2:53 pm April 8, 2009, by David O'Brien
April 8th, 20095:13 pm
After all the worrying and crying about Javy Vazquez, there it is. Six innings, three runs and you know what they call that: A Quality Start
Quality Start (or so they tell us).
Give Vazquez a little credit, the weather, wind and cold don’t help.
Rob from SC
Vazquez had the one tough inning, but he pitched well. Good first start
Back to back strikeouts, probably ending JV’s day… Quality Start!
Got him…. strikeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee out!!
Andrew in P-tang
how many k’s is that for javy now?
April 8th, 20095:14 pm
nice work Javy …
Oh I guess I was a little late there
Schafer is on pace to hit 108 hr’s this year. Of course, that’s based on him playing all 162 games. Also, this is a hitter’s ballpark. So, more than likely, he won’t hit quite that many. Tom O’Hawke
Really? You think he’ll fall short of the 108 mark? That’s a bold prediction
April 8th, 20095:15 pm
ncsroots, Joseph, Caltom, McPoyle -
I said I don’t undestand where the early praise is for his defense as an ‘elite’ CF, but I also said I can understand why he’s having to adjust (new parks).
I mentioned I’m an ex-CF only to tell you all I knew something about playing CF… I’m not comparing myself to Jordan Schafer, he’s a far better player than I ever was.
And no, I didn’t play softball. I filled out a draft questionnaire for these very ATL Braves and Phillies, so if you can do that playing softball then I musta been a heck of a softball player
So, while we’ve all seen Jordan perform to various degrees of a CF, we all judge a CF by different merits.
He’ll definitely be a great all-around player, but I’m not sold on him being an ‘elite’ CF.
Time will tell, and please don’t try to belittle my analysis of a player by questioning my knowledge or past with baseball.
Wow, JV’s pitching line is going to look a LOT better than it felt, but the results are what matter. 3 games, 3 quality starts for Braves pitching. Although I now understand all the frustration White Sox fans have felt the past few years.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
Do you think McCann can hit that 108 HR mark? I mean, he’s on pace for that as well…. and a more established hitter than Schafer….
April 8th, 20095:16 pm
I think the ump decides before the pitch if he will call a strike
April 8th, 20095:17 pm
slugger, you’re a cobb county dork
Kotch with the double off the wall.
April 8th, 20095:18 pm
Slugger, well said.
Who says Kotchman can’t hit???
April 8th, 20095:19 pm
wouldnt mind seeing frenchy get another one in
April 8th, 20095:20 pm
Bad AB by Frenchy. You have to get that runner to 3rd Jeff.
damn you feliz.
April 8th, 20095:21 pm
bravesfaninmetsland, I’m usually not that bold. Maybe it’s the beer talking.
sickofugafans sounds like he is frenchies daddy
You need to earn the right to have your opinions taken seriously here. No offense intended, but that is the way it is.
Put your opinions in play and see what people think. That is the way it works.
April 8th, 20095:22 pm
The problem for McCann is we know he’ll get more off-days, so he’ll be lucky to reach 80 homers.
Schafer’s got a good eye.
April 8th, 20095:23 pm
Anybody know how Hanson pitched today? Or is that tomorrow?
Is Davidson Co in Nashville Cobb County?
Please define ‘Cobb County Dork’ with your supreme intelligence because obviously Cobb County residents are dorks?
Thanks for that analysis? I’d ask you what county you were from, but then I’d be like you: of the belief that one’s county matters to/for anything/anyone.
Btw, I’m really glad the offense is producing today…with Chipper’s hand hurting I wouldn’t want him to feel pressure to pinch hit late in the game and possibly aggravate it more.
Hahaha well slow down there Tom, don’t want you coming up with any other crazy comments. I’m just jealous I have to go back to work and can’t join you in the drinking just yet
DWW I think that is tomorrow
April 8th, 20095:24 pm
DWW — Gwinnett Braves and Hanson start tomorrow. I mistakenly thought it was today earlier.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan, it’s going to be tougher for McCann. As a catcher, he’ll be sitting a lot more than Schafer. But hey, you never know.
April 8th, 20095:25 pm
bases loaded for infante.
Nice pinch walk for Norton
Vazquez 61 strikes in 102 pitches, three runs on five hits, four walks with five strikeouts. Quality start, third in a row for Braves.
Braves have allowed four runs in 24 innings so far, including three in 19-2/3 by starters.
You need to earn the right to have your opinions taken seriously here. No offense intended, but that is the way it is.
Actually it’s a blog. I thought it would be nice to share information once in a while on matters that I could relate to (since I was pretty baseball-heavy for 17 years).
