
I like the way Schafer plays and would like to see someone in left with the same talent. I dont think Anderson or Diaz are as good as this kid.
Brandon Jones? He could put up big numbers if playing every day.
Fla. pitching will be tougher but we’re “lucky” to get the bottom three guys in their rotation, so I’m thinking we take 2 out of 3 and don’t be surprised if we sweep them. TnBrian
: HALLELULLAH Brother…from your lips to Bobby’s ears.
Kinda frustrating, especially when you’ve done some digging on stats and doing a comparison type post. But whatever. N8
write your longer comments in NotePad and copy to the board. If it screws up, like it sometimes does, you still have a copy of the post. Though it is kinda frightening thinking about all the memory that would be necessary for two copies of some of your posts. J/K N8.
Duh, Who cares about the dogs? I do, Dogs are mans best friend. They will give their life just for your attention and love. There’s not much a dog can’t do if you train them.
Carroll Rogers wrote a good story about Geno-” Gene Garber.”I was there the night he stop Pete Rose at 44 hits. Great Brave!
nolie, ok. The “ignorant Tn. redneck” in me wants to know what “from your lips to Bobby’s ears” means TnBrian
it’s a paraphrase of the old expression “from your lips to God’s ears”, meaning may what you ask for come true quickly with the help of the Lord. in this case through the help of Bobby, twisting on the fact that so many here hate him. Had nothing to do with Tennessee or red necks or a put-down of you.
Bring on Tommy Hanson, and lets get this party started.
Since we have other depth options, wouldn’t it be a good baseball decision to wait on this idea? At least until we can control Hanson for another year. I’d love to have the Han Man as long as possible.
I hope Tommy gets a little more seasoning before being called up. I like to see the young buck mowing down batters in AAA. Lets not forget his last ST game versus the Astros.
nolie, oh I new you weren’t putting me down, just wanted to know what that line meant. No hard feelings…
Anybody see or read about Beckett throwing at Abreu today? Beckett is an arrogant punk for not only that, but saying the Angels are too emotional because of the Adenhart tragedy. Of course they are you punk a**! He can twist and turn it any way he wants, but he’s just too arrogant and disrespectful to me.
I have to agree with you TnBrian. Beckett does have that whole holier than thou kind of attitude and I’ve never really to much liked him. I was kinda rooting for Tori Hunter to kick his butt. He’s all talk.
N Nine, your 12:24 poses a good question. The answer lies somewhere around the answer to the question of whether the Braves are thinking long-term, or trying to win this year.
Of course, this is assuming that Hanson will be productive (or more productive than Jo-Jo or Morton would be if brought up for whatever reasons – injuries, ineffectiveness of other starters). I’m of the belief that while he’d struggle at times, his “stuff” is good enough to get him out of most troubling situations.
So, if the Braves are concerned about 5 years from now. By all means, keep Hanson waiting in the wings off of the 40 man roster.
But if they are serious about winning this summer. I think he’ll be needed at some point.
But I’m of the belief that if we can get by without him until July, he may be EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the stretch run (presuming will be within striking distance).
Pitchers (even Kyle Davies) often have the advantage when there isn’t a lot of ml video to circulate.
Jake, yeah that’s just something you don’t say, no matter if he meant no harm with that comment or not. Why bring that up, I mean he almost nailed a dude in the head because he was ticked off that he took too much time in the box, so uhh, they’re gonna be fired up. No respect at all for Beckett, ever.
Given that Reyes and Morton are ready for the MLB (well, at least AAAA) – I would plug one of them in first and save Hanson’s arb clock from starting. Besides, maybe Morton is coming around.
Line from his start today: 6IP, 12 SO, 1 BB 1 ER – not bad at all.
Maybe he (or Reyes) does really well and stays in the MLB rotation for an extended period of time. Given that the Braves will have Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Kawakami, and maybe Hudson next year (we’ll see if that extension gets exercised given the price tag) plus Hanson as well – the Braves might have some nice trading chips in the off-season (i.e. young, affordable pitching).
So by show casing Morton/Reyes until Glavine is ready – the Braves only strengthen the appeal of their farm products.
It would be wise to let Hanson develop his pitches and control at the AAA level, which is why we will not see this kid until after the break. This kid is too good to rush at age 22. I still can’t believe he was a draft and follow pick. Bravos scouts are the best in the business.
But I’m of the belief that if we can get by without him until July, he may be EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the stretch run (presuming will be within striking distance).
If our starters are doing well – maybe even wait till September and do what Tampa Bay did last year with Price. Maybe not a great idea, but it just popped in my head as another option – keep that arb clock ticking even longer.
“This kid is too good to rush at age 22.Frankie Knuckles
I’ve said many times, I’m EXCITED for Hanson to come up. So, perhaps I’m willing to rush him up. Yet I understand NOT bringing him up until he’s ready.
But to say he’s “too good to rush at age 22″, is a BS excuse, if you don’t mind me saying.
Smoltz (who Bobby has compared his stuff to), had 41 starts in the big leagues by the time he was 23 (which Hanson will turn mid-season).
Glavine had 43 starts before the age of 23. Maddux had 66. Avery had 90.
If you want to say he’s not ready, thus he needs more time at AAA, I can’t argue with that theory. It very well may be true. But to say he’s too good to rush at age 22 doesn’t fly with me. If he’s that good, he can handle being “rushed”.
Salamande, exactly. If we can get away without him, then he could be that jolt of energy that takes us over the top. Hell, if we’re doing fine without him, he could be that extra arm in the playoff like Wainwright for the Cardinals a few years ago, that helps dominate IN October.
