1:30 pm March 31, 2009, by David O'Brien
March 31st, 20092:36 pm
Supes, that Chipper jersey will be good for the rest of your life..Hall of famer and number will be retired in Atlanta!
N Nine (eta5)
March 31st, 20092:37 pm
Not if we have another young catcher ready. Or else he’ll get the Javy/Estrada treatment.Spotts
I hope not Spotts. I think the situation’s different, but then again who knows what will happen in four years….
No reason why we shoulda kept Estrada. He never fully recovered to his oldself and MAC was knocking.
Javy had a career contract year, but the age and money didn’t match up. I think we knew he was on the decline.. Mac should still be in the elite status and much better than the two. Both Javy/Estrada were washed up and not needed….
When the time arrives, Chipper’s contract is up, so I’d guess we’ll have cash to lock up Mac. I truly believe McCann will still improve and will be treated different. Unless we find another McCann in our system. I’m banking on McCann being an all-time Brave and shattering all the catchers stats
Notorious Number 10
March 31st, 20092:38 pm
Congrats to Chipper. This will only help my Chipper collection go up in value (I’ll never sell anyway). He deserves it for being the definition of a team player, not to mention one of the greatest hitters of all time. Don’t worry about Anders…if the Met’s had just signed a notorious Braves killer, I wouldn’t like it either. HA
March 31st, 20092:39 pm
Plus our oldest pitcher is 27. – Anders
Pedro Feliciano is 32. JJ Putz is 32. Tim Redding is 31. Johan Santana is 30. Brian Stokes is 29. Sean Green is 29.
March 31st, 20092:40 pm
Kinda figured you meant after D Lowe but you never know:)
as long as we’ve got the important things down…
There’s something to be said about an organization taking care of one of it’s own – somebody who you drafted, cultivated, and who’se had great years playing for you and is wonderful in the clubhouse. If you’re going to “retain/reward” anybody wouldn’t you want to retain a guy like Chipper?
That was my whole problem with the Smoltz thing – I thought he deserved the same consideration.
As Heyward, Freeman, et al come up to the Braves don’t you think they ‘ll look at how the Braves treated Jones and think “that’s what I’d like”? If they emulate Chipper they themselves and the Braves win. The same goes for McCann and the comeback player of the year – Francouer.
Way to go Braves organization! Thank you for making Chipper a Brave all the way.
March 31st, 20092:44 pm
That bang heard from NY was Mets #1 fan blowing the back of his skull off thinking about the damage Chipper will do to the Mets over the next 4 seasons and how much confidence and skill he will be able to pass on the Heyward, Freeman & Schafer to cut the hearts out of those scumbag Mutts.
March 31st, 20092:45 pm
my dream come true. Chipper a Brave forever!
March 31st, 20092:48 pm
Tony D – Your 2:37 is not needed on this blog. No reason for a total lack of class on your part.
March 31st, 20092:49 pm
Any news on Bobby Cox signing an extension? Now that Chipper is signed, Cox is the next person that I am worried about signing.
March 31st, 20092:50 pm
Who gives a shucks, its gone…(done)!
Rob from SC
March 31st, 20092:51 pm
The San Francisco Chronicle reports that Joey Devine is scheduled to have his sore elbow examined next week by Dr. James Andrews.
The newspaper notes that Devine is expected to miss at least the first few weeks of the season, but obviously a trip to see Dr. Andrews is cause for much greater concern. Brad Ziegler is now the favorite for early season saves in Oakland, with Santiago Casilla likely backing him up as a ninth-inning alternative.
Wayne in Utah
March 31st, 20092:52 pm
So long as you don’t go out and get one of those #16 haircuts, I think you will be dressed quite appropriately for opening day.
BTW, on my 50th birthday a few years back (when the Braves were on TBS), my son and I celebrated my big birthday watching the Braves on TV, and eating bologna, cheese and tomato sandwiches. A little mayo. And we dipped them in creamy tomato soup. It was the perfect day!