If no one here wants to listen to what I have to say, I have no problem. I think some people can recognize/appreciate what something with experience has to say about any subject. If that audience doesn’t exist either, I’ll go back to lurking.
April 8th, 20095:26 pm
DSS- did you hear the man? “don’t belittle my analysis”. said slugger.
Time will tell.
excellent work Norton! Roll the lineup over!
walk some runs in baby.
April 8th, 20095:27 pm
ahahaha walked in a run.
No “mercy rule” after the 7th, pour it on.
Awwwww…are the poor Phillie fans upset?
Durbin walks in a run, 10-3 now
Scouts are sold on him being an elite CF. They matter.
Did anyone else notice on Gameday that Norton “Loves to face: Four-seam” and “hates to face: Four-seam”
Let’s hear those boos philly fans.
I knew I’d like Infante in ATL, a season later I’m still lovin’ it!
April 8th, 20095:28 pm
come on Kelly! Join the hits party!
April 8th, 20095:29 pm
Right Slugger. Is Flange like the AJC police?
bravesfaninmetsland, don’t get jealous, my friend. I was only kidding. It’s a little early for me, too. Actually, and I am almost embarrassed to say this, I’m drinking raspberry tea.
What scouts? Do you know any, ever met any?
I’m tired of defending this because the more I talk the more it looks like I’m arguing Schafer isn’t good in the OF.
He’s good, has a cannon, and is an unbelievable runner.
I think that he does need to continue working in the OF to realize the ‘elite’ potential the scouts recognize.
Now that we’re all clear…
Kelly could use a big hit here to salvage his day….I’ve got the impression he’s been a bit frustrated with the ball-strike calls the first couple of games (though still working counts really well).
April 8th, 20095:30 pm
You don’t have the right to say that here. You need to earn it!
April 8th, 20095:31 pm
I think you are missing the point. You said something about Jordan S.’s defense and questioned his ability in the field. To backup your point you said you were an x-CF.
Scoots (who I have read on this blog for 3+ years and know that he has seen Jordan play MANY minor league games) disagreed with you.
You then get huffy.
Dude, it is a blog, but you put your opinions out there and the group will react.
It ain’t always positive. You can’t make people agree with you.
We all get knocked around when we are right and wrong. Don’t take it so personally.
Some read some comments others read all comments. I try to read all comments from all posters. I am interested in reading your thoughts and scoots thoughts even if they disagree.
Damn Slugger I’m on your side
April 8th, 20095:32 pm
What did Kelly do to offend this umpire?
Slugger, I played the game and covered it for five years as a writer. On here, it doesn’t read like a credential. It reads as a smug comment to diminish others’ opinion(s). Probably best to just state why you think Jordan is good, great, or elite. IMO, there is no way anyone could evaluate his defensive prowess this early in his career. Let’s talk about it in a month when we have a larger sample size.
As a practical matter, trying to judge his talent this early sort of hurts the credibility.
April 8th, 20095:33 pm
No kidding….he is getting terrible calls today.
Nothing more about ‘Cobb County dorks?’
From what I’ve heard, the kids in Cobb Co these days are far from dorks. I hear the drug(other than the green plant) problem is outrageous.
Yeah, Kelly’s not getting any close calls with this guy. That’s 3 at bats that were borderline calls against him.
Is it just ESPN’s gamecast or have the umpires for the last two games been completely blind?
yeah game starts at like 11 am for school kids promotion
oh kelly kelly kelly…that hurts
Technically, JJJ’s wasn’t a QS as defined by the rules (6IP 3ER or less, he was pulled after 5 2/3), but I’ll consider it one in that park.
April 8th, 20095:34 pm
DOB – weather forcast for ATL from NWS
Friday: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after 2pm. Some of the storms could be severe. Cloudy, with a high near 72. South wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%.
Friday Night: A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms before 2am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 55. West wind around 10 mph.
I dunno…did he kick his dog or something?
Seriously, though–that ump is kind of inconsistent.
April 8th, 20095:35 pm
Fire Frank Wren – now!
Get rid of Bobby Cox – we’ll never be good again until he is gone!
Huh? What? Am I off cue or something?
Arizona Brave – I’m watching the game on MLB.com’s gamecast, so unless they use the same equipment (very possible), I’d say the umpire is blind (and he must think that Kelly Johnson went out with his daughter and never called her back).
Steve from OH
Slugger, I hate to get caught in the crossfire, but here goes: I think Schafer may be having trouble reading balls because the ML ballparks have two or three large decks, somthing that you don’t typically see in minor league parks (esp. low minor league parks). Reading a popfly thru the stands is pretty tricky. You can kinda tell that he seems to be having a little bit of trouble getting an initial read on the ball.