Agreed on Morton. If his confidence (which even DOB said last year seemed to be low), ever comes around, he could be a damn fine pitcher in our rotation for years.
Maybe not ACE material like Hanson is touted as. But certainly servicable.
N8 – I guess i should have said he has too much potential to be rushed. He turns 23 almost five months into the season. Not for nothing but where are you getting that start info for Glavine, Smoltz and Avery?
what about infante & prado?! these guys would be starting for most teams. very reassuring having them on our bench, but i was real pleased to see cox give them both a start today against the lefty. hope to see more of that throughout the season.
i’m probably worrying too much, but i’m getting a bad feeling on garrett anderson’s injury. let’s just say there’s no need to rush him back. cant help but think he’s gonna tweak it again and be out for another 2 weeks. this sort of thing can go on forever. may as well get him healthy now while the team’s playing well, as opposed to having it drag on.
our main weakness is the pen, and i fear the marlins will exploit that in the upcoming series.
my last post just got eaten. i was bemoaning all these hyped bands that you hear about all the time, then when you hear them, they suck so bad, you’re left baffled and bewildered, with your confidence in humanity shaken. (well, that happened long ago actually…) anyway, the yeah yeah yeahs performance on SNL is a case in point. holy crap did that suck! it was actually worse than the lame song vampire weekend played on conan. (i’d heard about them for about 5 months, finally saw them, listened closely, and they were just positively pathetic.)
the yeah yeah yeahs were so bad, i actually googled them to see what people said. thankfully i found one sane man out there:
Man, how did these guys get signed? I think I have the answer. Young, influential punks wanting to seem different and hip to the whole alternative scene buy this sort of crap. Keen to take advantage of this, record companies sign only the crappest bands out there. And voila, we have bands like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. (jonno’s blog: http://jonnobrittain.blogspot.com/2007/04/yeah-yeah-yeahs-yeah-they-suck.html)
i think that’s about right. lame state of affairs, i’ll say that much….
If Glavine can’t anser the bell, it makes a lot more sense to bring up Morton for a start than any other option (depending on rest). Especially, after his last AAA start. The team needs to know if he can make the jump or not, and the ST injury denied them a good early look at him. Mid-90s fastball, excellent curve, average-to-above-average slider and changeup – plenty of tools in his arm…the only ML question on him is above-the-neck.
But remember that he wasn’t ever really healthy in his ML stint last year, and that may have caused him to pitch with less confidence while he was up. Maybe. Anyway, Braves need to know, one way or another, the kind of asset he can be: future starter or trade piece.
I read Bowman’s article on braves.com. I thought Hanson was pitching Tuesday on regular rest. Jo Jo Reyes pitched Friday, so he would be going on three days rest. Doesn’t make sense to me. Anyway I wanted Hanson to come up, but if he will not pitch every five days, then we should keep him at AAA. I agree that Jo Jo, or Morton should get the call. Just not Campillo. He is to similar to Kawakami
it’s interesting how much junk one can get caught up in trying to get from that area to downtown, especially on week-end days. (Usually there are flags involved, and that’s all I say).
But, generally, it’s not as bad on week-ends before rush-hour.
That said, Salamander is right in that the area immediately east of downtown (Inman Park, Candler Park, Reynoldstown, etc.), seems to provide the easiest in and out commutes to and from downtown. Good roads. Lightly traveled, etc. There is rarely any type of real delay to slow you down. And, if you are not afraid of driving by a little street crime, then you have roadway options that are pretty much wide-open almost 24 hours/day.
This season seems to be starting somewhat similar to 2007.
I think this team is better, for a lot of reasons; but, the start has some similarities.
It’s funny, 5 years ago, a start like this, and we confidently expect another trip to the post-season. But now, it’s hard to have more than just hope that the Braves will keep this up.
A fifth starter is needed on 4/18 but his second start could be 4/28 since 4/23 is an off day. My guess is that if the Braves think Glavine can make it on 4/28 (if not 4/18), then they will go with a spot starter from the bullpen on 4/18. One benefit is that they can delay the decision on who to send down (not all of the relievers have options) and keep the expanded bullpen a bit longer. Of course, having the starters go deep into the games against the Marlins would help this strategy since the spot starter will almost certainly tax the bullpen.
I guarantee that Bobby will use JoJo Reyes instead of Hanson to replace Glavine. The man worships that lefty-righty nonsense. Personally, I’d rather have Hanson’s wicked stuff even if he was facing a team of left-handed all-stars.
Pulled last night’s GWINNETT box. My man MORTON goes 6.0 innings with 12 SO, 1 walk, 1 hit, 1 run – earned, 81 pitches – 56 strikes, 3 groundouts – 3 flyouts, 21 batters faced. I love this guy. Still say he’ll be a great middle rotation starter for us by next year. Slow and steady.
Steve if nobody gets called up Charlie should get the opening day start at Gwinnett. Pretty sure Bowman is off when he says JoJo is pitching on Tuesday unless they are going out of order for some reason. For rest of week should be Today- Redmond, Tomm-Tommy, Wed-JoJo, Thurs-Parr, Friday-Charlie, Sat-Redmond.
So unless they go out of order Charlie looks like the most likely to get called up but I would put my money on a spot start from Buddy or Campillo
-Braves are tied (with the Cards) for the best batting average in the majors at .300
-The Braves are tied for the second worst stolen base total in the majors with ONE (by McCann of all people)
-Braves and Marlins are the only one-loss teams. The common factor? They’ve both played the Nats
The Braves have only 1 SB, an opportunistic, heads-up play by McCann, but they have used their speed very effectively this last week — KJ stretching a single into a 2B when Harris didn’t cover 2B, Diaz stretching his hit into a 2B yesterday, Schafer and Diaz beating out infield hits. There is more to base running than stolen bases, and they Braves have played an aggressive running game so far this year.