March 31st, 20092:54 pm
Tony D. @ 2:37 does it make you feel big making sexual inuendos to a teenager. While she left herself open to that type of joke, only you were sleazy enough to say it. Really creepy and disgusting of you. Were you not recently featured on “To Catch a Predator?”
i cant take it anymore
keep that kind of post on the mets blog, loser.
March 31st, 20092:55 pm
Wayne, that sounds pretty gross and I love bologna
March 31st, 20092:56 pm
Just out of curiousity..anyone else on here collect baseball cards?
18 Wheels of Love
Skipped Chic Fil A and went to the local soul food joint. Baked chicken, lima beans, collards, fish head soup and banana pudding. Absolutely fantastic.
March 31st, 20092:58 pm
How does Chipper signing a three-year contract extension increase the value of Chipper Jones merchandise? Does anyone really put more worth on a bat, a ball, an autograph, or a baseball card because a guy might stay with one team for his whole career?
Customer: “Hey. How much do you want for that autographed ball?”
Dealer: “Well, I’ve got this Chipper Jones-signed ball. I’m charging $50 for it.”
Customer: “Well, he did sign a contract extension the other day. I’ll pay $5000 for it.”
Dealer: “You’re a great Braves fan and a true patriot, sir.”
Baseball cards. They died in 1989 when they started mass producing them and printing them on photo quality paper. Now, my 1964 Topps scuffed up Pete Rose, that’s a baseball card!
Maybe now You Know Who can make an appearance?
March 31st, 20092:59 pm
Even if Chipper does stay on the DL towards the end of this contract it is the right move. Chipper has taken less money on different occasions so the front office could make the team better, and this contract is his reward for that and other things like recruiting free agents. Ticket and merchandise sales could easily make up for money lost on an injured Chipper, and with the youth we have taking over we wont need a large payroll to field a good team. Chippers influence on this young group can’t be measured in dollars, but I can say with out doubt Its worth the money in this contract. Oh, and lets not forget the guy won the batting title last year. Look at Shaq this year; I thought that guy was through. He stayed injured with the Heat the past few years and now it seems like he has new life, so lets not assume Chipper will be mediocre over the next few years.
March 31st, 20093:00 pm
MMM Which one would be better?
Fish head soup or bologna with extra mayo?
aha…sorry McFann. McCann’s my favorite player too and I’d hate to see him go. But I’d also hate to see a huge salary for a catcher cripple or at least hurt the team.
But Brian seems like a noble guy. I think if he asks for a reasonable salary and he’s still able to perform, he’ll stay with the Braves and not command the huge money he’ll get on the market (if teams are overpaying for Adam Eaton, Carlos Silva, et al, you can imagine what Brian will get).
But all this won’t happen for 4 more years (if it happens at all) so what are we worrying for??
March 31st, 20093:01 pm
18 Wheels, I posted this in the last blog, but at the very end, so you probably didn’t see it…
18 Wheels: “it all boils down to 12m for a guy coming off TJ. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s a risk. A big risk.”
Respectfully, that is completely inaccurate. It is not a big risk at all. It’s a small one. The success rate of “Tommy John” surgery is now close to 90% (”success” defined as a full comeback with return of all velocity and no long-term complications of impairments)
Also, while most pitchers are able to return after 12 months, it takes a 18 months (sometimes as long as 24 months) to FULLY and completely recover from “Tommy John” surgery. On opening day of next season, it will have been 20 months since Hudson’s surgery. So he should be 100% recovered (or damned close to it) by the start of next season.
Also, you talk like we’ll be getting Hudson back in 2010 fresh off his rehab, without knowing what we’ll get. It’s highly unlikely that will be the case. Hudson will most likely return in late August or early September. So the Braves figure to get a look at him in action before the off-season.
