1:12 pm April 4, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
April 4th, 20094:22 pm
Quit trying to pick a fight, man. I wasn’t complaining, just discussing. It’s a mood point anyway, let it go.
April 4th, 20094:25 pm
Whoo-hoo! Spring Training is
Gone like a freight-train, gone like yesterday
Gone like a soldier in the civil war, bang bang
Gone like a ‘59 Cadillac
Like all the good things that ain’t never coming back!
April 4th, 20094:32 pm
yep McFann :Ô:, one heck of an offseason. I’m counting on Mac a bit more since we don’t have Ross for a week or two. Later!
April 4th, 20094:39 pm
Sure was…I’m countin’ on BMac more, now, too. Like, what about that afternoon Wednesday game? Since it’s a DGANGBBDAO, (Day Game After a Night Game But Before a Day Off), I’m just wondering…
But perhaps we should let the season start before we start that kind of wondering, eh?
Bobby said he was a little shocked by Kawakami’s outing, being so off target today…but he chalked it up to a bad day.
April 4th, 20094:40 pm
Hanson’s going to Gwinett? Then KK should be headed to Rome, or Danville…
April 4th, 20094:43 pm
Thanks for the new blog, Carroll! I rarely read them on the weekends, but I wanted to check on how the Braves looked today…I was surprised to see Hanson in the game, as I thought he got sent down to Gwinnett last week. Sorry for the dumb question, but is he back now for some reason?
McFann @ 4:25 – Love the song and I second your enthusiasm!
April 4th, 20094:47 pm
OHBravesGirl, I believe they flew Hanson in by space shuttle during KK’s “walk through the park” inning…
Coach (Skip and Pete will be missed)
April 4th, 20094:48 pm
I don’t know why Cox would be shocked by the effort from Kawakami today. Almost every single Japanese pitcher goes through some sort of adjustment period because the strike zone is so different in Japan.
Jordan Schafer ’s making the team was anti-climatic as was Glavine’s being temporarily DL’ed. 95 percent of this roster was decided long before spring training even began with Schafer being the only surprise.
At any rate, it counts tomorrow.
April 4th, 20094:49 pm
Yeah, it’s a great song. I always blast it through my speakers and/or earbuds after BMac homers. The longer it’s been since his last homer, the louder it gets…and it’s pretty loud after Grand Salamis, too!
“I wasn’t complaining, just discussing.” – PWHjort
nah, you were complaining about how Simpson is not up to your intellectual standards.
You apparently want to hear some sabertooth talk endlessly about VOPR or WARP or some such nonsense. Those things may have some place on relatively obscure blogs – and it’s fine if you want to read that, and regurgitate it to us on this blog – but talking that language should not be the criteria for deciding who brings baseball to the public on radio and tv.
April 4th, 20094:58 pm
DOB When do you arrive in Philly? Have you posted your picks for the final four and the mlb season? Hopefully you will be able to watch the games tonight.
April 4th, 20095:00 pm
That’s your opinion. I have mine too. Are you done?
April 4th, 20095:01 pm
18 Wheels of Love-
I like that “Flair Jordan.” Beside all that you siad, it also indicates it is also “FL Aie Jordan” – he’s from Florida. But again, as they say, he really needs to earn any nick name like that. For now, he’s just Schafer.
April 4th, 20095:02 pm
Here’s your Gwinnett Braves starting rotation: Tommy Hanson, Jo-Jo Reyes, James Parr, Todd Redmond and in the final slot Charlie Morton is eligible to come off the DL and Kris Medlen will get stretched out behind him.
April 4th, 20095:03 pm
Repost with correction:
I like that “Flair Jordan.” Beside all that you said, it also indicates it is “FL Air Jordan” – we know he’s from Florida. But again, as they say, he really needs to earn any nickname like that. For now, he’s just Schafer.
April 4th, 20095:05 pm
Gwinnett has a better staff than some ML teams lol
April 4th, 20095:09 pm
April 4th, 2009
Nice work Oliver Perez! Just got chased away after giving up the first HR(grandslam) in Citi. Went 2/3 inn , 4walks, 6 runs. Mets look ready
The Braves’ new pitcher walked seven batters and gave up four runs in 2-2/3 innings in the team’s final exhibition game.