Hanson struggled in the last ST appearance, and was only able to go 4.1 innings in his AAA debut due to high pitch count. He should not be the first option the Braves use if a fifth starter is needed on Saturday. Depending on the BP situation, the Braves may go with Campillo in that start, but he would be unlikely to be able to go more than 5 innings, if that (same with Buddy), and that would overextend the rest of the pen. My odds would be Morton (35%), Reyes (25%), Campillo (25%), Hanson (10%), Buddy (5%).
Nice start of the season Braves taking 2 out of 3 from the World Champs and then a SWEEP of the NL East Nationals!!!! Anybody know how much longer until Hudson is back?
Really looking forward to this Marlins series. I think it’ll be a good barometer to see exactly where this team is. It is going to be a lot more difficult to get 2 out RBIs, and I’m interested to see what type of power numbers we can put up against the Fish.
As far as Hanson, I think I’d rather see Morton or Reyes replace Glavine for short term spot starts this early in the season. If Hanson came up and was mowing folks down, how painful will it be if he gets sent back down when Glavine is ready?
If/when he gets called up this year, I’m hoping it will be in mid July/August for the stretch run. I have this gut feeling that we will see Glavine retire sometime during this season. I may be wrong but it’s just a feeling.
who do we have pitching in this series…vazquez, lowe, kawakami? i think the braves have a good chance to take 2 of 3…weve been hitting well and pitching well, so we should put u runs while limiting the damage…
by the way, (i havent blogged all weekend, so im gonna look back for a moment) kawakami looked good in his season debut with 8 K’s. very nice!it seemed like he followed the MO for other japanese pitchers weve seen. high pitch count, puts alot of guys on base, ect. but he got the job done. our starters have been great so far.
How many out there in the Atlanta metro area have no electricity right now? I’m powerless, and p’d.
I always forget how much virtually everything I want to do around the house depends on electricity, including what I’m doing now once this battery runs down on my Mac Powerbook.
Jodi, that’s actually kinda refreshing that you asked. It’s on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS).
Just wait till you start reading all the references to VORP and “adjusted OPS” and everything else that’ll be thrown around here by some denizens on a regular basis…
NW Cobb has power but a few small transformers are off due to trees . My power was off just briefly early.
We do get so used to the normal things it just erks us when they don’t work . Hope you get power soon or as my notebook would only last a few hours with heavy usage,you might go dark this morning. But we wasn’t expecting you today anyway DOB ,just Carroll. isn’t it your day off?
Went to the game Sat night and sat in the all you can eat seats in CF right behind Schafer.
Anyone done the all you can eat seats yet this year?
It was a great game to watch, and Jordan Schafer’s batspeed is even more unreal in person.
I was tied up all day yesterday, but did we retaliate for Kelly getting hit on Sat night? 2 outs with a base open and a guy that was 3-4 at the plate, it seemed pretty intentional to all the fans in CF at least. Kelly had an amazing game, and really showed balance hitting the ball to all fields.
Isn’t it all too obvious? Look at how deep and talented the Braves pitching is? Look at the other teams in the division and their rotation depth? Is it really even comparable. Outside of the Marlins, who look to be a very scary squad, the Mets and Phillies have to wait every 5 days to get a consistent start. We have that ability every night we send someone out to the mound. Why don’t these “baseball experts” open their damn eyes.
One other thing about Morton’s start…richbrave points out his good 2-to-1 strikes ratio, so he was probably pitching ahead in the count, for the most part. Also (OK, two things, LOL), ten of his twelve Ks were swinging. So, hitters gearing up for Morton’s fastball at strike three were still not able to catch up to it, were unable to adjust to Morton’s secondary pitches, or both. It doesn’t appear he was trying to finesse anybody. So, the strikes ratio and the swinging Ks say, to me, that he was pitching aggressively, and that’s a good sign for a guy with Morton’s history.
My favorite part of last night’s ESPN broadcast was Joe Morgan’s approval of OPS because, I’m paraphrasing here, “the best guys have the top numbers.” For a guy who goes on and on about how wins are the most important stat for a pitcher (they’re the most important stat for a team, not an individual player), you’d think he would have the baseball knowledge inside of him to see the contradiction.
Yea it wouldn’t surprise me if thats the reason. Infante’s was on a curveball so definitely didn’t do that on purpose. The only one that might have been maybe Kelly but got to remember that he stands right up on the plate so thats going to happen to him when he is leaning over the plate and smacking the ball around the yard because they are going to come in to make him honest.
(sorry the .OPS comment was supposed to be included on the previous post about the Elon hitters).
With 2 out and 1B open, do you all think Kelly was dosed up intentionally.
I believe he was, 100%. Maybe their closer was trying to send a message that he was getting some work but the Braves shouldn’t get too comfortable digging in.
looking forward to this new series against the fish, should be some great games ahead of us, does anyone know what pitchers we are facing?? i think i herd it in yesterday’s game but not for sure
with Javy Derek and KK up i think we’ll go very deep into the games possible sweep, but i think we’ll probably win 2 games, if not 3
Of course, the strategy should be the same for the Fish, but, for the most part, they have very aggressive hitters. The other big key for us is to keep Bonafacio off the bases.
OK, well, I was just typing a post touting that we had power when the power goes out. But hey, it stayed out a maximum time of one minute.
