DCBrave they did get some hits in that inning and as Jeff francoeur has shown us in the past just because it’s not a strike doesn’t mean you can’t swing at it. Face it man, bad pitching or not, the Phillies have that never say die kind of attitude. Let’s just say if we had that score down 7 runs in the 7th I don’t think we would have come back. just my opinion.
Bobby Cox, the idiot we’ve all come to want to choke, is back. His loyalty will never change. Leaves pitchers in too long. Un f*cking believable. The man is the definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. How many bad pitches must a manager see before pulling someone. What a joke.
3rd game of the season…get off the bandwagon yall….go ahead and get off so the real fans can manage. Yup, worst pitched game we’ll prob see in a while….159 more to go, so relax.
Wait for the post game interview. The Bobby spin machine will sound like we have the best Bullpen in the Majors but they are just a little tired, or a little rusty, or a little under the weather, or just had an off day or a thousand and one other “Bobbyisms”.
so- first Chipper goes down, followed quickly by Garret Anderson. Then the pen hits the self-destruct button. I am having horrible thoughts that the next thing we see is Mac taking a foul ball off his collarbone and…(image is too disturbing for afamily friendly blog)
Maybe Wren got us starting pitchers in the offseason, now we will have to lose another 90 games this season. Who know maybe Wren can completely replace the bullpen in the next offseason
This doesn’t even happen in little league lol and should NEVER happen in the bigs. How is it possible for every pithce rin your bullpen to suc on the same day.
Come to think about it. With these many pitchers struggled all together in one inning this bad, it should be the problem of the pitching coach. A good one should be able to stop the bleeding at around the time Moylan was pitching or right after him.
Also it seems like there is this culture of coward in the pen: nobody wants to be aggressive enough to surrender a homer to be blamed.
1. Bobby Cox is in the dugout, you’re on your keyboard… enough said.
2. Part of the process early in the season is evaluating pitchers getting themselves out of jams.
3. Boyer was pulled after 9 pitches… so do you give them a lower pitch count than that before you pull them?
“We are overreacting to that last inning. It almost like a fluke that that could happen. There is no way our guys will do that ever again. Its a one time thing.” – Schafer’s Wafers
There in is the reason to over react. It’s a one in a million chance to happen, and it happens to you!!!! It’s akin to winning the lottery, and what do you do then, you over react.
Hmmm. Left to go pick up the kids from school with a 9-3 lead. Bragged to my son that Jordan Schafer and McCann hit HR again today, only to turn the TV on to see it’s 11-10 Philly.
Some things never change. Teams that can’t hold 9-3 leads are NOT going to be playing in October.
I’m having a hard time determining what’s worse — Kelly looking at a third strike with the bases loaded or the bullpen’s complete and utter lack of competence today.
I’m going with the latter. The former was pretty bad, too, but on the economy of scale, this bullpen performance has been one of the worst in Braves history. I mean, cataclysmically bad. The Titanic, Hindenburg, Krakatoa and Vesuvius all rolled into one.
How you blow a seven run lead is beyond me
It takes a group effort, vabrave31. Everyone has to be on the same page and work really hard. Put in max effort. Really try their very best. Give it their all. (did i miss any?)
Blaine Boyer? Jeff Bennett? Eric O’FallonYourFace?
Where the hell is Buddy Carlyle? Why’d we wait to bring in Campillo so late into this debacle? Why would we simply toss Moylan in, expecting him to just be his same ol’ self after nearly a season away from live action? The man HAS to lack full confidence until he works his way towards it!!!
Our weakness has been exposed with this calamity. This is one area of the pitching staff that looks scary-awful. Boyer and the Irish lefty seemed to make the team just because we had to fill the roster spots with SOMEbody.
It’ll be interesting to see the mental makeup of this squad, should they (in all probability) lose this game. Will they bounce back and come home to dominate a Nationals’ squad they SHOULD wipe the floor with? Or will they, as in seasons’ past, lose 2 of 3 and come out of this shellacking all moribund?
No offense, but, how can any of you think this is Bobby’s fault? I don’t believe he told anyone to go out there and walk 6 guys in an inning. Major league pitchers should be able to combine to pitch 3 innings without giving up 7 RUNS. Not Bobby’s fault.
Bullpen let 8 of 10 “inherited runners” score. Sounds like 2008 all over again only this time it took 3 games for them to get where they were after 6 weeks last year.
At least Bennett threw strikes. Make them earn their runs. Maybe Bobby should have gone to him instead of Campillo. All that is hindsight now. Bad bullpen, bad umpiring. Only thing that can salvage this is if Lidge blows his first save of the season. Then i’ll feel a little redemption for this game but it is only one game. This hurts but it shouldn’t kill us.