Anyway, bottom line is… if you keep Hudson, you have a 90% chance of adding another ace to the staff next year. Actually, if the Braves get a look at him late this year and he looks good, the odds are probably better than 90%.
So there’s a 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 chance that he won’t fully recover next year… big deal. These days, it seems you have a 1 in 10 or 1in 20 chance of a pitcher needing TJ surgery for the first time at any give point.
We’ve got a chance to add an ace to the staff for 12 million dollars, and you want to let him walk????
Great dialogue by me. The second sentence reads like it was written by someone who didn’t realize that he had already mentioned the autographed ball in the first. I try to go all out on every post.
18 Wheels, what soul food spot was that? Sounds great.
I was so happy to hear this news about Chipper! I remember watching his rookie season in 3rd grade and deciding he would be my favorite player. I bought an autograph of his at a local card show that summer and have watched and loved him as a Brave ever since. So glad that he will be a Brave forever and I get to have a story book ending to my childhood baseball hero!
March 31st, 20093:02 pm
NN10, I have all my baseball cards from the 1960’s and some from the 1950’s and I get a complete set from my in-laws for Christmas every year. I love them and I am 49. They are how I learned statistics and why I loved math growing up.
Chop Chop…no of course nothing that drastic, but it definately can’t hurt its value. Think Mickey Mantle memorbilia amongst Yankee fans compared to Roger Clemens memorbilia.
Josh (2:45) – I think you need to set your goals a little higher, man
March 31st, 20093:03 pm
Notorious Number 10, I used to, but not in about 17 years. As 18 Wheels said, the industry self-destructed due to mass over-production and mismanagement. Sad. I really enjoyed it for a time.
March 31st, 20093:06 pm
The “Tony D” response is allowed and encouraged on here, folks.
About 2 weeks ago we had a blogger completely berating another, calling him disparaging names, and your blogmaster not only allowed it but praised the guy making the insults.
So….you have to put up with that sort of thing on here.
I wonder how many of those years Chipper will be healthy and actually play. Typical Braves front office work.
Great….we have an N10 now?
March 31st, 20093:08 pm
northbeachScott: I became a Math teacher because of baseball cards.
March 31st, 20093:09 pm
U Know Who… Congrats on the great contract and we’re all looking forward another great year. Praying that this year will be a healthy one for you.
McCann’s a decent hitter, but look at them sideburns! He looks like a girl. Now, Johnny Unitas, there’s a haircut you could set your watch to. By the way, I invented kissing. It was during World War I and they were looking for a new way to spread germs.
I think its great..im sorry some fans are unhappy about this but with what other players aer being paid this was a pretty cheap price for a guy who it .366 last season.Great for Chipper, and the Braves.I hope he makes it to 500 homers and I bet each year he batts .300 or better.It would be nice to see him get in 120 games or more each season.
The ghost of Will Ohman
March 31st, 20093:10 pm
BravesFan… I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it will be a girl. Either way, Citi Jones has a nice ring to it, right Anders?
KC – If the overall success rate for Tommy John surgery is 90%, I would have to think Dr. Andrews is a leader in the field, thus having a higher rate.
I’d keep Hudson anyway, but with Dr. Andrews, it’s almost automatic.
[Baseball cards] are how I learned statistics and why I loved math growing up.
Egg-zackly. An unintended consequence deftly ignored by some who deride sports as “only a game”.
March 31st, 20093:11 pm
With Darrow, the Braves have 3 prominent side-arming righties in the organization: Moylan, Kimbrel, and Darrow. Presumably they will not all pitch in the same bullpen some day.
I have some baseball cards. I basically collected them for one year: 1990. After that, I didn’t really buy many. I was 10. I figure that I’ll just hold on to those cards until I’m 80. By then, maybe enough cards will have been destroyed by the nuclear winter to make mine worth something.
While Chipper is standing on the side, he is listening to MCCann and will speak to him later if needed. That is what great mentors will do.