A tree fell at the entrance to our neighborhood, just missing our AT&T box…came thisclose to repeated our Christmas adventure, only with a tree, not a truck…guess it woulda just become a holiday tradition, then…
DOB: “Backup catcher David Ross (groin strain) is expected to go on rehab Tuesday and Wednesday, then be activated for Thursday’s game against Florida, the first day he’s eligible.”
Kawakami starts Thursday, right?
As far as you know, do the Braves definitely plan to have Ross regularly catch Kawakami?
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TnBrian
April 12th, 2009
11:47 pm
First of all, the prick at 11:29 made me cry…kidding, but you know, you are what you say, or write. LOSER…
Met In Atlanta, I really think that the Mets starters after Santana will be too inconsistant to be comfortable with. Could be wrong, but that would be a worry for me.
Say what you want about the Nats and they are awful, but Dunn, Zimmerman, Dukes, and even Millege aren’t a day in the park and our guys kept them in check for the most part. Fla. pitching will be tougher but we’re “lucky” to get the bottom three guys in their rotation, so I’m thinking we take 2 out of 3 and don’t be surprised if we sweep them.
1995
April 12th, 2009
11:51 pm
I like the way Schafer plays and would like to see someone in left with the same talent. I dont think Anderson or Diaz are as good as this kid.
Brandon Jones? He could put up big numbers if playing every day.
N8
April 12th, 2009
11:51 pm
“well maybe the blog just ate my post…” mets fan in atlanta
I’ve actually had about 7-10 posts in the last 3-4 days show up initially, and disappear. Or just not show up at all.
Kinda frustrating, especially when you’ve done some digging on stats and doing a comparison type post. But whatever.
nolie
April 12th, 2009
11:52 pm
Fla. pitching will be tougher but we’re “lucky” to get the bottom three guys in their rotation, so I’m thinking we take 2 out of 3 and don’t be surprised if we sweep them. TnBrian
: HALLELULLAH Brother…from your lips to Bobby’s ears.
TnBrian
April 12th, 2009
11:53 pm
I just set myself up in that 1st line, didn’t I? I guess that makes ME a loser… I’m not, but maybe not much of a proof reader, for sure!
nolie
April 12th, 2009
11:55 pm
Kinda frustrating, especially when you’ve done some digging on stats and doing a comparison type post. But whatever. N8
write your longer comments in NotePad and copy to the board. If it screws up, like it sometimes does, you still have a copy of the post. Though it is kinda frightening thinking about all the memory that would be necessary for two copies of some of your posts. J/K N8.
TnBrian
April 12th, 2009
11:57 pm
nolie, ok. The “ignorant Tn. redneck” in me wants to know what “from your lips to Bobby’s ears” means.
Jackie Treehorn
April 13th, 2009
12:03 am
DOB, did you catch Breaking Bad tonight?
Jesse is in some hot water.
Poorbrave
April 13th, 2009
12:16 am
Duh, Who cares about the dogs? I do, Dogs are mans best friend. They will give their life just for your attention and love. There’s not much a dog can’t do if you train them.
Carroll Rogers wrote a good story about Geno-” Gene Garber.”I was there the night he stop Pete Rose at 44 hits. Great Brave!
nolie
April 13th, 2009
12:21 am
nolie, ok. The “ignorant Tn. redneck” in me wants to know what “from your lips to Bobby’s ears” means TnBrian
it’s a paraphrase of the old expression “from your lips to God’s ears”, meaning may what you ask for come true quickly with the help of the Lord. in this case through the help of Bobby, twisting on the fact that so many here hate him. Had nothing to do with Tennessee or red necks or a put-down of you.
N Nine
April 13th, 2009
12:24 am
Bring on Tommy Hanson, and lets get this party started.
Since we have other depth options, wouldn’t it be a good baseball decision to wait on this idea? At least until we can control Hanson for another year. I’d love to have the Han Man as long as possible.
N Nine
April 13th, 2009
12:25 am
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Frankie Knuckles
April 13th, 2009
12:32 am
I hope Tommy gets a little more seasoning before being called up. I like to see the young buck mowing down batters in AAA. Lets not forget his last ST game versus the Astros.
TnBrian
April 13th, 2009
12:32 am
nolie, oh I new you weren’t putting me down, just wanted to know what that line meant. No hard feelings…
Anybody see or read about Beckett throwing at Abreu today? Beckett is an arrogant punk for not only that, but saying the Angels are too emotional because of the Adenhart tragedy. Of course they are you punk a**! He can twist and turn it any way he wants, but he’s just too arrogant and disrespectful to me.
Jake W.
April 13th, 2009
12:38 am
I have to agree with you TnBrian. Beckett does have that whole holier than thou kind of attitude and I’ve never really to much liked him. I was kinda rooting for Tori Hunter to kick his butt. He’s all talk.
N8
April 13th, 2009
12:41 am
N Nine, your 12:24 poses a good question. The answer lies somewhere around the answer to the question of whether the Braves are thinking long-term, or trying to win this year.
Of course, this is assuming that Hanson will be productive (or more productive than Jo-Jo or Morton would be if brought up for whatever reasons – injuries, ineffectiveness of other starters). I’m of the belief that while he’d struggle at times, his “stuff” is good enough to get him out of most troubling situations.
So, if the Braves are concerned about 5 years from now. By all means, keep Hanson waiting in the wings off of the 40 man roster.
But if they are serious about winning this summer. I think he’ll be needed at some point.
But I’m of the belief that if we can get by without him until July, he may be EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the stretch run (presuming will be within striking distance).