WOW I came home from work, saw the score was still 9-3 in the 7th and decided to go ahead and get my run in. Never in a million years expected to come back to this. Brad Lidge? Forgetaboutit. Phillies win. Now I gotta go back and see where it all went horribly horribly wrong.
You think Wren would have kept Boyer, Bennett and Campillo if Bobby had said “they’ve gotta go”??? It is always the Manager’s fault. He is the Manager. The buck stops there!
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Blaine Boyer is a big tub of goo
April 8th, 2009
6:22 pm
A blogger claims: “Boyer just doesn’t have that intangible.”
Yes, he does. Goo is amorphous and so, by definition, intangible.
MFin04
April 8th, 2009
6:22 pm
One of a Lidge maybe….2…no way in HELL
Arizona Brave
April 8th, 2009
6:22 pm
Hey, I’d rather the Braves know now that they need bullpen help, than to wait till the deadline to get reason enough to make a trade.
Roja
April 8th, 2009
6:22 pm
Where is Hansen when we need him?
Canadaian braves fan
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
we got an OUT
J williams
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
Is the wind taking all of the Brave’s pitchers pitches out of the strike zone?
Jake W.
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
DCBrave they did get some hits in that inning and as Jeff francoeur has shown us in the past just because it’s not a strike doesn’t mean you can’t swing at it. Face it man, bad pitching or not, the Phillies have that never say die kind of attitude. Let’s just say if we had that score down 7 runs in the 7th I don’t think we would have come back. just my opinion.
ground_fog
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
I get post of the day if this holds up I said 12-10 earlier lol hope i’m wrong.
Herschel Talker
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
Bobby Cox, the idiot we’ve all come to want to choke, is back. His loyalty will never change. Leaves pitchers in too long. Un f*cking believable. The man is the definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. How many bad pitches must a manager see before pulling someone. What a joke.
Rob from SC
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
our pen SUCKS
Slugger
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
Jeff Bennett looks like he stole all the weight Brian McCann lost in the offseason.
ground_fog
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
I’m going to buy a lottery ticket i’ll be back later geez
MFin04
April 8th, 2009
6:23 pm
#@@$ #@$@#$ ^%$^%$ #@%%%$# %%$%#$^()
Jeff
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
Bobby,
Is the MOST OVER RATED coach in MLB!! He was SOOOO SLOW to pull MOYLAN.
He let the crowd get back into the game. BRAIN DEAD!!!
N Nine
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
Fire Boyer
Stephen
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
I just had a dream that the bullpen gave up 8 runs in the bottom of the 7th. Oh, it wasn’t a dream? Shoot me.
Josephw000
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
3rd game of the season…get off the bandwagon yall….go ahead and get off so the real fans can manage. Yup, worst pitched game we’ll prob see in a while….159 more to go, so relax.
Dallas, but not in Dallas
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
At least it won’t be a one run loss
Jennifer
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
So did everyones jaw hit the floor?lol
jonatuga
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
an 0-2 count!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roja
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
Wait for the post game interview. The Bobby spin machine will sound like we have the best Bullpen in the Majors but they are just a little tired, or a little rusty, or a little under the weather, or just had an off day or a thousand and one other “Bobbyisms”.
bravos2249
April 8th, 2009
6:24 pm
JIM
What effin fans wouldn’t be po’d when your team is winning 10-3 in the 7th and are now losing 12-10…when the other team only got 4 hits?
That Guy
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
This bullpen sucks more than a hooker using a vacuum cleaner.
cabravesfan
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
so- first Chipper goes down, followed quickly by Garret Anderson. Then the pen hits the self-destruct button. I am having horrible thoughts that the next thing we see is Mac taking a foul ball off his collarbone and…(image is too disturbing for afamily friendly blog)
Blaine Boyer is a big tub of goo
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Looks like Boyer has contaminated the entire Braves’ bullpen.
The Goo needs to be cordoned off.
Arizona Brave
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Time to sacrifice a run for an out?
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Chipper is hurt and the blowpen has returned. At least we won the the three games series before our Bravos imploded.
lvp
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Maybe Wren got us starting pitchers in the offseason, now we will have to lose another 90 games this season. Who know maybe Wren can completely replace the bullpen in the next offseason
ground_fog
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
This doesn’t even happen in little league lol and should NEVER happen in the bigs. How is it possible for every pithce rin your bullpen to suc on the same day.
TheAntiMe
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
What the hey, I guess we still beat them 2 out of 3.
ArkyTech
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
After all those walks, we’re pitching to a guy that we should intentionally walk.
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
I dont’ care about this game anymore. Just make it stop… make it stop… make it stop…
Slugger
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Roja -
“Where is Hansen when we need him?”
He’s on To Catch an IPOD theif (or predator) on NBC…
Sorry, trying to get a laugh to lighten the mood after this disaster of a performance by the bullpen.