My two cents, that’s all.
April 8th, 20095:36 pm
Jimmy Rollins is 1-for-13 in this series.
Lowe said going in the gameplan began with keeping him off the bases and making those middle-of-the-order guys hit with nobody on.
Don’t get so touchy or you won’t enjoy it around here for long. I appreciate your insights but when on a blog, it is hard for people to gauge other people’s credentials. You stated your opinion with a great deal of confidence. Don’t expect that everyone is going to bow down and agree with you. I have much less experience playing baseball than you and I’ve never seen Schafer in person but the scouting reports suggest that he could be an above average CF. You disagree with the professionals and various writers. So be it. Time will tell whether you are correct.
April 8th, 20095:37 pm
I know, i was being sarcastic and going along with you.
Kelly is known for taking girls out for seafood dinners and never calling back.
April 8th, 20095:38 pm
slugger I know…. damn andrew could have caught that ball
By the way, Tim Timmons is NOT calling a good game today. Yeesh.
April 8th, 20095:39 pm
It’s also possible that Kelly went to middle school with the umpire’s son and used to bully him during recess, and wouldn’t let him hang out with the “cool” kids.
Slugger, this is what Baseball Prospectus wrote about Schafer over the Winter:
“He’s a 60 runner [on the 20-80 scale] and an even better center fielder because of his outstanding instincts, with one scout adding, “I don’t think I ever saw him break wrong on a ball.” His arm is another weapon due to both its strength and accuracy.”
Just type into google “Jordan Schafer Scouting Report” and I’m sure you’ll see plenty of other accounts about how great with the glove he is.
April 8th, 20095:40 pm
coming apart for O’Flaherty
April 8th, 20095:41 pm
Good chance to give Mike Gonzalez a rest today. Clean it up long distance bullpen!
April 8th, 2009
slugger I know…. damn andrew could have caught that ball”
the only thing Andruw catches now are burgers tossed in his general direction
The Irish lad gave big Ryan a little sting to add to the Phils’ series misery
Piedmont Blues (formerly BravesFan InRockies)
Greetings, denizens –
Gee whiz, you stay off the site for a couple of days (as you move 1,600 miles) and the Bravos look like the ‘27 Yankees. Maybe I’ll stay away more often.
The good news: Back in Carolina (where we won it all, in case you hadn’t heard).
The bad news: I’ll rarely smell another Atlanta Braves game unless I cough up Extra Innings or MLB.TV money or ESPN shows a lot of them.
The better news: I’m both gainfully employed and in the Triangle, so I can see Gwinnett and Mississippi play pretty often vs. the local minor leaguers. In fact, if all goes according to plan, Tommy Hanson will pitch for Gwinnett in Durham Tuesday vs. David Price. May need to buy advance tix for that one.
April 8th, 20095:42 pm
i’m loving these games! Braves are exciting, it’s been a while. I want to see Campillo pitch some though. Also, just a thought for whoever wants to answer (random I know): Like A-Rod?
Ron in mobile
Given the circumstances…i dont mind him plunking Howard
And don’t pull that “have you ever personally talked to one” crap. I don’t have to personally know scouts to be able to hear what they think about people. There are legitimate websites that publish that information. It isn’t necessary to personally know scouts in order to use their opinions in arguments.
BGVT or for that matter all -
Sorry for coming off as arrogant or too confident.
Never the intent, noted, and I’ll make sure to be more respectful when trying to share past baseball experiences or insider knowledge.
I’d never try to diminish anyone’s love of baseball by mentioning that I played or that I know everyting about baseball. I thought sharing what I do know would be something people would like to know or hear about.
I’ve said since the first post he’s already a good CF, but I do not think he’s currently an ‘elite’ CF. That’s all. Im a huge Braves fan and a big JS fan, so I hope he is/becomes the elite CF!
In that case, KJ deserves it. I officially apologize to the ump for calling him vision impaired.
O’giveitupboy better hope none of our guys get hit and injured now.. Because that was a nasty one delivered to Howard!
A-Roid needs to hang it up.
Welcome back, Peter Moylan!!
April 8th, 20095:43 pm
(And on the one-year ann. of his 50-game suspension) DOB
I’m as giddy as a school-girl!Roman Gal
Yep, I’m right there with you Roman Gal, and I’m not a girl, that’s how crazy I feel about our new CF!
AUSSIE, AUSSIE, AUSSIE!!!
was it the type of pitch that we garner retalliation
April 8th, 20095:44 pm
The superhoo….. I know that
11 months ago today he had Tommy John Surgery. Unbelievable.
I want a bloomin onion now.
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