Pitchers (even Kyle Davies) often have the advantage when there isn’t a lot of ml video to circulate.
TnBrian
April 13th, 2009
12:45 am
Jake, yeah that’s just something you don’t say, no matter if he meant no harm with that comment or not. Why bring that up, I mean he almost nailed a dude in the head because he was ticked off that he took too much time in the box, so uhh, they’re gonna be fired up. No respect at all for Beckett, ever.
Salamander
April 13th, 2009
12:46 am
Given that Reyes and Morton are ready for the MLB (well, at least AAAA) – I would plug one of them in first and save Hanson’s arb clock from starting. Besides, maybe Morton is coming around.
Line from his start today: 6IP, 12 SO, 1 BB 1 ER – not bad at all.
Maybe he (or Reyes) does really well and stays in the MLB rotation for an extended period of time. Given that the Braves will have Lowe, Vazquez, Jurrjens, Kawakami, and maybe Hudson next year (we’ll see if that extension gets exercised given the price tag) plus Hanson as well – the Braves might have some nice trading chips in the off-season (i.e. young, affordable pitching).
So by show casing Morton/Reyes until Glavine is ready – the Braves only strengthen the appeal of their farm products.
Frankie Knuckles
April 13th, 2009
12:47 am
It would be wise to let Hanson develop his pitches and control at the AAA level, which is why we will not see this kid until after the break. This kid is too good to rush at age 22. I still can’t believe he was a draft and follow pick. Bravos scouts are the best in the business.
Salamander
April 13th, 2009
12:48 am
But I’m of the belief that if we can get by without him until July, he may be EXACTLY what the doctor ordered for the stretch run (presuming will be within striking distance).
If our starters are doing well – maybe even wait till September and do what Tampa Bay did last year with Price. Maybe not a great idea, but it just popped in my head as another option – keep that arb clock ticking even longer.
Frankie Knuckles
April 13th, 2009
12:50 am
By the way JJ pitched a good game. Does anyone miss Renteria?
Salamander
April 13th, 2009
12:54 am
Definitely don’t miss Renteria – Esco is a beast (he does roll over to the SS way too much).
JJ was OK today – 5 walks, 3 ER, with only 1 SO
in his two starts: 11 IP, 8 BB and 3 SO (yuck) and a 1.55 WHIP so far. Still early, but his control is not there.
N8
April 13th, 2009
12:55 am
“This kid is too good to rush at age 22. Frankie Knuckles
I’ve said many times, I’m EXCITED for Hanson to come up. So, perhaps I’m willing to rush him up. Yet I understand NOT bringing him up until he’s ready.
But to say he’s “too good to rush at age 22″, is a BS excuse, if you don’t mind me saying.
Smoltz (who Bobby has compared his stuff to), had 41 starts in the big leagues by the time he was 23 (which Hanson will turn mid-season).
Glavine had 43 starts before the age of 23. Maddux had 66. Avery had 90.
If you want to say he’s not ready, thus he needs more time at AAA, I can’t argue with that theory. It very well may be true. But to say he’s too good to rush at age 22 doesn’t fly with me. If he’s that good, he can handle being “rushed”.
Salamande, exactly. If we can get away without him, then he could be that jolt of energy that takes us over the top. Hell, if we’re doing fine without him, he could be that extra arm in the playoff like Wainwright for the Cardinals a few years ago, that helps dominate IN October.
N8
April 13th, 2009
12:58 am
Agreed on Morton. If his confidence (which even DOB said last year seemed to be low), ever comes around, he could be a damn fine pitcher in our rotation for years.
Maybe not ACE material like Hanson is touted as. But certainly servicable.
Frankie Knuckles
April 13th, 2009
1:09 am
N8 – I guess i should have said he has too much potential to be rushed. He turns 23 almost five months into the season. Not for nothing but where are you getting that start info for Glavine, Smoltz and Avery?
Mitchell
April 13th, 2009
1:10 am
I just got *my* $h!7 gacked off the blog too. I poured my heart and soul into that thing. Nowhere to be found.
Occasionally if I’m writing a long one I copy and paste it for safety purposes so that nobody misses out on my valued and informed commentary.
Do people still say “gacked”? Or was “ganked”?
Frankie Knuckles
April 13th, 2009
1:14 am
I think it was ganked
jed
April 13th, 2009
2:40 am
what about infante & prado?! these guys would be starting for most teams. very reassuring having them on our bench, but i was real pleased to see cox give them both a start today against the lefty. hope to see more of that throughout the season.
i’m probably worrying too much, but i’m getting a bad feeling on garrett anderson’s injury. let’s just say there’s no need to rush him back. cant help but think he’s gonna tweak it again and be out for another 2 weeks. this sort of thing can go on forever. may as well get him healthy now while the team’s playing well, as opposed to having it drag on.
our main weakness is the pen, and i fear the marlins will exploit that in the upcoming series.
jed
April 13th, 2009
3:09 am
my last post just got eaten. i was bemoaning all these hyped bands that you hear about all the time, then when you hear them, they suck so bad, you’re left baffled and bewildered, with your confidence in humanity shaken. (well, that happened long ago actually…) anyway, the yeah yeah yeahs performance on SNL is a case in point. holy crap did that suck! it was actually worse than the lame song vampire weekend played on conan. (i’d heard about them for about 5 months, finally saw them, listened closely, and they were just positively pathetic.)
the yeah yeah yeahs were so bad, i actually googled them to see what people said. thankfully i found one sane man out there:
Man, how did these guys get signed? I think I have the answer. Young, influential punks wanting to seem different and hip to the whole alternative scene buy this sort of crap. Keen to take advantage of this, record companies sign only the crappest bands out there. And voila, we have bands like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs. (jonno’s blog: http://jonnobrittain.blogspot.com/2007/04/yeah-yeah-yeahs-yeah-they-suck.html)
i think that’s about right. lame state of affairs, i’ll say that much….
ncscoots
April 13th, 2009
6:13 am
If Glavine can’t anser the bell, it makes a lot more sense to bring up Morton for a start than any other option (depending on rest). Especially, after his last AAA start. The team needs to know if he can make the jump or not, and the ST injury denied them a good early look at him. Mid-90s fastball, excellent curve, average-to-above-average slider and changeup – plenty of tools in his arm…the only ML question on him is above-the-neck.