That Guy
April 8th, 2009
6:25 pm
Boot the GOO.
Canadaian braves fan
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
arent they nice pitching lines for our Braves
Braves fan
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
all they had to do was throw a few strikes and make them put the ball in play and we would have had this one. But noooooooooooo….
Choppinmama
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
What a revoltin’ development……………
SOS
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
Hey Cox. Put Boyer in tomorrow so you can show him you have faith in him you fool.
DCBrave
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
Come to think about it. With these many pitchers struggled all together in one inning this bad, it should be the problem of the pitching coach. A good one should be able to stop the bleeding at around the time Moylan was pitching or right after him.
Also it seems like there is this culture of coward in the pen: nobody wants to be aggressive enough to surrender a homer to be blamed.
bravos2249
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
I mean honestly if Moylan or Boyer would’ve just giving up a Gland Slam…when the bases were 1st loaded… I’d feel better…atleast we’d still be winning
Matthew
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
Hey Herschel:
1. Bobby Cox is in the dugout, you’re on your keyboard… enough said.
2. Part of the process early in the season is evaluating pitchers getting themselves out of jams.
3. Boyer was pulled after 9 pitches… so do you give them a lower pitch count than that before you pull them?
sidslidkid
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
It was 10 to f***ing 3!!!!
vabrave31
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
How you blow a seven run lead is beyond me. The ‘pen might as well not have even shown up today.
Braves fan
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
See , even down the middle of the plate Rollins couldn’t hit it
Mitchell
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
At least we know we can hit and score runs without getting 15 walks in an inning.
Let them have a game for crying out loud. Enjoy it Philly, you still got your asses kicked.
Maybe we can get to Lidge who almost blew every save chance against us last year.
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:26 pm
If we tried to intentionally walk someone, we might actually throw strikes.
Rollins must feel like an idiot.
Daybed Wagmoe
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
Well at least we can hope for Brad Lidge blowing his first save opportunity since coming to Philadelphia — right guys?
jerry
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
As to when Moylan will retire his first batter, the over and under is July 4th.
J williams
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
“We are overreacting to that last inning. It almost like a fluke that that could happen. There is no way our guys will do that ever again. Its a one time thing.” – Schafer’s Wafers
There in is the reason to over react. It’s a one in a million chance to happen, and it happens to you!!!! It’s akin to winning the lottery, and what do you do then, you over react.
RC
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
WAIT! They are allowed to strike-out?!?!?!
ND Braves
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
hopefully the bullpen can bounce back from this… it’s definitely gotta sting. lidge is going to eventually blow one, let’s get the bats going!!!!
N8
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
Hmmm. Left to go pick up the kids from school with a 9-3 lead. Bragged to my son that Jordan Schafer and McCann hit HR again today, only to turn the TV on to see it’s 11-10 Philly.
Some things never change. Teams that can’t hold 9-3 leads are NOT going to be playing in October.
Hmm. Wonder if we can make contact against Lidge?
MFin04
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
DEAR LORD GIV US A MIRACLLLLLLLLLLLLeeeeeee
Roja
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
Well, we got .071 Rollins out. Maybe we can get .167 Victorino too.
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
I predict attendance will be down for the home opener…
RC
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
Alright, let’s just get 3 off of Lidge and hold them in the 9th
VENEZUELA
April 8th, 2009
6:27 pm
Is this for REAL ? I mean our bullpen is absolutely pathetic!
FW is this a competitive and championship caliber team? LOL either u are lying or you dont know baseball my friend
brewdawg
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
Bennett did some nice work there, to keep a glimmer of hope alive.
winterville
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
Pretty bad day when Bennett is the only one who can throw strikes.
StingerSplash
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
I’m having a hard time determining what’s worse — Kelly looking at a third strike with the bases loaded or the bullpen’s complete and utter lack of competence today.
I’m going with the latter. The former was pretty bad, too, but on the economy of scale, this bullpen performance has been one of the worst in Braves history. I mean, cataclysmically bad. The Titanic, Hindenburg, Krakatoa and Vesuvius all rolled into one.
N8
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
Sorry DOB, but if you’re stunned that Blaine Boyer can’t get the job done, at this point, I’m not sure what to say to you.
cabravesfan
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
How you blow a seven run lead is beyond me
It takes a group effort, vabrave31. Everyone has to be on the same page and work really hard. Put in max effort. Really try their very best. Give it their all. (did i miss any?)
MFin04
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
NOT A ONE TIME THING….THE BULLPEN HAS SUCKED SINCE LAST YEAR….SPRING TRAINING THIS YEAR….ETC.
N Nine
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
8 of 9 pitches were balls what else you need matthew
Carson
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
TAKE BOYER OFF THE TEAM. AND TELL HIM TO TUCK IN HIS JESUS NECKLACE, WHAT A PUNK.