I like bologna and will purchase a pack, make one sandwich and throw out. Not the money that counts but the calories not good. It’s like
going out to dinner and not finishing your plate, no big deal.
March 31st, 20093:12 pm
Way to go Hoss! Good to see some of you guys at Dark Star last week. I did the meet and greet on Friday. Greg Norton is a hoot so is McDowell. I still think we need another stick.
Chipper just had his press conference. Said he and his wife discussed a lot of scenarios during the offseason, including possibly retiring after this coming season, though he said that discussion never got to the serious stage. But he did consider options including going elsewhere, or possibly being traded at the deadline, etc.
When the Braves made their offer, Chipper and his agent, B.B. Abbott, were very pleased. Frank Wren and John Schuerholz, he said, reallly looked at what other free agents would be asking for next winter, guys who could hit .300-.350 with 20-30 homers, etc, and considered what Chipper meant to the organization, what he’s sacrificed in the past, financially (left about $14 mill on table in that last renegotiation), and made him an offer that Abbott said was a “fair-market offer” and not a hometown discout type of deal.
March 31st, 20093:14 pm
Am I excited about having to deal with Chumper for the next 3-4 years? Of course not, but my boys have the better all around team for the next 3-4 years so it doesn’t matter. How was Jurjins the other day against the Stankees? Like I said, he’s not good enough to wash Pelfrey or Perez’s jock straps. Get ready for the famous sophmore slump.
DOB – if you have the ability to do so please remove the comment by Tony D at 2:37 p.m.
March 31st, 20093:17 pm
Once I was a millionaire, but my mother threw away all my old baseball cards.
A well deserved contract for Chipper. It’s a lot of money but probably still under market value. I don’t think it is any doubt that he has played over the years for less than he could have received had he gone the free agent route. He should be rewarded for all he has meant to the Braves.
March 31st, 20093:19 pm
#1MetFan: How are the Mets better for the next 3-4 years????
And you’re badmouthing a start by one of our starters in a spring training game. You have to be kidding me.
March 31st, 20093:20 pm
That’s the way I see it. No hometown discount. He’s turning 38 next year. Most guys don’t get $14 million a year at that age. I hope the deal works out well for everyone involved.
March 31st, 20093:21 pm
One more thing- Chumper is overrated by you guys! You all act like he is the best 3rd baseman in baseball when my boy Wright is head and shoulders above him as far as the better all around player. Delgado will put up astonishing numbers once again, while Beltran,Reyes, and Church will do their usual excellent work at the plate. You all should be worried when the over the hill gang shows up to Citi Field. LETS GO METS!!!!
March 31st, 20093:22 pm
#1MetFan, if there was such a thing as the “sophomore” slump, then Pelfrey sure didn’t get much of it last year. If he didn’t you might expect the same from him this year as you’re going to see with Jair.
#1MetFan, you never responded to me the other day….
Are you willing to back up any of your gum flapping? If you really believe half the stuff you say, let’s put a little money on it! Seriously. =)
This is great news about Chipper. He is not only a great ball player but he is willing to do anything to help the team. This contract is well deserved. This is the first time I can smile a lot since Smoltz left.
March 31st, 20093:23 pm
HEY, Anders & #1MetFan, you’re full of balogna.
March 31st, 20093:24 pm
Why do people call baloney balogna anyway?
I quit collecting actively in 1990. I am guessing my old Roger Clemens Topps Rookie card has dropped a bit in value recently. I have an Ernie Banks Topps 1960 card, but it is only in good condition. It is probably my best old card. Also a Joe Torre from 1963, and Boog Powell Rookie card from 1962.
Now you guys got me looking over all the old stuff again.
Jurgins was all over the place and couldn’t get his head in the game from what I saw. Pelfrey seems to be turing his luck around as of late even though he’s had a not so stellar spring. He’s also been given bad run support throughout the spring as far as I can gather.