But remember that he wasn’t ever really healthy in his ML stint last year, and that may have caused him to pitch with less confidence while he was up. Maybe. Anyway, Braves need to know, one way or another, the kind of asset he can be: future starter or trade piece.
Rob from SC
April 13th, 2009
6:55 am
I read Bowman’s article on braves.com. I thought Hanson was pitching Tuesday on regular rest. Jo Jo Reyes pitched Friday, so he would be going on three days rest. Doesn’t make sense to me. Anyway I wanted Hanson to come up, but if he will not pitch every five days, then we should keep him at AAA. I agree that Jo Jo, or Morton should get the call. Just not Campillo. He is to similar to Kawakami
brent a.
April 13th, 2009
7:12 am
just saw the midtown traffic posts.
it’s interesting how much junk one can get caught up in trying to get from that area to downtown, especially on week-end days. (Usually there are flags involved, and that’s all I say).
But, generally, it’s not as bad on week-ends before rush-hour.
That said, Salamander is right in that the area immediately east of downtown (Inman Park, Candler Park, Reynoldstown, etc.), seems to provide the easiest in and out commutes to and from downtown. Good roads. Lightly traveled, etc. There is rarely any type of real delay to slow you down. And, if you are not afraid of driving by a little street crime, then you have roadway options that are pretty much wide-open almost 24 hours/day.
brent a.
April 13th, 2009
7:13 am
^^^^
I mean to say “it’s not as bad on WEEKDAYS before rush-hour” . . .
(as if anyone was really reading
)
brent a.
April 13th, 2009
7:18 am
This season seems to be starting somewhat similar to 2007.
I think this team is better, for a lot of reasons; but, the start has some similarities.
It’s funny, 5 years ago, a start like this, and we confidently expect another trip to the post-season. But now, it’s hard to have more than just hope that the Braves will keep this up.
bgvt
April 13th, 2009
7:26 am
A fifth starter is needed on 4/18 but his second start could be 4/28 since 4/23 is an off day. My guess is that if the Braves think Glavine can make it on 4/28 (if not 4/18), then they will go with a spot starter from the bullpen on 4/18. One benefit is that they can delay the decision on who to send down (not all of the relievers have options) and keep the expanded bullpen a bit longer. Of course, having the starters go deep into the games against the Marlins would help this strategy since the spot starter will almost certainly tax the bullpen.
Greg
April 13th, 2009
7:38 am
I guarantee that Bobby will use JoJo Reyes instead of Hanson to replace Glavine. The man worships that lefty-righty nonsense. Personally, I’d rather have Hanson’s wicked stuff even if he was facing a team of left-handed all-stars.
richbrave
April 13th, 2009
8:12 am
Pulled last night’s GWINNETT box. My man MORTON goes 6.0 innings with 12 SO, 1 walk, 1 hit, 1 run – earned, 81 pitches – 56 strikes, 3 groundouts – 3 flyouts, 21 batters faced. I love this guy. Still say he’ll be a great middle rotation starter for us by next year. Slow and steady.
Gil In Mechanicsville
April 13th, 2009
8:26 am
You are right RB, once Morton gets past his confidence issues, he will be a real plus for the Braves.
Steve McP
April 13th, 2009
8:39 am
DOB – any idea who the pitcher will be on opening day at Gwinnett? I am making the trip and would be pleased if they give it to Hanson.
Richard Dawson
April 13th, 2009
9:04 am
You people are suckers thinking this is a playoff team.
Giggidy!
April 13th, 2009
9:05 am
I thought Richard Dawson was dead?
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:08 am
Survey says nobody likes you, Richard.
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:08 am
No he’s still alive.
Giggidy!
April 13th, 2009
9:09 am
Mets, Phillies and Yankees all suck again this year too!
vabravesfan
April 13th, 2009
9:21 am
Steve if nobody gets called up Charlie should get the opening day start at Gwinnett. Pretty sure Bowman is off when he says JoJo is pitching on Tuesday unless they are going out of order for some reason. For rest of week should be Today- Redmond, Tomm-Tommy, Wed-JoJo, Thurs-Parr, Friday-Charlie, Sat-Redmond.
So unless they go out of order Charlie looks like the most likely to get called up but I would put my money on a spot start from Buddy or Campillo
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:30 am
Tomm-Tommy?
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:34 am
I was just looking around some stats this morning
-Braves are tied (with the Cards) for the best batting average in the majors at .300
-The Braves are tied for the second worst stolen base total in the majors with ONE (by McCann of all people)
-Braves and Marlins are the only one-loss teams. The common factor? They’ve both played the Nats
bravofan
April 13th, 2009
9:36 am
Hanson over jojo definetly!!!!
PMC
April 13th, 2009
9:46 am
Awesome SWEEP! Well done Braves, Way to take care of business.