Paul
April 8th, 2009
6:28 pm
It’s messed up when Rollins is the easiest out on the Phillies on any day.
Jeff Blauser
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
Frenchy single, Schafer walk, Chipper pinch HR
Braves fan
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
Is Mark Wohlers still bouncing them off the screen anywhere? How about Rocker??
N8
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
But hey… Boyer’s from the Atlanta area, so god forbid he EARN his way onto the roster.
Smyrna Jim
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
I hope I have enough rum left to get through this…
Blaine Boyer is a big tub of goo
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
In Goo we trust. NOT!
Joe
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
RALLY TIME!!!! Let’s knock Lights out Lidge around
DA BULLPEN SUCKS
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
I’m still in shock
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
I didn’t know an entire bullpen of pitchers could become incompetent all at the same time. The same inning. Ouch.
Ron Roberts
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
Blaine Boyer? Jeff Bennett? Eric O’FallonYourFace?
Where the hell is Buddy Carlyle? Why’d we wait to bring in Campillo so late into this debacle? Why would we simply toss Moylan in, expecting him to just be his same ol’ self after nearly a season away from live action? The man HAS to lack full confidence until he works his way towards it!!!
Our weakness has been exposed with this calamity. This is one area of the pitching staff that looks scary-awful. Boyer and the Irish lefty seemed to make the team just because we had to fill the roster spots with SOMEbody.
It’ll be interesting to see the mental makeup of this squad, should they (in all probability) lose this game. Will they bounce back and come home to dominate a Nationals’ squad they SHOULD wipe the floor with? Or will they, as in seasons’ past, lose 2 of 3 and come out of this shellacking all moribund?
zmerk13
April 8th, 2009
6:29 pm
No offense, but, how can any of you think this is Bobby’s fault? I don’t believe he told anyone to go out there and walk 6 guys in an inning. Major league pitchers should be able to combine to pitch 3 innings without giving up 7 RUNS. Not Bobby’s fault.
TheAntiMe
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
So what is the bullpen ERA now this year about 800.888? Well, that’s still 110 runs under the pens’ ERA for last year.
Roja
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
Bullpen let 8 of 10 “inherited runners” score. Sounds like 2008 all over again only this time it took 3 games for them to get where they were after 6 weeks last year.
That Guy
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
David O’Brien could’ve held that 10-3 lead.
sidslidkid
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
Wow Stephen, thats weird.
NH
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
Can Hanson come out of the pen?
DA BULLPEN SUCKS
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
watch the phills will get all strikes called….
Stephen
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
0-2 Jeff, show us that strike out.
That Guy
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
What a GOOber that Boyer is.
Jake W.
April 8th, 2009
6:30 pm
At least Bennett threw strikes. Make them earn their runs. Maybe Bobby should have gone to him instead of Campillo. All that is hindsight now. Bad bullpen, bad umpiring. Only thing that can salvage this is if Lidge blows his first save of the season. Then i’ll feel a little redemption for this game but it is only one game. This hurts but it shouldn’t kill us.
DA BULLPEN SUCKS
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
omg the ball in the dirt was a strike
RC
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
zmerk13, excellent point. Bobby can’t throw the pitches for them.
RHR
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
WOW I came home from work, saw the score was still 9-3 in the 7th and decided to go ahead and get my run in. Never in a million years expected to come back to this. Brad Lidge? Forgetaboutit. Phillies win. Now I gotta go back and see where it all went horribly horribly wrong.
Roja
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
You think Wren would have kept Boyer, Bennett and Campillo if Bobby had said “they’ve gotta go”??? It is always the Manager’s fault. He is the Manager. The buck stops there!
D-Bo
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
At least Frenchy put a good swing on it……..
Knuckle Sandwich
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
This bullpen makes me want to shoot myself in the face.
Eman
April 8th, 2009
6:31 pm
“Bennett did some nice work there, to keep a glimmer of hope alive.”
I agree, he only gave it one run AND he got 3 outs.
“Some thought it was impossible”
“Give up 1 run ANNND get 3 outs” said Boyer, “in the same inning? It’s just not possible”
bullpen sux
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
get hansen up, it couldn’t hurt matters none,
Josh B
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
I loved that Stephen
PStone
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
Where is Pujols when you need him
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
Cause I’m sure Bobby could have predicted this.
N Nine (Boyer needs to go)
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
Everyone in Phillie forgot they lost the last two games. Crushing blow
DA BULLPEN SUCKS
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
yes HR HR HR HR
6-4-3
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
These are the types of games that made me stop betting.
Kurdt Kobain
April 8th, 2009
6:32 pm
DIAZ I LOVE YOU!!!!