So I guess that means KK is ready also. As far as your (s)hit list goes, I’m not hard to find. See ya at the Turd when the Mets are in town for sure, and a few other games just for the love of basebell.
April 4th, 20095:12 pm
Some really check (with KK, Hanson, and even Schafer) today is a good thing to all – so we don’t get too carried away.
April 4th, 20095:16 pm
Of course I meant “reality” check. Shoot, I don’t feel good today – maybe it’s that same cherry blossom allergy thing that KK’s got.
April 4th, 20095:25 pm
I think you’ve got some of those cherry blossom allergy thing also with your game summary article. We all got infected. Almost everytime I posted today, I needed to come to correct something.
April 4th, 20095:46 pm
If the GBrave don’t have a good year then they will have no hitting at all. Speaking of: who are the position players?
April 4th, 20095:48 pm
Blanco, Hernandez, Sammons, Conrad(?), Jones, who else?
April 4th, 20095:55 pm
If KK says he never had 7 walks even in a full game, I figure this was just a fluke (until/unless we see it again in the next couple weeks).
As for Hanson, he’s still the best pitching prospect I’ve ever personally seen pitch. That breaking stuff of his is unlike anything I’ve witnessed. It’s like something coming to the plate at 85-90 mph and then about 3/4s the way there careens to the left and down! Like it hit something invisible in mid-air, just amazing. I have no idea how he does it or how anybody ever hits it. Reminds me of that goofy old Fred MacMurray movie who plays a professor/pitcher who invents some stuff to put on the ball that make the bat miss the ball. Can’t wait to see what this guy does over a full season.
April 4th, 20095:58 pm
Who’s Fred McMurray
Rob from SC
April 4th, 20096:02 pm
DOB or Carrol
When Kenshin Kawakami complaing of shoulder soreness, did the medical staff take an MRI or X-ray. I am curious because he really hasn’t been sharp with his control since he missed that start.
April 4th, 20096:03 pm
Some of ya’ll would like to hear Boog and Powell on the mic together, some thinks he’s an ESPN guy working for the Braves. Honestly, I would just like to see his chubby red headed a- announce for another team in the east since he praises every one of our rivals! He’s so annoying with his high pitch, screechy voice that I didn’t even watch most of that game today because of him.
It can’t be a good sign when “Mr. Homer” himself, Joe Simpson doesn’t pick his boys to win the division. I’m kidding on that one a little, but our guys aren’t getting much, if any love for ‘09.
April 4th, 20096:04 pm
It wasn’t Fred McMurray who invented the substance that repelled baseballs. The movie was It Happens Every Spring. May have been an actor named Ray Milland? I just know it wasn’t MacMurray. You’ve confused that role with that of the man who invented Flubber. But I get your point that Hanson’s stuff is quite good.
April 4th, 20096:07 pm
AdirondackDave, you said you can’t see how anybody can even hit a curveball like Hanson’s, but it was obvious that the Tigers hitters were waiting for that curve today, even hit a good one for a single. The fastball was too straight and hit out by a good one in Guillen.
April 4th, 20096:08 pm
Simpson is pretty dumb.
Gaining more cred with me by the moment, PW, LOL. In some circles, we would call that “a pithy observation”.
Carroll, do they see Medlen as a starter long term?
April 4th, 20096:10 pm
DCBrave, how did you know? I actually have what I thought was a fairly bad cold. But come to think of it, I was in DC for the Cherry Blossom festival last weekend….Hmmmm
Another thing goof boy Boog…he is so PERFECT on the mic that it’e really becoming boring listening to him. I mean, does he ever say anything out of the ordinary? I realize that there’s only one Skip, but damn, try and be a little original for all the fans that have to suffer through all of your know it all BS. He doesn’t like the Braves….PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
April 4th, 20096:12 pm
Haha ncscoots, rather. By the way it’s funny that people refer to Sciambi as an “ESPN reporter” because he actually is. He is employed by ESPN and I’ve seen him do everything from high school basketball to the World Baseball Classic.
Wow this team is looking so good at this point, we’re now just taking shots at the announcers? Ease up, kiddos.
April 4th, 20096:14 pm
Either love Simpson or find a new team. That’s all I gotta say.