I didn’t say Chipper would test the market.I said I’d be stunned if he signed for three years at $30 mil like DOB was suggesting. Apparently he didn’t. I actually think he is worth every penny he’s gonna get based on what he’s done for the Braves(probably more to the Braves). That said, my point weeks ago was and still is that signing Lowe at his age for 4 years at $60 mil was a risk considering what I thought (and apparently was right) that Chipper would get. DOB said my number was high-considerably.
Hey, Braves did what they had to do in both cases but that doesn’t lessen the risk. Plus now you have to wonder if they’ll excercise the option on Hudson next year at $12 mil.
Anyway, the teams are almost complete and I look forward to getting this season started. Should be fun.
March 31st, 20093:25 pm
Selected Met starters ERA this spring: Maine 8.00; Pelfrey 5.50; Ollie 4.11.
None of the Braves top 7 starters (JJ, Lowe, KK, Vazquez, Glavine, Hanson, Reyes) has an ERA of over 3.27.
Not sayin’ spring training stats mean a whole lot, #1Metsfan, but you brought it up.
March 31st, 20093:26 pm
“he’s not good enough to wash Pelfrey or Perez’s jock straps”
Boy, Mets fans sure don’t have a lot to look forward to, do they? Pelfrey & Perez, good grief.
Now who’s overvaluing their team?
“Over the hill?” The average age of our starting fielders is 27.5- not exactly ready for the nursing home
March 31st, 20093:27 pm
As far as Freel is concerned I do not see him being any help to us what so ever unless Schafer fails. For all you people worrying about Francour failing don’t because I think Heyward will be ready about this time next year. Also if and when Hanson and Reyes are ready there will always be a spot for them if they live up to what is expected of them. There will always be pitchers with sore arms and having opts thus making openings for them.
This year my main worry is will we hit enough to allow us post season play. I’m still not convinced if Gonzales will be the closer we want,hope so.
Anybody remember Gregg Jeffries from the late 80’s. I got 6 of his Topps Rookie cards….speculating, and he bombed.
Come on guy, I’m no betting man. I just believe that my boys are head and shoulders above the over the hill gang. I might talk with a heavy New York accent, but that doesn’t mean I’m a betting man.
#1MetFan, yeah Jurrjens had a bad outing his last time out. Had a hard time connect with the AAA catcher he was throwing to. He was having to shake every call off multiple times, and hitters were picking up on what he was about to throw. That all seemed to throw him off his game.
Anyway, it was his only bad one of the spring. How does that compare to Pelfrey’s spring? And I assume you saw Jurrjens duel Santana a week or two back?
March 31st, 20093:28 pm
“Pelfrey seems to be turing his luck around as of late even though he’s had a not so stellar spring. He’s also been given bad run support throughout the spring as far as I can gather.”
Look closer. He sucks.
March 31st, 20093:29 pm
“Let’s sacrifice him to our god! Come on, we did it all the time in the thirties.”
How come they can sign Chipper but not Smoltz, Chipper has alot of seniority but not compared to Smoltz.
I think Wren just new he had to sign Chipper after the damage he took with the Smoltz signing.
#1MetFan, come one now #1… I’m no high roller. I’m not talking about betting big money. Doesn’t have to be any money at all. If you live in ATL, you could simply show up at a game in a Braves jersey when your Mets lose the bet for you.
I’m just a believer that anyone who crows that loudly should be willing to back it up!
March 31st, 20093:30 pm
An Atlanta Icon … the Final Frontier. These are the chronicles of Chipper. His 20 year mission: to hit and field exclusively for the Braves, to seek out and teach the young ones, to boldly go where no Smoltz has gone before.
March 31st, 20093:31 pm
As far as Freel is concerned…
Please tell me someone did not bring up Ryan Freel again!
#1 Met fan – You can’t knock Juurgens. I think we need to see how the league adjusts to his stuff for sure. But, I will say that he is really tough for batters to square up on. His stuff has sneaky late movement. Sawed of bats and weak grounders the other way area sure sign of this. He appears to get both. There’s no guarantees with any second year guy but he shows signs of being a real top flight pitcher. We’ll see.