PWHjort
April 13th, 2009
9:47 am
This blog eats posts like Bob Wickman eats big macs.
Genius
April 13th, 2009
9:49 am
It doesn’t eat posts!
At some point your posts will show up!
Jim
April 13th, 2009
9:50 am
The Braves have only 1 SB, an opportunistic, heads-up play by McCann, but they have used their speed very effectively this last week — KJ stretching a single into a 2B when Harris didn’t cover 2B, Diaz stretching his hit into a 2B yesterday, Schafer and Diaz beating out infield hits. There is more to base running than stolen bases, and they Braves have played an aggressive running game so far this year.
Hanson struggled in the last ST appearance, and was only able to go 4.1 innings in his AAA debut due to high pitch count. He should not be the first option the Braves use if a fifth starter is needed on Saturday. Depending on the BP situation, the Braves may go with Campillo in that start, but he would be unlikely to be able to go more than 5 innings, if that (same with Buddy), and that would overextend the rest of the pen. My odds would be Morton (35%), Reyes (25%), Campillo (25%), Hanson (10%), Buddy (5%).
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:52 am
Yeah, but by the time they do show up it’s irrelevant.
bravofan
April 13th, 2009
9:53 am
Nice start of the season Braves taking 2 out of 3 from the World Champs and then a SWEEP of the NL East Nationals!!!! Anybody know how much longer until Hudson is back?
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:56 am
That’s was a pretty nice triple by Charles Thomas, don’t you guys agree?
spotts
April 13th, 2009
9:57 am
%#$& blog!
DAP
April 13th, 2009
9:59 am
haha, spotts…good one!
LT- A Blogger
April 13th, 2009
10:02 am
Really looking forward to this Marlins series. I think it’ll be a good barometer to see exactly where this team is. It is going to be a lot more difficult to get 2 out RBIs, and I’m interested to see what type of power numbers we can put up against the Fish.
As far as Hanson, I think I’d rather see Morton or Reyes replace Glavine for short term spot starts this early in the season. If Hanson came up and was mowing folks down, how painful will it be if he gets sent back down when Glavine is ready?
If/when he gets called up this year, I’m hoping it will be in mid July/August for the stretch run. I have this gut feeling that we will see Glavine retire sometime during this season. I may be wrong but it’s just a feeling.
vabravesfan
April 13th, 2009
10:04 am
my bad spotts didn’t even notice but meant tomorrow as in tuesday is when tommy hanson will be pitching
Hum?
April 13th, 2009
10:04 am
Saw the artical on Gene Garber (nice). What ever happened to Buzz Capra?
DAP
April 13th, 2009
10:08 am
who do we have pitching in this series…vazquez, lowe, kawakami? i think the braves have a good chance to take 2 of 3…weve been hitting well and pitching well, so we should put u runs while limiting the damage…
by the way, (i havent blogged all weekend, so im gonna look back for a moment) kawakami looked good in his season debut with 8 K’s. very nice!it seemed like he followed the MO for other japanese pitchers weve seen. high pitch count, puts alot of guys on base, ect. but he got the job done. our starters have been great so far.
N Nine
April 13th, 2009
10:09 am
Is Glavine getting looked at today. I still think his bonuses will be attained eventually.
Jodi
April 13th, 2009
10:09 am
I’m guessing that OBP means “on base percentage” but what does OPS mean?
David O'Brien
April 13th, 2009
10:10 am
How many out there in the Atlanta metro area have no electricity right now? I’m powerless, and p’d.
I always forget how much virtually everything I want to do around the house depends on electricity, including what I’m doing now once this battery runs down on my Mac Powerbook.
N Nine
April 13th, 2009
10:11 am
“by the way, (i havent blogged all weekend, so im gonna look back for a moment)” Good luck with that! pages and pages of non-stop fun!
David O'Brien
April 13th, 2009
10:14 am
Jodi, that’s actually kinda refreshing that you asked. It’s on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS).
Just wait till you start reading all the references to VORP and “adjusted OPS” and everything else that’ll be thrown around here by some denizens on a regular basis…
bravofan
April 13th, 2009
10:15 am
what is WHIP I know it but can’t think of it anyone??
bravofan
April 13th, 2009
10:16 am
spotts: where is Charles Thomas at now he is not still in Oakland is he?
Nick
April 13th, 2009
10:16 am
(Walks + Hits) / Innings Pitches
Nick
April 13th, 2009
10:17 am
Innings Pitched*
vabravesfan
April 13th, 2009
10:17 am
whip – walks plus hits per inning pitched
spotts
April 13th, 2009
10:18 am
vabravesfan – haha, I know what you meant. I just thought Tomm-Tommy sounded funny.
bravofan
April 13th, 2009
10:18 am
thanks Nick and vabravesfan.
Chop Chop
April 13th, 2009
10:18 am
WHIP = Walks plus hits per inning pitched
Chop Chop
April 13th, 2009
10:18 am
hahaha…
Lew
April 13th, 2009
10:22 am
Not to mention fluctuating BABIP’s.
braves4ever
April 13th, 2009
10:22 am
NW Cobb has power but a few small transformers are off due to trees . My power was off just briefly early.
We do get so used to the normal things it just erks us when they don’t work . Hope you get power soon or as my notebook would only last a few hours with heavy usage,you might go dark this morning. But we wasn’t expecting you today anyway DOB ,just Carroll. isn’t it your day off?
Slugger
April 13th, 2009
10:24 am
Went to the game Sat night and sat in the all you can eat seats in CF right behind Schafer.
Anyone done the all you can eat seats yet this year?