(is kicking the tires on the Pirates and Rangers)
April 4th, 20096:15 pm
I’ll take Villanova to win it all. That’s right. The underdog. Love how they’ve been playing.
April 4th, 20096:17 pm
patrocket, I ain’t Carroll, but I can tell you the Braves view Medlen as a starter for the long term.
Boog’s from Philly and grew up a Phils fan. He went to high school in NYC. He attended Boston College. He works for ESPN. He acts like stats can be used to determine the worth (and best use) of a player.
It is quite clear that Boog cannot be trusted.
April 4th, 20096:19 pm
I second that on Medlen, DOB. And I sure hope you’re right about Villanova.
April 4th, 20096:21 pm
Good to see that the two boot lickers, William & James were able to get their heads up out of Francoeur’s lap long enough to say nah, nah, nah, to all the “Frenchy haters.” I doubt many hate Francouer (although I do not particularly like him), they just hate his performance (primarily 2008, but his overall lack of progress as a player).
After seeing Frenchy in ST, I came away encouraged and hopeful that he may be able to make adjustments to save his career. I think that his success will be pivitol for the Braves to be successful.
Regardless, let Francouer prove himself, don’t be such sappy boot lickers.
So far one heck of a game between Huskies and Spartans
April 4th, 20096:22 pm
Derick Richards — You’re right. My ancient brain confused those 2 goofy old movies. It was the Ray Milland flick. Yup, Hanson seemed to be hittable today, didn’t he. I’d like to hear more from DOB and Carroll about that.
PWH, I will say this, though, that I tend to agree with mbatl on the actual content spewed by the talking heads. SABR is great stuff, and I like some of it myself; heck, I think some of the innovations actually have merit, LOL. But there isn’t nearly enough market penetration among casual fandom for that kind of commentary to play. You’d just get glazed looks and a hand searching for the remote. Me, I’d settle for an “analyst” who can speak coherently, if not insightfully, about the game, to the point that I can reasonably assume he’s watching the same one I am.
April 4th, 20096:25 pm
Bravesfan1124: I’m at the airport now, watching Mich St-UConn game. I would’ve been in Philly to watch the Villanova-UNC game, but Delta eliminated my 6:55 p.m. originally scheduled flight (and didn’t notify me), and I believe the 8:30 or 8:45 or whatever it was that they switched me to got delayed or something. The end result: I’m on a 9:45 p.m. flight. Great. Glad I got here at 5:30.
Instead of watching Villanova-UNC in Philly (where Villanova is, of course, located), I’m watching MSU-UConn here in the Crown Room with a bunch of MSU fans (they’re alums, couple of them wearing Spartans gear. I’m pulling for MSU just because they beat my guys, so I’d like to see them at least advance to the final so I feel a little better about losing in the Sweet 16).
April 4th, 20096:27 pm
Derick Richards — By the way, Ray Milland was one of England’s best soccer (or was it rugby) players before he became a top-flight actor.
Ever since Bobby started putting Schafer at the bottom of the order he has gone almost hitless. He needs to be leading off which would help him and the Braves as Escobar has shown nothing in the leadoff position.
It is quite clear that Boog cannot be trusted
Certainly within the realm. Are they still planning to close Guantanamo?
April 4th, 20096:28 pm
Glad I didn’t stay home and watch today. My kid got about 5 bags full of rock band t-shirts from the 4 thrift stores we went to. Some vintage, others were people I’ve never heard of lol. Oh and some dickies shirts and jackets. I never thought my 85 year old granddaddy and my 17 year old son would wear the same brand of clothes. Looks like I’ll be doing laundry all night.
April 4th, 20096:29 pm
Carrol, I gotcha! It’s just that when a fan hears an announcer for their team constantly praise the rival, I think it’s just right for someone to make it 100% clear that “Boog” does NOT represent our team. Just his opinions, but I say he should announce for another team. Maybe we’re all just spoiled by Skip and Pete all those years.
April 4th, 20096:30 pm
DOB, I’m pretty sure (well, positive, in fact) that the person at Delta responsible for your plight has a relative who owns a sometime-locked car lot.
Frank from KS
April 4th, 20096:37 pm
ESPN has the Braves on Sunday night and then a nice slew of games on Monday as well.