Anders is still coughing up sour grapes over the Mutts losing out on Lowe. At least they retained a consistent winner like Oliver Perez. He should get at least 8 wins for them.
The Ryan Freel reference is a running joke with some of the old regulars here. Not meant to be a serious discussion.
March 31st, 20093:32 pm
Big Upps Chipper! Whether you like him or not the dude is a STUD! He got beat out on the last day of the “07 season or he would have won the batting title the last 2 years! Not bad for an “old man” huh. When its all said & done he will stand next to Hank Aaron as the two greatest Braves ever no doubt. Hopefully he will tattoo Smoltzie when he shows up in June! GO BRAVOS
Anyone else noticed the mets fans love those jock-strap analogies?
All this talk of McCann and his future with the Braves beyond his current contract… Where does Clint Sammons fit in to all of this?
I like you guy! You seem like troopa, you know? Why would a smart guy like you be a Braves fan in the first place? I will never forget me and my boys at Shea a couple of years and booing the ever living crap out of Chumper. Maybe I can tell you dat story another time since you seem to be the only one with brains around here.
What’s an “offence”? Is that similar to a picket fence?
March 31st, 20093:33 pm
Wayne in Utah-
That is a comfort- didn’t see the original post, just Bobbymahlon’s response and started to get twitchy!
How come they can sign Chipper but not Smoltz
Other than Chipper will actually be ready to play Opening Day? Is several years younger? Hasn’t had five surgeries?
I can’t figure it out, either.
What is my Griffey Jr Donruss 1989 worth?
Matty, just a little place here on the SC Coast called Gullah Cuisine. Big time soul food done right.
March 31st, 20093:34 pm
Hey #1 Mutts fan- do you remember what you were doing the exact day that your Mutts wet the bed and missed the playoffs two years ago?
What about last year, when they did the same thing again?
Who are you, Motha Teresa? Get outa here! Come on fella, Jurjins is overrated by these jerk offs and you know it.
March 31st, 20093:35 pm
Let’s just hope Chipper’s toes don’t start acting up again. As we all know, toes are not to be trifled with.
Although a manly man like Freel would always be a welcome addition on any team I would pull for! (Freel is the type of player Prado wishes he will become someday)
March 31st, 20093:36 pm
Pelfrey and Perez had a couple of steller outings back to back last week. What was that…. 6 ERs in less than 5 IP & 4 IP respectively? I know #1, it’s just spring training, right? At least Pelfrey’s outing was against the powerhouse Astros.
Chippers Dippers(big skoal Can heads)
Garret’s Parrots-little Jimmy Buffet
Kotch’s Crotches–jock strap on heads
Hanson’s Mansons-everyone put a tomahawk in the shape of a swastica on
Boone’s Farms …dress as Logans favorite animals
#1MetFan, you’re last post was the perfect example of why Brave’s fans laugh when people try to insult us as “rednecks” or down home country boys.
You can’t even spell, be grammatically correct, or even put together a sentence with any sort of meaning.
And that’s why I’ve never understood the vitriol by many on here towards Anders.
Well said, Anders.
March 31st, 20093:37 pm
Keen eye, my friend, LOL. Just remember that investigations as to the motive thereof are best left unstarted.
March 31st, 20093:38 pm
I can see Chipper as the Brave’s manager in 5 years.
The Braves front office will never learn that when a player starts to decline you don’t keep throwing more money at that player. If the Braves get 110-120 games out of Chipper in each of the next 3-4 four seasons they will be very fortunate. I guess $13 million per year doesn’t buy what it use too. In the meantime, when Chipper goes on the 60 day DL hopefully the Braves will have a quality player waiting in the minors whose progress has been blocked by another over the hill veteran that has hung on to long.
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