It was a great game to watch, and Jordan Schafer’s batspeed is even more unreal in person.
I was tied up all day yesterday, but did we retaliate for Kelly getting hit on Sat night? 2 outs with a base open and a guy that was 3-4 at the plate, it seemed pretty intentional to all the fans in CF at least. Kelly had an amazing game, and really showed balance hitting the ball to all fields.
pryguy
April 13th, 2009
10:25 am
Isn’t it all too obvious? Look at how deep and talented the Braves pitching is? Look at the other teams in the division and their rotation depth? Is it really even comparable. Outside of the Marlins, who look to be a very scary squad, the Mets and Phillies have to wait every 5 days to get a consistent start. We have that ability every night we send someone out to the mound. Why don’t these “baseball experts” open their damn eyes.
vabravesfan
April 13th, 2009
10:26 am
no we didn’t retaliate..they actually threw over mac and infante’s head. Not sure if either was intentional
spotts
April 13th, 2009
10:28 am
I think all 3 incidents were instances of the Nats sucking
ncscoots
April 13th, 2009
10:31 am
One other thing about Morton’s start…richbrave points out his good 2-to-1 strikes ratio, so he was probably pitching ahead in the count, for the most part. Also (OK, two things, LOL), ten of his twelve Ks were swinging. So, hitters gearing up for Morton’s fastball at strike three were still not able to catch up to it, were unable to adjust to Morton’s secondary pitches, or both. It doesn’t appear he was trying to finesse anybody. So, the strikes ratio and the swinging Ks say, to me, that he was pitching aggressively, and that’s a good sign for a guy with Morton’s history.
Chop Chop
April 13th, 2009
10:32 am
My favorite part of last night’s ESPN broadcast was Joe Morgan’s approval of OPS because, I’m paraphrasing here, “the best guys have the top numbers.” For a guy who goes on and on about how wins are the most important stat for a pitcher (they’re the most important stat for a team, not an individual player), you’d think he would have the baseball knowledge inside of him to see the contradiction.
vabravesfan
April 13th, 2009
10:32 am
Yea it wouldn’t surprise me if thats the reason. Infante’s was on a curveball so definitely didn’t do that on purpose. The only one that might have been maybe Kelly but got to remember that he stands right up on the plate so thats going to happen to him when he is leaning over the plate and smacking the ball around the yard because they are going to come in to make him honest.
Slugger
April 13th, 2009
10:45 am
Great Weekend!
Braves sweep and Elon sweeps College of Charleston to take sole possession of 1st place in the SoCon (Georgia Southern is #2).
Check out the offensive #s for my alum:
http://org.elon.edu/athletics/stats/bb/teamcume.htm
What's that smell?
April 13th, 2009
10:46 am
The only retaliation from Bobby Cox will be ripping one while handing out the lineup card.
Slugger
April 13th, 2009
10:46 am
Each player in the starting lineup has an .OPS over 1.000!
Slugger
April 13th, 2009
10:49 am
(sorry the .OPS comment was supposed to be included on the previous post about the Elon hitters).
With 2 out and 1B open, do you all think Kelly was dosed up intentionally.
I believe he was, 100%. Maybe their closer was trying to send a message that he was getting some work but the Braves shouldn’t get too comfortable digging in.
Anyone else try the all you can eat thing?
chip off the ol block
April 13th, 2009
10:50 am
looking forward to this new series against the fish, should be some great games ahead of us, does anyone know what pitchers we are facing?? i think i herd it in yesterday’s game but not for sure
with Javy Derek and KK up i think we’ll go very deep into the games possible sweep, but i think we’ll probably win 2 games, if not 3
Jim
April 13th, 2009
11:00 am
The key to the Marlins series is patient ABs, build up the pitch count on the starters and get into that weak Marlins pen early in the game.
Jim
April 13th, 2009
11:01 am
Of course, the strategy should be the same for the Fish, but, for the most part, they have very aggressive hitters. The other big key for us is to keep Bonafacio off the bases.
McFann ;Ô;
April 13th, 2009
11:04 am
OK, well, I was just typing a post touting that we had power when the power goes out. But hey, it stayed out a maximum time of one minute.
A tree fell at the entrance to our neighborhood, just missing our AT&T box…came thisclose to repeated our Christmas adventure, only with a tree, not a truck…guess it woulda just become a holiday tradition, then…
McFann ;Ô;
April 13th, 2009
11:07 am
Jim The other big key for us is to keep Bonifacio off the bases.
Yeah, ya know, there have been no SB attempts against us thus far.No…no, I didn’t say that…you didn’t read that…
N8
April 13th, 2009
11:11 am
test
N8
April 13th, 2009
11:12 am
test#2
Random
April 13th, 2009
11:12 am
Slugger (10:24 am): “Went to the game Sat night and sat in the all you can eat seats in CF right behind Schafer.”
What all did you eat? What else (if anything) was available?
N8
April 13th, 2009
11:13 am
Hey, at least the posts labeled test and test#2 came through. Too bad the other two with actual text in them didn’t.
Blog is broke.
N8
April 13th, 2009
11:13 am
This
N8
April 13th, 2009
11:15 am
Genius, your 9:49 post is wrong. It’s “eating” a bunch of them.
Random
April 13th, 2009
11:16 am
DOB: “Backup catcher David Ross (groin strain) is expected to go on rehab Tuesday and Wednesday, then be activated for Thursday’s game against Florida, the first day he’s eligible.”
Kawakami starts Thursday, right?
As far as you know, do the Braves definitely plan to have Ross regularly catch Kawakami?