I’m SOOOO ready for some b-ball!!! :>)
April 4th, 20096:41 pm
I never said it’d be a good decision to use a pure sabermetrician as a color analyst for the Braves’ broadcast. I just said I’d prefer it. For me. Not anyone else. It’s an opinion, nothing more. And you’re right, nobody would watch the Braves if they had someone who was just rambling about things like VORP, WARP, Win Shares, and Runs Created the whole time. I’d prefer to have an announcer that would throw one of them out every now and then (Boog once threw out John Dewan’s +/-). And this is only MY opinion. Not what I would consider a good business move.
April 4th, 20096:42 pm
I must differ with KC & TNBrian about Boog Sciambi. Boog is by far the best announcer that covers the Braves in terms of knowledge of the game, professionalism, and breadth of player & team experience. He is able to provide a more accurate perspective because he can be objective.
These are some of the same skills and experiences that DOB brings to the table and one of the reasons we enjoy his work so much. DOB is not a Braves fan, he is a baseball fan and journalist. He may be a fan of individual players because he knows them or a fan of individual skills, but he does not actively root for the Braves. That is for us to do.
Appreciate the professionalism of a DOB or Boog, because we may not have them around forever.
I even prefer my fellow fans to be a bit more objective, just makes the game of baseball so enjoyable.
And by the way, I’d much rather listen to 2 Joe Simpsons calling a game than 1 Joe Morgan, like I get to look forward to tomorrow night.
April 4th, 20096:44 pm
Oh well you just cant trust the airlines anymore. I would also like to see MSU and Villanova in the final but UConn looks awfully tough.
DOB, thanks for what you do.
April 4th, 20096:45 pm
DOB – You might be getting your wish….looks like the #1 hoops recruit is looking at KU now.
April 4th, 20096:46 pm
PW-And let us not forget Fluctuating BABIP’s.
April 4th, 20096:49 pm
So, Randy, I assume you’ve never had an airline do something that annoyed you – or, if it did, you never complained?
I have an idea for a Joe Morgan game. We could each pick how many minutes into the broadcast it will take for immodest and insecure Joe to make reference to his Hall of Fame credentials.
My bet would be during Chipper Jones first at bat that Joe will mention that Chipper took another HOF step with the signing of the extension this week. He will do this just so he can make reference to his own HOF (and by inference, Godlike qualities) cred. I say 13 minute mark.
Randy: actually, this crown room has something called a coca-cola entertainment zone, which is like a home theatre. quite nice. great speakers and all that. just that i’d have preferred to know my flight was eliminated so I could have stayed home a few more hours, as I was home for less than 48 hrs since returning from Dark Star.
i shoulda just called to check on the flight, see if it was on time, etc. never do, though.
by the way, that’d be an odd sort of qualification to get you the weekend gig covering the braves, wouldn it? “Randy, we’d like you to cover the Braves this weekend. We have no idea if you can write, of have any reporting experience, or have ever worked on deadline, or have a criminal record, for that matter. But if you’re willing to wait in an airport for 12 hours, we figure you’re qualified.”
OK, back to this game. Turns out I’m probably better off watching this one than ‘Nova-UNC anyway. Helluva game, this one.
April 4th, 20096:51 pm
Carroll – as a Duke fan, I know it’s impossible to really root for UNC, but sometimes I feel the ACC loyalty tugging me in that direction. Then, once the game starts, the inbred hostility to the Heels comes through.
April 4th, 20096:52 pm
I will take under 5 minutes for Joe Morgan to allude to his HOF qualifications or World Series victories.
April 4th, 20096:53 pm
Wiki: Yes, indeed, Xavier Henry, the No. 1-rated prep player according to ESPNU and a couple other rating services, wants out of his Memphis commitment and to go to Kansas, according to dad Carl Henry (as I mentioned, Carl played at KU when I was a freshman; Xavier’s mom also played at KU).
Xavier’s bro C.J. Henry, a former Yankees minor league outfielder who’s gone back to basketball, also wants to transfer to KU from Memphis, where he redshirted last season as a walk-on (he’s a walk-on because Yankees agreed to pay his college tuition if he ever went back to school).
April 4th, 20096:55 pm
“wait at the airport 12 hours, we figure you’re qualified.” Good one, Dave
April 4th, 20096:59 pm
games getting a little chippy, this ain’t hockey, boys
April 4th, 20097:01 pm
Waiting at the airport for 12 hours and 4$ will get you a cup of coffee.
April 4th, 20097:03 pm
gotta go with Michigan State, same reasoning as DOB – They beat my boys, it would be nice to at least lose to the eventual champ…although Nova would be acceptable too (I also agree it would be nice to see someone other then Carolina win it)
April 4th, 20097:04 pm
I like Boog and Joe more and more after having that Extra innings package. Listen to a Cubs game with Bob Brenly in there. He states the obvious all the time, and never shuts up. The White Sox announcers are terrible, the Nationals team is bad. Those, off the top of my head, are some reasons to like Boog and Joe.
April 4th, 20097:07 pm
and now cbs is showing highlights of GA Tech beating USC – that was one of my earliest, and most painful, memories of college basketball- Thanks CBS!
April 4th, 20097:09 pm
northbeachScott, that’s fine… Boogy boy is a good announcer and professional, but dang, can he be any more open about his love for any team in the NL east BESIDES Atl.? He should look behind him when he’s announcing these games and notice the Braves logo to get a little reality check once and awhile.
For tommorrow night, Lowe looks good for 7 innings, 4 K’s, 2 BB, 4 hits, 1 run on 92 pitches… Braves win 4-2.
Gil In Mechanicsville
April 4th, 20097:10 pm
Some folks just like to complain… Just show the game and I will come up with a way to make it tolerable, there is always the mute button…. .
April 4th, 20097:11 pm
That prediction of mine is a little hard to take seriously when I type “tommorrow”… isn’t it?
April 4th, 20097:13 pm
My gal and I were at the game today, first with a nice little season ticket holders orientation, around noon. Jair Jurjjens answered a few questions for us after the Braves people were finished. If anyone doubts that he is a class act, please … GO BACK TO PHILADELPHIA IMMEDIATEDLY !!!
Now, a question: can ANYONE provide a link to the Braves final 25-man roster — if it is set, of course? I am especially interested in the pen. Did O’Flaherty make the team?
April 4th, 20097:15 pm
TnBrian, after that loooooong spring training, a win in the opener would feel good. If not, the blog vitriol will be flowing.
April 4th, 20097:17 pm
B.P.: Yes, he did….. http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=atl
Has the Gwinnett Braves Official Roster been announced yet???
April 4th, 20097:18 pm
Does this ease the pain (Self winning Coach of the Year), DOB?
April 4th, 20097:21 pm
By the way, I thought that KK was pitching hurt today. Either that, or the worst case of nerves in major league history.
April 4th, 20097:39 pm
I feared folks would distort the reality of pete and skip by overly romanticizing them to suit whatever the agenda of the moment is. Unfortunately, it didn’t take long to do so. They were the absolute best. There’ll never be another tandem like those two. However, let’s not insult their memory, reality, and intelligence by acting like they were two retarded goober homers who drooled tomahawks out of their mouths.
When he was alive, folks loved and hated Skip because he was an unrepentant ahole who never once hesitated to tell it like he saw it. Sadly, I don’t think there’ll be another skip. Like his daddy, he was one of a kind. When you get the likes of him, you’d be wise to cherish it.
When he was still broadcasting, no one was more objective, prepared, and professional than pete. That could be frustrating as hell sometimes too. You often wished the professor was more of the crazy, buffoonish, drunken homer uncle broadcaster, but that’s not who he was, and he wasn’t gonna sell out his broadcasting principles to entertain the masses.
To me, if anyone broadcasting today is gonna turn into what the professor was, it’s boog. Both are well prepared and well read. Both know their history, both love stats, both love objectivity. For generational reasons, although he had statistical research leaking out of his every pore, pete wasn’t as into all the sabermetric stats as boog. If he had been of boog’s generation, you best believe he would’ve been. And although he likely wasn’t a SABR member, it’s wrong to think pete wasn’t a SABR kind of guy. After all, SABR stands for Society for American Baseball Research. Who researched the history and present of the game more than the professor? Who sought the truth and objectivity more than pete?
Also, did they root for the Braves? Hell yeah they did. They’d also been doing Bravos games forever. It was therefore real for them to do so. But let’s also remember that although they rooted for the Braves, neither one ever blindly pimped themselves out to be yes men who rubber stamped their approval of everything the Braves did. That’s what made them the best.
Besides, do you really want boog or powell or chip to come in here and act like they’ve been a member of your family and the Braves family for an entire generation? That wouldn’t be real, and if they tried to do so, it would seem phony …. or Rathburnish. If you want them to become homers who really root for your team, give ‘em enough time to become a friend of ours, rather than just a friend of mine. They’ve got the talent, just give ‘em time to become the soundtrack of your Southern summers.
April 4th, 20097:44 pm
Pete Van Wieren is my favorite announcer of all time.
April 4th, 20097:46 pm
April 4th, 20097:48 pm
Well said, Braveheart!
April 4th, 20097:50 pm
KC I will not be able to make the opening night party, but will be there in spirit. Perhaps the Joe Morgan HOF Game concept (see my 6:40pm) might be fun as an icebreaker and/or have everyone throw in a $buc with the pot to the winner. Let us know how it goes
April 4th, 20097:51 pm
What a terrific game. Smyrna Jim, well deserved for Bill Self. But no, doesn’t have much to do with the disappointment you feel when your team’s eliminated (even if KU got as far as I thought they had any chance to get in what was supposed to be a rebuilding, or reloading year).
But Michigan State still alive and playing this well, now, that helps ease the sting a little.
April 4th, 20097:55 pm
Does anybody know what time the pre-game festivities will begin on Friday?
April 4th, 20098:01 pm
Braveheart, weighing with with a vintage Braveheart post. Where you been, man?
April 4th, 20098:04 pm
Adirondack Dave, as per Ray Milland, I didn’t know much about him, but I will say that what you say about his athletic background would make sense; he looked like an athlete on the mound in that movie, unlike some of the sports movies of the day when some of the actors stretched the limits of imagination.
April 4th, 20098:05 pm
24 hours, baby!!!
April 4th, 20098:07 pm
DOB – as I alluded to in my comment to Carroll earlier, the anti-Heel outlook combines with the fact that Villanova beat Duke to give me incentive in the next game. (Also, ‘Nova was my #2 college choice way back when, and my William and Mary background has not given much to root for nationally in basketball since we beat David Robinson in ‘83, and Phil Ford/Walter Davis in ‘77).
April 4th, 20098:08 pm
I know I am dating myself, but did any of you see a 1957 movie named Fear Strikes Out, with Tony (Psycho) Perkins as Jim Piersall? I would say he threw like a girl, but that would insult the female ballplayers on this blog.
April 4th, 20098:10 pm
After Skip and Pete, no one will fill the bill for quite a while. Just be glad you don’t have to listen to whoever those Dudes are that do the Brewers’ games on Extra Innings. They are really poor.
April 4th, 20098:11 pm
DOB, as a writer, you don’t fly on the team charter
2nd – any concern over Kawakami’s shoulder
April 4th, 20098:12 pm
Perkins’ performance there is often referenced when complimenting another actor who looks like he knows what he is doing in a sports’ flick. I’ve seen bits and pieces, but it was too bad to stick with it.
I can tell you the Braves view Medlen as a starter for the long term. DOB
Wow, really? That’s pretty cool to hear. He was so successful starting last year and he’s such a good hitter that I wondered if they would try to keep him there. What are they going to do when Charlie Morton gets off the DL, do you know?
April 4th, 20098:13 pm
Horrible 3 point shot by MSU, but UConn can’t shoot an unblocked shot.
And to think, I had Boston College beating Michigan State in the second round. They looked so bad in the Big Ten Tournament
April 4th, 20098:17 pm
Roman Gal – Morton to Gwinnett.
April 4th, 20098:20 pm
Great post Braveheart
I’ve never felt that Boog was anti-Braves. I think he’s objective and he’s sees all side of an argument before he forms an opinion. He does remind me a lot of Pete, and I love that about him.
April 4th, 20098:21 pm
Smyrna Jim, I meant what’s gonna happen with Medlen when Morton comes off the DL.
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